Official 2020 University of Texas Coaching Search

[Vito Corleone]

Lets kick this off with a list of potential candidates.

Dabo Sweeney
kirby Smart
James Franklin
Matt Campbell
Matt Rhule
Mike Gundy
Mario Cristobal
Kyle Whittingham

NFL Candidates
John Harbaugh
Mike Tomlin
Sean Payton
Sean McVey
Frank Reich
Ron Rivera
Jon Gruden


If I had to pick I'm going all in on Dabo and force him to tell me no. After him I'm doing the same for John Harbaugh. After that it gets a little fuzzy.

[playblair]

this hire will either make or break cdc.........

[FkLA]

*University of Texas at Austin

[Vito Corleone]

There is only one University of Texas. All others need to be designated by the city. The University.

[FkLA]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/University_of_Texas_at_Austin_seal.svg

[Blake]

There is only one University of Texas. All others need to be designated by the city. The University.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/University_of_Texas_at_Austin_seal.svg

:lmao

[Vito Corleone]

Don't care what the Crest says, it's still The University of Texas, stop right there and everyone not being purposefully obtuse knows what you are talking about.

The Seal says all that needs to be said.

https://www.utsystem.edu/sites/default/files/offices/board-of-regents/images/bigseal.gif

[FkLA]

https://www.utsystem.edu/sites/default/files/images/gallery/branding/ut-system-branding-seal-color-styles.png

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

mah flagship breh :cry

[Neo.]

https://www.utsystem.edu/sites/default/files/images/gallery/branding/ut-system-branding-seal-color-styles.png

LMAO utsa
LMAO thinking they are relevant
LMAO butthurt

[bluebellmaniac]

Don't care what the Crest says, it's still The University of Texas, stop right there and everyone not being purposefully obtuse knows what you are talking about.

The Seal says all that needs to be said.

https://www.utsystem.edu/sites/default/files/offices/board-of-regents/images/bigseal.gif

I went to UTSA and Vito is correct.

That's how it has always been, how it will always be.

[Pelicans78]

Lets kick this off with a list of potential candidates.

Dabo Sweeney
kirby Smart
James Franklin
Matt Campbell
Matt Rhule
Mike Gundy
Mario Cristobal
Kyle Whittingham

NFL Candidates
John Harbaugh
Mike Tomlin
Sean Payton
Sean McVey
Frank Reich
Ron Rivera
Jon Gruden


If I had to pick I'm going all in on Dabo and force him to tell me no. After him I'm doing the same for John Harbaugh. After that it gets a little fuzzy.

This thread sums the hubris Texas fans have about their program. And there’s nothing Texas could offer Dabo to leave except more presssure and criticism from the fans, alumni, and boosters. Good coaches go to Texas to die.

[Vito Corleone]

This thread sums the hubris Texas fans have about their program. And there’s nothing Texas could offer Dabo to leave except more presssure and criticism from the fans, alumni, and boosters. Good coaches go to Texas to die.

I can think of a 100 million reasons Dabo would leave Clemson for Texas. Only Texas is rich enough to offer him a 10 million dollar contract and pay his assistants like an NFL franchise. When you are a winning coach at Texas and you want something, you pick up a phone call one of our many billionaire alumni and tell them what you want, and you get it. That is the difference between Texas and every other school.

[Blake]

I can think of a 100 million reasons Dabo would leave Clemson for Texas. Only Texas is rich enough to offer him a 10 million dollar contract and pay his assistants like an NFL franchise. When you are a winning coach at Texas and you want something, you pick up a phone call one of our many billionaire alumni and tell them what you want, and you get it. That is the difference between Texas and every other school.

And yet all that money couldn't land a Saban.

[Vito Corleone]

And yet all that money couldn't land a Saban.


<Mack Brown> There were other reasons we didn't get Saban</Mack Brown>

[Kermit]

I can think of a 100 million reasons Dabo would leave Clemson for Texas. Only Texas is rich enough to offer him a 10 million dollar contract and pay his assistants like an NFL franchise. When you are a winning coach at Texas and you want something, you pick up a phone call one of our many billionaire alumni and tell them what you want, and you get it. That is the difference between Texas and every other school.

This will never happen. Texas has never money whipped any coach. Also, why the fuck would Dabo want to leave a football powerhouse to come to Texas?

[Vito Corleone]

This will never happen. Texas has never money whipped any coach. Also, why the fuck would Dabo want to leave a football powerhouse to come to Texas?

Never say never, he will leave because of the payday.

[Kermit]

No he won’t. And neither will any other coach of a competent program, because they can all match. Clemson can and will match and Texas isn’t paying a coach $20 million a year.

[Vito Corleone]

Do you know how many programs actually are making money? Clemson isn't one of them, they can't match what Texas can offer. In my estimate, Texas could probably go 12 million a year without blinking an eye, and then they can probably go another 8 million for his assistants. So all in, yes, Texas can offer 20 million to a coach like Dabo Sweeney if he is willing to come. There is nothing that Clemson can offer that can beat what Texas can offer.

[Kermit]

See, this delusion that we can throw money at any problem is exactly why we’re laughed at. Texas has to answer to many politicians, people in power, and the court of public interest. There is no way that they will ever spend that ungodly amount of money on a football coach. Clemson, whether or not their accounting shows a profit, will undoubtedly match anything thrown at Dabo. AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD DABO WANT TO COME TO A PROGRAM THAT IS A FLAMING BAG OF DOGSHIT WHEN HE HAS BUILT ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY FROM NOTHING?

[Vito Corleone]

See, this delusion that we can throw money at any problem is exactly why we’re laughed at. Texas has to answer to many politicians, people in power, and the court of public interest. There is no way that they will ever spend that ungodly amount of money on a football coach. Clemson, whether or not their accounting shows a profit, will undoubtedly match anything thrown at Dabo. AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD DABO WANT TO COME TO A PROGRAM THAT IS A FLAMING BAG OF DOGSHIT WHEN HE HAS BUILT ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY FROM NOTHING?

Power, Prestige, Challenge, Money, Impact, there are many reasons to take on the challenge of coming to Austin. If it happens, it won't be with money from the athletic department, it will be with money from the alumni. Our alumni are getting desperate to get a winner. Just like after we fired Fred Akers we followed up with two stinkers for coaches, if we fire Herman we are going to get serious about our next hire and getting another flavor of the month coach isn't going to cut it. Texas will go after a proven winner on the P5 level.

Clemson wanting to match the money Texas can throw at him and having the ability to do so are two very different things. Clemson is not a big University, it doesn't have near the resources that Texas has. It doesn't have the alumni base that Texas has. I lived in Clemson SC, I know it's a great school with very smart people running it, but they aren't Bama, or LSU, I would compare the University to Tulane more than a typical southern school. They would have a much harder time justifying the contract like that then Texas would.

[Blake]

Dabo is the highest paid coach in the country.

And Clemson is doing fine financially.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/09/12/college-football-most-valuable-clemson-texas-am/

Lol

[Vito Corleone]

Dabo is the highest paid coach in the country.

And Clemson is doing fine financially.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/09/12/college-football-most-valuable-clemson-texas-am/

Lol

Clemson is #25 on that list, but to be fair, at least now they are showing a profit, it wasn't too long ago they were in the red and relied on donors and the University to stay in the black. Also maybe I should remind you what Texas profits would look like if they had won 2 of the last 4 championships and played in 3 of the last 4.

[Kermit]

Clemson is #25 on that list, but to be fair, at least now they are showing a profit, it wasn't too long ago they were in the red and relied on donors and the University to stay in the black. Also maybe I should remind you what Texas profits would look like if they had won 2 of the last 4 championships and played in 3 of the last 4.

Vito, stahp. He’s not coming, ever. Unless he’s sharing the bed with Mom.

[Blake]

Clemson is #25 on that list, but to be fair, at least now they are showing a profit, it wasn't too long ago they were in the red and relied on donors and the University to stay in the black. Also maybe I should remind you what Texas profits would look like if they had won 2 of the last 4 championships and played in 3 of the last 4.

But Dabo is the highest paid coach in the country.

[DesignatedT]

Clemson wont lose Dabo to money. They might lose him to Alabama though, eventually. That's the only scenario in which I see him even entertaining the thought of leaving.

[DesignatedT]

Dabo Swinney — $9,315,600
Nick Saban — $8,857,000
Jim Harbaugh — $7,504,000
Jimbo Fisher — $7,500,000
Kirby Smart — $6,871,600
Gus Malzahn — $6,827,589
Tom Herman — $6,750,000

[Kermit]

Dabo Swinney — $9,315,600
Nick Saban — $8,857,000
Jim Harbaugh — $7,504,000
Jimbo Fisher — $7,500,000
Kirby Smart — $6,871,600
Gus Malzahn — $6,827,589
Tom Herman — $6,750,000

Tom Herman is a fucking thief.

[playblair]

And yet all that money couldn't land a Saban.
saban wanted to be at texas..........everything was signed & delivered until mack brown derailed it.............the boosters & regents aproved of the saban deal but mack made deloss dodds veto it...............saban was telling everyone he was gone.............

[Blake]

saban wanted to be at texas..........everything was signed & delivered until mack brown derailed it.............the boosters & regents aproved of the saban deal but mack made deloss dodds veto it...............saban was telling everyone he was gone.............

All that money..... No Saban

[Kermit]

All that money..... No Saban

But it was Mack Brown, don’t you see? It was Mack Brown all along...

This fairytale never gets old. Jimmy Sexton is a goddamn genius.

[Vito Corleone]

But it was Mack Brown, don’t you see? It was Mack Brown all along...

This fairytale never gets old. Jimmy Sexton is a goddamn genius.

I know some people I trust that not only did he block Saban, he called all his committed recruits and told them to go elsewhere. Mack handled the termination like a little bitch. I have no respect for him.

[Blake]

I know some people I trust that not only did he block Saban, he called all his committed recruits and told them to go elsewhere. Mack handled the termination like a little bitch. I have no respect for him.

All that money..... Still no Saban

[Vito Corleone]

All that money..... Still no Saban

A house divided cannot stand.

[Blake]

A house divided cannot stand.

But it's built on all that money tho.

[Vito Corleone]

But it's built on all that money tho.

I seem to remember a lot of people on various horn sites expressing their feelings that a certain big money donor should STFU about the choices Texas made in head coaches. And to think, Red was right about Charlie Strong. It was the BMDs that set us up to get Saban and Mack killed it, then he shit on his last recruiting class. Mack Brown was a POS for screwing over this program and leaving it worse than he found it. Then Texas screws themselves by hiring the worst AD in the history of college sports. who in turn makes a coaching hire for all the wrong reasons. Everything ended badly.

None of that changes one simple fact, Texas has the BMDs to make money no object when it comes to getting in a proven winner. Lets face it, if Dabo comes to Texas it will be because Texas money whipped the shit out of him, just like they tried to do with Saban. If he doesn't it's because of something other than money, because the advantages Texas has over Clemson are ridiculous. I've been to both Universities, Clemson is a beautiful University with lots of rolling hills, but much like B/CS there isn't much there outside of the University.

The point I was trying to make is, if you fire Tom Herman, you don't go out and hire another Tom Herman, this isn't a place where you learn on the job like he has had to, you hire a proven winner. You go to the best with a package that shows him we are committed to him coming to Austin and turning it into a juggernaut. If Dabo says no, it won't be because Clemson can offer him more, it will be because of some non-football related reason. Then you move onto the next candidate. Don't just assume that because he is successful at Clemson he would never leave, you make him tell you no.

[pgardn]

All that money..... No Saban

Best thing not to happen to UT

[Kermit]

I seem to remember a lot of people on various horn sites expressing their feelings that a certain big money donor should STFU about the choices Texas made in head coaches. And to think, Red was right about Charlie Strong. It was the BMDs that set us up to get Saban and Mack killed it, then he shit on his last recruiting class. Mack Brown was a POS for screwing over this program and leaving it worse than he found it. Then Texas screws themselves by hiring the worst AD in the history of college sports. who in turn makes a coaching hire for all the wrong reasons. Everything ended badly.

None of that changes one simple fact, Texas has the BMDs to make money no object when it comes to getting in a proven winner. Lets face it, if Dabo comes to Texas it will be because Texas money whipped the shit out of him, just like they tried to do with Saban. If he doesn't it's because of something other than money, because the advantages Texas has over Clemson are ridiculous. I've been to both Universities, Clemson is a beautiful University with lots of rolling hills, but much like B/CS there isn't much there outside of the University.

The point I was trying to make is, if you fire Tom Herman, you don't go out and hire another Tom Herman, this isn't a place where you learn on the job like he has had to, you hire a proven winner. You go to the best with a package that shows him we are committed to him coming to Austin and turning it into a juggernaut. If Dabo says no, it won't be because Clemson can offer him more, it will be because of some non-football related reason. Then you move onto the next candidate. Don't just assume that because he is successful at Clemson he would never leave, you make him tell you no.

Texas: Dabo..

Dabo: No.

Texas: Pleas..

Dabo: No.

Texas: We have...

Dabo: No.

Texas: D..

Dabo: No.

Texas: I guess we’ll go ask Ed Orgeron.

[Blake]

Texas: Dabo..

Dabo: No.

Texas: Pleas..

Dabo: No.

Texas: We have...

Dabo: No.

Texas: D..

Dabo: No.

Texas: I guess we’ll go ask Ed Orgeron.

THEY'LL JUST MONEY WHIP DABO INTO SUBMISSION CUZ BMDS

[Vito Corleone]

THEY'LL JUST MONEY WHIP DABO INTO SUBMISSION CUZ BMDS

Aggy said the same thing about Mack Brown back in 1997.

Sand aggy = regular aggy

[Kermit]

Aggy said the same thing about Mack Brown back in 1997.

Sand aggy = regular aggy

We didn’t money whip Mack. Plus, everyone wanted Gary Barnett. I didn’t see Texas going after Bobby Bowden or Tom Osborne and offering them millions. Thankfully.

[Blake]

Aggy said the same thing about Mack Brown back in 1997.

Sand aggy = regular aggy

Good for Aggy.

Low rent Clemson out money whipped UT. Now what?

[pgardn]

Good for Aggy.

Low rent Clemson out money whipped UT. Now what?

I would say suffering.

Better than having to look at and listen to Nick Satin.

[Vito Corleone]

Good for Aggy.

Low rent Clemson out money whipped UT. Now what?

Has Texas gone after Dabo? Did playblair take over your account?

[Vito Corleone]

We didn’t money whip Mack. Plus, everyone wanted Gary Barnett. I didn’t see Texas going after Bobby Bowden or Tom Osborne and offering them millions. Thankfully.

That is revisionist history. We had a committee of BMDs they wanted Mack, Deloss wanted Barnett, BMDs met with Mack and and told Deloss to meet with him, he did and offered him the job. The only person that wanted Barnett was Deloss. What makes you think we didn't money whip Mack. His original contract was the average of the two highest paid coaches at the time. 5 million back in 97 was a huge contract for a coach.

[Kermit]

That is revisionist history. We had a committee of BMDs they wanted Mack, Deloss wanted Barnett, BMDs met with Mack and and told Deloss to meet with him, he did and offered him the job. The only person that wanted Barnett was Deloss. What makes you think we didn't money whip Mack. His original contract was the average of the two highest paid coaches at the time. 5 million back in 97 was a huge contract for a coach.

Lol, they weren’t paying him $5 million a season in 1998! A simple internet search would show that they paid him $750,000 in 1998. It went up to a $1 million the next season. They didn’t pay him $5 million until 2009 when shit hit the fan and everyone bitched about a coach getting paid that much during cutbacks. Also, Tom Hicks really wanted Mack Brown. I wouldn’t say all the donors at the time were completely enamored with him. He definitely won them over though.

Here’s an article on salaries at the time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1999/01/03/with-incentives-college-coaches-are-cashing-in/9835e945-9e1d-4315-9b3a-2f4d43def093/

[Blake]

Has Texas gone after Dabo? Did playblair take over your account?

Well no, Texas hasn't gone after Dabo because they can't out money whip Clemson at the moment.

[Blake]

Lol Texas couldn't even outwhip SoCal to keep Harrell in Texas.

[Vito Corleone]

Well no, Texas hasn't gone after Dabo because they can't out money whip Clemson at the moment.

When you say shit like this you lose all credibility. Texas isn't in a search mode for a new coach, or maybe you didn't see that we still have a head coach. Now I'm starting to think playblair is your sock.



Lol Texas couldn't even outwhip SoCal to keep Harrell in Texas.


Did we try? All we did was interview him, did you ever think we might not wanted him? There was not a single article that we offered him a contract and he turned it down, and even if there was, more than likely it had more to do with other demands he asked for that Texas was unwilling to give him.

[Vito Corleone]

Lol, they weren’t paying him $5 million a season in 1998! A simple internet search would show that they paid him $750,000 in 1998. It went up to a $1 million the next season. They didn’t pay him $5 million until 2009 when shit hit the fan and everyone bitched about a coach getting paid that much during cutbacks. Also, Tom Hicks really wanted Mack Brown. I wouldn’t say all the donors at the time were completely enamored with him. He definitely won them over though.

Here’s an article on salaries at the time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1999/01/03/with-incentives-college-coaches-are-cashing-in/9835e945-9e1d-4315-9b3a-2f4d43def093/

Thanks for posting the article. One of the following contracts was written to be the average of the top two head coaches at the time. I thought it was the first one. I didn't say all the BMDs wanted Mack, I said a search committee was formed and that committee was enamored with Mack. I believe the committee was made up of about 5 people. Hicks was one of them.

Here is an article on the hiring of Mack

https://www.hookem.com/story/daily-longhorn-football-history-1997-season/

[Blake]

When you say shit like this you lose all credibility. Texas isn't in a search mode for a new coach, or maybe you didn't see that we still have a head coach. Now I'm starting to think playblair is your sock.

WE DON'T REALLY WANT DABO. WE COULD GET HIM WITH DET MONEY WHIP BUT WE REALLY DON'T WANT HIM. WE LIKE LOW RENT TOM. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS YOU MUST BE PLAYBLAIR






Did we try? All we did was interview him, did you ever think we might not wanted him? There was not a single article that we offered him a contract and he turned it down, and even if there was, more than likely it had more to do with other demands he asked for that Texas was unwilling to give him.

WE BROUGHT HIM IN FOR AN INTERVIEW AND SOURCES SAY WE WANTED HIM BUT AFTER USC GAVE HIM $1 MILLION A YEAR WE DIDN'T WANT HIM. WE COULD HAVE MONEY WHIPPED HIM BUT HE SUCKS SO WELL JUST PAY LESS AND REALLY SHOW USC HOW THE MONEY WHIPPING FOR LESS IS DONE. WE'RE TEXAS WITH BMDS DAMMIT!

[Vito Corleone]

WE DON'T REALLY WANT DABO. WE COULD GET HIM WITH DET MONEY WHIP BUT WE REALLY DON'T WANT HIM. WE LIKE LOW RENT TOM. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS YOU MUST BE PLAYBLAIR

WE BROUGHT HIM IN FOR AN INTERVIEW AND SOURCES SAY WE WANTED HIM BUT AFTER USC GAVE HIM $1 MILLION A YEAR WE DIDN'T WANT HIM. WE COULD HAVE MONEY WHIPPED HIM BUT HE SUCKS SO WELL JUST PAY LESS AND REALLY SHOW USC HOW THE MONEY WHIPPING FOR LESS IS DONE. WE'RE TEXAS WITH BMDS DAMMIT!

LOL, you have just entered playblair status. Too much of a moron to have a real discussion with.

[Blake]

LOL, you have just entered playblair status. Too much of a moron to have a real discussion with.

Lol "real discussion"

You lost that as soon as you dropped the line "we Texas we gots billion dollar BMDS yo"

[Pelicans78]

I miss this thread.

[Kermit]

I miss this thread.

It’ll get going again after the LSU game.

[Vito Corleone]

It’ll get going again after the first loss to a team Texas should beat handily.

FIFY

[playblair]

shouldve hired lupoi/brewster/samples......never seen a school so afraid to play the bagman game........mack paid chance mock 100k to ride the bench........wtf happened to texas when did we get so pretentious that weve become a pac12 type of school..........