David Stern in critical condition

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1206981637248040960

[spurraider21]

yikes

det buls tag though

[baseline bum]

Damn, hope he pulls through ok. We all booed him but he created a somewhat level playing field where the small market Spurs could compete for titles.

[Bynumite]

Damn. He never revealed where the bodies are buried.

[basquetbol]

It's over/under time, will Stern be dead or alive seven days from today? I'm taking the under. Does anyone here have him in their death pool?

[DMC]

If he dies he dies

[lefty]

Damn. He never revealed where the bodies are buried.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

Damn, hope he pulls through ok. We all booed him but he created a somewhat level playing field where the small market Spurs could compete for titles.

He cleared the playing field for the Spurs? No, he tore sh** down for big market teams repeatedly and threw his company men into the mix to do hit jobs. Spurs have eight to ten titles without the likes of Stern. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're an insecure homer and not a completely ignorant doofus.

[baseline bum]

He cleared the playing field for the Spurs? No, he tore sh** down for big market teams repeatedly and threw his company men into the mix to do hit jobs. Spurs have eight to ten titles without the likes of Stern. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're an insecure homer and not a completely ignorant doofus.

OK Cosmored

[Spurtacular]

OK Cosmored (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18886)

You're the "Cosmored" here; or do you really think Jew was working for San Antonio?

:lmao

[baseline bum]

You're the "Cosmored" here; or do you really think Jew was working for San Antonio?

:lmao

OK Cosmored

[Chris Fall]

He cleared the playing field for the Spurs? No, he tore sh** down for big market teams repeatedly and threw his company men into the mix to do hit jobs. Spurs have eight to ten titles without the likes of Stern. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're an insecure homer and not a completely ignorant doofus.

Without the likes of Stern, who’s leading the Spurs to 8-10 titles? Keith Van Horn or Tony Battie?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Without the likes of Stern, who’s leading the Spurs to 8-10 titles? Keith Van Horn or Tony Battie?
Anyone can pull out a ping pong ball

[Spurtacular]

Without the likes of Stern, who’s leading the Spurs to 8-10 titles? Keith Van Horn or Tony Battie?

If you want to argue the Spurs are a byproduct of Stern cheating, fine. But he's actually sitting there saying Stern was looking out for the little guy. That's obvious bull shit from an ignoramus.

[baseline bum]

If you want to argue the Spurs are a byproduct of Stern cheating, fine. But he's actually sitting there saying Stern was looking out for the little guy. That's obvious bull shit from an ignoramus.

Hey shithead, list the specific 4 to 6 years Stern cheated the Spurs out of a title.

[Chris Fall]

Anyone can pull out a ping pong ball

Stern brought the lottery to the NBA. Argue if you want that it could have eventually happened regardless of Stern, which isn’t necessarily true. Tanking hasn’t pushed the NFL or MLB into using a lottery system. NHL only has a lottery BECAUSE they followed Stern and the NBA. Stern is the one. He’s the one who not only considered it but implemented the idea to the NBA draft. Him. Without it, Spurs don’t get Duncan. That’s just facts.

[LkrFan]

Hey shithead, list the specific 4 to 6 years Stern cheated the Spurs out of a title.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

Anyone can pull out a ping pong ball

Odds were too real and advantageous to the worse teams, so Stern stopped doing that. :lol at this nonsense that Stern's looking out...

[Spurtacular]

Hey shithead, list the specific 4 to 6 years Stern cheated the Spurs out of a title.

04 - .04
12 - WCF Gm 5

Those are the two most prominent examples off the top of my head. Spurs were getting shanked all the time though by Stern's company men, though.

[Jeremy]

Stern brought the lottery to the NBA. Argue if you want that it could have eventually happened regardless of Stern, which isn’t necessarily true. Tanking hasn’t pushed the NFL or MLB into using a lottery system. NHL only has a lottery BECAUSE they followed Stern and the NBA. Stern is the one. He’s the one who not only considered it but implemented the idea to the NBA draft. Him. Without it, Spurs don’t get Duncan. That’s just facts.

Or Robinson. Spurs didn't have the worst record in 1986-87, either.

[baseline bum]

04 - .04
12 - WCF Gm 5

Those are the two most prominent examples off the top of my head. Spurs were getting shanked all the time though by Stern's company men, though.

You said they would have won 8 to 10 titles. You only listed two games. First one there was no instant replay and the clock started late anyways so it wouldn't have gotten overturned. Second one you got the game wrong: it was Game 6 the Spurs got hosed by the refs. So they got fucked out of a Game 7 at home in 2012, which was absolutely unforgivable. Still ain't something that cost them 4-6 titles.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You said they would have won 8 to 10 titles. You only listed two games. First one there was no instant replay and the clock started late anyways so it wouldn't have gotten overturned. Second one you got the game wrong: it was Game 6 the Spurs got hosed by the refs. So they got fucked out of a Game 7 at home in 2012, which was absolutely unforgivable. Still ain't something that cost them 4-6 titles.

Game 6 the Spurs got absolutely hosed, but game 5 was pretty awful too... that 4th quarter where Durant/Harden got free throws every time they were breathed on but Duncan couldn't buy a call in the paint.

Spurs would have beaten Miami that year. Miami peaked in 2013 and we all know how close the Spurs were that year. And don't forget the Ray Allen tug on Manu's arm on the last play of overtime in Game 6. That's two championships right there.

Could you pull another 2 out of your ass? Possibly, plausibly, definitely. 2006. While Manu's swipe on Dogface was a bonehead decision, you don't make that call at the end of a Game 7, you just don't. Could the Mavs have hit a three on the next possession, or the Spurs missed a free throw? Absolutely, but the analytics don't favor it. No way we lose to the undermanned Suns that year considering their only real weapon against us was out on IR. And the Heat that year? They were determined as hell, but I don't think they were quite talented enough to beat the Spurs that year. Would have been a dogfight.

2016. Timmy's last ride. Best Spurs team probably ever, at least in the regular season. Unfortunately that year coincided with the best regular-season NBA team in history. Spurs definitely should have beaten OKC though, and the refs were truly awful against us in the guts of games 2 and 5 that year. Would they have beaten the Warriors? Considering how well OKC (and Cleveland!) did, they would have certainly had a chance. You just never know.

[ambchang]

How did this thread turn into a thread about if the spurs got everything going for them?

[R. DeMurre]

I love the examples of individual calls in games that are somehow the fault of David Stern. Geez, if you're going to have a conspiracy theory, at least have one that makes sense. Or even examples of clear fouls (Ginobili on Dirk) that prove cheating because they were called? :lol Even Manu agrees it was a foul. Oh well, homers gonna homer.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I love the examples of individual calls in games that are somehow the fault of David Stern. Geez, if you're going to have a conspiracy theory, at least have one that makes sense. Or even examples of clear fouls (Ginobili on Dirk) that prove cheating because they were called? :lol Even Manu agrees it was a foul. Oh well, homers gonna homer.

It's not a foul that you call on the last possession of a game 7. Everyone knows you are supposed to swallow your whistles at the end of a game, ESPECIALLY a close playoff game, unless the contact, a) clearly disables the guy's ability to get off a realistically makeable shot attempt (OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CASE), and/or b) is forcible or borderline flagrant... neither of which were the case.

If Manu getting 80% ball and 20% hand on Dogface was a foul, then how about Gay Allen raking Manu's arm on the next to last play of OT in 6 ?


I hope Kike Stern dies painfully and morbidly, tbh. Just too bad my grandmother had to die before that old WWE-level cheating, game-fixing faggot. Good riddance :toast

[R. DeMurre]

It's not a foul that you call on the last possession of a game 7. Everyone knows you are supposed to swallow your whistles at the end of a game, ESPECIALLY a close playoff game, unless the contact, a) clearly disables the guy's ability to get off a realistically makeable shot attempt (OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CASE), and/or b) is forcible or borderline flagrant... neither of which were the case.

If Manu getting 80% ball and 20% hand on Dogface was a foul, then how about Gay Allen raking Manu's arm on the next to last play of OT in 6 ?


I hope Kike Stern dies painfully and morbidly, tbh. Just too bad my grandmother had to die before that old WWE-level cheating, game-fixing faggot. Good riddance :toast


Thanks for proving once again that you're an idiot racist who knows very little about basketball.

[illusioNtEk]

we all going to die... :( we where born to late for a chance to live forever

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1212480183015485441?s=19

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1212480183015485441?s=19