Time To Sit Manu? [Archive] - SpursTalk.com Forums

timvp

11-02-2005, 06:27 PM

A lot of people claimed Manu would be good to go this season after a summer off to rest and would ready to play big minutes. That lasted all of zero (0) games.

Manu wasn't Manu last night. He couldn't jump, as he admitted after the game. My question is why play him if he's not 100%? With how deep this team is, Manu should be given the next couple weeks off to let his bruised thigh heal.

Playing a 90% Manu makes no sense in this situation. Let him heal and then come back and average his 25-28 minutes for the regular season.

Then unleash the beast in the playoffs.

:smokin

Horry For 3!

11-02-2005, 06:28 PM

Yeah, you could really tell he was hurting out there. He didn't look anywhere near healthy.

Marcus Bryant

11-02-2005, 06:29 PM

That's the real value of Finley. If he can develop into a crunch time player, well, that's icing on the amnesty clause cake.

ChumpDumper

11-02-2005, 06:29 PM

Bench him now.

We can sign him for less in 2010.

timvp

11-02-2005, 06:31 PM

Bench him now.

We can sign him for less in 2010.

Nice.

:rollin

Obstructed_View

11-02-2005, 06:32 PM

I think the Spurs should put him in a glass case and label it "break in case of playoffs".

Seriously, the dude had a bruise, and he wasn't going to make it worse by playing. He's got three days to rest before the next game. Why sit him out of a season opener at home on ring night against a team everybody hates that they won anyway?

BigVee

11-02-2005, 06:32 PM

Yep, he could still get to the rim, just no elevation. Still I think you want him on the floor in the 4th, IF the game is in doubt. Otherwise, let Barry play and Manu heal. I agree.

Bruno

11-02-2005, 06:34 PM

It's a bruised quadriceps so he will be 100% very soon. (maybe in two days for the next game)

HB22inSA

11-02-2005, 06:35 PM

I'm going to pull my hair out already!!!

Manu's tired, he's hurt, oh my god, his thigh hurts.

Suck it up and play basketball already!!!

BigVee

11-02-2005, 06:39 PM

Manu's not saying this shit, we are.

T Park

11-02-2005, 06:41 PM

Bench him now.

We can sign him for less in 2010.

lol Good one Chump

I'm going to pull my hair out already!!!

Manu's tired, he's hurt, oh my god, his thigh hurts.

Suck it up and play basketball already!!!

Easily the stupidest thing youve ever posted.

Brutalis

11-02-2005, 06:43 PM

Manu has nothing to prove, unless he is trying to show off that hair style. Let him rest I say!

ChumpDumper

11-02-2005, 06:45 PM

It's just a bruise, so no. Some PT probably does him more good than rest.

A sprain or sore knee? That's a different story.

timvp

11-02-2005, 06:54 PM

It's just a bruise, so no. Some PT probably does him more good than rest.

A sprain or sore knee? That's a different story.

He missed games with the same injury last season. He was limited in game three of the Finals with the same injury.

Have Spurs fans forgotten already?

timvp

11-02-2005, 06:55 PM

Manu's not saying this shit, we are.

Listen to the post game audio. Manu said he had no elevation. He said it hurt. Pop said Manu is about 85%.

Why play him?

Obstructed_View

11-02-2005, 06:56 PM

He missed games with the same injury last season. He was limited in game three of the Finals with the same injury.

Have Spurs fans forgotten already?
It wasn't the same injury, it was a similar injury. He didn't have the same bruise for four months. You are being overly dramatic.

Oh, Gee!!

11-02-2005, 06:56 PM

We can't because the Suns will steal him

Kori Ellis

11-02-2005, 06:58 PM

It wasn't the same injury, it was a similar injury. He didn't have the same bruise for four months. You are being overly dramatic.

:lmao

timvp wasn't saying that it was the same bruise :lol

timvp

11-02-2005, 06:58 PM

It wasn't the same injury, it was a similar injury. He didn't have the same bruise for four months. You are being overly dramatic.

Woah.

That's a little overboard there.

Comprehension.

ChumpDumper

11-02-2005, 07:04 PM

He missed games with the same injury last season. He was limited in game three of the Finals with the same injury.

Have Spurs fans forgotten already?It is game one (1), after all.

angel_luv

11-02-2005, 07:06 PM

How about no! =)

Obstructed_View

11-02-2005, 07:07 PM

:lmao

timvp wasn't saying that it was the same bruise :lol

I'm sorry. Then please explain what this means:

He missed games with the same injury last season. He was limited in game three of the Finals with the same injury.

Have Spurs fans forgotten already?

It sounds to me like he's worried that Manu is still going to be feeling the effects of this bruise in June, which is lamer than he thinks Manu is.

ggoose25

11-02-2005, 07:10 PM

pop should sit manu because manu is such a competitor he will always say that he is good to go....

Kori Ellis

11-02-2005, 07:12 PM

I'm sorry. Then please explain what this means:

He missed games with the same injury last season. He was limited in game three of the Finals with the same injury.

Have Spurs fans forgotten already?

It sounds to me like he's worried that Manu is still going to be feeling the effects of this bruise in June, which is lamer than he thinks Manu is.

He was answering ChumpDumper who said that a bruise isn't worth missing games over because it's not a sprain, etc. Timvp was just pointing out that he missed games last season for a bruise as well.

ChumpDumper

11-02-2005, 07:14 PM

I'm sure they'll get a chance to see how he does in practice and make the call.

timvp

11-02-2005, 07:15 PM

I'm sure they'll get a chance to see how he does in practice and make the call.

Too bad Manu hasn't practiced in the last three or four days.

Oops.

:smokin

Kori Ellis

11-02-2005, 07:16 PM

Well Manu was questionable or whatever for last night's game, so it's not unreasonable to think he might sit out over this bruise. He's gotten kneed in the same place twice in the last few weeks and admittedly doesn't have much lift right now.

I don't think he needs to miss more than a game or two to get healed though.

ChumpDumper

11-02-2005, 07:16 PM

Well there you go.

Will he practice tomorrow?

I have no problem with benching folks or being overprotective -- that's what all this depth is suppoed to be about right?

timvp

11-02-2005, 07:16 PM

So Obstructed View thinks I was saying it was the same bruise?

:rollin :spin :rollin

timvp

11-02-2005, 07:17 PM

Well there you go.

Will he practice tomorrow?

Limited. If at all.

But then again, Manu didn't practice during the second half of last season or in the playoffs.

ChumpDumper

11-02-2005, 07:19 PM

The only problem with keeping Manu off the court is the offense taken by his myriad followers.

Manu20

11-02-2005, 07:20 PM

Manu should sit out saturday night versus the Mavs.

:smokin

kolko

11-02-2005, 07:58 PM

Play him on Friday (game will be on in Argentina) and rest him on Saturday.

Mavs<Spurs

11-02-2005, 08:22 PM

Timvp, Marcus Bryant and Horryfor3 are all right about this.

We saw exactly what kind of effect this type of injury (which is what the man was saying) had on Manu in the Finals. He had horrible games because his game depends upon his ability to take it to the rim. He sucked it up and played, but really we are playing to win the title. What's the point of being this deep and playing Manu when he can't be that effective?

If he can't practice, why is he playing in the game?

You can start to screw up your game by starting bad habits when you are injured.
Same thing lifting weights.

boutons

11-02-2005, 08:25 PM

He's got 2 days of rest and therapy for his bruise.
I bet he's 150% for the weekend games.

Remember how he playing so nutz last November, 18 points per shot.

samikeyp

11-02-2005, 08:31 PM

Let him rest now....be warned though that if the Spurs drop games while he rests, all hell will break loose! :smokin

ploto

11-02-2005, 09:08 PM

I think he mostly wanted to play for opening night, but sit him Friday night, especially with the back-to-back.

spurschick

11-02-2005, 09:42 PM

The only problem with keeping Manu off the court is the offense taken by his myriad followers.

:rolleyes Maybe.

I'm not a mindreader (but I play one on TV), so I have no idea why Pop would play him if he was injured. From what I could see, he clearly wasn't 100%, but that didn't keep him from driving like a banshee to the basket a couple of times during the second half. I'm guessing it was the pressure of winning/losing the home opener on ring night. If the game hadn't been so close, he may not have played as much. All in all, he still put in 10 pts, grabbed 4 boards and had a steal. Not Manu numbers for 28 minutes, but it's better than a kick in the teeth.

Ginofan

11-02-2005, 10:30 PM

I'm all for some rest for Manu...save him for when we really need him. But as far as sitting him out...ehh I don't know how long you could keep him on a chain before he'd break loose. He loves to play, he wants to play no matter what.

ALVAREZ6

11-02-2005, 10:31 PM

Play him on Friday (game will be on in Argentina) and rest him on Saturday.
That's a great reason to let him play. Give the people what they want.

How many games per season do you guys get in Argentina?

kolko

11-02-2005, 11:14 PM

How many games per season do you guys get in Argentina?

Only 2 NBA games a week. Around 15 Spurs games all season.

beirmeistr

11-03-2005, 10:03 AM

I am glad that Manu played on opening night, even though his ability to drive and to jump was restricted. Pop could tell that he was not 100 percent and he still kept him in the game, so I have to assume Pop knows what he is doing. His shooting was off from the field but his free throws were fine. This was a big game and you want Manu in the big games.

Phenomanul

11-03-2005, 10:10 AM

I hope his two days of rest were enough.... I'm going to the cavs game on Friday and would be disappointed to not see him play.

nkdlunch

11-03-2005, 10:14 AM

Manu's fine, don't wet your panties yet.

1Parker1

11-03-2005, 10:31 AM

Bench Manu..........

Sincerely,
The Church of Tony :)

spur219

11-03-2005, 10:33 AM

Sit him until he is healthy

orhe

11-03-2005, 10:41 AM

ill get to watch the cavs game on friday too :) hopes he's 100% healthy but if he ain't lets just sit him :(

cheguevara

11-03-2005, 11:22 AM

Manu's fine, don't wet your panties yet.

Simon

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

11-03-2005, 01:06 PM

Bench Manu..........

Sincerely,
The Church of Tony :)

Start NVE

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/2839/church20dl.jpg

:lol

1Parker1

11-03-2005, 01:14 PM

Start NVE

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/2839/church20dl.jpg

:lol

:lmao :lmao Damnit, I need to photoshop a counter-photo for the Church of Tony.

....for all three of our members. :angel

Ghost Writer

11-03-2005, 01:26 PM

The Spurs can afford to let Manu sit and rest.

I think that MAnu lost his power ala Sampson after he cut his hair.

What happened to Manu's 'do?

Kori Ellis

11-03-2005, 01:29 PM

What happened to Manu's 'do?

Tim wanted to be the one with flowing locks this season.

1Parker1

11-03-2005, 01:46 PM

Tim wanted to be the one with flowing locks this season.

:lol What about Oberto?

Kori Ellis

11-03-2005, 01:47 PM

:lol What about Oberto?

He needs a haircut.

His hair is disgusting. :lol

1Parker1

11-03-2005, 02:05 PM

I thought I read somewhere that Oberto was going to go to Manu's barber to get that thing tamed?

Mavs<Spurs

11-03-2005, 02:36 PM

I hope his two days of rest were enough.... I'm going to the cavs game on Friday and would be disappointed to not see him play.

Showoff!

I'm jealous!

:depressed

Nikos

11-03-2005, 02:52 PM

He needs a haircut.

His hair is disgusting. :lol

:lol

timvp

12-12-2005, 06:56 PM

Bump.

So we are about six weeks into the season and Manu has been banged up and has never really gotten healthy. Why Pop doesn't bench him for a month or two to let him heal is mystifying. The Spurs won't be winning any championships without him, so why push him out there when he's 75% is stupid.

The Spurs have messed up by playing him as Manu has just gotten more and more hurt. Do the right thing and bench him until the All-Star break. Let him rest and recover from his various injuries.

P.S.

What happened to all those posters who said that with a summer off, Manu could play 35-40 minutes per game and wouldn't be as brittle?

Oops.

ducks

12-12-2005, 07:10 PM

this is why manu will not get another contract with the spurs

ducks

12-12-2005, 07:17 PM

The Spurs can afford to let Manu sit and rest.

I think that MAnu lost his power ala Sampson after he cut his hair.

What happened to Manu's 'do?

the spurs have to have him healthy in the players or get someone close or equally value for june

remingtonbo2001

12-12-2005, 07:46 PM

Have any of you ever had a deep thigh buise. It HURTS. No, not like your ordinary, average, everday bruise. It's weird. I was sore for 5-7 days when mine occured. After that period, the pain is usually minimal, that is, until something comes in direct contact with it. It doesn't take much pressure to cause a great deal of pain. A knee may come in contact, or something of the sorts, in which the pain is introduced again for another 5 days. It's similar to the pain of a charlie horse, but it's constant, it doesn't go away in a mere 30 minutes. Not fun. It's such a bitch ass injury. It's a naggin injury. Unless he can avoid the majority of contact during the game, pshh, (ain't gonna happen), then it will take up to a year to heal. Sit him out for 2 weeks. To be safe. A couple of losses won't hurt. This may be a good oportunity for others to step up, as it they already haven't. Best way I can describe this injury for those who haven't experienced it, hmmm....If you have ever had a dislocated thumb, or well any finger for that matter, or a severe spain (jam) to the finger, similar pain, always naggin with the slighest bump.

boutons

12-12-2005, 07:54 PM

"A couple of losses won't hurt."

Pistons 2L
Spurs 4L

My position is that EVERY loss hurts, but if Manu/etc's injuries cost us Finals HCA, so be it.

But losing HCA, to injury losses or whatever, DOES HURT!

spurschick

12-12-2005, 08:14 PM

What happened to all those posters who said that with a summer off, Manu could play 35-40 minutes per game and wouldn't be as brittle?

Oops.

No shit! Who knew? It seemed logical that time off would be the best thing for him, but obviously he just needs to play constantly until he finally drops dead.

timvp

12-12-2005, 08:21 PM

No shit! Who knew? It seemed logical that time off would be the best thing for him, but obviously he just needs to play constantly until he finally drops dead.

Pop recently said that Manu taking the summer off actually hurt him. He said that Manu is the type of player that has to stay sharp or else he could injure himself trying to get back into the flow.

So Argentina, you can have him in the summers.

CharlieMac

12-12-2005, 08:24 PM

Obstructed_View

12-12-2005, 08:32 PM

So we are about six weeks into the season and Manu has been banged up and has never really gotten healthy. Why Pop doesn't bench him for a month or two to let him heal is mystifying. The Spurs won't be winning any championships without him, so why push him out there when he's 75% is stupid.

The Spurs have messed up by playing him as Manu has just gotten more and more hurt. Do the right thing and bench him until the All-Star break. Let him rest and recover from his various injuries.

P.S.

What happened to all those posters who said that with a summer off, Manu could play 35-40 minutes per game and wouldn't be as brittle?

Oops.
So are we going to have to hear you say "I told you so" if he gets hit by a bus? How does jamming his foot two weeks ago have anything to do with the six month bruise you were bitching about in November?

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 08:35 PM

So are we going to have to hear you say "I told you so" if he gets hit by a bus? How does jamming his foot two weeks ago have anything to do with the six month bruise you were bitching about in November?

You still don't get that he didn't say that it was the same exact bruise for six months just that it was the same (type of) injury?

smeagol

12-12-2005, 08:37 PM

Well, I guess Manu proves wrong that theory everybody is so fond off that you have to rest over the summer in order not to get injured.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

12-12-2005, 08:52 PM

Nice hating job, timvp. I could expect this from Sequ or Ducks *Sigh*...trade Manu for Vince Carter, now!

Obviously Manu will get a minnor injury here and there, it's his style of play. If you want him injury-free for 82 games ask him to transform himself into Peja Stojakovic, sitting outside the 3 point line and trying to avoid the paint and physical contact at all costs. One thing is for sure: playing in the summer has nothing to do with a bruised bone or a twisted ankle.

Manu isn't playing 35 minutes per game, but do you people realize that he is in a rotation that includes Michael Finley, Bruce Bowen and Brent Barry? They aren't Devin Brown, and certainly they aren't Hedo Turkoglu. If he played 40 minutes against the Raptors in the regular season people would be complaining that Pop is playing him too much and not using the depth of the bench.

3 or 4 minnor injuries so far in the season, this should help to shut up the people who call Manu a flopper. If he wouldn't exaggerate contact he would get seriously injured by some scrub like Fortson.

spurschick

12-12-2005, 08:52 PM

Pop recently said that Manu taking the summer off actually hurt him. He said that Manu is the type of player that has to stay sharp or else he could injure himself trying to get back into the flow.

So Argentina, you can have him in the summers.

Or he can play in the summer league! :lol
Since he plans on playing this summer, I guess we can expect him to have one of his best seasons ever in 2006-07.

Obstructed_View

12-12-2005, 08:53 PM

You still don't get that he didn't say that it was the same exact bruise for six months just that it was the same (type of) injury?
Go back and read it. That was the implication, just as the implication with bumping it is "see, I told you he'd get hurt" as soon as something completely different happens. He's an NBA player. He might get hurt. Are you going to just sit him on the bench?

It's a completely stupid line of logic to imply that a summer of rest did more harm than good and then go on to say that resting him NOW is somehow going to be beneficial when, following the logic, the only reason he's hurt now is because of all the rest he got.

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 08:53 PM

Nice hating job, timvp. I could expect this from Sequ or Ducks *Sigh*...trade Manu for Vince Carter, now!

timvp saying that the Spurs should rest him because they definitely need him in the playoff is hate? how?

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 08:56 PM

Go back and read it. That was the implication, just as the implication with bumping it is "see, I told you he'd get hurt" as soon as something completely different happens. He's an NBA player. He might get hurt. Are you going to just sit him on the bench?

It's a completely stupid line of logic to imply that a summer of rest did more harm than good and then go on to say that resting him NOW is somehow going to be beneficial when, following the logic, the only reason he's hurt now is because of all the rest he got.

I went back and re-read it. And he was responding to ChumpDumper who said not to sit him because it was a bruise not a sprain. Timvp was responding saying that Manu missed time due the same (type of) injury last postseason.

td4mvp21

12-12-2005, 08:58 PM

Parker and Duncan can pick up the slack, they did for most of the 2002-2003 season and a lot of the 2003-2004 season. Plus we have better back up guards now, so I dont think his injury is a HUGE problem. But we definitely want fully healthy late in the season (Late Feb-Early March).

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

12-12-2005, 08:59 PM

timvp saying that the Spurs should rest him because they definitely need him in the playoff is hate? how?

He bumping his own thread, calling that Manu can't play in the regular season, again. Manu isn't tired right now, he just suffered injuries, this is a contact sport, minnor injuries happen all the time, specially with Manu's style. Manu's been here before, he can handle the minutes. The only change he has to make is to avoid hard fouls when he goes into the paint. Now he obviously has the attention of the opposition coaches and bigs with fouls to give, so one of them might injury him really bad.

Many players in the league with a similar style of play suffer minnor injuries all the time, we just don't hear about them because we focus on the Spurs.

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 09:01 PM

spurschick

12-12-2005, 09:05 PM

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

12-12-2005, 09:09 PM

One thing that I don't understand is how Manu gets so banged up all the time. Yes, I understand that it's his playing style and he takes a lot of contact. But other guys in the league (whether you believe it or not) play as hard as Manu. And they aren't always banged up (or maybe they play through injuries better?).

Before Manu came to the Spurs, was he often injured? I'm not trying to bash him. I'm just trying to figure it out. He gets "tired" fairly easily from his style of play and by season's end is more fatigued than most players in the league. (Though he can still perform).

Should the Spurs just let him play 35+ minutes a game because he is going to get tired and banged up no matter what? They already limit his practice more than any other player I've ever seen.

I just don't want Manu to be out of the league in a few years due to his body being banged up over and over again. Can the Spurs protect him from that happening?

Does he need more vitamins? Better conditioning? Does he need to gain more muscle mass?

I know this seems like a crazy post, but Manu is a self-proclaimed crazy player .. so I guess it's fitting.

Before he came to the NBA, he didn't miss much games because it's a whole different game in Europe. If Manu was killing them with penetrations, the defense switched to a zone to cover the paint and let him shoot a three pointer or force him to kick it out. Except for a few teams, in Europe there isn't a tradition of hard fouling the penetrations or trying to win with more muscle than the oppostion, because of the bigger reliance on zone defenses and fundamentals. As for the playing time ('tho I don't agree with this), the seasons aren't that long (a very sucessful season with Kinder meant something like 55/60 games -playoffs included), and less minutes (40 minutes per game in the end of the season, that's a lot less minutes).

td4mvp21

12-12-2005, 09:11 PM

Its good to know that no one cares about the MVP's little issue.....

smeagol

12-12-2005, 09:14 PM

P.S.

What happened to all those posters who said that with a summer off, Manu could play 35-40 minutes per game and wouldn't be as brittle?

Oops.
What happened with all those posters that claim that resting through the summer is so much better than playing.

Look at Manu, look at Tony . . .

Ooops

ALVAREZ6

12-12-2005, 09:16 PM

^^^^^

Which brings us to our next point, Manu and TP should always play in the summer for their countries. Whether is the Olympics, World Championship, or the qualifying tournament for either....they should play.

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 09:16 PM

What happened with all those posters that claim that resting through the summer is so much better than playing.

Look at Manu, look at Tony . . .

Ooops

Maybe resting Manu this summer was better than him playing. If he played, he might be even more injured right now. We don't know. And we don't want to know.

SouthernFried

12-12-2005, 09:19 PM

Manu plays on the edge...more than most players I've seen.

People say he "flops" a lot. Ok, he does do that. But, half the reason you see Manu flying all over the place, is because he's on the edge of his ability and balance. It only takes a slight bump to unblalance you when your walking a tightrope.

He throws himself around out there, more than almost anyone else in the league...and that puts himself in situations where he's gonna get bumped...but, it also taxes his own body more than most. He'll throw his body into people, rather than avoid them. Half the time the boy is simply out of control and on the edge. But, fortunately, he has slow enough hands at the end of the play to finish 'em off.

Manu pushes his body harder than most...which makes him look athletic, which he is... but, mostly, he's just simply trying harder. How many times have you seen Manu flying around for a steal, or to save an outta bounds play...or flying in trying for a block. The boy is biggest hustler on the team...and that's gonna take a toll.

Oh, I know others play hard. But, I firmly believe, that no one on the Spurs plays harder than Manu, physically. Bowen plays hard, but, in control...Manu being in control is almost an oxymoron.

He simply demands more of his body and talent, than most do. So, he will pay the consequences more than most.

smeagol

12-12-2005, 09:21 PM

the spurs have to have him healthy in the players or get someone close or equally value for june
Sure, lets trade Manu. He only bailed out the team numerous times during last year's playoff run. But now he will sit out a week. So he should go

You are a hypocrite, ducks

PS

There is nobody in the league you can get for the same value. Get it through you thick head.

smeagol

12-12-2005, 09:24 PM

Maybe resting Manu this summer was better than him playing. If he played, he might be even more injured right now. We don't know. And we don't want to know.
I agree with you that we will never know.

But the facts are that he played through the 2004 summer and last season he had an All Star season (and MVP like playoffs). He did not play this summer and he is not having such a great season. And I'm not talking about injuries.

The opposite can be said about Tony.

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 09:24 PM

He simply demands more of his body and talent, than most do. So, he will pay the consequences more than most.

So you just think this is how it will always be? He'll always be banged up a lot. For his sake, I just wish they could give him some vitamins to help him stay healthy.

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 09:25 PM

He did not play this summer and he is not having such a great season. And I'm not talking about injuries.

His stats are actually about the same as they were last year in the regular season.

smeagol

12-12-2005, 09:27 PM

His stats are actually about the same as they were last year in the regular season.
Damn you with your factual facts, Kori :spin

Kori Ellis

12-12-2005, 09:28 PM

Damn you with your factual facts, Kori :spin

:lol

You are right though. He hasn't "looked" as good. He's not as explosive.

I blame the hair.

SouthernFried

12-12-2005, 09:30 PM

Manu will have to slow down sometime. It's inevitable. His game will change. He'll have to concentrate more on footwork, and controlled moves...rather than the chaos and out of control stuff he does now. His body just wont allow him to do otherwise.

Most players of Manu's competiveness actually become better players, if less exciting...when their bodies finally tell them.."hey man, you can't do that to me anymore." I predict Manu will become an excellent penetrator and Passer...where he can keep his feet, and not have to do the aerobatic thing to get off a shot. He will still be able to dribble, and get around people...but, those last steps are always the hardest...hence, I think he'll become a great passer.

He'll adapt I'm sure.

Oh, and on edit...I don't think this will happen anytime real soon. Lucky for us ;)

carina_gino20

12-13-2005, 12:47 AM

the thing is, Manu can't take it easy on his body. He's been asked before if it weren't wiser to play in a less frenetic pace. His only response was, "I can't. I don't know how to."

smeagol

12-13-2005, 10:14 AM

:lol

You are right though. He hasn't "looked" as good. He's not as explosive.

I blame the hair.
I agree. Even though his stats are the same as last year (some, such as rebounds, are even better), it's the little things in his game that I miss. The rebound or steal when the Spurs are needing it the most, the clutch free throughs, in other words, the intangibles that so many people discount when talking about Manu's game.

Yes, he is averaging 15 pts a game, same as last year, but those intangibles are simply not the same as in the past.

ducks

12-13-2005, 10:59 AM

Sure, lets trade Manu. He only bailed out the team numerous times during last year's playoff run. But now he will sit out a week. So he should go

You are a hypocrite, ducks

PS

There is nobody in the league you can get for the same value. Get it through you thick head.

so you think manu is the best in the nba

spurs won a ring without manu and other teams have won rings without manu

ps

someone playing is better then someone on the bench in a suit and tie and can not play because he is hurt

smeagol

12-13-2005, 03:48 PM

so you think manu is the best in the nba
Point me to where I say this.

All I said is that given the amount of money he is paid, you cannot get equal value if you trade him

spurs won a ring without manu and other teams have won rings without manu
So? They also won a ring without TP. Barkley, Malone, Stockton and so many others never won a ring. What is your point?

ps

someone playing is better then someone on the bench in a suit and tie and can not play because he is hurt
So Manu has an unfortunate accident, lands on Bruce’s foot in practice, and you want to trade him?

Man, you are taking your Manu hate to a whole new level

SequSpur

12-13-2005, 05:21 PM

Smeagol,

Manu is ceramic. If he falls off the shelf, he is broken. Step out of the church for a moment

smeagol

12-13-2005, 05:56 PM

Smeagol,

Manu is ceramic. If he falls off the shelf, he is broken. Step out of the church for a moment
Sequ, your comment is stupid. It has no leg to stand on. Pretty much as most of your comments.

Manu has been injured, on average, just as much as any guard in this league. Last year he missed 8 games. Iverson, Redd and Nash missed 7; Hamilton 6, Wade 5. Jason Richardson missed 10, Jamal Crawford, 12, Kobe, Magette, Mobley, Kidd 16; Finley 18; Raja Bell 19; Larry Hughes 21, etc, etc, etc.