***OFFICIAL Week 17 Game Thread, Sponsored By The Decline of the Patriots

[Millennial_Messiah]

December 29, 2019
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NATIONAL BROADCASTS
Sunday Night: San Francisco @ Struggle (NBC)



CBS EARLY
https://506sports.com/2019/17-CBS-E.png █ Anchorage
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Miami @ New England
Greg Gumbel, Trent Green

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LA Chargers @ Kansas City
Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon

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NY Jets @ Buffalo
Tom McCarthy, Jay Feely



CBS LATE https://506sports.com/2019/17-CBS-L.png █ Anchorage
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Tennessee @ Houston
Jim Nantz, Tony Romo

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Pittsburgh @ Baltimore
Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts

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Oakland @ Denver
Andrew Catalon, James Lofton

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Indianapolis @ Jacksonville
Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta



FOX EARLY https://506sports.com/2019/17-FOX-E.png █ Anchorage
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Green Bay @ Detroit
Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis

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New Orleans @ Carolina
Kenny Albert, Ronde Barber

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Chicago @ Minnesota
Dick Stockton, Mark Schlereth

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Atlanta @ Tampa Bay
Tim Brando, Matt Millen

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Cleveland @ Cincinnati
Brandon Gaudin, Robert Smith



FOX LATE https://506sports.com/2019/17-FOX-L.png █ Anchorage
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Washington @ Dallas
Joe Buck, Troy Aikman

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Philadelphia @ NY Giants
Thom Brennaman, Chris Spielman

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Arizona @ LA Rams
Chris Myers, Daryl Johnston

[Will Hunting]

Andy, do you blame the Patriots for your dad walking out on you as a young child?

[Kim Jong-il]

It is funny that when the Patriots lose in the AFC Championship game, everyone will go “PATRIOTS DYNASTY OVER, BRADY AND BELICHICK ARE TOTAL TRASH” when just getting to a championship game is better than what 75% of teams have accomplished in a decade :lol

[Clipper Nation]

It is funny that when the Patriots lose in the AFC Championship game, everyone will go “PATRIOTS DYNASTY OVER, BRADY AND BELICHICK ARE TOTAL TRASH” when just getting to a championship game is better than what 75% of teams have accomplished in a decade :lol
:lol "when"
:lol Implying the Patriots aren't ringing this year

[Raven]

:lol "when"
:lol Implying the Patriots aren't ringing this year

there is a chance, but it would be pretty outrageous tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

Rooting heavily for Chiefs and Pats this week.

[FrostKing]

Saints & Seahawks signing anyone available

[Millennial_Messiah]

Rooting heavily for Chiefs and Pats this week.

Why the pats? They can't fall below #3 even with a loss. you get the shitty trick-or-treat texans either way.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I guess go panthers? These games are dull

[Will Hunting]

Are the Patriots really going to fuck up the easiest game on their schedule and what should be an easy bye week clinch?

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Brady...if New England loses this game their season is over.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Panthers are shit. but go lions tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

Are the Patriots really going to fuck up the easiest game on their schedule and what should be an easy bye week clinch?
Should be a double bye week tbh.

:lmao Brady...if New England loses this game their season is over.

How is their season over just because they would have to play a wildcard game? The Titans and Steelers are both awful.

[Will Hunting]

Should be a double bye week tbh.


How is their season over just because they would have to play a wildcard game? The Titans and Steelers are both awful.
I think Brady needs the extra week off to preserve himself physically, and they have a lot of minor injuries that need to heel if they want to have a prayer against KC or Baltimore. I'd take them over Tennessee / Pittsburgh, but I think they'd then fold against KC in a big way the next week.

[Will Hunting]

While Brady has shitty teammates that are largely the reason his offense spent the first half laying an egg, what's Rodgers' excuse? Healthy offensive line and he has all of his weapons, but he's not doing shit.

[Millennial_Messiah]

how much money that this game ends on an Aaron Rodgers hail mary?

[Millennial_Messiah]

While Brady has shitty teammates that are largely the reason his offense spent the first half laying an egg, what's Rodgers' excuse? Healthy offensive line and he has all of his weapons, but he's not doing shit.
he typically plays like shit at that stadium in terms of accuracy. he missed 2 wide open TDs and they settled for a field goal. and then the Packers gave the field goal back when the Lions had 19 seconds left from their own 25 :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think Brady needs the extra week off to preserve himself physically, and they have a lot of minor injuries that need to heel if they want to have a prayer against KC or Baltimore. I'd take them over Tennessee / Pittsburgh, but I think they'd then fold against KC in a big way the next week.

I don't think home field matters at all for KC though. they've beaten the Patriots in Foxboro 2 of the last 3 times, and the Pats won in KC last year. Even this year, 3 of the Chiefs' 4 losses are at home.

I don't see anyone in the AFC having a prayer against Baltimore, but KC is beatable, they are poorly coached and prone to too many mistakes. Their roster is very average outside of the QB and WRs/TE.

[Millennial_Messiah]

KC choking at home against bad team... would be totally vintage Andy Reid to lose this game if the Pats lose at home to Miami

[Clipper Nation]

Andy Reid is already in playoff mode before the playoffs have even started
Lamar Jackson has never done anything in the playoffs
The Bills' coaching staff is the new-age version of Martyball
The Texans are still the Texans
The NFC champion is a fraud more often than not

:lol And people still think the Patriots aren't going to cakewalk to another easy ring.

[DC23]

Pats are making me nervous right now

[Will Hunting]

Why is the media so fascinated by Dak Prescott's gay hip twerk drill?

[Will Hunting]

Andy Reid is already in playoff mode before the playoffs have even started
Lamar Jackson has never done anything in the playoffs
The Bills' coaching staff is the new-age version of Martyball
The Texans are still the Texans
The NFC champion is a fraud more often than not

:lol And people still think the Patriots aren't going to cakewalk to another easy ring.
The way the Patriots just got torched by multiple running plays from Fitzpatrick makes me think you're delusional for assuming they'll be able to stop Lamar Jackson.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Detroit a tough place for GB. Rodgers can't throw and Crosby can't kick.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Can the Patriots really make it to the Super Bowl on all these trick plays alone?

[Will Hunting]

Can the Patriots really make it to the Super Bowl on all these trick plays alone?
No.

[Will Hunting]

The Saints are the best team in the NFL imo. I don't see how they get beat if their defense can just play half decent.

[Pelicans78]

The Saints are the best team in the NFL imo. I don't see how they get beat if their defense can just play half decent.

The defense will find a way to allow a last second score on the road.

[Will Hunting]

The defense will find a way to allow a last second score on the road.
I could see them finally playing disciplined and not fucking it up...they're probably pissed as hell after the last 2 years.

[Millennial_Messiah]

If Fitz scores a GW TD here down 4 I'll suck his cock

[Spurtacular]

Bad News Bills. Geez this shee-ite team is f*cking up my parlay at home against the f'ing Jets. That -1 should've been a red flag.

[Spurtacular]

Bad News Bills. Geez this shee-ite team is f*cking up my parlay at home against the f'ing Jets. That -1 should've been a red flag.

And now missing an easy open field tackled against an RB not known for his toughness whatsoever. Fuck you, Jordan Phillips (leads the team in sacks and tackles for a loss, but decides to fuck it up there).

[Will Hunting]

The Patriots secondary has some of the most lethargic body language I've ever seen in an NFL game, they're just casually laying off and giving up huge chunks at a time.

[Will Hunting]

Stephon Gilmore should be sent to the gas chamber for hoe shittily he's played today.

[Millennial_Messiah]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

[DC23]

can't believe this. Pats going to lose their buy

[DAF86]

24 seconds for Brady to get into FG range isn't impossible, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fish should have gone for 2 there to go up four. What's to lose?

[Millennial_Messiah]

24 seconds for Brady to get into FG range isn't impossible, tbh.

Mahomes did it last year in the AFCCG.

[Will Hunting]

I predict Brady gets sacked on the first play on this drive.

[DAF86]

Fish should have gone for 2 there to go up four. What's to lose?

Mmh, the game?

[Will Hunting]

I hope Gilmore gets AIDS. What a fucking lazy n!gger.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:hat:hat:hat:hat:hat:hatMiami F***ing Dolphins :hat:hat:hat:hat:hat:hat


#TealGang !!!!!!!!!!

[AlexJones]

Julian Edelman is arguably the most overrated WR of all time

:lol "HOFer"
:lol replaceable by Danny Amendola

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bad News Bills. Geez this shee-ite team is f*cking up my parlay at home against the f'ing Jets. That -1 should've been a red flag.

Lesson learned, don't bet on a team with nothing to play for

[Will Hunting]

Julian Edelman is arguably the most overrated WR of all time

:lol "HOFer"
:lol replaceable by Danny Amendola
Everyone knows that Edelman is a system player, even Edelman does. He never tried asking for pro bowl receiver money the way Welker did.

[DAF86]

Damn, losing a first round bye and HCA on the divisional game by losing to the Dolphins of all teams, and at home, is very un-Patriots like.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I hope Gilmore gets AIDS. What a fucking lazy n!gger.

Without him you're light a ring last year.

[Ghazi]

The Saints are the best team in the NFL imo. I don't see how they get beat if their defense can just play half decent.

Niners ;) especially with a 1 seed

[Will Hunting]

Without him you're light a ring last year.
I didn't get a ring last year or any other year. Referring to sports teams in 1st and 2nd person is retarded.

[Will Hunting]

Niners ;) especially with a 1 seed
I'll be happy for J-Wop if it happens ;)

[Millennial_Messiah]

Rodgers with the good arm punt, tbh.

[Will Hunting]

Belichick should be taking the belt off and leaving some marks on his fuckstick son after this game, his shitty job getting the secondary prepared is the biggest reason they lost.

[Clipper Nation]

Damn, losing a first round bye and HCA on the divisional game by losing to the Dolphins of all teams, and at home, is very un-Patriots like.

Meh. Seeding doesn't matter, the bye doesn't matter. Today's AFC is a joke, they'll all fold against the Patriots when it matters until proven otherwise.

[Clipper Nation]

Belichick should be taking the belt off and leaving some marks on his fuckstick son after this game, his shitty job getting the secondary prepared is the biggest reason they lost.
Take it from someone who had to watch Austin Rivers get showcased for an entire season like he's some All-Star - nepotism is never good for a sports team.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao:lmao:lmao Jameis

[DAF86]

Meh. Seeding doesn't matter, the bye doesn't matter. Today's AFC is a joke, they'll all fold against the Patriots when it matters until proven otherwise.

I know you are semi-jinxing but this is huge, imho. Mahomes has no excuse to lose another playoffs game at home to the Patriots.

[Will Hunting]

Well refs are clearly pushing for another heroic :cry Rodgers comeback :cry

[Pelicans78]

BS roughing call on that flopping Rodgers.

[Pelicans78]

Well refs are clearly pushing for another heroic :cry Rodgers comeback :cry

Yeah that penalty was Bs.

[Will Hunting]

This game is a vintage Aaron Rodgers vs. shitty team performance. Can't wait for the NFL Live cast to jerk itself off about Rodgers leading a great comeback.

[Clipper Nation]

I know you are semi-jinxing but this is huge, imho. Mahomes has no excuse to lose another playoffs game at home to the Patriots.

He has one excuse: Andy Reid is still the Chiefs' coach.

[Millennial_Messiah]

One 12 clutch
The other not so much

[GAustex]

BS roughing call on that flopping Rodgers.
You’d be calling for it if it was Brees.

And Rodgers gonna pull those one out
Like he always does

[Millennial_Messiah]

BS roughing call on that flopping Rodgers.

Saints have to go to Lambeaux in round 2.

[GAustex]

The freakin Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field

[Clipper Nation]

"Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

- Aaron Godgers, Detroit, December 29, 2019

[DAF86]

One 12 clutch
The other not so much

In fairness to Brady, he did get a game leading TD drive with like 4 minutes to go.

[Pelicans78]

Saints have to go to Lambeaux in round 2.

Saints should kick their ass no matter where it’s played. Better team across the board.

[Millennial_Messiah]

"Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

- Aaron Godgers, Detroit, December 29, 2019
Aww man

No love for Detroit, December 3, 2015?

[Pelicans78]

Saints have to go to Lambeaux in round 2.

Not if the Niners lose.

[Will Hunting]

One 12 clutch
The other not so much
That's retarded. Brady put up more points than Rodgers did.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The freakin Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field

still have to go to SF if they get to the NFC CG

[Will Hunting]

"Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

- Aaron Godgers, Detroit, December 29, 2019
He put up 23 points against a 3 win team he had no business being down against in the first place. This game is a picturesque example of why he's so overrated.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not if the Niners lose.

they'd host Seattle

but I think Seattle is a better road than home team

[Millennial_Messiah]

He put up 23 points against a 3 win team he had no business being down against in the first place. This game is a picturesque example of why he's so overrated.

GB has had a very easy schedule this year. Still, 6-0 in the division is extremely rare and very hard to complete. Even the Patriots don't do it very often if ever.

[GAustex]

still have to go to SF if they get to the NFC CG
Hopefully them ‘boys can find a way and somehow end up in GB.
How fun would that be!

[DAF86]

Saints should kick their ass no matter where it’s played. Better team across the board.

Is Green Bay the worst 13-3 team in recent years? It seems like every game I saw of them they barely squeezed by.

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers obviously need to win to clinch #1 overall.

But the Seahawks are better off losing, since the #5 seed gets essentially a first round bye, while the #3 seed gets the tougher Vikings with Cook coming back with a vengeance.

[GAustex]

Is Green Bay the worst 13-3 team in recent years? It seems like every game I saw of them they barely squeezed by.
They be coasting. Gonna peak at $ time

[Millennial_Messiah]

Is Green Bay the worst 13-3 team in recent years? It seems like every game I saw of them they barely squeezed by.

are the 49ers really that much better though?

they lost at home to the shitty Failcons and barely squeezed by Arizona twice and let the no-offense Steelers hang around, too

[Clipper Nation]

He put up 23 points against a 3 win team he had no business being down against in the first place. This game is a picturesque example of why he's so overrated.
He won. Meanwhile, Media's favorite QB (Struggle) couldn't beat the awful Cardinals at home last week with a mega-stacked team and seeding on the line.

Godgers

[Millennial_Messiah]

If I'm Pete Carroll I'm resting Wilson tonight, maybe give Lynch 5 carries but that's it

[Will Hunting]

GB has had a very easy schedule this year. Still, 6-0 in the division is extremely rare and very hard to complete. Even the Patriots don't do it very often if ever.
Team accomplishments =/= individual accomplishments. The Packers defense played great this year and their strength on offense was running the ball. This wasn't by any stretch of the imagine a great individual season for Rodgers.

[DAF86]

49ers obviously need to win to clinch #1 overall.

But the Seahawks are better off losing, since the #5 seed gets essentially a first round bye, while the #3 seed gets the tougher Vikings with Cook coming back with a vengeance.

Not only that. Then getting SF on the second round is better than getting NO, imho.

[Will Hunting]

Well it’ll be nice to just be able to watch a Super Bowl and not have my blood pressure through the roof all game. There’s no team I truly despise (my hate for John Harbaugh is evened out by my love of Lamar), no playoff QB has a section of retarded stans thinking he’s on Brady’s level, so finally I can have a stress free Super Bowl experience.
The Rodgers nuthuggers say hi.

[DAF86]

are the 49ers really that much better though?

they lost at home to the shitty Failcons and barely squeezed by Arizona twice and let the no-offense Steelers hang around, too

Niners can still finish 12-4, tbh. But yeah, the Niners are better than GB, imho.

[Will Hunting]

He won. Meanwhile, Media's favorite QB (Struggle) couldn't beat the awful Cardinals at home last week with a mega-stacked team and seeding on the line.

Godgers
The fact you felt need to compare Rodgers to Struggle as a way to prop him up isn't exactly hurting my argument.

[Will Hunting]

Rodgers getting 2 doesn’t put him anywhere close to Brady, tbh, and everyone knows it. If he ever hits 3 then maybe I start rooting against him :lol
Whether or not it does or doesn't the Rodgers nuthuggers will definitely think it does. Just look at how the Manning stans acted after he Dilfered his way to a 2nd superbowl :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Let’s be real, Patriots are getting throttled by the Titans.

:lmao The Titans can't even stop the Texans' backups from marching down the field on them. The Patriots would beat them by 60.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not only that. Then getting SF on the second round is better than getting NO, imho.

how about Green Bay? Drew Brees doesn't play well in the cold, and it's January

[DAF86]

Whether or not it does or doesn't the Rodgers nuthuggers will definitely think it does. Just look at how the Manning stans acted after he Dilfered his way to a 2nd superbowl :lol

As if Brady hadn't "Dilfered" his way to about half of his rings. :lol

[Will Hunting]

:lmao The Titans can't even stop the Texans' backups from marching down the field on them. The Patriots would beat them by 60.
The Patriots just lost a game at home to the Dolphins that they no question wanted to win as much as any other game.

I think they beat Tennessee, but the game is by no means a lock. This team could go down against anyone.

[Millennial_Messiah]

let's be real Patriots fans are rooting against GB in the playoffs.

[Will Hunting]

As if Brady hadn't "Dilfered" his way to about half of his rings. :lol
Brady Dilfered his way to half of his superbowls and Manning Dilfered his way to his only two superbowls :lol

[benefactor]

AJ dealing:tu

[Millennial_Messiah]

Which ones?

last year and 2 of his first 3

[Will Hunting]

:lol playoff passer rating of Brady and Manning's 8 superbowls ranked best to worst

2004 Tom Brady - 109.4
2014 Tom Brady - 100.3
2016 Tom Brady - 97.7
2018 Tom Brady - 85.8
2003 Tom Brady - 84.5
2001 Tom Brady - 77.3
2015 Peyton Manning - 75.4
2006 Peyton Manning - 70.5

:lmao even if you call Brady's bottom 3 performances instances when he Dilfers his way to a superbowl, it still wasn't shameless Dilfering as bad as Manning's superbowls were

[Spurtacular]

And now missing an easy open field tackled against an RB not known for his toughness whatsoever. Fuck you, Jordan Phillips (leads the team in sacks and tackles for a loss, but decides to fuck it up there).

To give up the first on the 3rd down play with four minutes left. Bills were such fucking trash.

I should've put big money on NO and that MIA +17.5. Those stuck out at the time too. When you're on a losing streak, you just keep sucking though.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol playoff passer rating of Brady and Manning's 8 superbowls ranked best to worst

2004 Tom Brady - 109.4
2014 Tom Brady - 100.3
2016 Tom Brady - 97.7
2018 Tom Brady - 85.8
2003 Tom Brady - 84.5
2001 Tom Brady - 77.3
2015 Peyton Manning - 75.4
2006 Peyton Manning - 70.5

:lmao even if you call Brady's bottom 3 performances instances when he Dilfers his way to a superbowl, it still wasn't shameless Dilfering as bad as Manning's superbowls were

Comparing Peyton's playoff performances to Dilfer is an insult to Dilfer, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Green Bay and Seattle would be the worst 1-2 seeds in recent history:lol. Seattle has had a ton of luck in close games and GB isn't great at any facet of football.

Saints and 49ers are comfortably better, but it's the NFL, the best team often doesn't win.

[Will Hunting]

**UPDATED WITH TRENT DILFER ADDED***

2004 Tom Brady - 109.4
2014 Tom Brady - 100.3
2016 Tom Brady - 97.7
2018 Tom Brady - 85.8
2003 Tom Brady - 84.5
2000 Trent Dilfer - 83.7
2001 Tom Brady - 77.3
2015 Peyton Manning - 75.4
2006 Peyton Manning - 70.5

So actually Brady only Dilfered his way to 1 out of 6 superbowls, while Peyton Dilfered his way to 2 out of 2 :lol

[Spurtacular]

Julian Edelman is arguably the most overrated WR of all time

Not an argument I'd make, tbh.

[Will Hunting]

Comparing Peyton's playoff performances to Dilfer is an insult to Dilfer, tbh.
You beat me to it.

[Clipper Nation]

**UPDATED WITH TRENT DILFER ADDED***

2004 Tom Brady - 109.4
2014 Tom Brady - 100.3
2016 Tom Brady - 97.7
2018 Tom Brady - 85.8
2003 Tom Brady - 84.5
2000 Trent Dilfer - 83.7
2001 Tom Brady - 77.3
2015 Peyton Manning - 75.4
2006 Peyton Manning - 70.5

So actually Brady only Dilfered his way to 1 out of 6 superbowls, while Peyton Dilfered his way to 2 out of 2 :lol
Is it really "Dilfering" when you actually play a lot worse than Dilfer did? :lol

It should be called Peytoning instead, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Green Bay and Seattle would be the worst 1-2 seeds in recent history:lol. Seattle has had a ton of luck in close games and GB isn't great at any facet of football.

Saints and 49ers are comfortably better, but it's the NFL, the best team often doesn't win.
Seattle can't get the 2 seed now because they have 4 losses and GB/NO have 3.

[HarlemHeat37]

Seattle can't get the 2 seed now because they have 4 losses and GB/NO have 3.

Right, that's correct. Well hopefully SF wins so the Saints won't get a bye:lol

[Will Hunting]

Is it really "Dilfering" when you actually play a lot worse than Dilfer did? :lol

It should be called Peytoning instead, tbh.
I'll give Peyton credit for Dilfering in 2015. He was basically just plain mustard that year and allowed himself to get carried by a stud defense without fucking too much up.

2006 however I agree might be an insult to Dilfer, Dilfer would be too embarrassed to accept a ring for a playoff run where he threw 3 TDs and 7 interceptions :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Right, that's correct. Well hopefully SF wins so the Saints won't get a bye:lol

agreed

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think the Saints players are mostly a band of cool guys, but i'd like them to miss out to spite their annoying fans.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao

How do so many people lick Peyton’s balls as furiously as they do?

The same reason why CP0 and Harden get slurped so much. Some people are easily impressed by losers with nice regular season stats.

[DAF86]

Brady Dilfered his way to half of his superbowls and Manning Dilfered his way to his only two superbowls :lol

Just goes to show you how circunstances play a factor on how we perceive these players.

2007 Brady >>>>>>>>> 2001 Brady. Yet the 2001 version is the one that won the SB.

[Millennial_Messiah]

By the way.... this thread title was fire, tbh. :toast

[DAF86]

**UPDATED WITH TRENT DILFER ADDED***

2004 Tom Brady - 109.4
2014 Tom Brady - 100.3
2016 Tom Brady - 97.7
2018 Tom Brady - 85.8
2003 Tom Brady - 84.5
2000 Trent Dilfer - 83.7
2001 Tom Brady - 77.3
2015 Peyton Manning - 75.4
2006 Peyton Manning - 70.5

So actually Brady only Dilfered his way to 1 out of 6 superbowls, while Peyton Dilfered his way to 2 out of 2 :lol

2003 and 2018 Brady doesn't enter the Dilfer zone just because they have him beat by a couple of pts?

[Will Hunting]

2003 and 2018 Brady doesn't enter the Dilfer zone just because they have him beat by a couple of pts?
2018 Brady put up 37 points against the Chiefs and 41 points against the Chargers while averaging over 300 yards passing over 3 playoff games. It just so happens that the 4 touchdowns scored against the Chiefs were all running plays.

So no, to answer your question. I think saying that Brady's 2018 playoff run was Dilfering is fucking retarded.

[Clipper Nation]

Pretty rare for QB’s to Peyton their way to a ring. Roethlisberger & Elway both got one, after that you probably gotta go to the 60’s to find QB’s playing that bad and getting carried to a ring.
Struggle Peytoned his way to a ring against Peyton :lol

[Will Hunting]

Pretty rare for QB’s to Peyton their way to a ring. Roethlisberger & Elway both got one, after that you probably gotta go to the 60’s to find QB’s playing that bad and getting carried to a ring.
Has anyone really duplicated Peyton's 2006 performance to win a superbowl :lol

:lmao:lmao 3 touchdowns and 7 interceptions

Those are Jameis Winston level numbers.

[Clipper Nation]

Just goes to show you how circunstances play a factor on how we perceive these players.

2007 Brady >>>>>>>>> 2001 Brady. Yet the 2001 version is the one that won the SB.

:lol Peyton's "circumstances" usually involved going one-and-done in the playoffs with stacked teams.

[Will Hunting]

Struggle Peytoned his way to a ring against Peyton :lol
Struggle threw for 3 touchdowns and no interceptions that year.

Again, I'd say he Dilfered it, but it was by no means a Peyton-esk superbowl run where he took active measures to make his team lose only for it to still win :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Eagles are looking like shit against the Giants.

https://i.imgur.com/T7GevfL.gif

[Will Hunting]

:lol Peyton's "circumstances" usually involved going one-and-done in the playoffs with stacked teams.
:lol blaming Peyton's playoff bed shitting on "circumstances"

What circumstances made it so he had a 2013 Broncos team that he broke the regular season scoring record with yet when superbowl time came around, he wasn't able to do anything other than bend over, lube up, and let Pete Carroll/the legion of boom punish every hole in his body for 60 minutes :lol

:lmao 43-8 against on a neutral field against a team that had the same regular season record the Broncos had

[Clipper Nation]

:lol blaming Peyton's playoff bed shitting on "circumstances"

What circumstances made it so he had a 2013 Broncos team that he broke the regular season scoring record with yet when superbowl time came around, he wasn't able to do anything other than bend over, lube up, and let Pete Carroll/the legion of boom punish every hole in his body for 60 minutes :lol

:lmao 43-8 against on a neutral field against a team that had the same regular season record the Broncos had

:lol My favorite "circumstances" are when he shit the bed against Billy Volek at home and then choked against an 8-8 team in consecutive years.

[DAF86]

2018 Brady put up 37 points against the Chiefs and 41 points against the Chargers while averaging over 300 yards passing over 3 playoff games. It just so happens that the 4 touchdowns scored against the Chiefs were all running plays.

So no, to answer your question. I think saying that Brady's 2018 playoff run was Dilfering is fucking retarded.

Then why use QB rating in the first place? :lol

[AlexJones]

The Pats are going to win the SB. I can feel it.

[Will Hunting]

:lol My favorite "circumstances" are when he shit the bed against Billy Volek at home and then choked against an 8-8 team in consecutive years.
:lmao I almost forgot about the Billy Volek game

[DAF86]

:lmao focusing on minutiae to avoid the shit sandwich that is Peyton’s playoff career.

A shit sandwich playoffs career from which he still was able to get a couple SB's rings. Not bad, tbh.

[Will Hunting]

Then why use QB rating in the first place? :lol
There's no perfect singular stat to use, QB rating is just the one that at least attempts to factor everything in

:lol trying to distract with a red herring about QB rating because you have no defense for Peyton's only two superbowl runs being a total abortion

[Will Hunting]

A shit sandwich playoffs career from which he still was able to get a couple SB's rings. Not bad, tbh.
Some would say they were lucky circumstances, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

A shit sandwich playoffs career from which his defenses still were able to get a couple SB's rings in spite of him. Not bad, tbh.

fify

[Will Hunting]

The thing about Peyton is that his playoff losses aren't like Brees' playoff losses where he played really well and his defense just shat all over itself, there's a documented track record throughout his career of embarrassing offensive performances at the worst possible times irrespective of how good/bad his defense was.

You can't seriously still deny the fact that Peyton's play dropped off at big moments :lol

[DAF86]

There's no perfect singular stat to use, QB rating is just the one that at least attempts to factor everything in

:lol trying to distract with a red herring about QB rating because you have no defense for Peyton's only two superbowl runs being a total abortion

When the fuck did I try to defend Manning's two superbowl runs? In fact, I acknowledged it. :lol

[Will Hunting]

When the fuck did I try to defend Manning's two superbowl runs? In fact, I acknowledged it. :lol
I'm not talking about his superbowl runs. I'm talking about 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012 and 2013 :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Cowboys looking #GreatIn8-8 as always, tbh.

Just in time for an 8 year Garrett extension, tbh.

[DAF86]

:lmao finally admitting it after the evidence was too overwhelming to deny it.

-2nd all time in playoffs yds.
-2nd in completations.
-4th in TD's.
-5th in playoffs wins.
-10th in SB's rings.
-18th in passer rating.
-20th on yds per game.

NFL must have a pretty strong standard if that's considered a shit sandwich playoffs career, tbh.

[DAF86]

I'm not talking about his superbowl runs. I'm talking about 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012 and 2013 :lol


There's no perfect singular stat to use, QB rating is just the one that at least attempts to factor everything in

:lol trying to distract with a red herring about QB rating because you have no defense for Peyton's only two superbowl runs being a total abortion

I know it was a troll comment, but at least don't step over yourself. :lol

[Will Hunting]

-2nd all time in playoffs yds.
-2nd in completations.
-4th in TD's.
-5th in playoffs wins.
-10th in SB's rings.
-18th in passer rating.
-20th on yds per game.

NFL must have a pretty strong standard if that's considered a shit sandwich playoffs career, tbh.
If you think he’s the best QB of all time then yes, stats like 18th in passer rating and 20th in yards per game are ripe, steamy shit sandwiches.

[Will Hunting]

I know it was a troll comment, but at least don't step over yourself. :lol
Yeah the joke went over your head I can see.

[DAF86]

Yeah the joke went over your head I can see.

It wasn't really a difficult joke to get, tbh. :lol I just think these trolling/joking comments would work better if one doesn't completely shit over what was previously said, tbh. :lol

[Will Hunting]

It wasn't really a difficult joke to get, tbh. :lol I just think these trolling/joking comments would work better if one doesn't completely shit over what was previously said, tbh. :lol
Do you actually think I’m trolling and not being serious when I claim Brady > Manning?

[Millennial_Messiah]

First time in 10 years the Patriots don't have a first round bye.

[DAF86]

Do you actually think I’m trolling and not being serious when I claim Brady > Manning?

No, I think you are trolling when you say "you have no defense for Peyton's only two superbowl runs being a total abortion" and then say "I'm not talking about his superbowl runs".

[Millennial_Messiah]

Brady: 6
Mannings: 4

boiled down

[Will Hunting]

No, I think you are trolling when you say "you have no defense for Peyton's only two superbowl runs being a total abortion" and then say "I'm not talking about his superbowl runs".
Now I see what you’re saying.

I misread the post of mine you were quoting, my bad.

[Clipper Nation]

-2nd all time in playoffs yds.
-2nd in completations.
-4th in TD's.
-5th in playoffs wins.
-10th in SB's rings.
-18th in passer rating.
-20th on yds per game.

NFL must have a pretty strong standard if that's considered a shit sandwich playoffs career, tbh.
You forgot:

-1st in one-and-dones

[Will Hunting]

You forgot:

-1st in one-and-dones
Id actually be surprised if anyone has made the playoffs as a top 2 seed only to lose the divisional round game after his bye week more times than Manning has (1999, 2005, 2007, 2012, 2014). That’s FIVE fucking times he was on a team that made the playoffs as a top 2 seed and couldn’t even reach the conference championship :lmao

but muh circumstances!

[AlexJones]

Dak Prescott is so fucking good.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Saquon Barkley is something else

[Spurtacular]

Eagles should've kept Foles. Wentz is fool's gold.

[Will Hunting]

Eagles should've kept Foles. Wentz is fool's gold.
I’m not being totally serious since there’s no way this would have happened, but keeping Reich and letting Peterson leave would have been their best move. It’s pretty clear he was the QB genie on that coaching staff given how shitty Peterson and DeFilippo have been without him.

[Will Hunting]

:lol no mere human was going to stop Cox from getting the ball on that play

[Clipper Nation]

Cowboys are looking so dominant, Jerruh will probably keep The Clapper even without playoffs :wow

[Millennial_Messiah]

I’m not being totally serious since there’s no way this would have happened, but keeping Reich and letting Peterson leave would have been their best move. It’s pretty clear he was the QB genie on that coaching staff given how shitty Peterson and DeFilippo have been without him.

Are you kidding me? Pederson has been among the best coaches in the league this year considering their absurdly ridiculous injury situation.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't think there's a team this year who's been even half as snakebitten by injuries as the Eagles, and yet they come up with a winning season and are soaring into the playoffs with a 4 game winning streak. Big Balls Doug is one of the best coaches in the league.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Jacoby Brissett fumblefagging AGAIN

Remember when faggots thought he was better than Luck?

[Will Hunting]

Are you kidding me? Pederson has been among the best coaches in the league this year considering their absurdly ridiculous injury situation.
They’re a better team than 9-7 even with their injuries. QB play is the biggest reason their record isn’t better and they haven’t had consistent QB play since Reich left.

[Arcadian]

No team with Devlin Hodges as its QB should ever be in the playoffs.

[Mark Celibate]

:lol The Bot riding off into the sunset with one last 8-8 season

[Ghazi]

Niners staaaaaaaaaaaaacked

But it's 3 road games if we lose tonight. then we might be fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

[Ghazi]

:lol Jacoby Brissett fumblefagging AGAIN

Remember when faggots thought he was better than Luck?

lol thinking Rodgers is still a top 5 QB

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol The Bot riding off into the sunset with one last 8-8 season

Sunset? he's getting an 8 year extension bro.

[Millennial_Messiah]

They’re a better team than 9-7 even with their injuries. QB play is the biggest reason their record isn’t better and they haven’t had consistent QB play since Reich left.

not this year... have you seen their goddamn WRs? it's ridiculous

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Quack misses the all time single-season Cowboys passing yards record (Staubach I think) by 1 yard.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Niners staaaaaaaaaaaaacked

But it's 3 road games if we lose tonight. then we might be fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

Marshawn Lynch.

Aren't you a Vikings fan?

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Carr
:lmao Raiders

[Robz4000]

Let's go

[Millennial_Messiah]

As sorry as the AFC East has been over the years, the Patriots haven't gone 6-0 against that division since their perfect season of 2007. :lol

[phxspurfan]

Play #1, SeattleRef already gives Seattle a free first down

[Millennial_Messiah]

Based on the crowd I would think this game was being played in California.

[GAustex]

I am so conflicted to be rooting for seacocks

[Robz4000]

:lmao Crappolo

[GAustex]

Lynch gonna run two or three plays and start coughing up all them bong hits

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seattle is much better off losing, tbh.

[Robz4000]

Searefs will find a way.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Searefs will find a way.

maybe against the injury plagued eagles, but not tonight

tonight is about 49er glory

[AlexJones]

Get this fraud ass Seattle team off my TV.

[Millennial_Messiah]

how did this God tier team lose to shitlanta, tbh?

Bring back Kaepernick to be QB for god's sake.

[Robz4000]

He stepped out

[phxspurfan]

'sco playing smart as hell rn

[Millennial_Messiah]

This team would be better than the Ravens with Kaep at QB instead of Dago Wop, tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

He stepped out
nope

unless it was at lambeau

[Robz4000]

This team would be better than the Ravens with Kaep at QB instead of Dago Wop, tbh

:lmao no

[phxspurfan]

more Russy slurping by the announcers

[Robz4000]

Buckner!

[Millennial_Messiah]

idk why the 49ers didn't call timeout and go for it on that 4th & short instead of kicking a chip shot FG

[Robz4000]

Needed the TD there. Wilson will chuck something downfield, get a PI call, and score a TD here.

[Millennial_Messiah]

it's 49 degrees outside here in SA

that tells me it's the 49ers night

[DAF86]

lol Lynch looked awful there.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao :lmao :lmao


Should have called the slant to Ricardo Lockette, tbh.

[Robz4000]

Six years too late with that tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Six years too late with that tbh.

no

you mean 4 years, 10 months and 28 days

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't think I've ever seen a better 4th & 1 / short yardage defense over the course of a regular season than the 2019 49ers.

[phxspurfan]

Cheat Carroll trying to get another freebie with this timeout

[Robz4000]

That's a fumble :pctoss:

[phxspurfan]

SeattleRef per par.

[phxspurfan]

lol wut. Seattle gifted a random timeout on an un challengeable play they just challenged by calling a timeout. ?

[Robz4000]

lol wut. Seattle gifted a random timeout on an un challengeable play they just challenged by calling a timeout. ?

Searefs at their finest

[Millennial_Messiah]

The best team in the NFC is besting tonight tbh.

SF/KC or SF/BAL? which would be the best SB

[Millennial_Messiah]

so next year the Seahawks bring back Richard Sherman and he gets torched in coverage?

[GAustex]

The best team in the NFC is besting tonight tbh.

SF/KC or SF/BAL? which would be the best SB
GB v whoever

[Robz4000]

Difference in the game is gonna be that the Niners couldn't get that second TD.

[Robz4000]

Niners won't even have the lead at the end of the third quarter tbh.

[phxspurfan]

Lynch looking good after such a long break/retirement

[DAF86]

Regardless of the penalty, that was a beatiful throw by Wilson.

[Robz4000]

Niners season ends in Philly next week tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

juschick is the ultimate hybrid swiss army knife guy. Taysom Hill is a gimmick, this guy is for real

[Millennial_Messiah]

Niners season ends in Philly next week tbh.

you mean Seahawks?

Niners season ends in Miami this year tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

GB v whoever

GB vs NE

battle of the washed up quahterbacks

[Robz4000]

:lmao he was in

[Robz4000]

you mean Seahawks?

Niners season ends in Miami this year tbh

I've just about lost all confidence in this defense. They have a lot of talent but fold when it matters most. The team goes as far as Kittle can carry them.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I've just about lost all confidence in this defense. They have a lot of talent but fold when it matters most. The team goes as far as Kittle can carry them.

aside from Baltimore, which defense is better than SF tbh? i can't think of any. maybe the eagles.

[Millennial_Messiah]

ooooooooooooh

it's 19 to 7

hmmmmmmmmm

........

is it too late for the 49ers to sign Brandon Bostick and/or Andrew Quarless?

[Robz4000]

aside from Baltimore, which defense is better than SF tbh? i can't think of any. maybe the eagles.

Statistically they're elite, but I've seen them fall apart every game the past month.

[DAF86]

aside from Baltimore, which defense is better than SF tbh? i can't think of any. maybe the eagles.

Patriots.

[Robz4000]

Niners' third down defense is nonexistent.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Patriots.

:lmao maybe up until November 1st when they were playing the bottom of the league

but let's face it, they've been average at very best if you throw out September / October.

who lets Fitzmagic jizz all over your building in late December?

[Robz4000]

Pick 6 coming on this next drive to complete the choke.

[Millennial_Messiah]

welp, Marshawn scored

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pick 6 coming on this next drive to complete the choke.

nah

another clutch 49ers drive

[Clipper Nation]

Beast Mode carrying Struggle. Some things never change.

[GAustex]

come on seacucks

[Will Hunting]

Patriots.
You’d really take New England’s defense over San Fran’s right now?

[Millennial_Messiah]

see Robz

nothing to worry about

Best offense in the league after the Cowboys tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

You’d really take New England’s defense over San Fran’s right now?
not since October.

if you throw out SEP/OCT, N.E. isn't a playoff team.

[DAF86]

Seahawks' defense performance has been pathetic, tbh.

[Ghazi]

We staaaaaaacked (Niners)

[GAustex]

how is the second round match ups line up.
SF top seed-who do they get?
Is it the winner of round one with the worst record?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seahawks' defense performance has been pathetic, tbh.

the defense is poorly coached. They let too many defensive coaches get away. They will need to find someone new/old, but the Falcons keeping Quinn really hurt them. Maybe the Cowboys don't bring back Richard?

[Robz4000]

Not worried about the offense outside Crappolo fucking up, but the D will give up another TD here in about 30 seconds.

[Millennial_Messiah]

how is the second round match ups line up.
SF top seed-who do they get?
Is it the winner of round one with the worst record?

not worst record, worst SEED. So the Eagles are considered above the #5 and the Vikings even with a worse record.

SF top seed gets the lowest seeded winner in the wild card round.
Packers get either the Saints or the highest seeded winner if the Saints lose.

[Clipper Nation]

Seahawks' defense performance has been pathetic, tbh.

Tough to afford a good defense when you're paying a game manager like he's Brees.

[Millennial_Messiah]

We staaaaaaacked (Niners)
change your theme skin to 49ers, tbh

[GAustex]

thanks

[Robz4000]

:lmao Searefs to the rescue

[GAustex]

no way SF can choke this away?

[Ghazi]

Wilsons taking a dump on ClipperNation this 2nd half

[Clipper Nation]

Team Leader Metcalf carrying Struggle per par.

[phxspurfan]

more Seattle Ref

[GAustex]

refs making it interesting

[Robz4000]

:lmao Searefs again

[phxspurfan]

Seattle illegally pumping noise into the stadium speakers again

[DAF86]

Seahawks' defense almost manages to fuck up a 3rd and 17. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The league can't even hide their desperation to make Struggle the face of the NFL once Brady retires. The officiating the Searefs get every week is egregious.

[phxspurfan]

perfect position for some more ref calls

[Millennial_Messiah]

Russell Wilson's career definining moment.
Clipper Nation spurraider21


GET IN HERE

[GAustex]

this looks doable for struggle

[Pelicans78]

Saintsref coming thru on that personal foul.

[Robz4000]

Welp, offense choked after all.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know how Seattle keeps getting so lucky in these 1-score games:lol

[phxspurfan]

Even if 9ers have to play in the first round, they're gonna shit stomp the Eagles in Philly

[GAustex]

no way SF can choke this away?