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goliath
11-03-2005, 12:09 AM
http://www.wwltv.com/sports/saints/stories/WWL110205benson.2162b664.html


Saints Owner Tom Benson says he won’t attend any more Saints games in Baton Rouge after he claims he feared for his life in some terrifying encounters with fans after the game.


Mike Bland / WWL-TV

Saints owner Tom Benson lunges at the Channel 4 camera, knocking it down and causing a microphone to fall off the equipment. Benson also got into a verbal argument with a fan.

In an e-mail that league sources say Benson sent to the NFL Commissioner and other high-ranking officials, he complained about a lack of security and a confrontation with obscenity-hurling fans.

“My trip to Baton Rouge was a total disaster…” he wrote. “We were attacked by hecklers who shouted at me and my party and put my wife and family in danger.”

Benson also claims that several cameras were impeding his departure from the stadium.

“If it had not been for my grandson and his friend, we could have been killed,” said the e-mail.

The e-mail apparently referenced the situation captured by WWL-TV cameras that showed the owner lunging at, grabbing and forcing down an Eyewitness News camera. Benson then engaged at least one fan in a vulgar confrontation, while his grandson blocked the camera from filming the episode.

Eyewitness News’ Lee Zurik said his cameraman was positioned between seven and ten feet from Benson and was not in the way of the route Mr. Benson and his party were taking to leave.

As for security, LSU athletic officials told Eyewitness News that the NFL and Saints informed them that there was no need to provide extra security because Mr. Benson had his own.

Accompanying Benson on Sunday after the game, were at least three members of his security team including: the chief detective of the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Department, Fred Williams, former Deputy Chief of the New Orleans Police Department Gerry Ursin, plus one current Jefferson Parish Sheriff's deputy.

No one from the Saints responded to requests for comments on the e-mail.

goliath
11-03-2005, 12:11 AM
http://www.wwltv.com/sports/saints/stories/WWL110305zurik.21541f13.html

Full text of Benson note to the NFL

10:01 PM CST on Wednesday, November 2, 2005

(Editor's note: The following is a letter that NFL sources say Saints Owner Tom Benson sent to the league. It was dictated to Eyewitness Sports' Lee Zurik)

Paul, Roger, Jeff,

My trip to Baton Rouge was a total disaster. As my wife and the rest of my party left the suite, well before the end of the game, we were attacked by a number of hecklers who shouted obscentities at me and my party and put my wife and family in danger. Security was inadequate and nonexistent and we were led out through a hostile crowd on a very long route. If it had not been for my grandson and his friend, we could have all been severely injured or killed. In addition, the media was forcing cameras in our faces and slowing down our escape from a very dangerous situation and experience. We finally escaped without serious injury, but only due to luck and the intervention of my grandson and his friend. Secruity had completely abandoned us.

After this traumatic experience, I will not return to Baton Rouge for any reason, including any games scheduled for the end of this season or a contemplated next season. No person, much less the owner of an NFL team, should have either he, his family, or his friends subjected to this form of danger, intimidation, and abuse. We will not be back in Baton Rouge for any reason. I was advised not to go, but wanted to support the league. It was my mistake. I wanted each of you to know of this miserable experience and disappointment to me after i had tried to cooperate in every way.

Sincerely,
Tom Benson

gameFACE
11-03-2005, 12:16 AM
Man, this is getting good.................

j-6
11-03-2005, 12:44 AM
What is this, one part truth and two parts bullshit? I guess the JP head detective, the former NOPD deputy chief and the active duty JP cop he had with him didn't attend the same Rex Kwon Do dojo that his grandson went to, since they "completely abandoned" him.

I guess that's fine if Benson is looking for more crutches to lean on in his attempted escape from Louisiana, but this is ridiculous. He shoved the cameraman, not the other way around. All of the heckling he recieved is from his poor decision to not sack up and address the fans in a timely fashion, and he yelled back. And as far as the security goes, it was his home game. Bitch at your own director of security and be thankful that Saints fans for the most part are too intoxicated to throw batteries like they used to do in Cleveland.

Tommy needs to stop this whole martyr routine and man up a little. He got caught playing footsie with SA's mayor and the folks in Louisiana don't appreciate it. Sending a tear-stained letter to the commish instead of addressing the media on the subject (or just plain paying for more security personnel) just shows what a coward Benson is.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 09:19 AM
Man, this is getting good.................

And these fans are calling Benson nuts???? What a bunch of uncivilized psychos. Yeah way to go idiots, what a way to keep your team, threaten the owner....I'm sure he can't wait to bring his team back there now....

Oh, Gee!!
11-03-2005, 10:33 AM
Benson was arguably the worst owner in the NFL pre-Katrina

tgrgrd00
11-03-2005, 10:39 AM
And these fans are calling Benson nuts???? What a bunch of uncivilized psychos. Yeah way to go idiots, what a way to keep your team, threaten the owner....I'm sure he can't wait to bring his team back there now....

Oh yea...It's ok for Benson to threaten the people of LA but when a fan heckles him they are "uncivilized psychos".

This man is insane...He feared for his life? C'mon...give me a break. The camera man was in his way? Bullshit, watch the video again. He clearly goes out of his way to push that camera. As a matter of fact I think he pushed one of the cops out of his way to get to it. If he is so scared why isn't he hiding behind the cop instead of pushing him out of the way so he can get to the camera man and fan?

There he is caught in yet another lie and people still defend this guy.

Incredible.

Oh, Gee!!
11-03-2005, 10:42 AM
He charges too much for cars

SA210
11-03-2005, 10:45 AM
I think Benson used this situation to his advantage to escape Louisiana. So, it's between SA and LA.
I'm sure Tags is still gonna release another statement about the commitment to Lousianna and possibly going to LA on purpose to show that he hates SA.

PeterBurns
11-03-2005, 10:47 AM
Woooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Oh, Gee!!
11-03-2005, 10:49 AM
I think Benson used this situation to his advantage to escape Louisiana. So, it's between SA and LA.
I'm sure Tags is still gonna release another statement about the commitment to Lousianna and possibly going to LA on purpose to show that he hates SA.


do we even want the crappy 'Aints and their crappy owner. I'm beginning to think that I'd rather watch the Cowboys for free on FOX-NFL than pay $60 to see a shitty team in person. :pctoss

samikeyp
11-03-2005, 11:10 AM
I would be afraid too if I was threatening to move a city's NFL team.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 04:11 PM
Oh yea...It's ok for Benson to threaten the people of LA but when a fan heckles him they are "uncivilized psychos".

This man is insane...He feared for his life? C'mon...give me a break. The camera man was in his way? Bullshit, watch the video again. He clearly goes out of his way to push that camera. As a matter of fact I think he pushed one of the cops out of his way to get to it. If he is so scared why isn't he hiding behind the cop instead of pushing him out of the way so he can get to the camera man and fan?

There he is caught in yet another lie and people still defend this guy.

Incredible.
And the camera man was not even supposed to be there...It was a secure area...The camera man deserved to be thrown out....You ppl i believe are the liars....They were trying their best to egg him on to start trouble...He didn't start it, they were there....

cherylsteele
11-03-2005, 04:50 PM
Benson was arguably the worst owner in the NFL pre-Katrina

Unlike the Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell?

tgrgrd00
11-03-2005, 05:49 PM
And the camera man was not even supposed to be there...It was a secure area...The camera man deserved to be thrown out....You ppl i believe are the liars....They were trying their best to egg him on to start trouble...He didn't start it, they were there....

BULLSHIT...I LOVE HOW YOU JUST MAKE SHIT UP.

I know exactly where Mr. Benson and the camera man were when this happened. They were next to the elevators underneath the upper deck extension. Benson was coming down from his suite and was leaving the stadium after getting off of the elavator on the ground floor. There are gates for ticket holders right next to where this happend...how in the hell do you make a public ticket taking area secure? Do you think all of these people just broke through a fence or something to harrass Benson? Do you really think that WWL TV who is the most watched and accredited news station in Louisiana would violate a secure area with a camera and then broadcast the incident to the country?????

You are so full of shit you need to go sit on the toilet...because trust me it is about to start coming out.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 06:44 PM
BULLSHIT...I LOVE HOW YOU JUST MAKE SHIT UP.

I know exactly where Mr. Benson and the camera man were when this happened. They were next to the elevators underneath the upper deck extension. Benson was coming down from his suite and was leaving the stadium after getting off of the elavator on the ground floor. There are gates for ticket holders right next to where this happend...how in the hell do you make a public ticket taking area secure? Do you think all of these people just broke through a fence or something to harrass Benson? Do you really think that WWL TV who is the most watched and accredited news station in Louisiana would violate a secure area with a camera and then broadcast the incident to the country?????

You are so full of shit you need to go sit on the toilet...because trust me it is about to start coming out.

Oh really i'm making this up....

NFL: No action against Benson expected
10/31/2005, 1:24 p.m. ET
The Associated Press
http://www.cleveland.com/sportsflas...torylist=sports

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — An NFL spokesman said Monday that the league would not likely take action against New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson, who a day earlier lunged at a television news crew, grabbing a camera and wrenching it downward.

"It appears to be nothing more than a brief, heated exchange with a member of the media that was caught on camera," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "It's not the first time in the world of sports entertainment that something like this has occurred. It was a tough day for the Saints and their fans."

WWL-TV, a CBS affiliate in New Orleans, was videotaping Benson leaving the Saints game in Baton Rouge on Sunday after a 21-6 loss to Miami. Chris Slaughter, the station's assistant news director, said his gameday crews routinely tape Benson departing the stadium after games, win or lose.

The station has shown Benson numerous times doing his "Benson Boogie" on the field with an umbrella after games. But after Sunday's loss to the Dolphins, Benson charged the cameraman with a raised hand before being eased away by his security entourage.

"We were taking video like we've done many times of Mr. Benson leaving the game," Slaughter said. "It was run-of-the-mill taping to that point."

The video also appeared to show Benson responding angrily to a heckling fan.

The Saints referred all comments to Aiello, who said that if the TV station wanted to file a complaint they could send him a letter and a copy of the video. However, he also pointed out that WWL was taping in "what was supposed to be a secure, private area."

Slaughter said WWL was still considering its options on Monday.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 06:45 PM
BULLSHIT...I LOVE HOW YOU JUST MAKE SHIT UP.

I know exactly where Mr. Benson and the camera man were when this happened. They were next to the elevators underneath the upper deck extension. Benson was coming down from his suite and was leaving the stadium after getting off of the elavator on the ground floor. There are gates for ticket holders right next to where this happend...how in the hell do you make a public ticket taking area secure? Do you think all of these people just broke through a fence or something to harrass Benson? Do you really think that WWL TV who is the most watched and accredited news station in Louisiana would violate a secure area with a camera and then broadcast the incident to the country?????

You are so full of shit you need to go sit on the toilet...because trust me it is about to start coming out.

Maybe you need to go into time out with your little friend Loose Cannon.
:nope :nope

TheWriter
11-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Oh snap, Shiner Bock Girl justed burned the shit out of tgrturd.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 06:55 PM
Oh snap, Shiner Bock Girl justed burned the shit out of tgrturd.

I was wondering when help would arrive..LOL....

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 06:59 PM
http://www.cafepress.com/frankopinions.33259038

AWWW that is too kool...LOL...Thanks for the link....

hicksi
11-03-2005, 07:14 PM
...was taping in "what was supposed to be a secure, private area."[/B]

Slaughter said WWL was still considering its options on Monday.
Then what were all the fans doing in that area?

hicksi
11-03-2005, 07:16 PM
http://www.cafepress.com/frankopinions.33259038
We're Sorry, You've Encountered an Error!

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 07:54 PM
Then what were all the fans doing in that area?

The fans taunting him were befroe the game, during and after before he went into the suppossedely secure area where A fan and camera man started egging him on..

exstatic
11-03-2005, 08:01 PM
Then what were all the fans doing in that area?

I think that was one of Benson's questions, too.

tgrgrd00
11-03-2005, 08:28 PM
Oh really i'm making this up....

NFL: No action against Benson expected
10/31/2005, 1:24 p.m. ET
The Associated Press
http://www.cleveland.com/sportsflas...torylist=sports

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — An NFL spokesman said Monday that the league would not likely take action against New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson, who a day earlier lunged at a television news crew, grabbing a camera and wrenching it downward.

"It appears to be nothing more than a brief, heated exchange with a member of the media that was caught on camera," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "It's not the first time in the world of sports entertainment that something like this has occurred. It was a tough day for the Saints and their fans."

WWL-TV, a CBS affiliate in New Orleans, was videotaping Benson leaving the Saints game in Baton Rouge on Sunday after a 21-6 loss to Miami. Chris Slaughter, the station's assistant news director, said his gameday crews routinely tape Benson departing the stadium after games, win or lose.

The station has shown Benson numerous times doing his "Benson Boogie" on the field with an umbrella after games. But after Sunday's loss to the Dolphins, Benson charged the cameraman with a raised hand before being eased away by his security entourage.

"We were taking video like we've done many times of Mr. Benson leaving the game," Slaughter said. "It was run-of-the-mill taping to that point."

The video also appeared to show Benson responding angrily to a heckling fan.

The Saints referred all comments to Aiello, who said that if the TV station wanted to file a complaint they could send him a letter and a copy of the video. However, he also pointed out that WWL was taping in "what was supposed to be a secure, private area."



Slaughter said WWL was still considering its options on Monday.

I can't get your link to work.....

I think this Aiello guy is wrong or making up things as they go. There were people all around when this happened...I would like to know how he defines a "secure, private area." Private nor secure is this area. I know exactly where he was because my LSU season ticket entrance is about 50 feet from there. There are thousands of people that pass through this spot on any gameday. I don't know how how this could be considered private or secure.

Maybe "supposed to be secure" was what Benson thought it was going to be.

Hey if he was supposed to be in some bubble or something then I would understand but knowing the area like I do there is no way to make it private or secure.

tgrgrd00
11-03-2005, 08:34 PM
Maybe you need to go into time out with your little friend Loose Cannon.
:nope :nope

I don't know Loose Cannon.

Ok if there area was supposed to be private and secure like the NFL rep. says then it is Benson and/or the NFL's fault that it wasn't.

As for security, LSU athletic officials told Eyewitness News that the NFL and Saints informed them that there was no need to provide extra security because Mr. Benson had his own.

Benson has his own security.... (http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWL110205benson.2162b664.html)

There were people around when this happened and it is in a public area with no fencing or markers or tape or anything to distinguish a private area. I know I left out of a gate that is very near where this happened and I saw no private walkway signs or anything.

tgrgrd00
11-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Oh snap, Shiner Bock Girl justed burned the shit out of tgrturd.

Oh snap this was Shiner Bock Girls exact quote:


"It was a secure area"

This is the NFL guys exact quote:


"what was supposed to be a secure, private area."

Supposed to be and acutally BEING are two different things. Shiner Bock Girl accused WWL and the hecklers of being in a secure area...when in fact it was only supposed to be secure. This does not mean that it was secure..only supposed to be secure.

I don't see how exactly I got burned but ok.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Oh snap this was Shiner Bock Girls exact quote:



This is the NFL guys exact quote:



Supposed to be and acutally BEING are two different things. Shiner Bock Girl accused WWL and the hecklers of being in a secure area...when in fact it was only supposed to be secure. This does not mean that it was secure..only supposed to be secure.

I don't see how exactly I got burned but ok.

Amazing one moron can take ONE word and make it into what he wants it to be....If it makes you feel better to threaten Benson, tell him how much you don't want him back in NOLA, send your thugs camera men there to try and start a law suit, Bash ALL the ppl of SA who most have no clue about anything other then the Saints may need a new home, then more power to you dude.....Anything to bring your Saints back....Notice how Benson wasn't charged??? If they were in an allowed area, they would have had no problem filing suit...Notice they didn't??? And i'm sure it wasn't because of their kind kind nature....If you slug a camera man, you pay from what we seen of Rogers and laws protecting the media.......Maybe Benson was the one with the mercy...

hicksi
11-03-2005, 10:03 PM
http://www.cafepress.com/frankopinions.33259038


nice try.......but that link does work.
Who said there was a problem with the link?
:drunk

tgrgrd00
11-04-2005, 09:32 AM
Amazing one moron can take ONE word and make it into what he wants it to be...

Wait a minute...you are the one who took out the word supposedly. I didn't do anything but read exaclty what the quote said. You are the moron who interpreted it to suit your needs.


If it makes you feel better to threaten Benson, tell him how much you don't want him back in NOLA, send your thugs camera men there to try and start a law suit,

Oh yea that is what happened. WWL TV wanted to sue Benson that is why the camera man was there...you cracked the case. Good job inspector.


Bash ALL the ppl of SA who most have no clue about anything other then the Saints may need a new home, then more power to you dude

You called every person in N.O. LOSERS. But I am bashing every person in SA?




Anything to bring your Saints back....

We are trying to rebuild....the Saints are part of rebuilding.


Notice how Benson wasn't charged??? If they were in an allowed area, they would have had no problem filing suit...Notice they didn't??? And i'm sure it wasn't because of their kind kind nature....If you slug a camera man, you pay from what we seen of Rogers and laws protecting the media.......Maybe Benson was the one with the mercy...

Wait...I thought the only reason the thug camera man was there was because they wanted a lawsuit against Benson? Restriced area or not they could still file suit if they wanted to. We already established that the restricted area was hypothetical.

N.Y. Johnny
11-04-2005, 09:54 AM
Benson was arguably the worst owner in the NFL pre-Katrina



Not as long as Woody Johnson is alive and well in New York :elephant

Shiner Bock Girl
11-04-2005, 05:06 PM
Wait a minute...you are the one who took out the word supposedly. I didn't do anything but read exaclty what the quote said. You are the moron who interpreted it to suit your needs.



Oh yea that is what happened. WWL TV wanted to sue Benson that is why the camera man was there...you cracked the case. Good job inspector.



You called every person in N.O. LOSERS. But I am bashing every person in SA?





We are trying to rebuild....the Saints are part of rebuilding.



Wait...I thought the only reason the thug camera man was there was because they wanted a lawsuit against Benson? Restriced area or not they could still file suit if they wanted to. We already established that the restricted area was hypothetical.




Oh no, you were called losers after you all came here to insult the city of SA....And losers because being the cowards you are, saintsresport bans anyone with an SA address yet you are all still here and not banned even with your hate you write about towards our city...Yes, that definately fits your description....LOSER....Also in the audio part without even seeing what the camera man and fan that was there, you could hear that " what are you going to do about it, hit me" Yes, sounds like they were not there to welcome Benson thats for sure...

tgrgrd00
11-04-2005, 05:30 PM
Oh no, you were called losers after you all came here to insult the city of SA....And losers because being the cowards you are, saintsresport bans anyone with an SA address yet you are all still here and not banned even with your hate you write about towards our city...Yes, that definately fits your description....LOSER....Also in the audio part without even seeing what the camera man and fan that was there, you could hear that " what are you going to do about it, hit me" Yes, sounds like they were not there to welcome Benson thats for sure...

I have mentioned many times that I am not a member of saintsreport.com. You keep assuming that I am but I am not. I don't care who gets banned from where for what reason.

So you are basing your opinion on just the audio? Have you actually seen what happened? There is an old saying "seeing is believing". If you watch the video you will see that Benson clearly was the instigator of this activity starting with the shoving of the camera which was clearly not in his way. Oh but I guess you heard this part and were able to come to your conclusion with the audio sound bites.

I am a coward and a loser now?...very interesting. For someone who is so concerned about being insulted you sure do like to throw them around a lot.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-04-2005, 05:40 PM
I have mentioned many times that I am not a member of saintsreport.com. You keep assuming that I am but I am not. I don't care who gets banned from where for what reason.

So you are basing your opinion on just the audio? Have you actually seen what happened? There is an old saying "seeing is believing". If you watch the video you will see that Benson clearly was the instigator of this activity starting with the shoving of the camera which was clearly not in his way. Oh but I guess you heard this part and were able to come to your conclusion with the audio sound bites.

I am a coward and a loser now?...very interesting. For someone who is so concerned about being insulted you sure do like to throw them around a lot.
Yes i seen the video and it was clear Benson did not want to be on camera and asked them to take the camera off him, and they didn't....that says alot....

j-6
11-04-2005, 06:14 PM
I am a coward and a loser now?...very interesting. For someone who is so concerned about being insulted you sure do like to throw them around a lot.

I'd hate for you to think that all of us around here scream and call names like the Shiner Bock Girl. Most of us here are actually pretty level headed. We had some great threads on the Saints threatened relocation and all the ensuing drama - I just think most of the participants in them just got tired of people either declaring that others were (1) not supporting San Antonio or (2) not respecting New Orleans.

That, and basketball season finally started.

tgrgrd00
11-04-2005, 06:20 PM
I'd hate for you to think that all of us around here scream and call names like the Shiner Bock Girl. Most of us here are actually pretty level headed. We had some great threads on the Saints threatened relocation and all the ensuing drama - I just think most of the participants in them just got tired of people either declaring that others were (1) not supporting San Antonio or (2) not respecting New Orleans.

That, and basketball season finally started.

It's all good j-6. Some people communicate differently than others. There has been some very good discussion...I would have to agree about numbers 1 and 2 also.

Shiner Bock Girl
11-04-2005, 06:36 PM
I'd hate for you to think that all of us around here scream and call names like the Shiner Bock Girl. Most of us here are actually pretty level headed. We had some great threads on the Saints threatened relocation and all the ensuing drama - I just think most of the participants in them just got tired of people either declaring that others were (1) not supporting San Antonio or (2) not respecting New Orleans.

That, and basketball season finally started.

Oh really??? I can remember MANY names being thrown at us on here MUCH more harsh. Since we are not allowed to voice our opinions on their board and they are allowed on here, then be prepared to be critized. Otherwise, if it offends them sooo much, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. We're not twisting their arms to stay here. But at the same time, i'm not backing down on defending my city just as they are not going to stop defending theirs. That is why this is a message board, we don't all have to agree on everything. But according to you, we're supposed to just be in agreement with everything they said so we can be what you call "classy citizens of San Antonio." Just isn't going to happen. So please apologize for yourself, not the rest of us. I think each and every person can speak for themselves. Enough on this subject, iam now focusing my time on THE SPURS. Whatever happens with the Saints is going to happen regardless of the name calling, back stabbing, outbursts. Right now they chose to come here bashing our city looking for arguments. Take up for them all you want, but don't speak for the rest of us. THE END