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Trill Clinton
01-07-2020, 10:56 AM
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Deceased GOP Strategist's Daughter Makes Files Public That Republicans Wanted Sealed
Hansi Lo Wang (https://www.npr.org/people/177498291/hansi-lo-wang)January 5, 20201:51 PM ET
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Stephanie Hofeller stands with her father, Thomas, for a family photo in California during the 1970s. Republicans fought to stop computer files found on the redistricting expert's hard drives from going public — now Stephanie is sharing them online.

Courtesy of Stephanie Hofeller
More than a year after his death, a cache of computer files saved on the hard drives of Thomas Hofeller, a prominent Republican redistricting strategist, is becoming public.

Republican state lawmakers in North Carolina fought in court to keep copies of these maps, spreadsheets and other documents from entering the public record. But some files have already come to light in recent months through court filings and news reports.

They have been cited as evidence of gerrymandering that got political maps thrown out in North Carolina, and they have raised questions about Hofeller's role in the Trump administration's failed push for a census citizenship question.

Now more of the files are available online through a website called The Hofeller Files, (https://thehofellerfiles.com/) where Hofeller's daughter, Stephanie Hofeller, published a link to her copy of the files on Sunday after first announcing her plans in a tweet last month (https://twitter.com/SHofeller/status/1202938238681407488?s=20).

"These are matters that concern the people and their franchise and their access to resources. This is, therefore, the property of the people," Hofeller told NPR. "I won't be satisfied that we the people have found everything until we the people have had a look at it in its entirety."

"A hunch that maybe something was wrong"

Her decision to put the files online herself is just the latest twist in a series of one astonishing event after another.

It had been more than four years since Stephanie had spoken to her father after a family dispute involving the custody of her children (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-father-a-daughter-and-the-attempt-to-change-the-census) landed in court. But on the last day of September in 2018, she "had a hunch that maybe something was wrong," according to her testimony for a lawsuit deposition (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6570547-May-17-2019-Deposition-of-Stephanie-Hofeller.html#document/p19/a538965).


After his death in 2018, Thomas Hofeller's daughter found hard drives filled with the GOP redistricting strategist's files. Among them was a study in which he concluded that adding a citizenship question to census forms would be "advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites."

C-SPAN via AP
Sitting in her car parked outside a convenience store in Kentucky, she used her phone to search online for her father's name and found an obituary (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/obituaries/thomas-hofeller-republican-master-of-political-maps-dies-at-75.html) for Thomas Hofeller, confirming that he had died at the age of 75 more than a month earlier in August.

Stephanie then reconnected with her mother, Kathleen, and visited her parents' apartment in North Carolina, where she found four external hard drives and a clear plastic bag containing 18 USB thumb drives in her father's room. Stephanie says her mother encouraged her to take the devices.

A treasure trove that led to bombshells

It turned out they were filled with photos of Stephanie with her children and other personal items — as well as files from her father's work as a redistricting consultant for Republicans.

While looking for an attorney to represent her mother in 2018, Stephanie says she connected with the North Carolina chapter of Common Cause, an advocacy group that had brought a lawsuit against Republican state officials to overturn political maps Thomas Hofeller helped draw. After mentioning the hard drives to Common Cause, Stephanie received a court order to turn them over as potential evidence for the lawsuit. She did so in March after making a copy of some of the files for herself.

Since then, the Hofeller files have led to bombshell developments in two major legal battles in the political world.

In September, Common Cause won its legal challenge to political maps in North Carolina, where a state court cited some of the files as evidence of gerrymandering designed to unfairly give Republicans an advantage in winning elections and maintaining control of the state legislature.

"The Court finds that in many election environments, it is the carefully crafted maps, and not the will of the voters, that dictate the election outcomes in a significant number of legislative districts and, ultimately, the majority control of the General Assembly," a three-judge panel of the Wake County Superior Court wrote in their ruling (https://www.nccourts.gov/assets/inline-files/18-CVS-14001_Final-Judgment.pdf?Bwsegeo1VV20zhJsp9hoClvmoRp3A6AR).

Other files have become intertwined in the federal lawsuits over the Trump administration's push to add the now-blocked citizenship question (https://www.npr.org/2019/05/30/728232221/gop-redistricting-strategist-played-role-in-push-for-census-citizenship-question) to the 2020 census, raising questions about Thomas Hofeller's role and the administration's true motives.

Lawyers with the law firm Arnold & Porter — which represented both Common Cause and some of the citizenship question's challengers — uncovered an unpublished study (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6077735-May-30-2019-Exhibit.html#document/p55/a504021) in which Thomas Hofeller concluded using responses from such a question would be "advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6077735-May-30-2019-Exhibit.html#document/p63/a504019)" when voting districts are redrawn. The revelation came weeks before the U.S. Supreme Court issued its ruling in June, affirming a lower court's decision against the question, which has been permanently blocked from forms for the upcoming national head count.

Saving "trade secrets" from being "destroyed"

Stephanie says she decided to turn the hard drives over for the North Carolina lawsuit in March and to upload her copy of the files online this week in part to preserve a historical record about her father.

"His work is really having a profound effect and has had long before anybody really noticed on a broader level," Stephanie says. "I think from the historical standpoint, this slice of life, this little snapshot is going to prove very valuable."

Attorneys for Thomas Hofeller's former company, Geographic Strategies, have been trying to keep sealed copies of certain files that were turned over for the North Carolina case, citing them as "trade secrets," and other proprietary information about the company's work. While that dispute has played out in a state court in recent months, news organizations including The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-files-of-the-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering), The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/republican-gerrymander-thomas-hofeller.html) and The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/2019/09/23/gerrymandering-gop-west-virginia-florida-alabama/) have published reports based on copies they obtained of Hofeller's files.

"I originally started sharing them with journalists as a direct response to the assertion by the legislative defendants through counsel that they should be destroyed," Stephanie tells NPR, which previously received a copy of the files from her.

The files document the wide reach of Thomas Hofeller's work on political maps across the country — including in Arizona, Florida, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee and Virginia, as well as New York's Nassau County and Texas' Galveston and Nueces counties.

In a Microsoft Word document last saved in 2015, Thomas Hofeller warned against changing the Census Bureau's policy of including prisoners in the population counts of the areas where they're incarcerated (https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2019/12/31/761932806/your-body-being-used-where-prisoners-who-can-t-vote-fill-voting-districts), expressing concern that "the actual effect on reapportionment and redistricting is not clearly known for individual states."

Another ironic twist

As a longtime strategist for the Republican National Committee, Thomas Hofeller was known for his warnings to keep redistricting work under wraps.

"Treat every statement and document as if it was going to appear on the FRONT PAGE of your local newspaper," one of his slides for a 2011 training session (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6126246-January-24-2011-Thomas-Hofeller-Slide-Deck-What.html) for redistricting officials says. "Emails are the tool of the devil."

Stephanie says the irony that some of his work files are now out in public is not lost on her.

"I don't think he cared all that much to protect these people after he was gone," she adds.

While he was alive, politics governed family life for the Hofellers, Stephanie says. Growing up, she remembers her father correcting how she and others would pronounce gerrymandering with a soft G sound.

Her father preferred the hard G (as in Gary) in honor of the term's namesake — former U.S. Vice President Elbridge Gerry, who as governor of Massachusetts in 1812 signed into law a political map with a salamander-shaped district that gave the Democratic-Republican party an advantage over the Federalists.

Stephanie says her father's stated goal was to use gerrymandering to "create a system wherein the Republican nominee would win."

"State legislature, it doesn't matter who votes for what. Congress, it doesn't matter who votes for what. And president, it doesn't matter," she says.

Contrary to some people's assumptions given her role in revealing her father's work to perpetuate Republican power, Stephanie says she does not identify as a Democrat, although she has voted for Democratic candidates in the past.

"The reason I don't identify as a Democrat is because I'm an anarchist," she says. "I don't believe that we're going to really find solutions to the deeper problems of inequality in a system that demands a hierarchy, which is, by definition, unequal."

"All the good stuff"

During her deposition in May, she testified there may be more files from her father's work to uncover. Before Stephanie arrived at her parents' apartment, her father's business partner, Dale Oldham, had removed a laptop and a desktop computer with Hofeller's work files, Stephanie said her mother told her.

"Dale got all the good stuff," Stephanie told attorneys.

Oldham has not responded to NPR's requests for comment.

As part of proceedings for the North Carolina case, Oldham has argued in court filings (https://www.nccourts.gov/assets/inline-files/190615%20-%20Geographic%20Strategies%20Motions%20and%20Affid avit.pdf?F0gD_v9ckDkry14VhADOfFYcOkcp5rEJ) that when Thomas Hofeller died, "Geographic Strategies' computer, various files, and numerous backups in Dr. Hofeller's possession" belonged to the company — of whom Oldham is the sole surviving member — and its clients.

In November, one of those clients, the Republican National Committee, paid Oldham more than $420,000 (https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00003418/1367597/sb/29) for "legal and compliance services" — part of a total of more than $658,000 Oldham has collected from the RNC since May, according to Federal Election Commission filings (https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00003418/?tab=filings).

Common Cause's attorneys have been unable to get Oldham to share any additional documents. But as part of sanctions proceedings related to the citizenship question lawsuits in New York, plaintiffs' attorneys have asked U.S. District Judge Jesse Furman (https://twitter.com/hansilowang/status/1136077618011414529?s=20) to allow them to subpoena Oldham, who in 2017 consulted through Hofeller with a then-adviser to the Trump administration on the question, according to an email obtained by the House Oversight and Reform Committee (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/12/778496494/emails-connect-trump-officials-and-gop-redistricting-expert-on-citizenship-quest).

For her part, Stephanie says she's committed to transparency with the public in case she gets access to any more of her father's files.

"If I were to find something," she says, "I would most certainly share it."

Spurs Homer
01-07-2020, 11:08 AM
Sounds like every trump cultist who posts here ^

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 11:14 AM
He should have used a condom.

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:02 PM
He should have used a condom.Better that someone should never haved lived than to expose GOP shenanigans and the real intent behind them.

DMC
01-07-2020, 12:04 PM
tl;dr

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:06 PM
tl;dr version

Hofeller masterminded a racial gerrymander in NC.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 12:14 PM
Better that someone should never haved lived than to expose GOP shenanigans and the real intent behind them.

The real problem with him is he allowed his own birth daughter to become poisoned and brainwashed by the disgusting pinko education system.

FrostKing
01-07-2020, 12:20 PM
The real problem with him is he allowed his own birth daughter to become poisoned and brainwashed by the disgusting pinko education system.
Skimming the article it seems for whatever reasons she grew up without parents in her adult life. Typical liberal - busted family

FrostKing
01-07-2020, 12:22 PM
Hahah

https://default.salsalabs.org/1d10a171-ea1b-4aca-be41-92bb698b6e47/8d215fc3-ee70-474a-a4be-919b58365820.jpg

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:24 PM
The real problem with him is he allowed his own birth daughter to become poisoned and brainwashed by the disgusting pinko education system.God forbid anyone should ever be allowed to become anything but a Republican or a free-thinking libertarian. Anything else is a sign of decadence and mental degeneracy.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 12:24 PM
Hahah

https://default.salsalabs.org/1d10a171-ea1b-4aca-be41-92bb698b6e47/8d215fc3-ee70-474a-a4be-919b58365820.jpg

Butch ass crackhead dyke. Probably munches carpet for a living. Pathetic.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 12:26 PM
Skimming the article it seems for whatever reasons she grew up without parents in her adult life. Typical liberal - busted family

Grew up without parents.... in her adult life? Something doesn't make sense with that sentence tbh.

Clarify for me, did she grow up without parents, or did she not have parents involved with her adult life?

thispego
01-07-2020, 12:28 PM
“family dispute involving the custody of her children” :lol

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:28 PM
nm

thispego
01-07-2020, 12:30 PM
Hahah

https://default.salsalabs.org/1d10a171-ea1b-4aca-be41-92bb698b6e47/8d215fc3-ee70-474a-a4be-919b58365820.jpg
Oh yeah, looks about right :lol

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:32 PM
Very typical, rather than address the topic, posters smear the character the messenger because the information disclosed reflects badly on Republicans.

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:33 PM
Y'all cool with race based gerrymanders?

Consider carefully, demographics are changing all the time.

thispego
01-07-2020, 12:33 PM
Very typical, rather than address the topic, posters smear the character the messenger because the information disclosed reflects badly on Republicans.

Oh yeah, Democrats never do the same thing :rolleyes

thispego
01-07-2020, 12:35 PM
Y'all cool with race based gerrymanders?

Consider carefully, demographics are changing all the time.

Of course not but that’s in the past, we want the black and brown vote, now

Spurs Homer
01-07-2020, 12:43 PM
Oh yeah, Democrats never do the same thing :rolleyes

whataboutism


just like trained lab rats

FrostKing
01-07-2020, 12:56 PM
Republicans exploit the lazy, dumb, and criminal

thispego
01-07-2020, 12:57 PM
whataboutism


just like trained lab rats
:rollin

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:59 PM
Of course not but that’s in the past, we want the black and brown vote, nowIt's not in the past.

ChumpDumper
01-07-2020, 01:01 PM
Of course not but that’s in the past, we want the black and brown vote, now
Uh, what are you doing to get that vote?

thispego
01-07-2020, 01:28 PM
Uh, what are you doing to get that vote?

Not suppressing it

thispego
01-07-2020, 01:29 PM
It's not in the past.
The “scheme” is

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 02:18 PM
Of course not but that’s in the past, we want the black and brown vote, now

they should count as 3/5 because they are 3/5 evolved compared to whites which are the most evolved/least primal breed of human in existence.

Chucho
01-07-2020, 02:25 PM
they should count as 3/5 because they are 3/5 evolved compared to whites which are the most evolved/least primal breed of human in existence.

Mexicans are primarily white, genius.

pgardn
01-07-2020, 02:27 PM
they should count as 3/5 because they are 3/5 evolved compared to whites which are the most evolved/least primal breed of human in existence.

Wow.

How did you come up with this rigid study?
The Civil War archives?

and wtf does most evolved mean?

ChumpDumper
01-07-2020, 02:38 PM
Not suppressing itBut you are suppressing it.

Actively.

Trill Clinton
01-07-2020, 02:38 PM
they should count as 3/5 because they are 3/5 evolved compared to whites which are the most evolved/least primal breed of human in existence.

you have chimpanze feet

thispego
01-07-2020, 02:40 PM
they should count as 3/5 because they are 3/5 evolved compared to whites which are the most evolved/least primal breed of human in existence.

:lmao lol nah

FrostKing
01-07-2020, 02:43 PM
Wow.

How did you come up with this rigid study?
The Civil War archives?

and wtf does most evolved mean?
Races which take their shoes off indoors

SpursforSix
01-07-2020, 02:47 PM
funny...on the forum home page, it just shows "woman exposes her father's"

thispego
01-07-2020, 02:53 PM
But you are suppressing it.

Actively.

Only the uneducated black and brown votes, just as the gerrymander designed

ChumpDumper
01-07-2020, 03:03 PM
Only the uneducated black and brown votes, just as the gerrymander designedWhile maximizing the uneducated white vote.

Whatever you say....

FrostKing
01-07-2020, 03:06 PM
While maximizing the uneducated white vote.

Whatever you say....
? The same rules apply for Whites. Some of us are indeed immigrants and have to obtain citizenship, request a mail in ballot and get a valid ID etc

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 03:13 PM
Mexicans are primarily white, genius.

I guess I was thinking "mixed blacks" for browns, tbh. Wasn't thinking of Hispanics. Though Native Americans were pretty primitive and they're mixed with that.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 03:17 PM
Wow.

How did you come up with this rigid study?
The Civil War archives?

and wtf does most evolved mean?
Most evolved in terms of the most perfect human.

Look at the NBA, NFL, etc.

Blacks are much more homo habilis, whites are much more homo sapiens.

Blacks are evolved to run, jump, escape, attack the fastest; as if they were still living a primitive hunter-gatherer life in the jungle, naked and with no civility, with both predator and prey animals.

Whites are evolved to think, design, strategize and engineer. Whites are built to achieve and succeed in a high-tech, high-civilized society with more thinking and less doing. Whereas blacks are evolved to do, whites are evolved to building robots to doing the work for them, rendering blacks obsolete.

Chucho
01-07-2020, 03:18 PM
I guess I was thinking "mixed blacks" for browns, tbh. Wasn't thinking of Hispanics. Though Native Americans were pretty primitive and they're mixed with that.

How so? They were incredibly efficient and resourceful. What didn't they have that the Euros had that separates savages from the civilized? Concepts of greed, wealth and complete control and superiority?

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 03:20 PM
How so? They were incredibly efficient and resourceful. What didn't they have that the Euros had that separates savages from the civilized? Concepts of greed, wealth and complete control and superiority?

Houses / closed-roof housing
Buildings, offices, etc
Organized cities
Organized governments
Common currency / taxation
Public services
Law and order

Etc.

thispego
01-07-2020, 03:20 PM
While maximizing the uneducated white vote.

Whatever you say....

No system is perfect. The uneducated numbers of all colors are rising

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 03:24 PM
No system is perfect. The uneducated numbers of all colors are rising

& yet student enrollment and student loan debt is at an all time high ?????

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 03:42 PM
The “scheme” isAnd you are sure of this how?

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 03:51 PM
Sure looks like I shut up a bunch of libbies with my elite rhetoric ITT :lol

thispego
01-07-2020, 04:03 PM
& yet student enrollment and student loan debt is at an all time high ?????

Yeah people don’t go to college for an education anymore, they go for an extended graduation from high school party before starting some bullshit dead end job. Dumb saps.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 04:12 PM
Yeah people don’t go to college for an education anymore, they go for an extended graduation from high school party before starting some bullshit dead end job. Dumb saps.

Joke's on them. Welp, I went to college to work in a specific industry (IT consulting) that REQUIRES a bachelor's degree (India Indians value education more than just about anyone), and I went for free, so it was all worth it in my case.

Winehole23
01-07-2020, 04:18 PM
From gay-bashing to white supremacy clubhouse in under one page.

Impressive.

DMC
01-07-2020, 05:52 PM
Is this her?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/01/07/mom-has-two-sets-of-twins-one-year-ns-roth-orig.cnn/video/playlists/atv-trending-videos/

DMC
01-07-2020, 05:54 PM
Houses / closed-roof housing
Buildings, offices, etc
Organized cities
Organized governments
Common currency / taxation
Public services
Law and order

Etc.

These are means to an end. What's the end? Happiness and peace? Pretty sure my people had that already you white fucking devil.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 05:58 PM
These are means to an end. What's the end? Happiness and peace? Pretty sure my people had that already you white fucking devil.

living to an average of 30, in the elements, with no common currency or basic public services, and the frightful threat of inter-tribal violence every day.... is your definition of happiness? LMAO.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 05:59 PM
God forbid anyone should ever be allowed to become anything but a Republican or a free-thinking libertarian. Anything else is a sign of decadence and mental degeneracy.

The third option is to be a mindless sheep, which of course you would advocate.

DMC
01-07-2020, 06:02 PM
living to an average of 30, in the elements, with no common currency or basic public services, and the frightful threat of inter-tribal violence every day.... is your definition of happiness? LMAO.

Happiness is relative. Example: You have a roof over your head, food to eat, probably a fat girlfriend to pork. You probably don't work hard. Still, you're full of hate and vitriol. You don't sit around a campfire smoking a peace pipe nor have you earned the respect of your tribe. The little frilly creature comforts used to be seen as pussy stuff. The men of that era were explorers, they didn't sleep indoors and drink green tea.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 06:08 PM
Happiness is relative. Example: You have a roof over your head, food to eat, probably a fat girlfriend to pork. You probably don't work hard. Still, you're full of hate and vitriol. You don't sit around a campfire smoking a peace pipe nor have you earned the respect of your tribe. The little frilly creature comforts used to be seen as pussy stuff. The men of that era were explorers, they didn't sleep indoors and drink green tea.
Well the "macho man" culture of past eras (in almost all societies of all races tbh) is also an example of a vestige of archaic primality. Intelligent cultures of today value women as capable equals to men, not simply homemakers and child bearers.

What happens when the red guy with the peace pipe gets his little sun dance rained on? What then? When hosting the party indoors isn't an option. When taking out a loan to finance replacement survival tools and food isn't an option. That's a microcosmic example of why intelligent civilized society is superior to primal subsistence life.

Spurtacular
01-07-2020, 06:46 PM
tl;dr

Bleeding heart Snitch Factor basically.

pgardn
01-07-2020, 06:50 PM
Most evolved in terms of the most possible human.

Look at the NBA, NFL, etc.

Blacks are much more homo habilis, whites are much more homo sapiens.

Blacks are evolved to run, jump, escape, attack the fastest; as if they were still living a primitive hunter-gatherer life in the jungle, naked and with no civility, with both predator and prey animals.

Whites are evolved to think, design, strategize and engineer. Whites are built to achieve and succeed in a high-tech, high-civilized society with more thinking and less doing. Whereas blacks are evolved to do, whites are evolved to building robots to doing the work for them, rendering blacks obsolete.

The most possible human?

And the bolded is absolutely nuts.
The world does not need blacks because we have robots...
You know what we really dont need? we really dont need you saying such ridiculous things.

Spurminator
01-07-2020, 06:50 PM
The third option is to be a mindless sheep, which of course you would advocate.

Which of these is more likely an action of a mindless sheep?

1. Releasing documents describing a strategy for racial gerrymandering
or
2. Reflexively ignoring the release and focusing on the fact that the releaser looks like a dyke


(You don't have to answer.)

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 06:52 PM
The most possible human?

And the bolded is absolutely nuts.
The world does not need blacks because we have robots...
You know what we really dont need? we really dont need you saying such ridiculous things.

Whoops, I meant most perfect human, but the message stands.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 06:55 PM
Which of these is more likely an action of a mindless sheep?

1. Releasing documents describing a strategy for racial gerrymandering
or
2. Reflexively ignoring the release and focusing on the fact that the releaser looks like a dyke


(You don't have to answer.)
You're moving the goal posts, chickenshit.

Gerrymandering by demographic commonality is common sense. Making perfect square districts would mix rural, suburban, ghetto, urban way too much. It's better to have like-minded people in the same district.

Spurminator
01-07-2020, 08:34 PM
You're moving the goal posts, chickenshit.

Gerrymandering by demographic commonality is common sense. Making perfect square districts would mix rural, suburban, ghetto, urban way too much. It's better to have like-minded people in the same district.

That's not how they do it. They split certain demographics into multiple districts to dilute their influence.

You need to read up on gerrymandering before you talk shit. You should have taken my suggestion that you not answer.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 08:38 PM
That's not how they do it. They split certain demographics into multiple districts to dilute their influence.

You need to read up on gerrymandering before you talk shit. You should have taken my suggestion that you not answer.
I've known since the 2000 census (age 6) that all districts must be contiguous.

Spurminator
01-07-2020, 08:39 PM
I've known since the 2000 census (age 6) that all districts must be contiguous.

Do you want a cookie?

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 08:41 PM
Do you want a cookie?

Though the libs complain and laugh about it, it makes perfect sense that some of the districts would be shaped like snakes, rings and horseshoes, because you're talking about suburbia (likely run by a rich GOP representative), ghettoland (likely run by a Democrat and very often a minority one), urbia (likely run by a rich white or jewish democrat), and rural lands (likely a tough, evangelical, old fashioned country Republican representative).

Spurminator
01-07-2020, 08:44 PM
Though the libs complain and laugh about it, it makes perfect sense that some of the districts would be shaped like snakes, rings and horseshoes, because you're talking about suburbia (likely run by a rich GOP representative), ghettoland (likely run by a Democrat and very often a minority one), urbia (likely run by a rich white or jewish democrat), and rural lands (likely a tough, evangelical, old fashioned country Republican representative).

Again, that's not why those districts are shaped that way. It's the opposite of why they're shaped that way. The districts aren't made up of like-populations.

Millennial_Messiah
01-07-2020, 08:46 PM
Again, that's not why those districts are shaped that way. It's the opposite of why they're shaped that way. The districts aren't made up of like-populations.

then explain the Texas fajita strip?

Spurminator
01-07-2020, 08:54 PM
then explain the Texas fajita strip?

The one that was shut down by the Supreme Court? Is it your position that a district snaking from south Austin to the Mexican border should be represented by one person?

Winehole23
01-08-2020, 01:51 AM
The third option is to be a mindless sheep, which of course you would advocate.I'm a mindless sheep for preferring the topic over inane speculation about the sexual orientation of Jennifer Hofeller and gratuitous bigotry?

Whatever you say, man.

koriwhat
01-08-2020, 04:17 PM
The most possible human?

And the bolded is absolutely nuts.
The world does not need blacks because we have robots...
You know what we really dont need? we really dont need you saying such ridiculous things.

That was a bullshit statement no doubt. Robots make black Americans obsolete? Gtfoh!

TheGreatYacht
01-08-2020, 04:38 PM
The racial war and victimhood muscle flexing going on here :lol

spurraider21
01-08-2020, 04:51 PM
The racial war
you want to nuke the whole middle east


and victimhood muscle flexing going on here :lol
you think jews are ruining your life

Chucho
01-08-2020, 04:58 PM
you think jews are ruining your life

Zionist semen shielder.

spurraider21
01-08-2020, 05:01 PM
Zionist semen shielder.
noecon shill

DMC
01-08-2020, 05:18 PM
noecon shill

reprobate

Winehole23
01-09-2022, 09:24 AM
another great Michael Harriot thread

after Justice Roberts proclaimed racism dead in Shelby versus Holder, racist Republicans restricted voting and passed racist gerrymanders more or less instantly.

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