View Full Version : "Miss me yet, Baltimore?"
Clipper Nation
01-11-2020, 11:26 PM
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monosylab1k
01-11-2020, 11:37 PM
They would have missed the playoffs completely if they played that borderline retarded wop.
Spurtacular
01-11-2020, 11:38 PM
:lol
Spurtacular
01-11-2020, 11:38 PM
They would have missed the playoffs completely if they played that borderline retarded wop.
Hair's difference. SMH
monosylab1k
01-11-2020, 11:41 PM
Hair's difference. SMH
14-2 vs likely 7-9 isn’t a hair’s difference. They came out flat for the playoffs but that happens a lot, and it’s happened to Flacco as well.
Why do fans of ringless franchises act like winning in the playoffs should be so easy? :lmao
Trainwreck2100
01-11-2020, 11:41 PM
They would have missed the playoffs completely if they played that borderline retarded wop.
so they would have played 1 less game bfd.
Blake
01-11-2020, 11:43 PM
so they would have played 1 less game bfd.
Lol
monosylab1k
01-11-2020, 11:52 PM
Fans of teams that haven’t rang in forever acting like playoff wins come easy :lmao
Spurtacular
01-11-2020, 11:53 PM
14-2 vs likely 7-9 isn’t a hair’s difference. They came out flat for the playoffs but that happens a lot, and it’s happened to Flacco as well.
Why do fans of ringless franchises act like winning in the playoffs should be so easy? :lmao
I was referencing your cuck-like behavior and the comparison to blake.
I agree that Jackson shined in the reg. season. That doesn't matter for much if he's choking in the postseason.
Flacco would've been the better option tonight.
Also :lol at Pat bandwagon now 49er bandwagon boy trying to boast of a higher level of understanding based on his fandom selection.
Spurtacular
01-11-2020, 11:56 PM
so they would have played 1 less game bfd.
Pretty much.
Although if Harbaugh wouldn't have been so hasty and had put Jackson in a Taysum Hill role, the Ravens might still be alive right now.
monosylab1k
01-11-2020, 11:56 PM
I was referencing your cuck-like behavior and the comparison to blake.
I agree that Jackson shined in the reg. season. That doesn't matter for much if he's choking in the postseason.
Flacco would've been the better option tonight.
Also :lol at Pat bandwagon now 49er bandwagon boy trying to boast of a higher level of understanding based on his fandom selection.
Your rooting for a team that regularly shits the bed in the playoffs should have taught you that winning in the playoffs is fucking hard, and having a “lost in the playoffs, whatever might as well have just gone 1-15” is such a retarded attitude to have.
Clipper Nation
01-11-2020, 11:56 PM
Fans of teams that haven’t rang in forever acting like playoff wins come easy :lmao
:lol Yeah, can't believe how quick people are to dismiss Flacco's greatness in the playoffs, like it was easy to win all those playoff games (especially on the road).
monosylab1k
01-11-2020, 11:59 PM
:lol Yeah, can't believe how quick people are to dismiss Flacco's greatness in the playoffs, like it was easy to win all those playoff games (especially on the road).
Flacco isn’t in his prime anymore. He’s absolutely terrible now. Do you think the Niners should bring Joe Montana back to start next week because of all his playoff success?
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:00 AM
Your rooting for a team that regularly shits the bed in the playoffs should have taught you that winning in the playoffs is fucking hard, and having a “lost in the playoffs, whatever might as well have just gone 1-15” is such a retarded attitude to have.
It's taught me that there's no excuse for choking. Do you see me here making excuses for the Vikings choking?
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:02 AM
Flacco isn’t in his prime anymore. He’s absolutely terrible now. Do you think the Niners should bring Joe Montana back to start next week because of all his playoff success?
Do you think he's good enough to throw for better than 50 completion percentage and 90 yards? Or would that be too much to ask?
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 12:03 AM
Flacco isn’t in his prime anymore. He’s absolutely terrible now. Do you think the Niners should bring Joe Montana back to start next week because of all his playoff success?
:lol The Ravens are so stacked, they went 14-2 with a QB who can't throw a football. They would have made the playoffs with Flacco and not gotten embarrassed tonight.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:03 AM
It's taught me that there's no excuse for choking. Do you see me here making excuses for the Vikings choking?
Do you think the Vikings should have just gone 6-10 cuz who fucking cares if they didn’t win it all?
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:03 AM
:lol The Ravens are so stacked, they went 14-2 with a QB who can't throw a football. They would have made the playoffs with Flacco and not gotten embarrassed tonight.
Flacco got outplayed by the Broncos dogshit backups :lmao
Millennial_Messiah
01-12-2020, 12:04 AM
Flacco isn’t in his prime anymore. He’s absolutely terrible now. Do you think the Niners should bring Joe Montana back to start next week because of all his playoff success?
to be fair though, the Ravens were winning games last year with Flacco, they just decided to make the move to *pizzazz* up their offense, and it did for awhile but the gimmick died in the playoffs, and the same for this year.
I think they have a top 5 offensive line and a lot of QBs would look good and plus their running game is special. But if Yanda retires and others get shuffled around that offense could stink up the joint and they could be an 8-8 or so team next year.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:05 AM
:lol Yeah, can't believe how quick people are to dismiss Flacco's greatness in the playoffs, like it was easy to win all those playoff games (especially on the road).
Guys like Slob were chalking that up to luck at the time.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:07 AM
to be fair though, the Ravens were winning games last year with Flacco, they just decided to make the move to *pizzazz* up their offense, and it did for awhile but the gimmick died in the playoffs, and the same for this year.
I think they have a top 5 offensive line and a lot of QBs would look good and plus their running game is special. But if Yanda retires and others get shuffled around that offense could stink up the joint and they could be an 8-8 or so team next year.
They went 4-5 with Flacco and 6-1 with Lamar. And Lamar played because Flacco got hurt, not to “pizzazz” the offense. Please stop talking out of your ass
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:07 AM
Do you think the Vikings should have just gone 6-10 cuz who fucking cares if they didn’t win it all?
I think they should've gone 14-2 and got the home field advantage and the bye they needed. But I admit that the odds of that happening were under ten percent. But that's where I saw this team's chances of having a track for winning the Super Bowl. That's basically what the Ravens did; but then they didn't a QB who could manage a playoff game well. He made a case for Kurt Cousins being the better option FFS. :lol
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:09 AM
I think they should've gone 14-2 and got the home field advantage and the bye they needed. But I admit that the odds of that happening were under ten percent. But that's where I saw this team's chances of having a track for winning the Super Bowl. That's basically what the Ravens did; but then they didn't a QB who could manage the game. He made a case for Kurt Cousins being the better option FFS. :lol
So Cousins is a better QB because he failed to get a first round bye and hypothetically could have game managed the Ravens to a win tonight? :lmao
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:11 AM
They went 4-5 with Flacco and 6-1 with Lamar. And Lamar played because Flacco got hurt, not to “pizzazz” the offense. Please stop talking out of your ass
Yup. They made a choice based on a small sample size.
And again, I don't even say I think the choice was "wrong" in the long run.
I'm just noting the obvious reality that the proven QB may have got it done tonight; whereas the unproven QB didn't.
Why does Joe Flacco's composure trigger you?
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:12 AM
So Cousins is a better QB because he failed to get a first round bye and hypothetically could have game managed the Ravens to a win tonight? :lmao
I'm not saying Cousins is better outright. But he did manage to not play like a shithead and get his team a playoff W.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:17 AM
I'm not saying Cousins is better outright. But he did manage to not play like a shithead and get his team a playoff W.
But then he shit the bed today so who cares, in fact go sign Joe Flacco to replace him because of a playoff run 8 years ago, right?
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 12:17 AM
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Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:23 AM
But then he shit the bed today so who cares, in fact go sign Joe Flacco to replace him because of a playoff run 8 years ago, right?
Cousins play today wasn't the glaring issue. Their condition based on playing a second road game against a rested team was the glaring issue. I already said that the Vikings needed that bye and HFA given that this was their likely ceiling otherwise. You're desperately trying to compare apples to oranges.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:26 AM
Cousins play today wasn't the glaring issue. Their condition based on playing a second road game against a rested team was the glaring issue. I already said that the Vikings needed that bye and HFA given that this was their likely ceiling otherwise. You're desperately trying to compare apples to oranges.
Flacco wins, period. How dare you take Cousins over Super Bowl Champ Flacco??????
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:29 AM
Flacco wins, period. How dare you take Cousins over Super Bowl Champ Flacco??????
This was never my point. Why are you so desperate to change the issue / put words into my mouth.
Defend your boy if that's what you're gonna do. Don't look for fake arguments.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:30 AM
This was never my point. Why are you so desperate to change the issue / put words into my mouth.
Defend your boy if that's what you're gonna do. Don't look for fake arguments.
So you wouldn’t replace Cousins with Flacco?
GAustex
01-12-2020, 12:31 AM
Neither if possible
Trainwreck2100
01-12-2020, 12:32 AM
So you wouldn’t replace Cousins with Flacco?
are you ok man, you're starting to worry me. Did the contrails finally get to you like they got to TSA
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:36 AM
So you wouldn’t replace Cousins with Flacco?
I think it's different with a QB who's been in the system rather than bringing one in.
Of course Flacco sucked in his first season at Denver. And given his age and diminishing abilities, I can't say that is going to change.
But he did have a little left in the tank for Baltimore. They made their decision though.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:38 AM
are you ok man, you're starting to worry me. Did the contrails finally get to you like they got to TSA
Black QB's playoff choking / white QB's former success are sore issues for this slob apparently.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:39 AM
Flacco wins, period. How dare you take Cousins over Super Bowl Champ Flacco??????
:lol Straight-up lashing out.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:40 AM
are you ok man, you're starting to worry me. Did the contrails finally get to you like they got to TSA
Are you also retarded enough to think that current Joe Flacco is better than Lamar? :lmao
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:41 AM
I think it's different with a QB who's been in the system rather than bringing one in.
Of course Flacco sucked in his first season at Denver. And given his age and diminishing abilities, I can't say that is going to change.
But he did have a little left in the tank for Baltimore. They made their decision though.
So you wouldn’t replace Cousins with Flacco :lmao
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:42 AM
Are you also retarded enough to think that current Joe Flacco is better than Lamar? :lmao
Better for what? For winning tonight? I think that it's debatable.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:44 AM
So you wouldn’t replace Cousins with Flacco :lmao
Yea, and I gave you a nuanced reason. But you think this comes down to overly simplistic factors.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:45 AM
Better for what? For winning tonight? I think that it's debatable.
Titans were pressuring Lamar every play, and you think immobile ass Flacco would survive that? :lmao It would have been an 8 sack night :lmao
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:46 AM
Yea, and I gave you a nuanced reason. But you think this comes down to overly simplistic factors.
Flacco won a Super Bowl playing 3 road games, something Cousins couldn’t do. Obviously you should replace Cousins with Flacco.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:48 AM
Titans were pressuring Lamar every play, and you think immobile ass Flacco would survive that? :lmao It would have been an 8 sack night :lmao
The pressure wasn't that bad; Lamar had 59 passing attempts FFS.
Which brings us to a glaring reality; Lamar did well when he played to his strength of running. Suddenly, he tried to be a dropback passer; but given that he's a shitty version of Flacco in that regard...
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 12:49 AM
Big facts only:
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Trainwreck2100
01-12-2020, 12:49 AM
Are you also retarded enough to think that current Joe Flacco is better than Lamar? :lmao
it's not that man, they're both bad just in different ways, the ravens are probably fucked when they have to give lamar flacco money though. But I'm just worried about you, cause i care.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:50 AM
Flacco won a Super Bowl playing 3 road games, something Cousins couldn’t do. Obviously you should replace Cousins with Flacco.
:lmao You didn't have to give us a demo on how you're overly relying on overly simplistic measures.
:lmao Ignoring the prime Flacco vs. old Flacco factor.
:lmao Slob
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:51 AM
:lmao Ignoring the prime Flacco vs. old Flacco factor.
:lmao criticizing the exact fucking thing you did and this thread did.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:52 AM
it's not that man, they're both bad just in different ways, the ravens are probably fucked when they have to give lamar flacco money though. But I'm just worried about you, cause i care.
Oh fuck off, cuntface.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:55 AM
:lmao criticizing the exact fucking thing you did and this thread did.
Word salad.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 12:56 AM
Oh fuck off, cuntface.
:lol Is that how you treat someone who says he cares?
Man, you in a bad place right now thanks to black QB failing. :lol
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:59 AM
:lol Is that how you treat someone who says he cares?
Man, you in a bad place right now thanks to black QB failing. :lol
I was rooting against the Ravens, dipshit. All I’m saying is anyone who thinks current Flacco is a better option than Lamar is retarded, and you were more than happy to show everyone how retarded you are.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 12:59 AM
Word salad.
Shitty reading comprehension
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:04 AM
I was rooting against the Ravens, dipshit. All I’m saying is anyone who thinks current Flacco is a better option than Lamar is retarded, and you were more than happy to show everyone how retarded you are.
I'm just properly assessing the immediate reality (which greatly triggers you).
Tonight, Lamar Jackson was closer to 2017 NFC Championship Case choker Case Keenum than to 2012-13 Super Bowl Champion Joe Flacco.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:05 AM
Shitty reading comprehension
How bad was Lamar Jackson tonight?
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 01:07 AM
How bad was Lamar Jackson tonight?
Terrible. He’s also the reason they were even playing that game.
Bill_Brasky
01-12-2020, 01:10 AM
Turnovers killed em
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:28 AM
Terrible. He’s also the reason they were even playing that game.
And one and done is about the worst thing for a team, tbh.
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 01:29 AM
Even the Ravens' own players know what the deal is with Lamar:
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monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 01:30 AM
And one and done is about the worst thing for a team, tbh.
Missing the playoffs is worse than one and done, Derp.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:32 AM
Missing the playoffs is worse than one and done, Derp.
Cos you get better draft position?
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:33 AM
Even the Ravens' own players know what the deal is with Lamar:
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Apparently that's better than missing the playoffs.
:lmao Slob
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 01:34 AM
Cos you get better draft position?
“lol just go 0-16 every year if the alternative is 14-2 but no ring!”
Trainwreck2100
01-12-2020, 01:35 AM
Turnovers killed em
that jackson fumble was by for the worst, he already got hit but went to pass when he probably should have ran it, but he expected the guy that hit him to still be out of the play.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:36 AM
“lol just go 0-16 every year if the alternative is 14-2 but no ring!”
So you're going to make your argument by going to extremes?
:lol Desperate
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:37 AM
that jackson fumble was by for the worst, he already got hit but went to pass when he probably should have ran it, but he expected the guy that hit him to still be out of the play.
He totally should've tucked the ball. Not protecting the ball in the playoffs is a rookie mistake.
People say Rodgers takes too many sacks; but that's exactly the type of stuff he is avoiding.
Robz4000
01-12-2020, 01:47 AM
Flacco isn’t in his prime anymore. He’s absolutely terrible now. Do you think the Niners should bring Joe Montana back to start next week because of all his playoff success?
I'd be down with that. In Joe Cool I trust.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:49 AM
I'd be down with that. In Joe Cool I trust.
Just like then, Steve Young is the better option.
Robz4000
01-12-2020, 01:50 AM
Just like then, Steve Young is the better option.
Steve Young is my favorite player of all time, but Montana > Young in their primes. If current Young wants to start next week sign me up!
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 01:51 AM
So you're going to make your argument by going to extremes?
:lol Desperate
You literally said draft positioning is more important than going one and done, and there’s no better draft position than going 0-16. So enjoy your own dogshit take rubbed into your face.
HarlemHeat37
01-12-2020, 01:53 AM
How did this thread reach 3 pages?:lol
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:53 AM
You literally said draft positioning is more important than going one and done, and there’s no better draft position than going 0-16. So enjoy your own dogshit take rubbed into your face.
The alternative for an 0-16 team is not the playoffs.
Speaking more sensibly, would the Ravens rather be 12 spots up in the order than have that giant L? I'd think so. Same goes for the fans.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:55 AM
Steve Young is my favorite player of all time, but Montana > Young in their primes. If current Young wants to start next week sign me up!
No way. Joe had all the weapons in their prime. Then past-prime Young played like an MVP and won with the same weapons past their prime in convincing fashion.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 01:55 AM
The alternative for an 0-16 team is not the playoffs.
Speaking more sensibly, would the Ravens rather be 12 spots up in the order than have that giant L? I'd think so. Same goes for the fans.
Ravens fans would rather be the 1-seed with a shot at a ring. You don’t get to retroactively say “well now that we know they lost, they should have just missed the playoffs for draft positioning”.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 01:58 AM
Ravens fans would rather be the 1-seed with a shot at a ring. You don’t get to retroactively say “well now that we know they lost, they should have just missed the playoffs for draft positioning”.
That's fair enough. I was speaking more from an inventory POV though.
Yea, they had their shot and Lamar choked, big league.
Robz4000
01-12-2020, 01:59 AM
No way. Joe had all the weapons in their prime. Then past-prime Young played like an MVP and won with the same weapons past their prime in convincing fashion.
That Charger team was mediocre compared to their previous SB competition tbh. It is close between Young and Montana, however. If Young had won in the late 90s with TO I'd agree with you.
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 02:05 AM
How did this thread reach 3 pages?:lol
Good question. Shtick nation doing his thing. Don’t get why mono is getting so upset by it :lol
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 02:06 AM
That Charger team was mediocre compared to their previous SB competition tbh. It is close between Young and Montana, however. If Young had won in the late 90s with TO I'd agree with you.
Young would've gotten six or more rings if the 49ers had inserted him into their lineup when they got him. Of course, I understand why that didn't happen.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 02:06 AM
Good question. Shtick nation doing his thing. Don’t get why mono is getting so upset by it :lol
I think the black QB thing is a sensitive subject for him. He hasn't responded every time I've advanced this theory. :lol
Robz4000
01-12-2020, 02:09 AM
Young would've gotten six or more rings if the 49ers had inserted him into their lineup when they got him. Of course, I understand why that didn't happen.
Possible. He was the Rodgers to Montana's Favre.
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 02:43 AM
This message is hidden because spurraider21 is on your ignore list.
:lmao
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 02:52 AM
:lol mono had to view post to know i was talking about him before he went out of his way to post that
claims to ignore and does just the opposite
monosylab1k
01-12-2020, 02:58 AM
This message is hidden because spurraider21 is on your ignore list.
:lmao
FrostKing
01-12-2020, 03:19 AM
Top 5 choke of the 2000's
Especially if Jackson is awarded with regular season MVP
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 03:29 AM
This message is hidden because spurraider21 is on your ignore list.
:lmao
Damn, dude. You're turning on all your fellow chumpettes.
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 03:30 AM
:lol mono had to view post to know i was talking about him before he went out of his way to post that
claims to ignore and does just the opposite
Hmm. From whom have I seen this type of rhetoric before?
FrostKing
01-12-2020, 05:59 AM
More MVPs than Playoff wins
i'm_still_beta
01-12-2020, 06:55 AM
No. Flacco had one fluke playoffs run and was absolute trash. He was benched in Denver too:lmao:rollin
HarlemHeat37
01-12-2020, 07:41 AM
No. Flacco had one fluke playoffs run and was absolute trash. He was benched in Denver too:lmao:rollin
Flacco's 2012 run was one of the biggest anomalies in sports history. He was a mediocre to bad QB for most of his career, yet somehow became a GOAT-level QB for 4 weeks or so to carry a team to a SB:lol
Foles was similar, I guess, but that Eagles offense was stacked.
i'm_still_beta
01-12-2020, 08:15 AM
Flacco's 2012 run was one of the biggest anomalies in sports history. He was a mediocre to bad QB for most of his career, yet somehow became a GOAT-level QB for 4 weeks or so to carry a team to a SB:lol
Foles was similar, I guess, but that Eagles offense was stacked.
Yep. He was benched and Jackson lead Ravens to playoffs. Ravens would be 7-9 with Flacco. Jackson perfomance in playoffs so far is abysmal but at least they are in the playoffs.
To be fair, I think Jackson will be exposed next season just like Kaepernick before him
Ghazi
01-12-2020, 08:45 AM
lol Flacco
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 08:47 AM
Yep. He was benched and Jackson lead Ravens to playoffs. Ravens would be 7-9 with Flacco. Jackson perfomance in playoffs so far is abysmal but at least they are in the playoffs.
To be fair, I think Jackson will be exposed next season just like Kaepernick before him
Yeah Jackson clearly isn’t the answer but neither is the Down syndrome face guinea. He’s been a shitty QB in the regular season and playoffs outside of one 4 game exception.
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 11:23 AM
No. Flacco had one fluke playoffs run and was absolute trash. He was benched in Denver too:lmao:rollin
:lol He's 12th all-time in career playoff passing TDs. Has more road playoff wins than any other QB. He was one awful Lee Evans drop away from back-to-back Super Bowls. He has a better playoff record than Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees and Struggle Wilson :lol
I don't understand why people act like it was only one year, tbh. January Joe has always been a thing.
Blake
01-12-2020, 11:47 AM
Flacco would've been the better option tonight.
It's only January but this might hold as the stupidest opinion for 2020
SpursforSix
01-12-2020, 11:55 AM
It's only January but this might hold as the stupidest opinion for 2020
I fully expect for Andy to take over all top 10 spots.
Mark Celibate
01-12-2020, 12:31 PM
Greg Roman deserves a lot of blame yesterday too. Abandoned the running game way too early, their running backs had what, 9 carries? I thought going for it on 4th and 1 early was a panic-move as well imo. They clearly looked like the better team until that decision even when down 7-0. Just punt the ball, pin them deep, and then get it back and score. When you're the better team, play the long game don't play "high reward, high risk" early on especially when you know you're not a come from behind kind of team.
tbh it felt like The Bot was out there calling the game for Baltimore imo
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 01:26 PM
:lol He's 12th all-time in career playoff passing TDs. Has more road playoff wins than any other QB. He was one awful Lee Evans drop away from back-to-back Super Bowls. He has a better playoff record than Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees and Struggle Wilson :lol
I don't understand why people act like it was only one year, tbh. January Joe has always been a thing.
Take away that one year and he’s 6-5 all time in the playoffs with 14 touchdowns and 10 picks. Not bad, but far from spectacular.
Most importantly though, he hasn’t even been in the playoffs since 2014, so when you say January Joe “has always been a thing”, it clearly hasn’t been a thing for 5+ years :lol
His road wins in the playoffs are also largely a function of him being on stacked teams that underachieved during the regular season. He’s also had plenty of stinkers in the playoffs (2009 against Indy, 2010 against Pittsburgh, even in 2011 he was by no means lights out against a mediocre New England defense).
DAF86
01-12-2020, 01:32 PM
Ravens will be just fine with Jackson. Didn't he have almost 500 total yds yesterday? He did well enough.
That was a strange game last night. Titans capitalized every opportunity they had and the Ravens just found different ways to fuck up (yeah, Jackson fucked up in 2 of those but when they were already in desperation mode with the game out of reach).
I know the funny thing is to put this on Jackson, but last night's loss wasn't on him, imho.
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 01:37 PM
Ravens would be just fine with Jackson. Didn't he have almost 500 total yds yesterday? He did well enough.
That was a strange game last night. Titans capitalized every opportunity they had and the Ravens just found different ways to fuck up (yeah, Jackson fucked up in 2 of those but when they were already in desperation mode with the game out of reach).
I know the funny thing is to put this on Jackson, but last night's loss wasn't on him, imho.
If the game was decided by who chimped around and racked up a bunch of yards between the 20 yard lines then yeah he played great, but he didn’t do well enough when his team only puts up 12 points.
Still better than Joe “hasn’t played past December in over 5 years” Flacco though :lol
HarlemHeat37
01-12-2020, 01:38 PM
Ravens will be just fine with Jackson. Didn't he have almost 500 total yds yesterday? He did well enough.
That was a strange game last night. Titans capitalized every opportunity they had and the Ravens just found different ways to fuck up (yeah, Jackson fucked up in 2 of those but when they were already in desperation mode with the game out of reach).
I know the funny thing is to put this on Jackson, but last night's loss wasn't on him, imho.
He was pretty terrible, tbh. Their receivers were even worse, but still. His yardage was mostly garbage time against a defense playing conservatively after going up 14-0. The balls he threw were wobbly and too slow the entire game, the CBs made a break on them every time.
It's dumb to write him off completely, he still led a team to a first round bye and this is a league where most of the QBs are always mediocre or worse anyways, but he needs to keep working on his game. He has looked bad in the only 2 playoffs games of his career, so far, Peyton Manning style.
You can't succeed long term in a gimmick offense. People here troll about Cam Newton, but at least he could run a real offense to compliment his running style. Jackson needs to develop into a QB who can run a real offensive style when a team adjusts.
Baltimore should also draft receiving help.
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 01:40 PM
Take away that one year and he’s 6-5 all time in the playoffs with 14 touchdowns and 10 picks. Not bad, but far from spectacular.
Most importantly though, he hasn’t even been in the playoffs since 2014, so when you say January Joe “has always been a thing”, it clearly hasn’t been a thing for 5+ years :lol
Take away "that one year" and he still has two other AFC title game appearances that they lost by single digits. One of them is a win if Lee Evans just catches a perfectly-thrown pass. You'd think a Patriots fan wouldn't be so quick to dismiss January Joe, since he took a wet shit on your defense several times in the playoffs :lol
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 01:43 PM
Take away "that one year" and he still has two other AFC title game appearances that they lost by single digits. One of them is a win if Lee Evans just catches a perfectly-thrown pass. You'd think a Patriots fan wouldn't be so quick to dismiss January Joe, since he took a wet shit on your defense several times in the playoffs :lol
Didn’t even bother addressing the fact “January Joe” hasn’t played a game in January since the 2014 season :lol
Outside of that one year, when did Flacco take a shit on the Patriots in the playoffs? You’re just making stuff up now with the “several times” bullshit :lol
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 01:45 PM
Ravens will be just fine with Jackson. Didn't he have almost 500 total yds yesterday? He did well enough.
Just like last year, most of Lamar's stats came once the opposing defense started playing safe and conservative with a big lead. Most of his passes were ducks that gave his receivers no chance to make plays. The Titans forced him to throw and he was terrible.
DAF86
01-12-2020, 01:46 PM
If the game was decided by who chimped around and racked up a bunch of yards between the 20 yard lines then yeah he played great, but he didn’t do well enough when his team only puts up 12 points.
Still better than Joe “hasn’t played past December in over 5 years” Flacco though :lol
But that's what I'm saying, Jackson played well enough to put way more than just 12 pts.
First drive: Ravens doing their thing untill that Ravens' TE turned a reception into an interception (turning point in the game).
Then: Horrible play call by the coaches in 4th and inches.
Before the half: have to settle for a FG because of time when they looked primed to score a TD.
And un the second half there was another horrible call in 4th and inches.
Besides all that his receivers dropped like 7, 8 passes.
Maybe I shouldn't have said Jackson played "well enough". He just wasn't as bad as 12 pts would suggest.
DAF86
01-12-2020, 01:47 PM
Just like last year, most of Lamar's stats came once the opposing defense started playing safe and conservative with a big lead. Most of his passes were ducks that gave his receivers no chance to make plays. The Titans forced him to throw and he was terrible.
Jackson already had the entire Titans team beat on total yds by halftime.
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 01:52 PM
But that's what I'm saying, Jackson played well enough to put way more than just 12 pts.
First drive: Ravens doing their thing untill that Ravens' TE turned a reception into an interception (turning point in the game).
Then: Horrible play call by the coaches in 4th and inches.
Before the half: have to settle for a FG because of time when they looked primed to score a TD.
And un the second half there was another horrible call in 4th and inches.
Besides all that his receivers dropped like 7, 8 passes.
Maybe I shouldn't have said Jackson played "well enough". He just wasn't as bad as 12 pts would suggest.
Going line by line:
First drive I agree wasn’t his fault, but it was a poorly thrown pass. Good enough for the TE to grab it, but not a well thrown ball.
Horrible play call on 4th and inches - First it many examples of Jackson stalling out near the red zone and allowing Tennessee to force a 4th down. Further, they’re able to stack the box against him because he can’t throw accurately.
before the half - had to settle for a field goal because of shitty black QB-style clock management. Jackson burned through a ton of time huddling up because his primitive tribal brain can’t run a no huddle
second half 4th and inches - same as above, the Titans were playing a bend but don’t break strategy which is how he racked up yards but couldn’t get points.
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 01:54 PM
Jackson already had the entire Titans team beat on total yds by halftime.
The Titans were given good field position by an interception and a stupid penalty by Lamar on their first touchdown drive and a failed conversion attempt on 4th-and-short to set up their second touchdown. Then they went soft on defense for the rest of the half.
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 01:56 PM
Didn’t even bother addressing the fact “January Joe” hasn’t played a game in January since the 2014 season :lol
Outside of that one year, when did Flacco take a shit on the Patriots in the playoffs? You’re just making stuff up now with the “several times” bullshit :lol
Doubtful that Clipper Nation is going to be providing examples to back up his “several times” comment :lol
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 01:59 PM
Doubtful that Clipper Nation (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500) is going to be providing examples to back up his “several times” comment :lol
:lol He outplayed Brady in the 2012 AFC title game and put up 4 touchdowns and 31 points on your ass in Foxboro in 2015.
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 02:00 PM
:lol He outplayed Brady in the 2012 AFC title game and put up 4 touchdowns and 31 points on your ass in Foxboro in 2015.
:lmao so you’re two other examples are games the Patriots won?
Thats probably why I can’t remember the other “wet shits” he’s ostensibly taken on the Patriots....most people who aren’t retarded don’t view games where team A won as games where the QB on team B took a “wet shit” on team A.
Blake
01-12-2020, 02:07 PM
I mean it's pretty simple. The Ravens had 3 turnovers, were 0-4 on fourth downs, had to settle for field goals and couldn't stop Henry on defense.
But hey maybe Eli would be a valid option at QB next year though tbhimobbq
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 02:09 PM
:lmao so you’re two other examples are games the Patriots won?
Thats probably why I can’t remember the other “wet shits” he’s ostensibly taken on the Patriots....most people who aren’t retarded don’t view games where team A won as games where the QB on team B took a “wet shit” on team A.
:lol The first game is a win if Lee Evans makes what should be an easy catch for any NFL receiver. The second game is a win if their defense doesn't blow both of the two-touchdown leads Flacco gave them. He wasn't doing the Lamar Jackson "stat-padding against prevent defense" routine.
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 02:10 PM
I mean it's pretty simple. The Ravens had 3 turnovers, were 0-4 on fourth downs, had to settle for field goals and couldn't stop Henry on defense.
But hey maybe Eli would be a valid option at QB next year though tbhimobbq
Na Eli had a playoff appearance in 2016, way too recent. Ravens need to bring January Terry (Bradshaw) of retirement, hes a proven playoff performer.
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 02:12 PM
I mean it's pretty simple. The Ravens had 3 turnovers, were 0-4 on fourth downs, had to settle for field goals and couldn't stop Henry on defense.
It's pretty simple. The Titans forced Lamar to throw the ball, and he couldn't do it.
Can't say I'm surprised that a Peyton fanboy is defending a known playoff choker with two of the most embarrassing one-and-dones in playoff history, though.
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 02:14 PM
:lol The first game is a win if Lee Evans makes what should be an easy catch for any NFL receiver. The second game is a win if their defense doesn't blow both of the two-touchdown leads Flacco gave them. He wasn't doing the Lamar Jackson "stat-padding against prevent defense" routine.
Great, and if my uncle had a pussy he’d be my aunt.
These are the “wet shits” I’m supposed to remember, the games that Flacco almost won but didn’t win :lol
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 02:16 PM
You guys remember the wet, steamy shits Tom Brady took on the Giants in both Super Bowls? If not for a fluky helmet catch and a Wes Welker drop the Patriots win both games!!!
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 02:19 PM
Tbh it’s a stain on flaccos resume that he couldn’t even make the playoffs with a supporting cast capable of going 14-2 with a gimmicky chimp who’s wildly innacurrate throwing into tight windows.
Trill Clinton
01-12-2020, 02:23 PM
I was referencing your cuck-like behavior and the comparison to blake.
I agree that Jackson shined in the reg. season. That doesn't matter for much if he's choking in the postseason.
Flacco would've been the better option tonight.
Also :lol at Pat bandwagon now 49er bandwagon boy trying to boast of a higher level of understanding based on his fandom selection.
Jackson did not choke. I've seen that take on Twitter and the only ones saying it are dummies and suspected racists.
i'm_still_beta
01-12-2020, 02:36 PM
Jackson did not choke. I've seen that take on Twitter and the only ones saying it are dummies and suspected racists.
He did't. He's just not that good.
And Lamar was bad against Titans. if someone criticizes Lamar for his perfomance yesterday, that doesn’t mean that he’s stupid or racist. He deserved to be criticized
GAustex
01-12-2020, 02:50 PM
Going in Ravens we’re scary...maybe the favorite. They looked so good during the regular season. But the bright lights of the big game seemed too much for the young QB who had three poor turnovers.
Blake
01-12-2020, 04:56 PM
It's pretty simple. The Titans forced Lamar to throw the ball, and he couldn't do it.
Can't say I'm surprised that a Peyton fanboy is defending a known playoff choker with two of the most embarrassing one-and-dones in playoff history, though.
What's hilarious is you guys waiting until after the game to post this thread. Not a peep out of you or derp calling for a statue pocket QB before the game.
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 05:01 PM
Yeah Jackson clearly isn’t the answer but neither is the Down syndrome face guinea. He’s been a shitty QB in the regular season and playoffs outside of one 4 game exception.
i dont know how that's "clear"... he just played his 2nd NFL season and is going to be the league MVP. his passing improved by miles from last year (led the league in TD passes during the season). no reason to see why he cant continue to improve. their only halfway decent WR was a rookie (hollywood).
AaronY
01-12-2020, 05:01 PM
Flacco isn’t in his prime anymore. He’s absolutely terrible now. Do you think the Niners should bring Joe Montana back to start next week because of all his playoff success?
:lol
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 05:03 PM
i dont know how that's "clear"... he just played his 2nd NFL season and is going to be the league MVP. his passing improved by miles from last year. no reason to see why he cant continue to improve.
We’ve seen this before. Gimmicky pavement ape has a lot of short term success as a run first QB, everyone declares him the great black hope, and within 2-3 years he can’t get a starting job again.
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 05:07 PM
spurstalk seems to think that every team that doesnt have an all-time great qb like brady/rodgers/brees/mahomes is doomed for mediocrity and shouldnt be taken seriously until they land one.
and really, outside of brady, its not like those guys have been cashing in the superbowls. rodgers has 1. brees has 1. peyton had 2*.
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 05:12 PM
We’ve seen this before. Gimmicky pavement ape has a lot of short term success as a run first QB, everyone declares him the great black hope, and within 2-3 years he can’t get a starting job again.
who are the guys you are thinking of that were declared the great black hope?
all i can really think of are RG3 (rookie of the year who took those skins to the playoffs, and then shanahan broke him. he hasnt been the same athlete since that surgery) and kaep. that whole niners team collapsed around kaep though
otherwise i can easily point to russell wilson as exactly the kind of guy you (and spurstalk) was writing off as another gimmick who wouldnt last. now he's an elite qb. mike vick wasn't going to lose his job anytime soon before his legal issues, and then he came back and up put a historic season with the eagles too. as much as we bag on cam, injuries have played a big role in his demise, too. he was always flawed but had been an above average player for the better part of a decade
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 05:23 PM
who are the guys you are thinking of that were declared the great black hope?
all i can really think of are RG3 (rookie of the year who took those skins to the playoffs, and then shanahan broke him. he hasnt been the same athlete since that surgery) and kaep. that whole niners team collapsed around kaep though
otherwise i can easily point to russell wilson as exactly the kind of guy you (and spurstalk) was writing off as another gimmick who wouldnt last. now he's an elite qb. mike vick wasn't going to lose his job anytime soon before his legal issues, and then he came back and up put a historic season with the eagles too. as much as we bag on cam, injuries have played a big role in his demise, too. he was always flawed but had been an above average player for the better part of a decade
Mike Vick’s “historic season” ended in an early playoff exit when he shat himself. He’s a great example of a dual threat QB failing to do anything other than put up cool stats.
Injuries play a role because of their play style. It’s not some sort of bad luck that the QBs you listed have injury issues while Tom Brady and Brees play into their 40s.
I also wouldn’t compare Jackson to Wilson, Wilson has always been pass first since he entered the NFL. Jackson is never going to be a pass first QB. He’s too stupid and innacurate.
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 05:30 PM
Mike Vick’s “historic season” ended in an early playoff exit when he shat himself. He’s a great example of a dual threat QB failing to do anything other than put up cool stats.
Injuries play a role because of their play style. It’s not some sort of bad luck that the QBs you listed have injury issues while Tom Brady and Brees play into their 40s.
i didnt say anything about their injuries being bad luck. i've argued this exactly point on this forum in discussions with that shithead avante. but your point didnt seem to be that you thought jackson is going to get injured. you said said he's not good enough. thats different.
again, who are these great black hopes that we've seen before? just seems like a very small sample size
I also wouldn’t compare Jackson to Wilson, Wilson has always been pass first since he entered the NFL. Jackson is never going to be a pass first QB. He’s too stupid and innacurate.
:lmao oh man, going quote hunting for this one is gonna be good
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 05:38 PM
i didnt say anything about their injuries being bad luck. i've argued this exactly point on this forum in discussions with that shithead avante. but your point didnt seem to be that you thought jackson is going to get injured. you said said he's not good enough. thats different.
again, who are these great black hopes that we've seen before? just seems like a very small sample size
:lmao oh man, going quote hunting for this one is gonna be good
Who are these great black hopes who’s careers were ultimately shortened?
Cam Newton
Mike Vick
Kaepernick
Cawnbread Griffin III
Vince Young (we heard nonstop about how he was a “WINNER!!!”)
Curious Geno
Terrell Pryor
As for differences between Russell Wilson and Lamar - Wilson scored a 28 on the wonderlic, Lamar Jackson scored a 13. One had the brain power to turn into a cerebral passer, the other doesn’t.
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 06:45 PM
:lmao geno and Pryor?
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 07:19 PM
:lmao geno and Pryor?
Both had wonderlic scores higher than Lamar Jackson’s :lol
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 07:30 PM
It's only January but this might hold as the stupidest opinion for 2020
Cuck ankle biting
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 07:32 PM
Jackson did not choke. I've seen that take on Twitter and the only ones saying it are dummies and suspected racists.
Confirmation bias for you.
Jackson choked, bruh. Did you even watch the game?
spurraider21
01-12-2020, 07:53 PM
Both had wonderlic scores higher than Lamar Jackson’s :lol
The original goalposts was guys that had big early nfl success... only Vince Young really fits from that list. But Lamar is better both as a runner and passer. I think it’s a very lazy and basically full shtick analysis to say this black qb is cooked because we’ve seen other black QBs fade
Will Hunting
01-12-2020, 07:59 PM
The original goalposts was guys that had big early nfl success... only Vince Young really fits from that list. But Lamar is better both as a runner and passer. I think it’s a very lazy and basically full shtick analysis to say this black qb is cooked because we’ve seen other black QBs fade
No, I’m saying he’s cooked because other QBs who prefer to run instead of pass have failed.
I also said from the get go Lamar Jackson’s stupidity will prevent him from developing into a good passer. Call that racist if you want but scoring 13/50 on a test where literally bumbling in random answers would net you 12-13 correct answers on average is indicative of someone who’s borderline retarded, not someone who reads defenses well. Find me a successful passer in the NFL who scored that poorly on the wonderlic.
Blake
01-12-2020, 08:32 PM
Cuck ankle biting
It wouldn't have mattered who said it.
Blake
01-12-2020, 08:33 PM
Confirmation bias for you.
Jackson choked, bruh. Did you even watch the game?
BUT FLACCO WOULD HAVE CLUTCHED UP
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 08:38 PM
BUT FLACCO WOULD HAVE CLUTCHED UP
What Everclear song did you listen to right after your wife cucked you?
Spurtacular
01-12-2020, 09:13 PM
It wouldn't have mattered who said it.
It certainly didn't in this case.
MultiTroll
01-12-2020, 10:51 PM
For the StupidPhuk Convention:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/player-highlights/0ap3000001096081/Lamar-Jackson-s-best-plays-vs-Titans-Divisional-Round
KobesAchilles
01-12-2020, 11:22 PM
I mean Flacco sucks majorly :lol
But yeah it was pretty obvious Tennessee was going to win. Both teams do the same thing, run first and have a passing game as a compliment. I just thought the 1-2 game of Henry and Tannehill was better than the solo play of Jackson.
The only difference in the game was that Tennessee knew their QB has limitations and had him only throw 14 times while Roman for some reason thought Jackson could actually throw the ball and had him throw 59 times. Shockingly stupid tbh
Blake
01-12-2020, 11:46 PM
It certainly didn't in this case.
So you agree.
Lol derp.
MultiTroll
01-12-2020, 11:46 PM
Mike Vick’s “historic season” ended in an early playoff exit when he shat himself. He’s a great example of a dual threat QB failing to do anything other than put up cool stats.
Injuries play a role because of their play style. It’s not some sort of bad luck that the QBs you listed have injury issues while Tom Brady and Brees play into their 40s.
I also wouldn’t compare Jackson to Wilson, Wilson has always been pass first since he entered the NFL. Jackson is never going to be a pass first QB. He’s too stupid and innacurate.
Ya when the receivers drop the pass it's the black QBs fault.
Clipper Nation
01-12-2020, 11:52 PM
For the StupidPhuk Convention:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/player-highlights/0ap3000001096081/Lamar-Jackson-s-best-plays-vs-Titans-Divisional-Round
:lol "If you ignore all the ducks he threw and only look at his best plays, he did great!"
MultiTroll
01-13-2020, 12:03 AM
:lol "If you ignore all the ducks he threw and only look at his best plays, he did great!"
Sure, post all the ducks he threw.
Ignore all the points lost to butterfingers receivers.
Spurtacular
01-13-2020, 12:49 AM
So you agree.
Lol derp.
So you agree that you're a worthless cuck
Lol blake
Spurtacular
01-13-2020, 12:50 AM
I mean Flacco sucks majorly :lol
But yeah it was pretty obvious Tennessee was going to win. Both teams do the same thing, run first and have a passing game as a compliment. I just thought the 1-2 game of Henry and Tannehill was better than the solo play of Jackson.
The only difference in the game was that Tennessee knew their QB has limitations and had him only throw 14 times while Roman for some reason thought Jackson could actually throw the ball and had him throw 59 times. Shockingly stupid tbh
It's amazing to me that they suddenly made Jackson a throw-first QB.
spurraider21
01-13-2020, 01:54 AM
lamar choked, but i'd also say greg roman shit the bed by having 59 pass attempts, which was by far their season high. in their 12 game win streak leading up to this weekend, they only exceeded 30 pass attempts twice with a high of 33
the game wasnt really getting out of reach until late in the 3rd quarter. i get that ingram was banged up (and thats a big deal) but their RBs only had 9 carries all game. thats absurd. i know that sometimes reid prematurely abandons the run and calls a shitty game, but theres zero excuse for the ravens to do that
florige
01-13-2020, 08:37 AM
lamar choked, but i'd also say greg roman shit the bed by having 59 pass attempts, which was by far their season high. in their 12 game win streak leading up to this weekend, they only exceeded 30 pass attempts twice with a high of 33
the game wasnt really getting out of reach until late in the 3rd quarter. i get that ingram was banged up (and thats a big deal) but their RBs only had 9 carries all game. thats absurd. i know that sometimes reid prematurely abandons the run and calls a shitty game, but theres zero excuse for the ravens to do that
For some reason the whole team plus the coaches seemed to had abandoned the entire game plan and fell into an all out panic mode after they fell behind 7-0. :bang
DAF86
01-13-2020, 01:50 PM
I mean Flacco sucks majorly :lol
But yeah it was pretty obvious Tennessee was going to win. Both teams do the same thing, run first and have a passing game as a compliment. I just thought the 1-2 game of Henry and Tannehill was better than the solo play of Jackson.
The only difference in the game was that Tennessee knew their QB has limitations and had him only throw 14 times while Roman for some reason thought Jackson could actually throw the ball and had him throw 59 times. Shockingly stupid tbh
If the ones that would have gone ahead were the Ravens instead of the Titans, the one that would have thrown more passes is Tannehill. Is all relative.
Blake
01-13-2020, 03:30 PM
So you agree that you're a worthless cuck
Lol blake
5X ST MVP I SAIIIIIID
monosylab1k
01-13-2020, 03:35 PM
5X ST MVP I SAIIIIIID
Imagine being pathetic enough to give yourself an award on Spurstalk :lmao
Oh wait, I used to do that all the time :lol goddammit
MultiTroll
01-13-2020, 03:52 PM
^^ ST self award winners:
https://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/532286/900.jpg
KobesAchilles
01-13-2020, 08:59 PM
If the ones that would have gone ahead were the Ravens instead of the Titans, the one that would have thrown more passes is Tannehill. Is all relative.
It was 14-6 at halftime. Not exactly an insurmountable lead there. I doubt Tannehill would’ve thrown the ball 60 times tbh. I don’t think Vrabel has ever had a QB throw 60 times in his head coaching career.
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