The reason Virginia turned blue and gave big government Dems power to attack American rights

[Nathan89]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/us/virginia-elections-democrats-republicans.html

People with no ties to America came in and decided a restrictive government is what will make this country great. Because there isn't a long list of shit hole countries that they could have went to that already have these restrictive policies they desire. Leftism is simply a selfish ideology.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1219283615114317824?s=20

Are immigrants attracted to the racist leftism that's seemingly rapidly growing?

[spurraider21]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/us/virginia-elections-democrats-republicans.html

People with no ties to America came in and decided a restrictive government is what will make this country great. Because there isn't a long list of shit hole countries that they could have went to that already have these restrictive policies they desire. Leftism is simply a selfish ideology.
:lol if a party's success depends on a state having a 90% white population, maybe the party is doing a shitty job in appealing to a broader base


Mr. Katkuri always thought he would be a Republican in America.

"Taxes, family values, these things are closer to our hearts," he said. He likes Mitt Romney.

But when he got his citizenship in March and started talking with his friends about whom to vote for in the first election of his life, he realized it had to be Democrats. Mr. Trump helped him decide.

"The way he speaks, you get the feeling that you are separate," Mr. Katkuri said. "This is not what we signed up for in America."

[Reck]

Or maybe because you have lunatics like the ones in the protests geared out with guns and full on militia defending the guns the democrats won't take.

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1219283615114317824?s=20

Are immigrants attracted to the racist leftism that's seemingly rapidly growing?lol white guys

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1219283615114317824?s=20

Are immigrants attracted to the racist leftism that's seemingly rapidly growing?

[Nathan89]

:lol if a party's success depends on a state having a 90% white population, maybe the party is doing a shitty job in appealing to a broader base

So he discussed it with his leftist friends that studies show don't take in news from opposing views?

[spurraider21]

:lmao imagine these immigrants actually agree with you on policy but because you shit on them 24/7 they vote against you, and them you blame libs/immigration for how their vote went

[spurraider21]

So he discussed it with his leftist friends that studies show don't take in news from opposing views?
you're operating under the assumption that his friends are leftists. he cites specifically to trump's rhetoric as to why he couldnt vote for him

[Nathan89]

Popular way to appeal to people that don't like American rights. Be against American rights.

"Why don't just do that to appeal to them?"

[spurraider21]

:lol if a party's success depends on a state having a 90% white population, maybe the party is doing a shitty job in appealing to a broader base
i mean trump had been a registered democrat for some time until they elected a black person and then he immediately switched his registration to republican

[spurraider21]

Popular way to appeal to people that don't like American rights. Be against American rights.

"Why don't just do that to appeal to them?"
all the republicans had to do was not consistently shit on immigrants, and then these immigrants with conservative values would actually vote for them :lol

just look at your own post history tbh, just nonstop complaining about immigrants ruining everything

america is unique because of its stance on immigration/naturalization, etc. before america, countries were just ethnic nation-states. the US was a trailblazer because they rejected that concept

[SpursforSix]

Blue vigina sounds gross. I think pink is the preferred color. But red virgina definitely better than blue virgina.

[Nathan89]

:lmao imagine these immigrants actually agree with you on policy but because you shit on them 24/7 they vote against you, and them you blame libs/immigration for how their vote went

No, I call them out after they move to a unique country and try to vote in bullshit that they could have got from numerous other countries. I'm sorry I can't appeal to them by hating American rights and offering free healthcare to everyone in the world like Dems.

Also I'm fine with immigrants. I'll take in the highly skilled immigrants that will make this country competitive all day long.

[ChumpDumper]

i mean trump had been a registered democrat for some time until they elected a black person and then he immediately switched his registration to republicanAnd Nathan was a BernieBro until whatever head injury or other trauma happened to him.

[spurraider21]

step 1: blame immigrants for all your problems

step 2: immigrants aren't particularly receptive to what they hear in step 1, so they vote against you

step 3: blame immigration policies for their votes (functionally repeating step 1, and continuing cycle)

[Nathan89]

all the republicans had to do was not consistently shit on immigrants, and then these immigrants with conservative values would actually vote for them :lol

just look at your own post history tbh, just nonstop complaining about immigrants ruining everything

america is unique because of its stance on immigration/naturalization, etc. before america, countries were just ethnic nation-states. the US was a trailblazer because they rejected that concept

Sorry Republicans have not been saying anything about legal immigrants. Take your one sided media narratives elsewhere.

[Nathan89]

Republicans routinely talk about illegals. You are having a bad faith discussion by conflating that reality with legal immigrants. Mainstream media regularly does the same thing. Which is why they are earning their moniker.

[Blake]

Popular way to appeal to people that don't like American rights. Be against American rights.

"Why don't just do that to appeal to them?"

Wut the fuck are you babbling about

[spurraider21]

Sorry Republicans have not been saying anything about legal immigrants. Take your one sided media narratives elsewhere.


Republicans routinely talk about illegals. You are having a bad faith discussion by conflating that reality with legal immigrants. Mainstream media regularly does the same thing. Which is why they are earning their moniker.
:lol https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280859

:lol moniker

[Nathan89]

:lol https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280859

:lol moniker

So? Republicans only virtually only discuss illegals. You say they regularly shit on immigrants. That's false.

[spurraider21]

So? Republicans only virtually only discuss illegals. You say they regularly shit on immigrants. That's false.
:lol virtually

you regularly shit on immigrants, even of the legal variety. you set higher standards for them than you do of natural-born americans. americans on welfare? it is what it is. (legal) immigrants on welfare? ruining our country and we need to raise standards

[spurraider21]

Illegals are a problem. Low quality legal immigrants are a different problem. Rate of immigration can be seen as another problem considering the discussion in the other thread that Americans need to adapt to some other culture.

:lol rate of immigration is a problem, irrespective of the "quality" of the legal immigrants

but no, that is just me conflating

trump remarks about not wanting (legal) immigrants from "shithole countries" but nah, thats just the media earning muh moniker

[spurraider21]

Just because European immigrants turned out great doesn't mean immigrants from everywhere will be.
:lol this is me conflating legal and illegal immigration!

[boutons_deux]

American rights? :lol

It's a about BigGun profits and BigGun/NRA/GOA lying, paranoid propaganda to dickless assholes, and total perversion of the 2nd Amendment

[DMC]

step 1: blame immigrants for all your problems

step 2: immigrants aren't particularly receptive to what they hear in step 1, so they vote against you

step 3: blame immigration policies for their votes (functionally repeating step 1, and continuing cycle)

Speaking of strawman

Philo only wants to be pedantic when he's cornered, then he wants to go into an exegesis of every comment.

[spurraider21]

Speaking of strawman

Philo only wants to be pedantic when he's cornered, then he wants to go into an exegesis of every comment.
hyperbole to be sure. i was assuming it wouldnt be taken literally

[AaronY]

And Nathan was a BernieBro until whatever head injury or other trauma happened to him.

He got "economic anxiety"

[Nathan89]

:lol virtually

you regularly shit on immigrants, even of the legal variety. you set higher standards for them than you do of natural-born americans. americans on welfare? it is what it is. (legal) immigrants on welfare? ruining our country and we need to raise standards

Of course I set higher standards for people that we have the option of not allowing here. It would be moronic to do otherwise.

[Nathan89]

:lol this is me conflating legal and illegal immigration!

Fact. Some countries have high rates on incest. People Dems would welcome with open arms so they can be dependent on their big government policies.

[ChumpDumper]

Fact. Some countries have high rates on incest. People Dems would welcome with open arms so they can be dependent on their big government policies.You mean like the Windsors?

[Spurminator]

So? Republicans only virtually only discuss illegals. You say they regularly shit on immigrants. That's false.

Here's you shitting on legal immigrants for voting in the first post of this thread:


People with no ties to America came in and decided a restrictive government is what will make this country great.

[Blake]

You mean like the Windsors?

Lol

[Nathan89]

:lol rate of immigration is a problem, irrespective of the "quality" of the legal immigrants

but no, that is just me conflating

trump remarks about not wanting (legal) immigrants from "shithole countries" but nah, thats just the media earning muh moniker

Yes, if one values the current system in America then logically a rapid influx of people from other countries that don't value that is a problem.

The media has conflated illegals with legal immigrants on a regular basis. Yes, they earning their moniker with regards to this topic.

Once again Republicans basically always discuss illegals. You quoting me stating factual realities isn't shittingon immigrants.

[Nathan89]

:lol https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280859

:lol moniker

Also if you think Republicans limiting immigration based on those that won't need public resources to care for them then we really shouldn't be having a discussion because that's absurd.

Same people that want to remind us that this country was created by immigrants refuse to acknowledge that the immigrants didn't come here to be taken care of by the government. So now Republicans wanting immigrants that are not reliant on government is egregious. Absolutely shitting on immigrants with policies like that.

[Nathan89]

Here's you shitting on legal immigrants for voting in the first post of this thread:

That's reality. Frame that as shitting on immigrants if you want.

[CosmicCowboy]

Also if you think Republicans limiting immigration based on those that won't need public resources to care for them then we really shouldn't be having a discussion because that's absurd.

Same people that want to remind us that this country was created by immigrants refuse to acknowledge that the immigrants didn't come here to be taken care of by the government. So now Republicans wanting immigrants that are not reliant on government is egregious. Absolutely shitting on immigrants with policies like that.

There wasn't any government safety net when this country was founded by immigrants. They either worked or starved.

[spurraider21]

Yes, if one values the current system in America then logically a rapid influx of people from other countries that don't value that is a problem.

The media has conflated illegals with legal immigrants on a regular basis. Yes, they earning their moniker with regards to this topic.

Once again Republicans basically always discuss illegals. You quoting me stating factual realities isn't shittingon immigrants.
i linked you to a thread where the OP posted an article about republicans trying to limit legal immigration :lol

[Nathan89]

i linked you to a thread where the OP posted an article about republicans trying to limit legal immigration :lol

"The rule means many green card and visa applicants could be turned down if they have low incomes or little education, and have used benefits such as most forms of Medicaid, food stamps, and housing vouchers, because they'd be deemed more likely to need government assistance in the future."

The audacity. Them dirty Republicans are absolutely shitting on immigrants by not welcoming immigrants that will be dependent on big government programs.

[Nathan89]

Imagine being so far gone that expecting immigrants to be able to care for themselves is shitting on immigrants.

[Nathan89]

Let the record reflect that article discusses the crack down on illegals in Mississippi factories that resulted in the employment of hundreds of black Americans. The left was outrage by the crack down. Is this how we cater to immigrants? By throwing Americans under the bus? When mainstream media regularly conflated illegals and immigrants you pretty much have no other choice.

[AaronY]

Yes, if one values the current system in America then logically a rapid influx of people from other countries that don't value that is a problem.

The media has conflated illegals with legal immigrants on a regular basis. Yes, they earning their moniker with regards to this topic.

Once again Republicans basically always discuss illegals. You quoting me stating factual realities isn't shittingon immigrants.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you

[Blake]

Oh hey goal post shifts and straw men.

[Spurminator]

That's reality. Frame that as shitting on immigrants if you want.

Then we agree that you're full of shit when you claim your issue is with illegals. Your problem is non white people, even those who have gone through the process of becoming citizens.

Why hide your racism so poorly? Just own it, racist.

[TheGreatYacht]

Nathan89 if you wanna solve the immigration problem find the root cause of the problem and fix it. Spread the truth. Bitching about Democrats and Republicans ain't gonna accomplish shit.

Both parties are controlled opposition and have masters they obey. Acknowledge and accept the truth behind the mass migration agenda, who is behind it, etc otherwise keep shoving your head in the sand.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278938&page=8

[Trainwreck2100]

lol white guys

lol, loling at white guys

that's how you end up getting shot when you just minding your business

[Blake]

lol, loling at white guys

that's how you end up getting shot when you just minding your business

Especially if you're wearing a hoodie and carrying a bag of Skittles