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DMC

11-21-2021, 08:01 PM

I'll wait for the sequel...The Biden Waves

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koriwhat

11-21-2021, 08:08 PM

A close up look at Trash's mass homicide "a joke"

“THE FIRST WAVE” SHOWS WHAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN OF COVID-19

If you have survived the pandemic without going inside a Covid ward,

you will likely be stunned by the grim intimacy of Matthew Heineman’s new documentary.

https://theintercept.com/2021/11/20/the-first-wave-covid-documentary

:lmao Not wasting my time on your propaganda you mentally ill reject. :tu

I'd rather keep wasting time talking shit to yall.

Winehole23

11-22-2021, 03:33 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEulKkoWYAMMQmB?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23

11-22-2021, 03:33 AM

54% fully vaxxed

ElNono

11-22-2021, 04:46 AM

54% fully vaxxed

What I want to see from the fully vaxxed group is hospitalization/death numbers, that's the measure of vaccine efficacy.

hater

11-22-2021, 07:43 AM

What I want to see from the fully vaxxed group is hospitalization/death numbers, that's the measure of vaccine efficacy.

Younwill have to look at 1st world countries data like Israel and Gibraltar tbqh.

3rd world shitholes like USA would never publish those #s

pgardn

11-22-2021, 11:45 AM

Younwill have to look at 1st world countries data like Israel and Gibraltar tbqh.

3rd world shitholes like USA would never publish those #s

Like Israel is taking numbers from its West Bank Palestinian population.
Your such a dumbass...

Winehole23

11-22-2021, 12:03 PM

What I want to see from the fully vaxxed group is hospitalization/death numbers, that's the measure of vaccine efficacy.from what little I've seen recently, deaths and hospitalizations among fully vaxxed run ~20-25 times lower than unvaxxed in Ohio. I'll try to find the bit I saw.

Winehole23

11-22-2021, 12:12 PM

boutons_deux

11-22-2021, 12:14 PM

from what little I've seen recently, deaths and hospitalizations among fully vaxxed run ~20-25 times lower than unvaxxed in Ohio. I'll try to find the bit I saw.

about 90% of covid dead now are unvaxxed.

4x more deaths in Trash counties than Biden counties

Now its the Trash-Made Pandemic of the UnVaxxed

pgardn

11-22-2021, 12:27 PM

these 2021 OHIO Department of health numbers are reported through July 27th, so the ratio of breakthough hospitalized/dead might be higher now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEz4heeXwAMsZvS?format=jpg&name=large

And this is with the non vaxxed actually telling the hospital through the shame of not being vaccinated, that they are. Possibly thinking they will get better treatment. (Which is another reason why we should treat everyone equally once they enter the hospital) "put them at the end of the line or dont treat them" has not gone unnoticed by these unvaxxed folks coming in Im pretty sure.
Plenty of people saying they are vaxxed are not. Cant reproduce any card or evidence.

boutons_deux

11-22-2021, 02:31 PM

https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2j4RKJPsrb5Ln3aldNQxBYPX9uUD77vVwu7fqjbHlEBsJof7gi KXxzj5E6tI66XCBMJGa6B3-is6ipVYsAAfugExrxHh9Ua4HvmG7diAWhmB-wmO3QzEDxpmQPKpLMtUzJJ1pepTciv_WQImlfjKwo6nE0nsOu7 8qhK1qksRQQ=s0-d-e1-ft#https://media.newyorker.com/photos/619bba6fd8ed5856423e21cc/1:1/w_1040%2Cc_limit/Boro-Fauci-Thanksgiving.jpg

Fauci Urges Americans to Use COVID as Excuse to Skip Thanksgiving with Horrible Relatives

“covid-19 could get you off the hook this year,” he said.

“Consider this a doctor’s note from me.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fauci-urges-americans-to-use-covid-as-excuse-to-skip-thanksgiving-with-horrible-relatives

SnakeBoy

11-22-2021, 02:32 PM

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hater

11-22-2021, 02:43 PM

1461255772621484041

Easy solution. Always keep a covid infected needle with you. In case you need urgent medical help, shoot yourself with it. Youll get best care in the world.

SnakeBoy

11-22-2021, 05:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bp7AqMbk_8&t=101s

ElNono

11-22-2021, 05:23 PM

Younwill have to look at 1st world countries data like Israel and Gibraltar tbqh.

3rd world shitholes like USA would never publish those #s

Actually, hospitalization/death numbers is exactly what the CDC collects. It doesn't collect non-hospitalization/non-death numbers...

ElNono

11-22-2021, 05:24 PM

hater

11-22-2021, 05:26 PM

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Fauci is such a riot, tbh

Cringy post

ElNono

11-22-2021, 05:28 PM

^^^ you sound upset, wanna talk about it?

hater

11-22-2021, 05:35 PM

^^^ you sound upset, wanna talk about it?

Not at all. Cringy post is cringe. Thats all :tu

ElNono

11-22-2021, 05:41 PM

Not at all. Cringy post is cringe. Thats all :tu

Oh ok :lol

DMC

11-22-2021, 06:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bp7AqMbk_8&t=101s

Free camp? Sign me up.

DMC

11-22-2021, 06:12 PM

Fauci is an older Taub. They even look alike.

hater

11-22-2021, 06:30 PM

:lmao

https://twitter.com/maddishmaat/status/1462202815980261377?s=19

hater

11-22-2021, 06:33 PM

:lol

https://twitter.com/NellieEliza/status/1462926239891664906?s=19

SnakeBoy

11-22-2021, 07:02 PM

:lol

https://twitter.com/NellieEliza/status/1462926239891664906?s=19

It's easy to have a low covid rate if you don't test

steak n eggs

11-22-2021, 07:05 PM

It's easy to have a low covid rate if you don't test

I just stopped watching the news. Voila, no more pandemic.

Blake

11-22-2021, 07:34 PM

:lmao

https://twitter.com/maddishmaat/status/1462202815980261377?s=19

They're targeting the bars and night clubs, just like they did here.

hater

11-22-2021, 08:40 PM

It's easy to have a low covid rate if you don't test

And genius :tu

hater

11-22-2021, 08:40 PM

I just stopped watching the news. Voila, no more pandemic.

Genius :tu

Younmust be enjoying life :tu

ElNono

11-22-2021, 08:48 PM

Free camp? Sign me up.

what's a covid suspect, tbh?

ChumpDumper

11-22-2021, 09:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bp7AqMbk_8&t=101s

:tu

Also, :lmao you watch something called "Timcast."

spurraider21

11-22-2021, 09:05 PM

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Ef-man

11-22-2021, 09:26 PM

SnakeBoy

11-22-2021, 10:27 PM

Cuck Ross

11-22-2021, 10:44 PM

hater

11-22-2021, 11:15 PM

:lmao Falsuchin

https://twitter.com/gdemaneuf/status/1462997153794592770?s=19

ElNono

11-22-2021, 11:23 PM

ElNono

11-22-2021, 11:26 PM

:lmao Falsuchin

https://twitter.com/gdemaneuf/status/1462997153794592770?s=19

:lmao conspiratards

ElNono

11-23-2021, 01:08 AM

Germans will be ‘vaccinated, cured or dead’ by spring, warns health minister

Jens Spahn rushes out extra doses of BioNTech/Pfizer shot, calls Moderna the ‘Rolls Royce’ of vaccines.

BERLIN — Germans will be "vaccinated, cured or dead" by the end of this winter, Health Minister Jens Spahn said Monday, as he rushed out extra doses of the coronavirus jab from BioNTech and Pfizer to inject into the arms of the one-third of people in the country who are still not vaccinated.

Germany is experiencing record COVID-19 caseloads in the current fourth wave of the pandemic, putting hospital intensive care units under increasing strain — with unvaccinated patients far more likely to become critically ill.

“Probably by the end of this winter pretty much everyone in Germany — as has sometimes been cynically put — will be vaccinated, cured or dead," Spahn told a hastily arranged press conference, in his starkest warning to date of the risks of holding out against vaccination.

“But this really is the case: With the very contagious Delta variant, it is very, very likely ... that anyone who is not vaccinated will over the next few months become infected and lack protection.

"In this respect, immunity is always achieved, the question is only whether it is through vaccination or infection. And we clearly recommend vaccination."

Spahn angered doctors last week by rationing scarce supplies of the vaccine devised by Mainz-based startup BioNTech, which is in favor thanks to its "Made in Germany" status, while saying no limits would apply to the distribution of doses from U.S. biotech company Moderna.

In an abrupt U-turn, he announced Monday that he was rushing out an extra six million doses of the BioNTech shot, while giving assurances that Moderna was also "a good, safe and very effective vaccine. "

"Many doctors say that BioNTech is the Mercedes among vaccines and Moderna is the Rolls Royce," said Spahn.

The Robert Koch Institute reported a record weekly incidence of 387 COVID-19 cases per 100,000 people Monday, with swathes of southern and eastern Germany shaded in purple on its color-coded map — indicating crisis levels of more than 1,000 weekly cases per 100,000 people.

https://www.politico.eu/article/jens-spahn-germany-biontech-pfizer-covid-19-vaccination/

hater

11-23-2021, 07:16 AM

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1461835823343718402?s=19

hater

11-23-2021, 07:25 AM

Germans will be ‘vaccinated, cured or dead’ by spring, warns health minister

So 99.5+% will survive :tu

Winehole23

11-23-2021, 08:45 AM

Long COVID related: brain microbleeds, clinical lung and heart disease

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Winehole23

11-23-2021, 09:03 AM

In a systematic review and meta-analysis1 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-021-00593-7#ref-CR1), Shubham Misra and colleagues detailed the occurrence of syndromic expression of neurological involvement in COVID-19 and probed the association of neurological indices with disease severity and mortality in patients with COVID-19. By analysing data from 55 countries, they identified 41 neurological manifestations that can occur in conjunction with COVID-19. Up to one-third of individuals with COVID-19 were estimated to exhibit at least one of these manifestations.

Differences in the prevalence of the various neurological symptoms were observed between older (aged 60 years or more) and young (aged less than 18 years) subpopulations. Acute confusion or delirium, fatigue and myalgia tended to dominate in the older group. In patients aged under 18 years, the most common neurological symptoms were impairment of smell and/or taste and headache, and seizures were also noted in some individuals. Alarmingly, mortality in patients with COVID-19 who had one or more neurological manifestations was found to be 27% and was especially high in patients aged 60 years or more. The finding that the prevalence of stroke was 1.2% in people with COVID-19, compared with only 0.2% in those with influenza, is also concerning1 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-021-00593-7#ref-CR1).

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41582-021-00593-7/MediaObjects/41582_2021_593_Fig1_HTML.pngnature.com/articles/s41582-021-00593-7

Winehole23

11-23-2021, 10:44 AM

COVID interrupting in-person schooling again

COVID surge leads Burnsville-Eagan-Savage schools to go virtual (https://www.twincities.com/2021/11/22/covid-19-surge-leads-burnsville-eagan-savage-schools-to-switch-to-virtual-learning/)

pgardn

11-23-2021, 11:45 AM

Covid lab leak theory blows wide open – leaked documents show samples WERE sent to Wuhan
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1524762/Covid-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-virus-origin-china-new-document-laos-bat-samples

The documents suggest that in September scientists discovered a viral strain called Banal-52 in Laos.

This coronavirus strain shares 96.8 percent of its genome with COVID-19.

Shame on you for pushing this conspiracy theory. Bats fly from Laos to Wuhan on a daily basis. DARPA rejected Eco Health’s dangerous proposal and we know Eco Health wouldn’t go to China for funding and even if they did we know China would never fund it. Cmon man.

Oh this is huge!
Its one of hundreds of Coronaviruses
Its it Covid ? 19 nope, not even close.
ohhh noes.... 96.8 %

Cuck and Snake Ross share 99% DNA compatibility with Chimps. (as do the rest of us)
So look for them in a Zoo near you. They will be the ones responsible for throwing their fecal material at you when you stare at them.

fkn dorks...

Snake is making huge lurches at attaining Derpian Status.
And Cuck Sanity... is what he is.

Cuck Ross

11-23-2021, 12:58 PM

Oh this is huge!
Its one of hundreds of Coronaviruses
Its it Covid ? 19 nope, not even close.
ohhh noes.... 96.8 %

Cuck and Snake Ross share 99% DNA compatibility with Chimps. (as do the rest of us)
So look for them in a Zoo near you. They will be the ones responsible for throwing their fecal material at you when you stare at them.

fkn dorks...

Snake is making huge lurches at attaining Derpian Status.
And Cuck Sanity... is what he is.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-dr-fauci-other-officials-withheld-information-chinas-coronavirus-experiments-1652002

For half a year, Anthony Fauci (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/anthony-fauci), the nation's top infectious-disease official, and Kentucky senator and physician Rand Paul (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/rand-paul) have been locked in a battle over whether the National Institutes of Health funded dangerous "gain of function" research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) and whether that research could have played a role in the pandemic. Against Senator Paul's aggressive questioning over three separate hearings, Dr. Fauci adamantly denied the charge. "The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology," he said in their first fracas on May 11, a position he has steadfastly maintained.
Recently, however, a tranche of documents surfaced that complicate Dr. Fauci's denials. The documents, obtained by Freedom of Information Act requests, show that the NIH was funding research at the Wuhan lab that involved manipulating coronaviruses in ways that could have made them more transmissible and deadly to humans—work that arguably fits the definition of gain-of-function. The documents establish that top NIH officials were concerned that the work may have crossed a line the U.S. government had drawn against funding such risky research. The funding came from the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which Dr. Fauci heads.
The resistance among Dr. Fauci and other NIH officials to be forthcoming with information that could inform the debate over the origins of COVID-19 illustrates the old Watergate-era saw that the coverup is often worse than the crime. There's no evidence that the experiments in question had any direct bearing on the pandemic. In the past, Dr. Fauci has made strong arguments for why this type of research, albeit risky, was necessary to prevent future pandemics, and he could have done so again. But the NIH has dragged its feet over FOIA requests on the matter, handing over documents only after The Intercept took the agency to court.

The apparent eagerness to conceal the documents has only raised suspicions about the controversial research and put the NIH on the defensive. Fauci told ABC (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/abc), "neither I nor Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the NIH, lied or misled about what we've done." The episode is a self-inflicted wound that has further eroded trust in the nation's public health officials at a time when that trust is most important.

While Dr. Fauci takes the political heat, the revelations center on another figure in this drama: Peter Daszak, president of the private research firm EcoHealth Alliance, which received the $3 million NIH grant for coronavirus research and subcontracted the gain-of-function experiments to the Wuhan lab. The activities of Daszak and EcoHealth before the pandemic and during it show a startling lack of transparency about their work with coronaviruses and raise questions about what more there may be to learn.
Under Wraps

From the start, Daszak has worked vigorously to discredit any notion that the pandemic could have been the result of a lab accident. When the media was first grappling with the basics of the situation, Daszak organized a letter in the prestigious medical journal The Lancet from 27 scientists, to "strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin," and got himself appointed to the WHO (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/who) team investigating COVID origins, where he successfully argued that there was no need to look into the WIV's archives.

What Daszak didn't reveal at the time was that the WIV had been using the NIH grant money to genetically engineer dozens of novel coronaviruses discovered in bat samples, and that he knew it was entirely possible that one of those samples had contained SARS-CoV-2 and had infected a researcher, as he conceded to the journal Science in a November 17 interview (https://www.science.org/content/article/we-ve-done-nothing-wrong-ecohealth-leader-fights-charges-his-research-helped-spark-covid-19): "Of course it's possible—things have happened in the past."
The NIH fought for more than a year to keep details about the EcoHealth grant under wraps. The 528 pages of proposals, conditions, emails, and progress reports revealed that EcoHealth had funded experiments at the WIV that were considerably riskier than the ones previously disclosed.
The trouble began in May 2016, when EcoHealth informed the NIH that it wanted to conduct a series of new experiments during the third year of its five-year grant. One proposed producing "chimeras" made from one SARS-like virus and the spike proteins (which the virus uses to infiltrate animal cells) of others, and testing them in "humanized" mice, which had been genetically engineered to have human-like receptors in their lungs, making them better stand-ins for people. When such novel viruses are created, there is always a risk they will turn out to be dangerous pathogens in their own right.
Another risky experiment involved the MERS virus. Although MERS is lethal—it kills 35 percent of those who catch it—it's not highly transmissible, which is partly why it has claimed fewer than 900 lives so far. EcoHealth wanted to graft the spikes of other related coronaviruses onto MERS to see how that changed its abilities.
Both experiments seemed to cross the gain-of-function line. NIH program officers said as much, sending Daszak a letter asking him to explain why he thought they didn't.
In his reply (https://www.science.org/do/10.1126/science.acx9497/full/_04_rationaleforrecombinantvirusexperiments.pdf), Daszak argued that because the new spikes being added to the chimeras were more distantly related to SARS and MERS than their original spikes, he didn't anticipate any enhanced pathogenicity or infectiousness. That was a key distinction that arguably made them exempt from the NIH's prohibition on gain-of-function experiments. But, of course, one never knows; as a precaution, he offered that if any of the chimeric viruses began to grow 10 times better than the natural viruses, which would suggest enhanced fitness, EcoHealth would immediately stop all experiments, inform the NIH program officers, and together they'd figure out what to do next.

The NIH accepted Daszak's terms, inserting his suggestions into the grant conditions. Scientists at WIV conducted the experiments in 2018. To their surprise, the SARS-like chimeras quickly grew 10,000 times better than the natural virus, flourishing in the lab's humanized mice and making them sicker than the original. They had the hallmarks of very dangerous pathogens.
WIV and EcoHealth did not stop the experiment as required. Nor did they let the NIH know what was going on. The results were buried in figure 35 of EcoHealth's year-four progress report, delivered in April 2018.
Did the NIH call Peter Daszak in to explain himself? It did not. There are no signs in the released documents that the NIH even noticed the alarming results. In fact, NIH signaled its enthusiasm for the project by granting EcoHealth a $7.5 million, five-year renewal in 2019. (The Trump administration suspended the grant in 2020, when EcoHealth's relationship with the WIV came under scrutiny.)

In a letter to Congress (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/congress) on October 20, the NIH's Principal Deputy Director, Lawrence Tabak, acknowledged the screwup, but he placed the blame on EcoHealth's door, citing its duty to immediately report the enhanced growth that had occurred: "EcoHealth failed to report this finding right away, as was required by the terms of the grant." In a follow-up interview with the Washington Post, NIH Director Francis Collins was more blunt: "They messed up here. There's going to be some consequences for EcoHealth." So far, the NIH has not elaborated on what those consequences might be.
As damning as the NIH grant documents are, they pale in comparison to another EcoHealth grant proposal leaked to the online investigative group DRASTIC in September. In that 2018 proposal to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, (https://drasticresearch.org/2021/09/20/1583/)a Pentagon (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/pentagon) research arm, EcoHealth sketched an elaborate plan to discover what it would take to turn a garden-variety coronavirus into a pandemic pathogen. They proposed widely sampling Chinese bats in search of new SARS-related viruses, grafting the spike proteins from those viruses onto other viruses they had in the lab to create a suite of chimeras, then, through genetic engineering, introducing mutations into those chimeras and testing them in humanized mice.
One piece of the proposal was especially Strangelovian. For years, scientists had known that adding a special type of "cleavage site" to the spike could supercharge a virus's transmissibility. Although many viruses in nature have such sites, neither SARS nor any of its cousins do. EcoHealth proposed incorporating human-optimized cleavage sites into the SARS-like viruses it discovered and testing their infectiousness. Such a cleavage site, of course, is exactly what makes SARS-CoV-2 wildly more infectious than its kin. That detail was the reason some scientists initially suspected SARS-CoV-2 might have been engineered in a lab. And while there's no proof that EcoHealth or the WIV ever actively experimented with cleavage sites—EcoHealth says that "the research was never conducted"—the proposal makes it clear that they were considering taking that step as early as 2018.

DARPA rejected (https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/hr00118s017-preempt-fp-019-pm-summary-selectable-not-recommended.pdf) the proposal, listing among its shortcomings the failures to address the risks of gain-of-function research and the lack of discussion of ethical, legal, and social issues. It was a levelheaded assessment. What's remarkable is that much of the same work that crossed a line for the Department of Defense was embraced by the National Institutes of Health.
Crisis Management ModeThe NIH and EcoHealth have asserted that none of the engineered viruses created with the NIH grant could have become SARS-CoV-2. On that, everyone agrees—the viruses are too distantly related. But the detailed recipe in the DARPA application is a blueprint for doing just that with a more closely related virus.

In September, scientists from France's Pasteur Institute announced the discovery of just such a virus—SARS-CoV-2's closest known relative—in a bat cave in Laos. Although still too distant from SARS-CoV-2 to have been the direct progenitor, and lacking the all-important cleavage site, it was a kissing cousin.
The discovery was hailed by some scientists as evidence that SARS-CoV-2 must have had a natural origin. But the plot turned in November, when another trove of NIH documents (https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21099965/gain-of-function-communications-between-ecohealth-alliance-and-niaid.pdf)—released in response to a FOIA request by the White Coat Waste Project—brought the evidence trail right to EcoHealth's doorstep.
In 2017, EcoHealth had informed the NIH that it would be shifting its focus to Laos and other countries in Southeast Asia, where the wildlife trade was more active, relying on local partner organizations to do the sample collecting and to send the samples to the WIV for their ongoing work. EcoHealth told Newsweek that it did not directly undertake or fund any of the sampling in Laos. "Any samples or results from Laos are based on WIV's work, funded through other mechanisms," says a company spokesman.

Regardless of who paid for the collecting portion of the project, it's clear that for years, a large number of bat samples from the region that harbors viruses similar to SARS-CoV-2 were sent to the WIV. In other words, EcoHealth's team was in the right place at the right time to have found things very close to SARS-CoV-2 and to have sent them to Wuhan. Because there's a lag of several years between when samples are collected and when experiments involving those viruses are published, the most recent papers from EcoHealth and the WIV date to 2015. The identity of the viruses found between 2016 and 2019 are known only to the two organizations, neither of which has been willing to share that information with the world.
A lack of evidence proves nothing, but neither does it put EcoHealth's or the WIV's actions in the early days of the pandemic in a good light. Why choose not to share valuable information on SARS-like coronaviruses with the world? Why not explain your projects and proposals and give scientists access to the unpublished virus sequences in your databases?
For whatever reason, they chose crisis-management mode instead. The WIV went into lockdown. Databases were taken offline. Daszak launched his preemptive campaign to prevent anyone from looking behind the curtain. And EcoHealth and the NIH tried hard to keep the details of their collaboration private.

Congressional inquiries focusing on Dr. Fauci and the NIH's decisions to fund unnecessarily risky research by a lab in Wuhan are probably forthcoming if, as appears increasingly likely, Republicans (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/republicans) take control of Congress after the 2022 midterms. While it's important to understand how the NIH came to use such poor judgment in its dealings with EcoHealth Alliance, that won't tell us much about the WIV's research in the months leading up to the pandemic, especially since China is not likely to open its books. Answers are more likely to lie in the records of EcoHealth Alliance. Republicans and Democrats (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/democrats) alike should be eager to find them.

Cuck Ross

11-23-2021, 12:59 PM

pgardn

11-23-2021, 01:06 PM

Not gonna read that wall of text now.

But I can tell you right now it has nothing to do with finding a Corona virus, not of the Covid 19 type. 96.8% the same, oh my!
Which is what the article that you crowed " shame on you pushing a conspiracy theory"
You just dont understand this stuff. AT ALL.

But I will bet you right now, it was not research that produced the virus that has caused the pandemic.
YOU leave the board forever. or I will . no alts. And God knows you are a man of your word.

pgardn

11-23-2021, 01:09 PM

Oh and Cuck...

Are you a chimp?

ChumpDumper

11-23-2021, 01:12 PM

Oh and Cuck...

Are you a chimp?To be fair, no chimp is stupid enough to believe Seth Rich was assassinated by Hillary Clinton after leaking emails.

Ef-man

11-23-2021, 01:16 PM

Oh and Cuck...

Are you a chimp?

I read that chimps have internet while working in Korea and are smart enough not to work 24/7, so, I doubt he is a chimp.

Cuck Ross

11-23-2021, 01:18 PM

ChumpDumper

11-23-2021, 01:19 PM

TSA won't actually leave when he loses.

Cuck Ross

11-23-2021, 01:20 PM

Ef-man

11-23-2021, 01:21 PM

TSA won't actually leave when he loses.

Yup, he will pull a Qchrisy!

Fucking welsher!

ElNono

11-23-2021, 02:17 PM

So 99.5+% will survive :tu

Likely substantially more on the fully vaccinated + booster(s) group :tu

hater

11-23-2021, 03:42 PM

Likely substantially more on the fully vaccinated + booster(s) group :tu

:tu

SnakeBoy

11-23-2021, 09:36 PM

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ElNono

11-24-2021, 12:04 AM

Coronavirus: Dutch people can order self-infection kits

It couldn't be more absurd! In the Netherlands, anyone who wants to be infected with the coronavirus can order a kit for self-infection to be delivered to their home. The kit costs 33.50 euros - you can have it in your mailbox within two to five days.

The manufacturer advertises: “You want to decide for yourself when to get infected? With the Corona-Kit you can make this choice yourself! " Infection with the kit leads to the same result as an unwanted infection - antibodies in the blood.

Contagion with coronavirus through liquid

It is infected by means of a liquid enriched with the coronavirus. There is a video guide for this. "Symptoms should appear within two to 14 days," it continues.

There is only a small subordinate sentence to warn against the risks: "Do not underestimate these risks, most people get complaints and they can still get very sick." After all: "Stay at home if you have complaints."

The provider's website is currently unavailable. An error message appears.

But why do you order such a kit? In the Netherlands, as in Switzerland, there is a recovery certificate that is valid for 180 days. This means that previously infected people have infection evidence and can also do without a vaccination.

Here in Switzerland, too, people are infected with the corona virus. The phenomenon is already known from the USA. There were parties there last year at which the guests intentionally wanted to become infected with the virus. People wanted to immunize themselves against the coronavirus in this way.

https://www.nau.ch/news/europa/coronavirus-hollander-konnen-kit-zur-selbst-infizierung-bestellen-66047311?fr=operanews

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:lol damn, this niglet Darwin is ruthless, tbh...

Winehole23

11-24-2021, 12:23 AM

Raw dogging the COVID

DarrinS

11-24-2021, 01:03 AM

Raw dogging the COVID

Not sure what this means, but no healthy person fears covid.

ElNono

11-24-2021, 02:33 AM

Not sure what this means, but no healthy person fears covid.

Not sure what the bolded means, but nobody I know fears covid, healthy or not. They would rather not get it, though.

hater

11-24-2021, 05:24 AM

Raw dogging the COVID

:tu freedom

hater

11-24-2021, 05:28 AM

Not sure what the bolded means, but nobody I know fears covid, healthy or not. They would rather not get it, though.

Kinda like parking tickets huh?

hater

11-24-2021, 10:10 AM

Freedom :tu

https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1463510454668611585?s=19

hater

11-24-2021, 11:27 AM

https://twitter.com/GideonChrisost1/status/1463540629036744708?s=19

hater

11-24-2021, 11:39 AM

:lmao

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1463516086348005382?s=19

hater

11-24-2021, 11:43 AM

:lmao quadrupple boosted Israel :lol

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1461701929113956367?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-24-2021, 12:34 PM

:lmao quadrupple boosted Israel :lol

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1461701929113956367?s=19

That's about the same number of new cases Montana reported today.

Montana has about 12% the population of Israel.

If you want to be consistent, you should try to keep things in perspective.

ChumpDumper

11-24-2021, 12:42 PM

:lmao quadrupple boosted Israel :lol
over 50 percent of cases are among children younger than 11, who cannot yet be vaccinated.

Sharon Alroy-Preis, head of public services at the Health Ministry, said 76% of new infections were among people who were not vaccinated at all. She said a further 12% were those who had not received a booster shot.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-health-officials-say-unvaccinated-driving-new-rise-in-covid-infections/

Infections for the unvaccinated seem pretty consistent.

Winehole23

11-24-2021, 01:17 PM

Not sure what this means, but no healthy person fears covid.Some people have loved ones who are vulnerable for whatever reason, I guess they don't count for you.

pgardn

11-24-2021, 01:42 PM

Natural origin I leave the board.

Lab leak you leave the board.

We have a deal?

Absolutely.
And dont you play games when a virus of natural origin IS STUDIED in a lab.
Because the lady who found all these various viruses in bats studied many of them, thats all she did. Bats and viruses.
There is no change of function virus that got out of a lab. This is what you are saying. I absolutely dont believe this. The RNA sequences say no way currently.
And also realize bats may just be one animal in a line of them. This has happened so many times before with various flu and other corona viruses. Birds, pigs,...

Bet on.

hater

11-24-2021, 01:51 PM

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1463568101102944259?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-24-2021, 01:53 PM

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1463568101102944259?s=19

Vaccines good again.

hater

11-24-2021, 01:54 PM

Some people have loved ones who are vulnerable for whatever reason, I guess they don't count for you.

Theys shud get vaccinated and boosted. Then will be fine :tu

pgardn

11-24-2021, 01:56 PM

Not sure what this means, but no healthy person fears covid.

It means that you know your immune system was able to take on the virus with only slight symptoms.
So you assume a person who PROBABLY has a healthy functional immune system will recognize this virus quickly after being infected, and not undergo a bad response.
You are also assuming that a person with a healthy immune system does not get a large viral load all at once. Because this could be critical. And this virus definitely can put out very large loads in some people.

I consider myself in very good shape. Hardly ever get sick from viruses (just minor head colds I think, and zero colds since the mask wearing and vaccinations started which is a lesson in itself for me. I will wear a mask in every airport and plane I am on from now on as this correlated with getting a head cold for me) I am still staying away from situations that from our models of how this virus is transmitted, would leave me vulnerable.

eg. There is no fkn way I am getting in a car or bus and driving for hours with people who might be ill. No fkn way. If you do, good luck. My cousin already had a work crew who drove back and forth from work every day with each other. 1 guy got it, they all got it and my cousin lost 4 young workers (20s) for about a week and a half. CC might be acquainted with this. Its not healthy for the people or business.

To me, this is just common sense based on what we now know about the virus.

Winehole23

11-24-2021, 02:20 PM

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cdc-hospitals-natl.png
https://healthdata.gov/Health/COVID-19-Community-Profile-Report/gqxm-d9w9

Winehole23

11-24-2021, 02:51 PM

COVID jamming up Minnesota hospitals so badly that non-COVID patients can't get care and big hospitals can't take transfers from rural areas.

The Minnesota Department of Health reports more than three quarters of the state’s ICU beds are full, and 52 hospitals can’t take any more patients at all.

Dr. Dan Hoody is chief medical officer of Hennepin Healthcare, the state’s biggest provider. He tells WCCO they can’t even take patients from smaller hospitals anymore.

“Because we have so many patients in our hospital emergency department waiting to get in the hospital, we have lost the ability and the bed capacity to safely accept many transfers from throughout the region,” Dr. Hoody said. “This is commonly us having to decline five to 50 transfers a day.”

Cuck Ross

11-24-2021, 02:54 PM

Absolutely.
And dont you play games when a virus of natural origin IS STUDIED in a lab.
Because the lady who found all these various viruses in bats studied many of them, thats all she did. Bats and viruses.
There is no change of function virus that got out of a lab. This is what you are saying. I absolutely dont believe this. The RNA sequences say no way currently.
And also realize bats may just be one animal in a line of them. This has happened so many times before with various flu and other corona viruses. Birds, pigs,...

Bet on.
You are already playing games and changed the terms of the bet :lol

I said lab leak and you leave the board. I didn’t say gain of function lab leak and you leave the board.

Cuck Ross

11-24-2021, 03:04 PM

COVID jamming up Minnesota hospitals so badly that non-COVID patients can't get care and big hospitals can't take transfers from rural areas.
Staffing shortages due to vaccine mandate and burnout.

Winehole23

11-24-2021, 03:13 PM

Staffing shortages due to vaccine mandate and burnout.totally agree, anti-vax propaganda and burnout have contributed to deteriorating healthcare in the US too.

ElNono

11-24-2021, 04:23 PM

Kinda like parking tickets huh?

Not really, no. There's zero chance of dying off of parking tickets. There's non-zero chance of dying of COVID.

That doesn't mean you fear it, it means smart people would A) rather not get it, B) substantially increase their odds of survival with a simple shot.

hater

11-24-2021, 04:52 PM

Not really, no. There's zero chance of dying off of parking tickets. There's non-zero chance of dying of COVID.

That doesn't mean you fear it, it means smart people would A) rather not get it, B) substantially increase their odds of survival with a simple shot.

And smart ppl would not go sky diving, bungee jumping or motorcycle riding huh?

Thats a falsehood. Plenty smart ppl ride motorcycles, bungee and sky dive. And maybe some of them would rather get.raw covid.

Cheers :tu

ChumpDumper

11-24-2021, 05:04 PM

And smart ppl would not go sky diving, bungee jumping or motorcycle riding huh?

Thats a falsehood. Plenty smart ppl ride motorcycles, bungee and sky dive. And maybe some of them would rather get.raw covid.

Cheers :tuMotorcyclists wear safety gear and follow traffic laws.

Bungee jumpers use bungee cords.

Skydivers use parachutes.

Cheers.:tu

SnakeBoy

11-24-2021, 06:54 PM

1463567911692513281

ChumpDumper

11-24-2021, 07:41 PM

:lmao AM radio hosts triggered by network morning shows

ElNono

11-24-2021, 07:52 PM

And smart ppl would not go sky diving, bungee jumping or motorcycle riding huh?

Thats a falsehood. Plenty smart ppl ride motorcycles, bungee and sky dive. And maybe some of them would rather get.raw covid.

Cheers :tu

Every smart people I know that does those things wear protection to improve their odds of survival when something goes bad.

Just like vaccines, and nothing like parking tickets :tu

EDIT: Chump beat me to it.

pgardn

11-24-2021, 11:01 PM

You are already playing games and changed the terms of the bet :lol

I said lab leak and you leave the board. I didn’t say gain of function lab leak and you leave the board.

Plenty of labs work with the viruses in China, the US and elsewhere. I completely dont trust you. so:

Dont you dare say it could have been a lab, after we have evidence it is a virus that is the progenitor of the different strains of Covid viruses we have now that cause the disease. This virus has mutated to new forms and plenty of labs work with them, growing them in cell culture in order to study them. Dont you dare fall back on 100s of labs work with the Corona virus shit. I have seen how disingenuous you can be.

Drop the change of function stuff then. "Its" still not gonna be leaked from a lab. It will have an animal origin just like so many of the viruses before. So you realize you will have the 1st virus leaked from a lab that has caused a world wide disease, only this is the biggest killer of all? Good.

Bet on.

DarrinS

11-25-2021, 12:05 AM

Most likely it was a lab leak.

baseline bum

11-25-2021, 12:15 AM

Most likely it was a lab leak.

Says the guy who thought pandemic most likely over in May 2020

DarrinS

11-25-2021, 12:48 AM

Says the guy who thought pandemic most likely over in May 2020

Wow. You guys keep changing the dates. Link?

baseline bum

11-25-2021, 12:59 AM

Wow. You guys keep changing the dates. Link?

You don't remember the days of out of fuel during the Balous Miller Recovery?

ElNono

11-25-2021, 01:00 AM

Most likely it was a lab leak.

Better stock up on your incandescent bulbs

Winehole23

11-25-2021, 02:11 AM

Wow. You guys keep changing the dates. Link?You've declared the pandemic over so many times it's hard to keep track. Pretty sure you did during the summer of 2020.

Winehole23

11-25-2021, 02:43 AM

Brandon dropped the ball by staking everything on vaccines.

The following is excerpted from a long paper analyzing the election last year that's interesting in its own right.

[E]very passing day suggests that the administration is failing to keep up with COVID’s mutations. Though it is spending a lot of money, when it assumed power, it failed to prioritize cheap, accessible tests open to anyone who needs them, left too much basic data gathering to scholars or the media, and made at best half-hearted pushes in favor of improved ventilation, air filters, and other obvious steps that would minimize indoor COVID problems, especially in schools. It also did essentially nothing to put reliable face masks in the hands of the population and failed even to set standards for advertising and sales of facemasks, leaving a vast market to charlatans. It still has no program in place for large scale random testing that can swiftly identify new variants and it has failed to create an effective national set of statistics with public dashboards anyone can access. Essentially it has staked everything on vaccines that will need regular, costly updates in a country with no national healthcare system. It is obvious that the administration’s hopes for an end to the COVID nightmare are premature.https://www.ineteconomics.org/uploads/papers/WP_169-Ferg-Jorg-Chen-The-Knife-Edge-Election.pdf

Winehole23

11-25-2021, 03:12 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEms_mZX0AIu4G0?format=jpg&name=medium

Winehole23

11-25-2021, 03:48 AM

Two dose vaccination plus boosters, plus the various EUA theraputic pills and 2nd generation vaccines could change the game, if people are willing to take them.

For the first time since all this started, I'm modestly hopeful the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a locomotive.

hater

11-25-2021, 09:33 AM

Every smart people I know that does those things wear protection to improve their odds of survival when something goes bad.

Just like vaccines, and nothing like parking tickets :tu

EDIT: Chump beat me to it.

Anecdotal lol

ChumpDumper

11-25-2021, 09:37 AM

Anecdotal lol

How many skydivers you know jump without parachutes?

hater

11-25-2021, 09:45 AM

:lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1463686958388060162?s=19

DMC

11-25-2021, 09:47 AM

Winehole23

11-25-2021, 11:18 AM

Plural? Is this now a maintenance medication?multiple vaccine boosters are hardly unusual.

the flu jab is redesigned annually.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

Cuck Ross

11-25-2021, 11:22 AM

Plenty of labs work with the viruses in China, the US and elsewhere. I completely dont trust you. so:

Dont you dare say it could have been a lab, after we have evidence it is a virus that is the progenitor of the different strains of Covid viruses we have now that cause the disease. This virus has mutated to new forms and plenty of labs work with them, growing them in cell culture in order to study them. Dont you dare fall back on 100s of labs work with the Corona virus shit. I have seen how disingenuous you can be.

Drop the change of function stuff then. "Its" still not gonna be leaked from a lab. It will have an animal origin just like so many of the viruses before. So you realize you will have the 1st virus leaked from a lab that has caused a world wide disease, only this is the biggest killer of all? Good.

Bet on.

Lab leak you leave.

Zoonotic I leave.

Bet on. :bobo

InRareForm

11-25-2021, 02:15 PM

1463925612402429952

Shit

ElNono

11-25-2021, 02:31 PM

Anecdotal lol

Beats making shit up (lol parking tickets)

DMC

11-25-2021, 02:36 PM

multiple vaccine boosters are hardly unusual.

the flu jab is redesigned annually.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

Different virus each year. It's not because of waning immunity. Noted that you compared it to the flu when it suited your argument.

ElNono

11-25-2021, 02:37 PM

:lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1463686958388060162?s=19

Did he link the wrong article? Nothing in that article contradicts vaccines being safe and effective...

DMC

11-25-2021, 02:42 PM

Did he link the wrong article? Nothing in that article contradicts vaccines being safe and effective...

He's saying "effective" is debatable.

Eventually people are going to start ignoring all the recommendations and just deal with the results, right or wrong. They do it now with their own PCP who they supposedly trust.

ElNono

11-25-2021, 03:29 PM

He's saying "effective" is debatable.

Eventually people are going to start ignoring all the recommendations and just deal with the results, right or wrong. They do it now with their own PCP who they supposedly trust.

Why is it debatable? They're highly effective at combating the virus. Looking at the stats, that's a fact. They're not perfect, but I don't recall any vaccine ever being perfect.

hater

11-25-2021, 03:33 PM

Beats making shit up (lol parking tickets)

Lol thinks parking tickets are made up :lol

ElNono

11-25-2021, 03:36 PM

Lol thinks parking tickets are made up :lol

:lol that swerve...

Go fetch some posobiec tweets, don't forget to follow the science :tu

hater

11-25-2021, 04:00 PM

:lol that swerve...

Go fetch some posobiec tweets, don't forget to follow the science :tu

:lol thinks parking tickets are made up :lol

They real nig. They really exists. And noone scared of them but noone wants them :lol

ElNono

11-25-2021, 04:17 PM

:lol thinks parking tickets are made up :lol

They real nig. They really exists. And noone scared of them but noone wants them :lol

Not really, no. There's zero chance of dying off of parking tickets. There's non-zero chance of dying of COVID.

:lol mad your strawman got called out
:lol doubling down on stupid
:lol trying to dodge the fact you said something stupid
:lol hater

hater

11-26-2021, 07:57 AM

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1464190991204859919?s=19

hater

11-26-2021, 07:57 AM

:lol mad your strawman got called out
:lol doubling down on stupid
:lol trying to dodge the fact you said something stupid
:lol hater

Wow some meltdown

Winehole23

11-26-2021, 09:34 AM

Different virus each year. It's not because of waning immunity. Noted that you compared it to the flu when it suited your argument.I compared vaccines to vaccines. Not sure why a multi-dose schedule is disqualifying in your view, if regular boosters confer robust protection until more durable vaccines get here, what's the problem?

pgardn

11-26-2021, 10:31 AM

I compared vaccines to vaccines. Not sure why a multi-dose schedule is disqualifying in your view, if regular boosters confer robust protection until more durable vaccines get here, what's the problem?

It is what it is.
This was a very good vaccine for such a short start up.
What about AIDS, malaria, etc... ? Its very difficult. We should be elated this vaccine worked so well, but because so many people fear the autism and such, its ineffective. This is a totally different phenomena the red team has a problem understanding.

" You have to get a booster? This thing is shit. It failed! Plus it will kill you!"

Biggest mischaracterization for political and "muh rights" excuses that are just ridiculous.
The vaccine for this virus works damn well. If we would have been given this scenario BEFORE the vaccine we would have said "hell yes" in a heartbeat.

Winehole23

11-26-2021, 10:36 AM

It is what it is.
This was a very good vaccine for such a short start up.
What about AIDS, malaria, etc... ? Its very difficult. We should be elated this vaccine worked so well, but because so many people fear the autism and such, its ineffective. This is a totally different phenomena the red team has a problem understanding.

" You have to get a booster? This thing is shit. It failed! Plus it will kill you!"

Biggest mischaracterization for political and "muh rights" excuses that are just ridiculous.
The vaccine for this virus works damn well. If we would have been given this scenario BEFORE the vaccine we would have said "hell yes" in a heartbeat.it's remarkable that we have a vaccine at all -- ordinarily the process takes years

hater

11-26-2021, 10:45 AM

it's remarkable that we have a vaccine at all -- ordinarily the process takes years

Thats mostly the testing for efficacy and safety. We shortened that shit to weeks.

Winehole23

11-26-2021, 01:38 PM

COVID related, worst day of the year

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 905.04 points, or 2.53%, for its worst day of the year, closing at 34,899.34https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/26/stock-futures-open-to-close-market-news.html

DMC

11-26-2021, 01:43 PM

I compared vaccines to vaccines. Not sure why a multi-dose schedule is disqualifying in your view, if regular boosters confer robust protection until more durable vaccines get here, what's the problem?

It's not been suggested that it be a maintenance medication. The issue is mandates and social stigma attached to adherence. The flu vaccine isn't mandated. I never saw anyone shunned for saying they don't get the flu vaccine.

Winehole23

11-26-2021, 01:53 PM

It's not been suggested that it be a maintenance medication. The issue is mandates and social stigma attached to adherence. The flu vaccine isn't mandated. I never saw anyone shunned for saying they don't get the flu vaccine.I never saw 600,000 people die of the flu in a single year either.

Like it or not, public health restrictions and mandates are part of the traditional police power. You need to toughen up that candy ass.

Cuck Ross

11-26-2021, 03:14 PM

Covid shuts down hospitals. Never seen the flu do that. Fucking losers. :lol
Hospitals Overwhelmed by Flu Patients Are Treating Them in Tents

https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/

2018

ElNono

11-26-2021, 04:36 PM

Wow some meltdown

yeah, that's what happened :lol

carry on

Winehole23

11-26-2021, 05:46 PM

Hospitals Overwhelmed by Flu Patients Are Treating Them in Tents

https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/

2018
Three US states are currently operating under crisis standards of care -- aka healthcare rationing. Been that was in Idaho for over two months.

When's the last time that happened?

CosmicCowboy

11-26-2021, 05:55 PM

Great. Now they think the vaccines may not work against the new South African strain.

ElNono

11-26-2021, 05:59 PM

Great. Now they think the vaccines may not work against the new South African strain.

Nothing new there, virus mutates and we adapt our vaccines...

Omicron COVID-19 variant: Pfizer, BioNTech say vaccine could be reworked in 100 days to counter strain

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/covid-omicron-variant-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-reworked-100-days

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 05:59 PM

1464316738057777154

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 06:01 PM

Getting my booster after Biden just asked. This is going to fucking kills tons of people this winter.

Lol

CosmicCowboy

11-26-2021, 06:04 PM

I have had covid already, had the first two Pfizer six months ago and about to do the Moderna booster. Not because Biden asked me but because I try to follow the science.

ElNono

11-26-2021, 06:09 PM

1464316738057777154

Stupid.

There was no (known) Nu variant. Most people thought this Omicron variant was going to be called Nu. (see here (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/nu-covid-19-variant-from-southern-africa-spooks-world-crashing-markets/articleshow/87936538.cms), here (https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-coronavirus-variant-may-not-change-anything-about-the-pandemic-12479551))

They literally skipped from Mu to Omicron.

hater

11-26-2021, 06:12 PM

There is too much commotion about this new strain and the whole world is shutting down travel to these hotspots. The numbers must be fucking ugly already.

Meh

Scaremongering mostly

hater

11-26-2021, 06:15 PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201?s=19

:tu

CosmicCowboy

11-26-2021, 06:16 PM

Meh

Scaremongering mostly

They went from 200 cases a week to 2000+ in one week. Sounds like a pretty nasty mutation. It lost the spike identifiers the vaccines target..

Blake

11-26-2021, 06:33 PM

1464316738057777154

Lol Liz wheeler

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 06:53 PM

Lol Liz wheeler

Lol Bleke

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 06:56 PM

There is too much commotion about this new strain and the whole world is shutting down travel to these hotspots. The numbers must be fucking ugly already.

Meh

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-africa/

SnakeBoy

11-26-2021, 07:02 PM

I have had covid already, had the first two Pfizer six months ago and about to do the Moderna booster. Not because Biden asked me but because I try to follow the science.

The science says you are one of the most protected people on the planet and you don't really need a booster. Then again, it's free and there haven't been any safety issues so no reason not to get it.

One bit of science that says you should get it is Shane Crotty's work showing repeated exposure to the spike (virus or vaccine) builds the "library" of antibodies against future variants. Every time your immune system sees the spike protein it gets better at anticipating how it is likely to mutate and produces antibodies to those future possible mutation. Pretty cool that evolution has taught our immune system to anticipate evolution.

DMC

11-26-2021, 07:05 PM

ppffft.. evolution. If we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys? Ever ask yourself that? Why not ask yourself that?

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 07:09 PM

JFC right after we finally got kind of out of the delta wave.

SnakeBoy

11-26-2021, 07:12 PM

ppffft.. evolution. If we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys? Ever ask yourself that? Why not ask yourself that?

Jesus wanted humans but also liked monkeys

Winehole23

11-26-2021, 07:14 PM

JFC right after we finally got kind of out of the delta wave.Relatively unvaccinated areas are reservoirs for the emergence of new variants. Protecting monopoly profits rather than waiving IP rights and ramping up production and distribution for “the rest of the world” was short sighted.

SnakeBoy

11-26-2021, 07:19 PM

Relatively unvaccinated areas are reservoirs for the emergence of new variants. Protecting monopoly profits rather than waiving IP rights and ramping up production and distribution for “the rest of the world” was short sighted.

There are limited doses available. Instead of sending them to the rest of the world we are injecting ourselves over and over because we believe the vaccines work but not with conviction. Jab me again Mr. Fauci just in case.

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 07:24 PM

There are limited doses available. Instead of sending them to the rest of the world we are injecting ourselves over and over because we believe the vaccines work but not with conviction. Jab me again Mr. Fauci just in case.

Bend over, I'll jab you again just in case.

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 07:32 PM

Relatively unvaccinated areas are reservoirs for the emergence of new variants.

I didn't realize vaccines shut down mutations. Cool story.

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 07:45 PM

I didn't realize vaccines shut down mutations. Cool story.

Kind of amazing how more transmission leads to more variants more quickly. Who would have guessed?

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 07:48 PM

Kind of amazing how more transmission leads to more variants more quickly. Who would have guessed?

Wouldn't you worry more about a variant from a highly vaccinated area?

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 07:59 PM

Wouldn't you worry more about a variant from a highly vaccinated area?

Delta was already the dominant strain everywhere in the world. More transmission gives more replication gives more chance for mutations, in this case ones that built off delta.

Blake

11-26-2021, 08:03 PM

Wouldn't you worry more about a variant from a highly vaccinated area?

Lol wut?

Darrin is a variant of derp

SnakeBoy

11-26-2021, 08:19 PM

Lol wut?

Darrin is a variant of derp

When a new VOC emerges from a highly vaccinated population it will be more vaccine resistant

pgardn

11-26-2021, 08:19 PM

The science says you are one of the most protected people on the planet and you don't really need a booster. Then again, it's free and there haven't been any safety issues so no reason not to get it.

One bit of science that says you should get it is Shane Crotty's work showing repeated exposure to the spike (virus or vaccine) builds the "library" of antibodies against future variants. Every time your immune system sees the spike protein it gets better at anticipating how it is likely to mutate and produces antibodies to those future possible mutation. Pretty cool that evolution has taught our immune system to anticipate evolution.

It has not.
What is cool is that your immune system homes creates a variety of shapes that recognize the original strain and ALSO makes slightly different Abs than the original strain shape because your immune system basically is able to mutate or mix and match a bunch of different shapes close to the original. The DNA in our immune system cells makes "mistakes" when this mixing and matching occurs so that its not the best fit to the original strain, but WILL fit the new mutations.

This is random. Not anticipated. But it is the subtle changes from the original good fit gene.
It is an absolutely beautiful system. And it has in turn been selected for. Messing with (mixing and matching immune cell DNA that codes for Abs) is actually an advantage in keeping up with mutations in a nature throws at us as viruses. This is absolutely amazing in its own right. Its still basic evolution. Selection from of variety of DNA sequences. This is why its so cool. So be happy if your immune system is good at mixing and matching DNA sequences.

btw when we use words like anticipation it often implies a creative quality outside of a known mechanism. Then you are no longer doing science because you assume there is an anticipator behind it all. Then you have to explain how the "anticipation" occurs which I have attempted to do above.

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 08:41 PM

When a new VOC emerges from a highly vaccinated population it will be more vaccine resistant

Funny how these variants keep coming from low vaccination areas like South Africa and India.

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 08:42 PM

SnakeBoy

11-26-2021, 08:58 PM

Funny how these variants keep coming from low vaccination areas like South Africa and India.

We have variants that emerged here and in Europe

The WHO switched to the greek alphabet specifically because idiots like you kept blaming the place a new variant was 1st identified

ChumpDumper

11-26-2021, 09:01 PM

We have variants that emerged here and in Europe

The WHO switched to the greek alphabet specifically because idiots like you kept blaming the place a new variant was 1st identified

"China virus"

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 09:03 PM

We have variants that emerged here and in Europe

The WHO switched to the greek alphabet specifically because idiots like you kept blaming the place a new variant was 1st identified

LOL China Virus party wants to be PC now.

SnakeBoy

11-26-2021, 09:03 PM

"China virus"

All the variants are China Virus

baseline bum

11-26-2021, 09:11 PM

"China virus"

:cry But alpha originated in the UK :cry

Nevermind it being when vaccines weren't available

Blake

11-26-2021, 09:18 PM

When a new VOC emerges from a highly vaccinated population it will be more vaccine resistant

Vaccine resistance is rare.

But you guys aren't even worried about covid any way

DarrinS

11-26-2021, 09:37 PM

Vaccine resistance is rare.

But you guys aren't even worried about covid any way

This Xi strain is serious business. Get a booster of each vax, just to be on the safe side.

Blake

11-26-2021, 09:44 PM

This Xi strain is serious business. Get a booster of each vax, just to be on the safe side.

You have a lot of posts in a thread about a virus you're not scared of

Thanos

11-27-2021, 12:07 AM

Lab leak you leave.

Zoonotic I leave.

Bet on. :bobo
If it means getting pgardn out of here then I am 100% rooting for you to win this :tu

Thanos

11-27-2021, 12:10 AM

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The greek letter and the Chinese dickhead’s name are pronounced differently, but retards like you would never figure that out.

SnakeBoy

11-27-2021, 12:57 AM

It has not.
What is cool is that your immune system homes creates a variety of shapes that recognize the original strain and ALSO makes slightly different Abs than the original strain shape because your immune system basically is able to mutate or mix and match a bunch of different shapes close to the original. The DNA in our immune system cells makes "mistakes" when this mixing and matching occurs so that its not the best fit to the original strain, but WILL fit the new mutations.

This is random. Not anticipated. But it is the subtle changes from the original good fit gene.
It is an absolutely beautiful system. And it has in turn been selected for. Messing with (mixing and matching immune cell DNA that codes for Abs) is actually an advantage in keeping up with mutations in a nature throws at us as viruses. This is absolutely amazing in its own right. Its still basic evolution. Selection from of variety of DNA sequences. This is why its so cool. So be happy if your immune system is good at mixing and matching DNA sequences.

btw when we use words like anticipation it often implies a creative quality outside of a known mechanism. Then you are no longer doing science because you assume there is an anticipator behind it all. Then you have to explain how the "anticipation" occurs which I have attempted to do above.

Don't anthropomorphize memory b cells :cry

Good stuff lol

SnakeBoy

11-27-2021, 01:10 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFJIwICXMAIwnQz?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23

11-27-2021, 02:03 AM

Concern trolling about vaxxing pregnant women appears to have been mistaken

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Winehole23

11-27-2021, 02:13 AM

The viral genetics is beyond my understanding, but the upshot of this lab reading the tea leaves isn't. Bloom Lab thinks there's a good chance that Omicron could escape some monoclonal treatments and that polyclonals and vaccines could take a big hit in effectiveness. Transmissibility would seem to be the ultimate determinant of the pucker factor.

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Winehole23

11-27-2021, 02:29 AM

Chances are Omicron is here already and we don't know it yet, because our data collection is for shit, unlike South Africa.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFJvvF5XwAIp8nJ?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23

11-27-2021, 02:39 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFJUE76XEAACj_F?format=jpg&name=900x900

BackHome

11-27-2021, 02:52 AM

Concern trolling about vaxxing pregnant women appears to have been mistaken

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Well if your for abortion then you know it’s “Women’s Body Her Choice”. So I guess they can choose to get the shot or not get the shot.

ChumpDumper

11-27-2021, 03:38 AM

Well if your for abortion then you know it’s “Women’s Body Her Choice”. So I guess they can choose to get the shot or not get the shot.*you're

*Woman's

CosmicCowboy

11-27-2021, 10:24 AM

I women's pregnancy is not public health ya dumb fucks. :lmao

Low vaccination rates can fuck up a region/town/city/state/country.

Vaccination does not prevent infection.

Blake

11-27-2021, 10:30 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFJIwICXMAIwnQz?format=jpg&name=900x900

February 1st 2020.

Why are you guys always so disingenuous

CosmicCowboy

11-27-2021, 10:32 AM

Why is it always fucking black and white with you stupid boomers? :lol

I'm not going to waste my time explaining the benefits to idiots. :lol

If you don't want to be corrected dont make dumb posts.

DMC

11-27-2021, 10:33 AM

If it means getting pgardn out of here then I am 100% rooting for you to win this :tu

:lol What do you have against pgardn?

hater

11-27-2021, 06:31 PM

Lol pussies

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1464736069220511750?s=19

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 09:18 AM

just following the science, surely

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFSQasKXoAcAHdu?format=jpg&name=large

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 09:39 AM

If it's in those countries, it's in the US.South Africa is being punished for identifying the variant and sharing the info, when, as you say, it's probably already circulating undetected in the US.

http://www.dirco.gov.za/docs/2021/covid-19_1127.htm

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 11:08 AM

Aside:

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Winehole23

11-28-2021, 11:18 AM

COVID-19 is airborne.

Disease prevention is still cool, right?

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Trill Clinton

11-28-2021, 11:20 AM

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https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/snoop.png

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 11:30 AM

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https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/snoop.pngif it wasn't well known that public health is shit in the USA, it is now. profits before people, always.

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 11:41 AM

"it's just a little flu, bro"

About one in 10 lung transplants in the United States now go to COVID-19 patients, according to data from the United Network for Organ Sharing, or UNOS.

The trend is raising questions about the ethics of allocating a scarce resource to people who have chosen not to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.

"They are accumulating on a steady basis. So it's very much a real thing," says David Klassen, chief medical officer for UNOS.

"If there were more lungs available for transplants, I believe the numbers would be greater than they are," he says.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/28/1058988220/once-rare-lung-transplants-for-covid-19-patients-are-rising-quickly

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 01:22 PM

Fauci waves the white flag

Fauci: Learn to Live With COVID Because ‘We’re Not Going to Eradicate’ It
https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-learn-live-covid-because-160218212.html

baseline bum

11-28-2021, 01:48 PM

Fauci waves the white flag

Fauci: Learn to Live With COVID Because ‘We’re Not Going to Eradicate’ It
https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-learn-live-covid-because-160218212.html

15 cases going on zero was the white flag tbh

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 02:07 PM

Full-time COVID minimizers in this forum suddenly pretending to be very concerned.

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 02:18 PM

All year long right wingers have been downplaying COVID, trash-talking vaccines and non-medical interventions, declaring the pandemic over and insisting we go about life as if COVID wasn't there, but suddenly it's Biden's fault there are so many cases and so many people vulnerable to disease.

Trainwreck2100

11-28-2021, 02:27 PM

15 cases going on zero was the white flag tbh

After the COVID flight from hell we weren't ever getting rid of this

Trainwreck2100

11-28-2021, 02:29 PM

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https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/snoop.png
You can see when China just stopped declaring their cases

DarrinS

11-28-2021, 02:31 PM

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 02:32 PM

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 02:36 PM

Good adviceeveryone who survives goes about life, what's your point?

DarrinS

11-28-2021, 02:38 PM

When the WHO named the “mu” variant in August, “nu” was next in line. But the WHO decided to skip it over because officials felt the letter was too similar to the English word “new,” which could have led to a bit of confusion. Then came “xi,” but the WHO also decided to nix it because it is the same as the common last name Xi and using it would violate the organization’s guidelines to name diseases. The WHO always seeks to “avoid causing offense to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups,” the organization said in a statement.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/omicron-who-skip-letters-greek-alphabet-nu-xi.html?via=rss

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 02:38 PM

Biden promised he had a secret plan to "shut down the virus". He owns it grandpa.I have detailed criticisms of Joe Biden in this thread and elsewhere. Some of them posted in the last few days.

Happy to repost them for you if you're too lazy to find them.

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 02:39 PM

Winehole23

11-28-2021, 02:41 PM

He owns it grandpa.Mighty generous of you to let Trump, GOP state governments and your fellow propagandists off the hook. Y'all have been playing defense for COVID-19 full time for a solid year.

DarrinS

11-28-2021, 02:46 PM

The greek letter and the Chinese dickhead’s name are pronounced differently, but retards like you would never figure that out.

^ derp

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 02:56 PM

"it's just a little flu, bro"

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/28/1058988220/once-rare-lung-transplants-for-covid-19-patients-are-rising-quickly

Are you going to donate a lung?

DMX7

11-28-2021, 03:09 PM

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https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/snoop.png

We should be clear that no one has a clue what the real number of cases are. Every country is off probably by a factor of 3x to 50x, and there is plenty of evidence to believe that. The question is whose self report count is off by how much. The US is of course a major hotspot regardless.

ChumpDumper

11-28-2021, 03:29 PM

benefactor

11-28-2021, 04:13 PM

:lol China...what a load of bullshit

ElNono

11-28-2021, 04:42 PM

Fauci waves the white flag

Fauci: Learn to Live With COVID Because ‘We’re Not Going to Eradicate’ It
https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-learn-live-covid-because-160218212.html

Fauci

ElNono

11-28-2021, 04:43 PM

DMC

11-28-2021, 05:46 PM

South Africa is being punished for identifying the variant and sharing the info, when, as you say, it's probably already circulating undetected in the US.

http://www.dirco.gov.za/docs/2021/covid-19_1127.htm

if it wasn't well known that public health is shit in the USA, it is now. profits before people, always.

:lol

"they are punished by not letting them come to the US when they have no confirmed cases"

"The US has shitty public health care! Just look at all the confirmed cases!"

Shit/go blind - WH2021

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 06:38 PM

NIH director says get a booster if you are worried about Omicron.

That'll hold you over until the Omicron booster is available.

baseline bum

11-28-2021, 06:43 PM

NIH director says get a booster if you are worried about Omicron.

That'll hold you over until the Omicron booster is available.

LOL Snakes being a boosted vaxxed antivaxxer again

ChumpDumper

11-28-2021, 06:44 PM

LOL Snakes being a boosted vaxxed antivaxxer again:lmao

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 06:50 PM

LOL Snakes being a boosted vaxxed antivaxxer again

Fake news

NIH director says get a booster now if you are worried about Omicron

Pfizer & Moderna estimate 100 days until Omicron booster

ChumpDumper

11-28-2021, 06:54 PM

lol boosted antibooster

baseline bum

11-28-2021, 06:54 PM

Fake news

NIH director says get a booster now if you are worried about Omicron

Pfizer & Moderna estimate 100 days until Omicron booster

So booster no longer teaches your body how to fight future variants?

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 08:13 PM

So booster no longer teaches your body how to fight future variants?

lol how are you reading that into it?

I just posted the statement of the NIH director and what Pfizer/Moderna are saying.

You're the one taking it as somehow antivaxxer. Why are you so sensitive about having gotten a booster shot? Are you planning on getting another one because of Omicron?

ChumpDumper

11-28-2021, 08:49 PM

:lol boosted antibooster trying to project his boosted antiboosterism on base.

baseline bum

11-28-2021, 08:50 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbFhOeqTzY

SnakeBoy

11-28-2021, 09:02 PM

:madrun

I don't know why you're getting so mad. Eventually I'll get a 3rd shot too, if there is evidence I should. There's nothing wrong with you getting your 4th shot if you are concerned about Omicron, it's probably safe.

baseline bum

11-28-2021, 09:29 PM

I don't know why you're getting so mad. Eventually I'll get a 3rd shot too, if there is evidence I should. There's nothing wrong with you getting your 4th shot if you are concerned about Omicron, it's probably safe.

鼻血が出るほどいいマンコは気持ちいいぬるぬるしていい

InRareForm

11-28-2021, 09:41 PM

Early data showing vaccinated are having mild symptoms if infected with omnicron

Ef-man

11-28-2021, 09:59 PM

Early data showing vaccinated are having mild symptoms if infected with omnicron

Hope it true and continues. :tu

daboom1

11-29-2021, 02:07 AM

https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1465100774803795969?t

Winehole23

11-29-2021, 07:47 AM

NY state suspends elective surgeries. Last year we had shelter in place orders to try and prevent this sort of thing from happening, now we meekly accept healthcare rationing and death panels.

The edict curbing non-essential surgeries will kick in for hospitals with a limited capacity — defined as at or below 10 percent of available staffed bed capacity.

The new protocols will take effect on Friday, Dec. 3, and will be re-evaluated based on the latest COVID-19 data on Jan. 15.
https://nypost.com/2021/11/26/gov-hochul-orders-elective-surgery-canceled-amid-covid-spike-omicron/

DMC

11-29-2021, 09:45 AM

https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1465100774803795969?t

But it does create a manufactured dip in the stocks so that those pulling levers can make a quick smash and grab.

Winehole23

11-29-2021, 10:10 AM

Mass disability

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SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 11:27 AM

Mass disability

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Malaise was among the most common symptoms reported

ChumpDumper

11-29-2021, 11:31 AM

"Why won't people work our shit jobs for nothing anymore?"

DMC

11-29-2021, 12:53 PM

That's our missing workforce...

1 million dead and 10 million disabled. Its just the flu!!

Lots of people taking early retirement. Some who would otherwise have waited a few years decided to forego dealing with the chances of getting COVID near retirement age through their job contacts and took off early. This is a sizeable chunk of workers, many with decades of experience that's very hard to replace since in many cases no succession plan was created.

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 01:03 PM

But it does create a manufactured dip in the stocks so that those pulling levers can make a quick smash and grab.

Man Moderna is on fire. For some stupid reason I bought OXY on the dip instead. Oh well, I made a dollar.

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 01:05 PM

Lots of people taking early retirement. Some who would otherwise have waited a few years decided to forego dealing with the chances of getting COVID near retirement age through their job contacts and took off early. This is a sizeable chunk of workers, many with decades of experience that's very hard to replace since in many cases no succession plan was created.

Yes covid has sped up the end of the boomer boom.

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 03:31 PM

It's got a new name

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baseline bum

11-29-2021, 03:45 PM

It's got a new name

At least this one is infectious enough to get us to herd mentality.

Blake

11-29-2021, 03:46 PM

It's got a new name

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29 people noticed

daboom1

11-29-2021, 04:33 PM

But it does create a manufactured dip in the stocks so that those pulling levers can make a quick smash and grab.

:tu

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 05:12 PM

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spurraider21

11-29-2021, 05:25 PM

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boosted antivax snakeboy

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 05:42 PM

boosted antivax snakeboy

The UK's recommendation is antivax :lol

baseline bum

11-29-2021, 05:43 PM

booster for me, not for thee

Adam Lambert

11-29-2021, 06:00 PM

It's got a new name

1465371819016400899

LMAO that's hilarious, imagine meaning to say "Omicron" but actually slipping up and saying "Omnicron" LOL what a fucking moron

America is fucked and unfuckable except for the great comedy you keep finding to help pass the time.

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 06:11 PM

I heard Florida has the lowest new covid cases per capita in the nation. Is that true?

DMC

11-29-2021, 06:14 PM

Mornron tbh

DMC

11-29-2021, 06:21 PM

Ya know what rates are now? :lol

Odd how that works - as soon as the left forgets the right remembers and so on. It's a great archival system.

ChumpDumper

11-29-2021, 06:23 PM

Waves gonna wave.

Also lol Florida reporting.

SnakeBoy

11-29-2021, 06:24 PM

Ya know what rates are now? :lol

Yeah I saw it on the news

GOP Rep. attributes Florida's lowest daily COVID cases per capita to Republican leadership
https://news.yahoo.com/gop-rep-attributes-floridas-lowest-124009314.html

DMC

11-29-2021, 06:26 PM

Yeah I saw it on the news

GOP Rep. attributes Florida's lowest daily COVID cases per capita to Republican leadership
https://news.yahoo.com/gop-rep-attributes-floridas-lowest-124009314.html

Only matters in NY. Doesn't matter south of the Mason Dixon line. Then it's just normal variation and faulty record keeping.

Winehole23

11-30-2021, 09:18 AM

Thread

11-30-2021, 12:59 PM

N95s and KN95s, tbh.

Not all masks were created equal. Brandon should have done more to get high quality masks to the people. Abandoning a layered approach to prevention in favor of vaccines only has been a big mistake and will be again.

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As it was a 100 years ago it is a 100 years later..."A piece of gauze proved worthless."

Get ta herdin', Winester...& mother fucker Biden is with it now. Santis down in the Florida set the marker 18 months ago..."We're opening up, and we're not going back."

Mother fucker Biden ain't going back neither, that's why he held off announcing this new variant until AFTER Thanksgiving Day. He announces that on Wednesday nobody gets on a plan the morning after. Then gives everybody a 3 days grace period on closing off Africa, & they're still coming thru today.

President Trump: 400,000 dead AmericansPERIOD
MF Biden: 401,000 dead Americans.
& counting, son

Let us proceed...

hater

11-30-2021, 01:40 PM

:tu

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1464736069220511750?s=19

hater

11-30-2021, 01:41 PM

:tu :tu

Great chinese support for Africa.:tu

https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1465519609147052034?s=19

DMC

11-30-2021, 01:45 PM

:tu :tu

Great chinese support for Africa.:tu

https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1465519609147052034?s=19

Yeah, get those Chinese microchips in everyone..

SnakeBoy

11-30-2021, 03:37 PM

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hater

11-30-2021, 03:42 PM

Weve been at the throw shit and see if it sticks stage for almost a year now :lol

Trying to find any logic or coherence from.these government moves will probably give you indigestion tbqh

SnakeBoy

11-30-2021, 03:49 PM

Weve been at the throw shit and see if it sticks stage for almost a year now :lol

Trying to find any logic or coherence from.these government moves will probably give you indigestion tbqh

:lol

Chumpettes will continue to be onboard for it all