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ElNono
12-28-2021, 11:14 PM
Our own Salvadorian goal post relocator takes offense :lol

Parroting Falsuchin wont make you any extra bitcoins mi compa :lol

Looks like I hit a nerve… don’t you have a World War CCCXXV thread to start? :lol

hater
12-28-2021, 11:18 PM
Looks like I hit a nerve… don’t you have a World War CCCXXV thread to start? :lol

The only thing you hit is your cabeza moving the goalpost so much at every Falsuchi flip flop, primo :lmao :lol

Have some self respect :lol

ElNono
12-28-2021, 11:23 PM
The only thing you hit is your cabeza moving the goalpost so much at every Falsuchi flip flop, primo :lmao :lol

Have some self respect :lol

^^^ more irony :lmao

You should really start a NotFauci Twitter account and post your advice from RodrigoG or whatever rando you post here, that sounds like really top shelf, educated advice, tbh, no phun, etc… :lol

hater
12-28-2021, 11:28 PM
^^^ more irony :lmao

You should really start a NotFauci Twitter account and post your advice from RodrigoG or whatever rando you post here, that sounds like really top shelf, educated advice, tbh, no phun, etc… :lol

Sorry this is happening to you

:lol

ElNono
12-28-2021, 11:33 PM
I mean, if you really want to talk flip-flopper we can dig out some predictions from the Trump-Shillary election…

But hey, you do get credit for bringing the unintentional goods, tbh :lol

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 12:33 AM
El Nono back in total meltdown mode

It ain't easy being Tammy Wynette when Ol Joe is your man

Poor Fella

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 12:41 AM
What meltdown, I must’ve missed it.

DarrinS
12-29-2021, 02:28 AM
Yeah, stop virtue signalling your vaccine status. It's not a thing.

ChumpDumper
12-29-2021, 02:37 AM
Yeah, stop virtue signalling your vaccine status. It's not a thing.

You virtue signal your infection more than anyone has ever virtue signaled being vaccinated.

spurraider21
12-29-2021, 04:15 AM
Yeah, stop virtue signalling your vaccine status. It's not a thing.
You virtue signal constantly about how unafraid you are and how you stopped wearing masks before anyone else

DMC
12-29-2021, 08:20 AM
You virtue signal constantly about how unafraid you are and how you stopped wearing masks before anyone else

nuh uh you do

rjv
12-29-2021, 10:33 AM
The vaccine does and still does work in increasing the probability you will NOT get the disease (this INCLUDES associated symptoms) we call Covid.

a podcast (This Week in Virology) hosted by several virologists offered a great analogy way back that i think would be useful for those who either refuse or lack the capacity to grasp the purpose of a vaccine. a vaccine is akin to a fire extinguisher in that the latter does not stop a fire, it puts it out.

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 10:43 AM
nuh uh you doPretty rich for you to twit other posters for pointing out hypocrisy, in this case accurately.

Tu quoque is about 40% of your schtick here.

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 11:01 AM
The very bad day at the CDC



Eric Topol (https://substack.com/profile/1923753-eric-topol)
16 hr ago











One of my favorite books this year was Michael Lewis’s The Premonition: A Pandemic Story, a page-turner in which he traced the problematic issues of the CDC long before and intra-Covid-19 and gave it a different acronym: CDOR, the Center for Disease Observation and Reports. I did an in-depth interview with him about what he learned (https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/951399#vp_1).


In the first year of the pandemic, the CDC was subverted by the Trump Administration even to the point of interference and censorship of its MMWR reports (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/11/exclusive-trump-officials-interfered-with-cdc-reports-on-covid-19-412809), stripping its control of data, and frank undermining of public health (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/14/cdc-directors-trump-politics/). That’s why we warmly embraced the new Administration’s proclamation that it would stick to the science (https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/01/biden-pledged-follow-the-science-but-hes-fallen-short/). There were clearly issues with that regarding the lack of need for masks among vaccinated people, unwillingness to recognize SARS-CoV-2 airborne transmission, (https://www.biospace.com/article/cdc-s-updated-guidance-includes-statement-on-covid-19-airborne-transmission-/) and mass confusion over boosters. But in the last 24 hours things have gotten much worse.


Yesterday, the CDC issued a shortened isolation period guideline of 5 days instead of 10 days for people with Covid infections (https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/minute-briefing/cdc-shortens-guidance-on-covid-19-isolation-period/5625c3e0-8448-41fc-a894-cb3094503fe1). That came less than a week after they issued the guideline of 7 days for health care workers (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1223-emergency-guidance-prepare-for-omicron.html).

There were serious problems about the new 5-day isolation period. First, there are no data or evidence to back it up. Yes, we’re facing an Omicron onslaught of cases and it would be useful to come up with a strategy to avoid a mass loss of functionality among our workforce and the on-the-go public, no less in the midst of the holiday season. But that doesn’t justify issuing a vacuous guideline. Second, there was no mention of using a test, to confirm that the isolated individual is now OK to circulate, that there is no indication of infectiousness. That could be done via a rapid antigen test, which denotes infectiousness, carries some reduced sensitivity with Omicron (https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/sars-cov-2-viral-mutations-impact-covid-19-tests), or via a PCR. The cycle threshold value of a PCR test is also indicative of infectiousness; the lower it is, the more likely potential for spread. Either of these tests would be far better than no test to justify a reduced isolation time in any individual.

Third, there are no data for Omicron’s clearance time. We know the characteristics of shedding and average time it takes for clearance of the virus for Delta and preceding variants, but to date we have not seen any such data for Omicron kinetics. With the Hong Kong report of 70-fold copies of the virus in the upper airway for Omicron versus Delta and prior variants (https://www.med.hku.hk/en/news/press/20211215-omicron-sars-cov-2-infection), there is no certainty yet that Omicron’s clearance is fast.

Fourth, the guidance did not mention a word about vaccinated or unvaccinated status of people. We know from past studies there is a more rapid clearance among vaccinees than people who were not vaccinated, but the recommendation does not take this knowledge into account. Fifth, it assumes that all people handle the virus similarly when, it fact, there is considerable variability. Look at the data last week published at NEJM (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102507)​https://erictopol.substack.com/p/the-very-bad-day-at-the-cdc

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 11:06 AM
also, we suck at genomic sequencing


But the bad day wasn’t just about isolation in isolation. There was also the major gaffe about genomic sequencing surveillance. Here are the data from last week, and the corrected data this wee (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions)k, announced today by CDC. The point estimate for Omicron changed for the week ending December 18th from 73% to 22.5%, which is remarkable. We were led to believe that the country was well in the midst of the Omicron wave when, in fact, we were and are still experiencing a large number of Delta infections. As of December 25th, the point estimate is 59% with 95% confidence intervals lower 42%, upper 74%, indicating there is a lot of wobble, a relatively limited number of sequencing samples to draw upon, no less a reduction in confidence for the CDC itself.

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1100,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 89729376-8621-4d59-935d-7797de0b6b9c_5772x3260.png (https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 89729376-8621-4d59-935d-7797de0b6b9c_5772x3260.png)

rjv
12-29-2021, 11:16 AM
also, we suck at genomic sequencing

interesting. it's possible that both these variants will prove to be "fit" although ultimately there will be a dominant strain once the virus reaches "maximum transmission". if i had to place a bet, i'd still place my bet on omicron or a variant more similar to omicron than delta because it's of its enhanced transmissibility and lessened lethality (not that delta really violates the golden rule of viruses: don't kill off the host).

ElNono
12-29-2021, 12:40 PM
El Nono back in total meltdown mode

It ain't easy being Tammy Wynette when Ol Joe is your man

Poor Fella


What meltdown, I must’ve missed it.

:lol sent straight back to the cuckshed

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 12:43 PM
mortuary mobile freezer season

1476065465734676482

boutons_deux
12-29-2021, 12:50 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/1018858/large/4.jpeg?1640035574

DMC
12-29-2021, 01:21 PM
Pretty rich for you to twit other posters for pointing out hypocrisy, in this case accurately.

Tu quoque is about 40% of your schtick here.

Didn't you just do that? :lol

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 01:22 PM
22% test positivity in Texas, an all time high


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/28/omicron-texas-covid-19/

DMC
12-29-2021, 01:24 PM
22% test positivity in Texas, an all time high


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/28/omicron-texas-covid-19/

http://www.cornerstonemiami.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Worry.jpg

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 01:25 PM
Didn't you just do that? :lolI did. It's one of your main rhetorical crutches.

Overuse lessens its effectiveness, IMHO.

DMC
12-29-2021, 01:40 PM
I did.

See, we both did it. It's about 60% of the responses on this forum.

But thanks for admitting you're no daisy.

Winehole23
12-29-2021, 02:02 PM
See, we both did it. It's about 60% of the responses on this forum. It's more petty than persuasive, more self-soothing than justifying, but hey, you should definitely stick with what works best for you. :tu

DarrinS
12-29-2021, 02:29 PM
1322254443644026880


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ChumpDumper
12-29-2021, 02:31 PM
:lol Darrin's BDS at an all time high

Ef-man
12-29-2021, 02:35 PM
:lol sent straight back to the cuckshed

He never left the cuchshed. :lol

boutons_deux
12-29-2021, 02:58 PM
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/270238923_475280273956240_8679642150333523038_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=GS8I0m7cNoAAX9hkhoO&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AT_MBwYWXNyW-pzPS5SxhpqqHxX8W46Dezysl2Lj28Zgrw&oe=61D0E8A3

Thread
12-29-2021, 03:34 PM
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/270238923_475280273956240_8679642150333523038_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=GS8I0m7cNoAAX9hkhoO&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AT_MBwYWXNyW-pzPS5SxhpqqHxX8W46Dezysl2Lj28Zgrw&oe=61D0E8A3

Boiled down:::

President Trump: 400,000 Americans dead of the COVID.
MF Biden: 444,000 Americans dead of the COVID.
& counting, son.

Let us proceed...

pgardn
12-29-2021, 04:01 PM
:lmao go Cliff!

Sarcasm detector fail.

pgardn
12-29-2021, 04:02 PM
Yeah, stop virtue signalling your vaccine status. It's not a thing.

"Fuck Pubic Health, muh rights first!"

DMC
12-29-2021, 04:06 PM
"Fuck Pubic Health, muh rights first!"

:lmao

pgardn
12-29-2021, 04:09 PM
:lmao

Whoops...

Well. Lets use it.

How is you and your wife's gray bushes holding up?
Does it fall out as well?

pgardn
12-29-2021, 04:10 PM
"Fuck Public Health, muh rights first!"

from pubic to public

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 04:26 PM
New Record

CHICAGO — More than a year after the vaccine was rolled out, new cases of COVID-19 in the U.S. have soared to their highest level on record at over 265,000 per day on average, a surge driven largely by the highly contagious omicron variant.

New cases per day have more than doubled over the past two weeks, eclipsing the old mark of 250,000, set in mid-January, according to data kept by Johns Hopkins University.

Congrats Joe :toast

baseline bum
12-29-2021, 04:41 PM
22% test positivity in Texas, an all time high


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/28/omicron-texas-covid-19/

Kind of eager to see where Bexar County is. They have stayed pretty low the last few weeks but can't imagine it'll hold to the 2.2% positivity rate last published (for 12/11 to 12/17).

rjv
12-29-2021, 04:48 PM
Kind of eager to see where Bexar County is. They have stayed pretty low the last few weeks but can't imagine it'll hold to the 2.2% positivity rate last published (for 12/11 to 12/17).

densely populated areas are being hit the hardest, as expected. i'm sure the rates will climb for Bexar once schools open up after the break.

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 05:03 PM
Kind of eager to see where Bexar County is. They have stayed pretty low the last few weeks but can't imagine it'll hold to the 2.2% positivity rate last published (for 12/11 to 12/17).

My wife has had 7 pts test positive since Monday. It's spiking for sure. No monoclonals available in SA until sometime January. She managed to get one who is immunocompromised setup in Seguin.

baseline bum
12-29-2021, 05:09 PM
My wife has had 7 pts test positive since Monday. It's spiking for sure. No monoclonals available in SA until sometime January. She managed to get one who is immunocompromised setup in Seguin.

Have the cases been pretty light like omicron is being hyped as? Or too soon to tell?

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 05:14 PM
Have the cases been pretty light like omicron is being hyped as? Or too soon to tell?

All just cold symptoms so far. All old people except the immunocompromised one.

DarrinS
12-29-2021, 05:22 PM
Kind of eager to see where Bexar County is. They have stayed pretty low the last few weeks but can't imagine it'll hold to the 2.2% positivity rate last published (for 12/11 to 12/17).

https://www.ksat.com/news/2021/12/29/omicron-variant-taking-over-bexar-county-covid-19-cases/

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 05:30 PM
Texas runs out of monoclonal antibody treatment effective against omicron
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/587466-texas-runs-out-of-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-effective-against

tldr

Sotrovimab is the only monoclonal that still works against omicron. Supply limited to only the highest risk people. Unvaxxed shit out of luck.

DarrinS
12-29-2021, 05:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM2VgBm9pTI

Thread
12-29-2021, 05:45 PM
Florida with over 46,000 new cases today & nary a death.

tee, hee.

ChumpDumper
12-29-2021, 05:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM2VgBm9pTI

Too early to tell if they're "incidental" here. The sheer numbers might make that a moot point. We're just getting started on this wave.

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 06:25 PM
1476309670096777231

hater
12-29-2021, 06:38 PM
Florida with over 46,000 new cases today & nary a death.

tee, hee.

Restaurants bars and clubs packed to the brim


Cheers :tu

boutons_deux
12-29-2021, 07:05 PM
Florida 2800 covid deaths/ million remains way above the US of 2000

covid continues to kill in FL, but desantis is undercounting covid deaths for his political advantage

DarrinS
12-29-2021, 07:11 PM
Florida 2800 covid deaths/ million remains way above the US of 2000

covid continues to kill in FL, but desantis is undercounting covid deaths for his political advantage

Now do NY

hater
12-29-2021, 07:17 PM
https://twitter.com/WhoIsDCcapital/status/1475716073940946946?s=19

hater
12-29-2021, 07:18 PM
https://twitter.com/SmokingFarang/status/1476321370262982656?s=19

hater
12-29-2021, 07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/PropterMalone/status/1476312171780788233?s=19

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 08:17 PM
Kind of eager to see where Bexar County is. They have stayed pretty low the last few weeks but can't imagine it'll hold to the 2.2% positivity rate last published (for 12/11 to 12/17).


My wife has had 7 pts test positive since Monday. It's spiking for sure. No monoclonals available in SA until sometime January. She managed to get one who is immunocompromised setup in Seguin.

5 more today, rip-roaring

Guess I'm going to get an earful every evening for a while :lol

spurraider21
12-29-2021, 08:24 PM
1476309670096777231
vaccine skepticism coming from ivermectin pimp is pretty much standard operating procedure

oh hqc too :lol

Adam Lambert
12-29-2021, 08:50 PM
I still really don't understand vaccinated and boosted Snakeboy's motivation for pimping anti-vax propaganda that results in more people getting hospitalized and making his doctor wife's job more difficult.

Just divorce her already.

hater
12-29-2021, 08:52 PM
I still really don't understand vaccinated and boosted Snakeboy's motivation for pimping anti-vax propaganda that results in more people getting hospitalized and making his doctor wife's job more difficult.

Just divorce her already.

I dont understand the media piming of the biggest liar in the pandemic called Falsuchi

You pimp him too. Why? I dont understand that.

Adam Lambert
12-29-2021, 09:04 PM
I dont understand the media piming of the biggest liar in the pandemic called Falsuchi

You pimp him too. Why? I dont understand that.

When you dream at night, in what percentage of those dreams are you jerking off to Fauci and Hillary having sex in your bedroom?

hater
12-29-2021, 09:09 PM
When you dream at night, in what percentage of those dreams are you jerking off to Fauci and Hillary having sex in your bedroom?

Falsuchin Shillaryrd Pimp taking offense at me asking why people pimp Falsuchin the liar

:lmao

I dont undertand this :lol

Thread
12-29-2021, 09:10 PM
When you dream at night, in what percentage of those dreams are you jerking off to Fauci and Hillary having sex in your bedroom?

- "Go down there, and take Dale along."

- President Trump

Adam Lambert
12-29-2021, 09:28 PM
Falsuchin Shillaryrd Pimp taking offense at me asking why people pimp Falsuchin the liar

:lmao

I dont undertand this :lol

I never bring up Fauci. You can't stop talking about him.

Freud probably has a few theories as to why.

hater
12-29-2021, 09:40 PM
I never bring up Fauci. You can't stop talking about him.

Freud probably has a few theories as to why.

Oh but you do

Qnd you pimp him too

Nonstop

Dont undertand this tbqh


Why u pimp up a chronic liar?

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 10:38 PM
we both came back negative. probably some generic stomach bug or food poisoning

Did they take an anal swab?

ElNono
12-29-2021, 10:58 PM
Infection rate is of minor* value since the introduction of effective vaccines. From that point onwards, hospitalization and death rate are much better indicators, since they point directly at current vaccine effectiveness. One would expect that the gap between infected to hospitalized is substantially higher than it was before vaccines.

* it’s not entirely useless due to a relatively significant amount of unvaccined/non-boosted population + high risk people that can’t get vaccinated.

SnakeBoy
12-29-2021, 11:18 PM
Infection rate is of minor* value since the introduction of effective vaccines. From that point onwards, hospitalization and death rate are much better indicators, since they point directly at current vaccine effectiveness. One would expect that the gap between infected to hospitalized is substantially higher than it was before vaccines.

* it’s not entirely useless due to a relatively significant amount of unvaccined/non-boosted population + high risk people that can’t get vaccinated.

Cases don't matter now

http://www.idioms4you.com/img/angif-move-the-goalposts-def.gif

ElNono
12-29-2021, 11:30 PM
Cases don't matter now

http://www.idioms4you.com/img/angif-move-the-goalposts-def.gif

That’s not a counterpoint to what I posted. Give it another shot.

I know it sucks for you that Brandon was really successful with vaccine distribution and availability, and probably Trump would’ve been as well if he didn’t lose to him by a landslide, but c’est la vie…

Adam Lambert
12-29-2021, 11:56 PM
Cases don't matter now

http://www.idioms4you.com/img/angif-move-the-goalposts-def.gif

People here have been saying cases are less important than hospitalizations and deaths since around the time you were boasting that you would not take a booster.

Might be time for some of you to just sit back and listen.

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 01:35 AM
The most sick I've been during the whole pandemic was from the vaccine.

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 01:46 AM
Darrin virtue signaling again.

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 01:48 AM
Might be time for some of you to just sit back and listen.

I'm gonna shut down the virus

I heard it

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 01:55 AM
I'm gonna shut down the virus

I heard it


Totally shut down. Glad the adults are in charge now. What a relief.

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 01:56 AM
:lmao you tards miss your Trump.

:cry

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 02:00 AM
Chump likes my nuts. Can't help himself. Poor fellow

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 02:44 AM
Chump likes my nuts. Can't help himself. Poor fellow

Look at you pining for fucking Donald Trump.

What the fuck happened to make you such a pathetic little toad? Was it being so fat all that time? Was it being humiliated by the blacks? Was it your poor hygiene and general sickliness?

spurraider21
12-30-2021, 03:07 AM
Did they take an anal swab?
Yeah but it was really weird since the doctor had both of his hands on my shoulders while he did it

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 03:33 AM
That’s not a counterpoint to what I posted. Give it another shot.

I know it sucks for you that Brandon was really successful with vaccine distribution and availability, and probably Trump would’ve been as well if he didn’t lose to him by a landslide, but c’est la vie…

From shutting down the virus to hospitalizations/deaths are what really matters is a goalpost move

With hospitals getting overwhelmed and deaths headed to 1M it's not a good one tbh

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 03:45 AM
Dec 23 (Reuters) - The U.S. government has paused the distribution of COVID-19 antibody treatments from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals (REGN.O) and Eli Lilly (LLY.N), saying the therapies were unlikely to be effective against the Omicron coronavirus variant.

Dec 28 - Previously the CDC had estimated that as many as 73.2% of coronavirus cases nationwide were due to the Omicron variant on Dec. 18. The new estimate dials it down to 22.5% for the same date.

Oopsie, that'll put some bodies in the Brandon column

Thread
12-30-2021, 05:38 AM
:lmao you tards miss your Trump.

:cry

Countin' coup to 1/2-a-million on MF Biden is some solace though, Dumps.

ElNono
12-30-2021, 09:08 AM
From shutting down the virus to hospitalizations/deaths are what really matters is a goalpost move

With hospitals getting overwhelmed and deaths headed to 1M it's not a good one tbh

Except that what I said has nothing to do with what Brandon said or didn’t say, it applies evenly no matter who the POTUS is.

And nobody is stopping you from posting current hospitalization and death rates to compare against pre-vaccine availability. That would actually be a useful metric.

hater
12-30-2021, 09:25 AM
Cases don't matter now

http://www.idioms4you.com/img/angif-move-the-goalposts-def.gif

Goal relocation operation successful :lmao

hater
12-30-2021, 09:26 AM
The most sick I've been during the whole pandemic was from the vaccine.

:lol

hater
12-30-2021, 09:32 AM
:lmao cdc

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1476254450666901515?s=19

hater
12-30-2021, 09:36 AM
:lmao

Even dr DingDong piling on cdc

:lol cdc

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1476413094003978245?s=19

hater
12-30-2021, 09:38 AM
https://twitter.com/consent_factory/status/1476200997991202818?s=19

:lmao cnn

hater
12-30-2021, 09:39 AM
https://twitter.com/ajroo/status/1476559135747551232?s=19

hater
12-30-2021, 09:45 AM
:lmao :lol :lmao

https://twitter.com/ephraimestell23/status/1473175598495252480?s=19

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 09:54 AM
:lol "rules"

hater just got more freedom he claims he wants and he's upset about it.

hater also said the pandemic is over

hater
12-30-2021, 09:59 AM
Chumps still with the cdc :lmao :lol

Muppet

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 10:17 AM
Chumps still with the cdc :lmao :lol

Muppethater still says the pandemic is over and everyone should have no restrictions :lol

DMC
12-30-2021, 10:22 AM
https://twitter.com/consent_factory/status/1476200997991202818?s=19

:lmao cnn

I called it

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 10:24 AM
:lol still begging

DMC
12-30-2021, 10:27 AM
CDC: Masks are useless against COVID
ST Left: yep, keep masks for medical workers
CDC: We recommend masks if you are infected or working with infected people
ST Left: yep, makes sense.
CDC: Everyone should wear masks
ST Left: I have mine on just in case, got it on Amazon. Getting my "I support the CDC" shirt soon
CDC: Masks are useless other than medical grade
ST Left: That's what we said

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 10:31 AM
DMC: masks are placebos (no qualifier)

ElNono
12-30-2021, 10:32 AM
CDC: Masks are useless other than medical grade

link?

hater
12-30-2021, 10:43 AM
CDC: Masks are useless against COVID
ST Left: yep, keep masks for medical workers
CDC: We recommend masks if you are infected or working with infected people
ST Left: yep, makes sense.
CDC: Everyone should wear masks
ST Left: I have mine on just in case, got it on Amazon. Getting my "I support the CDC" shirt soon
CDC: Masks are useless other than medical grade
ST Left: That's what we said

:lmao

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 10:46 AM
Masks have always been about mitigation and down the list under distancing and ventilation. People have focused on them because they're visible.

Adam Lambert
12-30-2021, 10:48 AM
ST Right: The "pandemic" is media sensationalism to undermine Donald Trump.
ST Right: Okay maybe this thing is real but I'm not going to do anything differently than before.
ST Right: Yeah I'm staying home most of the time but only because of the unnecessary liberal shutdown.
ST Right: The media keeps pushing these unproven vaccines on us, I don't trust them.
ST Right: I got my vaccine, but hell if I'm gonna get a booster shot from Big Pharma.
ST Right: I got my booster shot, but hell if I'm gonna get a second booster shot from Big Pharma.
ST Right: Look! The CDC updated its recommendations. Can't make up their minds, LOL libs

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 10:49 AM
CDC: Masks are useless against COVID
ST Left: yep, keep masks for medical workers
CDC: We recommend masks if you are infected or working with infected people
ST Left: yep, makes sense.
CDC: Everyone should wear masks
ST Left: I have mine on just in case, got it on Amazon. Getting my "I support the CDC" shirt soon
CDC: Masks are useless other than medical grade
ST Left: That's what we said

:lol

Adam Lambert
12-30-2021, 10:55 AM
I'm gonna shut down the virus

I heard it

The virus can't be shut down. So the obvious next step is to go full Q-tard!

Winehole23
12-30-2021, 10:56 AM
link?DMC is authoritatively wrong, again


https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection

Winehole23
12-30-2021, 10:57 AM
the study: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/49/e2110117118

ElNono
12-30-2021, 10:59 AM
ST Right: The "pandemic" is media sensationalism to undermine Donald Trump.
ST Right: Okay maybe this thing is real but I'm not going to do anything differently than before.
ST Right: Yeah I'm staying home most of the time but only because of the unnecessary liberal shutdown.
ST Right: The media keeps pushing these unproven vaccines on us, I don't trust them.
ST Right: I got my vaccine, but hell if I'm gonna get a booster shot from Big Pharma.
ST Right: I got my booster shot, but hell if I'm gonna get a second booster shot from Big Pharma.
ST Right: Look! The CDC updated its recommendations. Can't make up their minds, LOL libs

:lol

You forgot “masks are a placebo”

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 11:03 AM
ST Right: The "pandemic" is media sensationalism to undermine Donald Trump.
ST Right: Okay maybe this thing is real but I'm not going to do anything differently than before.
ST Right: Yeah I'm staying home most of the time but only because of the unnecessary liberal shutdown.
ST Right: The media keeps pushing these unproven vaccines on us, I don't trust them.
ST Right: I got my vaccine, but hell if I'm gonna get a booster shot from Big Pharma.
ST Right: I got my booster shot, but hell if I'm gonna get a second booster shot from Big Pharma.
ST Right: Look! The CDC updated its recommendations. Can't make up their minds, LOL libs
:lol

:lol

You forgot “masks are a placebo”
:lmao

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 11:05 AM
The virus can't be shut down.

:tu

rjv
12-30-2021, 11:07 AM
interestingly enough, as the virus evolves, all too many narratives are either trapped in a loop or authored by those who cannot comprehend the notion of infectious disease dynamics.

Winehole23
12-30-2021, 11:30 AM
Southern Australia: the assumption of milder disease progression for Omicron has more or less been borne out, but the massive caseload threatens to swamp hospitals with a swiftness.

1476343523217743872

Winehole23
12-30-2021, 11:31 AM
Snap poll:

When it starts raining harder, do you throw away your umbrella?

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 11:32 AM
Southern Australia: the assumption of milder disease progression for Omicron has more or less been borne out, but the massive caseload threatens to swamp hospitals with a swiftness.

1476343523217743872Yeah the local charts are mirroring the start of that wave. January is gonna be rough. Hope the power stays on.

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 11:45 AM
Snap poll:

When it starts raining harder, do you throw away your umbrella?

You carry an umbrella?

DMC
12-30-2021, 11:52 AM
You carry an umbrella?

You wear the mask to keep parts of your face dry. It's better than nothing.

Winehole23
12-30-2021, 11:53 AM
DeSantis is bunkered down or has COVID. Last public appearance was December 17th, when he appeared on Fox News to waffle about getting the booster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH2-ExUXwAAToDx?format=jpg&name=900x900

DMC
12-30-2021, 12:02 PM
WH, if there's ever a real ELE, you'll die from orgasmic poisoning.

Winehole23
12-30-2021, 12:15 PM
WH, if there's ever a real ELE, you'll die from orgasmic poisoning.what's an ELE?

Thread
12-30-2021, 12:17 PM
what's an ELE?

My creation...An Extinction Level Event.

From the film -Deep Impact- where reporter Tia Leoni is tracking this politician in the belief that he is having an illicit affair with a girl named Elie. He says "no"---she heads to the library, holes up in an ante room with a CPU and the Internet and runs the letters.

hater
12-30-2021, 12:36 PM
DeSantis is bunkered down or has COVID. Last public appearance was December 17th, when he appeared on Fox News to waffle about getting the booster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH2-ExUXwAAToDx?format=jpg&name=900x900

Joe is on vacation too

And where is Kagala? :lmao

DMC
12-30-2021, 01:02 PM
link?

"Seriously people - STOP BUYING MASKS!" Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted. "They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!"

The upper-case emphasis is all his, and shows how adamant he is that people stick to the script for prevention offered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. His tweet links to that script, which includes a section that essentially agrees with Adams' take on masks.

Coronavirus, explained:Everything to know about the virus alarming the world (USA Today)

"CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19," the CDC says. "Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others."

DMC
12-30-2021, 01:03 PM
Joe is on vacation too

And where is Kagala? :lmao

Obviously they all have COVID.

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 01:04 PM
We know where Brandon is

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/29/14/52325115-10351263-Jill_and_Joe_Biden_toss_a_ball_to_each_other_as_th ey_take_their_-a-3_1640786438927.jpg

hater
12-30-2021, 01:06 PM
https://twitter.com/BidenTracking/status/1476597997731471360?s=19

hater
12-30-2021, 01:07 PM
https://twitter.com/SWGaspar/status/1476295604309569541?s=19

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 01:10 PM
We know where Brandon is

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/29/14/52325115-10351263-Jill_and_Joe_Biden_toss_a_ball_to_each_other_as_th ey_take_their_-a-3_1640786438927.jpg

Do you need him right now to help you with your economy or something?

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 01:13 PM
https://twitter.com/SWGaspar/status/1476295604309569541?s=19

Joe Biden said he will be “a president who seeks not to divide, but unify the country”

Promises Made, Promises Kept

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 01:15 PM
Netherlands Announces Plan To Give People Up to Six Doses of COVID Vaccine
https://www.newsweek.com/netherlands-vaccination-booster-coronavirus-covid-shot-1664296

baseline bum
12-30-2021, 01:26 PM
https://twitter.com/BidenTracking/status/1476597997731471360?s=19

LOL antivaxxers dying to own Biden

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 01:35 PM
LOL antivaxxers dying to own Biden

Covid deaths good again

baseline bum
12-30-2021, 01:49 PM
Covid deaths good again

Can't blame Biden for the MAGA crew not getting vaccinated. Maybe blame Darwin for their deaths.

rjv
12-30-2021, 01:52 PM
Can't blame Biden for the MAGA crew not getting vaccinated. Maybe blame Darwin for their deaths.

:bobo

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 01:56 PM
Can't blame Biden

I know you're not allowed

2020 - I'll shut down the virus
2021 - No Federal solution, nothing I can do for you Jack

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 02:01 PM
I know you're not allowed

2020 - I'll shut down the virus
2021 - No Federal solution, nothing I can do for you Jack

Do you blame Biden for these deaths?

Yes or no.

hater
12-30-2021, 02:06 PM
Can't blame Biden

Oh yes we can

Go Brandon

hater
12-30-2021, 02:06 PM
Do you blame Biden for these deaths?

Yes or no.

Absolutely

Blake
12-30-2021, 02:08 PM
Snap poll:

When it starts raining harder, do you throw away your umbrella?

The rain is just sniffles

baseline bum
12-30-2021, 02:23 PM
Oh yes we can

Go Brandon

Why do you blame Biden for MAGAtards not getting vaccinated?

Adam Lambert
12-30-2021, 03:14 PM
Congrats Joe, you did it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGq2W6mXsAsXazv?format=png&name=large

:tu

hater
12-30-2021, 04:27 PM
:wow

https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1476654536957833220?s=19

I might have underestimated this Omicrap shit.

I still think its great for us in the long run as its much milder but Ostertag is right if we.lose 15% or more of our healthcare. Thats not good.

This will be great for us in the long run but next month or 2 will be rough.

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 04:38 PM
:wow

https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1476654536957833220?s=19

I might have underestimated this Omicrap shit.

I still think its great for us in the long run as its much milder but Ostertag is right if we.lose 15% or more of our healthcare. Thats not good.

This will be great for us in the long run but next month or 2 will be rough.


Pandemic is over. Time to party :tu

hater
12-30-2021, 04:40 PM
Still partying nig

Its ova for me.

Still next few weeks gonna hurt. Cheers :tu

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 04:41 PM
Pandemic is over. Time to party :tu

Still partying nig

Its ova for me.

Still next few weeks gonna hurt. Cheers :tu:lmao hater

hater
12-30-2021, 04:48 PM
:lmao hater

Ova fo me

Going to a bar later. Will be packed as shit in florida.

Cheers :tu

ChumpDumper
12-30-2021, 04:54 PM
Ova fo me

Going to a bar later. Will be packed as shit in florida.

Cheers :tuYou said it was over for everyone in September.

Why can't you just admit it?

Thread
12-30-2021, 04:56 PM
Ova fo me

Going to a bar later. Will be packed as shit in florida.

Cheers :tu

In the word by "John Coffey" aka (JC)..."Careful."

-The Green Mile-

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 04:56 PM
:wow

https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1476654536957833220?s=19

I might have underestimated this Omicrap shit.

I still think its great for us in the long run as its much milder but Ostertag is right if we.lose 15% or more of our healthcare. Thats not good.

This will be great for us in the long run but next month or 2 will be rough.

What's happening is the vaxxed & boosted are spreading it like crazy. Unvaxxed blacks and hispanics are going to take it on the chin, but I guess they made their choice.

Thread
12-30-2021, 04:58 PM
:wow

https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1476654536957833220?s=19

I might have underestimated this Omicrap shit.

I still think its great for us in the long run as its much milder but Ostertag is right if we.lose 15% or more of our healthcare. Thats not good.

This will be great for us in the long run but next month or 2 will be rough.

Bend over. Dumps will show ya fuckin' rough.

hater
12-30-2021, 04:59 PM
In the word by "John Coffey" aka (JC)..."Careful."

-The Green Mile-

:tu

I actually want Omicron in my body

Will be a good booster :tu


Cheers :tu

Thread
12-30-2021, 05:19 PM
:tu

I actually want Omicron in my body

Will be a good booster :tu


Cheers :tu

You just think you do. When you get it..."Oh, God, please help me. I promise I'll do good and I won't be so stubborn on Spurs Talk. Oh, I'm so sick. Help me! Amen.........Ma! Bring me another toasted cheese and some fresh batteries for the remote. Double A's. Thanks, ma. And I love you and dad."

hater
12-30-2021, 05:24 PM
You just think you do. When you get it..."Oh, God, please help me. I promise I'll do good and I won't be so stubborn on Spurs Talk. Oh, I'm so sick. Help me! Amen.........Ma! Bring me another toasted cheese and some fresh batteries for the remote. Double A's. Thanks, ma. And I love you and dad."

We shall see. We all gonna get it next few weeks tbqh.

No hiding from this. Thank God its mild :tu

Cheers :tu

hater
12-30-2021, 05:44 PM
I personally would rather get it at the bar getting blasted than from my coworker :lol

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 05:53 PM
One of my kids tested positive today, so I'm sure I'll get it in the next day or two.

:toast

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 05:57 PM
One of my kids tested positive today, so I'm sure I'll get it in the next day or two.

:toast

Home test kit?

hater
12-30-2021, 05:58 PM
One of my kids tested positive today, so I'm sure I'll get it in the next day or two.

:toast

Congrats nig :tu

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 05:59 PM
I personally would rather get it at the bar getting blasted than from my coworker :lol

Just avoid vaxxed and boosted. They are infected and dangerous.

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 06:05 PM
Home test kit?

Yep

hater
12-30-2021, 06:09 PM
Just avoid vaxxed and boosted. They are infected and dangerous.

Agreed

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 06:26 PM
Yep

Ok. I'm hearing plenty of negatives on home tests but positive on pcr cases. Not sure how well they work on omicron.

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 06:47 PM
Ok. I'm hearing plenty of negatives on home tests but positive on pcr cases. Not sure how well they work on omicron.

Not sure. The only one in the house with symptoms was the only one who tested positive. Maybe coincidence?

ElNono
12-30-2021, 07:03 PM
"Seriously people - STOP BUYING MASKS!" Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted. "They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!"

The upper-case emphasis is all his, and shows how adamant he is that people stick to the script for prevention offered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. His tweet links to that script, which includes a section that essentially agrees with Adams' take on masks.

Coronavirus, explained:Everything to know about the virus alarming the world (USA Today)

"CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19," the CDC says. "Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others."

Not recommend <> do not work. Plus, that was on the early days of the pandemic. The CDC revisited this upon new studies and has recommended masking for a long ass time now.

As far as previous administration officials, who downplayed the virus and cost them the White House, there’s nothing else to add on how wrong they were.

ElNono
12-30-2021, 07:06 PM
:wow

https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1476654536957833220?s=19

I might have underestimated this Omicrap shit.

I still think its great for us in the long run as its much milder but Ostertag is right if we.lose 15% or more of our healthcare. Thats not good.

This will be great for us in the long run but next month or 2 will be rough.

Follow the science, get a booster :tu

ElNono
12-30-2021, 07:08 PM
What's happening is the vaxxed & boosted are spreading it like crazy. Unvaxxed blacks and hispanics are going to take it on the chin, but I guess they made their choice.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGq2W6mXsAsXazv?format=png&name=large

That’s a lot of Republican blacks and Hispanics…

ElNono
12-30-2021, 07:10 PM
One of my kids tested positive today, so I'm sure I'll get it in the next day or two.

:toast

Hopefully you avoid the bar for the next two weeks…

GWS

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 07:19 PM
Hopefully you avoid the bar for the next two weeks…

GWS


Two weeks?


Don't you keep up with CDC?

ElNono
12-30-2021, 07:28 PM
Two weeks?

Don't you keep up with CDC?

The CDC issues guidelines. You won’t get a ticket for not following them.

I just thought you cared about your drinking buddies, but im probably wrong, tbh

DarrinS
12-30-2021, 07:31 PM
The CDC issues guidelines. You won’t get a ticket for not following them.

I just thought you cared about your drinking buddies, but im probably wrong, tbh


How long do you think people are infectious? It ain't 14 days.

ElNono
12-30-2021, 07:44 PM
How long do you think people are infectious? It ain't 14 days.

Didn’t we establish that this thing can have an incubation period of almost a week? (and that was one of the reasons why it was much more annoying than the flu). IIRC, once the positive test comes back, it varies from 4 to 12 days. My understanding for the wide range is that not everyone is symptomatic right away and goes get tested.

baseline bum
12-30-2021, 07:55 PM
Ok. I'm hearing plenty of negatives on home tests but positive on pcr cases. Not sure how well they work on omicron.

Don't the rapid tests not really work that well before you're symptomatic while the PCR can catch a positive result a lot earlier?

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 08:09 PM
Don't the rapid tests not really work that well before you're symptomatic while the PCR can catch a positive result a lot earlier?

PCR has always been more sensitive. I'm hearing of symptomatic people testing negative at home and then getting pcr and testing positve.

The official line for a month has been maybe less sensitive still checking...

"Government scientists have been checking to make sure the rapid tests still work as each new variant comes along. And this week, the Food and Drug Administration said preliminary research indicates they detect omicron, but may have reduced sensitivity. The agency noted it's still studying how the tests perform with the variant, which was first detected in late November."

pgardn
12-30-2021, 08:15 PM
Not recommend <> do not work. Plus, that was on the early days of the pandemic. The CDC revisited this upon new studies and has recommended masking for a long ass time now.

As far as previous administration officials, who downplayed the virus and cost them the White House, there’s nothing else to add on how wrong they were.

This is DMC and hater methodology. Take some statement with a rapidly changing situation and then present it anachronistically to try and prove a point about how much bad advice is presently being given when its months or years old. They cant handle fluid situations where what we know and how sure we are about what we know, are in flux. so they play games with it. Or go to some sideshow medical doctor who wants to be on youtube for income (hater specialty).

pgardn
12-30-2021, 08:18 PM
Don't the rapid tests not really work that well before you're symptomatic while the PCR can catch a positive result a lot earlier?

The both have pros and cons and are really should be used for different situations.
both can be useful and both can give results that might be confusing. PCR tests can show a + possibly a good time later in an infection (ex. after you are shedding virus)

PCR takes too long to process for some answers you might want quickly. But since it tests directly for viral RNA it ismore accurate. Rapid test just tests for viral proteins.

T. Blue I hope your wife is doing well.

hater
12-30-2021, 08:34 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1476437555717541893?s=19

hater
12-30-2021, 08:35 PM
Follow the science, get a booster :tu

No thanks. Im good

SnakeBoy
12-30-2021, 08:37 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1476437555717541893?s=19

:lol Elon is so funny these days

spurraider21
12-30-2021, 09:02 PM
elon should compare the number of unvaccinated covid deaths to the number of deaths from vaccines

ElNono
12-30-2021, 09:31 PM
Marines kick out 206 troops for refusing Covid-19 vaccine
Overall, 95 percent of all active-duty Marines have received at least the first dose.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/30/marines-kick-out-troops-covid-vaccine-526266

DMC
12-30-2021, 09:40 PM
Not recommend <> do not work. Plus, that was on the early days of the pandemic. The CDC revisited this upon new studies and has recommended masking for a long ass time now.

As far as previous administration officials, who downplayed the virus and cost them the White House, there’s nothing else to add on how wrong they were.

The surgeon general interpreted that differently

DMC
12-30-2021, 09:44 PM
Marines kick out 206 troops for refusing Covid-19 vaccine
Overall, 95 percent of all active-duty Marines have received at least the first dose.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/30/marines-kick-out-troops-covid-vaccine-526266

We should blame the commander in chief tbh

ElNono
12-30-2021, 09:47 PM
The surgeon general interpreted that differently

The Surgeon General at the time didn’t have the data we had since and was part of an administration that claimed we had 15 cases going down to zero very rapidly and generally (erroneously) downplayed the pandemic. He was wrong, it happens.
It cost him and his boss their jobs.

ElNono
12-30-2021, 09:47 PM
We should blame the commander in chief tbh

Blame? I’ll say celebrate.

DMC
12-30-2021, 09:51 PM
The Surgeon General at the time didn’t have the data we had since and was part of an administration that claimed we had 15 cases going down to zero very rapidly and generally (erroneously) downplayed the pandemic. He was wrong, it happens.
It cost him and his boss their jobs.

Still said it, and even the article said Jerome was linking the CDC tweet that supported his comment.

So... I didn't say they still feel that way, but they certainly said it.

Ef-man
12-30-2021, 11:00 PM
^^^

https://media.giphy.com/media/803T2bGtFmSg8/giphy-downsized-large.gif

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:02 AM
Still said it, and even the article said Jerome was linking the CDC tweet that supported his comment.

So... I didn't say they still feel that way, but they certainly said it.

It was wrong then and it’s wrong now…

Th'Pusher
12-31-2021, 12:14 AM
It was wrong then and it’s wrong now…

But it was said! That’s what’s important

DMC
12-31-2021, 12:24 AM
CDC: Masks are useless against COVID
ST Left: yep, keep masks for medical workers
CDC: We recommend masks if you are infected or working with infected people
ST Left: yep, makes sense.
CDC: Everyone should wear masks
ST Left: I have mine on just in case, got it on Amazon. Getting my "I support the CDC" shirt soon
CDC: Masks are useless other than medical grade
ST Left: That's what we said


link?


It was wrong then and it’s wrong now…

:lol that was my point

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:33 AM
:lol that was my point

Except the CDC never said masks are useless unless medical grade. That’s exactly what I called out.

DMC
12-31-2021, 01:26 AM
Except the CDC never said masks are useless unless medical grade. That’s exactly what I called out.

They said masks do not protect you against COVID yet they wanted to preserve masks for HC providers. Shit or get off the pot.

DMC
12-31-2021, 01:31 AM
"using masks offers no health benefits against COVID and we recommend against it" -CDC

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 01:51 AM
That COVID is airborne wasn't known to a scientific certainty then. It is now.

Surely you're aware that time is linear and that science is a process, right?

That said, countries that dealt more intensively with MERS -- South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore -- followed the precautionary principle instead of science on a hunch that turned out to be good.

DMC
12-31-2021, 02:06 AM
That COVID is airborne wasn't known to a scientific certainty then. It is now.

Surely you're aware that time is linear and that science is a process, right?

That said, countries that dealt more intensively with MERS -- South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore -- followed the precautionary principle instead of science on a hunch that turned out to be good.

We didn't know how fast we were going so we didn't feel the need for seatbelts.

Not knowing, then issuing guidance that states masks are ineffective isn't "following the science".

Do you ever read shit you post? What background in science do you have? You don't make any sense.

spurraider21
12-31-2021, 02:06 AM
DMC:


https://youtu.be/U3Ak-SmyHHQ

DMC
12-31-2021, 02:17 AM
Philo:

https://image.freepik.com/free-photo/little-pig-stuck-his-nose-through-boards-pigsty-door_273196-668.jpg

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 02:29 AM
We didn't know how fast we were going so we didn't feel the need for seatbelts.

Not knowing, then issuing guidance that states masks are ineffective isn't "following the science".

Do you ever read shit you post? What background in science do you have? You don't make any sense.I took six years each of science and math at a STEM intensive high-school, admittedly it wasn't my metier, but I placed out of most of the biology and chemistry I might have been capable of completing in college, 15 credit hours or so.

I don't recall saying the CDC followed the science, what I was trying to say -- I think it was fairly clear -- is that the CDC got it wrong. That East Asia's hunches were better than the putative science of our go to public health institution.

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 02:37 AM
A good hunch at times not only beats science, sometimes it turns out to be the science. Subjective qualities like intuition and comparative evaluation of emergent phenomena are part of the process, for better and for worse.

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 03:17 AM
Science isn't discredited by the mistakes if it owns the mistakes and continues to struggle toward truth. The way to truth is through error, how could it be otherwise with biased and flawed participants?

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 04:53 AM
But I gather that the CDC not following the science or getting it wrong is actually a side issue for DMC. His main gripe -- a valid one, imho -- is that the CDC covered up the shortage of PPE with a lie to protect the guild from the public. This was a heinous and momentous mistake, one of many. Telling vaccinated folks to throw their masks away last spring was another. Not ramping up testing and contact tracing and genomic sequencing were others. So was not waiving IP rights on vaccines, and so was failing to emphasize practical solutions to airborne transmission. The back to normal narrative under Biden is in some ways even stronger than the same under Trump -- this time there's no safety net for individuals and businesses.

For better and for worse, public health institutions are political. Carrying political narratives is an occupational hazard that's hazardous to the public, and the hazard didn't cease with the alternation of office. That doesn't mean that the institutions are worthless, if they were, their misuse wouldn't be a scandal. The point is to hold them accountable and change them, not to throw them away because they screwed up. Relying on individual choice to solve systematic problems is more or less cynical resignation to the same.

LaMarcus Bryant
12-31-2021, 08:27 AM
They should have used those bitch ass loud siren amber alert mechanisms on our smart phones to alert everyone of the new CDC quarantine guidelines. There's a group of people out there that stay outta their way to remain ignorant over the entire sick/testing/quarantine process until they're actually sick then they flood the system.

hater
12-31-2021, 08:46 AM
Ma niga ocasio living it up in Florida :tu

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1476773086817050626?s=19

Blake
12-31-2021, 09:18 AM
Ma niga ocasio living it up in Florida :tu

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1476773086817050626?s=19

Lol someone trying to do a gotcha because Cruz got shit on for fleeing Texas during the outage.

Ef-man
12-31-2021, 09:26 AM
Lol someone trying to do a gotcha because Cruz got shit on for fleeing Texas during the outage.

As DeSantis is missing in action, a leader in public is a nice thing to see.

Ef-man
12-31-2021, 09:28 AM
I took six years each of science and math at a STEM intensive high-school, admittedly it wasn't my metier, but I placed out of most of the biology and chemistry I might have been capable of completing in college, 15 credit hours or so.

I don't recall saying the CDC followed the science, what I was trying to say -- I think it was fairly clear -- is that the CDC got it wrong. That East Asia's hunches were better than the putative science of our go to public health institution.

Typical dmc, he bloviated to say shit, period.

hater
12-31-2021, 09:40 AM
Lol someone trying to do a gotcha because Cruz got shit on for fleeing Texas during the outage.

Gottem :lol

Blake
12-31-2021, 09:53 AM
Gottem :lol

What are the new yorkers currently suffering from that she needs to be there for?

DMC
12-31-2021, 10:56 AM
What are the new yorkers currently suffering from that she needs to be there for?

He just told you he trolled you and you still want to discuss it? :lol

DMC
12-31-2021, 10:57 AM
Typical dmc, he bloviated to say shit, period.

Typical nowhere man, sniffing my backside again. That's become your sole purpose in life :lol

Careful, Th'Pusher might get jealous if you steal some of his fart aroma. :lol

hater
12-31-2021, 11:06 AM
risk of ending up in the hospital is two-thirds lower with Omicron, according to new UK research

The UK Health Security Agency has said that the Omicron variant of Covid-19 is much less likely to cause hospitalization than the Delta variant. The latest data suggests the risk is one-third of that for Delta

hater
12-31-2021, 11:07 AM
Got the mild symptoms today nigs.

Ce la vi :lol

DMC
12-31-2021, 11:08 AM
I took six years each of science and math at a STEM intensive high-school, admittedly it wasn't my metier, but I placed out of most of the biology and chemistry I might have been capable of completing in college, 15 credit hours or so.

I don't recall saying the CDC followed the science, what I was trying to say -- I think it was fairly clear -- is that the CDC got it wrong. That East Asia's hunches were better than the putative science of our go to public health institution.:lol You said the other countries didn't follow the science and chose to wear masks. If that's not saying the opposite is true for the CDC, then WTF are you even talking about (or do you even know?). So you have a 7th - 12th grade science background. Good to know.


A good hunch at times not only beats science, sometimes it turns out to be the science. Subjective qualities like intuition and comparative evaluation of emergent phenomena are part of the process, for better and for worse.That reads like it's going to be followed by some acoustic guitar playing and a song about habitats and ecosystems.

Science isn't discredited by the mistakes if it owns the mistakes and continues to struggle toward truth. The way to truth is through error, how could it be otherwise with biased and flawed participants?
Science doesn't make mistakes. Stop equating the CDC with science. You say it's political below. Is it political science? If the CDC was following the science, they'd have come to the same conclusion for the general public as they did for healthcare workers. When the mouthpiece for scientific discovery is a puppet for an administration, you can basically wipe your ass with their findings. The reason people trust science (for the most part) is because it has no agenda other than finding facts. Once organizations sully that with political agendas, once they lie to the public "for their own good", then they are worse than useless. Having no instructions is better than having dishonest/wrong instructions.

But I gather that the CDC not following the science or getting it wrong is actually a side issue for DMC. His main gripe -- a valid one, imho -- is that the CDC covered up the shortage of PPE with a lie to protect the guild from the public. This was a heinous and momentous mistake, one of many. Telling vaccinated folks to throw their masks away last spring was another. Not ramping up testing and contact tracing and genomic sequencing were others. So was not waiving IP rights on vaccines, and so was failing to emphasize practical solutions to airborne transmission. The back to normal narrative under Biden is in some ways even stronger than the same under Trump -- this time there's no safety net for individuals and businesses.

For better and for worse, public health institutions are political. Carrying political narratives is an occupational hazard that's hazardous to the public, and the hazard didn't cease with the alternation of office. That doesn't mean that the institutions are worthless, if they were, their misuse wouldn't be a scandal. The point is to hold them accountable and change them, not to throw them away because they screwed up. Relying on individual choice to solve systematic problems is more or less cynical resignation to the same.

But the left wanted to trust this political institution with the gun control narrative, to do their unbiased research for reasons of enacting policy.

Oh if we could just put all of our eggs in that publicly funded basket and let the government shield us from the uncomfortable facts and keep us safe in our pastures..

:lol

DMC
12-31-2021, 11:08 AM
Got the mild symptoms today nigs.

Ce la vi :lol

Was good to know you, say hi to those 70 virgins for me.

Thread
12-31-2021, 11:20 AM
Science doesn't make mistakes. Stop equating the CDC with science. You say it's political below. Is it political science? If the CDC was following the science, they'd have come to the same conclusion for the general public as they did for healthcare workers. When the mouthpiece for scientific discovery is a puppet for an administration, you can basically wipe your ass with their findings. The reason people trust science (for the most part) is because it has no agenda other than finding facts. Once organizations sully that with political agendas, once they lie to the public "for their own good", then they are worse than useless. Having no instructions is better than having dishonest/wrong instructions.

DMC sticks it priceless. It's his finest hour of the old year.

D M C

ElNono
12-31-2021, 11:21 AM
They said masks do not protect you against COVID yet they wanted to preserve masks for HC providers. Shit or get off the pot.


"using masks offers no health benefits against COVID and we recommend against it" -CDC

That’s still doesn’t say what you claimed the CDC said. Nothing about masks being useless or needing to be medical grade. If you misspoke, that’s ok.

ElNono
12-31-2021, 11:24 AM
Got the mild symptoms today nigs.

Ce la vi :lol

Get well soon. Hopefully all those years of sniffing glue don’t come back to haunt you, tbh

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 11:26 AM
:lol You said the other countries didn't follow the science and chose to wear masks. If that's not saying the opposite is true for the CDC, then WTF are you even talking about (or do you even know?). So you have a 7th - 12th grade science background. Good to know.

That reads like it's going to be followed by some acoustic guitar playing and a song about habitats and ecosystems.

Science doesn't make mistakes. Stop equating the CDC with science. You say it's political below. Is it political science? If the CDC was following the science, they'd have come to the same conclusion for the general public as they did for healthcare workers. When the mouthpiece for scientific discovery is a puppet for an administration, you can basically wipe your ass with their findings. The reason people trust science (for the most part) is because it has no agenda other than finding facts. Once organizations sully that with political agendas, once they lie to the public "for their own good", then they are worse than useless. Having no instructions is better than having dishonest/wrong instructions.


But the left wanted to trust this political institution with the gun control narrative, to do their unbiased research for reasons of enacting policy.

Oh if we could just put all of our eggs in that publicly funded basket and let the government shield us from the uncomfortable facts and keep us safe in our pastures..

:lolThis post has most of your major tropes: Voice-throwing, semantic parsing, bald assertion, personal psychologizing and fist shaking at the left.

Great work, I'm a big fan!

hater
12-31-2021, 11:28 AM
Was good to know you, say hi to those 70 virgins for me.

:tu

hater
12-31-2021, 11:28 AM
Get well soon. Hopefully all those years of sniffing glue don’t come back to haunt you, tbh

:tu

Thread
12-31-2021, 11:33 AM
This post has most of your major tropes: Voice-throwing, semantic parsing, bald assertion, personal psychologizing and fist shaking at the left.

Great work, I'm a big fan!

He cleaned your fuckin' clock you little shit, you.

Blake
12-31-2021, 11:34 AM
He just told you he trolled you and you still want to discuss it? :lol

I don't speak that language. Thanks for translating

Cuck Ross
12-31-2021, 11:41 AM
That COVID is airborne wasn't known to a scientific certainty then. It is now.

Surely you're aware that time is linear and that science is a process, right?

That said, countries that dealt more intensively with MERS -- South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore -- followed the precautionary principle instead of science on a hunch that turned out to be good.

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Adam Lambert
12-31-2021, 11:44 AM
Dp

Adam Lambert
12-31-2021, 11:46 AM
lol cases
lol raw numbers instead of infection %
lol "I was told masks prevent infection!"

ElNono
12-31-2021, 11:46 AM
1473730009273675779

He probably missed CNN when South Korea relaxed most all their controls (we discussed that here a few weeks ago), which is strange because cuckservatives seem to be the #1 viewers of CNN, tbh

LaMarcus Bryant
12-31-2021, 11:47 AM
Cases haven't mattered in so many months, that so much time is wasted even trolling and retrolling about cases is dumb lol

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 11:52 AM
Conflating uber contagious Omicron with the OG Rona and pretending that things that are true now have been true all along is an emerging trope...

Cuck Ross
12-31-2021, 11:53 AM
Cases haven't mattered in so many months, that so much time is wasted even trolling and retrolling about cases is dumb lol
:cry cases don’t matter anymore :cry

Thread
12-31-2021, 11:55 AM
He probably missed CNN when South Korea relaxed most all their controls (we discussed that here a few weeks ago), which is strange because cuckservatives seem to be the #1 viewers of CNN, tbh

...oh, absolutely, El, they're incensed no end that their Biden has eclipsed President Trump's COVID death count. I wouldn't a missed that for the world. The entire 2nd/3rd string (with the exception of Tapper) has been in this week. Monday should be a cascade of angst as the first stringers come out, guns a blazin', a concentratin' on the 1-6 stuff, keepin' COVID on the back burner as much as humanly possible, cept the kids part. That's a money maker and THEY believe a last ditch goose to get the old VACCINATION's a movin' on up.

July 2 weekend:::49.1% fully vaxxed.
6-SIX-6 months later...
January 1 weekend:::62% fully vaxxed.

Let us proceed...

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 11:56 AM
:cry cases don’t matter anymore :crythey never mattered to you til now

Cuck Ross
12-31-2021, 11:59 AM
they never mattered to you til now
That’s not the gotcha you think it is.

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 12:01 PM
That’s not the gotcha you think it is.Nor are your case graphs. They don't prove that masks don't protect people.

Cuck Ross
12-31-2021, 12:02 PM
Fauci finally hopped on the with Covid/from Covid hospitalization over reporting train :lol

Cuck Ross
12-31-2021, 12:04 PM
Nor are your case graphs. They don't prove that masks don't protect people.
You’re stung. It’s obvious.

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 12:04 PM
:lol

DMC
12-31-2021, 12:07 PM
That’s still doesn’t say what you claimed the CDC said. Nothing about masks being useless or needing to be medical grade. If you misspoke, that’s ok.

Wut? :lol

"offers no benefits against COVID"

Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Robert Redfield advised prioritizing masks for frontline health care workers and stated there was "no role for masks in the community." -USA Today

What do you think the masks would protect against, chapped lips?

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:11 PM
...oh, absolutely, El, they're incensed no end that their Biden has eclipsed President Trump's COVID death count. I wouldn't a missed that for the world. The entire 2nd/3rd string (with the exception of Tapper) has been in this week. Monday should be a cascade of angst as the first stringers come out, guns a blazin', a concentratin' on the 1-6 stuff, keepin' COVID on the back burner as much as humanly possible, cept the kids part. That's a money maker and THEY believe a last ditch goose to get the old VACCINATION's a movin' on up.

July 2 weekend:::49.1% fully vaxxed.
6-SIX-6 months later...
January 1 weekend:::62% fully vaxxed.

Let us proceed...

Biden President
Not Trump

Lettuce proceed…

DMC
12-31-2021, 12:11 PM
Cases haven't mattered in so many months, that so much time is wasted even trolling and retrolling about cases is dumb lol

Since January 2021 if I recall correctly.

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:14 PM
Wut? :lol

"offers no benefits against COVID"

Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Robert Redfield advised prioritizing masks for frontline health care workers and stated there was "no role for masks in the community." -USA Today

What do you think the masks would protect against, chapped lips?

This is another dodge. Again, nothing about masks being useless or medical grade there. As a matter of fact, that’s the CDC director stating that masks are indeed useful, and due to the initial shortage we should prioritize them to healthcare workers.

DMC
12-31-2021, 12:14 PM
This post has most of your major tropes: Voice-throwing, semantic parsing, bald assertion, personal psychologizing and fist shaking at the left.

Great work, I'm a big fan!

I busted your whiny hole wide open, wineholio.

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:15 PM
Since January 2021 if I recall correctly.

It’s actually since we had effective vaccines widely available. I think that’s closer to March-June

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:15 PM
Since January 2021 if I recall correctly.

It’s actually since we had effective vaccines widely available. I think that’s closer to March-June

DMC
12-31-2021, 12:18 PM
This is another dodge. Again, nothing about masks being useless or medical grade there. As a matter of fact, that’s the CDC director stating that masks are indeed useful, and due to the initial shortage we should prioritize them to healthcare workers.

So what do healthcare workers wear? Do they order from Amazon or get them at Home Depot? If their masks are effective and your mask isn't, what's the conclusion?

What's the purpose of the masks for healthcare workers? Are the workers sick? If not, then the mask is to prevent them from becoming sick. Oh but the mask for you is to prevent you from transmitting it to someone else. Then somewhere along the way it magically gained the ability to protect you as well. :lol

Odd how that works

Neo.
12-31-2021, 12:18 PM
I busted your whiny hole wide open, wineholio.

how many butter stick burritos did you fill your hole with this morning?

SnakeBoy
12-31-2021, 12:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/OgLp3BB.png

Thread
12-31-2021, 12:23 PM
So what do healthcare workers wear? Do they order from Amazon or get them at Home Depot? If their masks are effective and your mask isn't, what's the conclusion?

What's the purpose of the masks for healthcare workers? Are the workers sick? If not, then the mask is to prevent them from becoming sick. Oh but the mask for you is to prevent you from transmitting it to someone else. Then somewhere along the way it magically gained the ability to protect you as well. :lol

Odd how that works

Nail 'em up, D. Crucify him!!!

hater
12-31-2021, 12:27 PM
This omicron shit is annoying.

Havent tested positive since its near impossible to find availability today. But entire household has symptoms.

So far as bad as a pretty common cold...

Ce la vi

ElNono
12-31-2021, 12:31 PM
So what do healthcare workers wear? Do they order from Amazon or get them at Home Depot? If their masks are effective and your mask isn't, what's the conclusion?

What's the purpose of the masks for healthcare workers? Are the workers sick? If not, then the mask is to prevent them from becoming sick. Oh but the mask for you is to prevent you from transmitting it to someone else. Then somewhere along the way it magically gained the ability to protect you as well. :lol

Odd how that works

The bolded is not what you claimed and I objected to though. Again, this starts off with a false premise. You said the CDC said masks are useless unless medical grade. I asked you to source that, but you can’t because it was never said. Now you want me to connect dots between ‘effective’ and ‘useless’, where the former has a range and the later doesn’t.

As we all know, the mask shortage was very real. HC workers receive their gear from wherever their workplace could source them. At the very start of the pandemic this included NY Yankees ponchos handed out as PE (cue Cuomo did that, fair).

That Redfield post actually directly contradicts your claim. He’s asking people not to hoard masks so HC workers can get them, that’s a tacit admission that masks are indeed useful.

Winehole23
12-31-2021, 12:35 PM
I busted your whiny hole wide open, wineholio.more gay pillow talk, you just can't quit it :lol

DarrinS
12-31-2021, 02:07 PM
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Blake
12-31-2021, 02:25 PM
1476949045629308934

Bullshit. A lot of disinfo comes from other places such as barstool anecdotal muh zip code talk.

DarrinS
12-31-2021, 02:32 PM
Ma niga ocasio living it up in Florida :tu

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1476773086817050626?s=19


I guess that was over the line for Twitter.

Account suspended

hater
12-31-2021, 02:35 PM
1476949045629308934

:lmao gottem

SnakeBoy
12-31-2021, 02:50 PM
Fully vaccinated Betty White has died

RIP

koriwhat
12-31-2021, 03:02 PM
Fully vaccinated Betty White has died

RIP

Well that was unexpected, kind of expected seeing how old she was, but damn! Guess what won't be considered in her death by the MSM or its MSDr's.

baseline bum
12-31-2021, 03:08 PM
Fully vaccinated Betty White has died

RIP

What a shitty vaccine, doesn't even reverse aging.

koriwhat
12-31-2021, 03:28 PM
:lmao gottem

MSNews is nothing but tabloid level trash and those who still buy into it deserve the worst coming to them. It's hilarious to see all these bleeding heart retard regressives prop up the MSM as their false idols and the same goes for personalities and bigPharma to boot. Weren't these same retards very skeptical of all those hacks not even half a decade ago? :lmao

hater
12-31-2021, 03:29 PM
What a shitty vaccine, doesn't even reverse aging.

Betty was strong as an ox

Something fishy happened