Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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& Manuchin threatening that unemployment will hit 20% unless Congress passes these multiple spending bills is nonsense & he is knows it.

It is going to 20+% regardless.

[daslicer]

& Manuchin threatening that unemployment will hit 20% unless Congress passes these multiple spending bills is nonsense & he is knows it.

It is going to 20+% regardless.

I think he’s lying about the 20 percent. It could even be higher than that.

[hater]

& Manuchin threatening that unemployment will hit 20% unless Congress passes these multiple spending bills is nonsense & he is knows it.

It is going to 20+% regardless.

more like 50%

save a miracle like God shooting lasers at the virus

[Splits]

MSM has to find a way to get China offin' the hook. The old man grinding on their ass each day "Chinese Virus" has MSM steamed & flat eared. Frankly, China doesn't give a shit, but, it bugs MSM no end.

& the old man ain't giving it up. He found a path into a sweet spot & will-not-stop.

so stupid

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[Nathan89]

Props to Trump to referring to this the Chinese Virus. The entire media was originally calling it that or Wuhan. Perhaps this shame will encourage China to make changes that do not encourage viruses like this in the future.

[DarrinS]

Read a couple of days ago that's not really that effective on controlled tests.

Thanks. Too good to be true.

[Thread]

so stupid

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My point exactly. He found a niche not to bust China's balls, but, to bust MSM's balls.

[Thread]

Props to Trump to referring to this the Chinese Virus. The entire media was originally calling it that or Wuhan. Perhaps this shame will encourage China to make changes that do not encourage viruses like this in the future.

Yep. Tell it, Nathan. Testify!!!

[RandomGuy]

chloroquine nasty shit

What side effects can this medication cause?


Side effects from chloroquine phosphate can occur. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:



headache
loss of appetite
diarrhea
upset stomach
stomach pain
skin rash or itching
hair loss
mood or mental changes


If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:



seeing light flashes and streaks
blurred vision
reading or seeing difficulties (words disappear, seeing half an object, misty or foggy vision)
difficulty hearing
ringing in ears
muscle weakness
drowsiness
vomiting
irregular heartbeats
convulsions
difficulty breathing



https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a682318.html#side-effects




Beats the side effects of succumbing to the disease...

[DarrinS]

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/what-i-want-you-to-know-about-coronavirus-from-someone-who-recovered-from-covid-19/

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Home testing for Covid19

Wrong link

[RandomGuy]

so stupid

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President Sniffles McAdderall's incoherent sundown-ish rambling was fucking weird. Did you watch it? :wow


n times of national crisis, the country is supposed to rely on the president to provide clear messages to guide them through new problems. But as America continues to deal with the coronavirus outbreak, President Donald Trump is failing.

That was very clear at Thursday’s daily coronavirus press briefing, as Trump went on long, boastful rants, talked about unrelated topics, and joked about kicking journalists out of daily press briefings. At times, it was unclear what Trump was talking about at all.



During normal times, these unclear, random rants are bizarre but possible to overlook — we’ve even gotten a bit accustomed to them with Trump as president. But during a national crisis, it’s dangerous.

Trump has not done that. Besides an uncharacteristically competent press conference on Monday, he has downplayed the risks of Covid-19 — comparing it to the common flu, which isn’t as dangerous as the novel coronavirus, and suggested that “one day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” At one point, he called concerns about the virus a “hoax.”

Public health experts have been highly critical of Trump’s messaging. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, previously called it “deeply disturbing,” adding that it’s “left the country far less prepared than it needs to be for what is a very substantial challenge ahead.”

While Trump has started to take the threat of coronavirus more seriously in his public remarks since Monday, he’s used racist, xenophobic language to describe the virus. That continued on Thursday as well, along with his other disjointed remarks.

Trump could have given the podium over to his administration’s coronavirus task force leaders and experts, who have generally done a much better job over the past few weeks messaging what needs to be done. While Trump typically does this at some point in the press conferences, it’s not until after he’s delivered a ramble of his own — and the experts are often forced to clarify or amend the president’s comments. Indeed, FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn on Thursday had to clarify that upcoming coronavirus treatments are being tested and offered through traditional means, not “right to try.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/19/21186855/coronavirus-trump-press-briefing-national-crisis-messaging

It says volumes when something we used to take for granted, i.e. competent briefings, is "uncharacteristic".

Monday was a stand-out from the normal Trump flavored shitshow... now it is back to Trump flavored shitshow.

Rudderless and clueless.

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Home testing for Covid 19

https://time.com/5805953/home-covid-19-test-everlywell/

[RandomGuy]

[junior high school attempt to troll the libs by kissing Dear Leaders ass]

[collective eyeroll]

[DMC]

[collective eyeroll]

Only some self-absorbed lazy ass twat would think they speak for the collective.

[Splits]

Home testing for Covid 19

https://time.com/5805953/home-covid-19-test-everlywell/

So now there's a global swab shortage. Great.

[RandomGuy]

[vacuous personal attack, ignoring topic at hand]

[indifference]

[RandomGuy]

So now there's a global swab shortage. Great.

There is a joke there somewhere...

[Splits]

There is a joke there somewhere...

I'm sure there is...


Everlywell says it is ready to ship 30,000 COVID-19 tests, and plans to expand the number of labs processing the samples. But CEO and founder Julia Cheek says that scaling up the number of testing kits will depend on the availability of swabs for collecting samples. Three major manufacturers make the swabs, but the main producer, it turns out, is a company based in Italy. Because the country is under lockdown, limited supplies from there, as well as the surge in demand as more COVID-19 testing is conducted around the world, are leading to a global shortage of swabs for any lab performing the test. That’s why Everlywell’s first kits will contain only one swab, and Everlywell will limit kits to one per household until the supply of swabs becomes more plentiful.


“We’re working hard to ramp up weekly capacity to test 250,000 Americans,” says Cheek. “Our goal is to continue to refresh capacity but with the global swab shortage we don’t have a confirmed timeline for that yet. Ultimately, she says, the testing kits could be designed for a household so everyone in a family could be tested if needed to know what protective measure they might need to take.

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So now there's a global swab shortage. Great.

Supply chain mismanagement in action. You’d think they’d have figure this out. Its a stick with some cotton on the end. But they’re also out of pipettes, culture media, etc. What a clusterfuck train wreck.

In China when it was at it’s worse they were relying on chest CTs to make the diagnosis. Will probably come to that. Radiologists, my daughter being one, at very high risk.

[RandomGuy]

I'm sure there is...
We’re working hard to ramp up weekly capacity to test 250,000 Americans,” says Cheek. “Our goal is to continue to refresh capacity but with the global swab shortage we don’t have a confirmed timeline for that yet. Ultimately, she says, the testing kits could be designed for a household so everyone in a family could be tested if needed to know what protective measure they might need to take.


How's that for irony... virus from China disrupts Chinese based supply chains, hampering response to virus in other countries using that supply chain.

Jeeez man, it is a cotton ball on a stick... really cant figure out how to do that somewhere else?

[Trill Clinton]

when shit hits the fan, add a lil socialism to ease the pain

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[hater]

when shit hits the fan, add a lil socialism to ease the pain

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Communists!!!

[RandomGuy]

Vietnam be like:

https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1508697128ra/24245053.gif

[Blake]

Communists!!!

That's only yelled out when things appear to be good on the surface

[LaMarcus Bryant]

It's possible some of you already had this, recovered, and never knew it.

Months and months from now when everyone gets tested for AB's, it's going to be crazy how many of us this is true for.

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Months and months from now when everyone gets tested for AB's, it's going to be crazy how many of us this is true for.

Bad news though. Scientists don’t know yet if infection leads to immunity and if so is it transient. There are people who’ve gone positive, negative, positive.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Bad news though. Scientists don’t know yet if infection leads to immunity and if so is it transient.

Yeah for sure. Lots of fingers crossed.

[Splits]

How's that for irony... virus from China disrupts Chinese based supply chains, hampering response to virus in other countries using that supply chain.

Jeeez man, it is a cotton ball on a stick... really cant figure out how to do that somewhere else?

Actually...


But CEO and founder Julia Cheek says that scaling up the number of testing kits will depend on the availability of swabs for collecting samples. Three major manufacturers make the swabs, but the main producer, it turns out, is a company based in Italy. Because the country is under lockdown, limited supplies from there, as well as the surge in demand as more COVID-19 testing is conducted around the world, are leading to a global shortage of swabs for any lab performing the test.

[Nathan89]

when shit hits the fan, add a lil socialism to ease the pain

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The alternative is the grocery store jacking up the prices to pay their employees more or hire others.

[baseline bum]

Letter sent out from Gamestop to give to cops who try to shut the stores down in cities where only essential services may remain open. What the fuck.

https://i.ibb.co/1fR9gZx/ssp9ceimjon41.jpg

[Splits]

Letter sent out from Gamestop to give to cops who try to shut the stores down in cities where only essential services may remain open. What the fuck.

https://i.ibb.co/1fR9gZx/ssp9ceimjon41.jpg

:lmao

I mean, they have a point

[baseline bum]

I'm done ever buying anything again from fucking Gamestop. Article on kotaku.com about it:

https://kotaku.com/gamestop-we-can-stay-open-during-lockdowns-because-wer-1842415962

[Splits]

They should just give their employees full PPE, take everyone's temperature coming in and nobody would have a problem with it.

[DarrinS]

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Great find, DS!

[baseline bum]

They should just give their employees full PPE, take everyone's temperature coming in and nobody would have a problem with it.

Could you imagine how shitty it would be to be a Gamestop worker right now? They were promised sanitizer and wipes and they still have to do trade-ins. You should see how bad the morale is at reddits gamestop board. And selling games and crap figurines makes them essential?

[baseline bum]

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No one should ever forget where this plague came from. And China knew what these wet markets would do after one of their wet markets caused the SARS epidemic that killed 8000+ people. Now millions will die worldwide because Chinese elites have to eat bats and use all sorts of snake oil medicines from pangolin scales. Fuck you Chinese government.

[Blake]

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And then the media stopped saying Wuhan because it sank in. It's not gonna sink in for Evertrumpers

[baseline bum]

And then the media stopped saying Wuhan because it sank in. It's not gonna sink in for Evertrumpers

The Chinese government did this to us all. They crashed our economy. They'll kill hundreds of thousands to millions of us. Life was good three months ago and now it's going to make the Great Depression look like fucking Disneyland, where we're going to have to choose between 70% unemployment vs millions dead. I have nothing but love for the Chinese people but fuck their government.

[Reck]

I'm done ever buying anything again from fucking Gamestop. Article on kotaku.com about it:

https://kotaku.com/gamestop-we-can-stay-open-during-lockdowns-because-wer-1842415962

I haven't been to one of these faggot's store since I was in high school circa 2005. I either go to Best Buy or go more usually would go to chinatown where there are some local japanese game stores where they get games 3-4 days early for some games.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

They should just give their employees full PPE, take everyone's temperature coming in and nobody would have a problem with it.

Gamestop is just as effective as common outpatient urgent cares at this moment and that's pretty much all those people are doing for people that walk in :lol

But for real that's fucked up lol.

[slick'81]

Were all sooo doa

[Spurminator]

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I don't really have a problem calling it the Chinese Virus, but I do have a problem with the way the President of the United States, in the midst of an economic crisis and global pandemic, calculatingly shifted the conversation to a culture war by purposefully inserting the verbiage into nearly all of his statements, followed by he and his media sycophants amplifying the understandable reaction to it as "lol libs triggered."

We should be covering safety precautions and actual news, but conservative elites know the public can be easily distracted by racial semantics.

People will die because of this. But the President still thinks he's the star and head writer of a reality show.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The Chinese government did this to us all. They crashed our economy. They'll kill hundreds of thousands to millions of us. Life was good three months ago and now it's going to make the Great Depression look like fucking Disneyland, where we're going to have to choose between 70% unemployment vs millions dead. I have nothing but love for the Chinese people but fuck their government.

For real. Also what governments didn't follow their lead and continue denying/lying/ass sitting? There's south korea and singapore, and then there's everyone else who's seemingly been failing their citizens. Shameful.

[koriwhat]

MSM has to find a way to get China offin' the hook. The old man grinding on their ass each day "Chinese Virus" has MSM steamed & flat eared. Frankly, China doesn't give a shit, but, it bugs MSM no end.

& the old man ain't giving it up. He found a path into a sweet spot & will-not-stop.


Props to Trump to referring to this the Chinese Virus. The entire media was originally calling it that or Wuhan. Perhaps this shame will encourage China to make changes that do not encourage viruses like this in the future.

both great points :tu

[koriwhat]

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No one should ever forget where this plague came from. And China knew what these wet markets would do after one of their wet markets caused the SARS epidemic that killed 8000+ people. Now millions will die worldwide because Chinese elites have to eat bats and use all sorts of snake oil medicines from pangolin scales. Fuck you Chinese government.

:tu

[koriwhat]

And then the media stopped saying Wuhan because it sank in. It's not gonna sink in for Evertrumpers

and this is exactly why you're used as a rug to step all over. like i said earlier, you're the very definition of a pussy.

[hater]

very bad news

went around town and kids ages 13-25 dont give a fuck :lmao

they are strolling, playing ball, soccer, stroking each other likes its fucking spring break :lmao

we are soooooo fucked

[koriwhat]

the public can be easily distracted by racial semantics.

the only ones distracted by racial semantics are you fucking libs. seriously though it's the fucking china flu, chinese flu, wufu, wuhan flu, and no matter how you want to shift the narrative in favor of your favorite commie nation it will always be known as the shitstain that fucked all of the world in 2020.

fuck apologists like you!

[hater]

I would never ask for martial law but damn

I guess lets give it a week but this quarantine wont fucking work if kids are fucking each other on the streets


As I already called a few days ago. martial law is coming. hopefully it wont b too late

[DarrinS]

For real. Also what governments didn't follow their lead and continue denying/lying/ass sitting? There's south korea and singapore, and then there's everyone else who's seemingly been failing their citizens. Shameful.

Japan doing a good job, too.

[Blake]

The Chinese government did this to us all. They crashed our economy. They'll kill hundreds of thousands to millions of us. Life was good three months ago and now it's going to make the Great Depression look like fucking Disneyland, where we're going to have to choose between 70% unemployment vs millions dead. I have nothing but love for the Chinese people but fuck their government.

Right now it doesn't really matter who is to blame for starting it. We can do that later. Trump should do that later. But he won't.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

very bad news

went around town and kids ages 13-25 dont give a fuck :lmao

they are strolling, playing ball, soccer, stroking each other likes its fucking spring break :lmao

we are soooooo fucked

Drove by the local park and saw the same :(

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Japan doing a good job, too.

My bad, knew I was forgetting one.

[Blake]

and this is exactly why you're used as a rug to step all over. like i said earlier, you're the very definition of a pussy.

Settle down

[koriwhat]

Settle down

the "chill", "settle down", etc is complete horseshit. why don't you refute anything instead of your cliche bullshit sayings and girly emoticons blaKKKe?

oh yeah, it's because you're a pussy. got it! :tu

[Fat Brandon Bass]

and this is exactly why you're used as a rug to step all over. like i said earlier, you're the very definition of a pussy.

yeah I don't get it either. Even if this is unintentional, repetitive carelessness on China's part is going to completely wreck the US economy....but please, let's make sure we're not meanie heads in return to them. wtf?

[baseline bum]

I haven't been to one of these faggot's store since I was in high school circa 2005. I either go to Best Buy or go more usually would go to chinatown where there are some local japanese game stores where they get games 3-4 days early for some games.

I had my Persona 5 Royal preorder that I put in months ago with them. Finally cancelled it last week when it was 100% clear the US was about to get completely fucked and that walking into a Gamestop on 3/31 would be madness. Just hope I can actually beat the game without going into the hospital (bought it on PSN). :lol

[picnroll]

Right now it doesn't really matter who is to blame for starting it. We can do that later. Trump should do that later. But he won't.

Relatively to Europe and Asia, US has the most undisciplined, self centered youth on the planet. Millennial and Zs. We’re fucked.

[vy65]

The Chinese government did this to us all. They crashed our economy. They'll kill hundreds of thousands to millions of us. Life was good three months ago and now it's going to make the Great Depression look like fucking Disneyland, where we're going to have to choose between 70% unemployment vs millions dead. I have nothing but love for the Chinese people but fuck their government.

70% is extreme. The worst years of the great depression never reached 25%. The great recession's unemployment rate was 10%.

[baseline bum]

Relatively to Europe and Asia, US has the most undisciplined, self centered youth on the planet. Millennial and Zs. We’re fucked.

I don't know, Europeans and South Americans I went to school with didn't seem much different.

[picnroll]

I don't know, Europeans and South Americans I went to school with didn't seem much different.
Were they in the US following the custom.

[daslicer]

very bad news

went around town and kids ages 13-25 dont give a fuck :lmao

they are strolling, playing ball, soccer, stroking each other likes its fucking spring break :lmao

we are soooooo fucked

I know a bunch of guys in there 20's and 30's I play basketball with after work in the evening. I stopped playing once this became serious but they are still playing. I know this because I'm in their group chat and they always let me know when they are heading out to the park to play.

[baseline bum]

70% is extreme. The worst years of the great depression never reached 25%. The great recession's unemployment rate was 10%.

Did the Great Depression ever have an entire country ordering all non-essential business closed? Because we're days from that. I was listening to Robert Reich earlier and he said to expect greater than 40% unemployment within 2-3 weeks.

[hater]

Relatively to Europe and Asia, US has the most undisciplined, self centered youth on the planet. Millennial and Zs. We’re fucked.

yes

entitled little shits. but to be faur if I was 21 again, not sure what id do tbqh

tough times

[vy65]

Did the Great Depression ever have an entire country ordering all non-essential business closed? Because we're days from that. I was listening to Robert Reich earlier and he said to expect greater than 40% unemployment within 2-3 weeks.

They won't be permanently closed. A month or two will create a severe shock to the system. For sure. But it's not a permanent closure.

[baseline bum]

They won't be permanently closed. A month or two will create a severe shock to the system. For sure. But it's not a permanent closure.

This is very unlikely to be over in two months if this virus isn't severely hampered by rising temperatures. Mnuchin wouldn't be proposing a second UBI check in two months if there was much reason to hope we'd be coming out of this by then. Like Michael Osterholm said, this isn't a blizzard, it's a winter.

[koriwhat]

yeah I don't get it either. Even if this is unintentional, repetitive carelessness on China's part is going to completely wreck the US economy....but please, let's make sure we're not meanie heads in return to them. wtf?

the feel good make believe utopian retarded progressive idiots are all weak bleeding heart losers unfortunately. it's sad when our males in this society are more pussified than our females.

[vy65]

This is very unlikely to be over in two months if this virus isn't severely hampered by rising temperatures. Mnuchin wouldn't be proposing a second UBI check in two months if there was much reason to hope we'd be coming out of this by then. Like Michael Osterholm said, this isn't a blizzard, it's a winter.

Summer + at least one trial (remdesivir) will be done. That's two more months of developing/evaluating treatments. That's two months of people getting sick and recovering. Remember, these measures are being taken because of the threat to the elderly, those with health complications, and the health system. Once infrastructure bandwith is opened up, you slowly return to normal.

Getting a check in two months is a float to those who haven't been working. It's not a signal that no progress will be made by then.

It's serious. I think a recession is guaranteed. It will take months, if not a year or two to re-emerge once we turn the corner. But 70% unemployment is crazy.

[SnakeBoy]

Did the Great Depression ever have an entire country ordering all non-essential business closed? Because we're days from that. I was listening to Robert Reich earlier and he said to expect greater than 40% unemployment within 2-3 weeks.

Well older generations dealt with pandemics by just going about their business. If they died they died.

I don't pay much attention to those making historical comparisons. This is unprecedented in human history and how it plays out is a complete unknown. The world revolves on fiat money so who knows the globe could just decide to do a reset when this has passed.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/lilbbycumquat/status/1239963578934779905?s=21

[Blake]

the "chill", "settle down", etc is complete horseshit. why don't you refute anything instead of your cliche bullshit sayings and girly emoticons blaKKKe?

oh yeah, it's because you're a pussy. got it! :tu

Settle down already

[baseline bum]

Summer + at least one trial (remdesivir) will be done. That's two more months of developing/evaluating treatments. That's two months of people getting sick and recovering. Remember, these measures are being taken because of the threat to the elderly, those with health complications, and the health system. Once infrastructure bandwith is opened up, you slowly return to normal.

Getting a check in two months is a float to those who haven't been working. It's not a signal that no progress will be made by then.

It's serious. I think a recession is guaranteed. It will take months, if not a year or two to re-emerge once we turn the corner. But 70% unemployment is crazy.

It sounds like you're banking on best case scenarios though. What percentage of the workforce can work from home? 10%? 20%? We don't appear to have nearly enough hospital beds or ventilators to open the country back up in two months unless we just have catostrophic number of deaths these two months with the virus burning through say half the population. And I really fear for small business in this country.

[Blake]

yes

entitled little shits. but to be faur if I was 21 again, not sure what id do tbqh

tough times

Honestly, I was thinking the same. More honestly I'd probably be at the beach.

[Blake]

the feel good make believe utopian retarded progressive idiots are all weak bleeding heart losers unfortunately. it's sad when our males in this society are more pussified than our females.

So you're gonna refuse to cash your socialist government handout? Simple yes or no, thanks.

But first settle down

[boutons_deux]

This is very unlikely to be over in two months if this virus isn't severely hampered by rising temperatures. Mnuchin wouldn't be proposing a second UBI check in two months if there was much reason to hope we'd be coming out of this by then. Like Michael Osterholm said, this isn't a blizzard, it's a winter.

H1N1 swine flu blasted right through the summer of 2009, spring to November

[vy65]

It sounds like you're banking on best case scenarios though. What percentage of the workforce can work from home? 10%? 20%? We don't appear to have nearly enough hospital beds or ventilators to open the country back up in two months unless we just have catostrophic number of deaths these two months with the virus burning through say half the population. And I really fear for small business in this country.

One poll says 43%

https://news.gallup.com/businessjournal/206033/america-coming-workplace-home-alone.aspx?utm_source=link_wwwv9&utm_campaign=item _236222&utm_medium=copy

The infrastructure bit is an issue. I think we should have gone full Italy-style lock down last week. I think we will in another week or so. But the reason for that is to give us breathing room. I don't see why we wouldn't get that in 3-4 weeks.

The shock to small business is huge. I can't overstate that enough. So we're in agreement here. But the shock isn't economically based - which is why, like SB said, this is so novel. I'm not normally an optimist at all, but let's say tomorrow I came out with a cure. Don't we go back to business as usual? The problem in the hypothetical is that there is no cure as of yet, but the point is that the stressors are not part of the system itself. And with all the treatments being considered/rushed through, you'd have to think that there's going to be some light at the end of the tunnel.

[boutons_deux]

Trash/CDC refusal to accept WHO test kits used by 60 other countries was their fatal mistake

WTF were they thinking? Imperial hubris? USA don't accept no steenkin help from the hated, derided UN/WHO?

Without testing, we have no idea where are nor where we are going.

[DarrinS]

H1N1 swine flu blasted right through the summer of 2009, spring to November

It slowed considerably in the summer.

[vy65]

H1N1 swine flu blasted right through the summer of 2009, spring to November

There are four endemic coronaviruses [a family of viruses that cause respiratory illnesses] that circulate within humans. Studies and data I have seen show three or even all four of them circulating seasonally, peaking during the wintertime and pretty much disappearing during the summer months. And it's an even more marked seasonality than we see for flu, which also in temperate regions is like that.

Now, there's reasonable evidence with the flu that it's not actually linked to temperature, but rather linked to humidity levels and that these viruses thrive in conditions that are very dry, which is what we get in the wintertime. Why that is for flu, we don't know, and if that is the mechanism that extends to coronavirus, we don't know either. Either way it leads to the enticing possibility that maybe this novel coronavirus will also be affected by ambient conditions which lead to it dissipating during summertime.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-will-it-go-away-in-summer-expert-weighs-in/

[baseline bum]

One poll says 43%

https://news.gallup.com/businessjournal/206033/america-coming-workplace-home-alone.aspx?utm_source=link_wwwv9&utm_campaign=item_236222&utm_medium=copy

The infrastructure bit is an issue. I think we should have gone full Italy-style lock down last week. I think we will in another week or so. But the reason for that is to give us breathing room. I don't see why we wouldn't get that in 3-4 weeks.

The shock to small business is huge. I can't overstate that enough. So we're in agreement here. But the shock isn't economically based - which is why, like SB said, this is so novel. I'm not normally an optimist at all, but let's say tomorrow I came out with a cure. Don't we go back to business as usual? The problem in the hypothetical is that there is no cure as of yet, but the point is that the stressors are not part of the system itself. And with all the treatments being considered/rushed through, you'd have to think that there's going to be some light at the end of the tunnel.

I don't think 3-4 weeks gets us breathing room and opening everything up after that just probably gets us back to where we are now considering how effectively this spreads. If a cure was found today how quickly are you going to make 40 million doses, assuming 40% of the world's population gets the virus and saying say 3 billion of the 8 billion people on Earth are from shithole countries where no one is going to care about saving them so they get to bootstrap. Let's say 2% of infections lead to going to the hospital instead of the currently accepted 20% based on the idea there is 10x the number of infections out there as have been found.

.4 * 5 billion people * 0.02 = 40 million

It just seems really optimistic to me to think we can start approaching normal in two months.

[baseline bum]

Unless it's seasonal. If it's seasonal (god I hope) that gets us breathing room and maybe we are back to somewhat normal in 6 weeks.

[picnroll]

Trash/CDC refusal to accept WHO test kits used by 60 other countries was their fatal mistake

WTF were they thinking? Imperial hubris? USA don't accept no steenkin help from the hated, derided UN/WHO?

Without testing, we have no idea where are nor where we are going.
I think we were pretty much screwed one way or the other, with or without kits. Unlike China where there was one epicenter and perfection of a mass population control mechanism US is dotted with epicenters. Social distancing came late and is very poorly observed. Message was for the general population not to use face masks but that was because we didn’t have them unlike Korea, China and Japan where they almost wear those suckers to bed. Initial spread came from returnees and tourists coming from China and Europe dotting the country. Testing only would have gotten the symptomatic patients, some weren’t symptomatic and some spread the disease before they were symptomatic. In my opinion this is just a perfect storm virus For an unprepared, inexperienced country

[boutons_deux]

With Burr as an example, I'd really like to know how many Congresspeople dumped their stock in Jan and Feb

was that the reason Trash lied for wees until the dam burst, to give Congress people with insider knowledge to take the profits?

[Thread]

With Burr as an example, I'd really like to know how many Congresspeople dumped their stock in Jan and Feb

bouts

[vy65]

I don't think 3-4 weeks gets us breathing room and opening everything up after that just probably gets us back to where we are now considering how effectively this spreads. If a cure was found today how quickly are you going to make 40 million doses, assuming 40% of the world's population gets the virus and saying say 3 billion of the 8 billion people on Earth are from shithole countries where no one is going to care about saving them so they get to bootstrap. Let's say 2% of infections lead to going to the hospital instead of the currently accepted 20% based on the idea there is 10x the number of infections out there as have been found.

.4 * 5 billion people * 0.02 = 40 million

It just seems really optimistic to me to think we can start approaching normal in two months.

You wouldn't need 40 million doses right away. You'd prioritize those in the ICU. That's likely going to be in the 10s of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands. Tall order for sure, but we're far off from 40 million vaccines right away.

327,200,000 US citizens. Let's say 70% catch it, so 230,000,000. Putting aside that this is a projection over 18 months (I think), the amount of those who need critical care is 5%.


The majority of people with Covid-19 can be managed at home. But among 44,000 cases in China, about 15% required hospitalization and 5% ended up in critical care. In Italy, the statistics so far are even more dismal: More than half of infected individuals require hospitalization and about 10% need treatment in the ICU.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/10/simple-math-alarming-answers-covid-19/

That's 11.5 million vaccines needed over 18 months.

[vy65]

Unless it's seasonal. If it's seasonal (god I hope) that gets us breathing room and maybe we are back to somewhat normal in 6 weeks.

Same. I think our best hope is a combination of this + an anti-viral treatment that will float us until we get a vaccine. A few months of breathing room would be huge in ramping up infrastructure to deal with this.

[boutons_deux]

I think we were pretty much screwed one way or the other, with or without kits.

SK and USA detected their first case on the same day.

SK attacked the problem, Trash lied.

Impeach Trash

[TheGreatYacht]

The Endgame of the Covid-19 Lockdown

https://youtu.be/F3avn2K8yng

[RandomGuy]

I don't think 3-4 weeks gets us breathing room and opening everything up after that just probably gets us back to where we are now considering how effectively this spreads. If a cure was found today how quickly are you going to make 40 million doses, assuming 40% of the world's population gets the virus and saying say 3 billion of the 8 billion people on Earth are from shithole countries where no one is going to care about saving them so they get to bootstrap. Let's say 2% of infections lead to going to the hospital instead of the currently accepted 20% based on the idea there is 10x the number of infections out there as have been found.

.4 * 5 billion people * 0.02 = 40 million

It just seems really optimistic to me to think we can start approaching normal in two months.

Well, it will infect a LOT of people after the first spike of in the US of 90M or so. Flu usually gets around 60% of the population if memory serves.

Saw a good simulator on wapo that showed the dynamics of how it spreads. You can't get it if you already had it, so once that spike happens the rate of transmission will drop markedly, allowing the health system some breathing space.

[vy65]

Well, it will infect a LOT of people after the first spike of in the US of 90M or so. Flu usually gets around 60% of the population if memory serves.

Saw a good simulator on wapo that showed the dynamics of how it spreads. You can't get it if you already had it, so once that spike happens the rate of transmission will drop markedly, allowing the health system some breathing space.

I thought that there was no determination on full vs. partial immunity. But the severity will be less even if it's only partial.

[RandomGuy]

I thought that there was no determination on full vs. partial immunity. But the severity will be less even if it's only partial.

yup. less severe probably means less time where you have a communicable case.

A lot we don't know yet. Will it slow down in the summer? How immune are you if you have already had it? How long does it live on surfaces?

Probably similar to other viruses in all these instances, but probably is not the same as doing the science to say for certain.

[hater]

yes let's open people's eyes by showing them fortune teller's cards :lmao

[RandomGuy]

[another youtube video that one one will watch]

Dude you're getting dunked on by hater.

hater.

Lay off the wacky tobakky.

[picnroll]

Doctors and patients wonder if the NBA is getting special treatment with coronavirus tests

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/doctors-wonder-if-nba-getting-special-treatment-with-coronavirus-tests.html

[boutons_deux]

The Outbreak in New York and the Thunder Under the Waves

New York State has done 22,284 test and found 4,152 (19%) cases.

Washington State has done 17,105 tests and confirmed 1,187 cases (7%).

California has done 9,711 tests and confirmed 924 (10%) cases.

There are 12 deaths in New York, 66 in Washington State and 18 in California.

To put it in the most merciless terms, COVID-19 takes a while to kill many of its victims.

Florida has received results for 1,923 tests and confirmed 390 (20%) cases. 1,109 more are pending.

78% of New Jersey’s tests have come back positive for a total of 742 cases.

One mildly positive development is that testing at scale really does now seem to be underway.

https://cdn.talkingpointsmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-19-at-4.54.12-PM-804x575.png

. Florida has received results for 1,923 tests and confirmed 390 (20%) cases. 1,109 more are pending.

Texas has run 2,355 tests and confirmed 143 (6%) cases.

These are the 2nd and 4th largest states in the country.

They’ve done much less testing that the 1st and 3rd largest.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-outbreak-in-new-york-and-the-thunder-under-the-waves?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Mark Celibate]

yes

entitled little shits. but to be faur if I was 21 again, not sure what id do tbqh

tough times


I mean we're about to be locked inside for who the f*ck knows how long right as the weather starts to warm up outside so I can't really blame for trying to enjoy it while they can.

[vy65]

The Outbreak in New York and the Thunder Under the Waves

New York State has done 22,284 test and found 4,152 (19%) cases.

Washington State has done 17,105 tests and confirmed 1,187 cases (7%).

California has done 9,711 tests and confirmed 924 (10%) cases.

There are 12 deaths in New York, 66 in Washington State and 18 in California.

To put it in the most merciless terms, COVID-19 takes a while to kill many of its victims.

Florida has received results for 1,923 tests and confirmed 390 (20%) cases. 1,109 more are pending.

78% of New Jersey’s tests have come back positive for a total of 742 cases.

One mildly positive development is that testing at scale really does now seem to be underway.

https://cdn.talkingpointsmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-19-at-4.54.12-PM-804x575.png

. Florida has received results for 1,923 tests and confirmed 390 (20%) cases. 1,109 more are pending.

Texas has run 2,355 tests and confirmed 143 (6%) cases.

These are the 2nd and 4th largest states in the country.

They’ve done much less testing that the 1st and 3rd largest.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-outbreak-in-new-york-and-the-thunder-under-the-waves?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29




Those numbers are all over the place - between 6 and 78 percent is not very telling. You'd imagine they'll skew higher since the people being tested now are more likely to have it, and those numbers will slide down as testing at scale is further implemented.

[RandomGuy]

Say X(t) = number of deaths at time t. Those are graphs of log X(t) which are nearly linear, eg log X(t) = at + b for some numbers a,b, so that X(t) = e^(at + b) = e^b e^(at). The US's "a" coefficient is larger than Italy's in that graph from deaths up until 3/12 in those those two graphs since a gives the slope of the graphs and the US's is steeper. Hopefully we're actually socially distancing and bringing that a coefficient way down.

Got a bit more data now. what is the trend line looking like?

[boutons_deux]

Those numbers are all over the place - between 6 and 78 percent is not very telling. You'd imagine they'll skew higher since the people being tested now are more likely to have it, and those numbers will slide down as testing at scale is further implemented.

the article said it was a very rough impression, and tests were against sick people (with various illnesses) so high positives.

a key point is that testing is finally, week late, being done but 100K tests so far is ridiculously low in 340M people. SK was doing 10K per day

[RandomGuy]

Those numbers are all over the place - between 6 and 78 percent is not very telling. You'd imagine they'll skew higher since the people being tested now are more likely to have it, and those numbers will slide down as testing at scale is further implemented.

We will start catching more.

The fucked up thing is that if all the shelter in place works... the idiots will say there wasn't anything to worry about. :^/

[baseline bum]

Got a bit more data now. what is the trend line looking like?

Looks like it has gotten worse. The slope of the log of deaths seems to be increasing.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Of course the deaths are a function of the policy of 2-3 weeks back and not what we're doing now.

[koriwhat]

So you're gonna refuse to cash your socialist government handout? Simple yes or no, thanks.

But first settle down

Lol socialist check

[vy65]

Looks like it has gotten worse. The slope of the log of deaths seems to be increasing.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Of course the deaths are a function of the policy of 2-3 weeks back and not what we're doing now.

What about Italy and Spain?

[RandomGuy]

I mean we're about to be locked inside for who the f*ck knows how long right as the weather starts to warm up outside so I can't really blame for trying to enjoy it while they can.


https://youtu.be/oRdxUFDoQe0

Porn hub goes down... we riot...



separated by 6 feet of course.

[Nathan89]

China probably already experimented workable treatments in their concentration camps tbh

[baseline bum]

What about Italy and Spain?

EDIT: Honestly, too few data points to make a meaningful extrapolation IMO

[boutons_deux]

Vacancies at the top of the Homeland Security Department threaten coronavirus response (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/18/1928619/-Vacancies-at-the-top-of-the-Homeland-Security-Department-threaten-coronavirus-response)

DHS is currently led by its second acting secretary in a row, and its third head within a year.

“You are asking the folks on the front lines to implement a policy that

they have not yet been fully informed on or trained on, so of course you are going to have confusion,”

“You have these issues because, again, it seems like it was

implemented too quickly to allow the workforce to be able to properly implement it.”

“65 percent of top jobs in the department are vacant or filled by acting appointees, more than in any other federal agency

That lack of leadership trickles down, with other jobs going unfilled and with inadequate management.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency is also part of DHS, by the way, and its number two job is unfilled.

And that is while we’re talking about ways DHS might be involved in coronavirus response.

More than one in four of the top jobs at Health and Human Services and

one in three at the Defense Department are unfilled.

This is not an administration remotely ready for a public health crisis,

even if the guy at the top hadn’t spent nearly two months seemingly determined to make it worse.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1928619 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1928619)

[boutons_deux]

Second GOP senator caught dumping stocking — after receiving coronavirus briefing

Two Republican senators have

admitted in public filings to having sold stock just before the crash of the stock market.

The first was Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). Hours later, The Daily Beast reported interim Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA).

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/busted-second-gop-senator-caught-dumping-stocking-after-receiving-coronavirus-briefing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/busted-second-gop-senator-caught-dumping-stocking-after-receiving-coronavirus-briefing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Any more?

[vy65]

EDIT: Honestly, too few data points to make a meaningful extrapolation IMO

Italy went into lockdown on the 13th, so 6 days ago

[Blake]

Lol socialist check

Yup. See this is why nobody can discuss anything with you. You're an idiot and you're angry all the time.

[RandomGuy]

China probably already experimented workable treatments in their concentration camps tbh

I wouldn't put it past them. (shudders)

[Nathan89]

What's the end game for a full shutdown? Grind the virus to a halt only for it to bloom up later? So periodic full shutdown until a vaccine? No.

This is actually one of the strategies being discussed by MIT now.

[RandomGuy]

Vacancies at the top of the Homeland Security Department threaten coronavirus response (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/18/1928619/-Vacancies-at-the-top-of-the-Homeland-Security-Department-threaten-coronavirus-response)

DHS is currently led by its second acting secretary in a row, and its third head within a year.

“You are asking the folks on the front lines to implement a policy that

they have not yet been fully informed on or trained on, so of course you are going to have confusion,”

“You have these issues because, again, it seems like it was

implemented too quickly to allow the workforce to be able to properly implement it.”

“65 percent of top jobs in the department are vacant or filled by acting appointees, more than in any other federal agency

That lack of leadership trickles down, with other jobs going unfilled and with inadequate management.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency is also part of DHS, by the way, and its number two job is unfilled.

And that is while we’re talking about ways DHS might be involved in coronavirus response.

More than one in four of the top jobs at Health and Human Services and

one in three at the Defense Department are unfilled.

This is not an administration remotely ready for a public health crisis,

even if the guy at the top hadn’t spent nearly two months seemingly determined to make it worse.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1928619 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1928619)





Eyup.

Firing the pandemic team at the white house is the tip of the shitberg.

[Blake]

o_cImRzKXOs

Should be required watching for all spring breakers and mall shoppers right now

[baseline bum]

Italy went into lockdown on the 13th, so 6 days ago

The graph looks a little convex now so maybe a bit of slowdown vs the exponential growth had it stayed constant. But you're probably looking at a longer time delay before we'll really see how well the lockdown has worked. I don't think many people who died today were infected in the last six days when the lockdown took place based on the long incubation period reported.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy

[Mark Celibate]

And then the media stopped saying Wuhan because it sank in. It's not gonna sink in for Evertrumpers

Spanish Flu, German Measles, West Nile Virus, Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever (Named after a river in Zaire), Marburg Virus (Named after a town in Germany), Lassa Fever (Named after a town in Nigeria), Lyme Disease (Named after a town in Connecticut, US).
Why are the Chinese so sensitive about where it came from...?

[ChumpDumper]

Spanish FluSW Kansas

[baseline bum]

o_cImRzKXOs

Should be required watching for all spring breakers and mall shoppers right now

Sad they said 1000 deaths and four days after the video was published the death toll is 3400 there.

[RandomGuy]

Looks like it has gotten worse. The slope of the log of deaths seems to be increasing.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Of course the deaths are a function of the policy of 2-3 weeks back and not what we're doing now.

Eyup.

I shudder to think what this is going to do to the UK with Boris Whifflefarts Johnson literally doing nothing.

[Mark Celibate]

SW Kansas

Not that it changes the point, but many assumed it came from the Iberian Peninsula although it was later debunked

[RandomGuy]

What about Italy and Spain?

Germany is the interesting outlier so far. Only 20 fatalities. per NYT

[Reck]

1240780358951395328

Out of all the sports, the NBA seem to have gotten it the worst.

[Blake]

Spanish Flu, German Measles, West Nile Virus, Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever (Named after a river in Zaire), Marburg Virus (Named after a town in Germany), Lassa Fever (Named after a town in Nigeria), Lyme Disease (Named after a town in Connecticut, US).
Why are the Chinese so sensitive about where it came from...?

I don't know. I don't really care.

I mean, serious question, what is the end game after this is all over to make sure the name Wuhan sticks? To shame them? Is Lyme, Connecticut still reeling?

[Pelicans78]

chloroquine nasty shit

What side effects can this medication cause?


Side effects from chloroquine phosphate can occur. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:



headache
loss of appetite
diarrhea
upset stomach
stomach pain
skin rash or itching
hair loss
mood or mental changes


If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:



seeing light flashes and streaks
blurred vision
reading or seeing difficulties (words disappear, seeing half an object, misty or foggy vision)
difficulty hearing
ringing in ears
muscle weakness
drowsiness
vomiting
irregular heartbeats
convulsions
difficulty breathing



https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a682318.html#side-effects




LOL every pharmaceutical medicine has similar long lists. Go kill yourself.

[DarrinS]

o_cImRzKXOs

Should be required watching for all spring breakers and mall shoppers right now


This will not be our experience. Italy is a country with 60M people the size of Michigan. They have the oldest demographic in Europe and they were poorly prepared. They got hit hard before any social distancing went into practice.

[Blake]

1240780358951395328

Out of all the sports, the NBA seem to have gotten it the worst.

Saints coach Sean Payton kicking off the nfl

[Blake]

This will not be our experience. Italy is a country with 60M people the size of Michigan. They have the oldest demographic in Europe and they were poorly prepared. They got hit hard before any social distancing went into practice.

They have a lot more hospital beds per person than the US

And North Star Mall is still operating.

[DarrinS]

People are going to freak on positive cases that will start being reported, but they shouldn't. It is expected, as testing starts to ramp up.

[DarrinS]

They have a lot more hospital beds per person than the US

And North Star Mall is still operating.


They got swamped by mostly elderly with pre-existing issues.

[Blake]

They got swamped by mostly elderly with pre-existing issues.

Well you're free to rule it out. Looking around I still don't think we're taking it as serious as we should. Nowhere close.

[Mark Celibate]

I don't know. I don't really care.

I mean, serious question, what is the end game after this is all over to make sure the name Wuhan sticks? To shame them? Is Lyme, Connecticut still reeling?

I don’t know and I don’t care either lol

[DarrinS]

Well you're free to rule it out. Looking around I still don't think we're taking it as serious as we should. Nowhere close.


We've practically killed our economy and shut everything down. Seems like we're taking it seriously.

Only much later will we figure out if the costs were worth it.

[Blake]

I don’t know and I don’t care either lol

Lol.

Too bad we'll never know if tech was gonna be in the dance :depressed

[baseline bum]

1240780358951395328

Out of all the sports, the NBA seem to have gotten it the worst.

Three Sixers too according to yahoo.

[slick'81]

Relatively to Europe and Asia, US has the most undisciplined, self centered youth on the planet. Millennial and Zs. We’re fucked.


Younger people might not be terminally ill from it, but theyre contributing to its spread.not to mention the subsequent financial meldown coming....making people like me out of work...so you can drink beer on the beach? I will fucking crush the larynx of any college fucktard that thinks thats ok.ill smile while i watch their useless fucking existence vanish

[Blake]

We've practically killed our economy and shut everything down. Seems like we're taking it seriously.

Only much later will we figure out if the costs were worth it.

Lol uh no, we haven't shut everything down. We're only politely asking places to shut down for now. In two weeks, it shouldn't surprise you if we're needing permission slips to be driving on the roads.

[Blake]

Younger people might not be terminally ill from it, but theyre contributing to its spread.not to mention the subsequent financial meldown coming....making people like me out of work...so you can drink beer on the beach? I will fucking crush the larynx of any college fucktard that thinks thats ok.ill smile while i watch their useless fucking existence vanish

:lol

[hater]

1240780358951395328

Out of all the sports, the NBA seem to have gotten it the worst.

them white bitches get around

[vy65]

Germany is the interesting outlier so far. Only 20 fatalities. per NYT


"We don't consider post-mortem tests to be a decisive factor. We work on the principle that patients are tested before they die," the RKI told AFP.

Funny and sad ...

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/03/20/dissecting-germanys-low-coronavirus-death-rate.html

[vy65]

People are going to freak on positive cases that will start being reported, but they shouldn't. It is expected, as testing starts to ramp up.

This. It's a good sign. Those people who've been around positive cases can start taking steps to reduce exposure.

[vy65]

They have a lot more hospital beds per person than the US

And North Star Mall is still operating.


They got swamped by mostly elderly with pre-existing issues.


More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.

After deaths from the virus reached more than 2,500, with a 150% increase in the past week, health authorities have been combing through data to provide clues to help combat the spread of the disease.

Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte’s government is evaluating whether to extend a nationwide lockdown beyond the beginning of April, daily La Stampa reported Wednesday. Italy has more than 31,500 confirmed cases of the illness.

The new study could provide insight into why Italy’s death rate, at about 8% of total infected people, is higher than in other countries.

The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.

The median age of the infected is 63 but most of those who die are older. The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

While data released Tuesday point to a slowdown in the increase of cases, with a 12.6% rise, a separate study shows Italy could be underestimating the real number of cases by testing only patients presenting symptoms.

According to the GIMBE Foundation, about 100,000 Italians have contracted the virus, daily Il Sole 24 Ore reported. That would bring back the country’s death rate closer to the global average of about 2%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says?fbclid=IwAR14zh9HjsKkFyz_-rzOUKq6ULIbSS9uvTYKtwc-BnKRx8FG0hCNe4z1xBc

Follow the link. The graph shows that nearly 75% of deaths were of people who had 2 or more pre-existing health conditions.

[DarrinS]

This. It's a good sign. Those people who've been around positive cases can start taking steps to reduce exposure.

I would not be surprised if there are 30-40k cases by Monday. But, it's much better to be diagnosed and take steps.

[Blake]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says?fbclid=IwAR14zh9HjsKkFyz_-rzOUKq6ULIbSS9uvTYKtwc-BnKRx8FG0hCNe4z1xBc

Follow the link. The graph shows that nearly 75% of deaths were of people who had 2 or more pre-existing health conditions.

So people with high blood pressure, diabetes or heart diseases are at the greatest risk of death.

Good thing we don't have any those things here

[DarrinS]

So people with high blood pressure, diabetes or heart diseases are at the greatest risk of death.

Good thing we don't have any those things here


I think the high blood pressure is the biggest one.

[vy65]

I would not be surprised if there are 30-40k cases by Monday. But, it's much better to be diagnosed and take steps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fl4isk/an_italian_town_tested_all_3300_residents_found_3/

[Ellsworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5H308HeuWc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

[DarrinS]

I think the high blood pressure is the biggest one.

Sucks, because hypertension is genetic for many people. My wife has it, and she's a petite woman.

[vy65]

So people with high blood pressure, diabetes or heart diseases are at the greatest risk of death.

Good thing we don't have any those things here

Shit's gonna get real in trumpland.

Srsly, you're right. But I also find it telling that the average age of death reported was 79.5.

[Ellsworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm1-DnxRiPM

[Ellsworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkGNvWflCNM

[Ellsworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRmlumcN_s

[Ellsworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBuP40H4Tko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-_FAjNSd58

[hater]

So people with high blood pressure, diabetes or heart diseases are at the greatest risk of death.

Good thing we don't have any those things here

:lol

[DarrinS]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fl4isk/an_italian_town_tested_all_3300_residents_found_3/

The lack of testing here makes it a huge challenge. I'm hoping that Austin-based company is able to scale their home testing kit. Heard the damn cotton swabs are in short supply tho.

[vy65]

The lack of testing here makes it a huge challenge. I'm hoping that Austin-based company is able to scale their home testing kit. Heard the damn cotton swabs are in short supply tho.

Shit, I didn't know Everlywell was from Austin. 1 of the three swab manufacturers is in Italy ...

[pgardn]

Hopefully we have a decent understanding of this mess a year from now.

[DarrinS]

Shit's gonna get real in trumpland.

Srsly, you're right. But I also find it telling that the average age of death reported was 79.5.


People keep talking about ventilator shortage, but seriously, if you are getting on a ventilator, you're probably fucked, tbh. I would never get on one of those things.

[boutons_deux]

Trash to the states: G F Y (iow, don't bother me anymore. It's not my responsibility)

‘We’re not a shipping clerk’:

Trump tells governors to step up efforts to get medical supplies

The president’s remarks amounted to a rebuke of governors’ recent pleas for greater federal intervention.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/trump-governors-coronavirus-medical-supplies-137658 (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/trump-governors-coronavirus-medical-supplies-137658)

FEMA absent for Covid-19 EMERGENCY?

[DMC]

Sucks, because hypertension is genetic for many people. My wife has it, and she's a petite woman.

Yes she is.

[DarrinS]

Shit, I didn't know Everlywell was from Austin. 1 of the three swab manufacturers is in Italy ...

Fuck. Hopefully some U.S. company can step in and fill the void. Just longer q-tips

[DarrinS]

Yes she is.

:lmao

Fuckin dickhead

[DMC]

People keep talking about ventilator shortage, but seriously, if you are getting on a ventilator, you're probably fucked, tbh. I would never get on one of those things.

If you need one and can't get on one, you're fucked. Pretty sure when you need one no one gets your permission.

[DMC]

:lmao

Fuckin dickhead

:lol

[DMC]

Fuck. Hopefully some U.S. company can step in and fill the void. Just longer q-tips

Bend over, I'll step in and fill the fuckin' void with a longer Q-tip.

[spurraider21]

California governor issues statewide order to ‘stay at home’ effective Thursday evening (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/california-governor-issues-statewide-order-to-stay-at-home-effective-thursday-evening.html)


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[DMC]

California governor issues statewide order to ‘stay at home’ effective Thursday evening (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/california-governor-issues-statewide-order-to-stay-at-home-effective-thursday-evening.html)


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Half of LA has to go back to their tents.

[DarrinS]

California governor issues statewide order to ‘stay at home’ effective Thursday evening (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/california-governor-issues-statewide-order-to-stay-at-home-effective-thursday-evening.html)


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Man, that's getting crazy out there. Can you walk your dog?

[DarrinS]

Half of LA has to go back to their tents.

Ok, I laughed

[slick'81]

Man, that's getting crazy out there. Can you walk your dog?


Hell no

[Blake]

California governor issues statewide order to ‘stay at home’ effective Thursday evening (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/california-governor-issues-statewide-order-to-stay-at-home-effective-thursday-evening.html)


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I wonder how long before Texas follows suit. I'll say 4 days.

I'm gonna go to the store tomorrow for more toilet paper

[hater]

damn Cali supposed to have 56% of their population with Corona

:wow

got damns

[hater]

we are so fucked :lmao

[pgardn]

Ok, I laughed

I did as well.

That is a really extreme order tho.

The riding trails in SA were full of peeps after I got off work.
People were parking on the grass at the entry points.
Close to 95 miles of bike paths. gonna go all the way around the city eventually.
One good thing about cities is flood plains that cant be built on.
Until they actually flood

[DarrinS]

We have community spread now in SA.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/03/17/heres-what-we-know-about-the-4-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-san-antonio/


Would be nice to know what part of town. Don't know why they don't disclose that.

[pgardn]

I wonder how long before Texas follows suit. I'll say 4 days.

I'm gonna go to the store tomorrow for more toilet paper

Paper your neighbor with the Trump 2020 yard sign.

[DMX7]

5th Year Anniversary of this great tweet:

446461592029630464

[slick'81]

We have community spread now in SA.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/03/17/heres-what-we-know-about-the-4-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-san-antonio/


Would be nice to know what part of town. Don't know why they don't disclose that.

so people dont panic,wait

[DarrinS]

I did as well.

That is a really extreme order tho.

The riding trails in SA were full of peeps after I got off work.
People were parking on the grass at the entry points.
Close to 95 miles of bike paths. gonna go all the way around the city eventually.
One good thing about cities is flood plains that cant be built on.
Until they actually flood


Better to be outdoors, if you can.

[ElNono]

Half of LA has to go back to their tents.

:lol

[Blake]

Paper your neighbor with the Trump 2020 yard sign.

We might be using those signs to wipe our asses in the near future

[ElNono]

Man, that's getting crazy out there. Can you walk your dog?

You can. Basically non-essential stores closed, Gamestop notwithstanding

[pgardn]

We have community spread now in SA.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/03/17/heres-what-we-know-about-the-4-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-san-antonio/


Would be nice to know what part of town. Don't know why they don't disclose that.

Like I said, GPs be swabbing in the parking lots when people call in with fever and all the signs. If its urgent, they tell em go to the hospitals.
My wife is in the middle of this crap. I think they are doing their best to keep milder cases at home. Now we got acetaminophen early as being a possible trick for being a way to stop bad symptoms later. I have a difficult time with so many rumors or actual info, that you can take to give a variety of outcomes.

News by the minute is really a double edge sword.

[pgardn]

We might be using those signs to wipe our asses in the near future

Making good use of all available material.

[pgardn]

Better to be outdoors, if you can.

Im there after work.
gonna turn into Lance Armstrong without the blood doping.

[DarrinS]

Like I said, GPs be swabbing in the parking lots when people call in with fever and all the signs. If its urgent, they tell em go to the hospitals.
My wife is in the middle of this crap. I think they are doing their best to keep milder cases at home. Now we got acetaminophen early as being a possible trick for being a way to stop bad symptoms later. I have a difficult time with so many rumors or actual info, that you can take to give a variety of outcomes.

News by the minute is really a double edge sword.


Sorry to hear your wife is on the front lines of this. Heard anecdotal info that advil, aspirin can make it worse. I've got plenty of Tylenol tho.

[spurraider21]

Man, that's getting crazy out there. Can you walk your dog?
presumably (i dont live in CA anymore)... it's not a curfew or martial law type stuff. but everything is closed except essentials like grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals, and banks

[DarrinS]

You can. Basically non-essential stores closed, Gamestop notwithstanding

Haven't been to a GameStop in a few years. My son now uses that Steam software or whateverthefuck. :lol

[Thread]

presumably (i dont live in CA anymore)... it's not a curfew or martial law type stuff. but everything is closed except essentials like grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals, and banks

You even flash a second to taking some of your boodle out of there & into a "mattress" at the house, 21?

[DarrinS]

presumably (i dont live in CA anymore)... it's not a curfew or martial law type stuff. but everything is closed except essentials like grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals, and banks

My sister is in the bay area. Will give her a call.

[spurraider21]

You even flash a second to taking some of your boodle out of there & into a "mattress" at the house, 21?
nah. accounts are FDIC insured. FDIC has never failed a claim since coming into existence. it's safer there than in my mattress

[Blake]

You even flash a second to taking some of your boodle out of there & into a "mattress" at the house, 21?

Lol mattress.

Boomer humor

[Nathan89]

People keep talking about ventilator shortage, but seriously, if you are getting on a ventilator, you're probably fucked, tbh. I would never get on one of those things.

Why? At that point you are in significant trouble but they are saving lives.

[pgardn]

Sorry to hear your wife is on the front lines of this. Heard anecdotal info that advil, aspirin can make it worse. I've got plenty of Tylenol tho.

She is a somewhat cautious wanna be heroine type.
So I plan on getting it from her.

[spurraider21]

My sister is in the bay area. Will give her a call.
:tu... just called my parents and sister to check in on them

interesting tidbit in california (LA area... more specifically northridge). to date, everything i had heard about markets/stores with empty shelves is that it had really been a demand problem, not a supply problem (stores still getting all their shipments, people are just cleaning out shelves at a ridiculous rate), but today apparently my aunt went to ralphs (same company as kroger) and their deli/meat section was all cleared out. she asked if they'd be restocking and the manager said they have been getting less shipments. less truckers on routes, etc.

first i had heard about the supply chain being hit, but thats a purely anecdotal case

[Blake]

She is a somewhat cautious wanna be heroine type.
So I plan on getting it from her.

You mean like koriwhat? Oh wait I misread a word there

[baseline bum]

Haven't been to a GameStop in a few years. My son now uses that Steam software or whateverthefuck. :lol

https://i.ibb.co/0m62XS3/gslol.jpg

[pgardn]

Why? At that point you are in significant trouble but they are saving lives.

I think its possible because by that time you might be experiencing multiple organ failures and it might not do a thing.
So then you might assume it hurt the cause. The timing of use for this virus appears to be very important. Not too early or late.
Who knows until the info on this particular virus has more stats.

[baseline bum]

nah. accounts are FDIC insured. FDIC has never failed a claim since coming into existence. it's safer there than in my mattress

Bend over, I'll give you an F DIC

[pgardn]

SF6 started all this bend over stuff, correct?

[spurraider21]

SF6 started all this bend over stuff, correct?
im pretty sure that's a Culburn special

[Thread]

nah. accounts are FDIC insured. FDIC has never failed a claim since coming into existence. it's safer there than in my mattress

What scares me is I thought about it and approached the wife. "Do you think it'd be wise?" The biggest surprise was she'd had the same gd thought but hadn't said anything to me about it.

What concerns is not so much having it here at the house, but, the teller/others there would know I'd withdrawn it. I know me, before a week is up I'll have it here at the house.

When this first started I went up to WalMart and came across the toilet paper aisle. She'd sent me to get her favorite Cottenelle Extra Comfort (purple packaging). The fuckin' thing sittin' there all alone. Almost surreal. One 12 roll package in a completely empty section surrounded by empty sections. I grabbed it and looked all the way down the other end to the plain label toilet paper. Not a day goes by that I don't regret not going down there and getting several packages of that stuff.

I know there ain't no comparison, but, I don't want to regret leaving that entire boodle in there & someday can't get to it. "There is nothing we can do. Sorry."

[Thread]

im pretty sure that's a Culburn special

It was me.

[pgardn]

You mean like koriwhat? Oh wait I misread a word there

probably the her and she stuff for an actual female (more of a Derptacular disease possibly)

[DarrinS]

:tu... just called my parents and sister to check in on them

interesting tidbit in california (LA area... more specifically northridge). to date, everything i had heard about markets/stores with empty shelves is that it had really been a demand problem, not a supply problem (stores still getting all their shipments, people are just cleaning out shelves at a ridiculous rate), but today apparently my aunt went to ralphs (same company as kroger) and their deli/meat section was all cleared out. she asked if they'd be restocking and the manager said they have been getting less shipments. less truckers on routes, etc.

first i had heard about the supply chain being hit, but thats a purely anecdotal case


My sister and her husband are both doctors. Just called her and they are both still working and seeing patients. I guess you're exempt, if it's essential service.

[MannyIsGod]

Relatively to Europe and Asia, US has the most undisciplined, self centered youth on the planet. Millennial and Zs. We’re fucked.


Ah, yes, the selfish millenials who have to deal with the climate chane, debt, shitty healthcare, and endless forgiven wars put on them by the boomes. Yes, the Millenials and the kids who cna't even vote yet are the reason we're fucked.

[baseline bum]

It was me.

Man I been telling people to bend over since you were touching your little sister on the school bus.

[spurraider21]

What scares me is I thought about it and approached the wife. "Do you think it'd be wise?" The biggest surprise was she'd had the same gd thought but hadn't said anything to me about it.

What concerns is not so much having it here at the house, but, the teller/others there would know I'd withdrawn it. I know me, before a week is up I'll have it here at the house.

When this first started I went up to WalMart and came across the toilet paper aisle. She'd sent me to get her favorite Cottenelle Extra Comfort (purple packaging). The fuckin' thing sittin' there all alone. Almost surreal. One 12 roll package in a completely empty section surrounded by empty sections. I grabbed it and looked all the way down the other end to the plain label toilet paper. Not a day goes by that I don't regret not going down there and getting several packages of that stuff.

I know there ain't no comparison, but, I don't want to regret leaving that entire boodle in there & someday can't get to it. "There is nothing we can do. Sorry."
it's a natural concern, but FDIC is the feds, not the banks themselves. could the banks go under? sure. washington mutual did. but FDIC makes sure either another bank acquires everything or they would pay out themselves.

[DarrinS]

Ah, yes, the selfish millenials who have to deal with the climate chane, debt, shitty healthcare, and endless forgiven wars put on them by the boomes. Yes, the Millenials and the kids who cna't even vote yet are the reason we're fucked.


I have to admit, millenials have lived through a lot of fucked up shit.

[Bynumite]

Called it.

EDIT: ME

[Thread]

Man I been telling people to bend over since you were touching your little sister on the school bus.


Don't even try it, bum. I invented that fucker & you ain't stealin' it. Knock it the fuck off.

[spurraider21]

My sister and her husband are both doctors. Just called her and they are both still working and seeing patients. I guess you're exempt, if it's essential service.
been texting a longtime friend of mine who's currently doing his residency in detroit. said overall their ER visits are down because people are staying home instead of coming in with the typical bullshit complaints, but something like 2/3 of the people who are coming in are complaining of respiratory issues and asking for tests.

i asked what their testing capability looks like and he said they ran out of testing kits. they were testing in house but now are sending them out to the CDC... dont know what the turnaround time on those are

[MannyIsGod]

I have to admit, millenials have lived through a lot of fucked up shit.

Now I know this shit has you scared.

[pgardn]

My sister and her husband are both doctors. Just called her and they are both still working and seeing patients. I guess you're exempt, if it's essential service.

Definitely are in Texas.
But a testing schedule awaits them.

[DarrinS]

Now I know this shit has you scared.

Of course I'm scared. I'm not retarded.

[slick'81]

So does praying still work?

[DarrinS]

been texting a longtime friend of mine who's currently doing his residency in detroit. said overall their ER visits are down because people are staying home instead of coming in with the typical bullshit complaints, but something like 2/3 of the people who are coming in are complaining of respiratory issues and asking for tests.

i asked what their testing capability looks like and he said they ran out of testing kits. they were testing in house but now are sending them out to the CDC... dont know what the turnaround time on those are


The testing situation is a clusterfuck, but not surprising. We'll get it ironed out in the next few weeks.

My sister said her patients appointments have dropped by 1/3.

[apalisoc_9]

Germany is the interesting outlier so far. Only 20 fatalities. per NYT

Under reporting. Appaerently people who die of pneumonia with COVID19 gets written as Pneumonia cause of death

[pgardn]

So does praying still work?

When you have nothing else, where do you turn?
If you were raised Catholic anyways.

[MannyIsGod]

Of course I'm scared. I'm not retarded.

I hope you make it through this relatively OK man. We're all going to need some therapy afterwards but hopefully we all make it through with our families and jobs intact.

[pgardn]

been texting a longtime friend of mine who's currently doing his residency in detroit. said overall their ER visits are down because people are staying home instead of coming in with the typical bullshit complaints, but something like 2/3 of the people who are coming in are complaining of respiratory issues and asking for tests.

i asked what their testing capability looks like and he said they ran out of testing kits. they were testing in house but now are sending them out to the CDC... dont know what the turnaround time on those are

You sure they were testing them in house?
The test I was aware of needs one to amplify RNA from the virus in the swab. I dont know of many places that can do that in house?
Do you have any idea what type of test they were using? Maybe there are more/new tests than what I was told.

[spurraider21]

You sure they were testing them in house?
The test I was aware of needs one to amplify RNA from the virus in the swab. I dont know of many places that can do that in house?
Do you have any idea what type of test they were using? Maybe there are more/new tests than what I was told.
https://i.gyazo.com/feb5253f07a66d047d950724b5bd7f4c.png

no clue what type of test they were running

[vy65]

What scares me is I thought about it and approached the wife. "Do you think it'd be wise?" The biggest surprise was she'd had the same gd thought but hadn't said anything to me about it.

Wait. Hold on Cubster, hold that goddamn phone. Are we talking about a bank run? Or the time you and Katie girl decided on DET BULL?

[hater]

not scared yet nigas

by worrying you already 10 steps ahead of the majority whos is fucking clueles. you will most likely survive.

[pgardn]

https://i.gyazo.com/feb5253f07a66d047d950724b5bd7f4c.png

no clue what type of test they were running

If you have time I would really like to know if they had the capability of amplifying RNA?
We have not been told a whole lot about tests, so I had been reading up and read and then confirmed through the wife they had to be sent out.

There will come a time where we have much simpler test kits, like a simple color change that can be read on a machine or just visually.
but these things take time.

[pgardn]

21

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/henry-ford-and-beaumont-have-michigans-first-same-day-coronavirus-tests

They have something.
I would just like to know how it works.

[spurraider21]

21

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/henry-ford-and-beaumont-have-michigans-first-same-day-coronavirus-tests

They have something.
I would just like to know how it works.
dont know. next time im talkin to him i'll ask.

although dude is a trumper and told me he wasn't taking this seriously until about 5 days ago :bang

one of the smartest guys i've ever known (consistently top of our class in middle school, high school... valedictorian, killed it at UCLA), and he lets politics cloud his judgment even in his profession, smh

[Blake]

When you have nothing else, where do you turn?
If you were raised Catholic anyways.

I wonder how the Vatican is doing

[Thread]

Wait. Hold on Cubster, hold that goddamn phone. Are we talking about a bank run? Or the time you and Katie girl decided on DET BULL?

lol. At this juncture I wish it was "DET BULL" decision.

[DarrinS]

I hope you make it through this relatively OK man. We're all going to need some therapy afterwards but hopefully we all make it through with our families and jobs intact.

Thanks man. We will get through this -- I have ZERO doubt. And we will learn from it and be better prepared for the next one.

I am glad that this virus appears to spare the young.

[pgardn]

I wonder how the Vatican is doing

Gonna go the monk route and isolate, chant... if they are smart.

[vy65]

lol. At this juncture I wish it was "DET BULL" decision.

Bend over and I'll show you a juncture for DET BULL

[Thread]

I hope you make it through this relatively OK man. We're all going to need some therapy afterwards but hopefully we all make it through with our families and jobs intact.

Amen to that, Manny.

[vy65]

Thanks man. We will get through this -- I have ZERO doubt. And we will learn from it and be better prepared for the next one.

I am glad that this virus appears to spare the young.

I think a large portion, maybe even the majority, of the concern/hysteria is that we don't know what's going on. We've had wars and natural disasters and economic collapses in modern times. But the last time something remotely similar to this happened was 102 years ago. I think that, more than anything else, accounts for everything. We don't know how to react to this so you get what very well could be seen as overreactions in hindsight. All you can do is be still and take each day as they come.

[Thread]

I think a large portion, maybe even the majority, of the concern/hysteria is that we don't know what's going on. We've had wars and natural disasters and economic collapses in modern times. But the last time something remotely similar to this happened was 102 years ago. I think that, more than anything else, accounts for everything. We don't know how to react to this so you get what very well could be seen as overreactions in hindsight. All you can do is be still and take each day as they come.

Yes, vy.

[pgardn]

dont know. next time im talkin to him i'll ask.

although dude is a trumper and told me he wasn't taking this seriously until about 5 days ago :bang

one of the smartest guys i've ever known (consistently top of our class in middle school, high school... valedictorian, killed it at UCLA), and he lets politics cloud his judgment even in his profession, smh

Which is why I have stated I dont know what smart is.
But I know exactly what you are talking about.
Moral code and the ability to recognize patterns and remember everything dont necessarily mix.

I still have not figured out why the intent to deceive (lying) has become such a minor detour from telling the truth.
Wft happened to the 10 commandments...

8. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
The Eighth Commandment condemns lying. Because God is regarded as the author of all truth, the Church believes that humans are obligated to honor the truth. The most obvious way to fulfill this commandment is not to lie — intentionally deceive another by speaking a falsehood. So a good Catholic is who you want to buy a used car from

[Mark Celibate]

Lol.

Too bad we'll never know if tech was gonna be in the dance :depressed

the silverlining is that we likely won't see Beard get money-whipped to Austin tbh imho

[DarrinS]

I think a large portion, maybe even the majority, of the concern/hysteria is that we don't know what's going on. We've had wars and natural disasters and economic collapses in modern times. But the last time something remotely similar to this happened was 102 years ago. I think that, more than anything else, accounts for everything. We don't know how to react to this so you get what very well could be seen as overreactions in hindsight. All you can do is be still and take each day as they come.


The only thing that would have helped us 100 years ago, was that people weren't easily travelling over the globe. This thing was only discovered a few months ago, and information is now spreading rapidly (no thanks to the Chinese).

I think an effective treatment is coming


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJmQETsaIA

[DarrinS]

It still blows my mind that something that can be completely destroyed by a bar of soap, can fuck us up so much if it gets into our system.

[baseline bum]

It still blows my mind that something that can be completely destroyed by a bar of soap, can fuck us up so much if it gets into our system.

All those kids eating Tide Pods don't look so stupid now do they?

[pgardn]

It still blows my mind that something that can be completely destroyed by a bar of soap, can fuck us up so much if it gets into our system.

Its all about protein receptors.
They are extraordinarily fragile.
Change the pH, change the shape of the protein, they dont bind to cells and your immune system blasts them.
They could not even do anything if your immune system did not devour them. They cant hide(inside cells), replicate, and overwhelm.

Still dont get why they are so extraordinarily transmissible. Im betting the load (# of viruses) produced, is huge.
I will most likely be wrong.

[vy65]

The only thing that would have helped us 100 years ago, was that people weren't easily travelling over the globe. This thing was only discovered a few months ago, and information is now spreading rapidly (no thanks to the Chinese).

I think an effective treatment is coming


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJmQETsaIA

Science is pretty dope.

[pgardn]

All those kids eating Tide Pods don't look so stupid now do they?

My dog licking soap bars..
Still dont get it.

[baseline bum]

Its all about protein receptors.
They are extraordinarily fragile.
Change the pH, change the shape of the protein, they dont bind to cells and your immune system blasts them.
They could not even do anything if your immune system did not devour them. They cant hide(inside cells), replicate, and overwhelm.

Still dont get why they are so extraordinarily transmissible. Im betting the load (# of viruses) produced, is huge.
I will most likely be wrong.

I like that confidence. :lol

[pgardn]

Science is pretty dope.

It is, but its also got us into a lot of trouble.
We think we know more than we do.

All the mistakes we have made with combating invasive species with other organisms that take over an ecosystem.
The air and trees. We have fcked with both constantly throughout history with incredibly bad results. See Easter Island (trees) and London during the industrial revolution. So many more lessons we have not learned.

[DarrinS]

All those kids eating Tide Pods don't look so stupid now do they?

They were trend setters. Ahead of their time.

[vy65]

Its all about protein receptors.
They are extraordinarily fragile.
Change the pH, change the shape of the protein, they dont bind to cells and your immune system blasts them.
They could not even do anything if your immune system did not devour them. They cant hide(inside cells), replicate, and overwhelm.

Still dont get why they are so extraordinarily transmissible. Im betting the load (# of viruses) produced, is huge.
I will most likely be wrong.

Bend over and I'll show you a huge load

[dude21]

This gonna hit hard for everyone. Do some light exercises to get your system in good shape. Don't work out while sick though.

[DarrinS]

International community needs to pressure China to close down their bat/pangolin/cat Golden Corrals.