Just for perspective...

[SASdynasty!]

Tony Parker by age 24:

RS: 19/6 on 52%, 2x All-Star
PO: 21/6 on 48%, 3x Champion, 1x FMVP

Dejonte Murray at age 23:

RS: 10/4 on 48%, 0x All Star
PO: 8/2 on 45%, never won a series as a starter

Welcome to a new era, tbh

[Genovaswitness]

tony parker is the second or third greatest PG of all time, kind of an unfair comparison tbh..this team's horrid construction and anti 3 pt stance for anybody that isn't forbes or belinelli is as much if not more to blame for murray's shortcomings..

[MultiTroll]

Tony Parker by age 24:

RS: 19/6 on 52%, 2x All-Star
PO: 21/6 on 48%, 3x Champion, 1x FMVP

Dejonte Murray at age 23:

RS: 10/4 on 48%, 0x All Star
PO: 8/2 on 45%, never won a series as a starter

Welcome to a new era, tbh
Teamate, defensive anchor: Tim Duncan

Teamate, defensive anchor: Bryn Forms

[ZeusWillJudge]

Tony Parker > Murray. Got it.

[exstatic]

Tony Parker > Murray. Got it.

TP+Manu+Tim >> DJM+DD+LMA

[EasyMoney]

This is why I can't take some of you seriously. Just flat out embarrassing.

[TDomination]

I miss the big 3...this is where we become like cowboy fans and start reminiscing on the past lol

Hopefully it doesn't take us over 20 years to be great again

[MVPCues]

Ruth's Chris has better steaks than Waffle House. I think we need an article on that discovery.

[itzsoweezee]

Murray is coming off of a devastating knee injury, on a role player contract.

Parker is a hall of famer and got paid a lot more. Murray is not the problem. It's popovich and his washed up ways

[Darius Bieber]

Teamate, defensive anchor: Tim Duncan

Teamate, defensive anchor: Bryn Forms

And Bowen & Robinson etc

[SupremeGuy]

He was only 24 in 07?

[mo7888]

He was only 24 in 07?

Yep

[Truth4sale$]

Actually, Tony Parker had already been playing professional basketball (like most Europeans ) since the age of 15 or 16, and he too couldn't shoot, and had to learn how to be a point guard that could run a offense and get others involved. Parker was a scoring point guard.
Dejounte (no fault of his), needs a veteran point guard to teach him how to be a point guard. He didnt get a chance to really learn under Parker, between the Parker injury and Gleague, Dejounte has been on his own. I dont count Mills because he is a shooter. The Spurs need(ed) a old point guard to be a mentor ;one as the 15th man, or on the coaching staff, like Nick Van Exel was on the Grizzlies staff.

[EasyMoney]

Actually, Tony Parker had already been playing professional basketball (like most Europeans ) since the age of 15 or 16, and he too couldn't shoot, and had to learn how to be a point guard that could run a offense and get others involved. Parker was a scoring point guard.
Dejounte (no fault of his), needs a veteran point guard to teach him how to be a point guard. He didnt get a chance to really learn under Parker, between the Parker injury and Gleague, Dejounte has been on his own. I dont count Mills because he is a shooter. The Spurs need(ed) a old point guard to be a mentor ;one as the 15th man, or on the coaching staff, like Nick Van Exel was on the Grizzlies staff.


That is so true, 2 years ago he had Tony and Manu. This year he has patty mills who isn't a point guard, and Derrick white who is learning himself.

Jamal Crawford is still roaming around free agency. He isn't a point guard but he closely resembles who dejounte can be in his prime and can help him along the way. He's been mentoring him for years anyway and is close with lamarcus too

[itzsoweezee]

Yep

He was 25.

[tenbeersbold]

Tony Parker by age 24:

RS: 19/6 on 52%, 2x All-Star
PO: 21/6 on 48%, 3x Champion, 1x FMVP

Dejonte Murray at age 23:

RS: 10/4 on 48%, 0x All Star
PO: 8/2 on 45%, never won a series as a starter

Welcome to a new era, tbh


Actually letting TP9 go to Charlotte was the start of bizarre PATFO moves the last few years tbh.
He could have easily started for another year and the money...fucking hell...let the guy retire at home

I miss having a scoring PG who could actually FINISH at the rim.
They should have kept TP9 around just for that...to teach the kids how to FINISH

Patfo has dished out stupid money to Gasol/Mills and players like Carroll..it makes NO sense

[mo7888]

He was 25.

He turned 25 during the year...he was 24 for part of it.

[itzsoweezee]

He turned 25 during the year...he was 24 for part of it.

He was not 24 when he won his third championship, as the OP claims. He was 25.

[Genovaswitness]

Actually letting TP9 go to Charlotte was the start of bizarre PATFO moves the last few years tbh.
He could have easily started for another year and the money...fucking hell...let the guy retire at home

I miss having a scoring PG who could actually FINISH at the rim.
They should have kept TP9 around just for that...to teach the kids how to FINISH

Patfo has dished out stupid money to Gasol/Mills and players like Carroll..it makes NO sense

yet people here wonder why kawhi left :lmao

[diego]

Parker >>> murray and thats fairly obvious to anyone with a brain.

That said, the OP is a notorious stat cherry picker.

He lists all of parkers accomplishments through age 24, including the 07 title and fmvp which came at age 25. but he only posts parkers statline for 07 regular season, and even then he is generous (18.6pts, 5.5 ast regular season become 19/6 for example).

worse still he compares it to murrays age 23 regular season numbers, and his age 21 season play off numbers, and makes no mention of murrays strengths, rebounding and defense. its just so cheap and unnecessary.

since i have a slow ass day at work, lets do the reverse for shits and giggles to annoy this idiot:

Dejounte murray age 21: 8 pts, 6 reb, 2nd team all defense

Tony parker age 19: 9 pts, 3 reb, no accolades

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Tony Parker by age 24:

RS: 19/6 on 52%, 2x All-Star
PO: 21/6 on 48%, 3x Champion, 1x FMVP

Dejonte Murray at age 23:

RS: 10/4 on 48%, 0x All Star
PO: 8/2 on 45%, never won a series as a starter

Welcome to a new era, tbh


murray has more Instagram followers though

[cool cat]

I don't get the point where has anyone on this board ever said a 23 year old Murray is better then a 24 year old Parker?

[mo7888]

He was not 24 when he won his third championship, as the OP claims. He was 25.

Yes, but I didnt response to the op. I simply responded to the person who asked if he was 24 on 07.

[TDomination]

murray doesn't have a player like timmy to lead the way either.

obviously parker was better but still, without Tim, you can change Parkers 3x champion to 0 championships

[itzsoweezee]

Yes, but I didnt response to the op. I simply responded to the person who asked if he was 24 on 07.

He was obviously referencing the championship.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully Murray doesn't go to Chatlotte in his final season for more minutes, only to get benched by an East lottery team and ruin his legacy with the Spurs:lol

Smh, why couldn't TP just retire gracefully?

[r0drig0lac]

Tony Parker > Murray. Got it.

[mo7888]

He was obviously referencing the championship.

I don't think so but if its bothering you...ask him... I thought he was just marveling that TP was that young in 07..

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Parker was the fastest guy in the league with the ball. I've never seen a player that fast with a basketball before him. He also was the greatest finisher of all time (just ask Erin). These two things combined with the fact that he actually knew how to fucking dribble more than made up for his lack of a jumpshot early on in his career. Murray has none of these attributes :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Parker was the fastest guy in the league with the ball. I've never seen a player that fast with a basketball before him. He also was the greatest finisher of all time (just ask Erin). These two things combined with the fact that he actually knew how to fucking dribble more than made up for his lack of a jumpshot early on in his career. Murray has none of these attributes :lol

Very true. He was always listed as one of the top finishers at the rim. You'd see all centers and power forwards on leaders list and then you see Tony thrown in there at the top.

Murray can't make a shot if he gets bumped. Tony seemed like he needed contact in order to finish (just ask Erin).