NFL / NBA equivalents

[DAF86]

Vick = Iverson: Extremely popular players who represent "the street" over the "status quo". Also extremely overrated. Style over substance. Outside the field/court problems. Both my favourite players of all-time in their respective sports.

Brady = Russell: The best players in the winningest dynasties of their respective sports. Boston players. Great players but overrated because of their team success. The majority GOATS untill the true GOATS come along (NBA= MJ - NFL= yet to be determined).

Peyton = Wilt: Unprecedented regular season display but relatively poor playoffs success in comparisson to that RS dominance. Arguably the GOATS of their generation.

Mahomes = Curry: Mercurial talents with flashy styles. Mixed-raced sons of former athletes. Everyone's favourites. The faces of the change of eras in each league.

I'm gonna let the Rodgers=Lebron and Wilson=Harden comparissons to my brotha ClipperNation. :lol

[Darth_Pelican]

Brees = Dirk. Great stats, well respected and loved by fans and peers. Each have one historic title run/ring. (Dirk beat Lebron to win a ring, Brees beat 3 former SuperBowl MVPs to win a ring).

Marino = CP3. Great passers, no rings.

[SpursforSix]

Leonard Fournette = Sam Cassell

[Millennial_Messiah]

Kobe = Walter Payton

(too obvious)

[Millennial_Messiah]

Leonard Fournette = Sam Cassell

??

[Millennial_Messiah]

Brees = Dirk. Great stats, well respected and loved by fans and peers. Each have one historic title run/ring. (Dirk beat Lebron to win a ring, Brees beat 3 former SuperBowl MVPs to win a ring).

Marino = CP3. Great passers, no rings.
Marino = Steve Nash is a better one. CP3 is a punk. Nash was a truly special passer, and he set assist records that won't be broken, especially since point guards of today don't really care after they get the 10th assist.

[DAF86]

Brees = Dirk. Great stats, well respected and loved by fans and peers. Each have one historic title run/ring. (Dirk beat Lebron to win a ring, Brees beat 3 former SuperBowl MVPs to win a ring).

Marino = CP3. Great passers, no rings.

Brees = CP3 is another good comparisson in the sense that they both have historic regular season numbers but never won regular season MVP. And both probably got robbed of one.

[FrostKing]

Tim Duncan & Reggie White

Karl Malone & Derrick Thomas

Phil Jackson & Bill Parcels

[Will Hunting]

Marino = Steve Nash is a better one. CP3 is a punk. Nash was a truly special passer, and he set assist records that won't be broken, especially since point guards of today don't really care after they get the 10th assist.
It’s selling Marino too short. There were years when Marino was considered to be the best player in the NFL...even when Nash won his two MVPs no one considered him the best player in the NBA.

[spurraider21]

Kobe - Ben Roethlisberger

Russell Westbrook - Cam Newton

Randy Moss - Steph Curry

Tony Romo - Chris Webber

[Millennial_Messiah]

It’s selling Marino too short. There were years when Marino was considered to be the best player in the NFL...even when Nash won his two MVPs no one considered him the best player in the NBA.

Nash was the best player in the NBA in '05, the year after Shaq left the Lakers. '06 it was questionable because of how many points Kobe scored that year, but Nash did lead an awful supporting cast to the #2 seed in the better conference.

Meanwhile CP3 was never considered among the very best in the NBA... not on the Pelicans, Clippers won without him regularly etc. and lol at the Rockets. CP3 was always a second tier all star.

[leemajors]

It’s selling Marino too short. There were years when Marino was considered to be the best player in the NFL...even when Nash won his two MVPs no one considered him the best player in the NBA.

Would be interesting to see Marino with today's rules.

[DAF86]

Randy Moss - Steph Curry


Why?

[spurraider21]

Why?
changed the way defenses had to play

unparalleled "gravity" on the field/court

[Will Hunting]

Nash was the best player in the NBA in '05, the year after Shaq left the Lakers. '06 it was questionable because of how many points Kobe scored that year, but Nash did lead an awful supporting cast to the #2 seed in the better conference.

Meanwhile CP3 was never considered among the very best in the NBA... not on the Pelicans, Clippers won without him regularly etc. and lol at the Rockets. CP3 was always a second tier all star.
05 - He was the flavor of the month more than he was the best player. He fit really well into a system but I wouldn’t classify ‘05 Nash as a better individual player than ‘05 Duncan or ‘05 Shaq. There’s other players in ‘05 too who I’d classify as better individual players but those are the two obvious ones, especially Duncan.

06 - Suns were a distant 3rd best team in the West that year, the other 2 teams just happened to be in the same division and the NBA hasn’t fixed its seeding rules yet. ‘06 Lebron, ‘06 Kobe, and ‘06 Dirk were all better. Nash was a better fit for the team he was on , but the aforementioned players were all better and more dominant individually.

[Darth_Pelican]

Favre = Kobe

Gunslingers, super competitive, tons of spectacular plays but tons of volume that led to bad plays as well. Kobe holds the NBA record for most career Field Goals missed (14,481) and Favre holds the NFL record for most career interceptions (336).

Both have a perverted side; Favre texted penis pics to girls while married, Kobe cheated on wife in a hotel.

[Will Hunting]

The Brady / Russell comparison wouldn’t be completely retarded except for the fact Russell won championships when the league had like 8 total teams, Brady won championships in a league with 32 teams.

If any player led a team to as many championships as Russell did in the modern 30 team league, he’d unquestionably be considered the GOAT.

[DAF86]

Favre = Kobe

Gunslingers, super competitive, tons of spectacular plays but tons of volume that led to bad plays as well. Kobe hold the NBA record for most career Field Goals missed (14,481) and Favre holds the NFL record for most career interceptions (336).

Both have a perverted side; Favre texted penis pics to girls while married, Kobe cheated on wife in a hotel.

Both very overrated by fans amd mainstream media. That's a great analogy, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

05 - He was the flavor of the month more than he was the best player. He fit really well into a system but I wouldn’t classify ‘05 Nash as a better individual player than ‘05 Duncan or ‘05 Shaq. There’s other players in ‘05 too who I’d classify as better individual players but those are the two obvious ones, especially Duncan.

06 - Suns were a distant 3rd best team in the West that year, the other 2 teams just happened to be in the same division and the NBA hasn’t fixed its seeding rules yet. ‘06 Lebron, ‘06 Kobe, and ‘06 Dirk were all better. Nash was a better fit for the team he was on , but the aforementioned players were all better and more dominant individually.

05 Nash was the best player in the NBA. 05 Shaq you could definitely argue wasn't the best player on his own team. 05 Duncan was still great but not the legendary dominant force that he was in 03. By spring '05, Duncan was still the alpha, but at that point both Manu and Parker were starting to close in on him. Spurs had a better overall defense and system than the Suns did, and much more depth, so we were a nightmare matchup for them. But they blazed their way through the rest of the league that year.

you could also argue 07 for Nash... it was Nash and Dirk neck and neck, but Nash didn't choke away a near perfect season against a vastly inferior .500 team. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Brady / Russell comparison wouldn’t be completely retarded except for the fact Russell won championships when the league had like 8 total teams, Brady won championships in a league with 32 teams.

If any player led a team to as many championships as Russell did in the modern 30 team league, he’d unquestionably be considered the GOAT.

Brady is more like Jordan IMO

[Will Hunting]

05 Nash was the best player in the NBA. 05 Shaq you could definitely argue wasn't the best player on his own team. 05 Duncan was still great but not the legendary dominant force that he was in 03. Spurs had a better overall defense and system than the Suns did, and much more depth, so we were a nightmare matchup for them. But they blazed their way through the rest of the league that year.

you could also argue 07 for Nash... it was Nash and Dirk neck and neck, but Nash didn't choke away a near perfect season against a vastly inferior .500 team. :lol
Would you prefer to build a conventional NBA team (not a gimmicky Dantoni coached team) around ‘05 Duncan or ‘05 Nash? Any rational person would say Duncan.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Would you prefer to build a conventional NBA team (not a gimmicky Dantoni coached team) around ‘05 Duncan or ‘05 Nash? Any rational person would say Duncan.

Give me '03 Duncan or '05 Nash.

Without Manu and Bowen the Spurs don't win the title in '05. '03 on the other hand, Duncan carried the entire team on his back better than any other player in NBA history. That team was full of old washed up scrubs and the young guys were still too young and raw.

'05 Nash made career scrubs like Q Richardson and Jim Jackson look very good, and Joe Johnson more than just a ballhog he was otherwise known for.

'00-'01 Shaq
'02-03 Duncan
'04 Garnett
'05 Nash
'06 Kobe
'07 Nash/Derp (sorry Gilbert)

[Millennial_Messiah]

Duncan is Joe Montana
Brady is Michael Jordan

[Will Hunting]

Give me '03 Duncan or '05 Nash.

Without Manu and Bowen the Spurs don't win the title in '05. '03 on the other hand, Duncan carried the entire team on his back better than any other player in NBA history. That team was full of old washed up scrubs and the young guys were still too young and raw.

'05 Nash made career scrubs like Q Richardson and Jim Jackson look very good, and Joe Johnson more than just a ballhog he was otherwise known for.

'00-'01 Shaq
'02-03 Duncan
'04 Garnett
'05 Nash
'06 Kobe
'07 Nash/Derp (sorry Gilbert)
:lol in the year he was on the Suns, Quentin Richardson’s PPG went down from the prior season with the Clippers and he was less efficient. The Suns actually ruined his career as they turned him into an inefficient chucker. Jim Jackson meanwhile averaged less PPG with the Suns than he did on Houston that season prior to being traded. He’d been a career role player / journeyman and he remained ome with the Suns.

Per usual though you dodged my question because you know the answer. Instead you want off on a random tangent about ‘03 Duncan which had nothing to do with anything.

[SuperCam]

Fraudgers = Jason Collins

[SpursforSix]

Daryl Stingly = Bryn Forbes

[spurraider21]

Daryl Stingly = Bryn Forbes
Garo Yepremian tbh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-pxMm_UdY4

[FrostKing]

Kareem to Rice
Jordan to Brown

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fraudgers = Jason Collins

lol, but no.

rodgers is more like durant

[Millennial_Messiah]

Antonio Brown = Gilbert Arenas... with a hint of Starbury

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol in the year he was on the Suns, Quentin Richardson’s PPG went down from the prior season with the Clippers and he was less efficient. The Suns actually ruined his career as they turned him into an inefficient chucker. Jim Jackson meanwhile averaged less PPG with the Suns than he did on Houston that season prior to being traded. He’d been a career role player / journeyman and he remained ome with the Suns.

Per usual though you dodged my question because you know the answer. Instead you want off on a random tangent about ‘03 Duncan which had nothing to do with anything.
Timmy was still the best player on his team in '05 but it was awfully close. By '07, he wasn't the best player on the Spurs. Nash took the Marbury roster and turned them from a 44 win team to a 62 win team instantaneously.

[spurraider21]

Robert Horry - Adam Vinatieri

[Millennial_Messiah]

Robert Horry - Adam Vinatieri

legarrette blount

[lefty]

Kobe - Ben Roethlisberger

Russell Westbrook - Cam Newton

Randy Moss - Steph Curry

Tony Romo - Chris WebberAccurate tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

if Marino isn't steve nash then he's john stockton

[Millennial_Messiah]

McGrady = Calvin Johnson

[Will Hunting]

if Marino isn't steve nash then he's john stockton
I like that comparison more tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

I like that comparison more tbh

I thought of it because Stockton/Marino made a Finals/Super Bowl but lost it to an even better talent, Jordan/Montana. Otherwise they were top playoff contenders but never made it to the biggest dance.

[Clipper Nation]

Lamar = Harden

Struggle = CP0

Cam = DeAndre Jordan

Brees = Steph

Rodgers = Kawhi

Mahomes = LeGOAT

[chunticakes]

Leonard Fournette = Sam Cassell

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[Spurtacular]

Leonard Fournette = Sam Cassell

They both look like Gollum?

[Spurtacular]

Rodgers = Kawhi

Rodgers stuck with his non large market team. Though I guess AR had the luxury of getting the coach fired.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Rodgers stuck with his non large market team. Though I guess AR had the luxury of getting the coach fired.

CN always comes up with the dumbest shit. He's a broken clock.


There's not many cases in the NBA of a guy who won a championship early and had a great career but didn't win another one.

[DAF86]

I wish SB MVP went to Williams so that the Mahomes=Curry comparisson would have been even more accurate. :lol

[monosylab1k]

Mahomes absolutely has potential to be the Jordan of the NFL. Brady is still the GOAT, and it will be a long ass time before he’s dethroned (if he ever is), but he never had the dynamic force of nature quality that Mahomes shares with MJ.

[spurraider21]

Andy Reid - Rick Carlisle

underrated but now will get slurped because he won

drew brees of coaches

[Millennial_Messiah]

Mahomes absolutely has potential to be the Jordan of the NFL. Brady is still the GOAT, and it will be a long ass time before he’s dethroned (if he ever is), but he never had the dynamic force of nature quality that Mahomes shares with MJ.

Only injuries will prevent Mahomes from becoming the GOAT over Brady IMO. And that includes winning 6 more rings which Mahomes has all the time in the world to do.

Chiefs will likely cut Watkins and his 16M with zero guaranteed for 2020. Probably cut Hitchens as well. They'll have plenty of money to replace those guys and overall improve their roster. Mahomes will get his 40M/year contract long term.

[monosylab1k]

Only injuries will prevent Mahomes from becoming the GOAT over Brady IMO. And that includes winning 6 more rings which Mahomes has all the time in the world to do.

Chiefs will likely cut Watkins and his 16M with zero guaranteed for 2020. Probably cut Hitchens as well. They'll have plenty of money to replace those guys and overall improve their roster. Mahomes will get his 40M/year contract long term.
If it was that easy lots of guys would have 6 rings. What Brady did is damn near impossible, but I give Mahomes a small shot at doing it. We’ll see how he fares going up against Burrow & Lawrence over the next decade.

[DAF86]

Only injuries will prevent Mahomes from becoming the GOAT over Brady IMO. And that includes winning 6 more rings which Mahomes has all the time in the world to do.

Chiefs will likely cut Watkins and his 16M with zero guaranteed for 2020. Probably cut Hitchens as well. They'll have plenty of money to replace those guys and overall improve their roster. Mahomes will get his 40M/year contract long term.

I doubt Mahomes gets 6, but he doesn't need to. If he gets 3 or 4 and continues on the pace he's at in terms of yds, TD's and regular season MVP's he will be considered the GOAT over Brady, imho.

[monosylab1k]

I doubt Mahomes gets 6, but he doesn't need to. If he gets 3 or 4 and continues on the pace he's at in terms of yds, TD's and regular season MVP's he will be considered the GOAT over Brady, imho.

:lmao 3 or 4. Stick to soccer.

[DAF86]

:lmao 3 or 4. Stick to soccer.

If Mahomes ends up as the all-time leading QB in yds and TDs (like he is on pace of doing). Wins around 4 regular season MVP's and 4 rings with 3 or 4 SB MVP's. He clearly overthrones Brady in most objective eyes.

[monosylab1k]

If Mahomes ends up as the all-time leading QB in yds and TDs (like he is on pace of doing). Wins around 4 regular season MVP's and 4 rings with 3 or 4 SB MVP's. He clearly overthrones Brady in most objective eyes.

3 isn’t even close to good enough. 4 gets him in the mix. 5 makes it debatable. And it will be almost impossible for him to get to 5. Stick to soccer.

[Millennial_Messiah]

3 isn’t even close to good enough. 4 gets him in the mix. 5 makes it debatable. And it will be almost impossible for him to get to 5. Stick to soccer.
Disagree, but it will partially depend on how long andy reid coaches, he looks like he could die of a heart attack at any point.

Maybe by that point the Eagles will be fed up with Doug Pederson (even though it's the front office's fault their roster has gotten crappy since their SB run) and he'll go back to the Chiefs if Reid dies or retires.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Mahomes by no means had some great game....he made several great passes in the 4th quarter to lead a comeback but prior to that had been complete dogshit. This wasn’t some signature GOAT-like performance.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Mahomes by no means had some great game....he made several great passes in the 4th quarter to lead a comeback but prior to that had been complete dogshit. This wasn’t some signature GOAT-like performance.

Brady's first 3 super bowl rings say toot-toot. And even #5 included a lousy pick six that essentially ended the game early if not for the most historic chokejob in sports history.

[Will Hunting]

Brady's first 3 super bowl rings say toot-toot. And even #5 included a lousy pick six that essentially ended the game early if not for the most historic chokejob in sports history.
Great so you admit their super bowl performances are a wash but are jerking Mahomes off while trying to downplay Brady. Bias confirmed.

[spurraider21]

:lol Mahomes by no means had some great game....he made several great passes in the 4th quarter to lead a comeback but prior to that had been complete dogshit. This wasn’t some signature GOAT-like performance.
wasn't as good as wilson's "damn good game" against the broncos tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

wasn't as good as wilson's "damn good game" against the broncos tbh

:lol the one that percy harvin and the defense dominated?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Rodgers - Kobe tbh

[SuperCam]

Rodgers - John Amaechi tbh

tbqh

[Millennial_Messiah]

tbqh

:lmao

[FrostKing]

Mahomes - Curry

[spurraider21]

Mahomes - Curry
thats literally in the OP