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apalisoc_9
01-30-2020, 12:25 AM
Kawhi, Lebron, AD, Luka, Harden are given.

That leaves 3 more Frontcourt, 2 backcourt and 2 wild cards.

The other three frontcourts will be

Jokic, Gobert, no Frontcourt player deserves but they need to pick one...most likely ingram

So the other 4 Backcourts since the wild cards are most likely going to be backcourts

Paul, Westbrook

That leaves two spots for

Morant, Booker, Lillard, Derozan...


Outside of stat padding..Derozan has outplayed all four of these players

Spurtacular
01-30-2020, 12:28 AM
IV is the Spurs all star going forward, tbh.

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-30-2020, 12:49 AM
He’s played great this season...especially of late.

kht
01-30-2020, 12:50 AM
It's hilarious how people think that Derozan won't get the max this summer... when you have guys that haven't even sniffed the All-Star game or All-NBA teams getting handed out max contracts...

ZeusWillJudge
01-30-2020, 12:55 AM
He absolutely does. I don't care much about the ASG, but his numbers lately are impressive.

ZeusWillJudge
01-30-2020, 12:57 AM
It's hilarious how people think that Derozan won't get the max this summer... when you have guys that haven't even sniffed the All-Star game or All-NBA teams getting handed out max contracts...


It wasn't that way in the distant past. You know... back when you only had 12-13 posts, and not 16 like you do now.

XDT76
01-30-2020, 12:58 AM
Kawhi, Lebron, AD, Luka, Harden are given.

That leaves 3 more Frontcourt, 2 backcourt and 2 wild cards.

The other three frontcourts will be

Jokic, Gobert, no Frontcourt player deserves but they need to pick one...most likely ingram

So the other 4 Backcourts since the wild cards are most likely going to be backcourts

Paul, Westbrook

That leaves two spots for

Morant, Booker, Lillard, Derozan...


Outside of stat padding..Derozan has outplayed all four of these players

DDR now plays mainly at front court SF and PF can't he take the other front court slot?

John B
01-30-2020, 04:27 AM
He’s been balling 20/90/50 the last 10 games, except the last 2 minutes of each game :lol
But seriously, yes he most certainly deserves it. Go Demar Go! :fro

tbdog
01-30-2020, 04:32 AM
DD has been ballin. People here just judge his last 2 mins.

tbdog
01-30-2020, 04:33 AM
It's hilarious how people think that Derozan won't get the max this summer... when you have guys that haven't even sniffed the All-Star game or All-NBA teams getting handed out max contracts...

Veteran max is different than 4th year max.

james evans
01-30-2020, 05:22 AM
He absolutely does. I don't care much about the ASG, but his numbers lately are impressive.
Which is a bad thing. That just means he’s getting maxed out and Popovich will be here another 5 years with him.

lmbebo
01-30-2020, 06:09 AM
won't get a spot

BRHornet45
01-30-2020, 06:18 AM
no lies were told in this post. DeMar has been ballin' his ass off .... give that man a spot on the All-Star squad

Rummpd
01-30-2020, 07:06 AM
Not happening sadly

cd021
01-30-2020, 07:10 AM
Think there is a decent chance.

Also, wouldn't hurt his trade value...

Genovaswitness
01-30-2020, 07:28 AM
I hope he gets traded

emanueldavidginobili
01-30-2020, 08:22 AM
We’ll find out tonight, All Star reserves being announced tonight on TNT.

lmbebo
01-30-2020, 09:02 AM
Spurs are a sub 500 team in a packed western conference. DDR has been relatively quiet on the national stage. I would be shocked if he made it.

KobesAchilles
01-30-2020, 09:03 AM
DeFrozen ain’t opting out of shit this year. We are stuck with him. ESPN just put out an article (one I’m too lazy to link) that the NBA cap is about to drop and several teams will be affected by this. That’s why nobody is trading anybody. Everyone is worried still from fucking Morey’s screwup

lmbebo
01-30-2020, 09:09 AM
DeFrozen ain’t opting out of shit this year. We are stuck with him. ESPN just put out an article (one I’m too lazy to link) that the NBA cap is about to drop and several teams will be affected by this. That’s why nobody is trading anybody. Everyone is worried still from fucking Morey’s screwup

Wouldn't call what Morey did a screw up, but had ramifications

look_at_g_shred
01-30-2020, 09:13 AM
Spurs are a sub 500 team in a packed western conference. DDR has been relatively quiet on the national stage. I would be shocked if he made it.
True. But coaches are the ones who pick the reserves iirc

lmbebo
01-30-2020, 10:47 AM
True. But coaches are the ones who pick the reserves iirc

team record matters a lot. Houston will prob have Harden and RW. LAL has Davis and Lebron. LAC will have quitter and maybe PG? Utah likely Mitchell and Gobert. OKC prob have CP3. Denver with Jokic. Dallas will have Luka. Maybe Morant sneaks in with memphis. Lillard has had a lot of support behind him. Maybe Murray in Denver gets added because of team record.

we have been a sub 500 team almost all year, Have been on the outside looking in at the play offs for most of the year. DDR is having a good year, esp of late. But its not enough to push him in.

KobesAchilles
01-30-2020, 10:54 AM
Wouldn't call what Morey did a screw up, but had ramifications
He cost his company millions of dollars. It was an epic screw up tbh. I mean I agree with his stance but unless he wants to become an activist, you keep that shit to yourself and off of your company twitter handle.

Genovaswitness
01-30-2020, 10:56 AM
Wouldn't call what Morey did a screw up, but had ramifications

he virtue signaled and ended up costing his team ,the league and its players millions of dollars. he deserved to be fired.

Russo21
01-30-2020, 11:03 AM
DDR has the 2nd highest FG% out of the top scorers in the league also, behind only Giannis which is impressive, especially for a wing. He's got plenty of competition for a spot though, hope he makes it.

Degoat
01-30-2020, 11:27 AM
Reserves are announced tonight right?

BillMc
01-30-2020, 11:31 AM
The real question is does ST still want to trade him now that he's playing so well? Earlier we were all opposed to re-signing him for a big price tag. Has this run changed anything?

BatManu20
01-30-2020, 11:32 AM
He does. He won’t get it though, sadly.

duncan2k5
01-30-2020, 11:42 AM
He doesn't deserve a spot... He is playing for a losing team... The guy isn't a spur... I really don't want him representing us

duncan2k5
01-30-2020, 11:43 AM
The real question is does ST still want to trade him now that he's playing so well? Earlier we were all opposed to re-signing him for a big price tag. Has this run changed anything?

What run? We are losing...that's what empty calorie players do

EasyMoney
01-30-2020, 12:00 PM
I want him gone. This stretch is just increasing his trade value.

Darius Bieber
01-30-2020, 12:09 PM
What's really impressive is that almost 100% of his points are either twos or FTs. Basically no threes. Unheard of in today's game.

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-30-2020, 12:30 PM
He doesn't deserve a spot... He is playing for a losing team... The guy isn't a spur... I really don't want him representing us

Players from losing teams make the all-star team all the time. You can bet money Lillard will be there and the Blazers are a bigger disappointment than the Spurs. And, last time I checked, DeRozan was wearing a Spurs uniform. He seems to be settling in nicely in his second season, which is usually the adjustment period for a new Spur.

Not sure why you hate on him so much. He's more of a Spur than your boy Kawhi.

Drom John
01-30-2020, 12:37 PM
A very nice run of games has turned a very bad 2019 into a so-so season.

ESPN small forwards by Plus Minus Wins because defense matters.
1 LeBron James
2 Kawhi Leonard
3 Jimmy Butler
4 Bojan Bogdanovich
5 Khris Middleton
6 Tobias Harris
7 Will Barton
8 Davis Bertans
9 Joe Harris
10 Brandon Ingram
11 Marcus Morris
12 Doug McDermott
13 Mikal Bridges
14 Brandon Clarke
15 Gordon Haywood
16 Justin Holiday
17 OG Anunoby
18 Isaac Bonga
19 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
20 Dorian Finney-Smith
21 T.J. Warren
22 Royce O'Neal
23 Trevor Ariza
24 Rudy Gay
25 Danuel House
26 Justise Winslow
27 DeMar DeRozan
28 Cody Martin

Oh, this is the ASG and they don't play defense.
ESPN Plus Minus Offense Rate Per Minute
1 LeBron James
2 Davis Bertans
3 Khris Middleton
4 Zion Williamson
5 Kawhi Leonard
6 Bojan Bogdanovic
7 Brandon Ingram
8 Brandon Clarke
9 Gordon Haywood
10 Doug McDermott
11 Moritz Wagner
12 James Ennis
13 Alfonzo McKinnie
14 Solomon Hill
15 Justin Holiday
16 Jake Layman
17 DeMar DeRozan
18 Rodney Hood

Ed Helicopter Jones
01-30-2020, 12:41 PM
A very nice run of games has turned a very bad 2019 into a so-so season.

ESPN small forwards by Plus Minus Wins because defense matters.
1 LeBron James
2 Kawhi Leonard
3 Jimmy Butler
4 Bojan Bogdanovich
5 Khris Middleton
6 Tobias Harris
7 Will Barton
8 Davis Bertans
9 Joe Harris
10 Brandon Ingram
11 Marcus Morris
12 Doug McDermott
13 Mikal Bridges
14 Brandon Clarke
15 Gordon Haywood
16 Justin Holiday
17 OG Anunoby
18 Isaac Bonga
19 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
20 Dorian Finney-Smith
21 T.J. Warren
22 Royce O'Neal
23 Trevor Ariza
24 Rudy Gay
25 Danuel House
26 Justise Winslow
27 DeMar DeRozan
28 Cody Martin

Oh, this is the ASG and they don't play defense.
ESPN Plus Minus Offense Rate Per Minute
1 LeBron James
2 Davis Bertans
3 Khris Middleton
4 Zion Williamson
5 Kawhi Leonard
6 Bojan Bogdanovic
7 Brandon Ingram
8 Brandon Clarke
9 Gordon Haywood
10 Doug McDermott
11 Moritz Wagner
12 James Ennis
13 Alfonzo McKinnie
14 Solomon Hill
15 Justin Holiday
16 Jake Layman
17 DeMar DeRozan
18 Rodney Hood

Maybe we can trade for Davis Bertans. Looks like a good player.

Mugen
01-30-2020, 01:01 PM
The real question is does ST still want to trade him now that he's playing so well? Earlier we were all opposed to re-signing him for a big price tag. Has this run changed anything?

Absolutely still want him traded, especially now that his value has gone up. The FO won't do anything of course. But he's had great stretches before, never when it mattered most. Even now, with him balling out of his mind, the Spurs aren't even a playoff team.

RC_Drunkford
01-30-2020, 02:01 PM
DeRozan has to be an All-Star reserve. He's playing great

gambit1990
01-30-2020, 02:49 PM
i’d take ja over demar. SGA too.

JuneJive
01-30-2020, 03:12 PM
Can he sustain this kind of play throughout his nextcontract?

That is the question.

Him stinking this year up would have been a sweet stor tho.

Maddog
01-30-2020, 04:01 PM
The real question is does ST still want to trade him now that he's playing so well? Earlier we were all opposed to re-signing him for a big price tag. Has this run changed anything?

I'm in favor of trading him as I don't see the Spurs Contending for the next few years and the timing doesn't work out for him and LMA. I think DDR probably can perform another year or two at this level, but I think it's time for a rebuild. Maybe not a complete "trust the process rebuild"


Players from losing teams make the all-star team all the time. You can bet money Lillard will be there and the Blazers are a bigger disappointment than the Spurs. And, last time I checked, DeRozan was wearing a Spurs uniform. He seems to be settling in nicely in his second season, which is usually the adjustment period for a new Spur.

Not sure why you hate on him so much. He's more of a Spur than your boy Kawhi.

You know, I think you are right. Better player, different story.
The Guy has played hard and tried and mostly has fit in.

Jules_Winnfield
01-30-2020, 04:14 PM
Kawhi, Lebron, AD, Luka, Harden are given.

That leaves 3 more Frontcourt, 2 backcourt and 2 wild cards.

The other three frontcourts will be

Jokic, Gobert, no Frontcourt player deserves but they need to pick one...most likely ingram

So the other 4 Backcourts since the wild cards are most likely going to be backcourts

Paul, Westbrook

That leaves two spots for

Morant, Booker, Lillard, Derozan...


Outside of stat padding..Derozan has outplayed all four of these players


mitchell

TD 21
01-30-2020, 05:10 PM
Kawhi, Lebron, AD, Luka, Harden are given.

That leaves 3 more Frontcourt, 2 backcourt and 2 wild cards.

The other three frontcourts will be

Jokic, Gobert, no Frontcourt player deserves but they need to pick one...most likely ingram

So the other 4 Backcourts since the wild cards are most likely going to be backcourts

Paul, Westbrook

That leaves two spots for

Morant, Booker, Lillard, Derozan...


Outside of stat padding..Derozan has outplayed all four of these players

He doesn't and he won't receive one. It's nice that they've been a positive with him and Aldridge on court since the latter migrated to 3, but it doesn't erase the majority of the season beforehand where they weren't. It also doesn't erase his poor defense and refusal to shoot 3s, which necessities or at least creates the perception that they need to resort to some of the absurd lineups we see in order to try to work around his limitations.

Jokic, Paul, Lillard, Gobert, are locks, leaving 6 for 3 spots: Westbrook, George, Towns, Ingram, Booker, Mitchell. Since politics always factor in, Westbrook, George and Mitchell, are probably slight favorites.

ZeusWillJudge
01-30-2020, 05:13 PM
A very nice run of games has turned a very bad 2019 into a so-so season.

ESPN small forwards by Plus Minus Wins because defense matters.
1 LeBron James
2 Kawhi Leonard
etc.



Re-run all that for the month of January. Then let's talk.

The question of this thread is whether he deserves an ASG invitation. The answer is yes.

What to do with DeMar long term is a different discussion.

SupremeGuy
01-30-2020, 06:15 PM
Contract year Demar has been very surprising. He does.

TimDunkem
01-30-2020, 06:19 PM
He doesn't.

TD 21
01-30-2020, 06:32 PM
Ingram beat out George, Towns, Booker (biggest snub), DeRozan.

Degoat
01-30-2020, 06:39 PM
Wow surprised Ingram got in kinda, he’s been good but still

gambit1990
01-30-2020, 06:45 PM
kyrie didn’t make it! :lmao really surprised tbh. not that i thought he deserved it. beautiful.

Kawhitstorm
01-30-2020, 06:47 PM
He doesn't deserve a spot... He is playing for a losing team... The guy isn't a spur... I really don't want him representing us

Dude is basically putting up Monta Ellis numbers on a lotto team:dramaquee

Kawhitstorm
01-30-2020, 06:49 PM
kyrie didn’t make it! :lmao really surprised tbh. not that i thought he deserved it. beautiful.

:smokin

FkLA
01-30-2020, 07:01 PM
The man got robbed. If he was playing in pretty much any other western conference market he'd have been voted in. I can see this contributing to him not wanting to resign.

I'd say that I hope he uses this as motivation going forward but theres not much more he can do. He's been playing out of his mind.

baseline bum
01-30-2020, 07:13 PM
DeFrozen ain’t opting out of shit this year. We are stuck with him. ESPN just put out an article (one I’m too lazy to link) that the NBA cap is about to drop and several teams will be affected by this. That’s why nobody is trading anybody. Everyone is worried still from fucking Morey’s screwup

It's only $1 million difference between the original projected cap. The luxury tax being lower than projected will be a bitch for teams trying operate right below it, but those aren't teams that would be in the market to sign DeRozan anyways.

cd021
01-30-2020, 07:16 PM
DeRozan didn't make it smh

baseline bum
01-30-2020, 07:19 PM
DeRozan didn't make it smh

Damn and he was doing so much to make this a season to remember.

emanueldavidginobili
01-30-2020, 07:19 PM
21-26 didn’t help.

FkLA
01-30-2020, 07:29 PM
https://twitter.com/TheDrewShow_/status/1223028920309686282

I think that this food truck buy and partime local sports radio hack is saying that the Spurs Fans are to blame for him not getting on the team?

Also, read the room. Is he saying to a fan base he perceives as "not appreciating Demar enough"(or at all?) that the consequence is the player they don't appreciate(ergo don't like or want) will no longer be on the team of that fan base?

Only in SA would a "Media guy" try to GUILT its fan base into doing something.

https://twitter.com/saradioboy/status/1218254367029108737

He makes a decent SAND-WEEECH do.

Too many of dose and yews be in da hospital with gettin a bypass/or sting for clogged arteries.

That guy is an idiot. He always says controversial shit about local teams to get a rise out of fans. He does the same with UTSA football. It's the only way for him to stay relevant since nobody gives a shit about him enough for a cookie cutter "DeRozan got robbed" tweet to get any responses.

HarlemHeat37
01-30-2020, 07:32 PM
DeRozan and Chris Paul both deserved it over Ingram. Booker is probably an even bigger snub, though

baseline bum
01-30-2020, 07:34 PM
DeRozan and Chris Paul both deserved it over Ingram.

Damn, CP3 not getting in is ridiculous.

FkLA
01-30-2020, 07:35 PM
CP3 was voted in, tbh.

timtonymanu
01-30-2020, 07:46 PM
Demar was deserving but the spurs record is tragic. When was the last time the Spurs weren’t represented in an all star game, tbh? Feels like forever.

bic50
01-30-2020, 07:55 PM
I’m actually surprised demar didn’t make it

apalisoc_9
01-30-2020, 08:04 PM
lol Demar has been carrying this scrub team.

Fags still think its all pop :lmao

Genovaswitness
01-30-2020, 09:24 PM
I’m glad pussy ass demar didn’t get the ASG nod. Team is like the 10th seed :lmao

OMG HE HAD A 30 POINT GAME OMG :lmao :lmao :lmao

fuck demar

apalisoc_9
01-30-2020, 09:31 PM
Ingram beat out George, Towns, Booker (biggest snub), DeRozan.

He beat out booker and derozan? lol thats crazy.

SpursDynasty85
01-30-2020, 09:34 PM
DeRozan didn't make it smh

Voting was about a week or two too early.

crc21209
01-30-2020, 09:36 PM
Derozan deserved to be in over Ingram tbh. Better team record. I mean...Lillard got in...so wtf...

ZeusWillJudge
01-30-2020, 10:24 PM
3P%. New NBA. /Story

MultiTroll
01-30-2020, 10:38 PM
Are you guys really surprised?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1935857-the-most-undeserving-nba-all-star-starters-of-all-time#slide0

slick'81
01-30-2020, 11:04 PM
Poor demar

phxspurfan
01-31-2020, 03:27 AM
ASG for the West always full of snubs. Yet in the East fucking Bam Adebayo gets in

Truth4sale$
01-31-2020, 08:28 AM
DeRozan failure to get is a result of a few things-mostly fan influence, which I mean is a popularity contest of excitement. DeRozan is not throwing down hard jams, or game winning 3pt shots. He is not making ESPN highlights. Then you add the small market of San Antonio, and lack of national TV games, and the final nail is a losing record. Yet, I do believe he deserved it over Damian Liliard.

SuperCam
01-31-2020, 09:26 AM
He beat out booker and derozan? lol thats crazy.

No he didn't, he was competing against front-court players, not guards. Spur fans on this thread showing their ignorance outside of spur topics

spurspl
01-31-2020, 10:53 AM
no, he doesnt. But u know who does and and did it and we could have him?? ingram

Genovaswitness
01-31-2020, 11:05 AM
DeRozan failure to get is a result of a few things-mostly fan influence, which I mean is a popularity contest of excitement. DeRozan is not throwing down hard jams, or game winning 3pt shots. He is not making ESPN highlights. Then you add the small market of San Antonio, and lack of national TV games, and the final nail is a losing record. Yet, I do believe he deserved it over Damian Liliard.

SA doesn't like him either. he'll never be welcomed here

R. DeMurre
01-31-2020, 11:46 AM
His RPM is -0.37, good for 255th in the league. He's 13th in +/- on his own team...

He's definitely a very strange case from any advanced stats standpoint. Why doesn't him being on floor translate to better results for his team? You can't say the same about Giannis, Lebron, Kawhi, etc... It's pretty conclusive that their teams are not as good when those stars are off the floor, but for some reason it just doesn't work that was with DeRozan.

Genovaswitness
01-31-2020, 11:49 AM
His RPM is -0.37, good for 255th in the league. He's 13th in +/- on his own team...

He's definitely a very strange case from any advanced stats standpoint. Why doesn't him being on floor translate to better results for his team? You can't say the same about Giannis, Lebron, Kawhi, etc... It's pretty conclusive that their teams are not as good when those stars are off the floor, but for some reason it just doesn't work that was with DeRozan.


b-but he scored 30 points a few times!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

look_at_g_shred
01-31-2020, 11:56 AM
b-but he scored 30 points a few times!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
I want him off the team too but, you realize this team will still suck once he's gone? You truly sound like kawhi really hurt you and you are taking out your anger on DDR. Its the FO who you should really be mad at for not being competent enough to get a better package.

Genovaswitness
01-31-2020, 11:59 AM
I want him off the team too but, you realize this team will still suck once he's gone? You truly sound like kawhi really hurt you and you are taking out your anger on DDR. Its the FO who you should really be mad at for not being competent enough to get a better package.

not like the team isn't terrible now.

I'm well aware of the FO's ineptitude and inability to keep a generational talent like kawhi. demar is a piece of shit. after not being able to satisfy kawhi the team rejected better deals out there to get a known loser choker chucker just to spite kawhi and send him to siberia. what does kawhi do? come home with that LOB...like he's going to do this year.

look_at_g_shred
01-31-2020, 12:53 PM
not like the team isn't terrible now.

I'm well aware of the FO's ineptitude and inability to keep a generational talent like kawhi. demar is a piece of shit. after not being able to satisfy kawhi the team rejected better deals out there to get a known loser choker chucker just to spite kawhi and send him to siberia. what does kawhi do? come home with that LOB...like he's going to do this year.
But yet again. Not DDR's fault. Yeah the dude sucks and is a career loser, but lets be infuriated with the people who brought him here.

Genovaswitness
01-31-2020, 01:35 PM
But yet again. Not DDR's fault. Yeah the dude sucks and is a career loser, but lets be infuriated with the people who brought him here.

it’s two sides of the same shitty coin tbh

FkLA
01-31-2020, 01:39 PM
25+/6/6 on 55% shooting. Shouldering most of the playmaking duties. Not the best defensive player out there but he's also not a complete liability like a Brent/Marco. I'd be interested to see what his RPM and +/- are just during this run he's been on since mid December. Theres no way it's bad and if it is its bullshit. Earlier in his career, when he was less efficient and hadn't developed his playmaking, I can see how his style wouldn't be conducive to winning basketball. Shit, even the way he started off the season was kind of gross. But the way he's been playing lately that's a Top 20, arguably Top 15 guy, imo.

If that's the guy he's grown into the Spurs would be fools to not keep him around. He's not LeBron, Nephew, or Giannis but he's still really really good, tbh.


No he didn't, he was competing against front-court players, not guards. Spur fans on this thread showing their ignorance outside of spur topics

Last two spots are wildcards. Positions dont matter.

Kobe'sAchilles
01-31-2020, 01:45 PM
I just don't see how Ingram made it tbh. Booker or Demar are way above Ingram. Part of me wonders if they got him in their bc they felt bad about the whole AD scenario and him leaving. Voting in Ingram was the coaches way of apologizing to Gentry for the shitshow he had to endure.

DPG21920
01-31-2020, 02:09 PM
I just don't see how Ingram made it tbh. Booker or Demar are way above Ingram. Part of me wonders if they got him in their bc they felt bad about the whole AD scenario and him leaving. Voting in Ingram was the coaches way of apologizing to Gentry for the shitshow he had to endure.

Ingram has made a legit leap and even without Zion they are right there with the Spurs record wise. That is why. Pelicans were not expected to be good and SA was and BI kept pace with the Spurs.

DPG21920
01-31-2020, 02:11 PM
25+/6/6 on 55% shooting. Shouldering most of the playmaking duties. Not the best defensive player out there but he's also not a complete liability like a Brent/Marco. I'd be interested to see what his RPM and +/- are just during this run he's been on since mid December. Theres no way it's bad and if it is its bullshit. Earlier in his career, when he was less efficient and hadn't developed his playmaking, I can see how his style wouldn't be conducive to winning basketball. Shit, even the way he started off the season was kind of gross. But the way he's been playing lately that's a Top 20, arguably Top 15 guy, imo.

If that's the guy he's grown into the Spurs would be fools to not keep him around. He's not LeBron, Nephew, or Giannis but he's still really really good, tbh.



Last two spots are wildcards. Positions dont matter.

We have an entire careers worth of data showing DeRozan just isn’t a net + player. He’s really good, but for reasons that are tough to articulate he does not grade out well.

It’s not that the numbers are bad; he’s the outlier here that stands out consistently. All other stars the numbers back up the eye test. But not DeRozan.

Even with his best stretch and taking out the first 20 games, with him playing great SA is a .500 team. That’s it. But for AS voting, the season isn’t one month long. He was not playing all that well for the first 20 games .

Jules_Winnfield
01-31-2020, 02:28 PM
what is wrong with you peoples...

"NBA coaches vote for the reserves for their respective conferences, none of which can be players on their own team. Each coach selects two guards, three frontcourt players and two wild cards, with each selected player ranked in order of preference within each category."

Paul, Lillard

Jokic, Gobert, Ingram

Mitchell, Westbrook


case closed.

bitchboi booker crying :lmao

Jules_Winnfield
01-31-2020, 02:35 PM
No he didn't, he was competing against front-court players, not guards. Spur fans on this thread showing their ignorance outside of spur topics

https://media.giphy.com/media/jQ9wfxmUPmGMU/giphy.gif

we stay winning :elephant

Kobe'sAchilles
01-31-2020, 02:39 PM
Ingram has made a legit leap and even without Zion they are right there with the Spurs record wise. That is why. Pelicans were not expected to be good and SA was and BI kept pace with the Spurs.
Bro the Pelicans STILL aren't any good :lol Keeping on pace with the Spurs? They've been behind us in the standings for over 2 months. They're the 12th seed in a very shitty western conference. And in his leap year he is putting up worse numbers than Booker and has a worse record too. Atleast Demar has his shitty coached team in contention for a playoff spot. Ingram has to win another 5 straight games in order to even be in the conversation. foh defending Ingram

Jules_Winnfield
01-31-2020, 02:44 PM
Bro the Pelicans STILL aren't any good :lol Keeping on pace with the Spurs? They've been behind us in the standings for over 2 months. They're the 12th seed in a very shitty western conference. And in his leap year he is putting up worse numbers than Booker and has a worse record too. Atleast Demar has his shitty coached team in contention for a playoff spot. Ingram has to win another 5 straight games in order to even be in the conversation. foh defending Ingram


hey man

derozan and booker are guards

ingraham is a frontcourt player

it should be george instead of ingraham, but he missed too many games

peace

Kobe'sAchilles
01-31-2020, 03:08 PM
Ingram has made a legit leap and even without Zion they are right there with the Spurs record wise. That is why. Pelicans were not expected to be good and SA was and BI kept pace with the Spurs.<br>
Bro the Pelicans STILL aren't any good :lol Keeping on pace with the Spurs? They've been behind us in the standings for over 2 months. They're the 12th seed in a very shitty western conference. And in his leap year he is putting up worse numbers than Booker and has a worse record too. Atleast Demar has his shitty coached team in contention for a playoff spot. Ingram has to win another 5 straight games in order to even be in the conversation. foh defending Ingram

Kobe'sAchilles
01-31-2020, 03:08 PM
hey man

derozan and booker are guards

ingraham is a frontcourt player

it should be george instead of ingraham, but he missed too many games

peace

Wasn't he a WC pick?

apalisoc_9
01-31-2020, 03:12 PM
what is wrong with you peoples...

"NBA coaches vote for the reserves for their respective conferences, none of which can be players on their own team. Each coach selects two guards, three frontcourt players and two wild cards, with each selected player ranked in order of preference within each category."

Paul, Lillard

Jokic, Gobert, Ingram

Mitchell, Westbrook


case closed.

bitchboi booker crying :lmao

Both booker and Derozan deserved it over Lolard.

DPG21920
01-31-2020, 03:24 PM
Bro the Pelicans STILL aren't any good :lol Keeping on pace with the Spurs? They've been behind us in the standings for over 2 months. They're the 12th seed in a very shitty western conference. And in his leap year he is putting up worse numbers than Booker and has a worse record too. Atleast Demar has his shitty coached team in contention for a playoff spot. Ingram has to win another 5 straight games in order to even be in the conversation. foh defending Ingram

Lol NO is 2.5 games back of SA. That is keeping pace. That is with Zion out the entire year. SA been the healthiest team all year and still cant separate from NO.

SA is as far back from the 8th seed as NO is from SA. So if SA is in contention and NO is the same distance from SA as SA is from 8th, what are you trying to say?

Booker should have gotten in over BI. I”m saying that BI over DeRozan isn’t some travesty when you compare expectations, health and standings.

Jules_Winnfield
01-31-2020, 03:30 PM
Wasn't he a WC pick?

2 guards, 3 frouncourt players, 2 wild cards

ingram being a wild card doesn't make no sense

Kobe'sAchilles
01-31-2020, 03:36 PM
Lol NO is 2.5 games back of SA. That is keeping pace. That is with Zion out the entire year. SA been the healthiest team all year and still cant separate from NO.

SA is as far back from the 8th seed as NO is from SA. So if SA is in contention and NO is the same distance from SA as SA is from 8th, what are you trying to say?

Booker should have gotten in over BI. I”m saying that BI over DeRozan isn’t some travesty when you compare expectations, health and standings.
Spurs are 2.5 back from 8th seed. Pels are 5 games back NOW but they weren't once Zion returned. Also Pels won 2 straight games with Zion back while Spurs lost 2 outta 3 (all while Zion is back). The Pels were the 13th seed with Brandon Ingram running the show. Recently too. Now they're the 12th seed. They were NEVER in contention for the 8th seed with Ingram only. Spurs were the 8th seed recently and are currently the 9th seed. That's difference now.

DeRozan had a streak going that only MJ had. I'm not really even defending Demar here bc I don't think he deserved a nod either. Imo both Booker and Ja deserved it more than DDR. BUT nowhere on planet earth should Ingram had made the game.

Jules_Winnfield
01-31-2020, 03:43 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3ntdcv.jpg

Kobe'sAchilles
01-31-2020, 03:49 PM
2 guards, 3 frouncourt players, 2 wild cards

ingram being a wild card doesn't make no sense
Ah so Paul and Westbrook were the WC. makes sense I guess. Should've replaced Ingram with Zion tbh. Already a better player than Ingram and unlike his teammate, his stats aren't empty. I know every year there's an empty calorie guy who makes the team. It just angers me for some reason when a buncha losers make the team. I'm dumb I know, but I remember being a kid and poking out the little fucking circles with a pencil on that cardboard paper ballot for Sean Elliott and David Robinson and turning them into the arena to submit my vote. And now POS like Ingram and Trae run away from contact Young get into the game? By twitter? And yes I know it's a meaningless game, but it wasn't meaningless to 8 year old Kobe'sAchilles :lol

TD 21
01-31-2020, 04:49 PM
lol Demar has been carrying this scrub team.

Fags still think its all pop :lmao

This is clearly shtick because you're knowledgeable enough to know that he didn't deserve it.

Outside of Westbrook predictably making it and doing so at Booker's expense, they got it right. You could argue Brown over Tatum, but that's splitting hairs.

RC_Drunkford
01-31-2020, 05:05 PM
Bro the Pelicans STILL aren't any good :lol Keeping on pace with the Spurs? They've been behind us in the standings for over 2 months. They're the 12th seed in a very shitty western conference. And in his leap year he is putting up worse numbers than Booker and has a worse record too. Atleast Demar has his shitty coached team in contention for a playoff spot. Ingram has to win another 5 straight games in order to even be in the conversation. foh defending Ingram

That's not how media and coaches view it though. They think the Spurs are 9th cause of Pop's great coaching and otherwise they would be 14th when in reality Pop cost them about 10 wins and they would be 6th if they had anybody else coach

Arcadian
01-31-2020, 05:08 PM
DeRozan failure to get is a result of a few things-mostly fan influence, which I mean is a popularity contest of excitement.
Reserves are voted by coaches.


DeRozan is not throwing down hard jams, or game winning 3pt shots. He is not making ESPN highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BodyQYNqzPM

SuperCam
01-31-2020, 05:37 PM
hey man

derozan and booker are guards

ingraham is a frontcourt player

it should be george instead of ingraham, but he missed too many games

peace

spur fan never know shit about the league outside of spur, tbh :lol


DeFrozan wasn't even the runner up as a WC reserve :lmao

duncan2k5
01-31-2020, 06:57 PM
Players from losing teams make the all-star team all the time. You can bet money Lillard will be there and the Blazers are a bigger disappointment than the Spurs. And, last time I checked, DeRozan was wearing a Spurs uniform. He seems to be settling in nicely in his second season, which is usually the adjustment period for a new Spur.

Not sure why you hate on him so much. He's more of a Spur than your boy Kawhi.

Kawhi helped us win a ring...DeMar got bounced in the first round...quit the disrespect...u can hate him now,but to say DDR is more of a spur because he got bounced in the 1st round is silly and blasphemous

duncan2k5
01-31-2020, 07:00 PM
The problem with DeMar is that his style of play is not one that can have another star with him and succeed because he can't play off anyone... He doesn't move without the ball and he can't shoot threes... He is destined to put up good numbers on teams that won't go anywhere...

Genovaswitness
01-31-2020, 07:15 PM
The problem with DeMar is that his style of play is not one that can have another star with him and succeed because he can't play off anyone... He doesn't move without the ball and he can't shoot threes... He is destined to put up good numbers on teams that won't go anywhere...

hes a bigger monta ellis tbh

Collins21
01-31-2020, 08:08 PM
Kawhi helped us win a ring...DeMar got bounced in the first round...quit the disrespect...u can hate him now,but to say DDR is more of a spur because he got bounced in the 1st round is silly and blasphemous

I got you now you little faggot. Did Kawhi get bounced in the 1st round as the best player on the Spurs? Sure did and not only did they get. bounced in the 1st round they were bounced because he sucked the last 3 games of that series against the Clippers.

Genovaswitness
01-31-2020, 08:33 PM
I got you now you little faggot. Did Kawhi get bounced in the 1st round as the best player on the Spurs? Sure did and not only did they get. bounced in the 1st round they were bounced because he sucked the last 3 games of that series against the Clippers.

kawhi Leonard: 2x fMVP. owns fake stars and manufactured megateams

demar DeRozan: mental health “champion,” cries in jack in the box parking lots, eternally skullfucked by lebum

Collins21
01-31-2020, 08:36 PM
kawhi Leonard: 2x fMVP. owns fake stars and manufactured megateams

demar DeRozan: mental health “champion,” cries in jack in the box parking lots, eternally skullfucked by lebum

Ok DeMar was skullfucked by Lebron Kawhi was skullfucked by Matt Barnes and Andre Roberson.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
01-31-2020, 08:51 PM
He cost his company millions of dollars. It was an epic screw up tbh. I mean I agree with his stance but unless he wants to become an activist, you keep that shit to yourself and off of your company twitter handle.It was done to keep Cuban from running for president.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
01-31-2020, 08:55 PM
Absolutely still want him traded, especially now that his value has gone up. The FO won't do anything of course. But he's had great stretches before, never when it mattered most. Even now, with him balling out of his mind, the Spurs aren't even a playoff team.lol, you want him traded because you think Walker can do what he does.

duncan2k5
01-31-2020, 09:09 PM
I want him off the team too but, you realize this team will still suck once he's gone? You truly sound like kawhi really hurt you and you are taking out your anger on DDR. Its the FO who you should really be mad at for not being competent enough to get a better package.

I actually think we get better once he leaves

duncan2k5
01-31-2020, 09:18 PM
I got you now you little faggot. Did Kawhi get bounced in the 1st round as the best player on the Spurs? Sure did and not only did they get. bounced in the 1st round they were bounced because he sucked the last 3 games of that series against the Clippers.

Ppl who actually understand basketball knows the Spurs lost due to Pop not being able to guard the pick and roll...

Also Kawhi wasn't a star... He was a young player learning how to lead a team... DDR is in his prime getting bounced out the first round and benched in game 7s

Prime BEEF
01-31-2020, 09:20 PM
hes a bigger monta ellis tbh
Perfect

Collins21
01-31-2020, 09:36 PM
Ppl who actually understand basketball knows the Spurs lost due to Pop not being able to guard the pick and roll...

Also Kawhi wasn't a star... He was a young player learning how to lead a team... DDR is in his prime getting bounced out the first round and benched in game 7s

No No No. Pop not being able to guard the pick and roll was just a minor reason for that loss. Kawhi couldn't score on Matt Barnes those last three games period!!!!!! Not to mention that if Pop would have played Marco and Patty Less last year they would have beat the Nuggets easily. See how that excuse shit works.