2020 Dem primaries discussion thread

[Reck]

Well people it all starts today.

Iowa Caucus is today so who yall got? My top 3

Bernie
Biden
Warren

Hard seeing Bernie losing Iowa or New Hampshire for that matter.

[Spurtacular]

Well people it all starts today.

Iowa Caucus is today so who yall got? My top 3

Bernie
Biden
Warren

Hard seeing Bernie losing Iowa or New Hampshire for that matter.

:lmao Tranny flipping.

[Reck]

:lmao Tranny flipping.

You can’t read polls.

Flipping to whom? I’m not even sure who I’m gonna vote for, derp. Definitely not wasting my time voting in the NY primary. But will vote for whoever gets the nomination.

[Will Hunting]

You can’t read polls.

Flipping to whom? I’m not even sure who I’m gonna vote for, derp. Definitely not wasting my time voting in the NY primary. But will vote for whoever gets the nomination.
Why wouldn’t you vote in the NY primary? I think that one’s going to be pretty close.

[Thread]

Would love to see Biden in the 3rd spot tonite. The reaction by CNN/Media would be a treat. That's why CNN wouldn't show their final poll last week. Destroyed it. & why MSM has been beating on Warren heel & toe...trying desperately to preserve that 2nd spot for Joe. If he's 3rd tonite, he's going to lose Hampshire. MSM can't face that. It'd be Hillary time at that point.

[boutons_deux]

Well people it all starts today.

Iowa Caucus is today so who yall got? My top 3

Bernie
Biden
Warren

Hard seeing Bernie losing Iowa or New Hampshire for that matter.

poll sees Bernie taking IA and NH, but out-of-touch, touchy Joe way ahead nationally

[SnakeBoy]

Bernie wins them all or it's rigged

[DMC]

Would love to see Biden in the 3rd spot tonite. The reaction by CNN/Media would be a treat. That's why CNN wouldn't show their final poll last week. Destroyed it. & why MSM has been beating on Warren heel & toe...trying desperately to preserve that 2nd spot for Joe. If he's 3rd tonite, he's going to lose Hampshire. MSM can't face that. It'd be Hillary time at that point.

https://media.giphy.com/media/vRgQWnd7CW0PS/giphy.gif

[boutons_deux]

Klobuchar asked to suspend campaign after probe suggests she may have put innocent teen in jail (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/1/1915203/-Klobuchar-asked-to-suspend-campaign-after-probe-suggests-she-may-have-put-innocent-teen-in-jail)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/1/1915203/-Klobuchar-asked-to-suspend-campaign-after-probe-suggests-she-may-have-put-innocent-teen-in-jail?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/1/1915203/-Klobuchar-asked-to-suspend-campaign-after-probe-suggests-she-may-have-put-innocent-teen-in-jail?detail=emaildkre)

[spurraider21]

Klobuchar asked to suspend campaign after probe suggests she may have put innocent teen in jail (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/1/1915203/-Klobuchar-asked-to-suspend-campaign-after-probe-suggests-she-may-have-put-innocent-teen-in-jail)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/1/1915203/-Klobuchar-asked-to-suspend-campaign-after-probe-suggests-she-may-have-put-innocent-teen-in-jail?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/1/1915203/-Klobuchar-asked-to-suspend-campaign-after-probe-suggests-she-may-have-put-innocent-teen-in-jail?detail=emaildkre)
:lol "asked"... non-story

unless kamala harris revives her campaign and makes it to the next debate, and demands a public apology, this isnt going to be a story

[Proxy]

Bernie
Pete
Warren
Biden

[boutons_deux]

primaries, "debates", voting? total dumbed down bullshit-for-media-$Bs for dumbed America

why fucking Iowa, anyway? IA caucuses are not voting, and 3M, 1% of USA, makes or breaks a candidate? what bullshit

[Trill Clinton]

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[boutons_deux]

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in 2020, Repugs plans to cut Medicare, Medicaid, SS, all public assistance, and privatize USPS

[spurraider21]

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but how old are the grandkids? VOTER FRAUD

[Reck]

Why wouldn’t you vote in the NY primary? I think that one’s going to be pretty close.

It seems like no matter what the person I want to win never wins because people here vote so disproportionately. I remember hearing the same thing in 2016 that Bernie was gonna make it close. He got slaughtered per par.

Its pretty much the same on election night but I go out and vote just to say I did. I wish we were more competitive.

[koriwhat]

It seems like no matter what the person I want to win never wins because people here vote so disproportionately. I remember hearing the same thing in 2016 that Bernie was gonna make it close. He got slaughtered per par.

Its pretty much the same on election night but I go out and vote just to say I did. I wish we were more competitive.

how'd he get slaughtered though? YOUR OWN PARTY RIGGED IT AGAINST HIM AND YOU STILL SUPPORT THAT HACK OF A PARTY. you truly are the dipshit retard i claim you to be. :tu

[Reck]

how'd he get slaughtered though? YOUR OWN PARTY RIGGED IT AGAINST HIM AND YOU STILL SUPPORT THAT HACK OF A PARTY. you truly are the dipshit retard i claim you to be. :tu

Low IQ who cant discern the actual definition.

[Proxy]

you've got to be purposefully not paying attention if you think Bernie's 2016 run is on repeat. He's at an immensely better spot this time around

[Spurtacular]

You can’t read polls.

Flipping to whom? I’m not even sure who I’m gonna vote for, derp. Definitely not wasting my time voting in the NY primary. But will vote for whoever gets the nomination.

You said "my top three," tranny. You haven't been in the Bernie column before.

[Reck]

You said "my top three," tranny. You haven't been in the Bernie column before.

Your reading comprehension sucks.

My top 3 for Iowa. :lol

It has been established Bernie will probably win the first 2, no contest.

[Spurtacular]

Your reading comprehension sucks.

My top 3 for Iowa. :lol

It has been established Bernie will probably win the first 2, no contest.

So, you're in the Bernie column just for a bit cos he's leading.

Tranny logic.

[spurraider21]

So, you're in the Bernie column just for a bit cos he's leading.

Tranny logic.
my understanding was that he was making his prediction, not stating who he is pulling for

could be wrong

[Spurtacular]

my understanding was that he was making his prediction, not stating who he is pulling for

could be wrong

Alright. I accept that.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao derp

[Spurtacular]

:lmao derp

:lmao AnkleHumper

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao AnkleHumperso defensive

[Reck]

my understanding was that he was making his prediction, not stating who he is pulling for

could be wrong

Pretty much as stated in my OP. Derp always needs at least 5 posts of explainers done for him.

[Reck]

First satelite caucus voted and there was just 1 Biden supporter. :lol

Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, Yang and Klobuchar all made at least 1%.

[spurraider21]

:lol

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[spurraider21]

First satelite caucus voted and there was just 1 Biden supporter. :lol

Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, Yang and Klobuchar all made at least 1%.
those satellite caucuses can be tiny though :lol.. how many people were there altogether?

[Reck]

those satellite caucuses can be tiny though :lol.. how many people were there altogether?

They didn't say but gave an estimate of how much the Bernie side had which was a rough estimate of 70 people. Overall there were small pockets peppered throughout so it's probably less than 200 overall.

[Proxy]

:lol

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Tom the "strategist"

[spurraider21]

if only "this woman" didnt backtrack on her boldest policy position before she even faced any opposition from the opposing party, and then proceed to leak/stage a conflict

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Let's go Bernie!!!

[Reck]

if only "this woman" didnt backtrack on her boldest policy position before she even faced any opposition from the opposing party, and then proceed to leak/stage a conflict

Warren is looking good.

Biden will be announcing his third failed campaign in about 2 hours. He's been out caucus by Yang. :lol

[spurraider21]

Warren is looking good.

Biden will be announcing his third failed campaign in about 2 hours. He's been out caucus by Yang. :lol
eh, IA and NH are pretty small when it comes to delegate count, so i wouldnt put that much stock in it. its really just about getting some press between now and super tuesday tbh

pretty sure bernie carried the delegate lead after IA and NH in 2016 too (though clinton did win iowa by a hair)

[Reck]

Warren just won a site caucus Bernie won last time.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1224519023334961159

https://mobile.twitter.com/KBrassenstein/status/1224525225737576450

:rollin

[Reck]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1224519023334961159

https://mobile.twitter.com/KBrassenstein/status/1224525225737576450

:rollin

So you're laughing at Trump's own stupidity then? No one here supports Biden that I am aware of.

:lmao panicking about Biden, breaking the law, getting impeached for nothing.

[Th'Pusher]

So you're laughing at Trump's own stupidity then? No one here supports Biden that I am aware of.

:lmao panicking about Biden, breaking the law, getting impeached for nothing.

D’ Mac supports Biden.

[DMC]

those satellite caucuses can be tiny though :lol.. how many people were there altogether?

5

[DMC]

D’ Mac supports Biden.

Th'Pusher

But I'm undecided as I said. Booty Judge isn't bad. (lol who gave him that knick?)

[Th'Pusher]

Th'Pusher

But I'm undecided as I said. Booty Judge isn't bad. (lol who gave him that knick?)

Oh. I didn’t realize you were undecided now. So it’s between Biden and Mayor Pete?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Butty is winning now?

[DarrinS]

Going about as well as expected. :lmao

[Reck]

Butty is winning now?

No one knows what's going on. Dems are incompetent.

Probably because they have 80 year old operating these newer apps to process the votes.

[Isitjustme?]

Turnout is real low lol

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[Pelicans78]

Wonder if they fat whale Donna Brazile is still running the DNC.

[Reck]

Turnout is real low lol

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:lol Hillary getting out the vote in higher volumes than this bunch.

[DMC]

Not a good look so far.

[DMC]

Oh. I didn’t realize you were undecided now. So it’s between Biden and Mayor Pete?

So far. I am keeping my options on the table for at least those two.

[DMC]

Wonder if they fat whale Donna Brazile is still running the DNC.

That's probably D'Nack

[Isitjustme?]

:lol Hillary getting out the vote in higher volumes than this bunch.
Look at 2008, Obama was a beast lol

[DMC]

Look at 2008, Obama was a beast lol

I knew when Obama won Senatorial race he was a beast. People were very excited about him. I don't think any of these people get others excited, not much. They're so vanilla. Bernie is the only wild card as far as policy goes, but he looks 100 years old and only excites his own base (like Ron Paul did). Not many exciting people to run for office these days. Oprah would have a shot.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Maybe Hillary gets in the race now? IA/NH are barely any delegates

[Spurtacular]

Klobuchar speaking despite no results. Smart; it's probably the only way she'll get TV time is to get in there first.

[Reck]

What a terrible, anti climatic night.

Everyone out there giving speeches like they won. And thanks to this massive fuck up, they can claim they won having had no results to show for it.

[Spurtacular]

I knew when Obama won Senatorial race he was a beast. People were very excited about him. I don't think any of these people get others excited, not much. They're so vanilla. Bernie is the only wild card as far as policy goes, but he looks 100 years old and only excites his own base (like Ron Paul did). Not many exciting people to run for office these days. Oprah would have a shot.

That whore doesn't want to take the pay cut.

[spurraider21]

What a terrible, anti climatic night.

Everyone out there giving speeches like they won. And thanks to this massive fuck up, they can claim they won having had no results to show for it.
conspiracy theorists will have a field day with this tbh :lol... particularly with biden performing poorly from the limited results we have

[Spurtacular]

System Dems got their hands caught in the cookie jar. Now they're scrambling behind the scenes. :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Damn Russians again!

[spurraider21]

usually the iowa victory speech is a big moment. whoever ends up being declared the winner sorta loses that moment

[ChumpDumper]

conspiracy theorists will have a field day with this tbh :lol... particularly with biden performing poorly from the limited results we have


System Dems got their hands caught in the cookie jar. Now they're scrambling behind the scenes. :lol:lmao like clockwork

[Proxy]

Biden didn't even make first cut in des moines

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/maxblumenthal/status/1224558878039429120?s=21

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/maxblumenthal/status/1224558878039429120?s=21
It was though. Biden tanking is Bloomberg’s door in. Of course, we have very little data but just going by the sample we do have

[spurraider21]

But hey if this trainwreck gets us one step closer over to getting rid of this ridiculous Iowa-first primary system it’s worth it

[DMX7]

What a cluster this is right now. But Iowa is Iowa. There is a long way to go.

[Spurtacular]

usually the iowa victory speech is a big moment. whoever ends up being declared the winner sorta loses that moment

I guess we know Bernie won, then.

:lol DNC

[DMX7]

The whole caucus format is interesting but it's actually pretty awful.

[DMC]

I guess we know Bernie won, then.

:lol DNC

That's what I thought as well.

[Reck]

buttigieg thinks he's won. :lol

[DMC]

The whole caucus format is interesting but it's actually pretty awful.

Cock Us

[spurraider21]

buttigieg thinks he's won. :lol
i think he's being somewhat savvy.

he's lying through his teeth, he knows that its uncertain (and he's not even leading from the limited results we have)... but iowa is never really about game-changing delegate numbers, its about momentum/narratives/media. and he's trying to use it to his advantage

[spurraider21]

the NYT live tracker has now removed the initial reports from the AP from their page. likely in an effort to downplay the narrative of foul play

[Reck]

i think he's being somewhat savvy.

he's lying through his teeth, he knows that its uncertain (and he's not even leading from the limited results we have)... but iowa is never really about game-changing delegate numbers, its about momentum/narratives/media. and he's trying to use it to his advantage

Confidence is a good thing to have but to me, this was off putting.

Even Bernie who is actually the person most likely to have won this didn't say he won it flat out.

[spurraider21]

Confidence is a good thing to have but to me, this was off putting.

Even Bernie who is actually the person most likely to have won this didn't say he won it flat out.
i feel you. i said "somewhat" savvy :lol and that he's lying through his teeth

[Spurtacular]

Klobuchar punching above her weight?

:lmao Bitch just called herself a lightweight.

[spurraider21]

oddly enough though, the iowa primary has been a successful predictor for the democratic nomination for the last couple decades

https://i.gyazo.com/e4085f23c8fe0c4b580c0066de4ff25c.png

[SnakeBoy]

They're saying Biden did really bad. Finished behind Bernie, Warren, and Buttplug.

[spurraider21]

They're saying Biden did really bad. Finished behind Bernie, Warren, and Buttplug.
the last time we got any kind of update he was neck and neck with klobuchar :lol

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1224561674679488513

lol

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1224561674679488513

lol

:lol "Shadow"

They love to flout their impropriety.

[SnakeBoy]

the last time we got any kind of update he was neck and neck with klobuchar :lol

Somebody should advise him to stop telling people to go vote for someone else :lol

[spurraider21]

obviously, questionable reliability of these figures... but its the only relevant "update" we've had in hours now

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[spurraider21]

:lol

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[Spurtacular]

DES MOINES, Iowa — Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/pete-buttigieg/) is declaring victory in Iowa’s first-in-the-nation presidential caucuses, even though no official results have been reported.
Speaking to supporters late Monday in Des Moines, the Democratic presidential candidate says, “By all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious.”
He adds: “Tonight, an improbable hope became an undeniable reality.”



As they say on the Sopranos, the balls on this guy?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/4/pete-buttigieg-declares-victory-after-iowa-caucuse/

[Reck]

As they say on the Sopranos, the balls on this guy?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/4/pete-buttigieg-declares-victory-after-iowa-caucuse/

Well according to tweet Spurraider posted he's at least in second which is not bad. 40% in though and probably on sites Bernie expected to do well in.

[ElNono]

:lol Iowa
:lol DNC
:lol farmersonly
:lol Biden
:lol Burisma

[Spurtacular]

Well according to tweet Spurraider posted he's at least in second which is not bad. 40% in though and probably on sites Bernie expected to do well in.

Second is not the winner. Ballsy move. If it backfires, he deserves a steep decline.

[ElNono]

is it just me or conservatives seem to be more interested in these primaries than democrats, tbh?

[SnakeBoy]

is it just me or conservatives seem to be more interested in these primaries than democrats, tbh?

I'm always more interested in politics rather than policy.

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/abbymartin/status/1224566938682048512?s=21

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1224561063103873024?s=21

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/abbymartin/status/1224566938682048512?s=21

:lol this chick

complaints about people giving faux victory speeches than proceeds to claim victory herself while also saying Biden got destroyed.

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1224561063103873024?s=21
This reeks of the DNC trying to create noise that distracts from how shittily Biden did.

[Will Hunting]

All the reports say Biden got crushed....I guess it’s impossible for Biden to lose though if every time he does lose it’ll get chalked up as a “voting irregularity” where everything gets shut down.

[florige]

Trump is going to have a field day with this fiasco. :rolleyes

[LaMarcus Bryant]

twitter trolls in full russia mode fanning the flames


this 2016 shit is gonna happen all over again isn't it.

[CosmicCowboy]

it's a pretty safe bet this fiasco in Iowa just lost them their "first in the nation" status for 2024.

[monosylab1k]

Well four more years of Trump won’t be so bad, right?

[boutons_deux]

Well four more years of Trump won’t be so bad, right?

2020 and vengeful Trash unchained with acquittal in a rigged "trial" won't be so bad, either

[monosylab1k]

Running it back with Hillary now seems like the best possible option :lmao could Democrats have messed this up any worse? Just a complete and total embarrassment.

[boutons_deux]

IA is 3M white people, doesn't rep USA.

IA needs some H-1B Indians and Chinese to handle their technology

caucuses are stupid.

IA elects Stephen King and Grassley, fuck 'em

Will this fiasco be the end of both IA and caucuses?

[Will Hunting]

IA is 3M white people, doesn't rep USA.

IA needs some H-1B Indians and Chinese to handle their technology

caucuses are stupid.

IA elects Stephen King and Grassley, fuck 'em

Will this fiasco be the end of both IA and caucuses?
Unlikely re caucuses. Americans love to continue outdated, nonsensical things for the sake of “tradition”, especially when it comes to elections (caucuses, voting on a Tuesday, superdelegates, etc.).

[AaronY]

All the reports say Biden got crushed....I guess it’s impossible for Biden to lose though if every time he does lose it’ll get chalked up as a “voting irregularity” where everything gets shut down.
Lol you're currently crying in the previous post about the vote counting process being rigged against Bernie by the DNC somehow even though he won.

[boutons_deux]

Unlikely re caucuses. Americans love to continue outdated, nonsensical things for the sake of “tradition”, especially when it comes to elections (caucuses, voting on a Tuesday, superdelegates, etc.).

Yep, "dynamic", "modern" "New World" America is blocked, constipated, ossified, can't do shit, can't fix shit, and for a big majority of Americans, shit stays the same or shit gets worse.

[Trill Clinton]

Tom Perez should step down immediately.

[Will Hunting]

Lol you're currently crying in the previous post about the vote counting process being rigged against Bernie by the DNC somehow even though he won.
Point out where in my previous post I mentioned Bernie or anything about rigging.

[boutons_deux]

is it just me or conservatives seem to be more interested in these primaries than democrats, tbh?

Trash/Repugs tried to upstage/deflect from the IA by Repugs visiting the state, holding competing rallies, etc. I think the same is planned for NH primary next week.

As always, Trash/Repugs aren't interested governing, policies, Making America Great, only in winning by cheating, fraud, by defeating in the nastiest ways.

[CosmicCowboy]

Boo, you should really get out of that smokey singlewide and get some fresh air.

[AaronY]

Point out where in my previous post I mentioned Bernie or anything about rigging.
The whole thing:
"This reeks of the DNC trying to create noise that distracts from how shittily Biden did."

between your DNC theories , your support of every far left program from GND, 90% wealth tax, m4all, etc you're basically like thinking man's version of boutons at this point lol.

[Isitjustme?]

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[Will Hunting]

The whole thing:
"This reeks of the DNC trying to create noise that distracts from how shittily Biden did."

between your DNC theories , your support of every far left program from GND, 90% wealth tax, m4all, etc you're basically like thinking man's version of boutons at this point lol.



:lol nothing in that post mentions anything about Bernie or vote rigging

[AaronY]

:lol nothing in that post mentions anything about Bernie or vote rigging
Not vote rigging but the process being rigged or altered somehow. It was a pretty good post tbh. Just needed a little more nicknames like AmericaKKK and Trash maybe. Also maybe some red font to make it pop off the page

[Will Hunting]

Lol you're currently crying in the previous post about the vote counting process being rigged.


Not vote rigging

:lmao

[AaronY]

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So Bernie rigged it against himself to make Biden look good. Wonder how deep this goes..

[AaronY]

Whatever the technical definition of rigging is you were still claiming malfeasance and DNC conspiracies is what I meant. I mean I said Bernie won

[Will Hunting]

Whatever the technical definition of rigging is you were still claiming malfeasance and DNC conspiracies is what I meant.
:lol my post apparently rustled your jimmies so badly that you couldn’t coherently articulate whatever it is you were saying

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol my post apparently rustled your jimmies so badly that you couldn’t coherently articulate whatever it is you were saying

I pray that Bernie Sanders wins the primaries I wanna see AaronY have a full meltdown and see if he will switch to Donald Trump :lol

[AaronY]

:lol my post apparently rustled your jimmies so badly that you couldn’t coherently articulate whatever it is you were saying

I honestly thought rigging just meant any kind of interference or malfeasance or whatever lol

[Proxy]

less about covering up for Biden, more about hurting Bernie's momentum as much as possible. Polls were indicating he's winning NH by a wide margin, don't want to add an Iowa victory speech heading into Nevada and SC if you're DNC

The connection between Pete and the Shadow company that made the app looks like bullshit obv

[SpursforSix]

those satellite caucuses can be tiny though :lol.. how many people were there altogether?

Bend over, I'll fucking show you a tiny caucus.

[Will Hunting]

I honestly thought rigging just meant any kind of interference or malfeasance or whatever lol
I wouldn’t even say I was accusing interference or malfeasance....really just a spectacle that distract the news cycle between now and the primaries where Biden is projected to do better (South Carolina). I wouldn’t call that interference or malfeasance per se.

[AaronY]

less about covering up for Biden, more about hurting Bernie's momentum as much as possible. Polls were indicating he's winning NH by a wide margin, don't want to add an Iowa victory speech heading into Nevada and SC if you're DNC

The connection between Pete and the Shadow company that made the app looks like bullshit obv
Lol boutons literally is basically the median progressive in terms of mentality now all kidding aside

[AaronY]

I wouldn’t even say I was accusing interference or malfeasance....really just a spectacle that distract the news cycle between now and the primaries where Biden is projected to do better (South Carolina). I wouldn’t call that interference or malfeasance per se.

What do you expect in AmericaKKK? It's all rigged

[Will Hunting]

Lol boutons literally is basically the median progressive in terms of mentality now all kidding aside
Not sure what part of his post you’re commenting on but FEC records show Shadow Inc did perform services for Buttplugs campaign and Bidens campaign (also Gillibrand’s to be fair)....that part isn’t a conspiracy theory.

Doesnt mean there was any wrongdoing as its circumstantial at best but all kidding aside don’t you think there should be rules against private vendors performing services for both the party that’s administering the election and also candidates in the election?

[TheGreatYacht]

Sure Sign Bernie Won Iowa Caucus

https://youtu.be/Asgd58Kaszc

[boutons_deux]

FLORIDA OFFERS TO HELP IOWA COUNT VOTES

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5e398c87093c1800087b8435/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Borowitz-IowaCaucusMess.jpg

TALLAHASSEE, Florida —

Calling the delay in the release of the Iowa caucus results “a threat to democracy,”

the state of Florida has offered to help Iowa with the vote-counting process.

Harland Dorrinson, a spokesman for Florida’s official electoral commission, said on Tuesday morning that

“Florida stands ready and willing to restore credibility to Iowa’s vote-tabulation procedures.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/florida-offers-to-help-iowa-count-caucus-votes (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/florida-offers-to-help-iowa-count-caucus-votes)

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol hanging chads

[Will Hunting]

:lmao the fact that in 2020 this is how we’re doing elections:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP5_EqIWsAEbwT7.jpg:large

[monosylab1k]

There’s an Asian guy in the race? Okay I’m ride or die with him now.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Trill Clinton]

Statement from IDP:

The full statement by Iowa Democratic Party Chair Troy Price can be read below.

Last night, more than 1,600 precinct caucuses gathered across the state of Iowa and at satellite caucuses around the world to demonstrate our shared values and goal of taking back the White House. The many volunteers running caucus sites, new voters registering as Democrats, and neighbors talking to each other about the future of our country demonstrated the strength of our party.

We have every indication that our systems were secure and there was not a cyber security intrusion. In preparation for the caucuses, our systems were tested by independent cybersecurity consultants.

As precinct caucus results started coming in, the IDP ran them through an accuracy and quality check. It became clear that there were inconsistencies with the reports. The underlying cause of these inconsistencies was not immediately clear, and required investigation, which took time.

As this investigation unfolded, IDP staff activated pre-planned backup measures and entered data manually. This took longer than expected.

As part of our investigation, we determined with certainty that the underlying data collected via the app was sound. While the app was recording data accurately, it was reporting out only partial data. We have determined that this was due to a coding issue in the reporting system. This issue was identified and fixed. The application’s reporting issue did not impact the ability of precinct chairs to report data accurately.

Because of the required paper documentation, we have been able to verify that the data recorded in the app and used to calculate State Delegate Equivalents is valid and accurate. Precinct level results are still being reported to the IDP. While our plan is to release results as soon as possible today, our ultimate goal is to ensure that the integrity and accuracy of the process continues to be upheld.

[DarrinS]

"We have every indication that our systems were secure and there was not a cyber security intrusion."


I'm not sure why they announced this first. Did anyone allege this?

[spurraider21]

"We have every indication that our systems were secure and there was not a cyber security intrusion."


I'm not sure why they announced this first. Did anyone allege this?
people are questioning the "integrity" of the results... so it would speak to that

[DarrinS]

people are questioning the "integrity" of the results... so it would speak to that

Oh, ok

[TSA]

:lmao the fact that in 2020 this is how we’re doing elections:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP5_EqIWsAEbwT7.jpg:large

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1224731240793767936

:lol

[spurraider21]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1224731240793767936

:lol
:lol what the fuck is that?

[spurraider21]

again... the reliability of these figures is uncertain given that they are internal numbers (though they also line up with the numbers bootyjudge released, where they said he got 25%)

1224761002513715200

:lmao if true that biden got less initial votes than klobuchar

[Isitjustme?]

again... the reliability of these figures is uncertain given that they are internal numbers (though they also line up with the numbers bootyjudge released, where they said he got 25%)

1224761002513715200

:lmao if true that biden got less initial votes than klobuchar

Remember what we talked about yesterday?

[spurraider21]

Remember what we talked about yesterday?
mhm. whats the relevance?

i specifically cautioned that the numbers may not be reliable, and i said "if true" as a qualifier at the bottom.

i would find it quite noteworthy if the big frontrunner only got the 5th most initial votes in what will be a (albeit small) swing state

somehow you find this problematic. i mean, if i was crying conspiracy theory/rigging i'd get your beef. just seems you want to complain tbh

[SnakeBoy]

"We have determined that this was due to a coding issue"

Probably used one of Biden's coal miner coders

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol what the fuck is that?

X2

Thats the most fucked up coin toss I have ever seen.

[spurraider21]

X2

Thats the most fucked up coin toss I have ever seen.
thats how i would expect an alien who is hiding in human form would act during a coin toss

[Will Hunting]

:lol all the entry and exit polling in Iowa is also showing that Bernie won because of healthcare and people wanting Medicare for all. Establishment Dems can try all they want but the single payer train is off the tracks and there’s nothing that’s changing it at this point.

[Will Hunting]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1224731240793767936

:lol
:lmao what the fuck was that

[Thread]

:lol all the entry and exit polling in Iowa is also showing that Bernie won because of healthcare and people wanting Medicare for all. Establishment Dems can try all they want but the single payer train is off the tracks and there’s nothing that’s changing it at this point.

That's it & that's all.

[Thread]

again... the reliability of these figures is uncertain given that they are internal numbers (though they also line up with the numbers bootyjudge released, where they said he got 25%)

1224761002513715200

:lmao if true that biden got less initial votes than klobuchar

CNN has these numbers & will not speak of them. There is a Sanders proponent on the panel (all the way to the right) on the CNN dais & every time she tries to talk about Sanders & these numbers she is cut off by Dana Bash & Cooper.

[spurraider21]

CNN has these numbers & will not speak of them. There is a Sanders proponent on the panel (all the way to the right) on the CNN dais & every time she tries to talk about Sanders & these numbers she is cut off by Dana Bash & Cooper.
i haven't watched cable in years

but those numbers are unofficial, unverified. i wouldnt blame somebody for not running them. but these guys should have some entrance/exit polling data

[spurraider21]

:lol wojtek with the scoop

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she looks to be wearing Klobuchar gear, so wherever this precinct was she probably defected to pete during the realignment (the limited data we have has shown that pete did well during realignment stages)

[Will Hunting]

I pray that Bernie Sanders wins the primaries I wanna see AaronY have a full meltdown and see if he will switch to Donald Trump :lol
Oh you can be sure that if Bernie wins all the Biden/Hillary supporters are going throw a temper tantrum that dwarfs anything the Bernie Bros cried about in 2016 and at the very least threaten to vote for Trump if Bernie doesn’t move closer to the middle...no different than what the Clintons did after Obama won in 2008.

[Chucho]

i haven't watched cable in years

Only Zionists watch cable. Their oligarch emperors dictate to their brain dead masses what to think, who to hate and how to carry out their agenda. It's only through the chosen few who are woke, such as myself, to call out these Zionist armies and their agenda. World War 50, mass extinction, whitey, anti-Christian, nukes, Zionism, Jews, Jewsjewsjewsjewsjews.

[spurraider21]

Only Zionists watch cable. Their oligarch emperors dictate to their brain dead masses what to think, who to hate and how to carry out their agenda. It's only through the chosen few who are woke, such as myself, to call out these Zionist armies and their agenda. World War 50, mass extinction, whitey, anti-Christian, nukes, Zionism, Jews, Jewsjewsjewsjewsjews.
EXACTLY. glad to see somebody else took the redpill and is now WOKE like me

[spurraider21]

Oh you can be sure that if Bernie wins all the Biden/Hillary supporters are going throw a temper tantrum that dwarfs anything the Bernie Bros cried about in 2016 and at the very least threaten to vote for Trump if Bernie doesn’t move closer to the middle...no different than what the Clintons did after Obama won in 2008.
http://www.addletters.com/pictures/bart-simpson-generator/bart-simpson-generator.php?line=Joe+Biden+is+a+man+who+has+devo ted+his+entire+life+to+public+service.

[Will Hunting]

:lol wojtek with the scoop

1224773513602654208

she looks to be wearing Klobuchar gear, so wherever this precinct was she probably defected to pete during the realignment (the limited data we have has shown that pete did well during realignment stages)
If that’s true then it’s bad news for Biden...I would have expected him to clean up as a backup plan.

:lmao @ at the campaign official awkwardly trying to convince the woman in that video

[Phenomanul]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1224731240793767936

:lol

He was better off just letting the coin hit the ground - NFL style.

[spurraider21]

what a bizarre system tbh

49 = 38 =/= 38

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9c6S-WkAcK6my?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/maxblumenthal/status/1224580487756296192?s=21

[Will Hunting]

what a bizarre system tbh

49 = 38 =/= 38

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9c6S-WkAcK6my?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
I like the concept of a realignment where people get to vote again if their candidate didn’t meet a threshold...the part of the process that includes napkin math, coin flips and rounding is where you lose me.

[spurraider21]

I like the concept of a realignment where people get to vote again if their candidate didn’t meet a threshold...the part of the process that includes napkin math, coin flips and rounding is where you lose me.
i agree. its a version of ranked choice voting, which is inherently a good thing, and giving you the hindsight of who is/isn't viable before that second vote is an interesting dynamic.

[Trill Clinton]

1224546051941683202

damn

[Will Hunting]

1224546051941683202

damn
Creative way to deflect from the crux of the question.

[spurraider21]

Creative way to deflect from the crux of the question.
not only deflects but exacerbates

bragging about how much richer he is than trump is such a tone-deaf maneuver

[florige]

:lol all the entry and exit polling in Iowa is also showing that Bernie won because of healthcare and people wanting Medicare for all. Establishment Dems can try all they want but the single payer train is off the tracks and there’s nothing that’s changing it at this point.

Yup.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Still no confirmed delegated 24 hours later. :lol

[Will Hunting]

CNN has these numbers & will not speak of them. There is a Sanders proponent on the panel (all the way to the right) on the CNN dais & every time she tries to talk about Sanders & these numbers she is cut off by Dana Bash & Cooper.
CNN blows my phone up with updates every time Trump farts in the wrong direction....not one fucking update from them about this clusterfuck yet :lol

[AaronY]

Oh you can be sure that if Bernie wins all the Biden/Hillary supporters are going throw a temper tantrum that dwarfs anything the Bernie Bros cried about in 2016 and at the very least threaten to vote for Trump if Bernie doesn’t move closer to the middle...no different than what the Clintons did after Obama won in 2008.
Lol I never cried at all on here after Hillary lost in 2016 and I supported her just as much as Biden. Even mocked djohn for wasting time with that stupid Russia thread over and over.

[Will Hunting]

Lol I never cried at all on here after Hillary lost in 2016 and I supported her just as much as Biden. Even mocked djohn for wasting time with that stupid Russia thread over and over.
:lol my god you’re sensitive, my post was a general comment. Wasn’t directed at you but your response is apples to oranges either way, I’m not talking about crying after a general election but rather after your candidate loses a primary.

If it’s Sanders vs Trump who are you voting for in the general?

[spurraider21]

results are now coming in... 62% reporting, per CNN

https://i.gyazo.com/f40a2368047c986d737ee1c5690e08a5.png

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/iowa?xid=ec_crm_iowa_d

[spurraider21]

sanders has more votes in first round, and in final round. but delegate lead to pete right now

https://i.gyazo.com/96360f07eacf3a9836803380c3647f6c.png

https://i.gyazo.com/38436226fdf7fb79baa8ab4c08a0fe8b.png

https://i.gyazo.com/de65efae71f6d34f441ff98668358d2f.png

[spurraider21]

pete and warren are big winners of realignments. biden, the opposite

[AaronY]

:lol my god you’re sensitive, my post was a general comment. Wasn’t directed at you but your response is apples to oranges either way, I’m not talking about crying after a general election but rather after your candidate loses a primary.

If it’s Sanders vs Trump who are you voting for in the general?
Oh greatyacht referenced me in that post you were talking about me lol

[Will Hunting]

pete and warren are big winners of realignments. biden, the opposite
To be fair I think he lost a lot of realignment votes in precincts where he didn’t get 15% to begin with.

Crazy victory for Buttplug though, rural Iowans are batshit crazy bible thumpers (even the Democrat ones)...can’t believe Buttplug did so well with that demographic.

[spurraider21]

To be fair I think he lost a lot of realignment votes in precincts where he didn’t get 15% to begin with.

Crazy victory for Buttplug though, rural Iowans are batshit crazy bible thumpers (even the Democrat ones)...can’t believe Buttplug did so well with that demographic.
of course, but you'd think he'd be a popular second choice in other precincts to mitigate those numbers

and yeah, if the results hold (62% in right now), its a big performance for pete. sanders/warren did about as well as they polled, but pete outperformed quite a bit, whereas biden disappointed. at least these numbers dont have him behind klobuchar

[spurraider21]

this popular vote/delegate count disparity keeps rearing its head tbh... people also dont really talk about how hillary actually beat obama in the popular vote during the 08 primary as well.

[Will Hunting]

of course, but you'd think he'd be a popular second choice in other precincts to mitigate those numbers
Most definitely, these clearly weren’t good results for him.

I’m hoping he gets crushed in New Hampshire and the establishment support abandons him afterwards in favor of Buttplug.

Unrelated but once again the polling data failed to properly weigh rural voters vs urban and suburban voters. Whoever wins the primary won’t matter if the DNC can’t develop a better polling system that tells them where they stand.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

i haven't watched cable in years

but those numbers are unofficial, unverified. i wouldnt blame somebody for not running them. but these guys should have some entrance/exit polling data:rollinAt CNN not running something that's has not been verified.

[Reck]

All the reports say Biden got crushed....I guess it’s impossible for Biden to lose though if every time he does lose it’ll get chalked up as a “voting irregularity” where everything gets shut down.

Unreal. Biden gets owned and is still on course to get some delegates at 16% while Bernie is seemingly losing to pete. What the fuck..

Golden opportunity for Bernie here. Biden is a luck pos

[Spurtacular]

The winner of the popular vote not winning the delegate vote. Once again, there is no issue that the Dems aren't hypocrites on. :lol

[Reck]

The winner of the popular vote not winning the delegate vote. Once again, there is no issue that the Dems aren't hypocrites on. :lol

That's not even the problem. The problem is how the delegates are awarded. The actual winner doesn't really get his due. Just 1 or 2 more delegates than the second place.

[TheGreatYacht]

I hope that faggot Pete winning is not a sign of things to come smh.

[Will Hunting]

:lol so when does the other 38% come in....are we gonna have to wait another 24 hours for it?

[Spurtacular]

That's not even the problem. The problem is how the delegates are awarded. The actual winner doesn't really get his due. Just 1 or 2 more delegates than the second place.

No, that's the problem. Spending all that time crying about the electoral college and then effectively doing the same thing in Iowa. :lol

[spurraider21]

No, that's the problem. Spending all that time crying about the electoral college and then effectively doing the same thing in Iowa. :lol
hence my complaint about it

[Reck]

This caucus stuff is dumb as hell. They need to turn this into an actual primary where you go and vote then go home and enjoy the votes coming in.

[monosylab1k]

Bernie Bros are losing their shit on twitter :lol

[Will Hunting]

Bernie Bros are losing their shit on twitter :lol
Why? These results have been great for Bernie so far.

[spurraider21]

Why? These results have been great for Bernie so far.
probably conspiratards tbh...

"bernie was ahead, then they stopped giving results, now magically pete is winning!"

[Will Hunting]

I’m praying the remaining 38% is somehow hugely in favor of Amy the salad Nazi. It would be amazing if segregation Joe finished behind her.

[monosylab1k]

Why? These results have been great for Bernie so far.

Everything’s a conspiracy against Bernie, he’d wipe the floor with everyone on an even playing field, etc. Basically they’re 2006 era Mavs fans.

[Reck]

Why? These results have been great for Bernie so far.

Probably because he's getting beat by another moderate dem after having been defeated by one last time.

Who will they blame now I wonder...Hillary? Biden? Obama?

They dont take losses well.

[Will Hunting]

Probably because he's getting beat by another moderate dem after having been defeated by one last time.

Who will they blame now I wonder...Hillary? Biden? Obama?

They dont take losses well.
The numbers say they take losses way better than Hillary supporters circa 2008 do :lol

[Reck]

The numbers say they take losses way better than Hillary supporters circa 2008 do :lol

Oh yeah must be why they're still talking about this being rigged in 2020. Seems legit

[Will Hunting]

Oh yeah must be why they're still talking about this being rigged in 2020. Seems legit
Sanders supporters are whiny annoying and come up with stupid theories but they still showed up for Hillary at an 87% success rate

Hillary supporters didn’t whine or complain as much but they only showed up for Obama at a 75% success rate

Any Democrat who’s not retarded would prefer to the former over the latter.

[monosylab1k]

Sanders supporters are whiny annoying and come up with stupid theories but they still showed up for Hillary at an 87% success rate

Hillary supporters didn’t whine or complain as much but they only showed up for Obama at a 75% success rate

Any Democrat who’s not retarded would prefer to the former over the latter.

But to be fair, going from Hillary to McCain is far less ridiculous than going Bernie to Trump.

[boutons_deux]

MSDNC and CNN will collude with DNC and BigDollar Dems to destroy Bernie and Liz

and if by miracle, either one gets into the WH, the corporatist House Dems will implement social democratic reforms

self-congratulating Christian homophobic America ain't gonna elect a homosexual, even if his policies are pro BigDollar/corporatist. He worked for fucking Mckenzie. after all

[Will Hunting]

But to be fair, going from Hillary to McCain is far less ridiculous than going Bernie to Trump.
Not when 1) you have a Republican administration McCain agreed with 91% of the time that was leaving the country in worse economic shape than every president since Herbert Hoover had left it in and 2) McCain had picked a bible thumping nutbag whore as his VP.

Its also revisionist history to pretend the 2008 era Clinton supporters weren’t being loud or annoying in their displeasure with Obama as the candidate. Joe le happy merchant Lieberman (it’s unfortunate his ancestors were able to survive the holocaust tbh) was jockeying to be McCain’s fucking VP pick once Obama won the primary :lol

[monosylab1k]

Hillary to McCain just shows you’re kind of a dick.

Bernie to Trump shows you’re a deeply flawed, unambiguously stupid sheep with no convictions or backbone (no offense to Nathan89)

[baseline bum]

Not when 1) you have a Republican administration McCain agreed with 91% of the time that was leaving the country in worse economic shape than every president since Herbert Hoover had left it in and 2) McCain had picked a bible thumping nutbag whore as his VP.

Its also revisionist history to pretend the 2008 era Clinton supporters weren’t being loud or annoying in their displeasure with Obama as the candidate. Joe le happy merchant Lieberman (it’s unfortunate his ancestors were able to survive the holocaust tbh) was jockeying to be McCain’s fucking VP pick once Obama won the primary :lol

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Meet the people behind Shadow Inc., the tech company that botched the Iowa caucus

Here's what we know about who is connected to the glitchy caucus app,

and which campaigns have worked with them


https://www.salon.com/2020/02/04/meet-the-people-behind-shadow-inc-the-tech-company-that-botched-the-iowa-caucus/ (https://www.salon.com/2020/02/04/meet-the-people-behind-shadow-inc-the-tech-company-that-botched-the-iowa-caucus/)

[spurraider21]

Will Hunting booboo is a perfect example of those people losing their shit on twitter over conspiracy theories

[monosylab1k]

Not when 1) you have a Republican administration McCain agreed with 91% of the time that was leaving the country in worse economic shape than every president since Herbert Hoover had left it in and 2) McCain had picked a bible thumping nutbag whore as his VP.

Its also revisionist history to pretend the 2008 era Clinton supporters weren’t being loud or annoying in their displeasure with Obama as the candidate. Joe le happy merchant Lieberman (it’s unfortunate his ancestors were able to survive the holocaust tbh) was jockeying to be McCain’s fucking VP pick once Obama won the primary :lol

Oh they absolutely were whiny sore losers, just saying 2008 Hillary to McCain is barely going center left to center right, while Bernie to Trump is an ideological chasm wider than Donna Brazile’s ass.

[Spurtacular]

hence my complaint about it

Electoral college at least makes sense on a national level. The super delegates and all this other stuff is just regional rigging.

[spurraider21]

Electoral college at least makes sense on a national level. The super delegates and all this other stuff is just regional rigging.
they're the same stupid thing :lol

national election gives electors based on states
state caucus gives delegates based on precincts

[Spurtacular]

they're the same stupid thing :lol

national election gives electors based on states
state caucus gives delegates based on precincts

Not even close, Lite.

One is a Constitutional staple of the republic; the other is party rigging.

[spurraider21]

Not even close, Lite.

One is a Constitutional staple of the republic; the other is party rigging.
they both give regional delegates instead of a popular vote. your characterizations dont change that.

[Spurtacular]

they both give regional delegates instead of a popular vote. your characterizations dont change that.

It's a real fucking shame that illegal aliens aren't allowed to push you over the edge.

[SnakeBoy]

not only deflects but exacerbates

bragging about how much richer he is than trump is such a tone-deaf maneuver

That was my first thought too.

Maybe he forgot he's in a Democrat primary now.

[Will Hunting]

That was my first thought too.

Maybe he forgot he's in a Democrat primary now.
His ego is so big where he can’t help it...mine would be too if I was a self made billionaire :lol

[spurraider21]

It's a real fucking shame that illegal aliens aren't allowed to push you over the edge.
the context where the electoral college made sense was way back in the day before all states decided to allow their citizens to vote for president.

in the first ever presidential election, only 6 states allowed the people to vote. as the constitution says, states individually decide how to allocate their electoral votes. other states just allowed their legislature to appoint the electors.

so yeah, in a wacky system where different states have different methods of allocating electors, the college somewhat makes sense (assuming we are not taking into consideration the inherent imbalance because of the senate).

but since the civil war, every single state has determined their electors by allowing a popular vote. now that there is that complete uniformity in the country, the original rationale behind the EC doesnt make sense anymore, from a practical perspective. sure, theoretically, tomorrow some states can change their laws going back to the old way and taking away the popular vote to decide electors (lol good luck getting that passed). barring that, the only reason to keep around the EC is to fuck over the will of the majority on occasion

[Spurtacular]

the context where the electoral college made sense was way back in the day before all states decided to allow their citizens to vote for president.

in the first ever presidential election, only 6 states allowed the people to vote. as the constitution says, states individually decide how to allocate their electoral votes. other states just allowed their legislature to appoint the electors.

so yeah, in a wacky system where different states have different methods of allocating electors, the college somewhat makes sense (assuming we are not taking into consideration the inherent imbalance because of the senate).

but since the civil war, every single state has determined their electors by allowing a popular vote. now that there is that complete uniformity in the country, the original rationale behind the EC doesnt make sense anymore, from a practical perspective. sure, theoretically, tomorrow some states can change their laws going back to the old way and taking away the popular vote to decide electors (lol good luck getting that passed). barring that, the only reason to keep around the EC is to fuck over the will of the majority on occasion

It was fine when the electors were reps (of the people), and it is fine that the people are now the electors.

I don't know what "complete uniformity" is supposed to mean, but there's all kind of "wacky" shenanigans. It would be nonsense to put elections so easily in the hands of cheaters with the "popular vote".

[spurraider21]

It was fine when the electors were reps (of the people), and it is fine that the people are now the electors.

I don't know what "complete uniformity" is supposed to mean, but there's all kind of "wacky" shenanigans. It would be nonsense to put elections so easily in the hands of cheaters with the "popular vote".
"complete uniformity" in that now every single state runs a popular vote, such that we effectively have a national popular vote. you no longer have different states using different methods to pick their electors

[Spurtacular]

"complete uniformity" in that now every single state runs a popular vote, such that we effectively have a national popular vote. you no longer have different states using different methods to pick their electors

:lol Of course the popular vote in states wins electors, Lite.

That's why they call it voting. :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol Of course the popular vote in states wins electors, Lite.

That's why they call it voting. :lol
that wasnt always the case though, which is why the EC had some value. like i said, it wasnt until the civil war that every state went to a popular vote to choose electors. in the first election only 6 states chose electors via popular vote

so of course, if you have a country where several states dont have popular votes, it doesnt make sense to scrap the EC... because you have people in all those states who didnt get the opportunity to vote

but that hasnt been the situation for over a century now. if popular vote has become the unanimous method of choosing electors, then it doesnt make sense to keep that middleman step which only serves the purpose of occasional fucking over the will of the people

[Spurtacular]

that wasnt always the case though, which is why the EC had some value. like i said, it wasnt until the civil war that every state went to a popular vote to choose electors. in the first election only 6 states chose electors via popular vote

so of course, if you have a country where several states dont have popular votes, it doesnt make sense to scrap the EC... because you have people in all those states who didnt get the opportunity to vote

but that hasnt been the situation for over a century now. if popular vote has become the unanimous method of choosing electors, then it doesnt make sense to keep that middleman step which only serves the purpose of occasional fucking over the will of the people

It still has a sh** load of value. It preserves states rights and protects against votes being bought and sold like currency.

You're just too bitter to see it.

:lmao #WithHerForever

[spurraider21]

It still has a sh** load of value. It preserves states rights and protects against votes being bought and sold like currency.

You're just too bitter to see it.

:lmao #WithHerForever
what are these states rights you are referring to, and please explain this concept of votes being bought and sold, and how the EC prevents that?

[TheGreatYacht]

Been busy. Who won? What's the official word?

[ElNono]

It still has a sh** load of value. It preserves states rights and protects against votes being bought and sold like currency.

How so?

[Nathan89]

Hillary to McCain just shows you’re kind of a dick.

Bernie to Trump shows you’re a deeply flawed, unambiguously stupid sheep with no convictions or backbone (no offense to Nathan89)

Nobody should take offense to your narrative tbh.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1224915808469553152

[ElNono]

:lol so when does the other 38% come in....are we gonna have to wait another 24 hours for it?

:lol

[spurraider21]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1224915808469553152
:lol

[DarrinS]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1224915808469553152

:lol

That's cold

[spurraider21]

very interesting analysis... of course this is all a model that has been developed from the data we have from Iowa so far, so to be taken with a grain of salt when trying to project nationally.

but it suggests biden/sanders are basically at their peak, and warren/buttigieg stand to benefit the most as the field shrinks

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1224924232976674817.html

[spurraider21]

utter incompetence

1225170253778444291

[SnakeBoy]

utter incompetence

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:lmao

[Reck]

very interesting analysis... of course this is all a model that has been developed from the data we have from Iowa so far, so to be taken with a grain of salt when trying to project nationally.

but it suggests biden/sanders are basically at their peak, and warren/buttigieg stand to benefit the most as the field shrinks

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1224924232976674817.html

Good read. And totally makes sense.

But beyond Iowa and New Hampshire where the demographic shifts to be a lot more diverse it’s when you’ll see the real viability of people like Buttiegieg and Klobuchar.

[spurraider21]

Good read. And totally makes sense.

But beyond Iowa and New Hampshire where the demographic shifts to be a lot more diverse it’s when you’ll see the real viability of people like Buttiegieg and Klobuchar.
its interesting that sanders voters flock to warren, but not the other way around

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its interesting that sanders voters flock to warren, but not the other way around

at least there's joy to take in all the hillary fans splitting themselves between warren and klobuchar

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Bernie
Pete
Warren
Biden

*pats self on the back*

gg Bernie, about to destroy NH

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*pats self on the back*

gg Bernie, about to destroy NH

That is a nice call. Congrats

[spurraider21]

:lmao TGY's boy melting down

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:lmao TGY's boy melting down

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Is he talking about the one tweet you posted a couple of days ago from the Bernie people with 40% in?

I remember seeing randoms on twitter claiming victory based on those numbers with just 40% in.

[spurraider21]

Is he talking about the one tweet you posted a couple of days ago from the Bernie people with 40% in?

I remember seeing randoms on twitter claiming victory based on those numbers with just 40% in.
i think they released one set at 40% and then another with 60 or so... if i'm not mistaken.

but i cautioned as those were "internal numbers" which obviously carry an inherent risk of bias.

to be fair, as i shared above, iowa acknowledged that some of the results they posted were flawed and they later released some correction... and thats just feeding the conspiracy train

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currently there's an issue with the dnc numbers not matching up with records, was around 70 percent reported last night. Deval Patrick somehow getting credited with Bernie votes lol.... Doesn't matter, looks like bernie has the popular vote and pete got the points, resulting in a tie at the end. Should be considered a win all things considered... Bernie bros that are freaking out are idiots to not expect this, should be a good sign that the threat is serious enough for the DNC to pull this shit (again). There aint one black man voting for Pete in the country, and Biden praying that SC stays his

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DNC should've forced Obama to campaign with Warren, Pete or Biden, but they're fucking idiots

[ChumpDumper]

Democrats are going to insist on Corbyning this election.

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DNC should've forced Obama to campaign with Warren, Pete or Biden, but they're fucking idiots

Force?

Obama is probably waiting for the nomination process like last time.

[spurraider21]

Democrats are going to insist on Corbyning this election.
care to elaborate?

[ChumpDumper]

Just fuck up in every way possible to make the Repubicans look sensible.

[spurraider21]

good lord

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[ChumpDumper]

:lol Democrats

[Will Hunting]

:lmao the concept of rounding either 1.3 to 2 or 2.29 to 3 in general.

What a fucking retarded state full of inbred corn farmers.

[ChumpDumper]

True, I should've said :lol Iowa.

[DarrinS]

good lord

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The party of science

[spurraider21]

The party of science
a) they are

b) they didnt even do it wrong. im just pointing out the conspiracy theory stupidity

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[ChumpDumper]

a) they are

b) they didnt even do it wrong. im just pointing out the conspiracy theory stupidity

1225264573839749120Man, caucuses....

[Will Hunting]

DNC should've forced Obama to campaign with Warren, Pete or Biden, but they're fucking idiots
Obama is probably waiting to see who emerges between them with the idea that his endorsement will get that person past Bernie. It’s too early for Obama to pick a horse, especially since Biden is sunk the minute Obama endorses anyone other than him.