Jabari: Spurs Actively Trying to Trade Marco Belinelli & DeMarre Carroll; Listening to Offers on Rudy Gay

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Some GMs have even turned their eyes to the San Antonio Spurs' roster, as the team has a few wings and shooters, which have been the target of the trade market.
With a team salary of roughly $123 million, the Spurs are not in the luxury tax, but they do have two wings and a shooter that could become future draft pick assets. The Spurs are working with DeMarre Carroll's agent Mark Bartelstein of Priority Sports & Entertainment to find a new home for the forward, who signed a three-year, $20 million deal last offseason.
Carroll, 33, hasn't found any playing time with the Spurs and is looking to move on, and the team is also shopping 3-point specialist Marco Belinelli. As of now, no serious suitors have stepped up as Belinelli is considered a significant defensive liability.
But in conversations with league executives, the belief is the Spurs are aiming to make the eighth seed, which would give the team 23 consecutive postseason appearances and set a new NBA record. The only other teams with that many consecutive appearances are the Syracuse Nationals and Philadelphia 76ers. The Portland Trail Blazers are next on the list with 21-straight seasons making the playoffs, and the Utah Jazz, with 20, are third.
"They are 100% obsessed with getting that eighth seed," the executive said.
If the Spurs are serious about the playoffs, trading big man LaMarcus Aldridge or wing DeMar DeRozan does not appear to be the goal, but it gets interesting when mentioning forward Rudy Gay's name to league executives.
The Spurs could be willing to part with Gay, who re-signed with the team last summer and is averaging 10.1 points and 5.6 rebounds this season.
"If they get a nice asset back, I think they would do something with Rudy Gay, but I think their asking price is too high," said the league executive.
"Rudy still has something in his tank," said an NBA scout, who added teams are not dying to help the Spurs as the franchise had dominated the league throughout Gregg Popovich's tenure as head coach.

[spurspl]

bye bye lottery pick bye bye bright future for the spurs

[313]

:lol don’t want to help the Spurs but will gift wrap a trade for the Lakers any time

I don’t blame Pop for chasing the playoff record, but it’s laughable to imagine him playing Bryn was part of that master plan.

Hopefully we get a couple first round picks out of whatever scenario plays out.

[exstatic]

Jabari, on like his 3rd gig in 3 years.

[spurspl]

:lol don’t want to help the Spurs but will gift wrap a trade for the Lakers any time

I don’t blame Pop for chasing the playoff record, but it’s laughable to imagine him playing Bryn was part of that master plan.

Hopefully we get a couple first round picks out of whatever scenario plays out.
dont think anyone mentioned in the news is worth a 1st pick

[Genovaswitness]

"aiming to make the eighth seed"

great job doing that poop :toast

[FkLA]

:pop: Our third best player Brent is not expendable. We are still trying to win after all.

[look_at_g_shred]

100% obsessed with getting swept in the first round.

[Spurs Homer]

Why wasnt Forbes mentioned?

when did Carrol EVER get a chance to play?

and why did they sign him if they were never even going to give him a tryout?

even the carcass of Carroll is better than forbes

[313]

:pop: Our third best player Brent is not expendable. We are still trying to win after all.:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Sixers looking for shooting. Marco for a 2nd.

[emanueldavidginobili]

"SA wants that 23rd consecutive playoff spot which would set a record so could kept squad intact"

This team isn't making the playoffs with this squad, i'm confused..

[Genovaswitness]

"SA wants that 23rd consecutive playoff spot which would set a record so could kept squad intact"

This team isn't making the playoffs with this squad, i'm confused..



I also didn't realize how close the blazers and jazz were lmao. even if we make this yearwhat about next year? :lmao :lmao :lmao

[spurspl]

I also didn't realize how close the blazers and jazz were lmao. even if we make this yearwhat about next year? :lmao :lmao :lmao
bring back tony and timi to fight for 24th PO

[FkLA]

I also didn't realize how close the blazers and jazz were lmao. even if we make this yearwhat about next year? :lmao :lmao :lmao

Those aren't current streaks so the Jazz and Blazers are never catching the Spurs streak.

[313]

I cant help but think how much better this team would be minus Forbes and plus Bertans.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Tbh I have been saying sending Forbes to Phiily for a second round pick is the move to make. Rudy Gay would probably draw interest from some teams though tbh. But the list of teams I'm thinking of either don't have any first round draft picks (Houston, both LA teams) or don't need him (Bos, Mil,Tor, Phil, etc). The only playoff team that makes sense for him is Brooklyn. It's Marks or nothing tbh.

[Genovaswitness]

Those aren't current streaks so the Jazz and Blazers are never catching the Spurs streak.

OOPS my bad.

[TimDunkem]

Tbh I have been saying sending Forbes to Phiily for a second round pick is the move to make. Rudy Gay would probably draw interest from some teams though tbh. But the list of teams I'm thinking of either don't have any first round draft picks (Houston, both LA teams) or don't need him (Bos, Mil,Tor, Phil, etc). The only playoff team that makes sense for him is Brooklyn. It's Marks or nothing tbh.

Does this look like a team that makes smart moves like this? Pop will never part with Forbes.

[TimDunkem]

Also:

:lol

Remember when this team didn't care about "meaningless records"?

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Also:

:lol

Remember when this team didn't care about "meaningless records"?
Pop is retiring this year bro. It would be quite the feather in his cap to hold the all-time consecutive playoff streak. He's already 3rd all-time in wins and 3rd in championships. Just seals the deal on his legacy by getting this 8th seed :lol

[spurspl]

Pop is retiring this year bro. It would be quite the feather in his cap to hold the all-time consecutive playoff streak. He's already 3rd all-time in wins and 3rd in championships. Just seals the deal on his legacy by getting this 8th seed :lol

if i were him id prefer to leave the best team i can make so the next coach could have a good start. But hes kind of selfish...fck pop

[TimDunkem]

Pop is retiring this year bro. It would be quite the feather in his cap to hold the all-time consecutive playoff streak. He's already 3rd all-time in wins and 3rd in championships. Just seals the deal on his legacy by getting this 8th seed :lol

Pop just selfishly feeding his ego while he tells everyone else to get over themselves, and sits his youth while the Spurs flounder with his pets. What a way to go out.

[MoSpur02]

I broke this a couple of days ago in the trade deadline thread so I guess my source was right. That or Jabari is stalking Spurstalk and getting his info from here.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

sad because marco is a historically bad defender but he is a major upgrade on barron

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Trading Marco is great, it frees up even more minutes for Lonnie. Hanging onto Brent forms is a huge L and par for Pops course.

[exstatic]

I broke this a couple of days ago in the trade deadline thread so I guess my source was right. That or Jabari is stalking Spurstalk and getting his info from here.

He has an account.

[DPG21920]

:lmao other teams not wanting to touch the guys that Pop is signing to bigger deals and playing heavy minutes. Can’t make this up.

Let’s really hope Pop isn’t being so stubborn he can’t see the Forrest for the trees. This team as currently constructed has no business being kept together.

THey need drastic changes one way or the other. Pick a lane and go. But if they can’t get anything done at deadline, this Summer has to bring change.

[exstatic]

Pop is retiring this year bro. It would be quite the feather in his cap to hold the all-time consecutive playoff streak. He's already 3rd all-time in wins and 3rd in championships. Just seals the deal on his legacy by getting this 8th seed :lol

:lol Pop is sitting on 1267 wins. The top spot is Don Nelson with 1335, 68 wins away. He's not going anywhere until he sits on top.

[DPG21920]

Everyone should want to win. That is the goal. You should not expect championships every year either.

But for teams like SA, that were built to win now, have again vets (etc) just blanket making the playoffs isn’t a real goal. You can’t have a losing record, playoffs or not, and think that is acceptable.

If you are MEM and are building towards something, sure, that trajectory makes sense. But SA is not on that path and need to do something.

[EasyMoney]

Trade Carroll and belinelli for pieces that can help the starting lineup and let's move on. Can't move them for salary space because no one has salary to bring in

[DC23]

I really want to know the back story on Carroll. Collecting dust on the bench.

[lmbebo]

Gay just moved into a new bigger home last summer. His old home went on the market 1-2 weeks ago ....

[Chucho]

bye bye lottery pick bye bye bright future for the spurs

Where did you see the Spurs finishing this year and what range in the lottery did you expect to see them?

[NASpurs]

100% committed to making the playoffs but giving heavy minutes to Forbes and having Marco ahead of Walker in the rotation earlier in the season while also refusing to play White and Murray together...

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[DPG21920]

What does SA expect to get for players like Carroll (can’t even find minutes on a bad team in SA), Beli (everyone knows he’s awful on defense), Rudy (has value I believe, but has not been a positive year for him)?

Like, SA shouldn’t be using assets to dump those players, but if they can rid themselves of their mistakes (Rudy, Carroll, Beli, Forbes and Mills to a lesser degree) without giving up assets? They should.

Start clearing your books, open up minutes for younger higher ceiling players and go from there. That is the bare minimum.

But they should be way more aggressive than that. There is no reason to sell DeRozan/LMA for nothing, but the non-youth core can GTFO for free.

[offset formation]

Sixers looking for shooting. Marco for a 2nd.

Would much rather keep Marco and trade Bryn.

[RC_Drunkford]

At least they are trying. Trading Carroll, Belinelli and Gay is the right move, as Rudy has been garbage this season. Forbes should be #1 on the list and Lyles shouldn't be off limits neither. I just don't see what they could get back to improve the team. We gotta hope some GM is dumb enough to fall for these garbage-ass players and gives us a starter back in return

[DPG21920]

Beli is off the books next year anyways, so he can just be waived and should be. Carroll can be waived easily as well. No reason to give up assets to get them off the team. Just waive them.

Rudy should be traded if he has any positive value. Even a 2nd round pick. The key is does SA believe in this enough to start offering up their first round picks and/or White/Lonnie/Murray/Keldon/Luka/Jakob to really improve their win-now chances?

I think they know that is not smart, so we won’t see that. But if that is true, then moving DeRozan and/or LMA has to be in play now or this Summer.

[JADG79]

We can do better without Pop, we don't need a trade. Just a coach change.
Hopefully we can do something at deadline.

[ceperez]

Sixers looking for shooting. Marco for a 2nd.

This still could happen. Sixers need the shooting and have had Belinelli before.

[Dverde]

:lol they gave away Bertrans and now want assets for washed Marco and DeMarre Carroll

[EasyMoney]

Beli is off the books next year anyways, so he can just be waived and should be. Carroll can be waived easily as well. No reason to give up assets to get them off the team. Just waive them.

Rudy should be traded if he has any positive value. Even a 2nd round pick. The key is does SA believe in this enough to start offering up their first round picks and/or White/Lonnie/Murray/Keldon/Luka/Jakob to really improve their win-now chances?

I think they know that is not smart, so we won’t see that. But if that is true, then moving DeRozan and/or LMA has to be in play now or this Summer.



I think if you waive Carroll then his 3rd year becomes guaranteed

[RC_Drunkford]

I think Rudy + one of Beli/Carroll can get you a starter back. Kings and Hornets are the 2 teams I'd look at. Maybe Orlando. I don't see Memphis giving their competition Iggy, T-Wolves want 2 picks for Covington and 50% of the league wants Gallo. Spurs certainly won't trade for Bertans or Marcus Morris. Markieff can be had for a 2nd-rounder though :lol

[spurspl]

Where did you see the Spurs finishing this year and what range in the lottery did you expect to see them?

spurs is tryna to make another PO so lottery pick is probably gone. There is no forbes and mills on the rumors so still poor minutes for young players. DDR and LMA would be kept to the end of their contracts so nothing in return. Sum up everything and u get no lottery picks nor bright future.

[DPG21920]

I think if you waive Carroll then his 3rd year becomes guaranteed

Hmm, not sure about that. But either way, they can negotiate that I believe.

[RC_Drunkford]

:lol they gave away Bertrans and now want assets for washed Marco and DeMarre Carroll

Flopovich logic. And Wizards could get a 1st-rounder for Bertans now easily, while his salary next year is projected to be around 17 million :lol PATFO :lmao

[acoelho1]

I fine with standing pat as long as Pop gives Murray, White & Walker 30mins a night. That one change could easily put us in the playoffs.

[Mugen]

Freeing up space to re-sign Bryn :lmao

[Dex]

I broke this a couple of days ago in the trade deadline thread so I guess my source was right. That or Jabari is stalking Spurstalk and getting his info from here.

Anybody with any inside insights able to share why Carroll has been glued to the bench?

Bad fit? Bad attitude? Injury? Washed?

It just seems so weird that they would throw a 3-year contract at a guy and then not play him AT ALL.

timvp ?

[baseline bum]

With Portland starting to play decent ball the 8-seed looks like a pipe dream. I hope that's misdirection and the Spurs end up blowing it up (eg goodbye Aldridge + DeRozan + Gay + Bellinelli + Carroll + Forbes) for young talent to build with.

[RC_Drunkford]

I would really love to get Myles Turner. Reports say he's on the block. John Collins from Atlanta as well.

[mo7888]

With Portland starting to play decent ball the 8-seed looks like a pipe dream. I hope that's misdirection and the Spurs end up blowing it up (eg goodbye Aldridge + DeRozan + Gay + Bellinelli + Carroll + Forbes) for young talent to build with.

This...

[DPG21920]

I fine with standing pat as long as Pop gives Murray, White & Walker 30mins a night. That one change could easily put us in the playoffs.

I’m fine with standing pat if they aren’t getting good offers and are being asked to give assets up. If that’s the case, just eat the sh*t sandwich you made and deal with things in the Summer.

[DPG21920]

With Portland starting to play decent ball the 8-seed looks like a pipe dream. I hope that's misdirection and the Spurs end up blowing it up (eg goodbye Aldridge + DeRozan + Gay + Bellinelli + Carroll + Forbes) for young talent to build with.


I think SA (Pop) really does value playoffs for vanity reasons. But from what I’ve seen they are open to offers. I just don’t think anything was going to happen early because they wanted to see how the PO picture looked and teams were also low balling.

[Mugen]

With Portland starting to play decent ball the 8-seed looks like a pipe dream. I hope that's misdirection and the Spurs end up blowing it up (eg goodbye Aldridge + DeRozan + Gay + Bellinelli + Carroll + Forbes) for young talent to build with.
baseline bum gets it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Anybody with any inside insights able to share why Carroll has been glued to the bench?

Bad fit? Bad attitude? Injury? Washed?

It just seems so weird that they would throw a 3-year contract at a guy and then not play him AT ALL.

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) ?

He obviously said something to Pop that Pop didn't like. Otherwise there's no way Pop prefers a rookie more than a vet over 32

[itzsoweezee]

I don't expect anything good to come from the trade deadline. All I want is (1) Bryn getting benched and relegated to less than 10 min/game and (2) Lonnie getting a ton of playing time, 20 minutes plus.

What I expect is only minor changes and the Spurs continue to sputter the remainder of the schedule, with no better outlook on the future and no higher than a 9th place finish.

[DPG21920]

Also, they don’t have to do anything at the deadline. They can do things this Summer with the same results. Especially if S&T of DeRozan makes him even more tradeable.

[Larry O]

It's intriguing that some of the local media pundits, are in agreement with this idea. I like RG22 the best out of this bunch, but lately, he's been playing like poop since recovering from his illness. Hopefully he can get back in rhythm, but if he can get it going, either way, Rudy has the most value, rather if it's keeping him or shipping him off. Carroll... we may just get a 2nd round picks for the guy(?). I can definitely see him being shipped off well before Beli or Rudy. But we'll see, because this team wants to make
the playoffs, but Pop likes established players who know the system & have that Spurs team chemistry.

[UZER]

As has been said many times before, the Spurs cannot move until Pop moves on. The guy is 70 and doesn’t want to be there, and is coaching like he doesn’t give a shit.

Why make any moves at all while he’s still coaching? It’s pointless.

[Gibbz]

"Asking price too high" on Rudy fucking Gay. This front office really has completely lost the plot. He turns 34 in August, he's having his worst season since his rookie year, and he's owed $14.5 million next season. It would be a tremendous gift if they even got back a positive asset for him.

[DPG21920]

"Asking price too high" on Rudy fucking Gay. This front office really has completely lost the plot. He turns 34 in August, he's having his worst season since his rookie year, and he's owed $14.5 million next season. It would be a tremendous gift if they even got back a positive asset for him.

Dude :lol? I’m not a fan of the front office past couple years, but this is an odd thing. You can always take a bad offer. Why would they not play hardball right now?

[Genovaswitness]

As has been said many times before, the Spurs cannot move until Pop moves on. The guy is 70 and doesn’t want to be there, and is coaching like he doesn’t give a shit.

Why make any moves at all while he’s still coaching? It’s pointless.


"Asking price too high" on Rudy fucking Gay. This front office really has completely lost the plot. He turns 34 in August, he's having his worst season since his rookie year, and he's owed $14.5 million next season. It would be a tremendous gift if they even got back a positive asset for him.

time to take the keys away from grandpa

[Gibbz]

Dude :lol? I’m not a fan of the front office past couple years, but this is an odd thing. You can always take a bad offer. Why would they not play hardball right now?

It's funny to play hardball with an obviously washed up player while you're 4 games under .500. It reminds me of Semi-Pro when Jackie Moon didn't know if he wanted to pull the trigger on the washing machine trade.

[jeebus]

With Portland starting to play decent ball the 8-seed looks like a pipe dream. I hope that's misdirection and the Spurs end up blowing it up (eg goodbye Aldridge + DeRozan + Gay + Bellinelli + Carroll + Forbes) for young talent to build with.
That's what I'm hoping. So many people want to keep the streak alive but trying to do that is hampering our rebuild. I'd rather have 2 years of subpar basketball then getting drastically better than 10 years of "well, we made the 8th seed again! Barely!"

[Dverde]

Not to mention The Spurs won’t even trade with a team in playoff contention in the West. DeMarre Carroll must be asking for a trade. It’s the only way they actually trade you.

[Dex]

It's funny to play hardball with an obviously washed up player while you're 4 games under .500. It reminds me of Semi-Pro when Jackie Moon didn't know if he wanted to pull the trigger on the washing machine trade.

That washing machine was a really hard worker.

[Darius Bieber]

That washing machine was a really hard worker.

I'd trade Forbes for that washing machine in an instant tbh

[JADG79]

Anybody with any inside insights able to share why Carroll has been glued to the bench?

Bad fit? Bad attitude? Injury? Washed?

It just seems so weird that they would throw a 3-year contract at a guy and then not play him AT ALL.

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) ?

Probably Carroll is Trump supporter, Pro Life and is in favor of Free Speech and Pop is a communist who does not like others to think differently.
That's what is happening to poor Lonnie who thinks the Earth is an illusion or something weird.

[Dejounte]

Bucks are interested in Carroll per twitter

Give us Brook!

[313]

I'd trade Forbes for that washing machine in an instant tbhThey can take Forbes and my washing machine if thats what gets the deal done

[DPG21920]

Coach Bud helping Pop per par. Why don’t all these other ungrateful coaches that Pop helped do the same?????

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Coach bud owes Pop for covering up his D.U.Is tbh

[Leetonidas]

Spurs will only trade with a team that they've traded with before or has a FO with former Spurs. So that means either Toronto or Brooklyn :lol

[John B]

Wait till Marco dropped 20 pts vs Spurs

[lmbebo]

Bucks are interested in Carroll per twitter

Give us Brook!


Wonder what that trade would look like

[ElNono]

The Carroll situation is beneath this alleged world class FO...

[Russ]

I would really love to get Myles Turner. Reports say he's on the block.

Myles Turner would be great.

But why would a high-end young player like that be on the block?

Any specific reports?

[EasyMoney]

Wonder what that trade would look like


All contracts that could match and make it happen pertain to players Milwaukee actively use. 3rd team might have to be involved unless Milwaukee is ready to give up a key player

[TimDunkem]

Myles Turner would be great.

But why would a high-end young player like that be on the block?

Any specific reports?

Because Sabonis is an all-star. You can afford to upgrade elsewhere.

[EasyMoney]

Myles Turner would be great.

But why would a high-end young player like that be on the block?

Any specific reports?



Ric bucher says he is on the block. But Ric is also unreliable so don't believe it.

[mo7888]

Myles Turner would be great.

But why would a high-end young player like that be on the block?

Any specific reports?

He's been on the block for a couple months now, they don't feel like he meshes well with Sabonis and he can bring back real value.

[baseline bum]

He's been on the block for a couple months now, they don't feel like he meshes well with Sabonis and he can bring back real value.

Well that takes the Spurs out of the market for him then. :lol

[exstatic]

Spurs will only trade with a team that they've traded with before or has a FO with former Spurs. So that means either Toronto or Brooklyn :lol

Or Brooklyn(Marks), OKC(Presti), Indy(Pritchard).

[FkLA]

Why do people keep bringing up big men when the issue with the team for two years now has been the lack of 3&D wings?

Get players that can defend and shoot to take over the minutes Brent and Marco get and this team immediately becomes a Top 4 team in the West.

[ceperez]

Spurs front office loaded with incompetence.


DeMarr Carroll signed for 3 years at 7m each and never played.
Rudy Gay signs 2 years at 14m each, yet has declined in play.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Wait till Marco dropped 20 pts vs Spurs

With Forbes guarding him I’d take the over

[slick'81]

Just trash for trash,nothing to see here

[UZER]

The Carroll situation is beneath this alleged world class FO...

100% agree

But Pop gonna Pop without giving a damn and never feel any resistance from the local media.

This flailing franchise is in deep need of an overhaul. The CEO (Pop) needs to be replaced before it’s too late and we become the Vancouver Grizzlies.

[Seventyniner]

Myles Turner would be great.

But why would a high-end young player like that be on the block?

Any specific reports?

Because he isn't white.

(actually this might be true)

[FkLA]

We don't really know what happened with Carroll.

If he went at Pop, even if he's right about deserving more playing time than the shit brothers Brent and Marco, you can't let someone undermine your authority like that as the head coach. Maybe if he would've shown more patience he would've eventually gotten his chance just like Lonnie. Maybe not. It's unfortunate either way. I was actually pretty excited about finally having a 3&D'ish type guy on the team.

[Dejounte]

Maybe the Spurs never had any plan for Carroll to begin with and he was signed to be a trade piece since they had to spend the MLE anyway?

[jermaine]

Coach Bud wants Carroll, Pop will accommodate that. I can see the Spurs is a classy organization.

[DPG21920]

Why do people keep bringing up big men when the issue with the team for two years now has been the lack of 3&D wings?

Get players that can defend and shoot to take over the minutes Brent and Marco get and this team immediately becomes a Top 4 team in the West.

This team needs talent. Period. Wings being a big one, but overall, any talent.

[mo7888]

Well that takes the Spurs out of the market for him then. :lol

True dat...

I've held out hope that we could put together a package around LMA because Prichard really like him but, it's hard to see one that works for both teams.

[DPG21920]

Coach Bud wants Carroll, Pop will accommodate that. I can see the Spurs is a classy organization.

I don’t see a trade that works well there with just Bucks and SA. Maybe SA just buys him out and he can go to MIL

[JeffDuncan]

Coach Bud wants Carroll, Pop will accommodate that. I can see the Spurs is a classy organization.

If Carroll goes to the Bucks it'll be the same deal as with Gasol. The Spurs will agree to pay $5 million of his salary.

[BatManu20]

If trade Poeltl before Bryn, we riot.

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[Robz4000]

If trade Poeltl before Bryn, we riot.

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:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

man I would love for the Spurs to trade Carroll to the Bucks and he then becomes a key rotation player for them and they win a championship. Feel like I have seen this movie before...

[FkLA]

This team needs talent. Period. Wings being a big one, but overall, any talent.

We've seen tweets circulating of just how much one guy like Brent can bring the team down. Take care of that first. He already brings the talent that is already here down. Surround him with more and he'll just do the same to them. He needs to GTFO.

[cool cat]

If trade Poeltl before Bryn, we riot.

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We better get an insane haul if we are getting rid of Poeltl. Unfortunately we are not.

[Seventyniner]

If trade Poeltl before Bryn, we riot.

The difference is, some teams actually want Poeltl. Hard to trade a guy nobody wants.

[spurs10]

man I would love for the Spurs to trade Carroll to the Bucks and he then becomes a key rotation player for them and they win a championship. Feel like I have seen this movie before... That would greatly make up for his time here on the bench.

[spurs10]

If winning games is important trading Poeltl is a bad move. He's been playing great.

[FkLA]

How much do the Bucks like Matthews? Starting for them but he's only playing 24 mpg and shooting 40% from the field. I feel like he'd still be a massive upgrade over Brent despite his age and injuries. I wanted him after he got bought out last season but he chose the Pacers instead.

Can't believe MIL got him for 2.5 mill/yr while we're paying Carroll 7 mill/yr to sit on the bench smh.

[Jordan Jackson]

Spurs front office loaded with incompetence.


DeMarr Carroll signed for 3 years at 7m each and never played.
Rudy Gay signs 2 years at 14m each, yet has declined in play.

They've been shockingly bad the last 2-3 years. Not sure how their moves are flying under the radar. Any other franchise would be getting flamed by the media. No direction and it shows.

[jermaine]

If we trade Purtel... imma be pissed. But can we flip Marco an Carroll for Al Horford? Yal money nerds, let me know the salary cap situation.

[Genovaswitness]

If we trade Purtel... imma be pissed. But can we flip Marco an Carroll for Al Horford? Yal money nerds, let me know the salary cap situation.

bro are you huffing paint? I don’t think that trade would even work in 2k

Horford would be so nice on this team

[Leetonidas]

Why on earth would SA want to trade Poeltl. He is one of the few decent young players we have and probably the best defensive player on the roster. Fuckng retarded FO

[NASpurs]

If it's Poeltl, it better be Poeltl + x player + y player for good player. Hopefully x and y are our shitty players (Carroll, Forbes, Marco, Gay).

[SpurSpike]

If trade Poeltl before Bryn, we riot.

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i agree...

The only way i see possible that they are even considering trading Peoltl is that the FO may think he will be offered a massive contract in free agency that the Spurs will not be willing to match. Thus better to trade him now for something than lose him for nothing. I still don't like it though.

[Russ]

Why on earth would SA want to trade Poeltl. He is one of the few decent young players we have and probably the best defensive player on the roster. Fuckng retarded FO

On the other hand, Poeltl for Miles Turner would be a great deal for the Spurs (not that Indy would do that).

[cd021]

Maybe the Spurs never had any plan for Carroll to begin with and he was signed to be a trade piece since they had to spend the MLE anyway?

That doesn't make sense. They didn't have to spend the MLE.

[cd021]

How much do the Bucks like Matthews? Starting for them but he's only playing 24 mpg and shooting 40% from the field. I feel like he'd still be a massive upgrade over Brent despite his age and injuries. I wanted him after he got bought out last season but he chose the Pacers instead.

Can't believe MIL got him for 2.5 mill/yr while we're paying Carroll 7 mill/yr to sit on the bench smh.

Mathews is only shooting 40% because 68% of his shots are 3's. He an an above average 3pt shooter so that fine.

[exstatic]

There were already rumors that ATL was interested in Poeltl, and they seem to be chasing a center, with interest also shown in Capela and Miles Turner. The Spurs would maybe have a slight edge if they chose to move on from Jakob in that he is on a rookie deal, where the other two are already getting paid. I don't think the Spurs would give him away, but if a nice young asset were dangled, a deal could get done. I doubt anything happens, though.

[sasaint]

There were already rumors that ATL was interested in Poeltl, and they seem to be chasing a center, with interest also shown in Capela and Miles Turner. The Spurs would maybe have a slight edge if they chose to move on from Jakob in that he is on a rookie deal, where the other two are already getting paid. I don't think the Spurs would give him away, but if a nice young asset were dangled, a deal could get done. I doubt anything happens, though.

I'm with some of the other posters; I only trade Poodle if we can BOTH attach Bryn (or another piece that we need to jettison) AND get a very good player in return.

[exstatic]

I'm with some of the other posters; I only trade Poodle if we can BOTH attach Bryn (or another piece that we need to jettison) AND get a very good player in return.

I don't want to trade him at all. Where else are we going to get a 7 footer who can finish a one man fast break with a Euro Step?

I'd consider the probability of a Poeltl trade pretty small.

[lmbebo]

I think Poetl only traded if Spurs think they won't pay him this summer.

[sasaint]

I don't want to trade him at all. Where else are we going to get a 7 footer who can finish a one man fast break with a Euro Step?

I'd consider the probability of a Poeltl trade pretty small.

With all of the other players we need to jettison, if this team trades Poodle and retains the trash, it will spare me the time/misery of having to watch this team for at least the remainder of the season.

[RC_Drunkford]

I can see PATFO trading Poeltl + fillers for a starter. This would actually make a lot of sense. Poeltl is only playing 17 minutes per game, if the Spurs can get a starter at PF back for him who can play close to 30 minutes per game you do it. It would improve the team. Especially since Rudy Gay has proven to be a lot better playing small ball Center than Power Forward. Of course it depends on the return, but a move like that isn't out of the question.

[spurspl]

to get rid of these trashes spurs have to build a package with ddr/lma or young guys or picks. Anyway we got another trash.

btw to all those who think we should trade poeltl, who will be our center now and when lma leaves? Imo hes a solid center and wont be expensive so its worth to keep him

[cd021]

I can see PATFO trading Poeltl + fillers for a starter. This would actually make a lot of sense. Poeltl is only playing 17 minutes per game, if the Spurs can get a starter at PF back for him who can play close to 30 minutes per game you do it. It would improve the team. Especially since Rudy Gay has proven to be a lot better playing small ball Center than Power Forward. Of course it depends on the return, but a move like that isn't out of the question.

It really doesn't. Poeltl is a future long-term starter at center. Trading him to get an upgrade at PF to try and make the playoffs would hurt the Spurs long-term.

[gambit1990]

doesn't make sense to trade poeltl for a PF... spurs need size as it is. la shouldn't be playing the 5 as much as he does. if spurs made the POs and la was the biggest player the spurs had to deal with lebron, davis, howard, mcgee... that shît would get sad real quick.

i would trade poeltl to upgrade the C.

[RC_Drunkford]

It really doesn't. Poeltl is a future long-term starter at center. Trading him to get an upgrade at PF to try and make the playoffs would hurt the Spurs long-term.

If you can trade Poeltl for John Collins you do it. Collins can start at PF right away and is 22 locked in on a rookie deal. If you can do Poeltl + Rudy Gay for Myles Turner you do that too. I'd even add a 1st round pick to get Turner. He can shoot the 3 and play next to LaMarcus without messing up the spacing, he's young and locked in on a good long term deal as well. Both scenarios would improve the team.

And even if you lose Poeltl you can still look at doing a Bogdanovic/Dedmon deal with the Kings. I don't think they would want a lot back if you take on Dedmon with Bogdanovic.

[TDMVPDPOY]

poetl should keep him if his on a small contract

everyone over 26yrs old, needs to gtfo this team

[gambit1990]

jabroni young has been dead wrong before. but hopefully spurs move the three players in the thread tîtle... that's $27.3M.

[Dverde]

If you can trade Poeltl for John Collins you do it. Collins can start at PF right away and is 22 locked in on a rookie deal. If you can do Poeltl + Rudy Gay for Myles Turner you do that too. I'd even add a 1st round pick to get Turner. He can shoot the 3 and play next to LaMarcus without messing up the spacing, he's young and locked in on a good long term deal as well. Both scenarios would improve the team.

And even if you lose Poeltl you can still look at doing a Bogdanovic/Dedmon deal with the Kings. I don't think they would want a lot back if you take on Dedmon with Bogdanovic.

:pop: We like what we have

[r0drig0lac]

jabroni young has been dead wrong before. but hopefully spurs move the three players in the thread tîtle... that's $27.3M.

Batum + pick

[gambit1990]

if you include demar with marco, demarre, and rudy... that's $55.8M. you could definitely make a positive impact on the roster with an infusion of players making ~$56M. you could even spend that on just two big pieces to go along with murray, white, lonnie, la, poeltl, patty.

[Duncan2177]

:pop: We like what we have

A loser mentality.

[slick'81]

Nobody is taking that trash combined with rudy,tbh

[gambit1990]

hopefully the spurs get demolished tonight tbh... the camel's back needs to break...

[TimDunkem]

Nobody is taking that trash combined with rudy,tbh

Anyone is tradeable. With that said - realistically - that package's return will be very underwhelming.

[Shakril]

Trading away Poeltl only makes sense, when you already know that he wont resign with the Spurs.
He can and will be a cornerstone of the Franchise. Its not easy to find someone who is as good at protecting the rim and is mobile enough to defend even guards to a certain degree.
Only and idiot would trade him away for a Collins type of Player. You want to improve the Roster not just exchange Players, which are even worse than what you gave away.

[CGD]

Blow up mode:

- DDR for Fournier/Bamba/Okeke rights
- LMA for Whiteside and Collins
- Gay to Heat for Leonard and KZ

[RC_Drunkford]

Trading away Poeltl only makes sense, when you already know that he wont resign with the Spurs.
He can and will be a cornerstone of the Franchise. Its not easy to find someone who is as good at protecting the rim and is mobile enough to defend even guards to a certain degree.
Only and idiot would trade him away for a Collins type of Player. You want to improve the Roster not just exchange Players, which are even worse than what you gave away.

:lol you're really in love with the guy

[Shakril]

:lol you're really in love with the guy

Thats your Defense for your bad Trade Proposal? *smh*

[timtonymanu]

As long as Brent Forms’s name is not attached to trade talks, I don’t take this team seriously in making the right changes.

[TimDunkem]

Thats your Defense for your bad Trade Proposal? *smh*

No. It's just obvious that you have a stiffy for Poeltl.

[wildbill2u]

I really want to know the back story on Carroll. Collecting dust on the bench.

I can relate a story about a similar situation. Some years ago a front office type made a acquisition without notifying or getting the approval of a NBA coach. The coach was furious because he wasn't consulted and responded by never playing the new player. "No offense, Man, this is between me and the FO."

I suspect something similar happened with the new FO guy who took over for RC not understaning the realities of life. He had the power to sign, but not to make the coach play Carroll. You can bet that the new guy will do ANYTHING to get rid of Carroll to keep from losing more face for the next two years. That of course assumes he keeps the job past June.

I don't have any inside info, but there can only be one reason and this seems to work.

[sasaint]

hopefully the spurs get demolished tonight tbh... the camel's back needs to break...

I believe they will be demolished, but that won't break the Old Camel's back.

[RC_Drunkford]

Thats your Defense for your bad Trade Proposal? *smh*

it's not a bad proposal if you trade a 17 minute bench player for a player who can start at a position of need on a cheaper contract

[sasaint]

I can relate a story about a similar situation. Some years ago a front office type made a acquisition without notifying or getting the approval of a NBA coach. The coach was furious because he wasn't consulted and responded by never playing the new player. "No offense, Man, this is between me and the FO."

I suspect something similar happened with the new FO guy who took over for RC not understaning the realities of life. He had the power to sign, but not to make the coach play Carroll. You can bet that the new guy will do ANYTHING to get rid of Carroll to keep from losing more face for the next two years. That of course assumes he keeps the job past June.

I don't have any inside info, but there can only be one reason and this seems to work.

If what you are posing is true, the guy is ALREADY gone come June. Nothing will save him - unless Pop surprises me and retires.

[RC_Drunkford]

I can relate a story about a similar situation. Some years ago a front office type made a acquisition without notifying or getting the approval of a NBA coach. The coach was furious because he wasn't consulted and responded by never playing the new player. "No offense, Man, this is between me and the FO."

I suspect something similar happened with the new FO guy who took over for RC not understaning the realities of life. He had the power to sign, but not to make the coach play Carroll. You can bet that the new guy will do ANYTHING to get rid of Carroll to keep from losing more face for the next two years. That of course assumes he keeps the job past June.

I don't have any inside info, but there can only be one reason and this seems to work.

Certainly a possibility, but I doubt it. Part of the Spurs culture and what is highly regarded by them is that there is in-depth communication from top to bottom, especially between management and head coach

[mo7888]

On the other hand, Poeltl for Miles Turner would be a great deal for the Spurs (not that Indy would do that).

Gay + Poeltl for Turner works... or Carroll + Belli + Poeltl

[Maddog]

Certainly a possibility, but I doubt it. Part of the Spurs culture and what is highly regarded by them is that there is in-depth communication from top to bottom, especially between management and head coach

They've also gone out of their way to move players who have asked to move, with one exception. The whole DeMarre thing is strange.

[Leetonidas]

Pop is the POBO. I 100% guarantee he signed off on adding Carroll. Zero chance this was just a random move made without his knowledge :lol

[TimDunkem]

Nothing happens without Poop's approval.

[Mugen]

Spurs not being able to find suitors for Marco/Demarre?

I guess the Washington Mystics aren't returning their calls :lol

[JeffDuncan]

I can relate a story about a similar situation. Some years ago a front office type made a acquisition without notifying or getting the approval of a NBA coach. The coach was furious because he wasn't consulted and responded by never playing the new player. "No offense, Man, this is between me and the FO."

I suspect something similar happened with the new FO guy who took over for RC not understaning the realities of life. He had the power to sign, but not to make the coach play Carroll. ...



R. C. Buford was the GM who signed Carroll.

Carroll was signed to the contract on July 6, 2019. Buford's transition to CEO of Spurs Sports and Entertainment was effective on September 3.

No chance of blaming the new guy for that one.

[FutureMan]

Gay + Poeltl for Turner works... or Carroll + Belli + Poeltl

or Gay & Carroll for Turner & filer

[8FOR!3]

The Carroll situation is a bit bizarre. He's a proven role player in this league who's started the past couple of years and we gave him money to at least play some minutes and it's like he's never really gotten a chance. Is he that lost in practice where he just doesn't fit? Maybe, but it's kinda hard to believe considering he was one of the better players on Coach Bud's ATL team.

[313]

Tbf Carroll has been washed up for about 4 years now and was only supposed to be a warm body if Morris et al got injured or something. Obviously Morris did what he did, but that doesn't automatically mean Carroll was ever the next man up. What didn't make sense was LW not getting any burn on top of Carroll not absorbing Morris' minutes. We've been playing a man down most the year for seemingly no reason other than Pop being to afraid to experiment or deviate at all on his lineups at all in fear of being a non-playoff team. Fittingly that fear lead him to this point we're at currently, on the outside looking in, battling with young teams for an 8th seed.

In context, Carroll is net neg player in this part of career, so if Pop wasn't playing Lonnie, who's obviously a net positive, then it's not that surprising he hasn't gotten any burn. Then factor in he doesn't know the system, a SA vet like Beli and Forbes beats him out of PT in practice 10/10.

Sucks for Carroll, who knows how things would have played out without the Morris situation, but this isn't a good look, not getting minutes on a sub 500 team. Hopefully we can still get something for him despite this weird situation.

[cjw]

No sign of Beli tonight yet... He’s not in the rotation right now, and hopefully that means a move coming.

Carroll and Beli combine for $12.8mm in salary. If they’re serious about the eight seed, they may even throw in a pick with those two to bring in a rotation piece. Those two alone can bring back $17.8mm.

Gay could bring back slightly more salary.

Spurs aren’t going into tax though.

[DPG21920]

No sign of Beli tonight yet... He’s not in the rotation right now, and hopefully that means a move coming.

Carroll and Beli combine for $12.8mm in salary. If they’re serious about the eight seed, they may even throw in a pick with those two to bring in a rotation piece. Those two alone can bring back $17.8mm.

Gay could bring back slightly more salary.

Spurs aren’t going into tax though.

Zero reason to go into tax (and you can’t go into tax when you start the season under). Beli has been out of the rotation mostly before the deadline too (other than some spurts) so I would not read into that as anything imminent.

[james evans]

there is no GM in the league dumb enough to sign or trade for Bellineli at this point. NO ONE!!!!!

[pad300]

Tbf Carroll has been washed up for about 4 years now and was only supposed to be a warm body if Morris et al got injured or something. Obviously Morris did what he did, but that doesn't automatically mean Carroll was ever the next man up. What didn't make sense was LW not getting any burn on top of Carroll not absorbing Morris' minutes. We've been playing a man down most the year for seemingly no reason other than Pop being to afraid to experiment or deviate at all on his lineups at all in fear of being a non-playoff team. Fittingly that fear lead him to this point we're at currently, on the outside looking in, battling with young teams for an 8th seed.

In context, Carroll is net neg player in this part of career, so if Pop wasn't playing Lonnie, who's obviously a net positive, then it's not that surprising he hasn't gotten any burn. Then factor in he doesn't know the system, a SA vet like Beli and Forbes beats him out of PT in practice 10/10.

Sucks for Carroll, who knows how things would have played out without the Morris situation, but this isn't a good look, not getting minutes on a sub 500 team. Hopefully we can still get something for him despite this weird situation.

No, the logic here doesn't work. Carroll was supposed to be the off-season acquisition. Spurs re-worked the contract offer he'd agreed to already (that was blocking the Morris acquisition), after Morris became unexpectedly unavailable (it was this re-working that forced the Davis trade...).

[exstatic]

I can see PATFO trading Poeltl + fillers for a starter. This would actually make a lot of sense. Poeltl is only playing 17 minutes per game, if the Spurs can get a starter at PF back for him who can play close to 30 minutes per game you do it. It would improve the team. Especially since Rudy Gay has proven to be a lot better playing small ball Center than Power Forward. Of course it depends on the return, but a move like that isn't out of the question.

He's a worse defensive C than Forbes is a defensive guard. He's a frickin' turnstile that provides zero rim protection. I'd rather trade Rudy and filler for a bag of chips than try to shoe horn him into a position where he's yet another one way player in our rotation.

[exstatic]

If you can trade Poeltl for John Collins you do it. Collins can start at PF right away and is 22 locked in on a rookie deal. If you can do Poeltl + Rudy Gay for Myles Turner you do that too. I'd even add a 1st round pick to get Turner. He can shoot the 3 and play next to LaMarcus without messing up the spacing, he's young and locked in on a good long term deal as well. Both scenarios would improve the team.

And even if you lose Poeltl you can still look at doing a Bogdanovic/Dedmon deal with the Kings. I don't think they would want a lot back if you take on Dedmon with Bogdanovic.

Dedmon's not coming back here. Tends to happen when you cuss Pop when he pulls you out of the game. No way, no day.

[cool cat]

R. C. Buford was the GM who signed Carroll.

Carroll was signed to the contract on July 6, 2019. Buford's transition to CEO of Spurs Sports and Entertainment was effective on September 3.

No chance of blaming the new guy for that one.

Young also credits Wright with leading the negotiations in re-signing Rudy Gay to a two-year, $32 million deal and assisting in the orchestration of the sign-and-trade that brought DeMarre Carrol to San Antonio and sent Davis Bertans to Washington while opening up the necessary cap space to sign Marcus Morris.
https://airalamo.com/2019/07/22/san-antonio-spurs-new-gm-brian-wright/

[lmbebo]

Young also credits Wright with leading the negotiations in re-signing Rudy Gay to a two-year, $32 million deal and assisting in the orchestration of the sign-and-trade that brought DeMarre Carrol to San Antonio and sent Davis Bertans to Washington while opening up the necessary cap space to sign Marcus Morris.
https://airalamo.com/2019/07/22/san-antonio-spurs-new-gm-brian-wright/


We screwed

[gambit1990]

Young also credits Wright with leading the negotiations in re-signing Rudy Gay to a two-year, $32 million deal and assisting in the orchestration of the sign-and-trade that brought DeMarre Carrol to San Antonio and sent Davis Bertans to Washington while opening up the necessary cap space to sign Marcus Morris.
ew.

[RC_Drunkford]

Dedmon's not coming back here. Tends to happen when you cuss Pop when he pulls you out of the game. No way, no day.

that's not true. Spurs wanted to sign Dedmon this offseason, but didn't cause his price was too high

[Prose]

i still believe the spurs thought they were signing Taurean Prince. LOL

[JeffDuncan]

Young also credits Wright ...



That's a media puff piece. Some of you guys sure are gullible.

R. C. Buford signed Carroll. Fact.

[FkLA]

He's a worse defensive C than Forbes is a defensive guard.

Impossible.


Dedmon's not coming back here. Tends to happen when you cuss Pop when he pulls you out of the game. No way, no day.

Can you share the details of that story? Is that why he ultimately ended up in the doghouse? Somehow I missed it.

[BatManu20]

1224803859048140802

[sasaint]

that's not true. Spurs wanted to sign Dedmon this offseason, but didn't cause his price was too high

Really? I don't remember that at all.

[Genovaswitness]

damn dedmon is pretty alpha if he's cussing out poop :toast

[BatManu20]

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[gospursgojas]

If jazz want Marco and DeMarree contract for Ed Davis one year I’m down.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Someone may take a flyer on Marco considering he's a short term commitment. He's hit a lot of big shots over his career. Contending teams in need of shooters may roll the dice.

[TD 21]

The Bucks don't have the expendable salary to make the math work for Carroll and the Spurs should have no interest in Davis.

The former is an archetype that holds greater value leaguewide (and should on this team). I don't care about "doing right by him". Where's that gotten his organization? Meanwhile, for the most part, the ones who treat them like meat are the ones who are succeeding and viewed as destination places.

In the end, they'll probably do something stupid like this, buy out out Belinelli and that'll be it. Let's just hope they don't hand away Poeltl, too.

[EasyMoney]

Only move bucks can make is by trading ersan, but they are not trading ersan for Carroll.

[RC_Drunkford]

Really? I don't remember that at all.

Yes. That's after Pop found out Dedmon could hit 3s


Jabari Young: I’m told #Spurs have shown interest in bringing him back but the feeling is they won’t be able to afford him
(https://hoopshype.com/social/)

[sasaint]

Yes. That's after Pop found out Dedmon could hit 3s


[/URL]

That would have been a bizarre reunion - even more bizarre than Pop and Captain Jack.

[exstatic]

Yes. That's after Pop found out Dedmon could hit 3s


[/URL]

Oh, I thought you had a source. lolJabari. Dennis and Kawhi’s bitch.

[RC_Drunkford]

Oh, I thought you had a source. lolJabari. Dennis and Kawhi’s bitch.

read the title of this thread again :rolleyes

[slick'81]

I dont see anyone trading for marco but i hope im wrong.Even a 2nd rounder might suffice

[Degoat]

Could we do a Dj Wilson for Demarre carrol deal?

[TimDunkem]

Could we do a Dj Wilson for Demarre carrol deal?

:lol As if Pop would play him.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I didn't read this thread title closely the first time. "Taking offers" for Rudy Gay? There are offers? And PATFO hasn't taken one of them? Holy shit... is Mengke Bateer back in the league or something?

[phxspurfan]

I really want to know the back story on Carroll. Collecting dust on the bench.

he sucks and doesn't make the team better than any other player who knows the plays/rotations...

[cd021]

If you can trade Poeltl for John Collins you do it. Collins can start at PF right away and is 22 locked in on a rookie deal. If you can do Poeltl + Rudy Gay for Myles Turner you do that too. I'd even add a 1st round pick to get Turner. He can shoot the 3 and play next to LaMarcus without messing up the spacing, he's young and locked in on a good long term deal as well. Both scenarios would improve the team.

And even if you lose Poeltl you can still look at doing a Bogdanovic/Dedmon deal with the Kings. I don't think they would want a lot back if you take on Dedmon with Bogdanovic.

The question is, why try to improve this team when its poorly built? Moving Poeltl to try and improve the current team doesn't make sense.

Moving Jakob and a lottery pick for Turner is an overpay my opinion. Atlanta wouldn't give up Collins when they could just sign Poeltl to an offer sheet in the summer. personally, I think he's going to be a really good starting center. I'd rather keep him.

[RC_Drunkford]

I didn't read this thread title closely the first time. "Taking offers" for Rudy Gay? There are offers? And PATFO hasn't taken one of them? Holy shit... is Mengke Bateer back in the league or something?

Spurs apparently want a young asset and a first round draft pick for Rudy :lol Just delusional as usual

[RC_Drunkford]

The question is, why try to improve this team when its poorly built? Moving Poeltl to try and improve the current team doesn't make sense.

Moving Jakob and a lottery pick for Turner is an overpay my opinion. Atlanta wouldn't give up Collins when they could just sign Poeltl to an offer sheet in the summer. personally, I think he's going to be a really good starting center. I'd rather keep him.

now that they got Capela and Nene that is out the window

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1224942744008896512?s=20

:lmao :lmao :lmao

can't wait for him to be shipped to a retirement home

[EasyMoney]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1224942744008896512?s=20

:lmao :lmao :lmao

can't wait for him to be shipped to a retirement home



Better than him saying "we like what we have"

[tbdog]

Oh its a must trade this deadline. Regardless which direction they go. They must at least tinker.

[gospursgojas]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1224942744008896512?s=20

:lmao :lmao :lmao

can't wait for him to be shipped to a retirement home

CIA Pop. Huge trade coming- Carroll to Hawks for 2026 second rounder.

[TimDunkem]

CIA Pop. Huge trade coming- Carroll to Hawks for 2026 second rounder.

Honestly, joking aside, this is probably the best we can hope for.

[Ignazzz]

Pop. Old Man. It is not bad to confess „ I cant hear anything anymore”

[exstatic]

CIA Pop. Huge trade coming- Carroll to Hawks for 2026 second rounder.

You forgot top 55 protected....

[MannyIsGod]

damn dedmon is pretty alpha if he's cussing out poop :toast

Ah yes, Spurstalk where throwing a tantrum is "alpha".

[exstatic]

read the title of this thread again :rolleyes

Just because I'm reading this thread and laughing doesn't make Jabari a legit source for anything.

[MannyIsGod]

Honestly what do y'all expect Pop to tell reporters? His exactly plans and offers that they currently have? Why? It only hurts him. There's plenty to be annoyed with Pop about this season but sometimes y'all just want to fucking bitch about everything. The same people who try to be edgy AF and talk about alphas are the ones who spend every other one of their posts crying about local reporters and what Pop says to them.

[Genovaswitness]

Honestly what do y'all expect Pop to tell reporters? His exactly plans and offers that they currently have? Why? It only hurts him. There's plenty to be annoyed with Pop about this season but sometimes y'all just want to fucking bitch about everything. The same people who try to be edgy AF and talk about alphas are the ones who spend every other one of their posts crying about local reporters and what Pop says to them.

Couldn’t be me. Poop got talked to appropriately and he got scared and shipped dedmon out. same with Simmons. too alpha for the spurs and it turns out they were alpha as fuck kawhi’s friends. Now look at the team. Our “best player” cries in jack in the box parking lots

[slick'81]

Wonder if spurs are getting any legit offers for that gay guy

[BatManu20]

1225183877842526208

[TDomination]

1225183877842526208

I remember thats how it first started when they were trading Kawhi. They were demanding a lot. They demanded a lot from Lakers and from other teams. Same from the Raptors. Spurs wanted Siakam and/or OG but Raptors denied it. Then in a 2nd attempt, the raptors counter offered and for some reason the spurs took it.

So who knows what will happen here, right now their asking for a lot but maybe they'll give in at that last second.

[Mugen]

Wonder if spurs are getting any legit offers for that gay guy

Nobody is offering anything legit for Bryn

[TimDunkem]

Nobody is offering anything legit for Bryn

:lmao

[Darius Bieber]

Can we package Pop in any trade deal?

[CGD]

1224811152267411456

The Bucks would be interesting. Pretty much any player they’d send back would be an upgrade given their deep roster.

[lmbebo]

The Bucks would be interesting. Pretty much any player they’d send back would be an upgrade given their deep roster.

possible jazz trades? Doesn't look like they have many tradable pieces for him unless its a 3-way trade

[sasaint]

Spurs get: Bender, RoLo, 2nd
Bucks get: Carroll, Forbes

Spurs get: Love, protected 1st
Cavs get: Aldridge

[talkspurs]

Loves contract is horrible. We would be getting a fist back and even then no.

[Chinook]

I remember thats how it first started when they were trading Kawhi. They were demanding a lot. They demanded a lot from Lakers and from other teams. Same from the Raptors. Spurs wanted Siakam and/or OG but Raptors denied it. Then in a 2nd attempt, the raptors counter offered and for some reason the spurs took it.

So who knows what will happen here, right now their asking for a lot but maybe they'll give in at that last second.

I don't think it's anything like Kawhi. With Leonard, the team HAD to make a trade, so them refusing was only temporary. In this case, re-signing Poeltl is an option if not a preference. Also, I think it's clear now that SA wasn't asking for "too much". Teams weren't willing to offer enough. My guess is that teams are poking around thinking Poe could be had for nothing like Stan Johnson last year, and PATFO considers him to be like Kennard. Maybe ATL offered the Brooklyn first for him; maybe they didn't but seeing as the pick has a good chance to not convey this year, I could understand PATFO turning it down if offered. Worst-case, they re-sign him and still trade him later.

[sasaint]

Pop just selfishly feeding his ego while he tells everyone else to get over themselves, and sits his youth while the Spurs flounder with his pets. What a way to go out.

Yeah, Pop isn't planning on retiring.

[poopbox]

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This 0 reason for a team to do a sign and trade for Derozan. I do not know why this keeps coming up. Its not going to happen.

You would have thought the spurs learned there lesson the first time around trading aldridge where they couldn't get shit for him

[FkLA]

Nobody is offering anything legit for Bryn

:lol

[houndstooth]

:lol
stop posting same thing on 2 threads

[CGD]

I think the Spurs are motivated to deal this year, but it takes two to tango. I don’t know who wants what we’re selling honestly especially now that MIA made their move.

[sasaint]

Spurs get: Bender, RoLo, 2nd
Bucks get: Carroll, Forbes

Spurs get: Love, protected 1st
Cavs get: Aldridge

Love stretches the floor much better than anybody we currently have and would be worth the gamble if we had RoLo and Poodle as bigs.

[sasaint]

I think the Spurs are motivated to deal this year, but it takes two to tango. I don’t know who wants what we’re selling honestly especially now that MIA made their move.

If we cannot sell either LMA or Dumbmar who has been on a tear, we need a new FO. Oh, yeah, I've been saying that for several years now...

[UZER]

I think the Spurs are motivated to deal this year, but it takes two to tango. I don’t know who wants what we’re selling honestly especially now that MIA made their move.

And that, once again, is a position PATFO put themselves in. They put this team together.

[slick'81]

And that, once again, is a position PATFO put themselves in. They put this team together.


Theres no doubt about that. Traded for demar,resigned gay,mill,gasol,carroll,forbes,belli and lost bertans for nada....

[Genovaswitness]

Theres no doubt about that. Traded for demar,resigned gay,mill,gasol,carroll,forbes,belli and lost bertans for nada....

don't forget disrespecting the heir apparent by not offering the super max after surrounding him with bullshit teammates

[TheCerebral1]

This team needs to stop grasping for the hopes of an 8th seed. They are a 10th seed with this roster, and it's only going to get more ugly. Just gut, and stop pretending that this team has relevance. Face the music. The faster you get ahead of it, the faster you can turn it around. Don't be stuck in the shadow of the greatest run in professional sports. Be realistic and honestly look at the outcome. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN WITH THIS TRASH. Start thinking outside the box. Instead of duct taping over the fact this team is garbage.

[Thomas82]

Spurs get: Bender, RoLo, 2nd
Bucks get: Carroll, Forbes

Spurs get: Love, protected 1st
Cavs get: Aldridge

With Kevin Love's contract, I wouldn't do that deal unless that 1st was unprotected.

[sasaint]

With Kevin Love's contract, I wouldn't do that deal unless that 1st was unprotected.

Sure, best case. But I would settle for something lightly protected.

[Thomas82]

This team needs to stop grasping for the hopes of an 8th seed. They are a 10th seed with this roster, and it's only going to get more ugly. Just gut, and stop pretending that this team has relevance. Face the music. The faster you get ahead of it, the faster you can turn it around. Don't be stuck in the shadow of the greatest run in professional sports. Be realistic and honestly look at the outcome. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN WITH THIS TRASH. Start thinking outside the box. Instead of duct taping over the fact this team is garbage.

+1

[Thomas82]

Sure, best case. But I would settle for something lightly protected.

That could work too.

[phxspurfan]

Lol no one wants our shitty players

[slick'81]

Lol no one wants our shitty players


Bbb but teams need shooters and we have marco

[MaNu4Tres]

Expect nothing to happen. They overvalue their vets and are asking for a lot.

I think that's indicative with how Pop manages his team.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Lol no one wants our shitty players



No one wants our players for what we want in return. I'm sure we could fire sale and get rid of most of them. But no, I don't see a lot of teams willing to give up budding stars and first round picks for anything we have to offer.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Staying put With the current roster is stupid but I would prefer them to do that as opposed to trading all of (or some of) the decent young players for another veteran.

I have a feeling if they make a move it’s gonna be to get a veteran to help push the team into the playoffs this season but we are gonna lose some of the young guys to do this.

Don’t be surprised if we trade Lonnie and somebody else for Gallinari.... I can see this shit happening. Lmao

[jermaine]

Staying put With the current roster is stupid but I would prefer them to do that as opposed to trading all of (or some of) the decent young players for another veteran.

I have a feeling if they make a move it’s gonna be to get a veteran to help push the team into the playoffs this season but we are gonna lose some of the young guys to do this.

Don’t be surprised if we trade Lonnie and somebody else for Gallinari.... I can see this shit happening. Lmao

I'm cool with that. Young Bull got them jacked up knees. Plus Pop is holding him back anyway

[Dancelot]

Staying put With the current roster is stupid but I would prefer them to do that as opposed to trading all of (or some of) the decent young players for another veteran.

I have a feeling if they make a move it’s gonna be to get a veteran to help push the team into the playoffs this season but we are gonna lose some of the young guys to do this.

Don’t be surprised if we trade Lonnie and somebody else for Gallinari.... I can see this shit happening. Lmao

I would probably have to turn in my fan card over that one. DJ I’m cool with but fuck trading Lonnie

[emanueldavidginobili]

I'm cool with that. Young Bull got them jacked up knees. Plus Pop is holding him back anyway
Gallo is 31 and 9 out of his 14 seasons he’s played less than 60 games and also tore his ACL....Yeah lets trade our 21 year old with a high ceiling for Gallo. You guys are funny :lol

[slick'81]

Actively:cry fck jabari tbh