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ducks
02-09-2020, 04:43 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-budget-foreign-aid-defense-border-wall-veterans-homeland-security

Will Hunting
02-09-2020, 04:56 PM
Does that sound like a good idea, ducks?

ducks
02-09-2020, 04:57 PM
Think cutting all foreign aid is a good idea

boutons_deux
02-09-2020, 05:00 PM
USA cutting foreign is exactly what Pootin wants, USA losing influence and friends, reducing USA's "soft power".'

Pootin is laughing his ass off at how well compromised Trash and his compromised mafiya are following Pootin's dictates.

Spurminator
02-09-2020, 05:07 PM
Draining the Swamp by feeding the MIC.

Will Hunting
02-09-2020, 05:33 PM
:lol why do Conservatives always think foreign aide is some big number? It’s a drop in the bucket.

DMC
02-09-2020, 05:41 PM
I'd say get rid of the DHS, it's redundant and silly to have it, and too expensive.

boutons_deux
02-09-2020, 05:52 PM
DHS/ICE/CBP is effectively a Federal Army, violating posse comitatus, ready to kill US citizens on order, esp if some kingly Pres a lot smarter and strategic, with a much smarter mafiya, than Trash gets into the WH.but there's nobody with"standing"to challenge the militarized police state. Americans sleep walking to an authoritarian Christian supremacist one-party nightmare.

ducks
02-09-2020, 06:51 PM
If giving foreign countries money and their citizens still come in USA illegally cutting it would help
Why do liberals care more about other countries citizens then the USA legal citizens

ducks
02-09-2020, 06:52 PM
USA cutting foreign is exactly what Pootin wants, USA losing influence and friends, reducing USA's "soft power".'

Pootin is laughing his ass off at how well compromised Trash and his compromised mafiya are following Pootin's dictates.yeah Putin wants to put more money into the un

DMC
02-09-2020, 07:02 PM
DHS/ICE/CBP is effectively a Federal Army, violating posse comitatus, ready to kill US citizens on order, esp if some kingly Pres a lot smarter and strategic, with a much smarter mafiya, than Trash gets into the WH.but there's nobody with"standing"to challenge the militarized police state. Americans sleep walking to an authoritarian Christian supremacist one-party nightmare.

You're like the Alex Jones of the ST Political Forum - complete with a magazine of useless buzzwords you fling liberally to anyone who will read your shit.

pgardn
02-09-2020, 07:03 PM
So any word if this would clear our deficit?

Thread
02-09-2020, 07:16 PM
:lol why do Conservatives always think foreign aide is some big number? It’s a drop in the bucket.

Grim, but, true.

spurraider21
02-09-2020, 07:29 PM
I'd say get rid of the DHS, it's redundant and silly to have it, and too expensive.
AOC over here wanting to abolish ICE

hater
02-09-2020, 07:38 PM
:lmao retarded Trump tards actually believe that promise??

:lmao :lmao poor brainwashed idiots

koriwhat
02-09-2020, 11:20 PM
Think cutting all foreign aid is a good idea

i think it's a great idea! invest in our country and not in others finally!

koriwhat
02-09-2020, 11:22 PM
DHS/ICE/CBP is effectively a Federal Army, violating posse comitatus, ready to kill US citizens on order, esp if some kingly Pres a lot smarter and strategic, with a much smarter mafiya, than Trash gets into the WH.but there's nobody with"standing"to challenge the militarized police state. Americans sleep walking to an authoritarian Christian supremacist one-party nightmare.

you're such a drama queen but then again you are a lefty so it goes hand in hand. fucking loon!


If giving foreign countries money and their citizens still come in USA illegally cutting it would help
Why do liberals care more about other countries citizens then the USA legal citizens

:tu

TheGreatYacht
02-09-2020, 11:23 PM
DHS/ICE/CBP is effectively a Federal Army, violating posse comitatus, ready to kill US citizens on order, esp if some kingly Pres a lot smarter and strategic, with a much smarter mafiya, than Trash gets into the WH.but there's nobody with"standing"to challenge the militarized police state. Americans sleep walking to an authoritarian Christian supremacist one-party nightmare.

Why would a leftist be against cutting foreig aid? Let every country fend off and look out for themselves. At the very least, cut all foreign aid to Israel.

Spurtacular
02-10-2020, 01:36 AM
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Spurtacular
02-10-2020, 01:38 AM
You're like the Alex Jones of the ST Political Forum - complete with a magazine of useless buzzwords you fling liberally to anyone who will read your shit.

Alex Jones is entertaining. Button boy is Air America. Nobody listens.

boutons_deux
02-10-2020, 09:19 AM
Trash's SOTU was an all-about-me deplorable election rally, his National Prayer Brekky was an all-about-me deplorable election rally, his WH lawn shit was an all-about-me deplorable election rally,

his budget AGAIN breaks all his promises NEVER to Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and pre-existing conditions.

Are you rightwingnutjobs STOOPID enough not to see he doesn't give the tiniest fuck about you?

Spurs Homer
02-10-2020, 10:18 AM
:lmao retarded Trump tards actually believe that promise??

:lmao :lmao poor brainwashed idiots


on the first day trump took over-

these guys were given the bestest, free greatest healthcare the world had ever seen

so now they are believers amirite?

Trill Clinton
02-10-2020, 10:25 AM
Spaceforce is a waste of money smh.

Spurs Homer
02-10-2020, 10:32 AM
Spaceforce is a waste of money smh.

it is just a ruse to funnel billions into trump accounts

learned this from the russians

boutons_deux
02-10-2020, 11:11 AM
Trash's fantasy budget will be ripped to pieces, would sicken and kill 100Ks of Americans, won't get past a Dem Congress, and, as always, Cruelty Is The Point

Trump’s budget is based on fantasy economic growth numbers that the Fed warns will not happen

slashing trillions of dollars in funding for everything from Medicaid to food stamps to the Environmental Protection Agency —

a measure that his administration contends will be enough to balance the federal budget by 2035, even including the gigantic tax cuts for corporations and billionaires enacted at the end of 2017.

administration is assuming tax receipts will rise due to a massive, 3 percent a year sustained economic expansion that no reputable agency considers likely.

“President Trump’s budget proposals have been defined by a belief that the economy will grow significantly faster than most economists anticipate.

“The Fed, the budget office and others all see growth falling below 2 percent annually in that time.

By 2030, the administration predicts the economy will be more than 15 percent larger than forecasters at the budget office do.”

the administration also bases its forecast on the assumption that the Federal Reserve will not raise interest rates in response to their hypothetical 3 percent sustained growth, which in reality economists say they almost certainly would.

Higher interest rates would mean the government’s interest payments on Treasury bonds would increase, making deficits larger.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trumps-budget-is-based-on-fantasy-economic-growth-numbers-that-the-fed-warns-will-not-happen/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

iow, Trash's destructive, sadistic budget is yet another HUGE FUCKING LIE

TSA
02-10-2020, 02:02 PM
Spaceforce is a waste of money smh.

Exclusive: Strange Russian Spacecraft Shadowing U.S. Spy Satellite, General Says

"A pair of Russian satellites are tailing a multibillion-dollar U.S. spy satellite hundreds of miles above the Earth’s surface, a top U.S. military commander tells TIME, underscoring a growing threat to America’s dominance in space-based espionage and a potentially costly new chapter in Washington’s decades-long competition with Moscow.

Gen. John “Jay” Raymond, commander of the newly minted U.S. Space Force, says the Russian spacecraft began maneuvering toward the American satellite shortly after being launched into orbit in November, at times creeping within 100 miles of it. “We view this behavior as unusual and disturbing,” Raymond says. “It has the potential to create a dangerous situation in space.” Raymond says the U.S. government has expressed concern to Moscow through diplomatic channels.

The confrontation marks the first time the U.S. military has publicly identified a direct threat to a specific American satellite by an adversary. The incident parallels Russia’s terrestrial encounters with the U.S. and its allies, including close calls between soldiers, fighter jets and warships around the world. Observers worry that space is now offering a new theater for unintentional escalation of hostilities between the long-time adversaries."



"However, the satellites, identified as Cosmos 2542 and Cosmos 2543, appeared to be carrying out another mission. By mid-January, they were sidling near the American satellite, identified as USA 245, known to space experts as a KH-11.

The U.S. satellite, part of a reconnaissance constellation codenamed Keyhole/CRYSTAL, is operated by the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the secretive intelligence agency headquartered in Chantilly Va. Although the NRO refuses to comment on the large school bus-sized satellites, the KH-11’s capabilities are often compared by experts in the field to the Hubble Space Telescope. Instead of staring into the vast expanse of space, however, the satellites’ sensors and cameras are focused into the heart of foreign adversaries’ top-secret military installations

A KH-11 satellite, known as USA 224, is widely believed by analysts to have taken the image of Iran’s Imam Khomeini Space Center that President Donald Trump posted to Twitter in August. The photo was so detailed, you could make out the Farsi characters written along the edge of the launchpad. The KH-11 constellation, which consists of four satellites that maintain constant Earth observation, operate in a polar orbit above the rotating Earth, enabling them to cover its entire surface."

https://time.com/5779315/russian-spacecraft-spy-satellite-space-force/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-share-article

boutons_deux
02-10-2020, 02:12 PM
Exclusive: Strange Russian Spacecraft Shadowing U.S. Spy Satellite, General Says

"A pair of Russian satellites are tailing a multibillion-dollar U.S. spy satellite hundreds of miles above the Earth’s surface, a top U.S. military commander tells TIME, underscoring a growing threat to America’s dominance in space-based espionage and a potentially costly new chapter in Washington’s decades-long competition with Moscow.

Gen. John “Jay” Raymond, commander of the newly minted U.S. Space Force, says the Russian spacecraft began maneuvering toward the American satellite shortly after being launched into orbit in November, at times creeping within 100 miles of it. “We view this behavior as unusual and disturbing,” Raymond says. “It has the potential to create a dangerous situation in space.” Raymond says the U.S. government has expressed concern to Moscow through diplomatic channels.

The confrontation marks the first time the U.S. military has publicly identified a direct threat to a specific American satellite by an adversary. The incident parallels Russia’s terrestrial encounters with the U.S. and its allies, including close calls between soldiers, fighter jets and warships around the world. Observers worry that space is now offering a new theater for unintentional escalation of hostilities between the long-time adversaries."



"However, the satellites, identified as Cosmos 2542 and Cosmos 2543, appeared to be carrying out another mission. By mid-January, they were sidling near the American satellite, identified as USA 245, known to space experts as a KH-11.

The U.S. satellite, part of a reconnaissance constellation codenamed Keyhole/CRYSTAL, is operated by the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the secretive intelligence agency headquartered in Chantilly Va. Although the NRO refuses to comment on the large school bus-sized satellites, the KH-11’s capabilities are often compared by experts in the field to the Hubble Space Telescope. Instead of staring into the vast expanse of space, however, the satellites’ sensors and cameras are focused into the heart of foreign adversaries’ top-secret military installations

A KH-11 satellite, known as USA 224, is widely believed by analysts to have taken the image of Iran’s Imam Khomeini Space Center that President Donald Trump posted to Twitter in August. The photo was so detailed, you could make out the Farsi characters written along the edge of the launchpad. The KH-11 constellation, which consists of four satellites that maintain constant Earth observation, operate in a polar orbit above the rotating Earth, enabling them to cover its entire surface."

https://time.com/5779315/russian-spacecraft-spy-satellite-space-force/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-share-article

Raymond spewing propaganda promoting his Space Force corporate welfare bullshit.

what's he gonna do? shoot down the Russian stuff? will he do anything at all?

boutons_deux
02-10-2020, 02:22 PM
Anyway, Russia is America's best friend, Trash promotes improved relations with harmless Pootin

Pootin says it was not him who cracked America, it was Ukraine

So what's the problem with Russian stuff trailing American satellites?

If there is a problem, what's the solution? how many $10Bs does the MIC want for the solution?

RandomGuy
02-10-2020, 03:19 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-budget-foreign-aid-defense-border-wall-veterans-homeland-security

SO you are all for massive cuts to social security and medicare? Have fun selling that. :rollin

Trill Clinton
02-10-2020, 03:41 PM
Despite $4.4 Trillion in Spending Cuts, Trump's Budget Won't Balance Until 2035


On the campaign trail in 2016, President Donald Trump promised to eliminate the national debt in eight years. On Monday, he will propose a budget that won't even balance for another 15 years—a clear admission that he will leave the federal government's finances in a more precarious state than he found them.


Overall, federal spending would climb from $4.6 trillion next year to more than $6.5 trillion in 2030. The proposed domestic spending cuts in this year's budget are hardly enough to balance out the spending increases that Congress has passed and Trump has approved in recent years.


Trump's proposal would cut the federal deficit from over $1 trillion in the current fiscal year to a mere $966 billion next year—nearly 50 percent higher than the $666 billion deficit Trump inherited from President Barack Obama in 2017. Trump's budget would have the federal government operating in the red until 2035, the Journal reports.


It's important to keep in mind that all of this is likely the rosiest possible scenario for the federal budget. The budget proposal assumes 3 percent annual growth, a number that has not been achieved since the Bush administration—not even in the immediate aftermath of Trump's tax cuts, which briefly revved the economy—and one that far exceeds the Congressional Budget Office's estimated growth rate of 1.7 percent over the next decade.


The problem with all that is that a large and growing national debt reduces economic growth. The CBO projects that the average American household will lose between $2,000 and $6,000 in annual wealth by 2040 if the current trajectory continues. It also says America's GDP will shrink by 2 percent over the next two decades if current policies continue and the debt keeps growing.




But short-term thinking dominates Washington these days. And Trump, despite his outsider status, has quickly acclimated to the consensus political view that fixing the national debt will have to be the next president's problem.

boutons_deux
02-10-2020, 07:33 PM
Trump administration comes up with yet another way to destroy Medicaid and rural health care

The Trump administration is determined to destroy Medicaid, chipping away at it from all angles.

From work requirements to block grants,

Trump is using the regulatory tools at hand—

largely in defiance of Medicaid law—to demolish the program.

Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Seema Verma was sneaking out another one, the

Medicaid Fiscal Accountability Regulation that could drastically reduce the federal funding contribution to states.

That could mean cuts as high as $11 billion annually in the state of Texas (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/medicare-change-houston-texas-hospitals-billion-15042920.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20 (Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral) alone.

That's $11 billion, in one year, in one state.

Nationwide, it could mean up to $31 billion lost to hospitals across the country.

It would mean $500 million, annually, lost to hospitals just in Houston.

It would probably cost rural hospitals across the state a yearly $900 million, when rural hospitals are already in jeopardy.

The Texas Organization for Rural and Community Hospitals (TORCH) has done an analysis finding that

nearly half—46%—of the state's real hospitals are already running at a loss, and

26 of them have been shuttered in the last decade.

That's in large part a result of

Texas refusing to take Medicaid expansion :lol to spite the Magic Knitter

under the Affordable Care Act, and

the state has experienced the highest rate of rural hospital closures in the nation.

This rule would result in even more closures.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1918179

Just more evidence that shitbag Texas Repugs make Texas a shithole, shitting even on rural Texans.

Winehole23
02-12-2020, 09:13 AM
I'd say get rid of the DHS, it's redundant and silly to have it, and too expensive.

Hear, hear.

Unfortunatately, the GOP can't help but characterize any cuts to police or miltary spending as weakness and iresponsibility. Dems are much the same.