Spurs Complete Buyout with DeMarre Carroll

[emanueldavidginobili]

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[Genovaswitness]

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fucking joke of a team. how much money is this team throwing away yearly? aren’t we still paying gasol?

[K...]

woot wooot woot, now derozan pleasw

[jeebus]

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I'm going to laugh if he becomes a contributor. Even if he doesn't, I'm glad he's off this cancer of a team.

[DPG21920]

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Embarrassing. Not only cap wise but the fact we pay him to play for a division opponent :lol

[koriwhat]

i liked carroll years past and am just as confused as the rest of you as to why he's gotten so little time with the spurs. what a waste the FO is these days.

[DPG21920]

But they did right by him in the end :tu

[emanueldavidginobili]

I hope he goes to a team and contributes tbh.

[gambit1990]

it'll be really interesting to see the level that he plays at.

[MoSpur02]

I'm actually happy for the guy. Super weird situation. Not sure what occurred as to why he didn't get much playing and then eventually not even suiting up. He remained a professional through it all and I give him a lot of credit.

[DeRozan m8]

This front office is a fvcking joke...drunk cunts

[Genovaswitness]

stupid fucking team continues to rack up cap hits :lmao

[K...]

stupid fucking team continues to rack up cap hits :lmao

Not like anything is going to happen with capspace. They improve through the draft and only the draft

[timtonymanu]

Glad for Carroll. What a joke of a front office :lol

[Genovaswitness]

Not like anything is going to happen with capspace. They improve through the draft and only the draft


you know what you’re right. might as well have $40mil of dead cap hits the way this garbage fucking tram is managed

[spurraider21]

:lmao and so ends the debacle which cost us davis bertans for literally nothing

[Coach X]

Spurs lost Bertans, lost Morris, lose Carroll. They have nothing in compensation but they must spend the money. Terrible move.

[Genovaswitness]

Spurs lost Bertans, lost Morris, lose Carroll. They have nothing in compensation but they must spend the money. Terrible move.

fantastic ending to the cuckovich era :toast

[cd021]

Fucking embarrassing. We're paying him pretty much all of his money to play for a in-state rival.

[Robz4000]

:lol PATFO have become such a fucking embarrassment

[Chillen]

This front office is a fvcking joke...drunk cunts

Tim, Manu, Kawhi and Tony helped mask it all tbh. Spurs have made some absolutely terrible FO decisions the past few seasons.

[Leetonidas]

:lmao and so ends the debacle which cost us davis bertans for literally nothing

Not nothing. 14.5 million of dead salary :lmao

[FkLA]

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Embarrassing. Not only cap wise but the fact we pay him to play for a division opponent :lol

Wait, so he's getting all his guaranteed money? :lol

[Mugen]

What an abortion of a front office led by the senile, stubborn old man :lol

[Spurtacular]

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Embarrassing. Not only cap wise but the fact we pay him to play for a division opponent :lol

I haven't been following DC this season. What happened here?

[TD 21]

But they did right by him in the end :tu

Yeah, wouldn't want to hurt their pristine reputation, which keeps paying off . . . as we all know, treating players like pieces of meat has really hurt the Celtics, Rockets, Raptors, etc.

[DPG21920]

I'm actually happy for the guy. Super weird situation. Not sure what occurred as to why he didn't get much playing and then eventually not even suiting up. He remained a professional through it all and I give him a lot of credit.

Well said. This isn’t on him at all. He handled it perfect. Spurs looking inept

[Mugen]

But they did right by him in the end :tu

Funny how they only seem to do right for garbage ass players.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, wouldn't want to hurt their pristine reputation, which keeps paying off . . . as we all know, treating players like pieces of meat has really hurt the Celtics, Rockets, Raptors, etc.

Spurs aren’t contending and Carroll isn’t so good he puts anyone over the top. No reason to hold him hostage when Sa messed up

[Genovaswitness]

I would’ve let this clown rot on the bench

[Keepin' it real]

But they did right by him in the end :tu

What the hell kind of comment is this?

[DPG21920]

Wait, so he's getting all his guaranteed money? :lol

Still working on finding out the details. But he gave money back. Just depends on how much. What seems to be the case is he gave back some of what was owed this year but year 2 and 3 remain.

Not sure if that is all they can do or if they can give up year 3 money but consensus is that’s not legal under cba to do that. It’s only current year money (but not sure honestly)

[K...]

I haven't been following DC this season. What happened here?

Nobody knows. He didn't get playing time, whined publicly in a classy way, and now we're here. Like with kawhi we'llprobably never know the reasons

[baseline bum]

Whatever Holt kid owns the team now needs to go and tell Brian Wright to fuck off back home.

[DPG21920]

What the hell kind of comment is this?

You have a problem with it?

[sasaint]

Makes 12:01 seem like sweet deal.

[DPG21920]

Funny how they only seem to do right for garbage ass players.

One of those things where doing right might not get you anything but not doing it could harm you.

[baseline bum]

So this offseason was essentially trade Bertans to give more money to someone to go play for the Rockets?

[sasaint]

Whatever Holt kid owns the team now needs to go and tell Brian Wright to fuck off back home.

Brian Wright? Why shoot the errand boy?

[Dex]

I still just want to know what happened. Just saying that they "didn't gel" doesn't cut it...there are reasons shit like that happens.

Did he run over Pop's dog or what?

[Spurtacular]

So this offseason was essentially trade Bertans to give more money to someone to go play for the Rockets?

Damn, I hope there's a lottery silver lining to all this bumbling.

[K...]

So this offseason was essentially trade Bertans to give more money to someone to go play for the Rockets?

Scola part 2 imho

[Leetonidas]

I can't wait to see the abortion of an offseason spurs will have this year tbh. Maybe we can pay some other player to go the Lakers mid season :lmao

[K...]

The people I want to know about are DeRozan and LMA. Did they not stuck up for Carrol? Or did they just not speak up? You expect some leadership and ownership from your best players but they're both so passive!

[Das Texan]

Whatever Holt kid owns the team now needs to go and tell Brian Wright to fuck off back home.

insanely idiotic move now especially.

[Dex]

I can't wait to see the abortion of an offseason spurs will have this year tbh. Maybe we can pay some other player to go the Lakers mid season :lmao

The real kicker here is instead of Morris getting paid more to waste away in New York, he will be playing with Nephew to contend for a fucking championship while we lost Bertans and are paying Carroll not to play for us.

[Dex]

Perhaps the only silver lining here is now that Carroll isn't a Spur anymore, maybe we will get some more details on what went down other than the usual fluff they have been selling to the S.A. media.

[RD2191]

:lol Spurms

[sasaint]

The real kicker here is instead of Morris getting paid more to waste away in New York, he will be playing with Nephew to contend for a fucking championship while we lost Bertans and are paying Carroll not to play for us.

Trifecta!!!

[TD 21]

Spurs aren’t contending and Carroll isn’t so good he puts anyone over the top. No reason to hold him hostage when Sa messed up

I get it. I'm just saying, let's not pretend this is going to do something for them.

Either way, they'd still be viewed as a mix of a laughing stock and irrelevant outpost.

[sasaint]

I get it. I'm just saying, let's not pretend this is going to do something for them.

Either way, they'd still be viewed as a mix of a laughing stock and irrelevant outpost.

True story. But I hope DeMarre eventually reveals the details of the real story.

[**BUSTA**]

The real kicker here is instead of Morris getting paid more to waste away in New York, he will be playing with Nephew to contend for a fucking championship while we lost Bertans and are paying Carroll not to play for us.

This whole season (and preseason) has been a Master Class (taught by PATFO) in the art of the Clusterfuck with Pop as Master Clusterfucker.

[sasaint]

This whole season (and preseason) has been a Master Class (taught by PATFO) in the art of the Clusterfuck with Pop as Master Clusterfucker.

You can re-enroll for the Ph.D. Class next season. I can sense it; the Old Asshole is gonna come back.

[gambit1990]

carroll gonna drop 20 points on the spurs when they play the rockets next?

[Dverde]

Gotta respect Morey for closing deals. Guy treats players like tokens, but guys still sign there every year.

[sasaint]

carroll gonna drop 20 points on the spurs when they play the rockets next?

That would be just deserts!

[baseline bum]

insanely idiotic move now especially.

Can't wait for this summer when they give DePression a Gasol contract.

[NASpurs]

This is like when the dad gives his multi-million business that he build from the ground-up to his son and the business goes belly up in a few years.

What a fucking mess of an organization. Who's the retard with the steering wheel?

[KobesAchilles]

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Seriously though, when was the last time PATFO made a good move. Gotta be like 3 seasons now of shit

[timtonymanu]

It’s likely he pulled a lowkey Stephen Jackson in practice somehow. Probably was astounded at why Brent Forms was getting so many minutes and didn’t want to be part of the shitshow. :lol

[K...]

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.They RECRUITED ERKLE here from Detroit, and what a dumpster fire that culture and specifically the Front office has been for decades.

it's hard being GM when ownership demands you reach the playoffs without going over the cap. I don't doubt wright is not the best GM but the ownership has been cheap for a long long time and it's not going to be great time going forward. Hence wright doing desperate thing that backfire.

[TimDunkem]

This FO sucks. Been calling it for years.

[8FOR!3]

Clearly if we weren’t going to play him this was the right thing to do, I’m glad it didn’t end as ugly as it could have on either side. We’ll see if he actually has anything left in the tank, although that wouldn’t explain if he just didn’t understand the system. Either way it’s another loss for Brian Wright who’s arguably best move (freeing cap space and signing Marcus Morris) miserably backfired on him. That one wasn’t his fault but he is responsible for other mistakes such as shipping Kawhi Leonard to a team who ended up winning the championship, when he could have gotten back Brandon Ingram in return instead.

[slick'81]

What a fucking joke

[TimDunkem]

Clearly if we weren’t going to play him this was the right thing to do, I’m glad it didn’t end as ugly as it could have on either side. We’ll see if he actually has anything left in the tank, although that wouldn’t explain if he just didn’t understand the system. Either way it’s another loss for Brian Wright who’s arguably best move (freeing cap space and signing Marcus Morris) miserably backfired on him. That one wasn’t his fault but he is responsible for other mistakes such as shipping Kawhi Leonard to a team who ended up winning the championship, when he could have gotten back Brandon Ingram in return instead.

For the millionth time, the GM position in the Spurs is merely a secretary position for Popovich who actually pulls the strings. How long have you been a Spurs fan?

[Collins21]

This FO sucks. Been calling it for years.

Yeah they have been bad but like you always do if they turn it around you're just going to lie and say "I never said that"

[DPG21920]

Yeah - I am very skeptical of Wright. His background and what little we know of his vision/ability so far is underwhelming. Beyond that, someone with such little pedigree being pegged to take the most successful franchise in the nba the last 20+ years into uncharted territory is definitely eyebrow raising.

Hoping for the best. He’s obviously hamstringed some by Pop/RC and hard to pin anything directly to him but man, this is such a damn critical juncture and I really hope he’s the right man for the job.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah they have been bad but like you always do if they turn it around you're just going to lie and say "I never said that"

Will you quit following me around? It's almost getting creepy. Ironic that you do though considering you always forget what I say and attribute other's takes to me all the time.

And, no, they're not turning it around until the old man leaves. That IS something I've been saying for a long time and, if they do when he's gone, I would still have been right. So, no, fuck off.

[ginobilized]

Maybe we can sign another guard?
Spurs have a tough time getting and retaining forwards. Losing 3 in season has to be some sort of record, even by Spurs standards.

I wish Presti was still in our FO. He's sharp. Even when it looks like he's made a mess, he recovers and it looks like a great plan. Sean Marks would've been worth keeping, too.

[ginobilized]

Does this mean Tank-a-thon 2020 is on?!?!

[GAustex]

Drunk senile poop cauterizing his mistake.
He needs to step down. I wonder how the Holts feel about poop pissing away their $ with NOTHING to show for it.

[TimDunkem]

Drunk senile poop cauterizing his mistake.
He needs to step down. I wonder how the Holts feel about poop pissing away their $ with NOTHING to show for it.

They still paying Gasol? :lol

Edit: THEY ARE. :lmao

[Chinook]

Gotta hope for something like all of 2021-2022 and half of 2020-2021.

[DPG21920]

Gotta hope for something like all of 2021-2022 and half of 2020-2021.

Is that allowed? Seems to be some confusion on whether or not you can do that. Looks like the cap hit will be all 3 years meaning that is not allowed?

[sasaint]

For the millionth time, the GM position in the Spurs is merely a secretary position for Popovich who actually pulls the strings. How long have you been a Spurs fan?

I don't keep close enough tabs, and I doubt you do, either, but are the guys who want to blame Brian Wright all Pop slurpers? Very transparent deflection tactic...

[sasaint]

Yeah - I am very skeptical of Wright. His background and what little we know of his vision/ability so far is underwhelming. Beyond that, someone with such little pedigree being pegged to take the most successful franchise in the nba the last 20+ years into uncharted territory is definitely eyebrow raising.

Hoping for the best. He’s obviously hamstringed some by Pop/RC and hard to pin anything directly to him but man, this is such a damn critical juncture and I really hope he’s the right man for the job.

Stacking up for Brian Wright to be the fall guy.

[Chinook]

Is that allowed? Seems to be some confusion on whether or not you can do that. Looks like the cap hit will be all 3 years meaning that is not allowed?

I mean that he would give up all of his 2021 salary, not that he'd get it all. It's possible that buyouts don't let players change multiple years. The arbitration ruling originally only applied to the final year, and I don't recall players altering it beyond that (though maybe Larry Sanders did back in the day). If the option was not there to change 2020-2021, I'd've kept him.

[r0drig0lac]

scary

[r0drig0lac]

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Seriously though, when was the last time PATFO made a good move. Gotta be like 3 seasons now of shit

2011 draft

[Das Texan]

Can't wait for this summer when they give DePression a Gasol contract.


Cannot wait.

Will make me start yearning for the mid 80s all over agian.

[MoSpur02]

Spurs have to move Aldridge and hope for a sign and trade with Derozan. We all know free agents don't usually see San Antonio as a top destination so the only way to hope for talent is by trades and draft.

[UZER]

Carroll signs with the Clippers in 5...4...3...2...

[Collins21]

Will you quit following me around? It's almost getting creepy. Ironic that you do though considering you always forget what I say and attribute other's takes to me all the time.

And, no, they're not turning it around until the old man leaves. That IS something I've been saying for a long time and, if they do when he's gone, I would still have been right. So, no, fuck off.

GTFOH I call bullshit from everyone with low basketball you're not the only one I call out their shit takes.

[TimDunkem]

GTFOH I call bullshit from everyone with low basketball you're not the only one I call out their shit takes.

You normally get that wrong too. My quote page is filled with them. Your obsession is noted though. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Spurs have to move Aldridge and hope for a sign and trade with Derozan. We all know free agents don't usually see San Antonio as a top destination so the only way to hope for talent is by trades and draft.

But, according to all the sniffers, the draft is weak and not worth tanking for despite not being in play for the playoffs anyway.

[Collins21]

You normally get that wrong too. My quote page is filled with them. Your obsession is noted though. :lol

Nah I'm good from now on I'll post nothing directed at you since acting like lady is what you tend to do.

[TimDunkem]

Nah I'm good from now on I'll post nothing directed at you since acting like lady is what you tend to do.

I'm sure you'll misquote me soon enough. :lol Obsessed.

[slick'81]

Belli remains

[TimDunkem]

I don't keep close enough tabs, and I doubt you do, either, but are the guys who want to blame Brian Wright all Pop slurpers? Very transparent deflection tactic...

Usually seems to be, but there is a large contingent of casuals who still believe that the GM is whoever listed under that title rather than the old man who has his wrinkled hands around the throat of the franchise.

[timtonymanu]

Good times when we were excited about Morris/Carroll guarding Nephew and LeBron. Now it's just Gay and Trey fucking Lyles :lol

[murpjf88]

:lmao and so ends the debacle which cost us davis bertans for literally nothing

They still have Trey Lyles.

[TimDunkem]

They still have Trey Lyles.

A shit sandwich is better than nothing, I guess.

[SpurPadre]

What a nightmare of a season...

[weeks]

This is like when the dad gives his multi-million business that he build from the ground-up to his son and the business goes belly up in a few years.

What a fucking mess of an organization. Who's the retard with the steering wheel?

at least the lakers always knew they'd be back sooner or later. san antonio could be worse than the kings for 25 years

[RD2191]

I wonder if there's some sort of power struggle between RC/Pop and the holt kids/gm?

[Chomag]

Just more proof to me that Timmy and the Big 3 didn't win because of Pop and FO, they won in spite of them. What a joke...

[ElNono]

PATFO used to pull stunts like this all the time, tbh... remember Van Exel, T-Mac, etc... back in the day it all got swept under the Timmy-Manu greatness...

Everything is more amplified when you're a shitty team.

[tenbeersbold]

Apparently Carroll was too stupid to learn Pop's playbook.

"We may never know completely why things didn’t work, but among other things, he reportedly had trouble leaning the schemes"

In other news,shit product gets shitty ratings LMFAO
The player empowerment era is killing the NBA:spin
"Local ratings for 27 of the NBA’s 30 teams (with the Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, and Toronto Raptors not included) are in at the league’s All-Star Break, and the news is not very good for the Association.

According to the ratings data compiled by the Sports Business Journal (https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2020/02/17/Ratings-and-Research/NBA-ratings.aspx), those 27 teams are down 13% on their local RSNs, with 14 of the 27 experiencing declines in viewership. This news follows a similar trend to the national landscape (https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-viewership-remains-down-compared-to-last-year-heading-into-all-star-weekend.html), where ratings have dropped by 12%, from 10% on ESPN to to 13% on TNT and 16% on ABC.


The local story for the NBA isn’t encouraging. The Golden State Warriors, who have dominated the NBA’s local ratings for the last few years, saw their ratings decline by a staggering 66% on NBC Sports Bay Area. That’s the second-largest decline in the league (behind only the Denver Nuggets, down 72% on Altitude, which is beset by carriage issues), and has also knocked the Dubs out of the league’s top five overall. No team is averaging even a 4.00 rating in their local market, and just seven (Spurs, Bucks, 76ers, Thunder, Lakers, Blazers, Celtics) have hit 3.00. 11 teams can’t even get a 1.00 rating locally, including both New York teams (0.85 for the Knicks on MSG and 0.45, the league’s third-lowest mark, for the Nets on YES) and the Clippers (whose 86% rise to a 0.97 on Fox Sports Prime Ticket is the league’s highest local increase)."

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-ratings-are-down-13-locally-and-the-warriors-have-taken-a-shocking-66-local-hit.html

[Killakobe81]

Lol Clippers rise to 1%?!
Shitty Spurs season doing better than Clippers best start ever. Nephew left a loyal ass (smaller market) fan base (two if them actually) for a JV big market team... Sad for Spurs/Raptors...

[Harry Callahan]

I would not be upset if Brian Wright and Pop "went away" somehow by next summer.

Wright role as the Spurs "GM" reminds me of the situation Greg Fenves set up when he arrived as UT President. He drove the hiring of Shaka Smart - the program has imploded and the guy has been allowed to stay as coach five seasons? Smart is not very good at his job a terrible hire by Texas. I'm not sure Tom Herman is the answer either after three seasons.

The Spurs and UT need to understand that hiring the most talented and competent person available at the time needs to get the job. It is a meritocracy when Wins and Losses tell the story.

When you shell out a three year guaranteed contract and that person does not even see the court in the first season of that contract and is cut from the team, there is a severe lack of communication, coordination, and focus between the coaching staff and the front office. Someone needs to answer for the Carroll contract. You can't make this kind of mistake and continue in your role in my opinion. It shows a lack of competence. Wright will be allowed to stay, because Pop and RC are not really accountable for their actions right now due to past success. The clock should be ticking on all of them now.

[Harry Callahan]

Apparently Carroll was too stupid to learn Pop's playbook.

"We may never know completely why things didn’t work, but among other things, he reportedly had trouble leaning the schemes"

In other news,shit product gets shitty ratings LMFAO
The player empowerment era is killing the NBA:spin
"Local ratings for 27 of the NBA’s 30 teams (with the Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, and Toronto Raptors not included) are in at the league’s All-Star Break, and the news is not very good for the Association.

According to the ratings data compiled by the Sports Business Journal (https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2020/02/17/Ratings-and-Research/NBA-ratings.aspx), those 27 teams are down 13% on their local RSNs, with 14 of the 27 experiencing declines in viewership. This news follows a similar trend to the national landscape (https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-viewership-remains-down-compared-to-last-year-heading-into-all-star-weekend.html), where ratings have dropped by 12%, from 10% on ESPN to to 13% on TNT and 16% on ABC.


The local story for the NBA isn’t encouraging. The Golden State Warriors, who have dominated the NBA’s local ratings for the last few years, saw their ratings decline by a staggering 66% on NBC Sports Bay Area. That’s the second-largest decline in the league (behind only the Denver Nuggets, down 72% on Altitude, which is beset by carriage issues), and has also knocked the Dubs out of the league’s top five overall. No team is averaging even a 4.00 rating in their local market, and just seven (Spurs, Bucks, 76ers, Thunder, Lakers, Blazers, Celtics) have hit 3.00. 11 teams can’t even get a 1.00 rating locally, including both New York teams (0.85 for the Knicks on MSG and 0.45, the league’s third-lowest mark, for the Nets on YES) and the Clippers (whose 86% rise to a 0.97 on Fox Sports Prime Ticket is the league’s highest local increase)."

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-ratings-are-down-13-locally-and-the-warriors-have-taken-a-shocking-66-local-hit.html

The Spurs fan base is actually still pretty loyal at the moment - probably due to the sustained success of the Spurs history in the NBA (only three and soon to be four losing seasons). Still, teams not in the top ten markets of the league know that their teams now have NO CHANCE of sustained success with the player "empowerment" (Collusion) that results in the player migration to the large west coast and east coast markets. Why watch the games when you are a casual fan? The product has devolved into a game of three point horse with no defense allowed. Players don't fulfill their contracts and demand to be traded when less than half their contractual time has been completed. Now the players will only sign short term contracts so they can put a gun to the head of the franchise they did sign with. Please let me know of a top shelf player in the NBA right now that is actually a decent person. The kid in Milwaukee (Gianis A.) seems like a good dude, but so many of the top shelf players have a total lack of self awareness - we don't really have to call those guys out anymore. We know who they are. A bunch of jerks for sure.

[DPG21920]

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[El Santo]

I bet in the offseason they will extend derozan, over pay forbes and let white and poetl walk..

[8FOR!3]

The Spurs fan base is actually still pretty loyal at the moment - probably due to the sustained success of the Spurs history in the NBA (only three and soon to be four losing seasons). Still, teams not in the top ten markets of the league know that their teams now have NO CHANCE of sustained success with the player "empowerment" (Collusion) that results in the player migration to the large west coast and east coast markets. Why watch the games when you are a casual fan? The product has devolved into a game of three point horse with no defense allowed. Players don't fulfill their contracts and demand to be traded when less than half their contractual time has been completed. Now the players will only sign short term contracts so they can put a gun to the head of the franchise they did sign with. Please let me know of a top shelf player in the NBA right now that is actually a decent person. The kid in Milwaukee (Gianis A.) seems like a good dude, but so many of the top shelf players have a total lack of self awareness - we don't really have to call those guys out anymore. We know who they are. A bunch of jerks for sure.

It's a pretty bad look for GSW fans to just completely stop watching the team this year bc their bad. Spurs' fan base deserves a little credit for continuing to support the team through the first truly bad year in 20+ years. Wonder if the Nets get more interest than the Knicks on TV when Kevin Durant plays next year.

[tbdog]

There are lots of semi sports fans that just support winning teams because it's entertaining. Warriors are no exception. Also Curry is easily marketable. Not only is his talent generational defining, but he is also super religious, has an attractive wife, family - the Yanks love that. And he isn't playing.

[SpurSpike]

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I bet in the offseason they will extend derozan, over pay forbes and let white and poetl walk..

I'm almost sure they will overpay Forbes and very scared that they will not pay White and Poeltl. I don't mind a DeRozan extension since he at least has trade value.

[jermaine]

It's time for Pop an his crew to step down. Its Becky's time.

[weeks]

"had trouble learning the schemes" isn't this a lowkey way of saying a player is washed or can't keep up in practice.
they don't want to admit they fucked the pooch again, with no rubber. surreal time to be a Spursfan

[SAGirl]

What a waste of money.

[TimDunkem]

The Spurs fan base is actually still pretty loyal at the moment - probably due to the sustained success of the Spurs history in the NBA (only three and soon to be four losing seasons). Still, teams not in the top ten markets of the league know that their teams now have NO CHANCE of sustained success with the player "empowerment" (Collusion) that results in the player migration to the large west coast and east coast markets. Why watch the games when you are a casual fan? The product has devolved into a game of three point horse with no defense allowed. Players don't fulfill their contracts and demand to be traded when less than half their contractual time has been completed. Now the players will only sign short term contracts so they can put a gun to the head of the franchise they did sign with. Please let me know of a top shelf player in the NBA right now that is actually a decent person. The kid in Milwaukee (Gianis A.) seems like a good dude, but so many of the top shelf players have a total lack of self awareness - we don't really have to call those guys out anymore. We know who they are. A bunch of jerks for sure.

Giannis has already mentioned teaming up with his brothers in LA. :lol I don't know if he was being facetious, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't.

[JeffDuncan]

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Embarrassing. Not only cap wise but the fact we pay him to play for a division opponent :lol


Wait, so he's getting all his guaranteed money? :lol


Since it's after January 10, Carroll's full salary for this season has to be paid, I believe. The CBA guarantees a season's salary after Jan 10. Both the years 2 and 3 are probably negotiable, depending on exact details of the contract.

R. C. Buford was the GM at the time of all the Carroll / Bertans / Morris business, btw.

Wonder who the Spurs will get to fill the open roster spot. It's before the deadline for whoever they get to be playoff eligible. Har har.

The Holt kids are probably more focused on Caterpillar than the Spurs.

[MannyIsGod]

PATFO used to pull stunts like this all the time, tbh... remember Van Exel, T-Mac, etc... back in the day it all got swept under the Timmy-Manu greatness...

Everything is more amplified when you're a shitty team.

Those were both minimum deals. You really trying to compare that to an MLE 3 year deal? Thats insane. Both of those signings were fine, even if Van Exel got too many minutes for a guy over the hill.

[MannyIsGod]

Honestly, financially it makes no sense to let him go if we still pay most of the money on the contract. The Spurs had the leverage here. Its a 3 year fucking deal. The cap hits stay regardless even if they only paid him 1 more dollar. But that doesn't mean they are paying most of the promised money.

I know the Spurs are good about letting players out that want to be let out but holy fuck you have to at least save yourself some money or else what is the point?

[DPG21920]

Since it's after January 10, Carroll's full salary for this season has to be paid, I believe. The CBA guarantees a season's salary after Jan 10. Both the years 2 and 3 are probably negotiable, depending on exact details of the contract.

R. C. Buford was the GM at the time of all the Carroll / Bertans / Morris business, btw.

Wonder who the Spurs will get to fill the open roster spot. It's before the deadline for whoever they get to be playoff eligible. Har har.

The Holt kids are probably more focused on Caterpillar than the Spurs.

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It’s all negotiable FYI. Not the monies already paid, but any remaining amount due whether it be this season or beyond.

[DPG21920]

Honestly, financially it makes no sense to let him go if we still pay most of the money on the contract. The Spurs had the leverage here. Its a 3 year fucking deal. The cap hits stay regardless even if they only paid him 1 more dollar. But that doesn't mean they are paying most of the promised money.

I know the Spurs are good about letting players out that want to be let out but holy fuck you have to at least save yourself some money or else what is the point?

He’s giving up money - we just dont know yet on how much. But yeah, Spurs had leverage from a financial perspective but they lose some standing in the league if they use that leverage.

The point is only that they dont want to derail his career for mistakes they made. But this doesn’t help SA in any form.

[FkLA]

Apparently Carroll was too stupid to learn Pop's playbook.

"We may never know completely why things didn’t work, but among other things, he reportedly had trouble leaning the schemes"

In other news,shit product gets shitty ratings LMFAO
The player empowerment era is killing the NBA:spin
"Local ratings for 27 of the NBA’s 30 teams (with the Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, and Toronto Raptors not included) are in at the league’s All-Star Break, and the news is not very good for the Association.

According to the ratings data compiled by the Sports Business Journal (https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2020/02/17/Ratings-and-Research/NBA-ratings.aspx), those 27 teams are down 13% on their local RSNs, with 14 of the 27 experiencing declines in viewership. This news follows a similar trend to the national landscape (https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-viewership-remains-down-compared-to-last-year-heading-into-all-star-weekend.html), where ratings have dropped by 12%, from 10% on ESPN to to 13% on TNT and 16% on ABC.


The local story for the NBA isn’t encouraging. The Golden State Warriors, who have dominated the NBA’s local ratings for the last few years, saw their ratings decline by a staggering 66% on NBC Sports Bay Area. That’s the second-largest decline in the league (behind only the Denver Nuggets, down 72% on Altitude, which is beset by carriage issues), and has also knocked the Dubs out of the league’s top five overall. No team is averaging even a 4.00 rating in their local market, and just seven (Spurs, Bucks, 76ers, Thunder, Lakers, Blazers, Celtics) have hit 3.00. 11 teams can’t even get a 1.00 rating locally, including both New York teams (0.85 for the Knicks on MSG and 0.45, the league’s third-lowest mark, for the Nets on YES) and the Clippers (whose 86% rise to a 0.97 on Fox Sports Prime Ticket is the league’s highest local increase)."

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-ratings-are-down-13-locally-and-the-warriors-have-taken-a-shocking-66-local-hit.html

Spurs still lead the league in local ratings despite the drop tbf.

I also think DISH not carrying FSSW has something to do with the drop. I had to get YouTubeTV on top of DISH to watch games but not everybody is a big baller like me, tbh.

[JeffDuncan]

It’s all negotiable FYI. ...


Provisions of the CBA are not negotiable between a team and a player, since they have already been negotiated between all the teams and all the players. FYI.


From Larry Coon's CBA FAQ, http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

See #63 and then #66.

"... on January 10, also known as the "cut-down date," the base salary in all contracts becomes guaranteed for the remainder of that season ... A player must clear waivers before this date, so teams have to waive players by 5:00 PM Eastern Time on January 7th in order to have them off their rosters before January 10."

As I stated, the CBA guarantees Carroll's base salary for this season, since it's after Jan 10. The CBA, itself, forbids Carroll from giving up his salary for this season.

The only possible exception, by arbitrator's decision, is in the last year of a contract. But Carroll's contract is in its first year.

[DPG21920]

Provisions of the CBA are not negotiable between a team and a player, since they have already been negotiated between all the teams and all the players. FYI.


From Larry Coon's CBA FAQ, http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

See #63 and then #66.

"... on January 10, also known as the "cut-down date," the base salary in all contracts becomes guaranteed for the remainder of that season ... A player must clear waivers before this date, so teams have to waive players by 5:00 PM Eastern Time on January 7th in order to have them off their rosters before January 10."

As I stated, the CBA guarantees Carroll's base salary for this season, since it's after Jan 10. The CBA, itself, forbids Carroll from giving up his salary for this season.

The only possible exception, by arbitrator's decision, is in the last year of a contract. But Carroll's contract is in its first year.

You realize the guy I tweeted and received the answer from is actually Larry Coon :lol

[exstatic]

it's hard being GM when ownership demands you reach the playoffs without going over the cap. I don't doubt wright is not the best GM but the ownership has been cheap for a long long time and it's not going to be great time going forward. Hence wright doing desperate thing that backfire.

:lol The Spurs have been over the cap virtually every year since they moved into the ATT Center, and have gone over the tax several times.

[exstatic]

Clearly if we weren’t going to play him this was the right thing to do, I’m glad it didn’t end as ugly as it could have on either side. We’ll see if he actually has anything left in the tank, although that wouldn’t explain if he just didn’t understand the system. Either way it’s another loss for Brian Wright who’s arguably best move (freeing cap space and signing Marcus Morris) miserably backfired on him. That one wasn’t his fault but he is responsible for other mistakes such as shipping Kawhi Leonard to a team who ended up winning the championship, when he could have gotten back Brandon Ingram in return instead.

Ingram and Ball were never on the table. The offer was Hart, Kuzma, and a shitty pick, singular.

I almost wished we had done it, though, just to see the catfight between Klutch and Impact, and their respective players. Kawhi wanted NO part of LeBron as a teammate or they would be on the same team now.

[DPG21920]

Wow. If true looks like Carroll only gave up the prorated minimum to get out :lol

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[Robz4000]

Wow. If true looks like Carroll only gave up the prorated minimum to get out :lol

1229883364494020608

:lmao if that's true

[Chomag]

Just embarrassing

[TD 21]

That's what I figured. This organizaiton is soft and gutless.

He might have been tradeable this off season, especially if tethered to DeRozan, but they always prioritize public perception over what's best for the franchise. Meanwhile, they're in disarray, while the ones who doesn't give a shit are thriving.

[Trill Clinton]

All over a career journeyman? Dude sucked and looked lost when he was here.

[DPG21920]

All over a career journeyman? Dude sucked and looked lost when he was here.

Agree. Begs the question: WTF was this FO thinking sinking 3 years into him?

[Degoat]

Spurs gave him a 2 year deal but had to change it and make it 3 years so that the spurs could sign Marcus Morris

[Strategic]

Why can’t the Spurs reel in one of these already half paid for models? Who’s out there just itching to step our way? Lol

[JuneJive]

But they always prioritize public perception over what's best for the franchise.

It's good in the long run.

[TD 21]

It's good in the long run.

More like, in theory. In reality, it makes no difference. Celtics, Rockets, Raptors, etc. treat players like meat, yet don't have a public laundry list of player relation problems, while having the media eating out of the palm of their proverbial hand.

[XDT76]

Agree. Begs the question: WTF was this FO thinking sinking 3 years into him?

Just bad bad decision, but they have no choice as a sign and trade requires 3 years of contract. Damn how I wish they did nothing during the summer or just sign Trey and call it an off-season, the Spurs probably would be better off.

[XDT76]

It's good in the long run.

Not really, they had been doing it over a decade and till date I had not seen any FA sign with the Spurs bcos of it.

[ElNono]

Those were both minimum deals. You really trying to compare that to an MLE 3 year deal? Thats insane. Both of those signings were fine, even if Van Exel got too many minutes for a guy over the hill.

Was talking about players that barely played despite fan expectations to the contrary (though you’re probably right Van Exel played more than warranted)

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Yeah - I am very skeptical of Wright. His background and what little we know of his vision/ability so far is underwhelming. Beyond that, someone with such little pedigree being pegged to take the most successful franchise in the nba the last 20+ years into uncharted territory is definitely eyebrow raising.

Hoping for the best. He’s obviously hamstringed some by Pop/RC and hard to pin anything directly to him but man, this is such a damn critical juncture and I really hope he’s the right man for the job. eyebrow raising? I see what you did there.

[BatManu20]

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[Genovaswitness]

so about 8 million dollars not to hear Pops views on Politics, Wine, Food and How Awesome Bryn Forbes is.

:lol

that's a ton of nice clothes, shoes etc

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Pop and his front office brain trust continue their multi-year run of suckage. More tonight at 10.

[pad300]

Wow did he not give up much, Hoopshype NBA salaries says he was contracted for $7,000,000, $6,650,000, $1,350,000... Less than the vet min each year. Maybe I am reading too much into the tea leaves, but it suggests to me that this wasn't a Demarre can't hack it (as a Spurs b-ball player, ie. the can't get the sets thing) scenario, but much more of a personalities (Pop froze him out) thing...

[Dverde]

It would have been better for him to go to the Clippers. Carroll, Morris, Quitter on the same team :lol

[Maddog]

Spurs gave him a 2 year deal but had to change it and make it 3 years so that the spurs could sign Marcus Morris

And the 3rd year only guarantee a little over a million.

[ceperez]

What is odd is that couldn't the Spurs get intel from Brooklyn about DeMarre Carroll's inability to follow plays?

Did he not also play under Budenholzer with the Hawks? There was no intel?

[JeffDuncan]

You realize the guy I tweeted and received the answer from is actually Larry Coon :lol


Yes, I do, stupid, and the answer he gave you was to a different question, dimwit. :lol

[duncan2150]

John Hollinger: Hearing that DeMarre Carroll gave back $761k in Spurs buyout. (https://hoopshype.com/social/) Will be prorated over the three years of his deal. Spurs have 48 hours to decide whether to stretch remaining $7.36M cap hit evenly over five years, or retain current structure ($6.12M next year, $1.24M in 2020-21) – via Twitter johnhollinger (https://twitter.com/johnhollinger)

[DPG21920]

Yes, I do, stupid, and the answer he gave you was to a different question, dimwit. :lol

No. You are wrong. Next step for you is beyond knowing where to go to look for information you need to read it correctly and interpret it correctly.

[JeffDuncan]

No. You are wrong. Next step for you is beyond knowing where to go to look for information you need to read it correctly and interpret it correctly.


You are wrong, you illiterate fool. The next step for you is to go back and look at what you actually asked him, you illiterate fool.

C'mon, moron, get it right. Go back and look.

[Sugus]

You are wrong, you illiterate fool. The next step for you is to go back and look at what you actually asked him, you illiterate fool.

C'mon, moron, get it right. Go back and look.

Honest question... You've posted that the salary for the first year of DMC's contract couldn't be changed after Jan 10 per CBA; yet the Spurs would be incurring a $6,842,000 cap hit for the season when as posted above (haven't checked that) his salary for the season was supposedly 7M. What happened there? Are the Rockets paying him that difference so his "guaranteed" money stays the same? I'm no expert in CBA stuff, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Honest question... You've posted that the salary for the first year of DMC's contract couldn't be changed after Jan 10 per CBA; yet the Spurs would be incurring a $6,842,000 cap hit for the season when as posted above (haven't checked that) his salary for the season was supposedly 7M. What happened there? Are the Rockets paying him that difference so his "guaranteed" money stays the same? I'm no expert in CBA stuff, tbh.

He’s wrong’ that is what happened.

[Drom John]

Honest question... You've posted that the salary for the first year of DMC's contract couldn't be changed after Jan 10 per CBA; yet the Spurs would be incurring a $6,842,000 cap hit for the season when as posted above (haven't checked that) his salary for the season was supposedly 7M. What happened there? Are the Rockets paying him that difference so his "guaranteed" money stays the same? I'm no expert in CBA stuff, tbh.

The Spurs are not paying the veteran minimum salary, prorated this year, and full year for the next two.

[Sugus]

He’s wrong’ that is what happened.

He's not though, even though you're my Dude... You asked about the third and last year of DMC'S contracts specifically in your tweet, and that guy on Twitter said that the definition of a buyout is changing the amount owed to the team (in whichever year) in exchange for release. Jeff then posted the part of the CBA stating that the salary owed to a player for the current year is locked up after Jan 10... You're not arguing about the same things. And in any case, we didn't get off the third year of DMC'S contract, so whatever.


The Spurs are not paying the veteran minimum salary, prorated this year, and full year for the next two.

But isn't the vet min salary a part of what was owed to DMC for the season - and thus, totally guaranteed to Carroll after Jan 10 per CBA? Or is the amount locked up, but doesn't matter which team page for it, so the team that signs Carrol will cover it thus making it right? That's why I asked, it's a bit confusing.

[DPG21920]

He's not though, even though you're my Dude... You asked about the third and last year of DMC'S contracts specifically in your tweet, and that guy on Twitter said that the definition of a buyout is changing the amount owed to the team (in whichever year) in exchange for release. Jeff then posted the part of the CBA stating that the salary owed to a player for the current year is locked up after Jan 10... You're not arguing about the same things. And in any case, we didn't get off the third year of DMC'S contract, so whatever.



But isn't the vet min salary a part of what was owed to DMC for the season - and thus, totally guaranteed to Carroll after Jan 10 per CBA? Or is the amount locked up, but doesn't matter which team page for it, so the team that signs Carrol will cover it thus making it right? That's why I asked, it's a bit confusing.

Not true. He’s arguing that all the money this year is due to Carroll since it’s past 1/10. My tweet, while referencing another year also described why what he quoted was wrong. Even though it’s after 1/10 a buyout changes the dynamics and a player can be not paid if THEY agree to those terms due to the buyout.

So yes, i asked about year 3, but the answer was also valid for year 1.

[RC_Drunkford]

John Hollinger: Hearing that DeMarre Carroll gave back $761k in Spurs buyout. (https://hoopshype.com/social/) Will be prorated over the three years of his deal. Spurs have 48 hours to decide whether to stretch remaining $7.36M cap hit evenly over five years, or retain current structure ($6.12M next year, $1.24M in 2020-21) – via Twitter johnhollinger (https://twitter.com/johnhollinger)

:lmao :lmao Flopovich, what a great deal Gregg

[sasaint]

:lmao :lmao Flopovich, what a great deal Gregg

Nah, I heard the Spurs recouped a whopping $811K and change.

[tbdog]

Sad thing is we brought in 5 new bodies (3 Rookies, Carroll and Lyles), and only one is a rotational player.

[JeffDuncan]

...

So yes, i asked about year 3, but the answer was also valid for year 1.


No, it is not. You are mistaken.

[DPG21920]

No, it is not. You are mistaken.

No I am not. So you are saying that the money that Carroll gave up was NOT from the remaining money in this year? Is that your formal statement?

[lmbebo]

Brian Wright hasn't shown much of a real ability to be a GM. From what it sounds like, he's taken over more responsibility since the kwahi trade? He's just not done a great job at all.

[lmbebo]

Thread on reddit about Carroll taking the time to learn the plays .... Screwed up an offensive possession because he didn't know anything.

[Chinook]

That buyout agreement is embarrassing... Dude should have given up at least $2.5 Million more to cover the min next year. Probably the most ashamed I've been of a franchise I root for, and I say that as a longtime Astros fan.

[DPG21920]

He’s still got an offset though for what he signs next year. But yeah.

[Chinook]

He’s still got an offset though for what he signs next year. But yeah.

Set-off only comes into play if he makes more than the min. I imagine he won't. Plus, most buyouts involve teams waiving set-off rights. So it might not matter anyway.

[JuneJive]

Probably the most ashamed I've been of a franchise I root for.

Jeez, like it's your money. Signing was a huge miss, so what. In the long run it's meaningless.

[Chinook]

Jeez, like it's your money. Signing was a huge miss, so what. In the long run it's meaningless.

I would be more than embarrassed if it were my money.

[pad300]

That buyout agreement is embarrassing... Dude should have given up at least $2.5 Million more to cover the min next year. Probably the most ashamed I've been of a franchise I root for, and I say that as a longtime Astros fan.

Yeah, I figure it means there is more to this story than is told. The PATFO have to have some reason to do him a solid. IMO, the really generous agreement is a bit of an unspoken NDA - he won't talk about him and Pop not "Jelling"...

[DPG21920]

Set-off only comes into play if he makes more than the min. I imagine he won't. Plus, most buyouts involve teams waiving set-off rights. So it might not matter anyway.

I read he did not get his set off rights waived

[Chinook]

I read he did not get his set off rights waived

That's horrible. It suggests PATFO believes Carroll has legit value and will get a decent-sized deal. Not only is that unlikely AF, but if they believe he has enough value to command that kinda deal, why the hell is he not good enough to play?

[exstatic]

More like, in theory. In reality, it makes no difference. Celtics, Rockets, Raptors, etc. treat players like meat, yet don't have a public laundry list of player relation problems, while having the media eating out of the palm of their proverbial hand.

Their All NBA PG just walked out the door.

[exstatic]

Just bad bad decision, but they have no choice as a sign and trade requires 3 years of contract. Damn how I wish they did nothing during the summer or just sign Trey and call it an off-season, the Spurs probably would be better off.

People here bitch when they do nothing, so not a damn thing would have changed in this forum.

[sasaint]

That's horrible. It suggests PATFO believes Carroll has legit value and will get a decent-sized deal. Not only is that unlikely AF, but if they believe he has enough value to command that kinda deal, why the hell is he not good enough to play?

or trade?

[exstatic]

That's horrible. It suggests PATFO believes Carroll has legit value and will get a decent-sized deal. Not only is that unlikely AF, but if they believe he has enough value to command that kinda deal, why the hell is he not good enough to play?

:lol Not everyone runs an offense like SA. There are places where he CAN just run around and be an energy guy on offense, crash the boards, whatever.

[ZeusWillJudge]

This is every bit as bad as some of the horrible moves that Isiah Thomas made with the Knicks. There's no sugar coating this. It's a complete management disaster.

I've said it a couple of times recently - if you were absolutely trying to dismantle an organization, this is what it would look like.

[TD 21]

Their All NBA PG just walked out the door.

But it had nothing to do with the organization and even if it did, one doesn't constitute a laundry list.

[8sy21vd]

Lol pathetic stuff. Why don’t they give him a severance package while they’re at it.

[8sy21vd]

Like Zeus said, their actions suggest they’re trying to self-sabotage but sadly we all know they think they’re doing their best

[exstatic]

But it had nothing to do with the organization and even if it did, one doesn't constitute a laundry list.

Al Horford, an All Star during his time in Boston, walked out the door. Marcus Morris walked out the door. That's 3 rotation players, two of them starters, from last year.

[TD 21]

Al Horford, an All Star during his time in Boston, walked out the door. Marcus Morris walked out the door. That's 3 rotation players, two of them starters, from last year.

Horford left because of dysfunction within' the locker room and I believe they refused to offer him a 4th season, while Morris did because they didn't have the money to re-sign him.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets/status/1230672669881880577

[ace3g]

Ben DuBose (https://twitter.com/BenDuBose) (https://twitter.com/BenDuBose) benDuBose (https://twitter.com/BenDuBose)


DeMarre Carroll signing is official. He'll be active and available to play tonight. #Rockets (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rockets) #OneMission (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OneMission)

[FkLA]

:lol Not everyone runs an offense like SA. There are places where he CAN just run around and be an energy guy on offense, crash the boards, whatever.

Didn't he play under Bud in ATL though? Theres a clip of him looking completely lost circulating on reddit but there's no way he was that clueless all the time is there?

Should've just let him rot or waited to find any trade in the Summer if all he was willing to give up was 700k, tbh.

[ismael-robert]

FkLA your sig has honor of first i will block it makes me nauseous

[ace3g]

DeMarre is in the game.

[Fusternino]

Admittedly, still looks washed.

[Robz4000]

Looked solid in limited minutes tonight; didn't score but did a bit of everything else plus looked serviceable on defense. Looks like it was a case of Carroll calling out Pop for playing Forbes so much imo.

[ismael-robert]

2 fts for 2 pts

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

This isn't going to look good, Carroll already playing 1/10 of the total minutes Poop gave him in 50+games in just one game with the Rockets. The D was there the 3 will come. He will get PT in the playoffs and the rockets look to be poised to get to at least the 2nd round if not further.

I can already hear it, "And for some reason Carroll couldn't get off the end of the bench with the Spurs who missed the playoffs for the 1st time in 22 years"
Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) will be orgasmic over that prospect and hearing that phrase.

It is just absolutely baffling just how horrible PATFO has been since the Kawhi fiasco...

Its been a downward spiral ever since for this once proud and storied franchise...

[RC_Drunkford]

This isn't going to look good, Carroll already playing 1/10 of the total minutes Poop gave him in 50+games in just one game with the Rockets. The D was there the 3 will come. He will get PT in the playoffs and the rockets look to be poised to get to at least the 2nd round if not further.

I can already hear it, "And for some reason Carroll couldn't get off the end of the bench with the Spurs who missed the playoffs for the 1st time in 22 years"
Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) will be orgasmic over that prospect and hearing that phrase.

This is great. Flopovich needs to get exposed as soon as possible. Hope Carroll plays great on the Rockets

[Maddog]

This isn't going to look good, Carroll already playing 1/10 of the total minutes Poop gave him in 50+games in just one game with the Rockets. The D was there the 3 will come. He will get PT in the playoffs and the rockets look to be poised to get to at least the 2nd round if not further.

I can already hear it, "And for some reason Carroll couldn't get off the end of the bench with the Spurs who missed the playoffs for the 1st time in 22 years"
Mugen will be orgasmic over that prospect and hearing that phrase.


The bar for playing at the 3 or 4 for the Rockettes is pretty low.
Stand in a corner on O. Waive on D. Grab a few long boards

[exstatic]

The bar for playing at the 3 or 4 for the Rockettes is pretty low.
Stand in a corner on O. Waive on D. Grab a few long boards

It also seems to be like the DDA professor at Hogwarts, pretty much a revolving door.

[baseline bum]

That buyout agreement is embarrassing... Dude should have given up at least $2.5 Million more to cover the min next year. Probably the most ashamed I've been of a franchise I root for, and I say that as a longtime Astros fan.

You're more embarrassed by a bad buyout of a scrub than you are stealing signs with a video camera to steal a World Series title? smh

[Fusternino]

Eh, I actually think he wasn't moving well at all out there. But if he just needs to catch and shoot on offense he could do well.

[Chinook]

You're more embarrassed by a bad buyout of a scrub than you are stealing signs with a video camera to steal a World Series title? smh

At least the Astros got something out of it. It's not even close.

[Drom John]

Sign stealing = broken air conditioner?

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037606185426946?s=20

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037850293919750?s=20https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037850293919750?s=20

gave him 14 million $ as a gift, but that wasn't enough :lmao

[Genovaswitness]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037606185426946?s=20

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037850293919750?s=20https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037850293919750?s=20



gave him 14 million $ as a gift, but that wasn't enough :lmao

classic cuckovich :toast

[JuneJive]

Vets remember that.

[slick'81]

Pop is such a great guy

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ATTSportsNetSW/status/1231401699455057921

[slick'81]

https://twitter.com/ATTSportsNetSW/status/1231401699455057921


Demmarre is reborn

[NASpurs]

Wait, wasn't that chick with the Spurs too? :lol

[ace3g]

Wait, wasn't that chick with the Spurs too? :lol

Yes, Cayleigh was with the Spurs for a few years.

[Trainwreck2100]

Wait, wasn't that chick with the Spurs too? :lol

cayleigh got that big $$ too.

[ducks]

Pop is such a great guy

?
What has he done nice to media except when he calls a press
Conference to cry about the president of the USA who the people in USA voted for !

[timtonymanu]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037606185426946?s=20

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037850293919750?s=20https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1231037850293919750?s=20

gave him 14 million $ as a gift, but that wasn't enough :lmao

A team that wasn’t even that talented to begin with couldn’t find time for DeMarre Carroll :lol. I call horseshit

[lmbebo]

Looks like he got that opportunity to play with the Rockets ....

[Trainwreck2100]

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when i said she got big $$ i just meant she got a pay raise

[Slippy]

A team that wasn’t even that talented to begin with couldn’t find time for DeMarre Carroll :lol. I call horseshit

Pop in damage control tbh. He spinning this to make the spurs look good. Others FAs and agents will be taking note

[EasyMoney]

Demarre had a great performance last night.

[tbdog]

classic cuckovich :toast

That's good PR.

[ZeusWillJudge]

:pop: "I blame myself for this one. Before the season started, I didn't know Marco was going to be this damn good. And Rudy Gay has been better than expected, too. There just weren't any minutes."

[TheGoatishere]

Demarre had a great performance last night.

Yeah doubt he gets much burn on Houston unless someone gets hurt .

[CGD]

It was the right call. Folks will bitch about Demarre “Michael Jordan” Carroll not playing, but in the next sentence complain that Lonnie, Gay, or someone else isnt getting enough touches.

Yeah the cap hit sucks, but you aren’t doing anything next summer besides using the MLE. Might as well just take the hit as opposed to stretching, and be in a better position in 2021.



Also, F you Marcus Morris!

[jeebus]

Admittedly, still looks washed.
Pop, is that you?

[UZER]

Pop to Carol:

You already got paid over your career. You ain’t playing over Bryn. Im trying to get him, no, am going to get him paid. By Felisha.

[slick'81]

Dude is done.what a waste of money

[BackHome]

Man Pop is fucking up left and right he needs to hang it up retire and enjoy life.