Game Thread: Spurs vs. Mavericks - Feb. 26, 2020 @ 7:30 PM CT

[Prime BEEF]

Germany
Thanks. Cool. Spent some time there myself

[slick'81]

Come on lw4 ! Keep ya head up

[slick'81]

Ata boy patty

[Larry O]

LW4 blowing good opportunities to really shine on the court, SMH. Well, at least Pop didn't yank him right away when he picked up his 3rd foul. He has a lot to grow on with his game. He needs more playing time though.

[slick'81]

Luka is soo fckn nice

[tholdren]

Walker sucks. Its evident that hes only better than 1 player on the team. Rudy gay

[tholdren]

Luka is soo fckn nice
21 pt on 20 shots.... nice

[Prime BEEF]

Spurs play such shit music at the arena
Yes, the music at games is garbage

[paperboy77]

Well just because spurs home crowds always suck doesn't really matter. They sucked then, now and likely forever.

Nah but in all actuallity you all are right... who in the hell would root for this shitty team.



Nice block Lonnie!Q!!!!!!!

[tholdren]

Sad for ddr.

[RC_Drunkford]

Poeltl played a total 5 minutes :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Prime BEEF]

Poeltl played a total 5 minutes :lmao :lmao :lmao
Think pop will resign him?

[paperboy77]

Pop should look Kelden in the eyes and challenge him to fuck Luka up. Old Pop mighta done that.

[RC_Drunkford]

Think pop will resign him?

I think that's the exact reason he's not playing him many minutes. To keep the price low.

[Slippy]

Spurs back in it . Second unit Including Lonnie getting stops and easy baskets other end.

[RC_Drunkford]

Say what you want but Beli is one of the better players tonight. He's making things happen when everybody is missing

[Slippy]

If spurs get hot on the three they should could make it a contest.

[Prime BEEF]

I think that's the exact reason he's not playing him many minutes. To keep the price low.
Was thinking the same thing

[Slippy]

Sorry luca theres no such thing as a finger foul

[Robz4000]

:lmao Forms

[RC_Drunkford]

Brent Forms doing what he always does :lmao

[paperboy77]

Pop with the stupidity... leading the way.

[Joseph Kony]

that was their chance and of course they fucked it up, multiple opportunities blown thanks to Forbes and trash defense. fuck i hate this team. such an assemblage of low iq players

[ZeusWillJudge]

:lmao Forms


Bryn is like a potato... or something.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs had plenty of opportunities to get the lead and didn't get it. As they usually did this season. Like I said before the game started this is a guaranteed L

[paperboy77]

Forbes at this point is just a bad omen. I'm telling yall... even Beli is better anytime over that waste of space Forbes.

[RC_Drunkford]

what has Poeltl done that he can't play more than 5 minutes?

[paperboy77]

Sean Elliott with the jinx. "Mavs adept at losing close games".

[paperboy77]

Cannot fault DJ trying..

[tholdren]

Cannot fault DJ trying..

He sucks

[Slippy]

Spurs in front. Lyles huge three

Still getting stops

[Joseph Kony]

spurs might be winning if the one C on the roster was playing

[EasyMoney]

Dejounte needs to be registered for immediate layup drills.

[tholdren]

Murray is the worst and dumbest

[Robz4000]

what has Poeltl done that he can't play more than 5 minutes?

He dunks the ball

[tholdren]

spurs might be winning if the one C on the roster was playing
Spurs winning if no Murray no gay no walker

[paperboy77]

Do they play this Charlize Theron commercial a shit load of times where y'all are at? Shit gets old really quick. And that 4 lawyer too.

[DPG21920]

Somehow SA has a shot to win. If they are serious about the PO’s, this is one they need.

Don’t agree with the rotations but I guess the result is there at the moment.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Lonnie has played some damn good D tonight. Keeping his feet on Doncic fakes. Fighting around screens. Some nasty blocks. I don't give a damn if he makes some mistakes - give him minutes and he'll eliminate a lot of those.

[paperboy77]

Grizzles gifting us one. Let's see what we're made of.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Do they play this Charlize Theron commercial a shit load of times where y'all are at? Shit gets old really quick. And that 4 lawyer too.


I'm so sick of that commercial. I think it's mandatory that it gets played at least once every commercial break.

[RC_Drunkford]

Lonnie has played some damn good D tonight. Keeping his feet on Doncic fakes. Fighting around screens. Some nasty blocks. I don't give a damn if he makes some mistakes - give him minutes and he'll eliminate a lot of those.

:pop: "he's not as good as Bryn is"

[ZeusWillJudge]

I'm so sick of that commercial. I think it's mandatory that it gets played at least once every commercial break.

Shit. And then he doesn't know where the shot clock is. :lol

[Slippy]

Lonnie has played some damn good D tonight. Keeping his feet on Doncic fakes. Fighting around screens. Some nasty blocks. I don't give a damn if he makes some mistakes - give him minutes and he'll eliminate a lot of those.

Pretty much

Over the back on whitr wtf

[SpurPadre]

Now, of all time, this team decides to be competent in the 4th quarter. Tank you fucking idiots.

[tholdren]

:pop: "he's not as good as Bryn is"

Hes not

[FkLA]

Lonnie and Lyles have been the best Doncic defenders imo.

Not sure why Pop insists on putting Ehite and Murray on him.

[RC_Drunkford]

exactly Flopovich, don't play Poeltl so Porzingis can keep shitting on the team

[Joseph Kony]

white hanging his head and moping like a little bitch is pissing me off. Dude needs the man the fuck up

[paperboy77]

I think that's a wrap. I think DJ should be in there not Patty. Not sure for who but DJ should a been in there.

[Genovaswitness]

that was an 8 second violation. why the fuck isn't murray out here.

great job as always poop :toast

[FkLA]

Lonnie has played some damn good D tonight. Keeping his feet on Doncic fakes. Fighting around screens. Some nasty blocks. I don't give a damn if he makes some mistakes - give him minutes and he'll eliminate a lot of those.

Lonnie's defense is incredible when he's engaged. Like better than White and Murray good.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Blatant 8 sec violation non call

[tholdren]

that was an 8 second violation. why the fuck isn't murray out here.

great job as always poop :toast

Dumb

[paperboy77]

Nice play Pop

[paperboy77]

Rudy more appropriate than DJ?

[RC_Drunkford]

Now, of all time, this team decides to be competent in the 4th quarter. Tank you fucking idiots.

it's not their fault the coach sabotages them on a nightly basis. They fight, but it's tough to come back when you have to come back from a 19-point deficit in the first quarter while being the inferior team

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Game after game patty mills continues to chuck like he thinks he's Kobe and nobody calls him out on it

[Slippy]

Demar and Patty back on. Spurs getting stops has come to a halt.

Cant play both at same time when closing

[RC_Drunkford]

50 Mills icing the game for the Mavs

[Genovaswitness]

stuttering pricks like him don't stop stuttering and become Alpha's

not his nature

this tbh. he is a true beta cuckold

[Rito3d30]

ball movement is a beautiful thing to watch.....

[boutons_deux]

Patty airballing, Murray missing layups, while Mavs hit 3s, GAMEOVER

[DPG21920]

Pop has been so bad this year. So bad.

What do you expect riding Mills/Rudy/Forbes/Beli/Lyles man. He looks for any reason to play them and the 1 out of 10 games where some of them provide a short term spark he rides them all the way until the predictable holes are exposed.

yet when White/Murray/Lonnie show something he chalks it up to a fluke and not worthy of exploring more?

[tbdog]

Game after game patty mills continues to chuck like he thinks he's Kobe and nobody calls him out on it

It was a play breakdown

[Slippy]

Now Rudy on and pop has marco subbing in wtf

No way spurs defense overcomes the liabilities

[paperboy77]

LOL, Rick with that on DEMAND ZONE

he is out coaching Poop per par

The guy does it every time. Watch... Pop will want to be in his airspace afte4r this BIG loss anyway. (CDC better start keeping an eye on hugger Pop.)

[paperboy77]

BTW... these refs suck bull balls!

[RC_Drunkford]

Luka is in the building. Luka Samanic that is. The rookie has been called up to replace an injured LaMarcus Aldridge, who is out with a shoulder injury.

Rodeo Road Trip over. Excuses over. Let's get it :tu

you just keep taking Ls :lmao :lmao :lmao

[slick'81]

It was a play breakdown


Quit making excuses for that pos

[Slippy]

Patty airballing, Murray missing layups, while Mavs hit 3s, GAMEOVER

Patty shot selection has been terrible. I also cant remember the last time he passed out to a teammate off a play because his shot wasnt there

[slick'81]

you just keep taking Ls :lmao :lmao :lmao

everything is fine tbh

[paperboy77]

Fuck Pop and the Refs.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

It was a play breakdown

Were you not watching the 4th quarter? :lol

[slick'81]

Patty shot selection has been terrible. I also cant remember the last time he passed out to a teammate off a play because his shot wasnt there


Ive been calling that overrated,overpaid pos out for years tbh

lol fiba patty

[Budkin]

Pop is going to be hugging Mavs players in a few with a huge smile on his face.

[FkLA]

Pop has been so bad this year. So bad.

What do you expect riding Mills/Rudy/Forbes/Beli/Lyles man. He looks for any reason to play them and the 1 out of 10 games where some of them provide a short term spark he rides them all the way until the predictable holes are exposed.

yet when White/Murray/Lonnie show something he chalks it up to a fluke and not worthy of exploring more?




https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1232828874435825665


BTW this is getting overlooked but jesus christ it's so gross. Brent is the situational guy, the guy that if the game demands some shooting/a spark you give him spot minutes. DJ and White are big minute guys no matter what. They're two of your top four player ffs.

Pop has completely lost it.

[Larry O]

Spurs is the only team in the league that doesn't get any respect, SMH.

[RC_Drunkford]

Honestly if I was playing for this team I would throw the ball into Pop's face and tell him fuck you

[c whata11]

If only D White played with this attitude all the time

[slick'81]

Game

[tbdog]

Quit making excuses for that pos

But it was. He was put in a shit situation.

[FkLA]

White isnt soft, man. He's not the most assertive guy out there but he has a lot of fire in him. You dont play the type of defense he does by being a bitch.

[slick'81]

Mvpatty and bryn shitting the bed per usual

[paperboy77]

Well we didn't lose ground.

Really tho.. Pop needs to go to an 8 man rotation >>> NOW.

White, DJ, LW, LA, DD, JP, Lyles & Patty. Maybe fucken K Johnson. Oh yeah bench Pops ass too.

[timtonymanu]

Same shit all season. :lol

They go on a 2-3 game win streak then follow it up with 2 straight losses or more. I didn’t bother getting excited after they beat the Jazz, just delaying their tanking process more.

[slick'81]

But it was. He was put in a shit situation.


One play does not excuse all his shortcomings

[Texas_Ranger]

Doncic with a fucked up arm and a fucked up ankle still with a triple double... this team is fucking pathetic.

[SpurPadre]

Even Seth Curry is better than the Retard Curry we have.

[RC_Drunkford]

Mavs by 20. Aldridge out means Pop plays super small ball with Gay at C and Belinelli replacing Aldridge

:wakeup

[Pelicans78]

Thanks guys.

[Darius Bieber]

Even Seth Curry is better than the Retard Curry we have.

Would rather have retard Curry than Forbes

[slick'81]

Even Seth Curry is better than the Retard Curry we have.


When someone said that pos was a poor mans curry he was being generous

[BillMc]

Well, onto the next. Nite.

[SpurPadre]

Same shit all season. :lol

They go on a 2-3 game win streak then follow it up with 2 straight losses or more. I didn’t bother getting excited after they beat the Jazz, just delaying their tanking process more.

Even their wins are fucking annoying now. PATFO need to fully embrace the tank now.

[spurs10]

Honestly if I was playing for this team I would throw the ball into Pop's face and tell him fuck you That would probably not go over well. The NBA would likely get pissed off over that. Chill mon. :smokin

[slick'81]

The next game will be the biggest must win game of the season tbh

[slick'81]

Even their wins are fucking annoying now. PATFO need to fully embrace the tank now.


They wont,forbes will still start and hell still rely on patty

[ZeusWillJudge]

Well we didn't lose ground.


Unless you count the fact that they're running out of games.

Or were you saying that they didn't lose ground on the draft pick? In that case, call this one a success. :lol

[SpurPadre]

When someone said that pos was a poor mans curry he was being generous

Pop was the one who compared this POS to Steph smh.

[spurs10]

Well, onto the next. Nite. Ar labu nakti!

[SpurPadre]

They wont,forbes will still start and hell still rely on patty

But that's part of the formula to tanking, tbh.

[slick'81]

Lol bbbbbut Memphis lost! Yes they both suck

[timtonymanu]

Thanks guys.

You guys are our last hope. Grizzlies are gonna suck now and the blazers need lillard.

[DPG21920]

Well, onto the next. Nite.

Was that a copy paste :lol?

Team claims they want to make the playoffs. Makes zero trades to help that cause. Runs out the same losing lineups we’ve seen all year. Keeps losing.

Makes sense!

[DPG21920]

Spurs are like the DNC. Complete mess and instead of adapting and being in touch with modern times, they are a nightmare and keep trying to tell people what they SHOUD want vs listening to what they DO want.

[paperboy77]

Unless you count the fact that they're running out of games.

Or were you saying that they didn't lose ground on the draft pick? In that case, call this one a success. :lol

Yes... the draft pick of course. :huh

[paperboy77]

We're the 12th seed... damn.

[RC_Drunkford]

That would probably not go over well. The NBA would likely get pissed off over that. Chill mon. :smokin

Ron Artest knocked out a fan during a game and played plenty of NBA games after. Honestly if you have a competitive spirit you'll definitely get mad at the coach for sabotaging you on a nightly basis

[BillMc]

Ar labu nakti!

Paldies!:fro

[slick'81]

We're the 12th seed... damn.


No damn, we need as high a pick as possible. Domu really want to see this team vs la?

[SpurPadre]

We're the 12th seed... damn.

Strange times we're living in, tbh. Load Management set this franchise back 30 years with his faggotry.

[RC_Drunkford]

Was that a copy paste :lol?

Team claims they want to make the playoffs. Makes zero trades to help that cause. Runs out the same losing lineups we’ve seen all year. Keeps losing.

Makes sense!

Not all true. Today he ran out a line up that has never played together which is the exact reason why they lost

[RC_Drunkford]

Strange times we're living in, tbh. Flopovich sets this franchise back 30 years with his faggotry

FIFY

[slick'81]

Pop actually taking the blame for this one:wow

[paperboy77]

No damn, we need as high a pick as possible. Domu really want to see this team vs la?

Well damn cause it's not what I'm use to but yes there's a silver lining for sure. Too fucken bad this draft sux. A lot of changes need to be made. The City has lost confidence all around. Yeah faggot ass #2 set us back but when Peter Holt gave this shit up it went down hill. We have a very tough hill to climb.

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop actually taking the blame for this one:wow

I'm shocked. Did he really say "The game plan I came up with was poor"??????

https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1232878411397390336?s=20https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1232878411397390336?s=20https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1232878411397390336?s=20

[slick'81]

Atleast derozan got his numbers

[GAustex]

Yeah, ok she is owning all the bad toxic MEN

AND THE BITCH DONT EVEN DRINK THE BEER..
Her form is good
But her form throwing a dart is comical. She should study up and at least give it a professional actress effort.

[DPG21920]

Jakob riding bench with no LMA despite KP going off? Makes no sense. Why has Pop devalued defense so much? I just don’t get it. Every argument for this is framed under guise of “well offense needs spacing etc...”. What about the defense? Its about net rating. Not just one side

You have White/Murray pairing that barely played bc of fear of spacing. Well, what about the uptick in defense? Does that not have potential to offset issues w/offense? Jakob? Can he not get stops to make up for lack of scoring? At least heavily explore it when you are LOSING.

Funny also how anyone, playoffs or not, can look at this and think this is acceptable. Playoffs aren’t the “goal”. Being a good team is. Making the playoffs under circumstances like this doesn’t change the fact SA isnt good.

[RC_Drunkford]

Jakob riding bench with no LMA despite KP going off? Makes no sense. Why has Pop devalued defense so much? I just don’t get it. Every argument for this is framed under guise of “well offense needs spacing etc...”. What about the defense? Its about net rating. Not just one side

You have White/Murray pairing that barely played bc of fear of spacing. Well, what about the uptick in defense? Does that not have potential to offset issues w/offense? Jakob? Can he not get stops to make up for lack of scoring? At least heavily explore it when you are LOSING.

Funny also how anyone, playoffs or not, can look at this and think this is acceptable. Playoffs aren’t the “goal”. Being a good team is. Making the playoffs under circumstances like this doesn’t change the fact SA isnt good.

Flopovich thought he was smart. Smarter than Carlisle. Here is how this went and I said this early in this game thread:

Carlisle doesn't post up in his system, has Porzingis shooting 3s

Flopovich: Porzingis will draw Poeltl out to the 3-point line, so I'ma go super small and play Lyles at Center, have Lonnie guard Doncic and Carlisle won't expose our small line up cause he doesn't use post ups

Carlisle goes and plays through Porzingis in the post to create open 3s while also playing zone defense

Walker, Murray and DeRozan are all scared to shoot 3s, Spurs can't score. There's also nobody on the floor to set a screen for the ball handler.

Spurs down 19 in the 1st quarter

Flopovich: let's try the same thing again in the 2nd half

Spurs get outrebounded by Porzingis while White has to box him out on crucial posessions

Mavs win

Pop goes over to Carlisle and thanks him for beating his ass once again

[tbdog]

One play does not excuse all his shortcomings

He played well. Missed shots, sure. But he was usually in the right spot. Hustled. The bench was moving with him out there. It wasn't a great game but not a bad one either.

[Thomas82]

Is Luka playing? Doncic, that is. He's nursing an ankle injury apparently.

He gashed us with a triple-double tonight.

[spurs10]

I'm shocked. Did he really say "The game plan I came up with was poor"??????

https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1232878411397390336?s=20https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1232878411397390336?s=20https://twitter.com/Spurs_Nation/status/1232878411397390336?s=20 Yep.


Jakob riding bench with no LMA despite KP going off? Makes no sense. Why has Pop devalued defense so much? I just don’t get it. Every argument for this is framed under guise of “well offense needs spacing etc...”. What about the defense? Its about net rating. Not just one side

You have White/Murray pairing that barely played bc of fear of spacing. Well, what about the uptick in defense? Does that not have potential to offset issues w/offense? Jakob? Can he not get stops to make up for lack of scoring? At least heavily explore it when you are LOSING.

Funny also how anyone, playoffs or not, can look at this and think this is acceptable. Playoffs aren’t the “goal”. Being a good team is. Making the playoffs under circumstances like this doesn’t change the fact SA isnt good. Yep.

[spurs10]

Seeing Poeltl play 9 minute is baffling.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Strange times we're living in, tbh. Load Management set this franchise back 30 years with his faggotry.

That's all I could think of during the game...there have been so many games like this where our team is competitive and keeps it close towards the end but can't close it out due to our lack of a superstar...Nephew really fucked us over...

[Fireball]

how did donkic not pick up one technical .... i mean he is already on draymond level regarding his constant complaints... and more often looks like a crybaby

[spurs10]

how did donkic not pick up one technical .... i mean he is already on draymond level regarding his constant complaints... and more often looks like a crybaby Yeah it was ridiculous.

[Slippy]

how did donkic not pick up one technical .... i mean he is already on draymond level regarding his constant complaints... and more often looks like a crybaby

Yah i didnt get the constantly whining about getting hit on the fingers. Hand part of the ball . No foul

[duncan2k5]

That's all I could think of during the game...there have been so many games like this where our team is competitive and keeps it close towards the end but can't close it out due to our lack of a superstar...Nephew really fucked us over...

Shitty excuse...he has been gone for almost two years and everything we have done since then has been the wrong decision... including the trade...when will u ppl have enough balls to point fingers are the ones making the decisions?

[tholdren]

Murray Lonnie and gay.... all worthless

[SAGirl]

You're right about that but there are different ways to leave. Not telling spurs would have been a contender no matter what with #2 leaving but he really fucked the team in many ways with his shitty act.

Look what AD did in NO... being honest and clear from the start, saying he wanted to leave then making his best get a fair deal for eveyone, staying classy during the whole process.

Meanwhile, Kawhi who was supposed to be the next leader after the big three and the guy PATFO build everything around seated out a whole year faking injuries, then not only left the team in the dark about his intentions but brought drama around the club, discrediting the medical staff and organisation all around the league before making his best to hurt his value to go in LA.

Remember the shity offers that were mentioned for him with teams reticent because of his health? Then see how good he was last year in Toronto and imagine what kind of deal could spurs have gotten for that Kawhi if he had retuned in his last year with SA and just showed he was OK?
Only thing that changes that is the Pelicans made a play to get young talent and a top pick in the draft. They didn’t choose a package from the Raptors centered on Derozan and change while paying them 5 mill and giving them Green on top.

Kawhi wasn’t owned by the Spurs. The only thing that was truly upsetting is how he went about it and the fact his last season on the Spurs was a waste. AD went about it in similar fashion except the injury. He also stated publicly he was leaving, and that was a loss of a season for the Pelicans tbh. They just recovered better bc of the draft and better package and that was on the FO.

[Texas_Ranger]

how did donkic not pick up one technical .... i mean he is already on draymond level regarding his constant complaints... and more often looks like a crybaby

The way hes been treated by the refs this whole season he should actually cry a lot more.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Shitty excuse...he has been gone for almost two years and everything we have done since then has been the wrong decision... including the trade...when will u ppl have enough balls to point fingers are the ones making the decisions?

I'm not saying he's the ONLY reason...yeah there's been a ton of other mishaps since then that have been documented that don't have to be rehashed...its just that his departure has been BY FAR the most costly...

[John B]

You sure
Not anymore

[TD 21]

Only thing that changes that is the Pelicans made a play to get young talent and a top pick in the draft. They didn’t choose a package from the Raptors centered on Derozan and change while paying them 5 mill and giving them Green on top.

Kawhi wasn’t owned by the Spurs. The only thing that was truly upsetting is how he went about it and the fact his last season on the Spurs was a waste. AD went about it in similar fashion except the injury. He also stated publicly he was leaving, and that was a loss of a season for the Pelicans tbh. They just recovered better bc of the draft and better package and that was on the FO.

This is the type of (instant) revisionist history this puke has benefitted from to repair his image and reputation.

You don't think the Spurs wanted young talent? Had he not intentionally destroyed his value, they'd have been able to get it of the premium or at least good variety and not the mediocrity they were offered.

Davis didn't refuse to play while healthy, hide halfway across the country, have his sleazebag uncle attempt to destroy the Pelicans reputation and make it clear that he'd only re-sign in L.A.

[RC_Drunkford]

Weather nephew fucked over the franchise or not is no excuse for this team to suck as much as they do now.

First there were the Mills and Pau extensions, who both still get paid while only one of them plays here. Then they constructed a garbage roster around Leonard cause they thought he would still stay when he was hiding for a whole season. Then they traded him for DeMar DeRozan. And then they threw in Danny Green as well. That was the dumbest move of em all. That's the type of player this team still needs to this day. Then they went and gave Bertans away for free and signed Carroll who they are paying for 3 full seasons while he's playing for Houston.

Only a senile idiot with his drunk GM can fuck up that often. Give this team Green and Bertans and that's good enough for them to still be in the playoffs while developing the picks. Nephew bailing ain't enough of an excuse on why this franchise sucks. It's Flopovich and his ego, which is the main reason nephew left in the first place

[Prime BEEF]

Weather nephew fucked over the franchise or not is no excuse for this team to suck as much as they do now.

First there were the Mills and Pau extensions, who both still get paid while only one of them plays here. Then they constructed a garbage roster around Leonard cause they thought he would still stay when he was hiding for a whole season. Then they traded him for DeMar DeRozan. And then they threw in Danny Green as well. That was the dumbest move of em all. That's the type of player this team still needs to this day. Then they went and gave Bertans away for free and signed Carroll who they are paying for 3 full seasons while he's playing for Houston.

Only a senile idiot with his drunk GM can fuck up that often. Give this team Green and Bertans and that's good enough for them to still be in the playoffs while developing the picks. Nephew bailing ain't enough of an excuse on why this franchise sucks. It's Flopovich and his ego, which is the main reason nephew left in the first place
Bravo

[TD 21]

I'm not absolving them of blame for their current state, just saying let's get the facts straight. By far the biggest reason for their being in the predicament they are, is what he did to them.

They only reason they're not sitting on the war chest of young assets the Pelicans are (minus Williamson, obviously), is because of what he did.

Make a trade like that and a lot of the ensuing nonsense we've seen since then probably doesn't happen.

[SAGirl]

This is the type of (instant) revisionist history this puke has benefitted from to repair his image and reputation.

You don't think the Spurs wanted young talent? Had he not intentionally destroyed his value, they'd have been able to get it of the premium or at least good variety and not the mediocrity they were offered.

Davis didn't refuse to play while healthy, hide halfway across the country, have his sleazebag uncle attempt to destroy the Pelicans reputation and make it clear that he'd only re-sign in L.A.
TBH it’s not revisionist. It’s my belief Spurs knew for a long time he wasn’t signing back and wanted out and held on to him hoping to convince him and his camp played hardball. At the time I supported that decision bc I would have rather they kept Kawhi if it was at all possible, of course. But it wasn’t known until after the fact how bad things were and how broken up they were. They were in a much better position to know the originally called “rift” wasn’t going to end well and passed on a lot of offers for him bc they would rather keep him. It wa widely reported at the time actually that they weren’t looking to tarde him and were turning teams away. They actually held on to him too long. I’d rather they just kept him one more season rather than the package they got tbh. There’s no one that’s going to convince me that was all that was offered for him since the “rumblings” started.


Heck Pop was rumored to also knowingly trying to convince the Pelicans not to trade Davis to the Lakers. At that rate the Pelicans would have sent Davis East for a terrible package (but at least not the Lakers...!!!)

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi left because of how he was treated... We see for ourselves that the FO is horrible... They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt in the Kawhi saga... Word is they were being shady, and I believe it... And Kawhi was willing to sign back inspire of all that, bit being lowballed while LMA gets aax extension, plus the patty and gasol contracts was the nail in the coffin

[EasyMoney]

Kawhi left because of how he was treated... We see for ourselves that the FO is horrible... They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt in the Kawhi saga... Word is they were being shady, and I believe it... And Kawhi was willing to sign back inspire of all that, bit being lowballed while LMA gets aax extension, plus the patty and gasol contracts was the nail in the coffin



He left partly because of it. He left because he wanted to go to southern California. Patfo gave him even more of a reason to go by throwing him under the bus to the media. Of course, giving patty 50mil and gasol 48m most likely did have kawhi question whether it was worth staying 1 more year as well.

So yeah I agree with you in a way. Patfo have made some questionable decisions that they are paying for now

[Big P]

It isn't just KL, I can't blame him for wanting to get out of this shitty org, he saw it coming...literally no big FA wants to play for pop..trading KL is one thing, but throwing in DG and misusing Bertans, along with the ridiculous contracts for Gasol, Mills and Carroll is inexcusable...we are paying $11 mil next year for 2 players that are not even on the team, any other coach and GM would be fired, I seriously hope they lose out and can get a top 10 pick, because that is the only way we are going to get some talent on the team, but even then, patfo will stick the lottery pick in Austin for 3 years and wonder why he wants to leave when his rookie contract is up... and get ready for forbes getting a 4 year $50 mil contract...patfo have been exposed and the fans are the ones paying the price.

[TD 21]

TBH it’s not revisionist. It’s my belief Spurs knew for a long time he wasn’t signing back and wanted out and held on to him hoping to convince him and his camp played hardball. At the time I supported that decision bc I would have rather they kept Kawhi if it was at all possible, of course. But it wasn’t known until after the fact how bad things were and how broken up they were. They were in a much better position to know the originally called “rift” wasn’t going to end well and passed on a lot of offers for him bc they would rather keep him. It wa widely reported at the time actually that they weren’t looking to tarde him and were turning teams away. They actually held on to him too long. I’d rather they just kept him one more season rather than the package they got tbh. There’s no one that’s going to convince me that was all that was offered for him since the “rumblings” started.


Heck Pop was rumored to also knowingly trying to convince the Pelicans not to trade Davis to the Lakers. At that rate the Pelicans would have sent Davis East for a terrible package (but at least not the Lakers...!!!)

Comparing the Scumbag saga to the Davis situation and pretending they were similar and the only difference was front office competence or lackthereof, is absurd and revisionist history.

Whether they waited too long to trade him or not, the same reasons that brought his value down existed months earlier too. The bottom line is, he screwed them.

[Genovaswitness]

It isn't just KL, I can't blame him for wanting to get out of this shitty org, he saw it coming...literally no big FA wants to play for pop..trading KL is one thing, but throwing in DG and misusing Bertans, along with the ridiculous contracts for Gasol, Mills and Carroll is inexcusable...we are paying $11 mil next year for 2 players that are not even on the team, any other coach and GM would be fired, I seriously hope they lose out and can get a top 10 pick, because that is the only way we are going to get some talent on the team, but even then, patfo will stick the lottery pick in Austin for 3 years and wonder why he wants to leave when his rookie contract is up... and get ready for forbes getting a 4 year $50 mil contract...patfo have been exposed and the fans are the ones paying the price.


:toast

add to that, the spurs didn't even want to offer kawhi the super max until they saw him play..way to treat the only finals MVP they had since 2007 :lmao

funny how the spurs got good for the greater part of the 2010s after kawhi got drafted :toast

that LOB mentality :toast

[dude21]

OP. :lmao

[SAGirl]

Comparing the Scumbag saga to the Davis situation and pretending they were similar and the only difference was front office competence or lackthereof, is absurd and revisionist history.

Whether they waited too long to trade him or not, the same reasons that brought his value down existed months earlier too. The bottom line is, he screwed them.
That’s tour point of view. I am not cutting the FO slack like they were some victims. Kawhi played them but they allowed themselves to be played and moreover I just don’t trust the trade they made was the best available for the future.

[ducks]

Tom Orsborn
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Feb 26
Pop shoulders some of the blame for this one: "I think the game plan I came out with was poor, and they took advantage of it in the first quarter." #Spurs

[bagtec]

I legitimately think spurs have a shot at winning 2 games

[TD 21]

That’s tour point of view. I am not cutting the FO slack like they were some victims. Kawhi played them but they allowed themselves to be played and moreover I just don’t trust the trade they made was the best available for the future.

The co-most connected insider in the industry described the outcome as "no bidding war; this was the best offer on the table", meanwhile another among the most connected termed it a "discount price".

You tell me how a should be top handful asset in the league going for that is not squarely on his shoulders.

[Darius Bieber]

No Orlando game thread? I’ve been pinked for some reason so I can’t start threads, but three minutes to game time and still nothin?