View Full Version : PSA: Fox Sports programming to leave YouTube TV on 02-29-20
objective
02-27-2020, 09:27 PM
Heads up for anyone using YouTube TV or thinking about switching over.
Starting February 29, 2020, you will no longer be able to watch live, on demand, or recorded content from your local FOX Regional Sports Network or YES Network.
18 of the remaining 25 games are scheduled for Fox Sports. That number could change if ESPN or TNT drop the Spurs from their national games as they tumble out of serious contention for the 8th seed.
baseline bum
02-27-2020, 09:28 PM
Damn to think they'd miss the conclusion to such an exciting season.
WTF bro. I literally just cut the chord with DISH because they didn't have FSSW either and was going to go with just YouTubeTV from here on out. They really couldn't have waited until the end of the NBA season?
:pctoss
And yet, the NBA still wonders why viewership is falling and people are leaving paid platforms for other options. :spin
slick'81
02-27-2020, 09:40 PM
I didnt even know youtube had a tv service
objective
02-27-2020, 09:46 PM
WTF bro. I literally just cut the chord with DISH because they didn't have FSSW either and was going to go with just YouTubeTV from here on out. They really couldn't have waited until the end of the NBA season?
:pctoss
I believe Hulu TV is the only remaining streaming TV service with FSSW. But I don't have it yet, so I can't swear to it.
I believe Hulu TV is the only remaining streaming TV service with FSSW. But I don't have it yet, so I can't swear to it.
Yeah, looks like it. Playstation Vue had them but they just shutdown. I'll probably switch to hulu tomorrow. Sucks though because I really liked YouTubeTV's platform.
offset formation
02-27-2020, 10:14 PM
Yeah, looks like it. Playstation Vue had them but they just shutdown. I'll probably switch to hulu tomorrow. Sucks though because I really liked YouTubeTV's platform.
Same.
talkspurs
02-27-2020, 10:14 PM
I wish Fox would launch a channel like ESPN does. ESPN I think charges $5. Would love for fox to charge like 2.99 or something like that.
I wish Fox would launch a channel like ESPN does. ESPN I think charges $5. Would love for fox to charge like 2.99 or something like that.
That would be ideal but I'm not sure that would cover the bills for them. I'm sure most of the contracts they agreed to with the NBA, NFL, NCAA, etc are under the assumption that their channels are lumped into tv packages of a lot of people that don't watch sports.
I don't think ESPN offers a standalone service either. They only offer ESPN+ but that's just for content that doesn't make it on their main channels. I have ESPN+ for CUSA college football.
TimDunkem
02-27-2020, 10:51 PM
Wow. So everyone has lost Fox Sports except Hulu and your local cable monopoly.
TimDunkem
02-27-2020, 10:57 PM
Yeah, looks like it. Playstation Vue had them but they just shutdown. I'll probably switch to hulu tomorrow. Sucks though because I really liked YouTubeTV's platform.
Same. I'm going to miss the unlimited DVR and some shows I was able to stream through the service. Now I'm left with no real good option. Not that Hulu with TV is bad, but it won't be worth the switch to me just to catch the last couple of games.
TimDunkem
02-27-2020, 11:04 PM
I didnt even know youtube had a tv service
A real shame because it was the best one.
phxspurfan
02-27-2020, 11:30 PM
Cant u access the sports channels with the Fox app
objective
02-27-2020, 11:33 PM
Same. I'm going to miss the unlimited DVR and some shows I was able to stream through the service. Now I'm left with no real good option. Not that Hulu with TV is bad, but it won't be worth the switch to me just to catch the last couple of games.
unlimited dvr was the best. I added every college team before the season to be dvr'd, in anticipation of reviewing as many prospects as possible for the draft. Don't think I'll keep it long enough to even see where the Spurs pick in the lottery.
Hulu last I checked had a 50 hour limit.
objective
02-27-2020, 11:34 PM
Cant u access the sports channels with the Fox app
I think you need a current subscription to a qualifying service to get access, and YouTube TV will soon no longer have that access.
talkspurs
02-27-2020, 11:34 PM
That would be ideal but I'm not sure that would cover the bills for them. I'm sure most of the contracts they agreed to with the NBA, NFL, NCAA, etc are under the assumption that their channels are lumped into tv packages of a lot of people that don't watch sports.
I don't think ESPN offers a standalone service either. They only offer ESPN+ but that's just for content that doesn't make it on their main channels. I have ESPN+ for CUSA college football.
I was talking about ESPN+ as I thought it was ESPN + other things but you are correct it is not the main ESPN. I think FSN might be able to do it if they charged enough. I know they use to charge less then ESPN when they were on sling. Also they would gain people that currently either dont watch or steam service through unpaid means. I have heard they cant do that currently as their contracts prevent that but when it comes up again that may change.
TimDunkem
02-28-2020, 12:08 AM
unlimited dvr was the best. I added every college team before the season to be dvr'd, in anticipation of reviewing as many prospects as possible for the draft. Don't think I'll keep it long enough to even see where the Spurs pick in the lottery.
Hulu last I checked had a 50 hour limit.
For sure. It's the only reason I'll come back to it. I put my subscription on pause so I can keep my recordings saved until I return to it after the season. I do it begrudgingly though considering YouTube TV won't exactly be lowering their prices after losing Fox Sports.
:lol I had just canceled YouTube TV at the beginning of this month so Feb was going to be my last month anyway. I wasn’t going to waste my time watching Pop coach this team anymore this year. Haven’t really been watching full games this year anyway. Mainly watched in fast forward with the dvr.
Last year I had Sling which also has FSSW, but they have horrible buffering. I could never make it through a game without some sort of glitch.
TimDunkem
02-28-2020, 12:22 AM
:lol I had just canceled YouTube TV at the beginning of this month so Feb was going to be my last month anyway. I wasn’t going to waste my time watching Pop coach this team anymore this year. Haven’t really been watching full games this year anyway. Mainly watched in fast forward with the dvr.
Last year I had Sling which also has FSSW, but they have horrible buffering. I could never make it through a game without some sort of glitch.
Sling doesn't have it anymore either. And the NBA wonders why the ratings keep dropping...You literally have next to no options to catch your local team.
Keepin' it real
02-28-2020, 12:23 AM
Fox sports picked the right time for this. Can you imagine shit like this happening during the Duncan dynasty??
DPG21920
02-28-2020, 09:27 AM
It’s not just for TX. FS did this for ALL FS in the country.
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ChumpDumper
02-28-2020, 11:30 AM
And yet, the NBA still wonders why viewership is falling and people are leaving paid platforms for other options. :spin
Sling doesn't have it anymore either. And the NBA wonders why the ratings keep dropping...You literally have next to no options to catch your local team.It's not directly an NBA issue. Sinclair is apparently demanding quite a bit more money than Fox was and the carriers had to drop the channels after their previous contracts ended.
gameFACE
02-28-2020, 11:45 AM
Muthaf'r, we just switched to YouTubeTV a month ago. Had all the channels that my wife watches. I was okay with the service but will have to switch again. Anyone have Directv Now or fuboTV? Sling and Hulu don't have all the channels the wife watches.
So in 2017 the Spurs extended the fox/Sinclair offer four more years. That was when we were good lol, surely the Spurs won't seek to end the Sinclair contract until they have to.
SAGirl
02-28-2020, 12:08 PM
Fox sports picked the right time for this. Can you imagine shit like this happening during the Duncan dynasty??
The Duncan Dynasty is really the best term. :clap
ZeusWillJudge
02-28-2020, 01:11 PM
It's not directly an NBA issue. Sinclair is apparently demanding quite a bit more money than Fox was and the carriers had to drop the channels after their previous contracts ended.
LOL. "Sinclair be da debil".
League revenues are up what... almost 250% in eight years? Sooner or later, somebody has to pay for that. But let's single Sinclair out because, you know, reasons.
MannyIsGod
02-28-2020, 03:14 PM
LOL. "Sinclair be da debil".
League revenues are up what... almost 250% in eight years? Sooner or later, somebody has to pay for that. But let's single Sinclair out because, you know, reasons.
What do league revenues have to do with how much Sinclair charges carriers like YouTube TV? There's a reason almost no one is carrying their service right now. The NBA is only a fraction of their total package anyway.
MannyIsGod
02-28-2020, 03:21 PM
It's not directly an NBA issue. Sinclair is apparently demanding quite a bit more money than Fox was and the carriers had to drop the channels after their previous contracts ended.
It is as long as the NBA has stupid blackout rules on their League Pass though. They force you to go through a middle man to get their product if you're in the SA market.
exstatic
02-28-2020, 03:55 PM
Fox sports picked the right time for this. Can you imagine shit like this happening during the Duncan dynasty??
You understand that it's not just FSSW, right? It's ALL of their regional channels.
ChumpDumper
02-28-2020, 05:02 PM
LOL. "Sinclair be da debil".
League revenues are up what... almost 250% in eight years? Sooner or later, somebody has to pay for that. But let's single Sinclair out because, you know, reasons.:lol I'm singling out Sinclair because they own the regional Fox Sports networks. Are you blaming the NHL and MLB too? Sinclair is working under the contracts Fox had made with NBA teams, so it's not like their costs suddenly skyrocketed. Their debt did go up to buy the networks for ~$10 billion.
ChumpDumper
02-28-2020, 05:04 PM
It is as long as the NBA has stupid blackout rules on their League Pass though. They force you to go through a middle man to get their product if you're in the SA market.And? It's not like the NBA is producing coverage of those games. I don't know if Sinclair is being unreasonable; I only know everyone dropped them after they took over ownership.
MannyIsGod
02-29-2020, 12:22 AM
And? It's not like the NBA is producing coverage of those games. I don't know if Sinclair is being unreasonable; I only know everyone dropped them after they took over ownership.
And the NBA is forcing the main consumers to a company that has shit practices so they share in part of the blame. The NBA is producing coverage of those games, what are you talking about? They license the coverage out to specific carriers, but they retain the right to it. They choose to make it so you have to go through Sinclair to get the game unless you live outside of a market but it doesn't belong to Sinclair. Its an NBA property at all times.
MannyIsGod
02-29-2020, 12:28 AM
FYI it seems as though YoutubeTV came to a temporary extension so hopefully they won't be gone tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1233578974443339776
DJR210
02-29-2020, 12:45 AM
I expect them to make a deal soon.. Google has to know they are going to have a ton of sports fans looking to catch games and you have to assume they don't want everyone running to Hulu or AT&T for streaming Fox regionals..
ChumpDumper
02-29-2020, 12:55 AM
And the NBA is forcing the main consumers to a company that has shit practices so they share in part of the blame. The NBA is producing coverage of those games, what are you talking about? They license the coverage out to specific carriers, but they retain the right to it. They choose to make it so you have to go through Sinclair to get the game unless you live outside of a market but it doesn't belong to Sinclair. Its an NBA property at all times.Of course it's an NBA property at all times. I'm not sure how you knew Sinclair's practices with streaming companies would be shit before they bought the networks, but OK.
MannyIsGod
02-29-2020, 12:59 AM
Of course it's an NBA property at all times. I'm not sure how you knew Sinclair's practices with streaming companies would be shit before they bought the networks, but OK.
It doesn't matter if they knew before, the NBA has pushed us into an out dated distribution system with their practices so of course they share part of the blame. Not sure why this is such a hard point for you to grasp but whatever.
Chillen
02-29-2020, 02:38 AM
It's going to get ugly for people streaming in the next 10 years, no longer will most stuff be free, it's going to get worse as more and more people cut the cord. I stream but I mainly look for highlights of basketball games and I have the NBA tv app. Keep all your physical movies, sports, games and music. Love how simple it is to just pop in a disc or whatever instead of dealing with like 20 streaming services to find something to watch.
FYI it seems as though YoutubeTV came to a temporary extension so hopefully they won't be gone tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1233578974443339776
Hell yeah. A lot of us cried to DISH about not carrying the Fox Sports regional channels for months and they haven't done shit about it. Glad YouTubeTV listens to its customers. This makes me like them even more. :tu
ChumpDumper
02-29-2020, 04:10 AM
It doesn't matter if they knew before, the NBA has pushed us into an out dated distribution system with their practices so of course they share part of the blame. Not sure why this is such a hard point for you to grasp but whatever.:lol nobody bitched about distribution until most of the streaming services dropped the Sinclair-owned networks.
ZeusWillJudge
02-29-2020, 01:33 PM
What do league revenues have to do with how much Sinclair charges carriers like YouTube TV? There's a reason almost no one is carrying their service right now. The NBA is only a fraction of their total package anyway.
LOL. Don't worry - Tio Bernie is gonna give you the NBA for free. And he's gonna shut Sinclair down cus they're fascist. I read it on the internet.
ZeusWillJudge
02-29-2020, 01:44 PM
:lol I'm singling out Sinclair because they own the regional Fox Sports networks. Are you blaming the NHL and MLB too? Sinclair is working under the contracts Fox had made with NBA teams, so it's not like their costs suddenly skyrocketed. Their debt did go up to buy the networks for ~$10 billion.
I'm not griping about anything. I just said that every time the NBA's revenues go up, somebody is going to pay for it. Sooner or later, a portion of it (at least) gets passed along to the fans. Can't happen any other way.
Sinclair doesn't get to raise their distro rates in the middle of a contract. But if they have to pay more for rights, that's going to get passed on to streamers like YouTube when the next contract gets negotiated. They paid something close to double to the Cubs for rights to those games. People are bitching about Sinclair asking for more, but somehow they don't notice that a lot of the increase has already gone to the club? :lol
And for the record, they're demonizing Sinclair because they tend toward conservative politics. Google it, and you'll find a few hundred hits before you get sick of looking. Sinclair be da debil.
ChumpDumper
02-29-2020, 02:21 PM
Sinclair doesn't get to raise their distro rates in the middle of a contract.The middle of whose contract?
All anyone can say is Fox ownership, no blackouts. Sinclair ownership, blackouts. Both are politically conservative, so that can be dropped.
stu scotts eye
02-29-2020, 07:23 PM
See.. this is why I've never jumped on the trend of killing cable. Live sports. From NFL, college, to spurs games, you have to buy a hodge podge of services to ensure you might have a chance to view it.
See.. this is why I've never jumped on the trend of killing cable. Live sports. From NFL, college, to spurs games, you have to buy a hodge podge of services to ensure you might have a chance to view it.
Not really. Until this recent Fox Sports issue, YouTubeTV was great with live sports. I'm guessing the other streaming services are just as good.
It's also not like this Fox Sports issue is exclusive to streaming services. Sinclair is playing hardball with even the big cable/satellite companies. DISH lost Fox Sports before the NBA season even began. It's some of the other random channels you have to worry about. The gf loves MTV for example, and YouTubeTV doesn't have it.
No contracts and the streaming makes it super easy to switch between streaming services too. No installation/returning of equipment and no fees to get out of a contract.
What's not to like about YouTubeTV? DISH has sat on their ass without the Fox Sports regional channels for almost a year. They lost HBO before that and never got it back. YouTubeTV saw their customers' reactions after announcing they were losing FSSW and immediately did something about it.
This has earned them a bunch of loyalty points from me, tbh.
DPG21920
03-05-2020, 11:56 PM
Youtube tv is great
UncleDennis
03-06-2020, 02:37 PM
Youtube tv is great
I'm thinking about making that switch, my cable bill is insane.
DPG21920
03-06-2020, 11:54 PM
I'm thinking about making that switch, my cable bill is insane.
I have Google Fiber internet and YouTube TV and its great. Don’t miss cable at all and way better watching on the road capabilities.
MannyIsGod
03-07-2020, 08:29 AM
:lol nobody bitched about distribution until most of the streaming services dropped the Sinclair-owned networks.
You're crazy if you think people haven't been bitching about that since before streaming was even this big, but OK.
ChumpDumper
03-07-2020, 12:32 PM
You're crazy if you think people haven't been bitching about that since before streaming was even this big, but OK.Of course they bitched before streaming was big. What a weird straw man.
I guess you can tell me your proposal for distribution that provides the kinds of guaranteed income the current model does for the league and teams. I think it probably already would've started happening with the decline of cable, but networks are paying more for the smaller pieces of viewership pie so who knows?
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