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SASdynasty!
03-08-2020, 10:07 PM
So glad this team tied the all-time playoff streak record. After tonight’s loss, pretty slim chance at getting 23, which was really the only thing to compete for this season.

Thanks to Tim, Tony, Manu, Kawhi, and the coaches and role players that made it happen, with the 5 championships along the way. Truly an accomplishment, especially seeing the modern dynasties like the Warriors, Lakers, and Bulls flame out so quickly.

Here’s to the next generation and the hopes to get back to the playoffs in a few years. It was a good run tbh.

Darius Bieber
03-08-2020, 10:11 PM
There’s really nothing to look forward to. When the streak started we already had Robinson, Elliot, and other pieces to build around. This time around, we have trash. Spurs will be the new Knicks and be bottom feeders until the team relocates.

GAustex
03-08-2020, 10:13 PM
How fortunate Spurs fans have had it!
Glorious times in the past where every year there was a chance.
Sad how hard it’s has crashed under poop’s drunk dementia.
It was a good run. Thanks Tim Duncan!

Floyd Pacquiao
03-08-2020, 10:20 PM
It was a great run. One of the greatest in the history of Sports, tbh.

spurs10
03-09-2020, 12:05 AM
So glad this team tied the all-time playoff streak record. After tonight’s loss, pretty slim chance at getting 23, which was really the only thing to compete for this season.

Thanks to Tim, Tony, Manu, Kawhi, and the coaches and role players that made it happen, with the 5 championships along the way. Truly an accomplishment, especially seeing the modern dynasties like the Warriors, Lakers, and Bulls flame out so quickly.

Here’s to the next generation and the hopes to get back to the playoffs in a few years. It was a good run tbh. :bobo

paperboy77
03-09-2020, 12:40 AM
Sad but the only news SA is gonna make is when they’re actually eliminated from the playoffs. ESPN will be all over that shit... for about a day.

Ed Helicopter Jones
03-09-2020, 04:34 AM
ZaZa started the dominos falling when he took out Kawhi in the PO. Everything fell to sh!t pretty much after that. Franchise killer.

EasyMoney
03-09-2020, 04:42 AM
Sad but the only news SA is gonna make is when they’re actually eliminated from the playoffs. ESPN will be all over that shit... for about a day.



Yep and when they do talk about it they wont mention pops terrible coaching, they wont mention the injuries they're suffering from right now.

Killakobe81
03-09-2020, 07:24 AM
ZaZa started the dominos falling when he took out Kawhi in the PO. Everything fell to sh!t pretty much after that. Franchise killer.

Kawhi went hard at Pop, with no Vaseline...
Patfo made a bad deal under duress...
Maybe if clips were the final destination for KL, harris gallo and the two firsts or some combo would have been a better foundation for a Spurs rebuild... but what's done is done.
Another competitive first round loss would be even worse than a sweep, tbh, because Patfo could run it back and justify it. Missing the playoffs forces the team to take a harder look at the team in the summer.

Atl Spur
03-09-2020, 07:52 AM
Kawhi went hard at Pop, with no Vaseline...
Patfo made a bad deal under duress...
Maybe if clips were the final destination for KL, harris gallo and the two firsts or some combo would have been a better foundation for a Spurs rebuild... but what's done is done.
Another competitive first round loss would be even worse than a sweep, tbh, because Patfo could run it back and justify it. Missing the playoffs forces the team to take a harder look at the team in the summer.
Idk...... Kinda think Keldon & Poodle will be nice pieces.

cd98
03-09-2020, 10:02 AM
Well I guess the Spurs are not going to have to worry about crowd control for the coronavirus for the rest of the regular season after the latest nosedive.

MultiTroll
03-09-2020, 10:14 AM
It's a great accomplishment.

Very sad ending, but still a great accomplishment that won't be matched for a long time. If ever.

exstatic
03-09-2020, 10:31 AM
There’s really nothing to look forward to. When the streak started we already had Robinson, Elliot, and other pieces to build around. This time around, we have trash. Spurs will be the new Knicks and be bottom feeders until the team relocates.

You would have to legitimately try in order to be as awful as the Knicks for as long. If you make ANY effort, you'll be much better than the Knicks, who's owner can't stop stepping on his schlong.

TDomination
03-09-2020, 10:39 AM
I was glad to be a witness to the greatest NBA franchise/dynasty of all time. This franchise had the greatest PF of all time and IMO a top 5 in NBA History in Timmy Duncan.

The way things went down with Kawhi truly sucked the life out of us. It was nice making it back to the playoffs last year but either we overachieved last year or everyone just figured us out this year. Oh well, bound to happen at some point. If these 3 things happen this summer I will be ecstatic about next year.

No Pop, No Forbes and either Becky, Timmy, Udoka or a former assistant under Pop becomes the Head Coach

ZeusWillJudge
03-09-2020, 11:08 AM
It was inevitible. The big mistake was in not seeing the handwriting on the wall 2-3 seasons ago. I would trade the record streak (tie) for being contenders again without a thought. That's what PATFO gave up.

The league just announced that the cap for next season will be around $115M. Right now, if DDR opts in and they let Forbes and Poeltl walk for nothing, the Spurs have $118M committed for next season. But wait! They can go over the cap to re-sign their own players, right? Yep. So they will. And the team will look a hell of a lot like what it does right now.

But...but... what if DDR opts out? Well then the Spurs will have $25M worth of cap space. Sort of. They'll have $25M less the $3.5M they will be paying their draft pick. And less the $10M, give or take, that Pop gives Forbes. So $11.5M to hire someone, assuming he doesn't give Forbes even more. And if they decide to sign Poeltl for just $5M? That will leave a whopping $6.5M to go out and hire a difference maker.

spurspl
03-09-2020, 11:13 AM
id like to remind u all that if pop didnt lose his mind and sent kawhi to lal, streak would be alive

heyheymymy
03-09-2020, 12:01 PM
Maybe the other shitty coaches plan a year at a time but pop looks at things multiple seasons at once. The guy seamlessly transitioned from the Duncan big 3 era with a meticulously planned and orchestrated design. Kawhi was engineered to be the new anchor. I will acknowledge his own work ethic, but i was there in 2011 and this guy was a raw talent with a slow wonky release and 32% from corners and chip and pop reprogrammed kawhi and his shot. We built that guy. Our pre existing legacy put him in a position to learn deep early. He was sought out, cultivated and honed by the spurs program. The fact that he had strong work ethic just put him in a position to capitalize on what the spurs provided.

I believe there was a financial scheme to pry him from san Antonio and install him in LA. I believe he was complicit and the league itself facilitated the move. Look at the Rams immediate success as soon as they relocated to LA. The city is starved for sports legitimacy and it's leaking cash as long as it's not a dominant competetive market.

I fear this is part of a multi year plan to dry out small market outliers and ultimately condense the league. Nola, SA, memphis, think of teams that gave star power up recently.

So now pop is trying to run a multi year model, with it's anchor cog now on a different team in LA, and he is caught in the undertow of trying to modify a deeply complex scheme with personnel it was not originally intended for. These strategies come from tremendous amounts of data, so now he has to run garbage lineups just to meet a data minimum to run it in advanced metrics and see what the numbers suggest.

We already had all that data with kawhi, now we start over with shittier pieces that generate less novel data to base xs and os off of and people wonder why the spurs look shitty. He has a superstar sized hole in his fucking roster that he was not planning on losing like this. Give him back his SF and see how pops coaching looks. Cause last time we legit had him we were raping the Ws.

paperboy77
03-09-2020, 12:56 PM
It was inevitible. The big mistake was in not seeing the handwriting on the wall 2-3 seasons ago. I would trade the record streak (tie) for being contenders again without a thought. That's what PATFO gave up.

The league just announced that the cap for next season will be around $115M. Right now, if DDR opts in and they let Forbes and Poeltl walk for nothing, the Spurs have $118M committed for next season. But wait! They can go over the cap to re-sign their own players, right? Yep. So they will. And the team will look a hell of a lot like what it does right now.

But...but... what if DDR opts out? Well then the Spurs will have $25M worth of cap space. Sort of. They'll have $25M less the $3.5M they will be paying their draft pick. And less the $10M, give or take, that Pop gives Forbes. So $11.5M to hire someone, assuming he doesn't give Forbes even more. And if they decide to sign Poeltl for just $5M? That will leave a whopping $6.5M to go out and hire a difference maker.

Don't forget about Gasol and Carols money!

heyheymymy
03-09-2020, 01:30 PM
Agree taking DDR was a big mistake and i knew it the day that deal went down. But every time i look at that deal and think what could have been- deals with clipppers that look better in hindsight- i am reminded how much i like poetl and you don't get him without the DDR deal.

ZeusWillJudge
03-09-2020, 01:41 PM
Don't forget about Gasol and Carols money!


I counted it in the numbers, but it's a fair point. They were paying the ghost of Gasol $5.1m this year. Next year they'll be paying the ghost of Carrol $6.1M.

itzsoweezee
03-09-2020, 02:16 PM
Didn't expect the streak to be over due to sheer incompetence, but here we are.

exstatic
03-09-2020, 02:19 PM
Didn't expect the streak to be over due to sheer incompetence, but here we are.

It would have taken sheer perfection for it to continue. We're not exactly gushing with talent, and we're not particularly close to that 8 spot.

DPG21920
03-09-2020, 02:38 PM
It’s just wild to me that a team can be so results oriented to where they are blind to everything else. Half the teams in the league make the playoffs; like it’s good to be a playoff team but is it really that big of an accomplishment when so many teams get in?

Sure, if you are in the upper half of the bracket it is, but how anyone, let alone coaches and front office can be swayed so much by just making the playoffs is baffling to me.

The crazy thing is? That’s exactly what happens. You can win 38 games, make the playoffs and that is somehow a good sign to teams. But if you win 38 and miss the playoffs? Time for the overhaul.

Sorry, playoffs or not, you aren’t comfortably above 500 you need to seriously consider changing things.

EasyMoney
03-09-2020, 02:48 PM
Agree taking DDR was a big mistake and i knew it the day that deal went down. But every time i look at that deal and think what could have been- deals with clipppers that look better in hindsight- i am reminded how much i like poetl and you don't get him without the DDR deal.



I agree. 2 lottery picks plus tobias. I would not have minded letting tobias walk too if he still wanted his full max. Getting SGA and whoever else they would have wanted. Along with lonnie.

Robz4000
03-09-2020, 02:49 PM
I was glad to be a witness to the greatest NBA franchise/dynasty of all time. This franchise had the greatest PF of all time and IMO a top 5 in NBA History in Timmy Duncan.

The way things went down with Kawhi truly sucked the life out of us. It was nice making it back to the playoffs last year but either we overachieved last year or everyone just figured us out this year. Oh well, bound to happen at some point. If these 3 things happen this summer I will be ecstatic about next year.

No Pop, No Forbes and either Becky, Timmy, Udoka or a former assistant under Pop becomes the Head Coach

Can't just be any former Pop assistant; there's been some god awful ones like Boylen. Only Pop assistants I'd want taking over are Bud, Brett, Becky, Tim, or Udoka. Otherwise go with someone like Atkinson.

exstatic
03-09-2020, 03:44 PM
I agree. 2 lottery picks plus tobias. I would not have minded letting tobias walk too if he still wanted his full max. Getting SGA and whoever else they would have wanted. Along with lonnie.

They didn't offer both picks, just one, and it was in the range where people are bitching about ours being this year.

TDomination
03-09-2020, 04:19 PM
Can't just be any former Pop assistant; there's been some god awful ones like Boylen. Only Pop assistants I'd want taking over are Bud, Brett, Becky, Tim, or Udoka. Otherwise go with someone like Atkinson.
True, boylen was terrible.
I wasn't too high on Messina either but wasn't sure if he was ever a legit candidate for us.

i always wished Bud to be our next HC. Once he got with the bucks and with Giannis, i knew that thought was forever gone. He's in a good situation there.

itzsoweezee
03-09-2020, 04:31 PM
It would have taken sheer perfection for it to continue. We're not exactly gushing with talent, and we're not particularly close to that 8 spot.

Haha, they're shifting the goalposts now.

The team that won 48 games last year suddenly has no talent?

Any talent shortfalls are due to the incompetent front office.

But the biggest factor, by far, in the Spurs underachieving is the horrible coaching job by popovich. He might be the worst coach in the NBA at this point. What a fall.

exstatic
03-09-2020, 04:38 PM
Haha, they're shifting the goalposts now.

The team that won 48 games last year suddenly has no talent?

Any talent shortfalls are due to the incompetent front office.

But the biggest factor, by far, in the Spurs underachieving is the horrible coaching job by popovich. He might be the worst coach in the NBA at this point. What a fall.

We didn't have a ton of talent last year, and were 7th, dead tied for 8th. The year before, we finished in 7th, tied for 8th, and one game ahead of the Nuggets, who had the tiebreaker. Had we lost the last game, we would have ended the streak two years sort of Portland. It's not a sudden fall.

rascal
03-09-2020, 07:20 PM
How fortunate Spurs fans have had it!
Glorious times in the past where every year there was a chance.
Sad how hard it’s has crashed under poop’s drunk dementia.
It was a good run. Thanks Tim Duncan!

It is not Pop's coaching. The team just is not good enough talent wise and it is going to take some trips to the lottery to stock up on some talent and with some luck land another franchise player.

Can Spur fans support losing seasons or is the team going to have to relocate.

rascal
03-09-2020, 07:23 PM
They didn't offer both picks, just one, and it was in the range where people are bitching about ours being this year.

Yes, two picks were offered in the end(close to the draft). The Spurs showed no interest. Had the Spurs insisted on getting two picks then it would have been a done deal but they showed no interest.

The Spurs were not proactive in chasing down offers to make a deal because they did not want to trade Leonard.

Marc Stein

League sources say the Clippers have been trying to lure the Spurs into Kawhi Leonard trade talks with an offer featuring their two lotto picks and Tobias Harris, but it appears they'll be making the 12th and 13th pick for themselves — with Michael Porter Jr. still on the board.

League sources said yes, the spurs said no but the spurs were not proactive in trying to make a trade, that is why nothing happened until later.

I would have gone after the number 10 pick with Phil in a trade with the 13th pick and taken Mikal Bridges at 10 and then draft Michael Porter at 13.

tholdren
03-09-2020, 07:23 PM
It is not Pop's coaching. The team just is not good enough talent wise and it is going to take some trips to the lottery to stock up on some talent and with some luck land another franchise player.

Can Spur fans support losing seasons or is the team going to have to relocate.
Coronavirus will make them relocate

rascal
03-09-2020, 09:22 PM
Nobody really cares about 22. When you have Duncan for as long as they had him you are going to make the playoffs all those years. Spurs success is directly a result of Duncan.

Now let's see how good the front office is without Duncan.

Spurtacular
03-10-2020, 04:18 AM
There was really no reason to not get 23 if we weren't going to tank right, imo.

SASdynasty!
03-10-2020, 02:48 PM
There was really no reason to not get 23 if we weren't going to tank right, imo.
Exactly...why not go for a record that will probably never be broken than move up a couple spots in the draft?

Spurtacular
03-10-2020, 05:35 PM
Exactly...why not go for a record that will probably never be broken than move up a couple spots in the draft?

I think Marcus Morris backing out and losing Bertans ripped Gregg's heart out. I have no other explanation for starting Forbes/Lyles all season on a half ass tank job.

anonymouse
03-25-2020, 07:08 PM
Edit: Nvm. I guess it does.

If the season were to end, will that keep the record intact?