I am a Trump supporter but...

[DC23]

Due to the CoronaVirus, the perceived handling of the situation, and the recent the stock market collapse I believe it is highly unlikely he is reelected unless the situation gets under control quickly. Prior to the CoronaVirus outbreak his reelection was all but a slamdunk. Amazing what can happen in just 2 short weeks.

[Thread]

At least we ain't lamenting President Hillary Clinton right now.

[Spurs Homer]

Due to the CoronaVirus, the perceived handling of the situation, and the recent the stock market collapse I believe it is highly unlikely he is reelected unless the situation gets under control quickly. Prior to the CoronaVirus outbreak his reelection was all but a slamdunk. Amazing what can happen in just 2 short weeks.

yes or no

will you drink the poison upon trumps order?

[DC23]

yes or no

will you drink the poison upon trumps order?
I don't get it. Come again?

[Reck]

So this is the excuse the right is going with?

[hater]

At least we ain't lamenting President Hillary Clinton right now.

Giuseppe

[picnroll]

You lost me at I am a Trump supporter.

[Spurs Homer]

I don't get it. Come again?

You are in a CULT -

I want to know the honest answer -

When your cult leader orders you to drink the poison and follow him to heaven - or wherever there are porn stars you and he can Raw Dog -

will you obey him and drink the fucking poison?

yes or no?

[DMC]

You lost me at I am a Trump supporter.

Didn't need you anyhow.

[DMC]

So this is the excuse the right is going with?

Better than "It's Bernie's fault" amirite?

[DC23]

You are in a CULT -

I want to know the honest answer -

When your cult leader orders you to drink the poison and follow him to heaven - or wherever there are porn stars you and he can Raw Dog -

will you obey him and drink the fucking poison?

yes or no?
Honestly have no idea what you're talking about lol

[Spurs Homer]

Didn't need you anyhow.

lol

Defending
Muh
Cult Leader

[Spurs Homer]

Honestly have no idea what you're talking about lol

jeeezus

just ask the next MAGA ass hat - next time -

then they can explain it to you - and provide you with the cyanide capsule -

cheers!

[picnroll]

Didn't need you anyhow.

Are you:
A retarded Trump fan?
A religious fanatic Trump fan?
A cynical, corrupt rich Trump fan?

Please check the category that applies.

[Blake]

Didn't need you anyhow.

Op trying to discuss, not campaign

[Will Hunting]

At least we ain't lamenting President Hillary Clinton right now.
The Dems would be in all kinds of deep shit right now if Hillary were president during this debacle imo. She was never popular to begin with so she’d be a weak incumbent and Republicans would have a super majority in the senate + a sizeable lead in the House.

With Hillary the Republicans enter the 2018 midterms with 52 senators (never losing Alabama). They likely hold onto AZ + NV, still pick up the 4 seats they picked up (Fl, MO, ND and IN) and have 9 other very winnable races that they only need to win 4 of for a super majority.

Wed be looking at a blank check for Republicans to do whatever they want in 2021 if Hillary was president.

[Reck]

Better than "It's Bernie's fault" amirite?

Looking in hindsight, I now see it wouldn't have matter because those voters wouldn't vote for God on the ballot.

[boutons_deux]

"his reelection was all but a slamdunk"

Trash barely won in 2016, lost by 2.8M votes, won by 80K votes in 3 states.

He's LOST voters since then, not gained them.

Biden's personal popularity (ask Anita Hill) and familiarity will be impossible for Trash to counter.

==================

Relax, Donald Trump Can’t Win

Even before you get to his campaign’s incompetence and lackluster fundraising, the numbers just aren’t on his side.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/trump-cant-win/ (https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/trump-cant-win/)

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If You Really Think Trump Is Favored in 2020, You Haven’t Thought It Through

Consider this argument:

Trump squeaked out his victory in the Electoral College by the smallest (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/hillary-clinton-margin-loss-votes) of margins, despite losing the popular vote by a large amount. If he loses any voters from battleground states in 2020, he must make them up somewhere else, or he loses the election.



Trump was aided in 2016 by several highly unlikely events which will not be repeated in 2020 … suggesting he will lose voters compared to his first campaign.


Trump’s approval ratings have never been higher than when he was elected, suggesting he has lost people who voted for him the first time.


Democratic turnout will be higher in 2020 than it was in 2016.


Therefore Trump can’t make up the voters he has lost since 2016.


Therefore Trump will lose in 2020.


https://medium.com/the-national-discussion/if-you-really-think-trump-is-favored-in-2020-you-havent-thought-it-through-50516e2fc23f (https://medium.com/the-national-discussion/if-you-really-think-trump-is-favored-in-2020-you-havent-thought-it-through-50516e2fc23f)

[ducks]

You think biden can debate trump ?

Biden will debate sanders Sunday

[boutons_deux]

You think biden can debate trump ?

Biden will debate sanders Sunday

Biden will tell Trash to eat shit

[ChumpDumper]

Due to the CoronaVirus, the perceived handling of the situation, and the recent the stock market collapse I believe it is highly unlikely he is reelected unless the situation gets under control quickly. Prior to the CoronaVirus outbreak his reelection was all but a slamdunk. Amazing what can happen in just 2 short weeks.:lmao look at this stupid motherfucker you support:

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[spurraider21]

:lmao look at this stupid motherfucker you support:

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:lmao what a buffoon

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao what a buffoon:lol I had to read the article in full to make sure the tweet author wasn't making a joke.

[baseline bum]

:lmao look at this stupid motherfucker you support:

1237849023790239752

LMAO at Cuckner being the real president

[DMC]

Looking in hindsight, I now see it wouldn't have matter because those voters wouldn't vote for God on the ballot.

So Bernie = God

[Reck]

So Bernie = God

Umm no. Bernie's own supporters didn't go vote for him this time. So how will they vote for x in the general?

Biden has found himself a little nice coalition with the disaffected suburban voters which I hope offsets these Bernie lovers.

[Thread]

Umm no. Bernie's own supporters didn't go vote for him this time. So how will they vote for x in the general?

Biden has found himself a little nice coalition with the disaffected suburban voters which I hope offsets these Bernie lovers.

...unfortunately Bernie lovers won't give a 2nd thought to voting for Biden once Sanders is officially out.

[Spurtacular]

So this is the excuse the right is going with?

:lol Cocky tranny

[Th'Pusher]

At least we ain't lamenting President Hillary Clinton right now.

There’s a greater than zero chance we wouldn’t be in this predicament had HRC won the EC like she won the popular.

[Spurtacular]

Didn't need you anyhow.

:lmao picnroll

[Spurtacular]

There’s a greater than zero chance we wouldn’t be in this predicament had HRC won the EC like she won the popular.

Yea, she really would've kept China and/or Iran in check. Amirite?

[Spurtacular]

:lmao look at this stupid motherfucker you support:

1237849023790239752

:lol "Reportedly"
:lol Lite running with his mentor's narrative

[Trill Clinton]

:lmao look at this stupid motherfucker you support:

1237849023790239752

Wow wtf

[boutons_deux]

There’s a greater than zero chance we wouldn’t be in this predicament had HRC won the EC like she won the popular.

America would be a much better place with Pres Hillary than the shithole Trash and the Repugs have delivered and continue to fuck up.

[Thread]

America would be a much better place with Pres Hillary than the shithole Trash and the Repugs have delivered and continue to fuck up.

Corona wouldn't even have happened.

[pgardn]

I amend my doubt in the estimate of 450,000 deaths after reading who Trump will be trusting with the situation. Jared, not the subway guy who should also be a major advisor for the Jared who can’t run a business.

Jared did such a nice job on the Palestinian-Israeli peace agreement... we follow that tremendous success and all the boomers die.

[picnroll]

All Trump’s moves are targeted on trying to keep the stock market up. What a fucking leader in a time of crisis. Churchill 2.0.

[DMC]

Umm no. Bernie's own supporters didn't go vote for him this time. So how will they vote for x in the general?

Biden has found himself a little nice coalition with the disaffected suburban voters which I hope offsets these Bernie lovers.

There's a segment of the population that just won't vote regardless. I am in and out of that segment.

[DMC]

I amend my doubt in the estimate of 450,000 deaths after reading who Trump will be trusting with the situation. Jared, not the subway guy who should also be a major advisor for the Jared who can’t run a business.

Jared did such a nice job on the Palestinian-Israeli peace agreement... we follow that tremendous success and all the boomers die.

Add a couple "Repugs" and "nitters" and you're Boutons hotfix 31220

[DMC]

America would be a much better place with Pres Hillary than the shithole Trash and the Repugs have delivered and continue to fuck up.

Then blame yourself.

[TheGreatYacht]

Relax OP. Coronavirus is a hoax. I can't wait till this Coronavirus (flu) hysteria gets old and ppl get back to their normal lives. I'm so disappointed in president Trump for getting manipulated into this shit. Fucking puppet.

The worst that can happen is Marshall law and worldwide quarantine. You can blame all the gullible and sheep masses for falling for this crap. Seems like we never learn from our mistakes and keep believing what MSM shoves down our throats. Whatever the Zionist elites have cooking :stirpot: for us is well deserved.

[DMC]

Relax OP. Coronavirus is a hoax. I can't wait till this Coronavirus (flu) hysteria gets old and ppl get back to their normal lives. I'm so disappointed in president Trump for getting manipulated into this shit. Fucking puppet.

The worst that can happen is Marshall law and worldwide quarantine. You can blame all the gullible and sheep masses for falling for this crap. Seems like we never learn from our mistakes and keep believing what MSM shoves down our throats. Whatever the Zionist elites have cooking :stirpot: for us is well deserved.

Marshall law? Is that a new sheriff?

[Winehole23]

Wow wtfit's called leadership.

[koriwhat]

Jared did such a nice job on the Palestinian-Israeli peace agreement...

how'd prior admins do?

it's all gloom & doom and a bunch of "don't bring up the past". it's always the same game...

[koriwhat]

America would be a much better place with Pres Hillary than the shithole Trash and the Repugs have delivered and continue to fuck up.

yep, you're definitely mentally insane.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Dude openly gaslighting the entire US population now.


“Frankly, the testing has been going very smooth,” Trump said. “If you go to the right agency, if you go to the right area, you get the test.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/12/coronavirus-testing-127016

[Spurtacular]

:lol Dude openly gaslighting the entire US population now.



https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/12/coronavirus-testing-127016

Mitt Romney good now.

[DMC]

Fat, lazy and otherwise unhealthy Americans blaming the POTUS for their lack of preparedness against a virus. Running to the stores to hoard toilet paper and hand sanitizers, ramen and ground beef. No single leader can save you from yourselves. Some of you will be the low hanging fruit, some won't. The virus will reap accordingly.

[Spurminator]

Fat, lazy and otherwise unhealthy Americans blaming the POTUS for their lack of preparedness against a virus. Running to the stores to hoard toilet paper and hand sanitizers, ramen and ground beef.

Just because you disagree with these two things doesn't mean these are all the same people.

From my observations I would guess the Venn diagram of "people paying enough attention to criticize the President for objectively false claims" and "people hoarding toilet paper" doesn't have much crossover.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Grump (Grumpy Uncle Joe) is basically a poor man's Trump in every which way, even down to the babbling, stumbling, foot-in-mouth personalities.

[TheGreatYacht]

Fat, lazy and otherwise unhealthy Americans blaming the POTUS for their lack of preparedness against a virus. Running to the stores to hoard toilet paper and hand sanitizers, ramen and ground beef. No single leader can save you from yourselves. Some of you will be the low hanging fruit, some won't. The virus will reap accordingly.

Coronavirus is not deadly. Trump should have sticked to his guns. He gave in like an obedient little puppy. He folded.

Trump declared national emergency and all the Trumptards and rednecks finished what little food was left at the grocery stores.

"But daddy Trump wouldn't dare lie to us :cry"

Trump pushing for flu shots and vaccines now. I wonder how many of his boomer low IQ supporters will go along and how many of them will realize that he's just another shill like his predecessors...bailouts.

Let that sink in :tu

[ElNono]

Fat, lazy and otherwise unhealthy Americans blaming the fat, lazy and otherwise unhealthy POTUS for their lack of preparedness against a virus.

fify

[DMC]

Coronavirus is not deadly. Trump should have sticked to his guns. He gave in like an obedient little puppy. He folded.

Trump declared national emergency and all the Trumptards and rednecks finished what little food was left at the grocery stores.

"But daddy Trump wouldn't dare lie to us :cry"

Trump pushing for flu shots and vaccines now. I wonder how many of his boomer low IQ supporters will go along and how many of them will realize that he's just another shill like his predecessors...bailouts.

Let that sink in :tu

It's not deadly?

Sorry, my maturity has inoculated me from bullshit. That cannot sink in.

[DMC]

Just because you disagree with these two things doesn't mean these are all the same people.

From my observations I would guess the Venn diagram of "people paying enough attention to criticize the President for objectively false claims" and "people hoarding toilet paper" doesn't have much crossover.

You're entitled to your guesses.

[FrostKing]

If the economy bombed randomally then maybe there was an opening. But nearly every problem Trump will face has a built in excuse.

Anyway I expect voter turnout to be lower in 2020 and I think that is a huge advantage for the incumbent. Many people will be too preoccupied to focus on "petty" political issues anyway. Democrats wasted too much of the 1st term to pull of a victory at the 11th hour

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's not deadly?

Sorry, my maturity has inoculated me from bullshit. That cannot sink in.

He misspoke. The correct terminology is... COVID-19 is deadly, but it is not lethal (such as Ebola or H5N1 Bird Flu) since the mortality rate for COVID-19 / SARS 2 is quite low.

[RandomGuy]

Honestly have no idea what you're talking about lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

It is the origin of the "you are drinking the koolaid" saying.

Drinking the Koolaid= doing what the cult leader says, even if it kills you

Many have observed that devotion to Trump has started to observe many parallels in cults to that of Trump devotion.

[RandomGuy]

https://medium.com/@zelphontheshelf/10-signs-youre-probably-in-a-cult-1921eb5a3857


1. The leader is the ultimate authority
If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
Check.



2. The group suppresses skepticism
If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.

Check.


3. The group delegitimizes former members
If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.

Check.


4. The group is paranoid about the outside world
If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults position themselves as the sole refuge from an evil outside world that is intent on their destruction. Cults thrive on conspiracy theories, catastrophic thinking, and persecution complexes.

Check.


5. The group relies on shame cycles
If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
Cult leaders trap members in shame cycles by imposing abnormally strict codes of conduct (usually prescriptions about diet, appearance, sex, relationships, media), guilting members for their shortcomings, and then positioning themselves as the unique remedy to the feelings of guilt which they themselves created.

hnmm. No.


6. The leader is above the law
If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
A prevalent idea among cult leaders is that they are above the law, be it human or divine. This idea allows them to exploit their followers economically and sexually without repercussions.

Check.


7. The group uses “thought reform” methods
If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
Indoctrination or “brainwashing” is the process through which a cult slowly breaks down a person’s sense of identity and ability to think rationally. Behaviors like excessive fasting, prayer, hypnosis, scripture reading, chanting, meditation, or drug usage can all be used to increase a person’s vulnerability to the leader’s suggestions.

hmmm, no as well.


8. The group is elitist
If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults see themselves as the enlightened, chosen, and elect organization tasked with radically transforming individual lives and the entire world.

Close one, but check.


9. There is no financial transparency
If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
A group that refuses to disclose its finances is a huge red flag. Ethical organizations have nothing to hide. Cult leaders tend to live opulently while their followers are required to make financial sacrifices. Members are often encouraged to pay their offerings even if it means putting their families at risk.

Check.


10. The group performs secret rites
If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults use secret rituals as rites of passage that solidify a member’s loyalty to the group. Initiation into these rites usually only comes after a member has undergone certain tests or made adequate financial contributions.

Not that I am aware of.

Trump devotion gets seven out of 10.

[RandomGuy]

Coronavirus is not deadly. Trump should have sticked to his guns. He gave in like an obedient little puppy. He folded.

Trump declared national emergency and all the Trumptards and rednecks finished what little food was left at the grocery stores.

"But daddy Trump wouldn't dare lie to us :cry"

Trump pushing for flu shots and vaccines now. I wonder how many of his boomer low IQ supporters will go along and how many of them will realize that he's just another shill like his predecessors...bailouts.

Let that sink in :tu

The stupid... it burns. GAAAAAHHHH

[RandomGuy]

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/03/lou-dobbs-goes-full-north-korean-media

Lou Dobbs asks viewers:


How would you rate Trumps response to the Coronavirus?

SUPERB
GREAT
VERY GOOD

https://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2020/03/lou-dobbs-poll-asks-if-trump-s

:rolleyes

[Reck]

If the economy bombed randomally then maybe there was an opening. But nearly every problem Trump will face has a built in excuse.

Anyway I expect voter turnout to be lower in 2020 and I think that is a huge advantage for the incumbent. Many people will be too preoccupied to focus on "petty" political issues anyway. Democrats wasted too much of the 1st term to pull of a victory at the 11th hour

Not really panning out, is it?

[RandomGuy]

Anyway I expect voter turnout to be lower in 2020

Care to make a gentleman's wager on that?

Even with this virus bouncing around, Turn out will be VERY heavy, and substantially higher than 2016.

Pick a charity. I will donate $100 bucks to that charity if turnout is at all lower than 2016, based on nationwide vote totals.

If it is more than 5% higher in 2020 than it was in 2016, you have to donate $100 to your local food bank.

[FrostKing]

Not really panning out, is it?
How so? I haven't been tuned in. What's up?

[FrostKing]

Care to make a gentleman's wager on that?

Even with this virus bouncing around, Turn out will be VERY heavy, and substantially higher than 2016.

Pick a charity. I will donate $100 bucks to that charity if turnout is at all lower than 2016, based on nationwide vote totals.

If it is more than 5% higher in 2020 than it was in 2016, you have to donate $100 to your local food bank.
Okay. We will discuss this more as November nears. What factors do you think encourage turnout?

[RandomGuy]

Okay. We will discuss this more as November nears. What factors do you think encourage turnout?

Visceral hatred of Donald Trump and slavish devotion to Donald Trump.

There are more Democrats than Republicans, and Democrats tend to vote at lower rates, so increases in turnout almost invariably favor Democrats. By November, we will be well down on the curve for the COVID-19 virus.

I have never, ever seen Democrats more motivated and organized.

(edit)

I think the turnout is already baked in. I don't see much affecting it, even with everything going on. Remember the wager is over turnout, not who wins the election itself.

[Reck]

How so? I haven't been tuned in. What's up?

Based on the primaries low turnout hasn't been the case. It's been higher than 2016 primaries. And even the last sets of primaries which took place in the middle of every city shutting down it saw decent numbers. Definitely down by this year's standards but higher than 2016.

[RandomGuy]

Based on the primaries low turnout hasn't been the case. It's been higher than 2016 primaries. And even the last sets of primaries which took place in the middle of every city shutting down it saw decent numbers. Definitely down by this year's standards but higher than 2016.

I think a lot of people know Trump is going to lose. Some Republicans voted for Bernie to be dicks, and some voted Democrat so they could have a voice in the Democratic nominee/next president. Quite a few people who have been lifelong Republicans have been interviewed about their choices for just that reason.