Private Healthcare

[Will Hunting]

When does everyone think our beloved private healthcare system is going to be able to sufficiently test people with symptoms?

[DMC]

I say by May 15th at 1:45 p.m. Eastern Standard Time

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/Csj26Q8/48-EBBA36-819-C-45-D4-A793-2-A1-D180-E3-DEB.jpg

[hater]

our leaders dont care about testing anymore tbqh

they know most will get this so testing for this will be a futile job and waste of money (according to them) plus bad news for their reelections.

testing is a joke now.

[Darth_Pelican]

our leaders dont care about testing anymore tbqh

they know most will get this so testing for this will be a futile job and waste of money (according to them) plus bad news for their reelections.

testing is a joke now.

Plus if you don't have the coronavirus and you just have the common cold, and you go to a testing facility, you'll probably get the virus by standing in line with a bunch of infected people breathing on you. Just stay home till your symptoms go away if you're a healthy adult.

[baseline bum]

Plus if you don't have the coronavirus and you just have the common cold, and you go to a testing facility, you'll probably get the virus by standing in line with a bunch of infected people breathing on you.

Which is why we need free public drive through testing like South Korea has. Instead of denial, denial, denial and testing and numbers suppression like Iran.

[Darth_Pelican]

Which is why we need free public drive through testing like South Korea has. Instead of denial, denial, denial and testing and numbers suppression like Iran.

True, but if you're feeling sick and are a healthy non-senior citizen adult, why even venture out and risk spreading the virus? There's an 80% chance that your symptoms will be mild enough to just ride it out at home. If sick, serve your 14 day sentence at home until you're healthy or until you feel too sick to self preserve.

[boutons_deux]

Plus if you don't have the coronavirus and you just have the common cold, and you go to a testing facility, you'll probably get the virus by standing in line with a bunch of infected people breathing on you. Just stay home till your symptoms go away if you're a healthy adult.

If you are sick and refuse to get tested, then self-isolation, "social distancing" is the best tactic, but very few people, esp low-paid hourly workers, can stay home because they lose pay, maybe lose their job, then their house, car, apt. There are about 50M Americas in dead-end, low-paid, hourly jobs.

"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), 82 million people were paid hourly rates in 2018. "

[Darth_Pelican]

If you are sick and refuse to get tested, the self-isolation, "social distancing" is the best tactic, but very few people, esp low-paid hourly workers, can stay home because they lose pay, maybe lose their job, then their house, car, apt. There are about 50M Americas in dead-end, low-paid, hourly jobs.

"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), 82 million people were paid hourly rates in 2018. "

I feel you. But if they go and get tested positive, they won't be able to go to work anyways. I'm surprised that number is only 50M btw. Seems like there are plenty more deadbeats than that.

[Monostradamus]

True, but if you're feeling sick and are a healthy non-senior citizen adult, why even venture out and risk spreading the virus? There's an 80% chance that your symptoms will be mild enough to just ride it out at home. If sick, serve your 14 day sentence at home until you're healthy or until you feel too sick to self preserve.
Lots of people will need documented proof of having coronavirus to get their paid sick leave.

[baseline bum]

True, but if you're feeling sick and are a healthy non-senior citizen adult, why even venture out and risk spreading the virus? There's an 80% chance that your symptoms will be mild enough to just ride it out at home. If sick, serve your 14 day sentence at home until you're healthy or until you feel too sick to self preserve.

Why get in your car and get a test? Are you serious? If I have a fever and a light cough I'd like to know whether it's something I need to be extra vigilant about should the SARSCov2 test come back positive.

[Thread]

Lots of people will need documented proof of having coronavirus to get their paid sick leave.

Yep, and a lot of people ain't gonna want that...that's why a lot of people won't test. & you ain't gonna force a lot of people to test.

[Thread]

Why get in your car and get a test? Are you serious? If I have a fever and a light cough I'd like to know whether it's something I need to be extra vigilant about should the SARSCov2 test come back positive.

Yes, I am. I'm going to take it for granted (for a myriad of reasons) that it is Corona. I'm gonna hunker down on the couch and time it out. & I ain't tellin' a soulPERIOD

[baseline bum]

Yep, and a lot of people ain't gonna want that...that's why a lot of people won't test. & you ain't gonna force a lot of people to test.

Hence the need for temporary paid sick leave and a temporary universal basic income to encourage the sick to stay home. But we're just going to keep on like a carbon copy of Iran as we have been doing the whole year.

[boutons_deux]

I feel you. But if they go and get tested positive, they won't be able to go to work anyways. I'm surprised that number is only 50M btw. Seems like there are plenty more deadbeats than that.

your so-called deadbeats? holy fucking shit

why do companies create so many fucking deadbeat, dead-end, no paid sick time off, no vacation, stolen wages and unpaid overtime, no health insurance, etc,?

Those "deadbeats" Laborers, including illegal Labor loved by companies, are the fucking bedrock of the inhumane, brutal Capitalism

[Thread]

Hence the need for temporary paid sick leave and a temporary universal basic income to encourage the sick to stay home. But we're just going to keep on like a carbon copy of Iran as we have been doing the whole year.

They still won't test.

You're gonna put your faith in a gov't over a month's pay? You know how many hoops you'll have to jump thru to get that month of pay? From that moment on you're ID'ed as having (it) ever more.

No-fuckin'-way.

[RandomGuy]

https://i.ibb.co/Csj26Q8/48-EBBA36-819-C-45-D4-A793-2-A1-D180-E3-DEB.jpg

1.5 trillion dollars in emergency liquidity farted into the hurricane to almost no effect.

Yet paying for school lunches for all US school children... to much of an ask.

[TeyshaBlue]

1.5 trillion dollars in emergency liquidity farted into the hurricane to almost no effect.

Yet paying for school lunches for all US school children... to much of an ask.

https://slate.com/business/2020/03/federal-reserve-bond-market-wall-street-trillion.html?fbclid=IwAR3duRCceAmBIzaXl0WCYFiadto klfdOjbrgOtYfYfM4bCVIot-SzhwruZc

[boutons_deux]

Why can't the Fed buy up all the "toxic" student debt, like it bought all the BigFinance's toxic assets in 2009, and then refinance the student debt at 0.5%?

or

why doesn't the Fed put all the student debt into a "bad bank" like the Fed did in 2009?

why not? Because BigFinance created, owns, and staffs the Fed for its won purposes. That the Fed is "independent" is bullshit

[RandomGuy]

1.5 trillion dollars in emergency liquidity farted into the hurricane to almost no effect.

Yet paying for school lunches for all US school children... to much of an ask.



No, the Fed Did Not Just Give Stock Traders $1.5 Trillion (https://slate.com/business/2020/03/federal-reserve-bond-market-wall-street-trillion.html)


Didn't say they did. They injected that much in the short-term repo market. Just to be clear. Sorry to rain on your gotcha moment, if that was your intent. I understand the nuances, as does anyone with a degree in economics, like AOC. :D

My point, as well as AOC's stands though, in that we can find trillions to attempt to prop up financial markets, but suddenly can't seem to find the wherewithal to help poor kids.

[SnakeBoy]

Didn't say they did. They injected that much in the short-term repo market. Just to be clear. Sorry to rain on your gotcha moment, if that was your intent. I understand the nuances, as does anyone with a degree in economics, like AOC. :D

My point, as well as AOC's stands though, in that we can find trillions to attempt to prop up financial markets, but suddenly can't seem to find the wherewithal to help poor kids.

That's just invented money that will ultimately be returned and removed from the Fed's balance sheet (in theory). If you want to give money directly to people you need a funding source (taxes).

[RandomGuy]

That's just invented money that will ultimately be returned and removed from the Fed's balance sheet (in theory). If you want to give money directly to people you need a funding source (taxes).

Which will be a lot harder to do, because stupid mother fuckers cut taxes on the hyperwealthy when the economy was humming along.

Quite frankly though, at the moment the US government could probably loan money at negative interest rates and get away with it. Seems like a good funding source IMO, espeicaly one that offers a much greater chance at improving economic performance than giving massive amounts of money to people whose marginal propensity to save approaches 1.

[RandomGuy]

That's just invented money that will ultimately be returned and removed from the Fed's balance sheet (in theory). If you want to give money directly to people you need a funding source (taxes).

... and mandatory paid leave will keep people who are living paycheck to paycheck at home, flattening the curve. Socialism FTW. Suck it.

Single payor would provide all manner of preventive/curative care, so that people who get sick, might have a chance to get health care to avoid spreading it, flattening the curve. Socialism FTW. Suck it.

"conseravtive" policies will kill people in pandemics. Capitalism kills. Suck it.

[Will Hunting]

https://slate.com/business/2020/03/federal-reserve-bond-market-wall-street-trillion.html?fbclid=IwAR3duRCceAmBIzaXl0WCYFiadto klfdOjbrgOtYfYfM4bCVIot-SzhwruZc
Lending $1.5 trillion of dirt cheap money to the banks is a handout no matter how much you slice it. The fact a bunch of rubes think the fed has literally given $1.5 trillion away doesn’t change that.

[SnakeBoy]

... and mandatory paid leave will keep people who are living paycheck to paycheck at home, flattening the curve. Socialism FTW. Suck it.

Single payor would provide all manner of preventive/curative care, so that people who get sick, might have a chance to get health care to avoid spreading it, flattening the curve. Socialism FTW. Suck it.

"conseravtive" policies will kill people in pandemics. Capitalism kills. Suck it.

:lol

Sorry bout Bernie

[boutons_deux]

"conseravtive" policies will kill people ...

NOW in red/slave states that have not expanded Medicaid (thanks, Roberts you fucking asshole).

15K+ more deaths, higher mortality rates in those states for lack of Medicaid vs had they expanded Medicaid.

Repugs guilty of NEGLIGENT MANSLAUGHTER

And states that expanded Medicaid have seen poor people with health care re-enter the work force.

[TeyshaBlue]

Didn't say they did. They injected that much in the short-term repo market. Just to be clear. Sorry to rain on your gotcha moment, if that was your intent. I understand the nuances, as does anyone with a degree in economics, like AOC. :D

My point, as well as AOC's stands though, in that we can find trillions to attempt to prop up financial markets, but suddenly can't seem to find the wherewithal to help poor kids.

lol settle down, Sparky. Wasn't trying to engineer a gotcha moment...you will know when I do so dont worry so much. Just ran across the article and thought it was worth sharing...Jeebus. :rolleyes

[ElNono]

When does everyone think our beloved private healthcare system is going to be able to sufficiently test people with symptoms?

Once the funds are released, could be as soon as next week

[Th'Pusher]

Once the funds are released, could be as soon as next week

Ah those sweet public funds being released right inside of our “private” healthcare system.

[RandomGuy]

lol settle down, Sparky. Wasn't trying to engineer a gotcha moment...you will know when I do so dont worry so much. Just ran across the article and thought it was worth sharing...Jeebus. :rolleyes

Just checkin. A bit of commentary other than a link might be helpful in making your point. Just sayin. :D

[AaronY]

:lol

Sorry bout Bernie

:lol

[Will Hunting]

Once the funds are released, could be as soon as next week
:lol so once the government releases public money private healthcare will finally be ready to meet the American people’s needs?

Sounds like socialism, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Here's how the for-profit private sector does health care and employee care

‘Grotesque level of greed’:

Jeff Bezos’ Whole Foods wants workers to pay colleagues’ sick leave during coronavirus

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/grotesque-level-of-greed-jeff-bezos-whole-foods-wants-workers-to-pay-colleagues-sick-leave-during-coronavirus/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3955

[ElNono]

:lol so once the government releases public money private healthcare will finally be ready to meet the American people’s needs?

Sounds like socialism, tbh.

Corporate socialism is a well established practice here in the US, has been for a long time.

[DMC]

:lol so once the government releases public money private healthcare will finally be ready to meet the American people’s needs?

Sounds like socialism, tbh.
Not really.

Public money given to private business is anything but socialism.

[spurraider21]

Not really.

Public money given to private business is anything but socialism.
Corporate socialism

[Millennial_Messiah]

NOW in red/slave states that have not expanded Medicaid (thanks, Roberts you fucking asshole).

15K+ more deaths, higher mortality rates in those states for lack of Medicaid vs had they expanded Medicaid.

Repugs guilty of NEGLIGENT MANSLAUGHTER

And states that expanded Medicaid have seen poor people with health care re-enter the work force.
Italy

[Millennial_Messiah]

Italy
France
Germany

[Millennial_Messiah]

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[Will Hunting]

Not really.

Public money given to private business is anything but socialism.
True, it’s more closely aligned with fascism.