Ronaldo the “fenómeno” skills . . .

[dunkman]

Lu-IsHvTptk

Was actually past his prime when arrived to Real Madrid. His prime was at Barcelona and Inter, before injuries. Unbelievable skill, speed and definition. The best player of his generation, and there were quite a few great players during his playing time (Romario, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Figo, Rivaldo, just to name a few).

[DAF86]

Real Ronaldo.

[lefty]

Real Ronaldo.
Better than Messi tbh

[DAF86]

Better than Messi tbh

Nop. But closer than fake ronaldo for sure.

[Bynumite]

Nop. But closer than fake ronaldo for sure.

That's 5>4 and 1>0 talking.

[dunkman]

Nop. But closer than fake ronaldo for sure.

Messi (or Cristiano Ronaldo) may have better career, but Ronaldo was the better player imo.

[Bynumite]

Ronaldinho > Ronaldo #9, Messi and Cristiano imho, had he stayed on track. On a technical level he was better than all the other 3.

[lefty]

Fat Ronaldo won 2 more WC than Missi tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

Ronaldinho > Ronaldo #9, Messi and Cristiano imho, had he stayed on track. On a technical level he was better than all the other 3.

most important stat is the 4-5year prime...if u can win eucl, wc, euro or copa...and ballons during that time span, hard to beat that peak

[TDMVPDPOY]

(Romario, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Figo, Rivaldo, just to name a few).

figo...interesting name u put there with that group...didnt do shit outside of spain, couldnt win shit with portugal....

[Amuseddaysleeper]

most important stat is the 4-5year prime...if u can win eucl, wc, euro or copa...and ballons during that time span, hard to beat that peak

Messi's peak >>>>> Ronaldo's peak

Ronaldo had luxury of being an absolute ghost in some finals (2014, 2016, didn't play Euro final) and his teammates could finish the job without needing him to play well in a final.

[Bynumite]

Amused trying to rewrite history and failing miserably :lol

Prime Ronaldo 3peat'ed in the CL and topped it off with the Euro. In that time span, he was the CL's top scorer for 5 straight seasons.

Lionel Harden spent his athletic prime winning only lol ligas and routinely choking leads in the CL and finals against Chile :lol

If we're talking peaks, individual numbers + hardware during a player's athletic prime, it's Ronaldo>Midget and it's not even close.

Ronaldo's 2016/17 CL run, was the the most dominant performance i've ever seen by a single player in a top tier tournament.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqSFb5TMSFs

[DAF86]

Imagine trying to convince yourself than Sidenaldo > Messi :lol

[Bynumite]

Imagine trying to convince yourself than Sidenaldo > Messi :lol

Ronaldo's case is solified. His numbers and hardware speak for themselves.

You're one of those idiots that still thinks Rodgers>Brady :lol because :cry muh skillz and flashy passing :cry Meanwhile Brady was the one staging playoff comebacks and coming up with clutch plays, much like Ronaldo.

[DAF86]

Ronaldo's case is solified. His numbers and hardware speak for themselves.

You're one of those idiots that still thinks Rodgers>Brady :lol because :cry muh skillz and flashy passing :cry Meanwhile Brady was the one staging playoff comebacks and coming up with clutch plays, much like Ronaldo.

Yeah, as Messi's shadow forever. Just like everybody knows Lebron and Duncan > Kobe. Your favourite players aren't the best of their generation, just deal with it bro.

[Bynumite]

Yeah, as Messi's shadow forever. Just like everybody knows Lebron and Duncan > Kobe. Your favourite players aren't the best of their generation, just deal with it bro.

Keep telling yourself that. Even some of your brethren is starting to see the light :lol





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-L75vr8EWw

[DAF86]

Keep telling yourself that. Even some of your brethren is starting to see the light :lol





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-L75vr8EWw

lol that same guy said Sidenaldo was a "media invention" after Sidenaldo went fishing in the group stage of the 2010 WC, after scoring just a pity goal in the 7-1 vs North Korea.

Let's just say he lets present results influence his opinion a little too much.:lol Just for the record, Sidenaldo went back to being a glorified poacher in his opinion.

P/S: "Keep telling yourself that" :lol. Dude, you know you are the one swimming against the tide here. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Messi = Giannis

Feast in the weak east and have great stats but has never won anything

Ronaldo = Kawhi

Minus the autist factor, Wins in whatever competition he enters with no stat padding?

Good comparison?
lefty

[Bynumite]

lol that same guy said Sidenaldo was a "media invention" after Sidenaldo went fishing in the group stage of the 2010 WC, after scoring just a pity goal in the 7-1 vs North Korea.

Let's just say he lets present results influence his opinion a little too much.:lol Just for the record, Sidenaldo went back to being a glorified poacher in his opinion.

P/S: "Keep telling yourself that" :lol. Dude, you know you are the one swimming against the tide here. :lol

Let's face it, after a hot start, the 2nd half of midget's career has been extremely underwhelming. I'm sure in your head, you envisioned a lot more for midget (see midget will ring in Russia thread :lol) but your boy always failed to deliver on your expectations and made you settle for lol liga titles instead :lol

The subjective opinions of sports pundits is all you've got left at this point, because Ronaldo surpassed midget in meaningful hardware.

So you can have those opinions, i'll have what really matters:

5>4 and 1>0

Ronaldo>Harden


Let us proceed :wakeup

[DAF86]

Let's face it, after a hot start, the 2nd half of midget's career has been extremely underwhelming. I'm sure in your head, you envisioned a lot more for midget (see midget will ring in Russia thread :lol) but your boy always failed to deliver on your expectations and made you settle for lol liga titles instead :lol

The subjective opinions of sports pundits is all you've got left at this point, because Ronaldo surpassed midget in meaningful hardware.

So you can have those opinions, i'll have what really matters:

5>4 and 1>0

Ronaldo>Harden


Let us proceed :wakeup

The fuck? :lol He's only going to finish as the top scorer and assister of all time, as well as the winningest player of the two most prestigious individual awards: the goden ball and the Golden boot. Quite an underwhelming career second half he's had. :lol

[Bynumite]

The fuck? :lol He's only going to finish as the top scorer and assister of all time, as well as the winningest player of the two most prestigious individual awards: the goden ball and the Golden boot. Quite an underwhelming career second half he's had. :lol


:lol 0-3 finals record for Argentina
:lol No goals or assists in 2 legs vs Juventus 16/17
:lol Blowing a 4-1 lead vs Roma 17/18
:lol Blowing a 3-0 lead vs Liverpool 18/19
:lol Scoring a single penalty and no assists in the 2019 edition of the Copa America
:lol One champions league trophy in 9 seasons

That is an underwhelming 2nd half of midget's career, to say the least. Only delusional midgetfans would say that is not below expectations, specially for the so called GOAT :lol

and you're out of your mind if you think Ronaldo is gonna retire before Lionel Harden, allowing him to become the all time leading scorer :lol Barring injury, that record has Ronaldo's name next to it.

[DAF86]

:lol 0-3 finals record for Argentina
:lol No goals or assists in 2 legs vs Juventus 16/17
:lol Blowing a 4-1 lead vs Roma 17/18
:lol Blowing a 3-0 lead vs Liverpool 18/19
:lol Scoring a single penalty and no assists in the 2019 edition of the Copa America
:lol One champions league trophy in 9 seasons

That is an underwhelming 2nd half of midget's career, to say the least. Only delusional midgetfans would say that is not below expectations, specially for the so called GOAT :lol

and you're out of your mind if you think Ronaldo is gonna retire before Lionel Harden, allowing him to become the all time leading scorer :lol Barring injury, that record has Ronaldo's name next to it.

Sidenaldo can plan whatever he wants but when it's your time, it's your time. Specially for a player so dependent on physical abilities as him. All those years of taking dick on the hidden are probably going to bite him in the ass (npi) with some wierd ass disease. Heck, he probably has coronavirus right now.

[Bynumite]

Sidenaldo can plan whatever he wants but when it's your time, it's your time. Specially for a player so dependent on physical abilities as him. All those years of taking dick on the hidden are probably going to bite him in the ass (npi) with some wierd ass disease. Heck, he probably has coronavirus right now.

You sound upset :lol Ronaldo is finished, that's the argument you're going with? :lol Amused rubbing off on you i see. Ronaldo is nothing like his young self nowadays, he relies more on elite positioning, finding open spaces and short bursts of speed more than anything else. He'll be fine. Your boy is having a worse scoring season despite being younger.

[DAF86]

You sound upset :lol Ronaldo is finished, that's the argument you're going with? :lol Amused rubbing off on you i see. Ronaldo is nothing like his young self nowadays, he relies more on elite positioning, finding open spaces and short bursts of speed more than anything else. He'll be fine. Your boy is having a worse scoring season despite being younger.

Nop, I'm saying that when he's indeed finished, the fall won't be a graceful one. It will look like a post achiles Kobe still taking 25 shot per game thinking that he can still be as good as before untill he's forced to retire.

[Bynumite]

Nop, I'm saying that when he's indeed finished, the fall won't be a graceful one. It will look like a post achiles Kobe still taking 25 shot per game thinking that he can still be as good as before untill he's forced to retire.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. As usual, your takes come from a place of emotion, not logic. Your blind allegiance to your fellow countryman makes you come up with these bad takes. Even when numbers and logic point in the opposite direction.

[dunkman]

What amazes, it’s the finesse while running at unbelievable speed. Besides a great finisher too. One leg over the ball, then the other, then starts running and is gone. All in a fluid sequence.

Arguing who’s better between Messi or Ronaldo, honestly isn’t a clear cut. I tend to think Ronaldo is better, because how do you guard a player that runs so fast and jumps so high. Besides he’s very strong and not easy to tackle. Ronaldo is the better finisher. And strong mentally. Messi while arguably more skilled, tends to play worse, sometimes completely disappears in difficult games, the only exception being the clásicos, that not always define anything.

[DAF86]

What amazes, it’s the finesse while running at unbelievable speed. Besides a great finisher too. One leg over the ball, then the other, then starts running and is gone. All in a fluid sequence.

Arguing who’s better between Messi or Ronaldo, honestly isn’t a clear cut. I tend to think Ronaldo is better, because how do you guard a player that runs so fast and jumps so high. Besides he’s very strong and not easy to tackle. Ronaldo is the better finisher. And strong mentally. Messi while arguably more skilled, tends to play worse, sometimes completely disappears in difficult games, the only exception being the clásicos, that not always define anything.

Yeah, "exception". :lol

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[resistanze]

...wasn't this thread about fat Ronaldo :lmao

Can't even blame COVID-19 for this derail, tbh

[DAF86]

...wasn't this thread about fat Ronaldo :lmao

Can't even blame COVID-19 for this derail, tbh

My bad son. I've been so bored that I've been stirring shit up everywhere. :lol

[DAF86]

BTW, go to the Brees thread and explain why Rodgers is better. :lol

[resistanze]

BTW, go to the Brees thread and explain why Rodgers is better. :lol

James Harden with a ring tbh

[Amuseddaysleeper]

What amazes, it’s the finesse while running at unbelievable speed. Besides a great finisher too. One leg over the ball, then the other, then starts running and is gone. All in a fluid sequence.

Arguing who’s better between Messi or Ronaldo, honestly isn’t a clear cut. I tend to think Ronaldo is better, because how do you guard a player that runs so fast and jumps so high. Besides he’s very strong and not easy to tackle. Ronaldo is the better finisher. And strong mentally. Messi while arguably more skilled, tends to play worse, sometimes completely disappears in difficult games, the only exception being the clásicos, that not always define anything.

Messi is easily much harder to defend than Ronaldo. Ronaldo always had the luxury of his teammate stepping up in the biggest games (like a majority of the finals ronaldo completely dissapeared in). Ronaldo is the luckiest player in football history. He's amazing no doubt, but Messi is in-arguably the better player. His playmaking annihilates Ronaldo and he's just as good of a goal scorer.

[Bynumite]

Messi is easily much harder to defend than Ronaldo. Ronaldo always had the luxury of his teammate stepping up in the biggest games (like a majority of the finals ronaldo completely dissapeared in). Ronaldo is the luckiest player in football history. He's amazing no doubt, but Messi is in-arguably the better player. His playmaking annihilates Ronaldo and he's just as good of a goal scorer.

0-4 record in finals for Argentina with 0 goals in said finals. Looks to me like Lionel Harden is pretty easy to defend imho :lol

If Ronaldo is being carried by his teammates in finals, midget's carried throughout entire knockout stages. See 14 WC and 19 CA where midget was non-existent in the KO stage.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

0-4 record in finals for Argentina with 0 goals in said finals. Looks to me like Lionel Harden is pretty easy to defend imho :lol

If Ronaldo is being carried by his teammates in finals, midget's carried throughout entire knockout stages. See 14 WC and 19 CA where midget was non-existent in the KO stage.

And yet midget was still winning player of the tournaments

If midget missed a crucial game Argentina get pummeled. Ronaldo’s last ten games he’s missed for Portugal have yet to lose a SINGLE time.

Argentina without Messi don’t even qualify for the World Cup. Portugal without ronaldo are still a fantastic team.

[Bynumite]

And yet midget was still winning player of the tournaments

If midget missed a crucial game Argentina get pummeled. Ronaldo’s last ten games he’s missed for Portugal have yet to lose a SINGLE time.

Argentina without Messi don’t even qualify for the World Cup. Portugal without ronaldo are still a fantastic team.

Talking out of your ass, as usual :lol

Argentina is simply more stacked than Portugal and midget's teammates have a far better goal output than Ronaldo's teammates. Which allows midget to disappear throughout entire knockout stages and still comfortably make finals and semis on a regular basis.

Ronaldo had 3 goals and 3 assists when Portugal made the Euro 16 final. Argentina made the Copa America 19 semi-final with midget scoring 1 penalty in the group stage and having 0 assists :lol




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[Amuseddaysleeper]

Talking out of your ass, as usual :lol

Argentina is simply more stacked than Portugal and midget's teammates have a far better goal output than Ronaldo's teammates. Which allows midget to disappear throughout entire knockout stages and still comfortably make finals and semis on a regular basis.

Ronaldo had 3 goals and 3 assists when Portugal made the Euro 16 final. Argentina made the Copa America 19 semi-final with midget scoring 1 penalty in the group stage and having 0 assists :lol




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Being more stacked doesn’t make you the better team, don’t get how you’re so dense.

If Argentina are so stacked why are they beyond awful when Messi doesn’t play for them? Portugal sans ronaldo is still a much much better team than Argentina without Messi.

Imagine being a cheerleader on the sidelines and your team
Doesn’t even need you. Being an absolute passenger also in nations league final but other players still step up. Bernardo Silva does more for Portugal than any non Messi player has done for Argentina in the last 3-4 years

Portugal is a much better team than Argentina.

Portugal’s euro run was one of the jammiest in euro history. Not one win in 90 minutes. Ironic Ronaldo was salty about Iceland having a “small team mentality” when Portugal were absolutely atrocious to watch especially in the knockout stages.

[DAF86]

With all this talk about playing better when it really matters from Sidenaldo's cum guzzlers, one would think that the one with a WC Golden Ball was Sidenaldo, not Messi. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

With all this talk about playing better when it really matters from Sidenaldo's cum guzzlers, one would think that the one with a WC Golden Ball was Sidenaldo, not Messi. :lol

Lol at thinking Messi deserved that award.

:lol

[lefty]

Being more stacked doesn’t make you the better team, don’t get how you’re so dense.

If Argentina are so stacked why are they beyond awful when Messi doesn’t play for them? Portugal sans ronaldo is still a much much better team than Argentina without Messi.

Imagine being a cheerleader on the sidelines and your team
Doesn’t even need you. Being an absolute passenger also in nations league final but other players still step up. Bernardo Silva does more for Portugal than any non Messi player has done for Argentina in the last 3-4 years

Portugal is a much better team than Argentina.

Portugal’s euro run was one of the jammiest in euro history. Not one win in 90 minutes. Ironic Ronaldo was salty about Iceland having a “small team mentality” when Portugal were absolutely atrocious to watch especially in the knockout stages.

:lmao Portugal was nowhere near as good as Argentina in 2016

[Amuseddaysleeper]

:lmao Portugal was nowhere near as good as Argentina in 2016

They won a euro without Ronaldo

They were a hundred times better defensively. Even without Ronaldo they’ve yet to lose in ten straight matches

[Bynumite]

They won a euro without Ronaldo

They were a hundred times better defensively. Even without Ronaldo they’ve yet to lose in ten straight matches

Portugal scored 9 goals in the Euro 2016, Ronaldo had 3 goals and 3 assists in the tournament, meaning he either scored or directly impacted 2/3 of Portugal's goals.

Only Lionel Harden has the luxury of having 0 production in the KO stage and still comfortably make finals because he's surrounded by scorers. Without Ronaldo's 3 goals and 3 assists Portugal doesn't make the final, they wouldn't have made it out of the group stage to begin with :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Portugal scored 9 goals in the Euro 2016, Ronaldo had 3 goals and 3 assists in the tournament, meaning he either scored or directly impacted 2/3 of Portugal's goals.

Only Lionel Harden has the luxury of having 0 production in the KO stage and still comfortably make finals because he's surrounded by scorers. Without Ronaldo's 3 goals and 3 assists Portugal doesn't make the final, they wouldn't have made it out of the group stage to begin with :lol

Messi surrounded by scorers? Wtf are you smoking?! How many goals did those “scorers” get? Portugal failed
To win a SINGLE game within 90 minutes. Jammiest trophy in international history

Oh, and again, without Messi, they don’t get out of the group stage of the World Cup.

Meanwhile Ronaldo gets cucked by South American teams time and time again on the international stage

[lefty]

Portugal scored 9 goals in the Euro 2016, Ronaldo had 3 goals and 3 assists in the tournament, meaning he either scored or directly impacted 2/3 of Portugal's goals.

Only Lionel Harden has the luxury of having 0 production in the KO stage and still comfortably make finals because he's surrounded by scorers. Without Ronaldo's 3 goals and 3 assists Portugal doesn't make the final, they wouldn't have made it out of the group stage to begin with :lol

Don't bother they wlll never understand :lol

[DAF86]

Lol at thinking Messi deserved that award.

:lol

He deserved it enough as to get it, tbh. If Sidenaldo had come, at any point, as close as Messi to getting that award, he would have got it too. But he didn't, tbh.

[DAF86]

Portugal scored 9 goals in the Euro 2016, Ronaldo had 3 goals and 3 assists in the tournament, meaning he either scored or directly impacted 2/3 of Portugal's goals.

Only Lionel Harden has the luxury of having 0 production in the KO stage and still comfortably make finals because he's surrounded by scorers. Without Ronaldo's 3 goals and 3 assists Portugal doesn't make the final, they wouldn't have made it out of the group stage to begin with :lol

Argentina in 2014 scored 8 goals in 7 games. Messi scored or assisted in 6 of those 8 goals. 75% of the goals. :lol

Not to mention, although not actually getting the assist vs Belgium, he was the one that created the goal with a deep pass from behind midfield. So he had direct impact in 7 of the 8 goals. :lol

:lol "Luxury of having no production"
:lol "surrounded by scorers"
:lol your dumb argument getting shit on

[DAF86]

Don't bother they wlll never understand :lol

:lol "They will never understand"
:lol balls slurping gone wrong

[DAF86]

BTW, Portugal has one of the most stacked NT at the moment. Miles ahead of Argentina, starting from the coach. Just go ahead and compare the players, across all positions and seeing where each one plays.

[apalisoc_9]

He deserved it enough as to get it, tbh. If Sidenaldo had come, at any point, as close as Messi to getting that award, he would have got it too. But he didn't, tbh.

erm.

He clearly didn't deserve it. He was very underwheling. Argentina was so shitty offensively in that tournament, it was really the strenght of the their holding midfilders that glued the defense together.

But ok messi fanboy

Diego>>Messi

[lefty]

BTW, Portugal has one of the most stacked NT at the moment. Miles ahead of Argentina, starting from the coach. Just go ahead and compare the players, across all positions and seeing where each one plays.

Not in 2016

[Bynumite]

Bruno Fernandes, Felix and Bernardo Silva weren't on the portuguese squad at the Euro 2016.

Another thing, i like how midgetfans keep acting like the 2019 Copa America never happened. They just completely erased it from their memories :lol FAP and Amused flat out ignore the subject every time i bring it up :lol

Argentina made the semi-final and won the 3rd place game with Lionel Harden having 1 penalty and 0 assists in 6 games :lol If that's not midget being carried by his teammates to a final/semi he had no business being in, i don't know what is :lol

[lefty]

Bruno Fernandes, Felix and Bernardo Silva weren't on the portuguese squad at the Euro 2016.

Another thing, i like how midgetfans keep acting like the 2019 Copa America never happened. They just completely erased it from their memories :lol FAP and Amused flat out ignore the subject every time i bring it up :lol

Argentina made the semi-final and won the 3rd place game with Lionel Harden having 1 penalty and 0 assists in 6 games :lol If that's not midget being carried by his teammates to a final/semi he had no business being in, i don't know what is :lol

That'swhy I said they won’t understand but DAF will shrug it off :lol

[DAF86]

Not in 2016

Hence why I said "at the moment". Try to keep up, tbh. Of course Portugal wasn't stacked in 2016. Flukey ass team didn't win a single game on that tournament. On any semi-serious tournament they wouldn't have made it out of the group stage. :lol

[DAF86]

erm.

He clearly didn't deserve it. He was very underwheling. Argentina was so shitty offensively in that tournament, it was really the strenght of the their holding midfilders that glued the defense together.

But ok messi fanboy

Diego>>Messi


I'll come clean and admit that it's been a joy watching Messi dominate oppositions. He hasn't scored a goal in the knock out stages, but he set up Di Maria and had a hand in Higuain's goal against Belgium. Ultimately, his biggest contribution comes from the fact that he has to be marked and that really limits opponents offensively..His ability to keep CMF's and DMF's play defense 90% is also part of the reason why oppositions are having trouble building up offense. He breaks the connection between offense and defense..Messi is the main gun in offense and part of the reason why they're successful in defending as well.

You might notice him walking in the field in defense and waiting in front, but a close look and you will know that it effectively keeps CMF's and DMF's at bay..which limits other teams to crosses and poor attempts in the middle. I only wish Ronaldo was used in the same sense.

I would also like to comment on all the Ozil hate on this board...Though he has been subpar and hasn't scored much goals or assisted that much, Ronaldo loves him for a reason. I've never seen as good of a player as Ozil in terms of drawing opponets to him to give others the space..There is a reason why he was initially placed in front..

It's unfortunate that get so many idiots that can't appreciate how important that is..Ozil has been phenomenal. Germany has a lot of great subs, but he's still there for a reason. Lowe sees this tbh. Selfless player..Everything is about giving people the opportunity to succeed.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237335&highlight=Messi

"Leo Messi has been the best player in the WC"

lol

[apalisoc_9]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237335&highlight=Messi

"Leo Messi has been the best player in the WC"

lol

scrah that old post is a troll post :lol

[DAF86]

scrah that old post is a troll post :lol

Everything you post is a troll post, tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

can someone explain to me why hasnt players ranked 3-10 havnt taken over guys who are rank 1-2 in the world? those guys always get talked about but dont equate to shit, is it because they dont play on stack teams that win trophies?

[DAF86]

can someone explain to me why hasnt players ranked 3-10 havnt taken over guys who are rank 1-2 in the world? those guys always get talked about but dont equate to shit, is it because they dont play on stack teams that win trophies?

It's because the others aren't as good, tbh.