Why should the cruise line industry get a bailout?

[baseline bum]

They don't employ Americans. They don't get to pretend they're not American companies when the taxman comes but then come with their hands out expecting us to hand them billions. Carnival should go ask Panama for a bailout, Royal Caribbean can go get their bailout from Liberia, and Norwegian can go get their bailout from Bermuda. They don't want to pay taxes here and employ Americans according to US labor laws? Then not our problem when they're going to go belly up.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Prob because they've bribed the politicians

[ElNono]

Coz boomers love those money traps...

[boutons_deux]

Fully agreed.

They are World Champion Tax Evaders,

so fuck 'em when they ask AMERICAN taxpayers to bail out their toxic, pathogenic asses

you missed one:

"All of Disney Cruise Line's ships are officially registered (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience) with the Bahamas."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Cruise_Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Cruise_Line)

As always, taxpayers bail out the companies and people that own the politicians.

Cruise Ships & Lines: Background

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/background.php?ind=T6250

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& Americans would still be getting on the gd things if the lines hadn't quit.

[hater]

Cruise industry is DEAD

nobody will want to board those floating petri dishes after this. you cannot bail out a dead industry. might as well bail out landline telephone industry

its DEAD for a long time minimum 4 years

[hater]

its crazy that the cruise industry went the way of the TITANIC

RIP big gigantic cruise ships

calling it now it will evolve into smaller mini cruise ships but not now maybe in 4 years

[RandomGuy]

They don't employ Americans. They don't get to pretend they're not American companies when the taxman comes but then come with their hands out expecting us to hand them billions. Carnival should go ask Panama for a bailout, Royal Caribbean can go get their bailout from Liberia, and Norwegian can go get their bailout from Bermuda. They don't want to pay taxes here and employ Americans according to US labor laws? Then not our problem when they're going to go belly up.

Eyup.

Fuck 'em.

[Will Hunting]

Cruise industry is DEAD

nobody will want to board those floating petri dishes after this. you cannot bail out a dead industry. might as well bail out landline telephone industry

its DEAD for a long time minimum 4 years
As accurate as floating Petri dish is I like the description of cruise ships as floating golden corrals better :lol

[TimDunkem]

^What's the difference

[Will Hunting]

^What's the difference
Not much of a difference I just think floating Golden Corral does a better job at painting a picture of the slobby white trash you typically see on cruise ships.

[hater]

Not much of a difference I just think floating Golden Corral does a better job at painting a picture of the slobby white trash you typically see on cruise ships.

lotta black folk love cruises tbqh. all you can eat/drink :lol

I never been but seen videos of peeps and at least 30% are big bones black folks

[Will Hunting]

lotta black folk love cruises tbqh. all you can eat/drink :lol

I never been but seen videos of peeps and at least 30% are big bones black folks
Doesn’t surprise me, they’re probably huge Biden supporters :lol

[Xevious]

It isn't that they won't employ Americans, but few Americans are willing to work under those conditions. Shit pay, 8-10 month contracts with ZERO days off, 12-16 hour work days, having to smile as you serve some of the biggest gluts in society. It's probably an awesome job for third-worlders who get all of their living expenses/medical covered by the cruise line as they wire their entire paycheck back home to family.

Regardless... they're going to hurt, but I honestly think the cruise lines (the big ones anyway) are going to be okay. People are still going pack Disney World, casinos, and cruise ships once it is deemed "safe". It's human nature.

They shouldn't get any bailout though.

[DMC]

As accurate as floating Petri dish is I like the description of cruise ships as floating golden corrals better :lol

mein egger

[mrsmaalox]

I cruise A LOT. Its always amusing to hear opinions on cruising from people who have never cruised lol. I agree the cruise industry should not benefit from a bailout, but I think they will recover anyway.

[Blake]

Cruise industry is DEAD

nobody will want to board those floating petri dishes after this. you cannot bail out a dead industry. might as well bail out landline telephone industry

its DEAD for a long time minimum 4 years

Lol the hedge.

[Blake]

As accurate as floating Petri dish is I like the description of cruise ships as floating golden corrals better :lol

Yeah plus second rate entertainment and packed swimming pools

[DMC]

I cruise A LOT. Its always amusing to hear opinions on cruising from people who have never cruised lol. I agree the cruise industry should not benefit from a bailout, but I think they will recover anyway.

With a name like Maalox, the frequent cruising explains a lot.

[TimDunkem]

With a name like Maalox, the frequent cruising explains a lot.

No fucking shit. :lmao

[mrsmaalox]

With a name like Maalox, the frequent cruising explains a lot.

Yea my name has nothing to do with my health (much like the medication “maalox” has nothing to do with diarrhea)—-it was bestowed upon me by a patient who was mad that I kept giving him maalox for his abdominal distress instead of the morphine or demerol he wanted. Not even clever enough to think of Nurse Ratchet :rolleyes

[pgardn]

They are offering themselves up as floating hospitals.

This should scare the crap out of people.
All the college kids playing together on the beaches then nightclubbing in condos, this is were they go when they get sick.

[pgardn]

I cruise A LOT. Its always amusing to hear opinions on cruising from people who have never cruised lol. I agree the cruise industry should not benefit from a bailout, but I think they will recover anyway.

Are there food fights?
Like fat people ramming each other to get at the Lamb?

[Will Hunting]

Are there food fights?
Like fat people ramming each other to get at the Lamb?
:lol I imagine it to be similar to the buffet scene from Nutty Professor II

[hater]

Lol the hedge.

what hedge? this virus will be with us 2–3 years. 1 year for cruise industry to regroup/redesign their ships (smaller/cleaner)

4 years

[hater]

I cruise A LOT. Its always amusing to hear opinions on cruising from people who have never cruised lol. I agree the cruise industry should not benefit from a bailout, but I think they will recover anyway.

you can forget about the massive petri dishes tbqh

that will be a thing of the past

[mrsmaalox]

Are there food fights?
Like fat people ramming each other to get at the Lamb?

:lol I’ve never seen a food fight. The only fights I’ve ever seen are like when people who have been laying in the sun all day drinking and then decide to pick shit with their spouse. You just want to slap them both lol

Fat people arent a problem at the food. The problem is at the elevators. I took my first cruise in 1994 and sooo many things have changed, but not fat people at the elevators. They have to get in before anyone gets out, I don’t know why. And usually its more than one at a time. The absolute worst is fat people on scooters! They are mean. But like in a mall or big hotel, they mostly just impede traffic flow.

[mrsmaalox]

Oh and the only place I have ever been in an elevator that exceeds the weight limits is on a cruise :lol It happens every time. The fat people get all huffy about it and the last person who got on has to get off. They get all mad even cuss everyone out when the doors are closing :lol

[koriwhat]

cruises are decently fun but i always preferred vacationing in one location over that of the ocean on a boat. been on a couple cruises myself but i don't believe they deserve a bailout nor any other big industry like our airlines and def not corporations. last time we did a bailout the ceo's prospered. fuck them all.

[Will Hunting]

cruises are decently fun but i always preferred vacationing in one location over that of the ocean on a boat. been on a couple cruises myself but i don't believe they deserve a bailout nor any other big industry like our airlines and def not corporations. last time we did a bailout the ceo's prospered. fuck them all.
Truth bombs.

The airlines can declare chapter 11 bankruptcy and fight with their lenders about it in court. They were irresponsible with the bailout money they got last time and their lenders were equally as irresponsible for not restricting how bailout money was used. This is a matter for bankruptcy judges to figure out not the American tax payer.

[koriwhat]

Truth bombs.

The airlines can declare chapter 11 bankruptcy and fight with their lenders about it in court. They were irresponsible with the bailout money they got last time and their lenders were equally as irresponsible for not restricting how bailout money was used. This is a matter for bankruptcy judges to figure out not the American tax payer.

indeed. it sucks we sit here on lock down while "we the people" actually own this country but are screwed over time and time again by big corps.

[vy65]

They don't employ Americans. They don't get to pretend they're not American companies when the taxman comes but then come with their hands out expecting us to hand them billions. Carnival should go ask Panama for a bailout, Royal Caribbean can go get their bailout from Liberia, and Norwegian can go get their bailout from Bermuda. They don't want to pay taxes here and employ Americans according to US labor laws? Then not our problem when they're going to go belly up.

As the baby boomer generation ages, look for many other cruise lines to get in on the trend of accommodating them. As time goes by, more and more options will be added to the already-impressive array that is currently out there. Baby boomers have a lot of pull, and they can rest assured that cruise lines will continue to cater to their whims and demands as much as possible.

[Will Hunting]

indeed. it sucks we sit here on lock down while "we the people" actually own this country but are screwed over time and time again by big corps.
In the end you we just know Pelosi and Cocaine Mitch are going to “compromise” on a bailout plan that does absolutely nothing for the American people while the airlines and cruise lines will get bailed out after years of mismanagement stock buybacks and stagnant wages.

[vy65]

Truth bombs.

The airlines can declare chapter 11 bankruptcy and fight with their lenders about it in court. They were irresponsible with the bailout money they got last time and their lenders were equally as irresponsible for not restricting how bailout money was used. This is a matter for bankruptcy judges to figure out not the American tax payer.

One anecdote: I had a case that got thrown into C11 late last year. The Bankruptcy judge was horrible. One of the most blatantly slanted and borderline dishonest judges I've been in front of. Ridiculously pro-debtor. Didn't really give a fuck about any of the creditors, secured or not.

Not saying that that's representative of all bkr judges. But from my limited experience, airlines could still come out of all this in a pretty advantageous position. Obviously, the CEOs and stockholders would get more fucked than a bailout (which is why it will happen), but they'd still receive a "bail out" of sorts in C11.

[koriwhat]

In the end you we just know Pelosi and Cocaine Mitch are going to “compromise” on a bailout plan that does absolutely nothing for the American people while the airlines and cruise lines will get bailed out after years of mismanagement stock buybacks and stagnant wages.

i wouldn't doubt it and it's fucking sickening "we the people" really have no say but are told time and time again that this country is ours. smh

[DMC]

While congress has major shareholders in all these corporations, they are going to vote their own pocketbooks. Good thing they all sold, now they can be unbiased.

[Will Hunting]

One anecdote: I had a case that got thrown into C11 late last year. The Bankruptcy judge was horrible. One of the most blatantly slanted and borderline dishonest judges I've been in front of. Ridiculously pro-debtor. Didn't really give a fuck about any of the creditors, secured or not.

Not saying that that's representative of all bkr judges. But from my limited experience, airlines could still come out of all this in a pretty advantageous position. Obviously, the CEOs and stockholders would get more fucked than a bailout (which is why it will happen), but they'd still receive a "bail out" of sorts in C11.
I’d be ok with that because it would freeze up future credit markets for airlines unless they modified their behavior.

Everyone always views the creditor as an aggrieved party in bankruptcies but in the end they extended credit to airlines that have historically always needed bailouts/relief in an economic downturn. They should have had debt covenants restricting stock buybacks.

[DMC]

i wouldn't doubt it and it's fucking sickening "we the people" really have no say but are told time and time again that this country is ours. smh

The country is ours, we just don't take it.

"They" close ranks and work as a team, we don't. They get the lions share of the rewards because of it, we don't. We are too busy pulling weaves off whores in Walmart.

[vy65]

I’d be ok with that because it would freeze up future credit markets for airlines unless they modified their behavior.

Everyone always views the creditor as an aggrieved party in bankruptcies but in the end they extended credit to airlines that have historically always needed bailouts/relief in an economic downturn. They should have had debt covenants restricting stock buybacks.

Conceptually, I understand the outcry over buybacks. As a beneficiary of some of those, I'm much more ambivalent.

I just don't know how the whole industry is that poorly run.

[mrsmaalox]

you can forget about the massive petri dishes tbqh

that will be a thing of the past

Ha the petri dish thing is the dumbest thing I hear related to cruise ships :lol I’m a critical care/trauma nurse. I’ve worked my entire career in hospitals. I challenge you to find a place in your favorite hospital, say the icu waiting room or the dining room. Sit there for a couple of hours and count the number of cleaning staff that come by cleaning up. Then book yourself a cruise and find a place (anywhere) to sit for a couple of hours and count the number of staff you see coming by mopping and wiping down all surfaces. The disparity will shock you. I’ve done it and never gone more than 3 minutes without seeing someone. Heck in my last ICU our housekeeper also took care of the waiting room. I guarantee some days she never entered it!

[Will Hunting]

Conceptually, I understand the outcry over buybacks. As a beneficiary of some of those, I'm much more ambivalent.

I just don't know how the whole industry is that poorly run.
No accountability/moral hazard is why. Same reason banks were irresponsible in the RMBS heyday, they knew they’d get a bailout when it all came crashing down.

[DMC]

Ha the petri dish thing is the dumbest thing I hear related to cruise ships :lol I’m a critical care/trauma nurse. I’ve worked my entire career in hospitals. I challenge you to find a place in your favorite hospital, say the icu waiting room or the dining room. Sit there for a couple of hours and count the number of cleaning staff that come by cleaning up. Then book yourself a cruise and find a place (anywhere) to sit for a couple of hours and count the number of staff you see coming by mopping and wiping down all surfaces. The disparity will shock you. I’ve done it and never gone more than 3 minutes without seeing someone. Heck in my last ICU our housekeeper also took care of the waiting room. I guarantee some days she never entered it!

Better hope no one here hits you with a black light with all that semen shielding you're doing for cruise liners. Did you have 3 year olds smearing mashed potatoes into the wall fabric of the waiting rooms or did you live in one for 7 days where you couldn't possibly leave? Two completely different scenarios and not mutually exclusive. Cruise ships are cesspools, no need to semen shield for them.

[mrsmaalox]

Better hope no one here hits you with a black light with all that semen shielding you're doing for cruise liners. Did you have 3 year olds smearing mashed potatoes into the wall fabric of the waiting rooms or did you live in one for 7 days where you couldn't possibly leave? Two completely different scenarios and not mutually exclusive. Cruise ships are cesspools, no need to semen shield for them.

I’m not semen shielding, Im just sharing my own experience as opposed to opining on something I haven’t done. Never seen 3 yr olds or any age smear mashed potatoes on any wall anywhere but since you have I take your word on it. You are the expert :toast

[baseline bum]

Truth bombs.

The airlines can declare chapter 11 bankruptcy and fight with their lenders about it in court. They were irresponsible with the bailout money they got last time and their lenders were equally as irresponsible for not restricting how bailout money was used. This is a matter for bankruptcy judges to figure out not the American tax payer.

They need to be broken up. And fuck them spending all their money on stock buybacks. Ever since this shit started getting big in China I have been penny pinching like hell since it was inevitable SARSCov2 was going to get here and spread throughout the entire country. But no why not have gotten a new Escalade and demanded Uncle Sam make my monthly payment? Fuck out of here Delta, United, American, and Southwest.

[koriwhat]

I’m not semen shielding, Im just sharing my own experience as opposed to opining on something I haven’t done. Never seen 3 yr olds or any age smear mashed potatoes on any wall anywhere but since you have I take your word on it. You are the expert :toast

you aren't wrong though as far as cleanliness goes. the people on board are disgusting slobs but the crew cleans religiously from what i witnessed on my 2 cruises.

hospitals are horrible! i've witnessed all sorts of shit in the handful of times i've been to the VA and regular hospitals. when my grandfather was dying and has respiratory problems the nurses left cavicide wipes container wide open. anyone who knows of cavicide, wavicide, madacide, etc knows those agents are harsh to breathe in let alone get on your skin; cancer causing agents that wipe clean hepC and the like from surfaces but should always be kept close and in a safe spot. i use wavicide at the shop, wear gloves at all times, and if i spray a bit too much it feels like my nose is burning on the inside and i get choked up. very harsh agents!

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They need to be broken up. And fuck them spending all their money on stock buybacks. Ever since this shit started getting big in China I have been penny pinching like hell since it was inevitable SARSCov2 was going to get here and spread throughout the entire country. But no why not have gotten a new Escalade and demanded Uncle Sam make my monthly payment? Fuck out of here Delta, United, American, and Southwest.

Just bend the fuck over.

[baseline bum]

In the end you we just know Pelosi and Cocaine Mitch are going to “compromise” on a bailout plan that does absolutely nothing for the American people while the airlines and cruise lines will get bailed out after years of mismanagement stock buybacks and stagnant wages.

The UBI checks are going to have to be there since Trump already promised them and he has absolute zero chance of re-election if he pulls them away now.

[baseline bum]

Just bend the fuck over.

lmcontrollinao

[Thread]

The UBI checks are going to have to be there since Trump already promised them and he has absolute zero chance of re-election if he pulls them away now.

The old man would not bend us over like fuckin' that, bum.

[baseline bum]

The old man would not bend us over like fuckin' that, bum.

Sure he would, but he'd be bending himself over too.

[baseline bum]

They are offering themselves up as floating hospitals.

This should scare the crap out of people.
All the college kids playing together on the beaches then nightclubbing in condos, this is were they go when they get sick.

Take the trip to the Liberia home base and dump 'em.

[Thread]

Sure he would, but he'd be bending himself over too.

But, it's killing him to watch us bend over, bum.

[baseline bum]

what hedge? this virus will be with us 2–3 years. 1 year for cruise industry to regroup/redesign their ships (smaller/cleaner)

4 years

2-3 years? This virus is probably with us for good.

[koriwhat]

2-3 years? This virus is probably with us for good.

for real! anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

[Will Hunting]

2-3 years? This virus is probably with us for good.
Yeah but it’ll just be another annual vaccine we have to take at some point.

[baseline bum]

Yeah but it’ll just be another annual vaccine we have to take at some point.

Yeah pretty much.

[spurraider21]

Yeah but it’ll just be another annual vaccine we have to take at some point.
iirc only about half the country gets an annual flu shot. this one will probably be more prevalent

[Thread]

Yeah pretty much.

Are you adequately bent over, bum?

[Thread]

iirc only about half the country gets an annual flu shot. this one will probably be more prevalent

I ain't ever taken a flu shot & I ain't ever takin' a Corona shot.

[DMC]

I ain't ever taken a flu shot & I ain't ever takin' a Corona shot.

If you bend over I'll take a stab at it.

[hater]

Ha the petri dish thing is the dumbest thing I hear related to cruise ships :lol I’m a critical care/trauma nurse. I’ve worked my entire career in hospitals. I challenge you to find a place in your favorite hospital, say the icu waiting room or the dining room. Sit there for a couple of hours and count the number of cleaning staff that come by cleaning up. Then book yourself a cruise and find a place (anywhere) to sit for a couple of hours and count the number of staff you see coming by mopping and wiping down all surfaces. The disparity will shock you. I’ve done it and never gone more than 3 minutes without seeing someone. Heck in my last ICU our housekeeper also took care of the waiting room. I guarantee some days she never entered it!

and why do you think they have to constantly clean? because they are petri dishes :lol

you are really comparing an ICU to a cruise ship? :lol

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and why do you think they have to constantly clean? because they are petri dishes :lol

you are really comparing an ICU to a cruise ship? :lol

Bend over. I'll give ya a fuckin' petri dish.

[mrsmaalox]

and why do you think they have to constantly clean? because they are petri dishes :lol

you are really comparing an ICU to a cruise ship? :lol

:lol No. Im comparing the public areas of a hospital (dining room, icu waiting room) to a cruise ship

[Blake]

what hedge? this virus will be with us 2–3 years. 1 year for cruise industry to regroup/redesign their ships (smaller/cleaner)

4 years

Lol "dead"

[hater]

:lol No. Im comparing the public areas of a hospital (dining room, icu waiting room) to a cruise ship

dont doubt they clean more

lot of food poisoning incidents on cruises tbqh. now with virus to worry about, RIP giant cruise ships

[Blake]

Ha the petri dish thing is the dumbest thing I hear related to cruise ships :lol I’m a critical care/trauma nurse. I’ve worked my entire career in hospitals. I challenge you to find a place in your favorite hospital, say the icu waiting room or the dining room. Sit there for a couple of hours and count the number of cleaning staff that come by cleaning up. Then book yourself a cruise and find a place (anywhere) to sit for a couple of hours and count the number of staff you see coming by mopping and wiping down all surfaces. The disparity will shock you. I’ve done it and never gone more than 3 minutes without seeing someone. Heck in my last ICU our housekeeper also took care of the waiting room. I guarantee some days she never entered it!

I'm more concerned about food handling than anything else in the boat

[DMC]

Lots of bending over ITT imo

[midnightpulp]

Yeah but it’ll just be another annual vaccine we have to take at some point.

We'll also develop a herd immunity in addition. Quote from the doctor who eradicated smallpox:

Since it's novel, we’re still learning about it. Do you believe that if someone gets it and recovers, that person thereafter has immunity?

So I don't see anything in this virus, even though it's novel, [that contradicts that]. There are cases where people think that they've gotten it again, that's more likely to be a test failure than it is an actual reinfection. But there's going to be tens of millions of us or hundreds of millions of us or more who will get this virus before it's all over, and with large numbers like that, almost anything where you ask “Does this happen?”

Eventually, we will get to the epidemiologist gold ring.

[B]What’s that?

That means, A, a large enough quantity of us have caught the disease and become immune. And B, we have a vaccine. The combination of A plus B is enough to create herd immunity, which is around 70 or 80 percent.

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/

I also think this virus was circulating around the US way before the first reported case. Probably in December. I don't see how such a globally connected country, and to China in particular, got it that late. I tend to believe that there were tens of thousands carriers out there who were asymptomatic to mild that have already recovered, well before we labeled it a crisis. I hope when all is said and done, and the data points are counted (or extrapolated), we'll be looking at something not much more dangerous than the flu, which will calm everyone down.

[mrsmaalox]

I'm more concerned about food handling than anything else in the boat
Yea but the norovirus that takes down cruise ships doesnt necessarily originate from the ship or even from poor food handling practices. Anyone who boards the ship can spread it on surfaces, hence the constant wiping down of everything and the perpetual “wash your hands” psas on board.

[mrsmaalox]

dp again

[Xevious]

Fwiw... the last cruise I went on didn't allow passengers to come into contact with any food at the buffet. Staff had to plate everything for you. Plus they had staff posted at all entrances to food service areas and the kid areas making everybody wash or sanitize their hands before entry (shouldn't be necessary, but people are fucking nasty).

[Xevious]

Ha the petri dish thing is the dumbest thing I hear related to cruise ships :lol I’m a critical care/trauma nurse. I’ve worked my entire career in hospitals. I challenge you to find a place in your favorite hospital, say the icu waiting room or the dining room. Sit there for a couple of hours and count the number of cleaning staff that come by cleaning up. Then book yourself a cruise and find a place (anywhere) to sit for a couple of hours and count the number of staff you see coming by mopping and wiping down all surfaces. The disparity will shock you. I’ve done it and never gone more than 3 minutes without seeing someone. Heck in my last ICU our housekeeper also took care of the waiting room. I guarantee some days she never entered it!
Wipe the floor with a bleach wipe AFTER a housekeeper cleans a hospital room, then look at the wipe. ;)

[koriwhat]

Wipe the floor with a bleach wipe AFTER a housekeeper cleans a hospital room, then look at the wipe. ;)

bleach doesn't help for shit!

[Xevious]

bleach doesn't help for shit!
Required to kill Cdiff on surfaces - so it quite literally does help for shit.

Point is... it doesn't have to be bleach, any wipe can be used, the floors are filthy even after being cleaned.

[Blake]

bleach doesn't help for shit!

Smh. There's no helping stupid people like you. Good luck out there.

[koriwhat]

Smh. There's no helping stupid people like you. Good luck out there.

when's the last time you had to take a blood borne pathogen test or deal with bodily fluids? you know jackshit you faux intellectual but you seem to keep chiming in where you're not needed.

you literally talk from your ass all the time blaKKKe. sit down and stfu already.

[koriwhat]

you claim i'm stupid blaKKKe while also believing hepC will die from bleach. :lmao

does coronavirus die from bleach? doubt it but any precaution is better than nothing. i never said not to do whatever you can to try to minimize its spreading even more from surfaces and whatnot. i simply pointed out that it's basically bullshit.

[Xevious]

does coronavirus die from bleach? doubt it but any precaution is better than nothing. i never said not to do whatever you can to try to minimize its spreading even more from surfaces and whatnot. i simply pointed out that it's basically bullshit.
I didn't mean to start an entire conversation regarding the merits of bleach... it was an inside joke for MrsMaalox. Basically... I was just agreeing that hospitals are fucking disgusting. Once a patient is transferred/discharged, a housekeeper goes in for half an hour and sprays shit down, swiffers the floor, and makes the bed. If you were to follow up behind and wipe down a surface, the towel/wipe will be black. That's all.

[koriwhat]

I didn't mean to start an entire conversation regarding the merits of bleach... it was an inside joke for MrsMaalox. Basically... I was just agreeing that hospitals are fucking disgusting. Once a patient is transferred/discharged, a housekeeper goes in for half an hour and sprays shit down, swiffers the floor, and makes the bed. If you were to follow up behind and wipe down a surface, the towel/wipe will be black. That's all.

you are correct sir. hospitals aren't the sterile environments most would believe them to be.

[TeyshaBlue]

dp again

Let's keep your personal life outta this, okay? :lol

[ElNono]

Let's keep your personal life outta this, okay? :lol

:lol

[baseline bum]

Let's keep your personal life outta this, okay? :lol

Damn it I had a bend over original queued up for that one but let it go

[DMC]

Fwiw... the last cruise I went on didn't allow passengers to come into contact with any food at the buffet. Staff had to plate everything for you. Plus they had staff posted at all entrances to food service areas and the kid areas making everybody wash or sanitize their hands before entry (shouldn't be necessary, but people are fucking nasty).

3rd world staffers carrying exotic illness make it better when they handle your food :lol

[Xevious]

3rd world staffers carrying exotic illness make it better when they handle your food :lol
I trust their hygiene more than fat Americans riding in scooters. Plus one person handling food is a lot less risk for contamination than a hundred people digging through it.

[DMX7]

I like to travel internationally but I’ve never once wanted to go on one of those big ship cruises. Now a private luxury yacht like you see in Monaco would be totally different...

[TeyshaBlue]

Damn it I had a bend over original queued up for that one but let it go

Never pass on the softballs son.

[DMC]

I trust their hygiene more than fat Americans riding in scooters. Plus one person handling food is a lot less risk for contamination than a hundred people digging through it.

That's not the only choices available though :lol

[DMC]

I like to travel internationally but I’ve never once wanted to go on one of those big ship cruises. Now a private luxury yacht like you see in Monaco would be totally different...

I don't want to go on anything for longer than a couple days that I cannot leave if I want.

[baseline bum]

Never pass on the softballs son.

Bend over, I'll give you some soft balls to pass on.