US planning to take over Venezuela to use its oil to recover US economy after Covid

[hater]

https://twitter.com/apjoshgoodman/status/1245425856987660289?s=21

calling it now

war plan on venezuela or a military intervention to take out maduro is underway

many thing happening in last few hours:
- maduro indicted for being a drug dealer (see Manuel Noriega)
- beefing up of forces in the caribbean under pretext of war on drugs
- US asks Guaido to renounce his claim to the presidency


calling it now


Trump wants venezuela to use it to rebuild US economy via war and if successful its oil. also a bonus is serve this as distraction from Orangegutans ineptitude vs a virus

he thinks its going to be easy war

it wont

Venezuela has 1 million armed militians ready in the hills

one more development

- Russia takes over Venezuela oil production from Russian private company


its geeting real

calling it now

[hater]

https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1243720276459708416?s=21

sadly theres a bigger virus than Covid in the world. The US sanctions/military virus

[RandomGuy]

:lol

no. Called it now. Won't happen.

[Winehole23]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/20/united-states-invades-panama-1989-1067072

[SnakeBoy]

We have too much of our own oil Hater.


Nice try though

https://media.giphy.com/media/P4sjB6SI2fErK/giphy.gif

[hater]

We have too much of our own oil Hater.


Nice try though

https://media.giphy.com/media/P4sjB6SI2fErK/giphy.gif

venezuelas oil is like sweet nectar and they have biggest reverve even bigger than Saudi

[SnakeBoy]

venezuelas oil is like sweet nectar and they have biggest reverve even bigger than Saudi

So you're thinking Trump wants to flood an already oversupplied market with Venezuelan oil to get the price down to $1 bbl?

You called coronavirus, I gave you credit. Now you're just getting cocky.

[hater]

So you're thinking Trump wants to flood an already oversupplied market with Venezuelan oil to get the price down to $1 bbl?

You called coronavirus, I gave you credit. Now you're just getting cocky.

u think oil is gonna be cheap for the long run?

u think most of the oil banana republics will be able to last even 6 months of this?

oil will go up sooner than later

[Spurs Homer]

Distraction

[DarrinS]

We have more oil than anyone.

[Winehole23]

We have more oil than anyone.The last "war for oil" didn't work out so well, oil wise. But it's not hard to believe we'd try again to knock over Maduro again.

[vy65]

WTI at $20 sure is lucrative, ain't it?

This may be the dumbest thing anyone has posted on this forum. And that's saying something.

[DarrinS]

The last "war for oil" didn't work out so well, oil wise. But it's not hard to believe we'd try again to knock over Maduro again.


I don't know if you've noticed, but there's very little demand right now.

[Bynumite]

Called it.

[hater]

WTI at $20 sure is lucrative, ain't it?

This may be the dumbest thing anyone has posted on this forum. And that's saying something.

because its gonna stay at $20 when we get out of our homes right dumbo? :lmao

[vy65]

because its gonna stay at $20 when we get out of our homes right dumbo? :lmao

Do you know why WTI is at $20? Do you even know what WTI stands for?

[Winehole23]

I don't know if you've noticed, but there's very little demand right now.. "US wars for oil" is a lamebrained trope.

[hater]

because its gonna stay at $20 when we get out of our homes right dumbo? :lmao

[vy65]

I'll take that as a no to both questions, but thanks for playing

[hater]

2fVYl5uSW2M

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1245445621118570501?s=21

[hater]

:lmao Pirate USA has proposed to remove Maduro peacefully in exchange for sanctions relief so they can have medicines and removing Guaido as “president”

:lmao stupid fuck USA thinking this will be taken as a serious offer :lmao


its a fucking joke and the worst kind of blackmail as venezuelas will die because USA blocking medicines and PPE

USA government and foreing policy nothing less but Evil mass murder

[hater]

:lmao Maduro government responding to the joke of US proposal

https://twitter.com/jaarreaza/status/1245536840586854405?s=21

[Splits]

That's an epic response

[vy65]

l:loll

[MultiTroll]

:lmao Maduro government responding to the joke of US proposal

https://twitter.com/jaarreaza/status/1245536840586854405?s=21
Awesome :lol

I just watched American Made.

[DMX7]

Literally paying to get rid of the oil today.... negative pricing for the first time in history. Great call Hater.

[hater]

Literally paying to get rid of the oil today.... negative pricing for the first time in history. Great call Hater.

because oil price will never go back up :rolleyes

:lol

[DMX7]

because oil price will never go back up :rolleyes

:lol

lol, Go up to what?

[Spurtacular]

What say you, hater?

https://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-charges-americans-terrorism-conspiracy-192424489.html

[BSfromTX]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/venezuela-to-sell-oil-for-petro-cryptocurrency-in-2019-says-maduro%3famp=1

Sell your oil for dollars only, or your government will get replaced

[Spurtacular]

A failed CIA coup, hater?

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21249203/venezuela-coup-jordan-goudreau-maduro-guaido-explain?utm_source=pocket-newtab

[ChumpDumper]

A failed CIA coup, hater?

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21249203/venezuela-coup-jordan-goudreau-maduro-guaido-explain?utm_source=pocket-newtab:lol neocon Trump

[Spurtacular]

:lol neocon Trump

So, you think the CIA did this?

Tell us your conspiracy theory.

[ChumpDumper]

So, you think the CIA did this?No. Not at this time.

If you think they did, it's neocon Trump.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

.

[Spurtacular]

No. Not at this time.

If you think they did, it's neocon Trump.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

That's okay. You've already attributed it to the CIA.

[ChumpDumper]

That's okay. You've already attributed it to the CIA.I said no.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

I said no.

Oh, so you were just laughing like an idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, so you were just laughing like an idiot.I was laughing at your suggestion neocon Trump did it.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

I was laughing at your suggestion neocon Trump did it.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

I never outright suggested it. I guess you needed to soothe your TDS.

[ChumpDumper]

I never outright suggested it.The question suggested it.

So now you can clear it up once and for all or just fold again.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

The question suggested it.

So now you can clear it up once and for all or just fold again.

Do you think it was the CIA?

Yes or no.

The question sought input on the possibility.

You came and attention whore'd per par after that.

[ChumpDumper]

The question sought input on the possibility.

You came and attention whore'd per par after that.derp folds.

You'll never have an opinion on this.

lol derp

[Spurtacular]

Oh, well. Keep attention whoring.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, well. Keep attention whoring.Keep folding. You're going to whine about this now.

[Spurtacular]

David Dook can't stop attention whoring. Par.

[ChumpDumper]

You're going to whine about this now.:lol

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/apjoshgoodman/status/1245425856987660289?s=21

calling it now

war plan on venezuela or a military intervention to take out maduro is underway

many thing happening in last few hours:
- maduro indicted for being a drug dealer (see Manuel Noriega)
- beefing up of forces in the caribbean under pretext of war on drugs
- US asks Guaido to renounce his claim to the presidency


calling it now


Trump wants venezuela to use it to rebuild US economy via war and if successful its oil. also a bonus is serve this as distraction from Orangegutans ineptitude vs a virus

he thinks its going to be easy war

it wont

Venezuela has 1 million armed militians ready in the hills

one more development

- Russia takes over Venezuela oil production from Russian private company


its geeting real

calling it now


https://twitter.com/ap/status/1245445621118570501?s=21


:lmao Pirate USA has proposed to remove Maduro peacefully in exchange for sanctions relief so they can have medicines and removing Guaido as “president”

:lmao stupid fuck USA thinking this will be taken as a serious offer :lmao


its a fucking joke and the worst kind of blackmail as venezuelas will die because USA blocking medicines and PPE

USA government and foreing policy nothing less but Evil mass murder


https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1243720276459708416?s=21

sadly theres a bigger virus than Covid in the world. The US sanctions/military virus


:lol

no. Called it now. Won't happen.

More good times with military intervention. Venezuela oil, as sweet as nectar.

[ElNono]

calling it now

calling it now

its geeting real

calling it now

:lol

[Winehole23]

1462871942868918275

[hater]

1462871942868918275

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lmao

[Winehole23]

there's no need to take over Venezuela if we can just take CITGO away from them


Citgo, the US’ seventh largest refiner and a cornerstone of Venezuela's oil industry acquired by the state in 1990, has become a focal point in a complex web of litigation and geopolitical manoeuvring. Valued at $13bn, the company's fate now hangs in the balance as US courts move forward with auctioning its shares to satisfy creditors' claims totalling $21.3bn.

The Houston-based refiner, legally owned by Venezuelan state-owned energy company PDVSA but controlled by a holding overseen by the country's opposition since 2019, operates an extensive refining network, 38 terminals and six pipelines, and supplies 4,200 independent retailers, boasting a refining capacity of 807,000 barrels per day (bpd). Recent financial reports indicate robust earnings totalling $5.26bn over the past nine quarters.

The genesis of this long-running legal saga dates back to Hugo Chávez's presidency, marked by a wave of nationalisations that soured Venezuela's relations with international investors since the early 2000s. In 2017, Venezuela defaulted on its debt, further compounding the situation. Among the most aggrieved parties is Crystallex, a Canadian mining firm that won authorisation in 2019 to seize Citgo as compensation for unpaid debts, stemming from the expropriation of its assets.

Other claimants seeking a portion of the sale proceeds are Siemens AG, ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil Corp., with Conoco alleging debts exceeding $1.2bn over the seized assets.

The recent court proceedings, overseen by federal district judge Leonard Stark in Delaware, have intensified Venezuela's predicament as the auction draws closer, with the deadline for second bidding offers expiring last week. Despite impassioned pleas from Venezuelan authorities, including Pedro Tellechea, Oil Minister and president of PDVSA, which technically still owns Citgo, the auctions have proceeded unabated. Tellechea lambasted the proceedings as an affront to Venezuelan sovereignty, warning of the sale's huge impact on the nation's economic stability.
Several investor groups have submitted binding bids in the ongoing auction of shares in Citgo's parent company. According to sources close to the matter cited by Reuters, at least five groups are involved, with three securing financing commitments from major banks such as JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley, alongside advisors like Rothschild & Co and Elliott Investment Management.

While some bidders aim for all-cash offers, others are leveraging credit bids and cash to bolster their proposals. The court has permitted creditors to utilise their entire claims as part of their bidding strategies, including claims from entities like Miner Gold Reserve and Rusoro Mining.
The US Treasury has been shielding Citgo from creditors since 2019, but it may give the go-ahead if the auction is approved.

Analysts believe that losing Citgo could further devastate Venezuela's already beleaguered economy, aggravating the hardships endured by its citizens.

Meanwhile, in Caracas the official narrative frames Citgo's potential loss as an act of "imperialist dispossession," laying blame squarely on the United States and political adversaries within Venezuela itself.

“We strongly reject the theft of Citgo instrumentalised by the US government, Leopoldo Lopez, Juan Guaido, Julio Borges, and the neo-fascist oligarchy,” Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez said on June 17.
link (https://www.intellinews.com/venezuela-s-citgo-faces-imminent-ownership-transfer-amid-us-court-auction-330252/)

[Thread]

there's no need to take over Venezuela if we can just take CITGO away from them

link (https://www.intellinews.com/venezuela-s-citgo-faces-imminent-ownership-transfer-amid-us-court-auction-330252/)

...or, we could just pump some of the more than 250 years of that black gold, that Texas tea we're a sittin' on. Can't do that though, eh, Winester? That'd deny us use of our MIC to bug the Mid-East over their black gold. Keeps Dover active, huh, kids?

[pgardn]

there's no need to take over Venezuela if we can just take CITGO away from them

link (https://www.intellinews.com/venezuela-s-citgo-faces-imminent-ownership-transfer-amid-us-court-auction-330252/)

Hugo never tried to use the Norway method.
Bargain and use the US and UK companies in a transparent manner.
When Venezuelan oil was nationalized, and they did not have the capability to do all the drilling, refining, transporting, that the US already excels in...
Well, then Hugo left the expertise open to what just happened. Individual ripoffs under the table instead of a big transparent governmental contract.
This is a huge weakness of authoritarian governments. This just asks for corruption, even if Hugo himself did not want it. His predecessors did.
It was a huge mistake, not understanding the interplay between capitalism and governments that are transparent and use government oversight.

The US itself is far from perfect on its relationship with big oil. But at least we get info out and people realize our government subsidizes oil companies.
It is actually DISCUSSED.

Maybe if Donald is re elected, we can build a wall privately again and more people can go to jail. Im sure the Donald would love these non transparent deals and take as much of a piece of the pie as he can.

[Winehole23]

Hugo never tried to use the Norway method.
Bargain and use the US and UK companies in a transparent manner.
When Venezuelan oil was nationalized, and they did not have the capability to do all the drilling, refining, transporting, that the US already excels in...
Well, then Hugo left the expertise open to what just happened. Individual ripoffs under the table instead of a big transparent governmental contract.
This is a huge weakness of authoritarian governments. This just asks for corruption, even if Hugo himself did not want it. His predecessors did.
It was a huge mistake, not understanding the interplay between capitalism and governments that are transparent and use government oversight.

The US itself is far from perfect on its relationship with big oil. But at least we get info out and people realize our government subsidizes oil companies.
It is actually DISCUSSED.

Maybe if Donald is re elected, we can build a wall privately again and more people can go to jail. Im sure the Donald would love these non transparent deals and take as much of a piece of the pie as he can.it's a selling point, supporters envy and admire DJT's brazen self-dealing.

[Thread]

it's a selling point, supporters envy and admire DJT's brazen self-dealing.

And his vengeance upon Biden, making him a FELON.

Trump did that.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/apjoshgoodman/status/1245425856987660289?s=21

calling it now

war plan on venezuela or a military intervention to take out maduro is underway

many thing happening in last few hours:
- maduro indicted for being a drug dealer (see Manuel Noriega)
- beefing up of forces in the caribbean under pretext of war on drugs
- US asks Guaido to renounce his claim to the presidency


calling it now


Trump wants venezuela to use it to rebuild US economy via war and if successful its oil. also a bonus is serve this as distraction from Orangegutans ineptitude vs a virus

he thinks its going to be easy war

it wont

Venezuela has 1 million armed militians ready in the hills

one more development

- Russia takes over Venezuela oil production from Russian private company


its geeting real

calling it now

3-5 days?

[pgardn]

3-5 days?


No shame in being absolutely wrong.
I love tater for finding all this stupid shit.

[Thread]

3-5 days?

...+ Biden convicted FELON.

Trump did that.

[Blake]

No shame in being absolutely wrong.
I love tater for finding all this stupid shit.

No shame if you own it. He should be terribly ashamed.