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Spurtacular
04-01-2020, 09:22 PM
We know the government is raping us. Why is there no movement against it?

You got anything, Chumpettes?

ElNono
04-01-2020, 09:25 PM
You can start the revolt, show us the way

boutons_deux
04-01-2020, 09:29 PM
Americans know Federal politicians are beyond their reach.

Marches? Petitions?

100% ineffective against the many $100Ms the oligarchy spends on buying politicians and judges, $100Ms spent with an insane return-on-investment.

Spurtacular
04-01-2020, 10:23 PM
You can start the revolt, show us the way

Give me the blueprint.

ElNono
04-01-2020, 10:26 PM
Give me the blueprint.

You know how to complain about it, looks like you're well on your way. Don't be a sheep, lead for once.

Spurtacular
04-01-2020, 10:36 PM
You know how to complain about it, looks like you're well on your way. Don't be a sheep, lead for once.

Yea, you keep lashing out, bruh. :tu

ElNono
04-01-2020, 10:37 PM
Yea, you keep lashing out, bruh. :tu

so you're just going to take it up the ass, as you said in the OP, and move along... ok

Spurtacular
04-01-2020, 11:01 PM
so you're just going to take it up the ass, as you said in the OP, and move along... ok

So, you admit Americans are taking it up the ass?

Yet you need to lash out at a person calling for that to be stopped?

When did you become so miserable in your existence?

ElNono
04-01-2020, 11:03 PM
So, you admit Americans are taking it up the ass?

Yet you need to lash out.

You said you want a movement to spring up. You can lead by example.

Spurtacular
04-01-2020, 11:08 PM
You said you want a movement to spring up. You can lead by example.

I get your little play; and I already effectively called it out. Why you still lashing out?

ElNono
04-01-2020, 11:25 PM
who's lashing out? I'm merely proposing you take the lead, since you felt this was important enough for you to start a thread about it.

Spurtacular
04-01-2020, 11:37 PM
who's lashing out? I'm merely proposing you take the lead, since you felt this was important enough for you to start a thread about it.

Do you admit Americans are taking it up the ass?

ElNono
04-02-2020, 12:08 AM
Do you admit Americans are taking it up the ass?

Already stated what Congress did to your average american is despicable, in one of the many threads we have about the subject.

So, are you starting this movement, or? I'll be happy to agree that we got the short end of the stick.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 12:15 AM
Already stated what Congress did to your average american is despicable

Cool. Where's the movement you're gonna start, then?

apalisoc_9
04-02-2020, 12:29 AM
You can start the revolt, show us the way

He's a coward.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 12:31 AM
He's a coward.

:lol More ankle biting from your safe space.

ChumpDumper
04-02-2020, 12:46 AM
You can start the revolt, show us the way:lmao

ElNono
04-02-2020, 12:50 AM
Cool. Where's the movement you're gonna start, then?

I'm gonna use my vote as the tool. You do what you think makes sense for you.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 12:52 AM
I'm gonna use my vote as the tool. You do what you think makes sense for you.

Cool. You voting for Kodos or Kang?

ElNono
04-02-2020, 12:53 AM
Cool. You voting for Kodos or Kang?

Not sure who's getting my vote yet, tbh, if at all.

ElNono
04-02-2020, 12:54 AM
Do keep us updated how your mini-revolution is going. Thanks for getting the ball rolling, btw :tu

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 01:00 AM
Not sure who's getting my vote yet, tbh, if at all.

TBF, your vote really doesn't matter.

And not because it's only one of thousands or millions.

It could go down to a voting block of three and your vote would be utterly pointless.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 01:03 AM
Do keep us updated how your mini-revolution is going. Thanks for getting the ball rolling, btw :tu

I have no great faith in such a thing happening before a calamitous state of events.

Now would be the time to act; but as you (and arguably I, even) demonstrate, the apathy is too much of a stumbling block.

ChumpDumper
04-02-2020, 01:07 AM
"arguably"

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 01:08 AM
:lol That loophole again.
:lol "Bye".

ElNono
04-02-2020, 01:38 AM
I have no great faith in such a thing happening before a calamitous state of events.

Now would be the time to act; but as you (and arguably I, even) demonstrate, the apathy is too much of a stumbling block.

I think the last time this happened with some relevance was the Occupy Wall Street movement? They got shunned and shitted all over, IIRC.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 01:42 AM
I think the last time this happened with some relevance was the Occupy Wall Street movement? They got shunned and shitted all over, IIRC.

That movement was doomed to fail (if not otherwise) because of the scuzzballs at the center of it. Also, I think this issue of billionaire greed is much more prominent. Expansion of social media has made this a shrinking universe. Still, I marvel at the apathy this time around. Maybe people would get out and say this if horse shit, but the government has people locked up in their houses like prisons. Congrats on advocating that, bruh.

ElNono
04-02-2020, 02:09 AM
That movement was doomed to fail (if not otherwise) because of the scuzzballs at the center of it. Also, I think this issue of billionaire greed is much more prominent. Expansion of social media has made this a shrinking universe. Still, I marvel at the apathy this time around. Maybe people would get out and say this if horse shit, but the government has people locked up in their houses like prisons. Congrats on advocating that, bruh.

I think they were fighting for the same thing you're talking about, the privilege, Wall Street being 'the man', etc.

The apathy goes much deeper, IMO. Protest in this country really hasn't existed since the civil rights era. Even unionization, which I suspect you probably despise, was one of the few things that was able to have enough leverage for a while, but right now pretty much disappeared, so it's not really surprising the balance is so tilted, tbh.

This has nothing to do with freedom, this has to do with a temporary health hazard. But this also proves how you still have people that care and think only about themselves, even if they end up infecting their family, friends and coworkers.

Fortunately, it looks like the vast majority of people are smart enough to parse we're living at an exceptional time, and with enough care and being smart, we're gonna get through this. So there's hope.

ElNono
04-02-2020, 02:11 AM
Talking about Wall Street...

Wall Street titans lobby for a cut of small business bailout

Private equity and venture capital firms are worried that companies they own will be blocked from obtaining loans because of SBA rules.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/wall-street-titans-lobby-for-a-cut-of-small-business-bailout-160298

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 02:34 AM
Even unionization, which I suspect you probably despise

The concept? No.

The practices? Yes.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 02:42 AM
I think they were fighting for the same thing you're talking about, the privilege, Wall Street being 'the man', etc.

The apathy goes much deeper, IMO. Protest in this country really hasn't existed since the civil rights era. Even unionization, which I suspect you probably despise, was one of the few things that was able to have enough leverage for a while, but right now pretty much disappeared, so it's not really surprising the balance is so tilted, tbh.

This has nothing to do with freedom, this has to do with a temporary health hazard. But this also proves how you still have people that care and think only about themselves, even if they end up infecting their family, friends and coworkers.

Fortunately, it looks like the vast majority of people are smart enough to parse we're living at an exceptional time, and with enough care and being smart, we're gonna get through this. So there's hope.

COVID19 like the flu kills high-risk health individuals almost exclusively; that's what the data says. More sensible measures should've been taken instead of this one size fits all nonsense. I don't think it's a matter of persons particularly not caring about this; it's a difference of outlook largely.

I think it's more of a me culture than ever; but I am not discounting all the bright spots out there in terms of the younger ranks rising to something better.

ElNono
04-02-2020, 03:47 AM
COVID19 like the flu kills high-risk health individuals almost exclusively; that's what the data says. More sensible measures should've been taken instead of this one size fits all nonsense. I don't think it's a matter of persons particularly not caring about this; it's a difference of outlook largely.

I think it's more of a me culture than ever; but I am not discounting all the bright spots out there in terms of the younger ranks rising to something better.

Nothing like the flu. Not when we have vaccines for the flu, and we have treatments and medicines for the flu. The worst disease here in the US is hearth disease and it kills 1700 people a day, something that should be eclipsed by this thing in the next couple of weeks.

The good news is that if we're responsible about it, we can help bring those numbers down, and get this temporary situation relatively over with sooner. Unlike other diseases like cancer, where it's generally outside of our control, we can make this have a lesser impact.

It's encouraging seeing some States finally getting the memo, even if late, to try to contain this situation. And this should have a lasting impact. The first wave of the Spanish flu killed only old people too, the second wave actually killed mostly young people, IIRC.

Trying to find comfort of not being in a certain demographic is simply shortsighted. There has to be lessons learned from this going forward, or we're bound to repeat it all over again.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 04:02 AM
Nothing like the flu.

I didn't compare it to the flu; but according to current numbers, NY deaths 2200 and Cali deaths 200. Cold weather state is 11X worse. Sounds a bit like the flu.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 04:06 AM
Nothing like the flu. Not when we have vaccines for the flu, and we have treatments and medicines for the flu. The worst disease here in the US is hearth disease and it kills 1700 people a day, something that should be eclipsed by this thing in the next couple of weeks.

The good news is that if we're responsible about it, we can help bring those numbers down, and get this temporary situation relatively over with sooner. Unlike other diseases like cancer, where it's generally outside of our control, we can make this have a lesser impact.

It's encouraging seeing some States finally getting the memo, even if late, to try to contain this situation. And this should have a lasting impact. The first wave of the Spanish flu killed only old people too, the second wave actually killed mostly young people, IIRC.

Trying to find comfort of not being in a certain demographic is simply shortsighted. There has to be lessons learned from this going forward, or we're bound to repeat it all over again.

The vaccine angle gets overstated, imo. Medical treatments today far surpass what was available in 1918.

boutons_deux
04-02-2020, 06:29 AM
I see that Repugs, having voted $100Bs for the Capitalist oligarchy, are whining that $600/week for Labor pays more than working, want to cut it back down to poverty level.

The last significant protest movement was the Viet Nam anti-war movement,

and even then the Repugs kept the war going for years,

and scuttled/October-Surprised the Paris Peace talks to deny Humphrey/Dems any credit for ending the war.

Fuck ALL the Repugs to hell

TheGreatYacht
04-02-2020, 06:31 PM
We know the government is raping us. Why is there no movement against it?

You got anything, Chumpettes?

According to all the QAnon and fake MAGA patriots, Trump is one of the good guys. It's for our own safety and protection. Trump is locking up all the pedophiles while we are in quarantine. Republicans are in charge so we're in good hands. It's okay to have a police state and martial law because Trump will save us.

That's how these brainless fools give up their rights. And the leftists? Well as expected. They are cheering for government takeover because of the Coronavirus hoax. Never thought I'd see a day in my life where the left and right agree to let big government take over.

Spurtacular
04-02-2020, 06:40 PM
According to all the QAnon and fake MAGA patriots, Trump is one of the good guys. It's for our own safety and protection. Trump is locking up all the pedophiles while we are in quarantine. Republicans are in charge so we're in good hands. It's okay to have a police state and martial law because Trump will save us.

That's how these brainless fools give up their rights. And the leftists? Well as expected. They are cheering for government takeover because of the Coronavirus hoax. Never thought I'd see a day in my life where the left and right agree to let big government take over.

What'd you think of those envelopes at the Bush funeral?

ElNono
04-02-2020, 07:12 PM
I didn't compare it to the flu; but according to current numbers, NY deaths 2200 and Cali deaths 200. Cold weather state is 11X worse. Sounds a bit like the flu.

You said:


COVID19 like the flu kills high-risk health individuals almost exclusively

And that's not necessarily true. Like I said in that post, one of the waves in the Spanish Flu killed almost exclusively young people. So you can't just bet on demographics.

The Cali vs NY deaths have much more to do with Cali doing a good job early of flattening the curve, nothing else. Look at Louisiana, even further south than Cali, struggling with this thing, and Florida is ramping up too.

ElNono
04-02-2020, 07:13 PM
The vaccine angle gets overstated, imo. Medical treatments today far surpass what was available in 1918.

Well, when it reduces the death rate ~10 fold, I wouldn't really say it's overstated. However, I would agree that the vaccine is not the perfect solution, as it can't cover all strains.

Millennial_Messiah
04-02-2020, 07:14 PM
Trump started it, though