Biden President 2020 MEGATHREAD

[dude21]

:hungry:

[dude21]

Bernie was a great candidate. Time to move on to our next President of the Free World. :wow

[SnakeBoy]

Bernie got destroyed by Joe Biden's corpse :lol

[dude21]

Wonder who the VP pick will be.

[Nathan89]

:danceclub

Dems elected their best.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3N7rPU_1ic

[Admissions Office]

http://templatelab.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Rejection-Letter-33.jpg

[Millennial_Messiah]

#Joevante
#PedoJoe
#OldTownGrope

[Millennial_Messiah]

My mom seriously thinks he's gonna die before the end of his first term & his VP pick will be president, presumably the first woman president.

[SnakeBoy]

My mom seriously thinks he's gonna die before the end of his first term & his VP pick will be president, presumably the first woman president.

He's not going to have a first term

[Reck]

He's not going to have a first term

Your fears bro, you can read them.

[Thread]

Tired Old Shit Bag

[SnakeBoy]

Your fears bro, you can read them.

*with Him

Noted

[boutons_deux]

Bernie was a great candidate. Time to move on to our next President of the Free World. :wow

too honest, too progressive for the corrupt, center-right/neoliberal Dem establishment and their BigDonor financiers

[spurraider21]

Depressing that this is the best case scenario

[ChumpDumper]

*with Him

NotedYou're with Trump, whose inaction and failure led to thousands of needless American deaths.


But you got jokes, so that's all that matters.

[SnakeBoy]

You're with Trump, whose inaction and failure led to thousands of needless American deaths.


But you got jokes, so that's all that matters.

Joe Biden's corpse said it was xenophobic to stop travel from China and again said it about stopping travel from Europe

Do you agree with Joe Biden's corpse?

[Reck]

*with Him

Noted

I dont know how you can possibly think this is a bad thing or a personal insult. Its not. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Joe Biden's corpse said it was xenophobic to stop travel from China and again said it about stopping travel from Europe

Do you agree with Joe Biden's corpse?Let's see that quote. I'm pretty sure it doesn't say what you think it says.

Do you agree with Trump's ignoring the pandemic playbook, failing to stockpile PPE and saying the virus will go away like a miracle?

[ChumpDumper]

I dont know how you can possibly think this is a bad thing or a personal insult. Its not. lolHe's just defensive because he has blood on his hands for supporting Trump.

[SnakeBoy]

I dont know how you can possibly think this is a bad thing or a personal insult. Its not. lol

Just noting for when you claim you never supported "Him" just like you did with "Her"

[CosmicCowboy]

Let's see that quote. I'm pretty sure it doesn't say what you think it says.

Do you agree with Trump's ignoring the pandemic playbook, failing to stockpile PPE and saying the virus will go away like a miracle?

Not addressed to me but I'll play.

1) Trump was way too late admitting there was a pandemic but his tweets didn't change how the CDC , FDA, States, etc. reacted. He just looked dumb.
2) Same mistake as Obama's administration. In 2019 only a tiny minority of people understood what would happen in a full blown virus pandemic. Even then, it's pretty unrealistic to expect the President to be personally inventorying PPG and respirators.
3) Given the availability scientific input it was fucking dumb to say it would disappear like a miracle.

[Reck]

Just noting for when you claim you never supported "Him" just like you did with "Her"

You do that, pal.

If you can hold your tears in while you type that is.

[Monostradamus]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ozy0tqSe2DLhovm/giphy.gif

[ChumpDumper]

Not addressed to me but I'll play.

1) Trump was way too late admitting there was a pandemic but his tweets didn't change how the CDC , FDA, States, etc. reacted. He just looked dumb.
2) Same mistake as Obama's administration. In 2019 only a tiny minority of people understood what would happen in a full blown virus pandemic. Even then, it's pretty unrealistic to expect the President to be personally inventorying PPG and respirators.
3) Given the availability scientific input it was fucking dumb to say it would disappear like a miracle.Eh, even if you take 2/23 as the absolute earliest Trump could've known about PPE, he did fuck all about it.

[hater]

anyone who has 2 working braincells knows Biden wont be president :lmao

90% chance DNC will replace the old bastard that cant pit 2 coherent sentences together :lol

[SpursforSix]

Wonder who the VP pick will be.

I hope it's Chrissy Teigen.

[SpursforSix]

anyone who has 2 working braincells knows Biden wont be president :lmao

90% chance DNC will replace the old bastard that cant pit 2 coherent sentences together :lol

Don't go out on a limb or anything. There's a 70% chance that he's not around by November.

[KobesAchilles]

I reeeeeally don’t want to vote for Biden. I would’ve voted for Bernie though, not that his plans made any real sense but I liked that he made people on both sides uncomfortable. I generally prefer people like that, which is how Trump started but man he turned hard core. During his campaign he was calling out the Republicans and saying how shitty they were, literally had interviews saying he wouldn’t hire the majority of them :lol, but now that he’s Prez he got he got his ass in line and is spouting the company mantra just like every other candidate. “It’s the Dems fault” :cry “the media is making me look bad” :cry “we are way ahead of every other country to deal with Corona” :cry

Normally I wouldn’t vote for Biden bc he’s a POS too. I’m not defending Pedo Joe at all. But man Trump is just saying the wrong shit. Banned travel to China but then literally did nothing else to prevent the spread of Covid. Called it a non issue. Said it was a media scare tactic. Blames others instead of taking responsibility. Hasn’t United the nation at all. Says he is focusing on the oil companies and raising gas prices. Like wtf would you say that? Even if there is some smart economic reason to do so (I’m not sure there is) you keep that shit to yourself when millions of people are unemployed and no longer getting pay checks. Just beyond stupid to put that quote out there. It’s hard to defend Trump on any of this.

So basically since both candidates are shit, I will go with shit #2 and see how that smells. Man our country needs an overhaul. Or a legit 3rd party. Just seems like we are scammed at a young age to think you have to be either Dem or Repub when 70% of Americans are independents like me who have view points on both sides and frequently vote for both parties. Just wish there was an independent party that I could get behind.

[dude21]

2020 will be a historical moment at the polls.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1247957276104757248?s=20

Suddenly the socialist marketing spin is not needed. Thanks Dems for not giving these people power.

[Splits]

So basically since both candidates are shit, I will go with shit #2 and see how that smells.

:lmao

[Spurminator]

Man our country needs an overhaul. Or a legit 3rd party. Just seems like we are scammed at a young age to think you have to be either Dem or Repub when 70% of Americans are independents like me who have view points on both sides and frequently vote for both parties. Just wish there was an independent party that I could get behind.

The hope is that with more Democrats in power, voting rights will shift in the right direction and the choices will reflect the will of the people.

It sucks to have only two choices but when one of those choices consistently pushes for more limited voting, and unlimited campaign finance, the decision is easy for me. That said, I don't have a lot of confidence that either party has any interest in making it easier to have a legitimate third party.

[SnakeBoy]

Let's see that quote.

You'll see it and many more in political ads soon enough.

Joe Biden's corpse will claim it doesn't remember saying them. It won't be lying.

[Splits]

On the 3rd party topic, it will never work with the "centrists coming together". The only viable 3rd party is radicals on both ends finding common ground and challenging the establishment. When institutions are secure, that's impossible, but when they're vulnerable it can happen. Not saying it will, but there's a lot of shit that is common sense that an opportune leader could grab on to, launch off of Bernie's shoulders now that he is dead.

[spurraider21]

Bernie: Look at the nordic model of democratic socialism

Critics: those countries have said they aren't socialist and dont believe that label is accurate

also

Bernie: lets implement policies of the nordic countries

Critics: THATS SOCIALISM!

[Spurminator]

On the 3rd party topic, it will never work with the "centrists coming together". The only viable 3rd party is radicals on both ends finding common ground and challenging the establishment. When institutions are secure, that's impossible, but when they're vulnerable it can happen. Not saying it will, but there's a lot of shit that is common sense that an opportune leader could grab on to, launch off of Bernie's shoulders now that he is dead.

I hope you're right but I'm struggling to think of any big, central issues that the extreme right and extreme left would agree on.

[CosmicCowboy]

2020 will be a historical moment at the polls.

the proper usage is historic.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1247957276104757248?s=20

Suddenly the socialist marketing spin is not needed. Thanks Dems for not giving these people power.You were a Bernie bro.

[ChumpDumper]

You'll see it and many more in political ads soon enough.I'm asking you for the quote.

Why are you trying to dodge every single request that you back up your claims?

Let's see that quote YOU claimed he made.

[dude21]

the proper usage is historic.

I am correct. It will be recorded in history hence historical. Move along young fellow. :lol

[Thread]

It ain't all bad for us. He remains in the primaries, amassing votes so he can deal later.

[Splits]

It ain't all bad for us. He remains in the primaries, amassing votes so he can deal later.

that's his "if he dies, he dies" lifeline

[Thread]

that's his "if he dies, he dies" lifeline

I fervently hope that lifeline is activated.

The old man would ride that old man like a $3 whore.

[CosmicCowboy]

Hopefully he chooses Sheila Jackson Lee as his VP. She is a woman AND black. It could be double historic and also the most hilarious political pairing in US history. She makes Sarah Palin look like a Rhodes Scholar.

[Monostradamus]

Hopefully he chooses Sheila Jackson Lee as his VP. She is a woman AND black. It could be double historic and also the most hilarious political pairing in US history. She makes Sarah Palin look like a Rhodes Scholar.
You sure love to mock black people.

[CosmicCowboy]

You sure love to mock black people.

No, I like to mock SJL. Check it out. She has a big presence on YouTube. Constant entertainment compliments of Houstons 5th ward.

[Mitch]

Seems like 2004 again, tbh. Weak candidate vs polarizing incumbent.

[Spurminator]

Biden is only weak to people who pay more attention to politics (primary speeches, cable news interviews, etc.) than most. To the general public, he's a former VP from a popular presidency.

He's probably a much stronger candidate than most of the newcomer possibilities, as far as appeal to the general voter, on name recognition alone. As long as he doesn't fuck it up, he's in the driver's seat.

[DMC]

I said he would offer it to Kamala Harris, said it some time ago. This isn't even debatable.

[ElNono]

Biden is only weak to people who pay more attention to politics (primary speeches, cable news interviews, etc.) than most.

Which happen to be the most likely to go out there and vote even if they're not really excited about the candidate ideas, etc, tbh. To actually drive the general public, you have to give them a reason to go out there and vote for you.

[Spurtacular]

Depressing that this is the best case scenario

If you really believe that, you should turn in your Democrat card. It's not getting any better.

[Spurtacular]

It sucks to have only two choices

Cry a river, Sadbert. You weren't voting for Jill Stein last election or whatever third party. You're as Dembot as they come.

[Spurtacular]

Biden is only weak to people who pay more attention to politics (primary speeches, cable news interviews, etc.) than most. To the general public, he's a former VP from a popular presidency.

He's probably a much stronger candidate than most of the newcomer possibilities, as far as appeal to the general voter, on name recognition alone. As long as he doesn't fuck it up, he's in the driver's seat.

:lol Sadbert giving himself a pep talk. Dude, people are gonna see Biden as a creepy senile corrupt POS.

:lol Democrat alley-ooping that ball to Trump for the tomahawk jam!

[DMC]

Biden is a weak choice but still the best of the group. If you cannot beat Warren you shouldn't be in the race to begin with. Bernie is just a slightly more robust version of Ron Paul. It was always going to be Biden because of the Obama connection. If Obama campaigns for Joe, Joe wins. If Obama doesn't, Joe loses.

[Spurtacular]

Biden is a weak choice but still the best of the group. If you cannot beat Warren you shouldn't be in the race to begin with. Bernie is just a slightly more robust version of Ron Paul. It was always going to be Biden because of the Obama connection. If Obama campaigns for Joe, Joe wins. If Obama doesn't, Joe loses.

:lol No

[ElNono]

Biden is a weak choice but still the best of the group. If you cannot beat Warren you shouldn't be in the race to begin with. Bernie is just a slightly more robust version of Ron Paul. It was always going to be Biden because of the Obama connection. If Obama campaigns for Joe, Joe wins. If Obama doesn't, Joe loses.

If that's the case, might as well nominate Michelle and run the table...

[Reck]

If you really believe that, you should turn in your Democrat card. It's not getting any better.

He should probably become a Republican and vote for Trump. Right derp?

[Spurtacular]

He should probably become a Republican and vote for Trump. Right derp?

I didn't say that at all. I've never said that for that matter. You need to get dresses off your brain and pay attention, tranny.

[Monostradamus]

https://twitter.com/j_manprime21/status/1247965415369617409?s=21

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/j_manprime21/status/1247965415369617409?s=21

Uh, huh, sure there are.

[Spurminator]

Which happen to be the most likely to go out there and vote even if they're not really excited about the candidate ideas, etc, tbh. To actually drive the general public, you have to give them a reason to go out there and vote for you.

We may disagree on how high that number of people is. When 60% of the population votes, I would argue that consists of a large majority of politically unattentive people. (This, of course, depends on where you draw the line with attentiveness. I would set it well under "participates in online political discussions about whether Biden is suffering from dementia.")

And as we saw in 2018, voting against Donald Trump will likely be enough. That midterm election saw the highest voter turnout of a midterm in 100+ years, the Democrats won by 9%, and it wasn't because they were super excited about their House candidate.

[ElNono]

We may disagree on how high that number of people is. When 60% of the population votes, I would argue that consists of a large majority of politically unattentive people. (This, of course, depends on where you draw the line with attentiveness. I would set it well under "participates in online political discussions about whether Biden is suffering from dementia.")

And as we saw in 2018, voting against Donald Trump will likely be enough. That midterm election saw the highest voter turnout of a midterm in 100+ years, the Democrats won by 9%, and it wasn't because they were super excited about their House candidate.

Midterms are a different ballgame, IMO, always been. There's a lot more focus on local candidates and issues.

And let's not pretend that voter turnout in 2016 wasn't lower than both '08 and '12. A 2% swing on that voting number is enough to flip a number of swing states, as we've seen.

I don't disagree that Trump is an unpopular president, however, in these contests that only matters vis a vis his opponent. And all these campaigns normally hinge in certain soundbites. I can place exactly when Kerry lost his run (the swift boat thing), or Romney (the 47% talk). In this social media day, it takes very little to ruin you due to an unforced error, and Biden is such a liability in that aspect, IMO.

[Spurminator]

Midterms are a different ballgame, IMO, always been. There's a lot more focus on local candidates and issues.

Usually, yes. But not in 2018. That election was about Donald Trump. Just like 2010 was really about Obama for Republicans.


And let's not pretend that voter turnout in 2016 wasn't lower than both '08 and '12. A 2% swing on that voting number is enough to flip a number of swing states, as we've seen.

It's hard to see a scenario where turnout doesn't increase vs 2016, and even harder to see an increase in participation favoring Republicans.


I don't disagree that Trump is an unpopular president, however, in these contests that only matters vis a vis his opponent. And all these campaigns normally hinge in certain soundbites. I can place exactly when Kerry lost his run (the swift boat thing), or Romney (the 47% talk). In this social media day, it takes very little to ruin you due to an unforced error, and Biden is such a liability in that aspect, IMO.

Neither of those guys was running against an incumbent that could be counted on for a gaffe a day. The bar has been lowered substantially at this point. Biden will probably say some bafflingly stupid things in the coming months, but Trump will "Hold my beer" it within 24 hours.

[ElNono]

Usually, yes. But not in 2018. That election was about Donald Trump. Just like 2010 was really about Obama for Republicans.

I respectfully agree to disagree, tbh... the entire calculation for a POTUS election is different due to the EC.


It's hard to see a scenario where turnout doesn't increase vs 2016, and even harder to see an increase in participation favoring Republicans.

Really? I didn't see a clear reason why turnout would be any better/different than 2016 before the pandemic. I thought the poor turnout of young people in the Dem primary was actually more of an indicator that the tuning out is fairly real.


Neither of those guys was running against an incumbent that could be counted on for a gaffe a day. The bar has been lowered substantially at this point. Biden will probably say some bafflingly stupid things in the coming months, but Trump will "Hold my beer" it within 24 hours.

The problem is that Trump is simply not accountable, tbh... I know and I agree it's entirely unfair, but the expectation is that Biden will be better and raise the bar. Considering where the bar is, that shouldn't be much of a problem for your average candidate, but unfortunately we got Joe.

[Spurminator]

I respectfully agree to disagree, tbh... the entire calculation for a POTUS election is different due to the EC.

This is true but if Dems win the popular vote by anywhere near the 9% they won the midterms by, the EC won't matter. Not a prediction, per se, just using 2018 as a guide.


Really? I didn't see a clear reason why turnout would be any better/different than 2016 before the pandemic. I thought the poor turnout of young people in the Dem primary was actually more of an indicator that the tuning out is fairly real.

Tough to gauge based on a primary. Those are always low, and they lacked a real "favorite" other than Bernie, whose following was lower than expected. I am cautiously optimistic that people will show up for November this time. I think the 2018 election is a more realistic comparison than the primaries.

[BD24]

Biden’s a better candidate than Hilary was. Unfortunately trump is a stronger candidate now as well.

I will be pretty surprised if Biden wins tbh. We are stuck with this ass hat for a second term most likely

[dude21]

Biden’s a better candidate than Hilary was. Unfortunately trump is a stronger candidate now as well.

I will be pretty surprised if Biden wins tbh. We are stuck with this ass hat for a second term most likely

All the black voters that didn't show up will. They voted in droves for Obama/Biden. They want that gravy train back. And no one is sleeping on this election. Just like 2018.

[dude21]

The Biden Haters/Putin-Orange shit lovers can't stop that this election.

[dude21]

And the economy is in the shitter. That's an instant death sentence. :lol

[Reck]

Unfortunately trump is a stronger candidate now as well.

Interesting take. What makes you think he's a stronger candidate now? Incumbency not withstanding.

[dude21]

I mean orange shit is going to kill 100k americans by next election.

[ElNono]

Tough to gauge based on a primary. Those are always low, and they lacked a real "favorite" other than Bernie, whose following was lower than expected. I am cautiously optimistic that people will show up for November this time. I think the 2018 election is a more realistic comparison than the primaries.

I mean, 2008 was actually a record number in Democrat primaries turnout, so I don't know they can be dismissed off-hand. I think part of excitement for a candidate does come from there. And sure, this field was pretty damn terrible, which also doesn't spell a lot of confidence.

[dude21]

I'm just waiting for Obama to start campaigning for him. :wow :wow

[Spurtacular]

Biden is a weak choice but still the best of the group. If you cannot beat Warren you shouldn't be in the race to begin with. Bernie is just a slightly more robust version of Ron Paul. It was always going to be Biden because of the Obama connection. If Obama campaigns for Joe, Joe wins. If Obama doesn't, Joe loses.

Not by a long shot. Sure, the conventional thinking on the prestige of VP / legacy is something that often holds at least seemingly. But you're fooling yourself if you think people are going to vote for senility. He's done for even before you throw in the creepy sh**.

[Spurtacular]

Biden’s a better candidate than Hilary was. Unfortunately trump is a stronger candidate now as well.

Sadly, no. I say this with the disclaimer that I think polls are BS in general; but if you'll indulge my using them anyhow, I was reading an article about how they have Biden in a weaker starting point than where she was at.

He doesn't have the "history" / "woman" angle/card. He's certainly not miles ahead of her in being incorruptible (which was a huge weakness for her). He is more likeable; but that is sort of academic more than practical. People may have liked the fiery Joe that could at least pretend to be above the fray and be the caring everyday man; but that's really been washed away a lot when it's now clear that he's a doddering old dude in steep decline who will just be the ultimate puppet even more so than the typical modern president.

[ElNono]

1248037734691856387

:lol

And BTW, this one is entirely on the media for even asking that question.

[Reck]

Not by a long shot. Sure, the conventional thinking on the prestige of VP / legacy is something that often holds at least seemingly. But you're fooling yourself if you think people are going to vote for senility. He's done for even before you throw in the creepy sh**.

The guy was dead meat 3 months ago. Only took one state for people to vote for him en masse.

Trump is afraid of Biden and he has good reasons to be. We now know Bernie would have gotten his ass lit up by Trump.

Not because Bernie is a bad candidate but because his appeal is very limited. Biden as old as he is, is at least well liked. That is going to count for a lot given how terrible Trump is.

[Reck]

1248037734691856387

:lol

And BTW, this one is entirely on the media for even asking that question.

It's the New York Post. The equivalent of what Breitbart is to the internet.

[Spurtacular]

The guy was dead meat 3 months ago. Only took one state for people to vote for him en masse.

Trump is afraid of Biden and he has good reasons to be. We now know Bernie would have gotten his ass lit up by Trump.

Not because Bernie is a bad candidate but because his appeal is very limited. Biden as old as he is, is at least well liked. That is going to count for a lot given how terrible Trump is.

Come on, Reck. You know how that all went down. Don't pretend that Biden is a super candidate. He went from first place to like sixth in that weak field for starters.

[ElNono]

The guy was dead meat 3 months ago. Only took one state for people to vote for him en masse.

Trump is afraid of Biden and he has good reasons to be. We now know Bernie would have gotten his ass lit up by Trump.

Not because Bernie is a bad candidate but because his appeal is very limited. Biden as old as he is, is at least well liked. That is going to count for a lot given how terrible Trump is.

There's almost no doubt old Joe will very likely win the popular vote, and likely by a solid margin, making him clearly more popular than Trump (which wouldn't really be a feat, tbh, considering Trump probably ranks among the least liked presidents in history).

Winning the election is a different thing altogether though.

[Reck]

There's almost no doubt old Joe will very likely win the popular vote, and likely by a solid margin, making him clearly more popular than Trump (which wouldn't really be a feat, tbh, considering Trump probably ranks among the least liked presidents in history).

Winning the election is a different thing altogether though.

True.

But Biden stands a better chance at winning the states that is needed to win the presidency. Michigan and Pennsylvania are almost a lock for him. Wisconsin is a toss up though, imo.

Coronovirus has really worked out for him. The less he's out there goofing up the better.

[Spurtacular]

There's almost no doubt old Joe will very likely win the popular vote, and likely by a solid margin, making him clearly more popular than Trump (which wouldn't really be a feat, tbh, considering Trump probably ranks among the least liked presidents in history).

If that happens we'll know voter fraud is rampant.

[ElNono]

If that happens we'll know voter fraud is rampant.

You can keep denying reality, tbh, it doesn't change it though. The GOP has lost the popular vote in 6 out of the last 7 presidential elections, including winning the election but losing the popular vote twice (something that has happened only 5 times in history).

It's not a fluke. Betting that Biden will win the popular vote is actually a fairly safe and conservative bet.

[ElNono]

True.

But Biden stands a better chance at winning the states that is needed to win the presidency. Michigan and Pennsylvania are almost a lock for him. Wisconsin is a toss up though, imo.

Coronovirus has really worked out for him. The less he's out there goofing up the better.

I'm not so sure about those states. Mostly because they rejected pretty clearly globalism last time around, and Biden is more of the same.

[Spurtacular]

You can keep denying reality, tbh, it doesn't change it though. The GOP has lost the popular vote in 6 out of the last 7 presidential elections, including winning the election but losing the popular vote twice (something that has happened only 5 times in history).

It's not a fluke. Betting that Biden will win the popular vote is actually a fairly safe and conservative bet.

Yea, and there's been shenanigans going back past JFK frankly. But even factoring all that in, if America is voting for a senile creepy fuck then the sh** is serious. The alternative is Americans are that stupid. I have a tid bit of faith that Americans aren't that stupid to put in a totally unqualified person like Biden into office.

It's frankly quite naive to apply past numbers to a senile candidate. This is new ground for Dems. They are basically putting their faith in their voters being completely programmable bots.

[ElNono]

Yea, and there's been shenanigans going back past JFK frankly. But even factoring all that in, if America is voting for a senile creepy fuck then the sh** is serious. The alternative is Americans are that stupid. I have a tid bit of faith that Americans aren't that stupid to put in a totally unqualified person like Biden into office.

It's frankly quite naive to apply past numbers to a senile candidate. This is new ground for Dems. They are basically putting their faith in their voters being completely programmable bots.

You know I'm no fan of Biden, but Americans voted in Trump, that's how stupid this can really get. So yeah, there's no bar or bottom.

[Spurtacular]

You know I'm no fan of Biden, but Americans voted in Trump, that's how stupid this can really get. So yeah, there's no bar or bottom.

Trump won, bruh. Get over your TDS. Running a senile fuck like Biden shows how little respect Democrats have for anyone or anything. I thought people should've got that when they ran a psychopath like Hillary. But this is even more in your face obvious than that to the casual voter.

[rmt]

Interesting take. What makes you think he's a stronger candidate now? Incumbency not withstanding.

Surely you're joking. Trump is no longer an unknown - none of: he has no experience in politics or the military, he's gonna take us into recession - record stock market, low unemployment, etc. - the world didn't come to an end (nuclear war) and if some of you would get past your TDS - peace and prosperity (until covid, of course).

What I have noticed during covid: he is accessible, he listens and takes action (moves fast). Now whether what he's been hearing is correct (death estimates were way over) - that's another story.

But the Trump hate is STRONG.

[ElNono]

Trump won, bruh. Get over your TDS. Running a senile fuck like Biden shows how little respect Democrats have for anyone or anything. I thought people should've got that when they ran a psychopath like Hillary. But this is even more in your face obvious than that to the casual voter.

I never denied Trump winning. I always said he won fair and square.

[boutons_deux]

I never denied Trump winning. I always said he won fair and square.

the EC is not "fair and square".

Comey/Nunes gave the anti-democratic EC, vi PA-WI-MI, to Trash.

[ElNono]

the EC is not "fair and square".

Comey/Nunes gave the anti-democratic EC, vi PA-WI-MI, to Trash.

same rules for everybody, all candidates knew what they needed to do to win. that's fair and square.

[ElNono]

Both derp and rmt posts goes to show why the Biden selection is a poor choice, tbh.

The notion that Democrats are disrespectful towards voters with the Biden selection, glosses over that Trump is the other candidate. We're being insulted with the notion that these two are the best each party can muster, and what America's best and brightest looks like. It's really an indictment on both parties.
Then you have rmt, which is the prototypical cult member. Far from elucidating that from this post, her posting history precedes her.

The overarching point, however, is that neither of those guys will ever vote for a candidate with a (D) next to their name for POTUS in the foreseeable future. As much complaining there is about Trump's hate (well earned, I might add), the hate and disdain for anything DNC (well earned too) from large swats of the population is just as powerful.

So why keep picking old center-right career politicians like Biden? I get that maybe you don't want to go all the way to the other end in Bernie, but there has to be somebody younger, without the plethora of skeletons in the closet that's not married to corporate america.

Despite the fact that some voters like the two above will not vote for a (D) POTUS, they're also largely a minority. However, when you add up that the main reason you expect large turnout is because the opponent is hated, then what does that really say about your own candidate?

How do you reconcile that with the notion that this is supposedly a very important election? Why isn't somebody like Michelle Obama running, that you know would run the table?

[Spurtacular]

the EC is not "fair and square".

Comey/Nunes gave the anti-democratic EC, vi PA-WI-MI, to Trash.

:lol The butthurt.

[Spurtacular]

Both derp and rmt posts goes to show why the Biden selection is a poor choice, tbh.

The notion that Democrats are disrespectful towards voters with the Biden selection, glosses over that Trump is the other candidate. We're being insulted with the notion that these two are the best each party can muster, and what America's best and brightest looks like. It's really an indictment on both parties.
Then you have rmt, which is the prototypical cult member. Far from elucidating that from this post, her posting history precedes her.

The overarching point, however, is that neither of those guys will ever vote for a candidate with a (D) next to their name for POTUS in the foreseeable future. As much complaining there is about Trump's hate (well earned, I might add), the hate and disdain for anything DNC (well earned too) from large swats of the population is just as powerful.

So why keep picking old center-right career politicians like Biden? I get that maybe you don't want to go all the way to the other end in Bernie, but there has to be somebody younger, without the plethora of skeletons in the closet that's not married to corporate america.

Despite the fact that some voters like the two above will not vote for a (D) POTUS, they're also largely a minority. However, when you add up that the main reason you expect large turnout is because the opponent is hated, then what does that really say about your own candidate?

How do you reconcile that with the notion that this is supposedly a very important election? Why isn't somebody like Michelle Obama running, that you know would run the table?

That's off. Repubs tried to insult the constituency by shoving their system trash down their throats. The Repub nomination was exposed just as the Democrat system was; but Trump was an overwhelming favorite. You may say he ended up being business as usual; but the people spoke on that one. If you're looking for a candidate that was screwed out of the nomination by party and media, go back to Ron Paul.

As for the Dem side of the coin, yea the allegedly impartial DNC efforts to get Hillary an then Joe nominated is well documented.

Both parties have broken nomination processes, I will agree. The truth is people on both sides aren't demanding fairness. Repubs certainly didn't turn around and fix any sh** for which I'm aware, and 2024 could be some sh** again. Dems fixes; I dunno if I'm forgetting some token changes; but their system seems to just as f'd up as ever.

:lol "Center-right" like Biden. Dude's big gov. AF. Most everyone is authoritarian left, and that includes repubs. Stop playing with yourself on that one.

[Spurtacular]

How do you reconcile that with the notion that this is supposedly a very important election? Why isn't somebody like Michelle Obama running, that you know would run the table?

:lol Begging for a disbarred puppet with virtually no experience cos :cry Hope and Change Pt. ii :cry

[Spurtacular]

I'm just waiting for Obama to start campaigning for him. :wow :wow

Those are the operative words.

:lol He still hasn't endorsed TOSB Joe.

[ChumpDumper]

Surely you're joking. Trump is no longer an unknown - none of: he has no experience in politics or the military, he's gonna take us into recession - record stock market, low unemployment, etc. - the world didn't come to an end (nuclear war) and if some of you would get past your TDS - peace and prosperity (until covid, of course).

What I have noticed during covid: he is accessible, he listens and takes action (moves fast). Now whether what he's been hearing is correct (death estimates were way over) - that's another story.

But the Trump hate is STRONG.

Has Trump done anything wrong in this crisis?

Yes or no.

If yes, say what he did wrong.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Chump begging to have bones thrown to him.

[BD24]

Interesting take. What makes you think he's a stronger candidate now? Incumbency not withstanding.
The economy has been doing well (obviously not now, but I don’t think that can be put on him), he actually has experience now, some people actually think he has handled this pandemic well.

[rmt]

Has Trump done anything wrong in this crisis?

Yes or no.

If yes, say what he did wrong.

Hindsight is 20/20. If you look back at almost all leaders, they act with the knowledge that they have (at the time). I disagreed with DeSantis not doing anything about the Spring Breakers - but it's a diverse state and he probably doesn't see why he should punish the rest of the state for college kids in South Florida?. I'm sure the New York politicians regret their words about Chinese New Year, etc.

If you are hanging on every IMPRECISE word that Trump, I don't know what to say. I learned a long time ago to ignore what he says, what he tweets and who he sleeps with - actually makes for a good 3 1/2 years - covid notwithstanding.

[ChumpDumper]

Hindsight is 20/20. If you look back at almost all leaders, they act with the knowledge that they have (at the time). I disagreed with DeSantis not doing anything about the Spring Breakers - but it's a diverse state and he probably doesn't see why he should punish the rest of the state for college kids in South Florida?. I'm sure the New York politicians regret their words about Chinese New Year, etc.

If you are hanging on every IMPRECISE word that Trump, I don't know what to say. I learned a long time ago to ignore what he says, what he tweets and who he sleeps with - actually makes for a good 3 1/2 years - covid notwithstanding.I can't help but notice you typed a lot of words but did nothing to answer the question.

I didn't ask about what you think other people did wrong.

I didn't ask you about what Trump said.

Has Trump done anything wrong in this crisis?

Yes or no.

If yes, say what he did wrong.

[ElNono]

That's off. Repubs tried to insult the constituency by shoving their system trash down their throats. The Repub nomination was exposed just as the Democrat system was; but Trump was an overwhelming favorite. You may say he ended up being business as usual; but the people spoke on that one. If you're looking for a candidate that was screwed out of the nomination by party and media, go back to Ron Paul.

As for the Dem side of the coin, yea the allegedly impartial DNC efforts to get Hillary an then Joe nominated is well documented.

Both parties have broken nomination processes, I will agree. The truth is people on both sides aren't demanding fairness. Repubs certainly didn't turn around and fix any sh** for which I'm aware, and 2024 could be some sh** again. Dems fixes; I dunno if I'm forgetting some token changes; but their system seems to just as f'd up as ever.

:lol "Center-right" like Biden. Dude's big gov. AF. Most everyone is authoritarian left, and that includes repubs. Stop playing with yourself on that one.

Joe was voted in as the VP before Trump was voted as POTUS, so "people speaking on that one" applies evenly here. I will agree this Joe is not that Joe, but I didn't like him back then either, tbh. Same problems.

Biden is the epitome of center-right politics, much like Barry. Married to Wall Street, had discernible center-right political positions through his voting record in Congress, etc. The problem with him is that he's not credible when he says his views 'evolved' on certain topics. We all know that happened out of convenience, not conviction.

I know you describe yourself as a libertarian, and so probably everything looks like big government to you. I think we can agree it's an extremely narrow view of politics, certainly hasn't been representative of the state of politics in well over a decade, and honestly, I don't even think it's a viable political position towards the future, tbh. Under the status-quo, Biden falls squarely on center-right. MIC, Wall Street, Patriot Act, globalist, likely a warmonger, he checks all the boxes.

Lastly, authoritarianism, much like populism, doesn't have a left or right owner. You can see both in the current POTUS, for example, or there's countless cases in dubya's war on terror. Leveraging the power of the State is a tried and true tradition that both parties have used extensively over time.

[ElNono]

:lol Begging for a disbarred puppet with virtually no experience cos :cry Hope and Change Pt. ii :cry

At the end of the day, it's a popularity contest. Dems already have the upper hand as far as people willing to vote for them if you put a popular, exciting candidate. We've already seen that with Barry.

Also, same exact disqualifications you mention should've prevented Trump or even Obama to an extent from becoming POTUS, but didn't.

[spurraider21]

if America is voting for a senile creepy fuck then the sh** is serious
thats what i thought about 2016 tbh

[spurraider21]

:lol Begging for a disbarred puppet with virtually no experience cos :cry Hope and Change Pt. ii :cry
how was trump anything but "hope and change"? he didnt use those words, but that was certainly his message

[slick'81]

Sleepy joe is coming for you trump!

[Reck]

Sleepy joe is coming for you trump!

One pussy grab at a time!

[ChumpDumper]

how was trump anything but "hope and change"? he didnt use those words, but that was certainly his messageRight now he hopes antibiotics change the coronagerm.

[Spurtacular]

Joe was voted in as the VP before Trump was voted as POTUS, so "people speaking on that one" applies evenly here.

:lol People voted the top of that ticket, not the bottom.

In fact, Joe's record in presidential primaries to that point speaks for itself. Which makes it more remarkable that the DNC could get this version of Joe the nomination. Fact is they own your ass. :lol

Don't feel too bad; people didn't vote for Pence either.

[pgardn]

Joe by default.

[Spurtacular]

Biden is the epitome of center-right politics, much like Barry. Married to Wall Street, had discernible center-right political positions through his voting record in Congress, etc. The problem with him is that he's not credible when he says his views 'evolved' on certain topics. We all know that happened out of convenience, not conviction.

I know you describe yourself as a libertarian, and so probably everything looks like big government to you. I think we can agree it's an extremely narrow view of politics, certainly hasn't been representative of the state of politics in well over a decade, and honestly, I don't even think it's a viable political position towards the future, tbh. Under the status-quo, Biden falls squarely on center-right. MIC, Wall Street, Patriot Act, globalist, likely a warmonger, he checks all the boxes.


Agree that if you shrink the spectrum to what the politicians are only on, then it makes enough sense. Perhaps, I should have let that one go for that reason.

[Spurtacular]

Lastly, authoritarianism, much like populism, doesn't have a left or right owner. You can see both in the current POTUS, for example, or there's countless cases in dubya's war on terror. Leveraging the power of the State is a tried and true tradition that both parties have used extensively over time.

Dubya wasn't conservative. We all know that at this point. Sure, he touted some conservative rhetoric. He didn't institute universal healthcare. But he was no conservative. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. All the repubs have been. That's what helped to make Trump wildly successful. You don't have Trump without the likes of Bush, McCain, Romney. A similar event happened on the left, but Bernie was too much of a timid cuck to capitalize. Yes, I see the irony of that statement. :lol

[Spurtacular]

At the end of the day, it's a popularity contest.

If that's good enough for you, then okay.

[Spurtacular]

thats what i thought about 2016 tbh

Classic Philo Lite

J/K

Not your better work.

[Spurtacular]

how was trump anything but "hope and change"? he didnt use those words, but that was certainly his message

Agree.

[spurraider21]

Right now he hopes antibiotics change the coronagerm.
the "germ" thing doesnt bother me all that much. its basically a laymen's term at this point and depending on where you look its definition may or may not include viruses.

but yeah, his harping on "antibiotics" on what is a virus was horrifyingly laughable

[Reck]

Spurtacular doing a lot of trumplaining in here.

[Spurtacular]

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) doing a lot of trumplaining in here.

Like when I just agreed with Lite's point?

You have a terrible sense of timing, tranny.

:lol Trumplaining term wasted.
:lol You were probably up half the night coming up with that one.

[Reck]

Like when I just agreed with Lite's point?

You have a terrible sense of timing, tranny.

:lol Trumplaining term wasted.
:lol You were probably up half the night coming up with that one.

Clearly I was talking to your back and forth with El defending dear leader. Catch up.

[Spurtacular]

Clearly I was talking to your back and forth with El defending dear leader. Catch up.

I'm Trumplaining cos Joe's senile?

Own your shit, bruh. :lol

[Reck]

I'm Trumplaining cos Joe's senile?

Own your shit, bruh. :lol

You're making up excuses, paulie.

[pgardn]

You're making up excuses, paulie.


You're making up excuses, paulie.

Reck:

You are not referring to the “old” poster paulie are you?

[Spurtacular]

Has Trump done anything wrong in this crisis?

Yes or no.



You spent a good day beggin' for dem bones. :lol

[Reck]

Reck:

You are not referring to the “old” poster paulie are you?

Could apply if derp is into corpses.

[ElNono]

:lol People voted the top of that ticket, not the bottom.

In fact, Joe's record in presidential primaries to that point speaks for itself. Which makes it more remarkable that the DNC could get this version of Joe the nomination. Fact is they own your ass. :lol

Don't feel too bad; people didn't vote for Pence either.

Never voted in a Dem primary, nor voted a Dem for President, tbh, so I feel I can certainly speak freely about it. I admit that Barry was the major vote getter, however, the point is that he's been exposed to the process already. He wiped the floor with Paul Ryan in the VP debate in 2012 (and it was surprising to me, to be fair).



Agree that if you shrink the spectrum to what the politicians are only on, then it makes enough sense. Perhaps, I should have let that one go for that reason.

I don't think you're wrong or your opinion is less valuable, and I'm also not a fan of the current political process, but when analyzing these things, I have to go by what's happening out there.


Dubya wasn't conservative. We all know that at this point. Sure, he touted some conservative rhetoric. He didn't institute universal healthcare. But he was no conservative. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. All the repubs have been. That's what helped to make Trump wildly successful. You don't have Trump without the likes of Bush, McCain, Romney. A similar event happened on the left, but Bernie was too much of a timid cuck to capitalize. Yes, I see the irony of that statement. :lol

IMHO Trump is clearly to the left of Bush, McCain and possibly Romney in the political spectrum. He has all the same economic traits: big spender, don't care about deficits, bigger government, overspend on the MIC, bailout the rich, etc. He clearly has a complete disregard for the rule of law (dubya was more or less the same under the guise of the war on terror), though I'm pretty sure this guys is the biggest offender by a country mile. And where the difference comes, IMO, it's in foreign policy and social conservatism. On the former, this guy did drop a few rockets, continued the campaign in the middle east, continued to suck up to Isreal, but it should be said he didn't start a new war. On the social conservatism side is where he's just a liberal. Forget what he says, just look at what he does. He certainly doesn't care about abortions, family traditions, religion... he panders to all of that because it's convenient or because it triggers the libs and provides additional adulation (and he needs that base if he plans to remain in power), but that's all there's really to it. He's also way, way more ignorant than all of the other three, which is quite the feat, considering dubya was certainly a surefire bet for the biggest idiot of my generation, but this guy managed.

[ElNono]

If that's good enough for you, then okay.

Well, it's not what's good enough for me. It's what people look at when they vote. Again, there's no better proof than the current POTUS.

[Spurtacular]

He wiped the floor with Paul Ryan in the VP debate in 2012 (and it was surprising to me, to be fair).


I thought so at the time. Perhaps less so now. But that's of no matter. That Joe Biden's not walking through the door.

[ElNono]

I thought so at the time. Perhaps less so now. But that's of no matter. That Joe Biden's not walking through the door.

I agree with that.

[Spurtacular]

Well, it's not what's good enough for me. It's what people look at when they vote. Again, there's no better proof than the current POTUS.

If you want to believe the polls aren't lying (not a belief I have), then IIRC there's justification of MO running. But I'd have to think that's largely a sentimental wish by people who don't expect it. When the rubber meets the road, MO doesn't have the chops. You'll get the screeching woman who gets flustered and when off script says stupid self-serving things like 'this is the first time I've ever been proud of America.' Her lack of technical know-how would certainly be exposed as well. BO's was at times, but he was still a better BS'er at the end of the day. Maybe MO could be groomed to get into that role; but she's clearly been lazy and not making that effort in the first place.

[Reck]

If you want to believe the polls aren't lying (not a belief I have), then IIRC there's justification of MO running. But I'd have to think that's largely a sentimental wish by people who don't expect it. When the rubber meets the road, MO doesn't have the chops. You'll get the screeching woman who gets flustered and when off script says stupid self-serving things like 'this is the first time I've ever been proud of America.' Her lack of technical know-how would certainly be exposed as well. BO's was at times, but he was still a better BS'er at the end of the day. Maybe MO could be groomed to get into that role; but she's clearly been lazy and not making that effort in the first place.

More trumplaining from ze derp. :lol

[Spurtacular]

More trumplaining from ze derp. :lol

https://i.imgur.com/8VYMSq8.gif

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1248796970912591872?s=19

lol

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1248796970912591872?s=19

lol

:lmao Chumpettes


The Daily Wire reported the following results:


The Washington Post:

Christine Blasey Ford: 100+
Tara Reade: 0


The New York Times:

Christine Blasey Ford: 90+
Tara Reade: 0


MSNBC:

Christine Blasey Ford: 100+
Tara Reade: 0


CNN:

Christine Blasey Ford: 100+
Tara Reade: 0

[Chris]

:lmao Chumpettes

also:

https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1247252442812690433?s=19

[Reck]

Good.

Now we get to see the validity of her claims in full. Will or won’t they hold up. Tune in

[dude21]

also:

https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1247252442812690433?s=19

BOOM! :lmao :lmao

[Reck]

Rose Mcgowan's career took a dive after she got caught sucking dick on camera. lol

[Spurtacular]

Good.

Now we get to see the validity of her claims in full. Will or won’t they hold up. Tune in

Tune in for what? Will the House be holding trials like they did for Kavanaugh?

[Reck]

Tune in for what? Will the House be holding trials like they did for Kavanaugh?

Biden is not a part of congress.

This is a state police matter.

[Spurtacular]

Rose Mcgowan's career took a dive after she got caught sucking dick on camera. lol

Why is that funny?

[Spurtacular]

Biden is not a part of congress.

This is a state police matter.

He's trying to attain a high public position just as Kavanaugh was doing.

[Pelicans78]

Those are the operative words.

:lol He still hasn't endorsed TOSB Joe.

He’s been endorsing Biden privately to Dem donors since November. He was waiting for Biden to win the primary before endorsing him and will do it once the pandemic fades. He’s easily gonna campaign for Biden when it matters.

[Chris]

Why is that funny?

Everyone in Hollywood has a tape like that. Start acting up against the system and it will be on TMZ in less than 12 hours.

[Spurtacular]

He’s been endorsing Biden privately to Dem donors since November. He was waiting for Biden to win the primary before endorsing him and will do it once the pandemic fades. He’s easily gonna campaign for Biden when it matters.

:lol Weak

[Spurtacular]

Everyone in Hollywood has a tape like that. Start acting up against the system and it will be on TMZ in less than 12 hours.

Nah. They're promo vids. Most celebs releasing them on purpose. Though that strategy has fallen out of favor in the wake of #MePoo.

[Reck]

Why is that funny?

It's funny because she got herself filmed on purposed. Thing gets leaked and she goes schorched earth on all men. And now all women who dont agree with her.

If you're dumb enough to make a sex tape and not thinking it will leak then you deserve to be laughed at.

[Spurtacular]

It's funny because she got herself filmed on purposed. Thing gets leaked and she goes schorched earth on all men. And now all women who dont agree with her.

If you're dumb enough to make a sex tape and not thinking it will leak then you deserve to be laughed at.

So, if you have a sex tape released and then you allegedly go bat-shit crazy, then it's a laughing matter.

:lol Tranny humor.

[Reck]

So, if you have a sex tape released and then you allegedly go bat-shit crazy, then it's a laughing matter.

:lol Tranny humor.

What makes it funny is that she pretends to be shocked by it all.

[Spurtacular]

What makes it funny is that she pretends to be shocked by it all.

Shocked by what all?

[Reck]

Shocked by what all?

Derp please do try to keep up. It’s your own conversation after all.

[Pelicans78]

:lol Weak

It’s only weak because it doesn’t suit your point of view. If you don’t think Obama will campaign for him then you’re totally clueless.

[Pelicans78]

Shocked by what all?

Shock that the tape was released ��

[Spurtacular]

Derp please do try to keep up. It’s your own conversation after all.

It's your unspecific statement that Pelicans78 doesn't understand either.

Shocked by what all?

[Spurtacular]

It’s only weak because it doesn’t suit your point of view. If you don’t think Obama will campaign for him then you’re totally clueless.

No, it's weak because it's weak. Politicians doing stuff behind the scenes (often in whatever direction the wind blows) is nothing new.

The fact that Obama still hasn't came out for his own VP is telling.

[Reck]

It's your unspecific statement that Pelicans78 doesn't understand either.

Shocked by what all?

Already addressed back in post 147. Pelican gets it. Everyone that reads it does.

No decoding needed.

[Pelicans78]

No, it's weak because it's weak. Politicians doing stuff behind the scenes (often in whatever direction the wind blows) is nothing new.

The fact that Obama still hasn't came out for his own VP is telling.

It’s weak because you don’t agree with it, but the fact is Bernie (overglorified version of Ron Paul) just dropped out this week and Obama’s wasn’t going to publicly interfere with the primary even if Biden was his preferred candidate, and he sure as hell won’t endorse him during a pandemic.

[Spurtacular]

Already addressed back in post 147. Pelican gets it. Everyone that reads it does.

No decoding needed.


Rose Mcgowan's career took a dive after she got caught sucking dick on camera. lol

Let's just take this back to the beginning. You're laughing because you think bitch deserved to have her career tank b/c she was
'stupid enough' to behave in a manner that ended up with a sex tape released?

[ChumpDumper]

There's no rush for Obama to get involved. Actually better to hold off until later to campaign for him

[Pelicans78]

Even Reagan didn’t endorse Bush until he wrapped up the primary.

[ElNono]

If you want to believe the polls aren't lying (not a belief I have), then IIRC there's justification of MO running. But I'd have to think that's largely a sentimental wish by people who don't expect it. When the rubber meets the road, MO doesn't have the chops. You'll get the screeching woman who gets flustered and when off script says stupid self-serving things like 'this is the first time I've ever been proud of America.' Her lack of technical know-how would certainly be exposed as well. BO's was at times, but he was still a better BS'er at the end of the day. Maybe MO could be groomed to get into that role; but she's clearly been lazy and not making that effort in the first place.

I think she's somebody that even Bernie voters would show up for, and in the current environment, that's pretty close to a sure win. I'm not a fan of her either, but I can't look at things based on my preference. I've got to look at things based on popularity, and she's one person that ticks a lot of boxes across the progressive spectrum, and she's not a far leftie like Bernie. She's younger, almost pristine political career, etc. Maybe she's being groomed, maybe she has no interest, I don't know.

[Spurtacular]

Even Reagan didn’t endorse Bush until he wrapped up the primary.

I can't speak to his reasons for that; but I'm sure Reagan knew Bush was a snake in the grass.

[ChumpDumper]

I can't speak to his reasons for that; but I'm sure Reagan knew Bush was a snake in the grass.Which is why he endorsed him!

AHA!

[ElNono]

Soros pumps more than $28 million into Democratic groups for 2020

Billionaire megadonor George Soros spent $28.3 million on the 2020 election during the first three months of the year on the 2020 election, including $10 million to fight voter disenfranchisement that Soros donated amid the fallout of the coronavirus pandemic.

Soros’ $10 million will go to Win Justice, which mobilizes people of color and other infrequent voters who could be disenfranchised in the coming months as states battle over whether to hold in-person voting in November, an increasingly pressing concern among Democrats. He gave the money at a moment when many in the Democratic political world have warned that PACs and campaigns may run out of money as the economy -- and with it, donors’ pocketbooks -- seize up.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/soros-pumps-28-million-democratic-groups-2020-179367

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nice, looks like Will Hunting and I will be voting 4 times this year, tbh...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/LNkjG1IS3AgPtzSUcw/source.gif

[Spurtacular]

I think she's somebody that even Bernie voters would show up for, and in the current environment, that's pretty close to a sure win. I'm not a fan of her either, but I can't look at things based on my preference. I've got to look at things based on popularity, and she's one person that ticks a lot of boxes across the progressive spectrum, and she's not a far leftie like Bernie. She's younger, almost pristine political career, etc. Maybe she's being groomed, maybe she has no interest, I don't know.

If the campaigning period was two days, you might be right. Over the course of a long campaign she would expose her vast weaknesses.

[Reck]

Derp self gotching. Lol

[ElNono]

If the campaigning period was two days, you might be right. Over the course of a long campaign she would expose her vast weaknesses.

I don't see it. She's educated, she was far from absent during her hubby tenure, she did a number of speeches. She's well rounded.

[Spurtacular]

Which is why he endorsed him!

AHA!

That's how it works. Obama knew Hillary was a psychopath, too, and he gave her glowing endorsements.

:lmao Chump thinking he's finding W's.

[Spurtacular]

I don't see it. She's educated, she was far from absent during her hubby tenure, she did a number of speeches. She's well rounded.

She's not adept at thinking on her feet about matters for which she frankly has little care for.

[ChumpDumper]

That's how it works.I GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT RIGHT HERE IN MY HEAD BELIEVE MY CONSPIRACY THEORY

[Pelicans78]

That's how it works. Obama knew Hillary was a psychopath, too, and he gave her glowing endorsements.

:lmao Chump thinking he's finding W's.

So if he campaigned hard for Hillary, you don’t think he will for Biden who was his VP for 8 years and close friend?

[Spurtacular]

Derp self gotching. Lol

I don't know what you're lashing out about. But you wanted to go on the lesser of two tracks.

Let's take it back to the track you ignored.

Why would you think Congress should've done a hearing into Kavanaugh and not Biden?

[ElNono]

She's not adept at thinking on her feet about matters for which she frankly has little care for.

What is this based on? She has looked thoughtful and intelligent throughout, IMO. Especially compared to this version of Joe or Trump.

What I don't like about her is that she's likely as much of a sellout to interest groups as her husband was.

[Spurtacular]

So if he campaigned hard for Hillary, you don’t think he will for Biden who was his VP for 8 years and close friend?

Are they really close friends? Clearly not; else Obama would have endorsed him by now. And if you say so, then it seems it's of no consequence either way.

Obama's legacy was on the line in the last election. It's largely been destroyed. Joe winning won't save it.

Would he campaign hard for Joe? What's in it for him? Indirectly, maybe a lot. He's got to appease his benefactors. So, I think there's a good chance he will hit the campaign trail hard.

[Spurtacular]

What is this based on? She has looked thoughtful and intelligent throughout, IMO. Especially compared to this version of Joe or Trump.

What I don't like about her is that she's likely as much of a sellout to interest groups as her husband was.

She's good enough in incremental well-planned appearances largely on matters of little import.

She doesn't want to do the work, IMO. She likes living a cozy life. Nothing wrong with that per se. She knows what she wants.

[ElNono]

She's good enough in incremental well-planned appearances largely on matters of little import.

She doesn't want to do the work, IMO. She likes living a cozy life. Nothing wrong with that per se. She knows what she wants.

It's possible.

[Spurtacular]

It's possible.

She's not the same kind of bitch that Hillary is. She doesn't get off so much on operating in halls of power from what I've seen.

If she wanted more sustained money and fame, I could see her being Oprah 2.0 instead of running for office.

But perhaps she can't as long as Oprah is in the picture; some say Oprah is the one who put the Obamas where they are.

And that's of little matter as long as Netflix is giving them sweetheart deals and they can do speaking engagements at exorbitant prices.

[ducks]

There's no rush for Obama to get involved. Actually better to hold off until later to campaign for him

Yeah biden corpse could have a heartache like sanders did earlier

[clambake]

Yeah biden corpse could have a heartache like sanders did earlier

ok who are you

this can't be anything other than a brilliant phony

[ElNono]

She's not the same kind of bitch that Hillary is. She doesn't get off so much on operating in halls of power from what I've seen.

If she wanted more sustained money and fame, I could see her being Oprah 2.0 instead of running for office.

But perhaps she can't as long as Oprah is in the picture; some say Oprah is the one who put the Obamas where they are.

And that's of little matter as long as Netflix is giving them sweetheart deals and they can do speaking engagements at exorbitant prices.

It's also distinctly possible that she doesn't want to cockblock a Biden run... time will tell I guess.

[Spurtacular]

It's also distinctly possible that she doesn't want to cockblock a Biden run... time will tell I guess.

File that under anything's possible I guess.

[Winehole23]

Anyone seen any Biden yardsigns or bumper stickers? Gotten robocalled or spammed?

I've yet to meet Joe Biden fan in the wild, have y'all sighted any?

[rmt]

Anyone seen any Biden yardsigns or bumper stickers? Gotten robocalled or spammed?

I've yet to meet Joe Biden fan in the wild, have y'all sighted any?

Even the most hardcode Dems at work talk about Biden's gaffes - they'll happily vote for him.

[Th'Pusher]

Even the most hardcode Dems at work talk about Biden's gaffes - they'll happily vote for him.

He wasn’t my first pick, but light years better than the bumbling moron that is the alternative. The main difference is biden will surround himself with competent people, unlike trump who’s only interested in sycophants.

[ChumpDumper]

Even the most hardcode Dems at work talk about Biden's gaffes - they'll happily vote for him.

You're going to happily vote for Trump after he kills thousands of Americans.

[rmt]

You're going to happily vote for Trump after he kills thousands of Americans.

What bee is in your bonnet about this coronavirus? You seem particularly distressed (more than others on this board) by it. Makes me wonder if a family member has been affected by it. If so, my deepest sympathy.

[ChumpDumper]

What bee is in your bonnet about this coronavirus? You seem particularly distressed (more than others on this board) by it. Makes me wonder if a family member has been affected by it. If so, my deepest sympathy.Uh, practically every American has been affected by this. Why are you pretending it's just another day for happy talk and condescension?

[Reck]

Anyone seen any Biden yardsigns or bumper stickers? Gotten robocalled or spammed?

I've yet to meet Joe Biden fan in the wild, have y'all sighted any?

Do you still believe that still means anything? Like the amount of people at rallies?

To kind of answer your question, most of us probably meet those in our neighborhood when we say hello to the grandmas and pops. His supporters are loyal and old. You won’t find them at the local basketball court.

[Spurtacular]

Anyone seen any Biden yardsigns or bumper stickers? Gotten robocalled or spammed?

I've yet to meet Joe Biden fan in the wild, have y'all sighted any?

Vote blue or die is all Dems think people need to know.

[Spurtacular]

Do you still believe that still means anything? Like the amount of people at rallies?

:lol Wreck comforting herself.

[Spurtacular]

What bee is in your bonnet about this coronavirus? You seem particularly distressed (more than others on this board) by it. Makes me wonder if a family member has been affected by it. If so, my deepest sympathy.


Uh, practically every American has been affected by this. Why are you pretending it's just another day for happy talk and condescension?

Very concerned Chump! This is serious!

[ChumpDumper]

Vote blue or die is all Dems think people need to know.Literally true.


Very concerned Chump! This is serious!Are you concerned about tens of thousands of Americans dying this way?

Yes or no.

Do you think tens of thousands of Americans dying this way is serious?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Are you concerned about tens of thousands of Americans dying this way?



I'm much more concerned with Democrats wrecking the country. You running around and screaming like your head is cut off is fitting.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm much more concerned with Democrats wrecking the country. You running around and screaming like your head is cut off is fitting.You didn't answer the question. Don't make it about me. I'm asking you about you.

Are you concerned about tens of thousands of Americans dying this way?

Yes or no.

Do you think tens of thousands of Americans dying this way is serious?

Yes or no.

[Winehole23]

Even the most hardcode Dems at work talk about Biden's gaffes - they'll happily vote for him.Of course.

Enthusiasm for the presumptive nominee seems to be weak. HRC didn't have that problem.

[Spurminator]

Of course.

Enthusiasm for the presumptive nominee seems to be weak. HRC didn't have that problem.

HRC had the lowest approval rating in the history of Dem nominees, iirc. She absolutely had an enthusiasm problem.

[Reck]

HRC had the lowest approval rating in the history of Dem nominees, iirc. She absolutely had an enthusiasm problem.

I think he means Hillary had the 80-90 year old grandmas in tears. I guess that counts as enthusiasm.

[Winehole23]

HRC had the lowest approval rating in the history of Dem nominees, iirc. She absolutely had an enthusiasm problem.HRC was the second most unpopular presidential candidate in the era of modern polling, but her supporters were enthusiastic and publicly visible.

That isn't true of Joe Biden.

[ChumpDumper]

HRC was the second most unpopular presidential candidate in the era of modern polling, but her supporters were enthusiastic and publicly visible.

That isn't true of Joe Biden.:lol they're in lockdown

[pgardn]

Even the most hardcode Dems at work talk about Biden's gaffes - they'll happily vote for him.

Its a clear and simple default vote.

The orange menace is really that bad.

[Spurminator]

HRC was the second most unpopular presidential candidate in the era of modern polling, but her supporters were enthusiastic and publicly visible.

That isn't true of Joe Biden.

I don't put stock in "visible" TV-friendly enthusiasm. Bernie Sanders supposedly had the most enthusiastic following of any candidate and Biden still beat him. Buttigeig had supporters doing choreographed flash mobs and barely got more votes than Klobuchar. Hillary had an enthusiastic coastal/city following and lost every single swing state. It's not important in this election for Biden to have a band of vocal enthusiasts, who, in my opinion, typically do nothing to elevate the appeal of the candidate for the average voter.

[pgardn]

Somebody voted for Joe in the primaries.

[Reck]

I don't put stock in "visible" TV-friendly enthusiasm. Bernie Sanders supposedly had the most enthusiastic following of any candidate and Biden still beat him. Buttigeig had supporters doing choreographed flash mobs and barely got more votes than Klobuchar. Hillary had an enthusiastic coastal/city following and lost every single swing state. It's not important in this election for Biden to have a band of vocal enthusiasts, who, in my opinion, typically do nothing to elevate the appeal of the candidate.

Including in the primaries. She lost quite a few key states to Sanders during the primaries including Michigan and Wisconsin most of all.

[DMX7]

Biden’s greatest appeal is that he will win swing votes. If he tries to appease Sanders’ young voters with student debt cancellation and free everything then he will lose. The youth vote is the most unreliable and the least important in this general election. It couldn’t even keep Sanders competitive after Super Tuesday I in the dem primary. It won’t win the general election if it costs older swing voters.

[Winehole23]

I don't put stock in "visible" TV-friendly enthusiasm. Bernie Sanders supposedly had the most enthusiastic following of any candidate and Biden still beat him. Buttigeig had supporters doing choreographed flash mobs and barely got more votes than Klobuchar. Hillary had an enthusiastic coastal/city following and lost every single swing state. It's not important in this election for Biden to have a band of vocal enthusiasts, who, in my opinion, typically do nothing to elevate the appeal of the candidate for the average voter.Perhaps not. I have my doubts that mitigation will tamp down COVID-19 enough to make people feel safe on election day. Will unenthusiastic Democrats and the older voters Biden is counting on get him to 270 first when it's still dangerous to congregate in public?

[ChumpDumper]

Perhaps not. I have my doubts that mitigation will tamp down COVID-19 enough to make people feel safe on election day. Will unenthusiastic Democrats and the older voters Biden is counting on get him to 270 first when it's still dangerous to congregate in public?4If the young aren't motivated enough to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump keep fucking them.

[Winehole23]

If the young aren't motivated enough to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump keep fucking them.if young voters are necessary to beat Trump, spitting and shitting on them might not be the best way to get them to go along.

[ChumpDumper]

if young voters are necessary to beat Trump, spitting and shitting on them might not be the best way to get them to go along.If they need their asses kissed to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump and the GOP fuck them for the rest of their lives.

[Winehole23]

If they need their asses kissed to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump and the GOP fuck them for the rest of their lives.So much the worse for us all if that happens.

If it does happen, there should be blame left over for nominating such a weak candidate as Joe Biden. Maybe running the "most electable" centrist isn't such a great strategy.

[ElNono]

If the young aren't motivated enough to vote against Trump now they deserve to have Trump keep fucking them.

They get fucked either way, tbh... just a matter if they even care picking whose flaccid dick they're getting.

[ChumpDumper]

So much the worse for us all if that happens.

If it does happen, there should be blame left over for nominating such a weak candidate as Joe Biden. Maybe running the "most electable" centrist isn't such a great strategy.They didn't vote for Bernie either, so fuck them for that too.

[Winehole23]

They didn't vote for Bernie either, so fuck them for that too.Young people don't vote so much. We knew this already.

[DMX7]

So much the worse for us all if that happens.

If it does happen, there should be blame left over for nominating such a weak candidate as Joe Biden. Maybe running the "most electable" centrist isn't such a great strategy.

Hate to break it to you but Obama was a centrist.

[Reck]

So much the worse for us all if that happens.

If it does happen, there should be blame left over for nominating such a weak candidate as Joe Biden. Maybe running the "most electable" centrist isn't such a great strategy.

According to Will Hunting Biden doesn't need them? Say 15-20% of them stay home Biden can still win it.

You seem to be of the mind Bernie is a stronger candidate than Biden but it doesn't show up in reality. If say Bernie were to be the nominee, he'd have the same problem Biden has but in reversed.

Maybe making blanket statements like democratic voters are the establishment and calling Castro his bestie is not such a great idea.

Biden and Bernie are both pretty defective. Let's just leave it at that.

[ChumpDumper]

Young people don't vote so much. We knew this already.And they wonder why their asses aren't kissed.

[DMX7]

Young people don't vote so much. We knew this already.

And we’re going to go to far far left to appease the most unreliable voters?

[Winehole23]

Hate to break it to you but Obama was a centrist.Oh definitely, but he didn't run as one.

[DMX7]

Oh definitely, but he didn't run as one.

What policies was he pushing in the campaign that weren’t centrist?

[Winehole23]

And we’re going to go to far far left to appease the most unreliable voters?Bernie Sanders policies were morenpopular with Republicans than you might think. In times of political realignment like the present, the left-right dichotomy means less than it previously did.

[ChumpDumper]

Bernie Sanders policies were morenpopular with Republicans than you might think. In times of political realignment like the present, the left-right dichotomy means less than it previously did.But nobody voted for Bernie when it came down to it.

[Reck]

Oh definitely, but he didn't run as one.

Ran as one in 2012 and still got over 300+ EC votes.

[Winehole23]

What policies was he pushing in the campaign that weren’t centrist?Holding telecoms legally accountable for warrantless mass surveillance, same for torture and closing Gitmo. Reforming healthcare certainly wasn't a centrist plank in 2008.

[Winehole23]

DMX7: it's fair to point out Obama's rhetoric was more progressive than he and his policies, but to concede that is basically to grant that Obama was a deceptive campaigner.

[Winehole23]

Dp

[DMX7]

Bernie Sanders policies were morenpopular with Republicans than you might think. In times of political realignment like the present, the left-right dichotomy means less than it previously did.

I don’t think a lot of his big policy ideas were even that popular with democrats. For example, Medicare for all was a disaster with unionized workers who have fought like hell for strong private insurance.

[Winehole23]

Ran as one in 2012 and still got over 300+ EC votes.The reality of yesterday isn't a refutation of today. 2012 isn't 2016 or 2020.

[Winehole23]

I don’t think a lot of his big policy ideas were even that popular with democrats. For example, Medicare for all was a disaster with unionized workers who have fought like hell for strong private insurance.I don't think polling bears that out: Bernie's policies were more popular than he was. For better and for worse, people vote for candidates.

[Winehole23]

And they wonder why their asses aren't kissed.I'm just saying, why go out of your way to step on their dicks?

Refraining from insult =/= kissing ass.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just saying, why go out of your way to step on their dicks?

Refraining from insult =/= kissing ass.If my anonymous insult keeps them from voting against Trump they deserved to get fucked even more.

[pgardn]

DMX7 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12916): it's fair to point out Obama's rhetoric was more progressive than he and his policies, but to concede that is basically to grant that Obama was a deceptive campaigner.

Obama had to be a centrist.

A black man starts talking about really doing something about wealth disparities and reparations for sons and daughters of slaves... No way.
And as far as foreign policy. He started out making the same mistake everyone else did with Putin. Thinking you can work with him without shoving the shit out of him. Trump still has not figured this one out, especially for the election meddling which Trump is now boxed in on. The ME... a mess already. Obama stayed fairly status quo. Except he did blatantly use drones for executions. With no debate.

[Winehole23]

If my anonymous insult keeps them from voting against Trump they deserved to get fucked even more.
If we were talking about a solitary insult, sure. But we're talking about a prominent vein of political commentary in the twittersphere and elsewhere. It's not just you.

[ChumpDumper]

If we were talking about a solitary insult, sure. But we're talking about a prominent vein of political commentary in the twittersphere and elsewhere. It's not just you.OH SHIT TWITTER

If they truly are snowflakes as they've been portrayed, then yes-- they deserved to be fucked for the rest of their lives. I think they're better than that but if you don't, that's cool.

You can put that commentary on twitter if you like.

[pgardn]

I'm just saying, why go out of your way to step on their dicks?

Refraining from insult =/= kissing ass.

Because he does not want Trump in either.
And if people who could make a difference, do not...
We got a guy who is a blatant narcissistic liar who is probably using the office to make future money for him and his kiddies.
And he legitimately asked a foreign power to interfere in our elections and went to extraordinary measures to make sure he was not prosecuted.
The precedents are ridiculous. Add to that Trump can totally screw with the SC.

So I get Chump. Younger people I am friends with often just dont have time, they dont make it a priority to make time.
Because they definitely dont like Trump. (some actually do, but they will vote for whomever is president if the have sufficient stock gains; they are cynical and think everyone in politics lies pathologically)

[Spurtacular]

The reality of yesterday isn't a refutation of today. 2012 isn't 2016 or 2020.

Tell us more about this.

[Spurtacular]

OH SHIT TWITTER

If they truly are snowflakes as they've been portrayed, then yes-- they deserved to be fucked for the rest of their lives. I think they're better than that but if you don't, that's cool.

IT'S A RAT!

[ChumpDumper]

IT'S A RAT!?

[DMX7]

Tell us more about this.

It's called rhetorical antithesis, but I don't agree that it makes his point.

[monosylab1k]

They get fucked either way, tbh... just a matter if they even care picking whose flaccid dick they're getting.

This. Aside from the twitter rants, a Biden presidency isn’t going to be all that different from Trump.

[dude21]

Biden is gonna wipe the fucking floor with orange shit's face. :lol

[Reck]

This. Aside from the twitter rants, a Biden presidency isn’t going to be all that different from Trump.

That's an insane assertion.

Give a few examples on how they'll be essentially the same.

[DMX7]

This. Aside from the twitter rants, a Biden presidency isn’t going to be all that different from Trump.

You must have post traumatic stress disorder from Bernie's loss, you snowflake.

[dude21]

If my anonymous insult keeps them from voting against Trump they deserved to get fucked even more.

Good thing young people don't fucking vote. :lol

Obama got like 70 and 65 mil plus voters and the repugs have got the same voters from 2008 2012 and 2016. :lol

Biden already has the votes. Posters thinking he needs to appease the "young voters". Fucking pansies. :lol

[dude21]

Biden sees opening over Trump with older voters



Joe Biden (https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden)https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_100/public/blogs/bidenjoe_081315getty_0.jpg?itok=1cziZVZFJOE BIDEN (https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden)Overnight Energy: Trump says US will cut oil production to secure global deal | Green groups press Biden on climate plans after Sanders exit | EPA looks to suspend hazardous waste cleanups during outbreak (https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/overnights/492305-overnight-energy-trump-says-us-will-cut-oil-production-to-secure)Trump campaign, RNC reach 17 million voters with digital efforts (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492263-trump-campaign-rnc-reach-17-million-voters-with-digital-efforts)Kyle Kulinski: What went wrong for the Sanders campaign (https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/492248-kyle-kulinski-what-went-wrong-for-the-sanders-campaign)MORE (https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden)’s campaign sees a big opening with a key demographic in the general election: senior citizens.
In 2016, President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) beat Hillary Clinton (https://thehill.com/people/hillary-clinton) by 7 points with voters older than 65-years-old, according to exit polls. But this year, Biden advisers have watched Trump’s support from these voters erode in states like Florida with large senior populations.
A new CNN poll leaves the Biden campaign salivating. It shows the former vice president leading Trump nationally by 13 points with voters older than 65. It follows another YouGov poll that showed Biden tied with Trump at 49 percent.
“I think seniors are now going to be a problem for him,” one Biden aide predicted, referring to Trump. “Regardless of which poll you believe, he is doing much better with seniors than [Clinton] which is a big deal and a big part of a winning coalition.”
Even Republicans acknowledge the novel coronavirus pandemic afflicting the nation poses a unique threat to Trump with seniors. Older people are particularly vulnerable to the COVID-19 disease.
Trump and his campaign are hoping that he can convince older Americans and voters in general that his administration has responded strongly to the pandemic. But Democrats cast Trump’s response as too late, and think voters will punish him in the fall.
Some GOP strategists say Trump hurt himself by floating the idea that the economy could reopen on Easter Sunday, a position he later backtracked from. They said this gave points to critics who say Trump has underestimated the threat.
“We haven’t done ourselves any favors,” one Republican strategist said.
Republican strategist Shermichael Singleton put it this way: “The more unsteadiness Trump shows coupled with his disregard from norms and institutions, the more I believe he pushes this group into Biden’s corner.”
Another issue Biden’s campaign is ready to pounce upon is talk earlier this year from Trump that suggested he could be open to reducing entitlement spending.
During a Fox News town hall last month, Trump said he had plans to propose cuts to government programs including Medicare.
“Oh we’ll be cutting,” he said. “We’re also going to have growth like you’ve never seen before.”
White House officials spent the following days walking back Trump’s comments. “Fake news,” Trump’s former press secretary Stephanie Grisham (https://thehill.com/people/stephanie-grisham) wrote on Twitter. “POTUS was talking about cutting deficits NOT entitlements.”
Democratic strategist Eddie Vale added that Trump has “exacerbated” matters for himself with such comments.
“That is going to hurt him,” he said.
Another warning for Trump, he added was Biden’s performance with older voters in the Democratic primary.
Last month in Florida, Biden won the primary overwhelmingly and enjoyed a huge advantage with seniors over Sen. Bernie Sanders (https://thehill.com/people/bernie-sanders) (I-Vt.). A National Election Pool pre-election survey showed that 70 percent of voters older than 65 supported him.
Earlier in the campaign, on Super Tuesday, Biden also swept voters in that age group. Exit polls showed Biden picking up 48 percent of seniors, far surpassing Sanders and former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg.
“Biden has performed exceptionally well with older voters in the Democratic primary and I expect that trend would continue with older independent voters and older moderate Republican voters,” Singleton said. “They’re the most reliable voting bloc and data suggests they have an affinity for Biden and normalcy.
There’s also the personality figure.
Biden, 77 and a senior himself, is popular with older Americans because they just like him, say some opponents.
Sanders sought to cut into Biden’s popularity with seniors by highlighting statements he made on reducing budget deficits that would have considered reforms to Social Security and other programs. The attacks did little to cut into the Biden advantage.
Asked by CBS News why he was trailing Biden with older voters, Sanders replied: “Look, you know why? I’ll tell you why. Because Joe is a nice guy. Okay. He’s a decent person. … People like him.”
Republicans say Trump can beat Biden by appealing to older voters, particularly on economic issues.
Republican strategist Matt Mackowiak said much of Biden’s success will be dependent on how the pandemic shakes out in the coming months.
“If the U.S. gets through the pandemic and the economy begins to recover in [the third quarter,] Trump will gain among all groups, but specifically among seniors,” Mackowiak predicted.
But the Republican strategist said things will have to change quickly for Trump to capitalize.
“If the election happened today, I’d be biting my nails,” the strategist said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492300-biden-sees-opening-over-trump-with-older-voters



Bernie Sanders endorses Biden. :wow:wow

What are the 13 year old Burn fans gonna think now? :lmao:lmao

[Reck]

I found AaronY laptop!

1248763423195881475

[Spurtacular]

It's called rhetorical antithesis.

How so?

[monosylab1k]

That's an insane assertion.

Give a few examples on how they'll be essentially the same.

-Inept Congress that gets nothing accomplished aside from blowhard posturing.
-A lower and middle class that still get fucked over by corporations and Wall Street, zero action taken by either side.
-Warmongers still making sure “muh defense spending” is a priority over all else.
-Same shitty healthcare system with no real changes.
-Rambling, senile old fuck at the top.

[monosylab1k]

You must have post traumatic stress disorder from Bernie's loss, you snowflake.

Immediately jumping in to semenshield Gropey McSenile :lmao

[DMX7]

Immediately jumping in to semenshield Gropey McSenile :lmao

Muh revolution :cry

[monosylab1k]

Muh revolution :cry

Find one post where I show support for Bernie Sanders. Chop chop.

[Reck]

-Inept Congress that gets nothing accomplished aside from blowhard posturing.
-A lower and middle class that still get fucked over by corporations and Wall Street, zero action taken by either side.
-Warmongers still making sure “muh defense spending” is a priority over all else.
-Same shitty healthcare system with no real changes.
-Rambling, senile old fuck at the top.

That's sort of out of one's control. Trump has the Republican party by the balls and he still cant get much done.

But in terms of the courts and appointments, I expect Biden to put progressives on the courts or at the very least people who dont want to completely fuck us over and set us back decades like Trump has done with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

The fact he said he'd put a woman on there is a relief. They're less likely to come down on the wrong side of any particular divisive issue. For the people who dont like this guy like you for example, this is one reason to vote for him.

The courts matter. Ginsburg is definitely not making it past this year. Chances are she'll be forced to retired due to old age if Trump is re-elected. Then we're really fucked at 6-3.