USC is lookin mighty good. Dare I say...

[IceColdBrewski]

...Unbeatable?

[Horry For 3!]

:lmao

[IceColdBrewski]

Laugh all you want, but I don't see how anyone at the college level can beat this team the way they're playing now. They started the season off pretty lackluster, but they're peaking at just the right time.

[Horry For 3!]

USC vs Texas in the Rose Bowl

[IceColdBrewski]

USC vs Texas in the Rose Bowl

Which is the way it should be from the looks of things. But I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were a Longhorn fan.

[Horry For 3!]

Which is the way it should be from the looks of things. But I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were a Longhorn fan.
:lmao who is going to beat us?

[TexasAggie2005]

:lmao who is going to beat us?

The University of Southern California

[IceColdBrewski]

The University of Southern California

What he said.

[Dre_7]

USC will be the Champs.

[Horry For 3!]

Go ahead and think what you want.

[Mr Dio]

Which is the way it should be from the looks of things. But I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were a Longhorn fan.

These 2 teams definitely are the ones that deserve to play in the Rose Bowl.
I've seen about 3 ENTIRE Trojan games & parts of at least 3 others. That D isn't flawless & Stanford even turned the ball over inside the USC 3 yd line & had a great chance for another scored miffed up. They scored 21 on USC anyways.
I've watched every UT game & if a 62-0 win vs this yr's Baylor squad isn't impressive I think their might be a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit of bias. :lol

[Mr Dio]

The University of Southern California


Classic idiot post.
This trick hates true UT fans & has already given up on her Gaggies.
GUTLESS aggies.

[Mr Dio]

USC will be the Champs.

Well, it won't be Wisc or that GREAT RB Calhoun. :lol

[samikeyp]

USC looks awesome. Definetly deserving of a #1 ranking. They looked much the same as UT did against Baylor. Should be interesting.

[Dre_7]

Well, it won't be Wisc or that GREAT RB Calhoun. :lol

No team can be a champion with a junior high QB. So you are right about that.

[cecil collins]

I just don't know why everyone is in love with USC. How many posts a week do we have about how Texas will lose the Rose Bowl? A lot of Longhorn hate going on, and it's getting pretty pathetic. First it was Ohio st, then it was Oklahoma, now I guess the last line of defense is USC. Stop the hatred people.

[TexasAggie2005]

Classic idiot post.
This trick hates true UT fans & has already given up on her Gaggies.
GUTLESS aggies.

I've given up on a four loss team winning the national title? Gee, what a concept. Get over yourself. And you're not a true Texas fan. Where'd you go to school?

Besides, how is predicting USC will win the national title an idiot post?

[Mr Dio]

I've given up on a four loss team winning the national title? Gee, what a concept. Get over yourself. And you're not a true Texas fan. Where'd you go to school?

Besides, how is predicting USC will win the national title an idiot post?

Because you say so? :lmao
Let me see if I can piss you off again, wow, big challenge huh? :lol
Like I said, UT is MY team & WE will win the Big 12. Then WE will go to the Rose Bowl & play USC for all the marbles no matter who is riding USC's dick..

[mookie2001]

no joke^

[Mr Dio]

Amen.

[Jimcs50]

UT will beat USC by at leasr 10 pts.

I will stake my rep on being the best prognosticator in the forum on this.

I predicted that UT would win the championship before the season started and it will come true.

[Mr Dio]

Sir, I hope you're right.
That Cotton Bowl vs Georgia has scarred me too long.

[KewlKat00]

These 2 teams definitely are the ones that deserve to play in the Rose Bowl.
I've seen about 3 ENTIRE Trojan games & parts of at least 3 others. That D isn't flawless & Stanford even turned the ball over inside the USC 3 yd line & had a great chance for another scored miffed up. They scored 21 on USC anyways.
I've watched every UT game & if a 62-0 win vs this yr's Baylor squad isn't impressive I think their might be a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit of bias. :lol

i agree. after yesterday, it is quite obvious who should be playing in the rose bowl. and hopefully, that will come true because it will be a great game for everyone.

the trojan d isn't flawless... but we also didnt have our first or even second string in when stanford scored the last two touchdowns. i think it is important to note the score when the first team was playing was 44-7. after the first few minutes in the 3rd quarter you could see all of the big time players on the sideline (hence the 51-21 final score).


just don't know why everyone is in love with USC. How many posts a week do we have about how Texas will lose the Rose Bowl? A lot of Longhorn hate going on, and it's getting pretty pathetic. First it was Ohio st, then it was Oklahoma, now I guess the last line of defense is USC. Stop the hatred people.

i think the same can be said about texas: how many posts (even in this thread) refer to them beating usc in the rose bowl?

[IceColdBrewski]

UT will beat USC by at leasr 10 pts.

I will stake my rep on being the best prognosticator in the forum on this.

I predicted that UT would win the championship before the season started and it will come true.

Actually, you're no better at predicting than anybody here. You just love to brag about yourself more than anyone else.

Speaking of which, you predicted that USC would lose at least 2 games this year. What happened oh great prognosticator?

[TexasAggie2005]

Actually, you're no better at predicting than anybody here. You just love to brag about yourself more than anyone else.

Speaking of which, you predicted that USC would lose at least 2 games this year. What happened oh great prognosticator?

:tu

[Mr Dio]

Actually, you're no better at predicting than anybody here. You just love to brag about yourself more than anyone else.

Speaking of which, you predicted that USC would lose at least 2 games this year. What happened oh great prognosticator?


If there is anyone that is 100% for the season I need their phone # so I can lay down some serious cash. :lol
Anyone seen that 2 for the Money flick? Is it good?

[Mr Dio]

i agree. after yesterday, it is quite obvious who should be playing in the rose bowl. and hopefully, that will come true because it will be a great game for everyone.

the trojan d isn't flawless... but we also didnt have our first or even second string in when stanford scored the last two touchdowns. i think it is important to note the score when the first team was playing was 44-7. after the first few minutes in the 3rd quarter you could see all of the big time players on the sideline (hence the 51-21 final score).



i think the same can be said about texas: how many posts (even in this thread) refer to them beating usc in the rose bowl?

Man, over a grand for a pair of tkts.
At least I won't be paying for a place to stay. My bud from the Corps lives on Manchester near LAX. He is actually a couple of blocks from Playa.
I like the LA nightlife on retro night. The Palace still have a KROQ night once a month? I think every Thur or Sat night was KROQ night back in the late 80s.

[KewlKat00]

Man, over a grand for a pair of tkts.
At least I won't be paying for a place to stay. My bud from the Corps lives on Manchester near LAX. He is actually a couple of blocks from Playa.
I like the LA nightlife on retro night. The Palace still have a KROQ night once a month? I think every Thur or Sat night was KROQ night back in the late 80s.

not sure. i usually just stick to the pubs.

not to jinx anything because there are 3 games remaining, but i am just hoping i get tickets in the season ticket holders lottery. i have my entry and another entry for a chance. if we get either, then i will definitely be there. i wouldn't technically need a place to stay, but it's good to stay around pasadena because getting there on game day is a pain. but then again, it isn't on january 1st this year so that helps.

[Mr Dio]

I might stay with some family in Whittier or Pico Rivera since that is closer than the LAX area.
What is the website were you could bid on a chance to buy tkts?

[Jimcs50]

Actually, you're no better at predicting than anybody here. You just love to brag about yourself more than anyone else.

Speaking of which, you predicted that USC would lose at least 2 games this year. What happened oh great prognosticator?


so, a miracle play against ND kept me from being right....so what?




When UT beats USC, I will be the only one in here that was right about that in the preseason.

:smokin

[TexasAggie2005]

ND beating USC wouldn't give them two losses.

And the idea is that if you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it's bound to stick. Even I might end up being right about a couple things if I make enough predictions.

[Jimcs50]

ND beating USC wouldn't give them two losses.

And the idea is that if you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it's bound to stick. Even I might end up being right about a couple things if I make enough predictions.


The UT win would have given them 2 losses, but it looks like only the 1st loss.

I do not make that many predictions...but when I do, they are usually right.

The last one was me getting every Spurs series correct last yr in predicting the exact number of games in every series.

The odds of doing that are 1/8x1/8x1/8x1/8= 1/4000( eight different possibilities in a seven game series)

That my friend is damn good, yes?

[TexasAggie2005]

The UT win would have given them 2 losses, but it looks like only the 1st loss.

I do not make that many predictions...but when I do, they are usually right.

The last one was me getting every Spurs series correct last yr in predicting the exact number of games in every series.

The odds of doing that are 1/8x1/8x1/8x1/8= 1/4000( eight different possibilities in a seven game series)

That my friend is damn good, yes?

No. You're not so great at probability. The odds of predicting each series individually would be 1/8 if all possibilities were equal. They're not even close. You think the Spurs odds of beating the Nuggets in five were the same as the Nuggets sweeping the Spurs? I would peg picking all four series correct in the number of games at around 1/100 (rough estimate and being generous for you). Like I said, you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it sticks. I've seen plenty of predictions you've missed on.

And Texas has yet to beat USC. Not saying they won't, but let's wait and see before we count that as correct, okay?

[Jimcs50]

No. You're not so great at probability. The odds of predicting each series individually would be 1/8 if all possibilities were equal. They're not even close. You think the Spurs odds of beating the Nuggets in five were the same as the Nuggets sweeping the Spurs? I would peg picking all four series correct in the number of games at around 1/100 (rough estimate and being generous for you). Like I said, you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it sticks. I've seen plenty of predictions you've missed on.

And Texas has yet to beat USC. Not saying they won't, but let's wait and see before we count that as correct, okay?

Ok, if that is true, I will give you 100-1 odds on you picking 4 straight series this coming year.

You bet $100 and I will pay you 10K if you get all 4 correct...ok?

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, if Texas doesn't choke, they should make the title game.

[Jimcs50]

Well, if Texas doesn't choke, they should make the title game.

They will not choke...bank on it.

They already beat the crap out of Colorado, they will do it again.

[kskonn]

You know I have to say. i am a huge notre dame fan and i have never been a big UT (mac brown, don't like him) fan, so i will make these observations.

UT looks really good. I keep waiting for their annual collapse and it does not look like it is going to come. USC is USC. I think the thing about USC is that they play to the level of their competition. So judging them against another team is pointless in my opinion.

I also think that if you give Pete Carrol a month to scheme his defense against texas that he will be successefull. Also USC still has a few starters injured on Defense they will be back for the championship game(assuming USC is in it)

But man every time I watch texas they look really good so who knows. I think it will be a great game.

[mookie2001]

if only Texas had Carlyle Holiday

[j-6]

if only Texas had Carlyle Holiday

And right when I was about to make some wise-ass comment on him being in SA working at the Wash Tub, I find this.

http://www.azcardinals.com/team/player_bio.html?iid=1744

[mookie2001]

he sucked so bad
he's from SA though so I can't scoff him
If only he was a hispanic liberal spursfan who liked Wu-Tang, he would be like my idol

[tlongII]

Jimcs will be proven wrong at the Rose Bowl. USC has more talent at the offensive skill positions than any college football I have ever seen. While it is true that their defense can be scored upon they are also very opportunistic. They force a lot of turnovers. The Trojans will have a difficult time against Cal, but if they get through that they will roll the rest of the way. Texas is good, but I can't see Vince Young delivering a national title.

[j-6]

Jimcs will be proven wrong at the Rose Bowl. USC has more talent at the offensive skill positions than any college football I have ever seen. While it is true that their defense can be scored upon they are also very opportunistic. They force a lot of turnovers. The Trojans will have a difficult time against Cal, but if they get through that they will roll the rest of the way. Texas is good, but I can't see Vince Young delivering a national title.


I think the only way to beat USC just happens to play into Texas' favor. Only one team tried to establish a running game against the Trojans, and that was Notre Dame - 52 carries. I know of course that teams down 35-7 at halftime generally throw the ball more, but keeping the SC offense off the field by pounding the running game looks like as good of a strategy as any.

[Extra Stout]

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[Oh, Gee!!]

All I want is the chance to dethrone USC.

[Ballcox]

I love UT's matchup possibilites with USC. USC does not have a great defense, average at best. UT has the the 3rd best rushing offense in the country. I think UT could keep the USC offense off the field with time consuming/running game type drives, also added in is the way the UT offensive line would wear down USC's defense. I think that type of game plan would work very well, never give the USC offense a chance to find any kind of rhythm. I also don't feel that USC has come close to playing a team as deep and talented as UT. It would be a great match-up and one that will hopefully pan out in the near future. Hook'em! :smokin

[tlongII]

texas vs. a team not named, because usc

is in the rose bowl

book it


???

[cecil collins]

He pulled it out of his ass with all the other shit he says. He keeps a talkin' even though he is always wrong. I am also not dazzled with Jimcs50. You are more a braggart than a nostradamus. I've seen you be wrong plenty, but you only trumpet when you are right.

The rose bowl will be a shootout, unless Texas and Vince Young start off in a funk(as they sometimes do.) I don't think they can give up a big lead to USC and overcome it. Should be a hell of a game to watch. By the way, thanks Miami.

[TexasAggie2005]

Ok, if that is true, I will give you 100-1 odds on you picking 4 straight series this coming year.

You bet $100 and I will pay you 10K if you get all 4 correct...ok?

Even if I thought you'd actually pay out, that wouldn't make the bet worth it. If I think there's a 1/100 shot and you give me 100-1 odds, the best I could do is break even (assuming my estimate is accurate). You should only bet when you think your odds are better than the betting odds. Congratulations, you still fail at probability.

How about instead of acting like a tough guy, you explain the math behind your 1/4000 odds or admit they're wrong? And again, you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it sticks. Stop bragging about a couple lucky picks, you've been wrong plenty of times.

[Jimcs50]

Even if I thought you'd actually pay out, that wouldn't make the bet worth it. If I think there's a 1/100 shot and you give me 100-1 odds, the best I could do is break even (assuming my estimate is accurate). You should only bet when you think your odds are better than the betting odds. Congratulations, you still fail at probability.

How about instead of acting like a tough guy, you explain the math behind your 1/4000 odds or admit they're wrong? And again, you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it sticks. Stop bragging about a couple lucky picks, you've been wrong plenty of times.



The math is:

There are 8 different outcomes in a 7 game series.

Team A wins in 4, 5, 6, or 7 games

Team B wins in 4, 5, 6, or 7 games

So, you have 8 different ways to call a series.

Hence the 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 = roughly 1/4000 give or take.

Now as you said, SA was the favorite, so there was a slight deviation in the probabilities...but, there are upsets, so there still was a chance that SA could have lost to Denver in the 1st round.

BTW, I have 10k to bet...ask anyone who knows me, but it is stupid to bet a hundred at only 100-1 odds. you would be getting screwed.

[TexasAggie2005]

The math is:

There are 8 different outcomes in a 7 game series.

Team A wins in 4, 5, 6, or 7 games

Team B wins in 4, 5, 6, or 7 games

So, you have 8 different ways to call a series.

Hence the 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 = roughly 1/4000 give or take.

You still fail. The odds of a sweep are much lower than the odds of a six game series. Besides, you're going to pick San Antonio every series just like the rest of us homers (not to mention the fact we were favored every series, which tilts the odds more than a "slight deviation"). That gets rid of half of your picks right there. I'd peg the odds of you picking the outcomes you did at 1/2 to 1/3 every series.


BTW, I have 10k to bet...ask anyone who knows me, but it is stupid to bet a hundred at only 100-1 odds. you would be getting screwed.

Wooo, look at me, I'm rich. Good for you, quit trying to piss it away. And the bet would be bad for me because of the crappy odds, not the amount I'd be betting. The amount you bet has nothing to do with whether the bet is a good one or not. If you gave me 200-1 odds on something I thought had 1/100 chances of happening, it's a good bet no matter how much I put on it.

[samikeyp]

Aww man, I hate to see Aggies fight. C'mon you two...say howdy and make up. :)

Besides if Jim wants to bet, let him...he is usually right.

[Jimcs50]

Wooo, look at me, I'm rich. Good for you, quit trying to piss it away. And the bet would be bad for me because of the crappy odds, not the amount I'd be betting. The amount you bet has nothing to do with whether the bet is a good one or not. If you gave me 200-1 odds on something I thought had 1/100 chances of happening, it's a good bet no matter how much I put on it.

I am not saying I am rich, I was just answering you when you said you doubted I would pay you the 10K.

I can not afford to lose 10K...my wife would kill me...but a grand is doable, if you want to bet that.

Did you happen to check out my prediction last night?

I was right on.

:)

[tlongII]

I am not saying I am rich, I was just answering you when you said you doubted I would pay you the 10K.

I can not afford to lose 10K...my wife would kill me...but a grand is doable, if you want to bet that.

Did you happen to check out my prediction last night?

I was right on.

:)


Listen up Nostradumbass! There is no way in hell that Texas will beat USC in the Rose Bowl. I will bet wine on it.

[Jimcs50]

Listen up Nostradumbass! There is no way in hell that Texas will beat USC in the Rose Bowl. I will bet wine on it.

You're on!!!


Sokol Blosser(Oregon wine) for me, Messina Hof(Texas Wine) for you..

[tlongII]

You're on!!!


Sokol Blosser(Oregon wine) for me, Messina Hof(Texas Wine) for you..

Deal.

[50 cent]

USC will win it all and I'm not just saying that because I am an Aggie. Texas is damn good and deserves to play for it all. The Aggies suck ass no doubt.

However, I work out in Orange County and see tons of USC and Texas coverage and I just think USC is damn near a pro team with all their weapons. Texas has a slightly better D, but USC offense is better than Texas' D.

I think it would be a great game, but USC would win by 7-10.

[Mr. Peabody]

USC will win it all and I'm not just saying that because I am an Aggie. Texas is damn good and deserves to play for it all. The Aggies suck ass no doubt.

However, I work out in Orange County and see tons of USC and Texas coverage and I just think USC is damn near a pro team with all their weapons. Texas has a slightly better D, but USC offense is better than Texas' D.

I think it would be a great game, but USC would win by 7-10.

I don't know. I think Texas the Texas offense is almost as good as USC's, but the Texas defense is much better than the USC defense. It will be a good game, until Young takes over and rushes for 200+ yards and scores 4 touchdowns.

UT 42 -- USC 28
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[TexasAggie2005]

I am not saying I am rich, I was just answering you when you said you doubted I would pay you the 10K.

I can not afford to lose 10K...my wife would kill me...but a grand is doable, if you want to bet that.

Did you happen to check out my prediction last night?

I was right on.

:)

I'm pretty sure you missed the number of points, although someone else hit it on the head. And saying Timmy is going to go off isn't exactly a shocking prediction. Look, I'm not trying to get on your case here. It's just a little annoying when you're so arrogant. You got lucky and predicted a couple of things semi-correctly that weren't as hard to predict as you thought they were. And then you gloss over the parts you messed up. Don't get cocky.

I don't bet with people on the Internet. For one thing, I don't trust them to pay up. For another, you shouldn't be betting money you can't afford to lose. I'm a poor student.

[TexasAggie2005]

USC wins in a landslide. Giving a team like USC, with the variety of offensive weapons they have, a month to prepare for a football game is a recipe for slaughter. That's why OU got stomped, I really don't think they were that inferior of a team. I don't think Texas is that much worse than USC, but I think USC wins by at least three touchdowns. Assuming both teams get there of course.

[samikeyp]

not much worse than USC but loses by 3 TD's? sounds much worse to me. Then again, I know you can't be objective.

[kskonn]

if only Texas had Carlyle Holiday

they would be number 1 for sure......yea right that would make me the ultimate notredame/san antonio(roosevelt highschool) homer. That guy was a flop, horrible recruiting job by bob davie....


seriously though, UT and USC is going to be a game... I am rooting for Texas because they are my home team... but man it is going to be a game.

[TexasAggie2005]

not much worse than USC but loses by 3 TD's? sounds much worse to me. Then again, I know you can't be objective.

Did you read why I said that? I think they're fairly equal in talent. But Pete Carroll will do a lot better job preparing a game plan than Mack will. For one thing, he's got a wider variety of talent to hit Texas with. Texas is good, but fairly predictable and the Trojans will be prepared for what Young does. Look at what USC did to OU last year.

And you're right, I'm probably not objective. Three TDs might be a bit much, but I think USC still wins easily. Of course none of this means Texas won't beat us by eight TDs. :depressed

[cecil collins]

You can't prepare for a Young that can pass. It's too many threats. You gotta decide:do you want to make him beat you with the pass, or with his legs? I don't know why people are calling for a blowout, unless they hate Texas. USC will not dominate Texas.

[Mr Dio]

not much worse than USC but loses by 3 TD's? sounds much worse to me. Then again, I know you can't be objective.


Amen. :lmao

[Mr Dio]

Did you read why I said that? I think they're fairly equal in talent. But Pete Carroll will do a lot better job preparing a game plan than Mack will. For one thing, he's got a wider variety of talent to hit Texas with. Texas is good, but fairly predictable and the Trojans will be prepared for what Young does. Look at what USC did to OU last year.

And you're right, I'm probably not objective. Three TDs might be a bit much, but I think USC still wins easily. Of course none of this means Texas won't beat us by eight TDs. :depressed

With a scouting report like that I guess every team UT has played except Ohio St could've won the game instead of lose by a margin of something like 20-62pts. :lmao

[samikeyp]

Did you read why I said that? I think they're fairly equal in talent. But Pete Carroll will do a lot better job preparing a game plan than Mack will. For one thing, he's got a wider variety of talent to hit Texas with. Texas is good, but fairly predictable and the Trojans will be prepared for what Young does. Look at what USC did to OU last year.
You said they were "fairly equal" then you said UT would lose by 3 TD's. That is not fairly equal. Its either one or the other. Then again I know you believe the latter for the sole reason of where you attend school and no other reason. Also, the two teams will have a month to prepare for one another. You don't think Texas will be prepared for SC? UT hasn't seen an offense like Southern Cal's but then again SC hasn't seen a defense like Texas. If they meet it should be a hell of a game.

[TexasAggie2005]

I said they were fairly equal talentwise. Not that the score would be fairly equal. And you make Young beat you throwing, he's not consistent enough passing. Contain his running ability (which USC can do) and make him put it in the air.

Did you guys see what USC did to OU last year with a month to prepare? Simply put, they've got a greater variety of weapons to hit you with and are thus more difficult to prepare for. I think Carroll's also a lot better at preparing his team than Mack. But I guess we'll all find out in a couple months. Where's the "great prognosticator" Jim? Jim, you care to wager your reputation on this one?

[TexasAggie2005]

With a scouting report like that I guess every team UT has played except Ohio St could've won the game instead of lose by a margin of something like 20-62pts. :lmao

Texas hasn't played anyone else with a comparable talent level. Who's the best team (other than tOSU) Texas has played?

[cecil collins]

Texas hasn't played anyone else with a comparable talent level. Who's the best team (other than tOSU) Texas has played?
Who has SC played that is as good as Texas?

OU last year was a different team. You stop the run, and put pressure on White and they were pedestrian. Good luck doing that to this team. Making Vince throw will be a mistake because the recievers are much improved, and it would make them vulnerable downfield. Stopping Vince's running=huge passing lanes and Texas victory. I look forward to the game, if things should go as assumed.

[TexasAggie2005]

Who has SC played that is as good as Texas?

I didn't say they had. Read the quote I was replying to before you make assumptions. You make Vince pass because he's inconsistent and at times not very accurate with his passes. Playing against bad teams (and Texas' schedule has been weaker overall than USC's) has made him look better than he is. Didn't everyone think OU would be difficult for USC to stop last year with AD running the ball and White throwing it all over them? We all know how that went, huh?

[cecil collins]

Didn't everyone think OU would be difficult for USC to stop last year with AD running the ball and White throwing it all over them? We all know how that went, huh?

Not me certainly, and I'm sure USC was the favorite to win that game. Like I said, if you can stop Peterson, and pressure White, you can win big. Texas is not that easy to figure out.

OU was a different team, and SC's defense is not as strong. You can call for a blowout, just as long as you man up to it when Texas gives SC everything they asked for and more. It'll be a great game.

[KewlKat00]

Not me certainly, and I'm sure USC was the favorite to win that game. Like I said, if you can stop Peterson, and pressure White, you can win big. Texas is not that easy to figure out.

OU was a different team, and SC's defense is not as strong. You can call for a blowout, just as long as you man up to it when Texas gives SC everything they asked for and more. It'll be a great game.

ou was actually a 1.5 point favorite if i recall correctly. most of the big time announcers even picked ou in a close game.

i think it is only natural for people to be biased when it comes to college football, but how come texasaggie gets shit for saying that sc is going to win big when probably more than half the people in this thread keep saying that texas is going to win (including the above part "when Texas gives SC everything they asked for and more"... that says when not if... ) when the fact is not a single one of us knows what will happen nor will we until january 4th (hopefully if everything falls into place). until then, its just speculation on both parts.

[TexasAggie2005]

Not me certainly, and I'm sure USC was the favorite to win that game. Like I said, if you can stop Peterson, and pressure White, you can win big. Texas is not that easy to figure out.

OU was a different team, and SC's defense is not as strong. You can call for a blowout, just as long as you man up to it when Texas gives SC everything they asked for and more. It'll be a great game.

Of course everyone claims now they thought USC would win big. Fact is, virtually no one predicted it before hand. Texas' offense is much simpler than OU's was last year. It's not that hard to figure out, but no one y'all have played has had the speed and athletic ability to cover it. USC does.

And I love how you think OU was so easy to stop. Stop Peterson (yeah, like that was easy) and pressure White (like OU's line was a bunch of slouches). How come Texas couldn't beat OU last year if they were that easy to stop?

[TexasAggie2005]

i think it is only natural for people to be biased when it comes to college football, but how come texasaggie gets shit for saying that sc is going to win big when probably more than half the people in this thread keep saying that texas is going to win (including the above part "when Texas gives SC everything they asked for and more"... that says when not if... )

Amen. I'm a biased Aggie and you're a bunch of biased t-sips. And I have no problem admitting it IF I turn out to be wrong. I never meant anything as more than a prediction anyhow, I don't make guarantees. There's too much uncertainty in college football.

[samikeyp]

Amen. I'm a biased Aggie and you're a bunch of biased t-sips.

Nice assumption. :rolleyes I am pretty sure that Aggie Hoopsfan is not a biased t-sip. Neither is Jim, Hussker or Tlong. Even Dio...ok...Dio is biased but he is not a t-sip! :) I am a Texas fan but not being an alum that removes me from "t-sip" status and I do think that USC would beat Texas in a matchup...tell me again how I am biased...I just don't think it will be by 3 TD's and I don't think that if teams are evenly matched, one will beat the other by 3 TD's.


when the fact is not a single one of us knows what will happen nor will we until january 4th (hopefully if everything falls into place). until then, its just speculation on both parts.

on this...we agree.

[KewlKat00]

Nice assumption. :rolleyes I am pretty sure that Aggie Hoopsfan is not a biased t-sip. Neither is Jim, Hussker or Tlong. Even Dio...ok...Dio is biased but he is not a t-sip! :) I am a Texas fan but not being an alum that removes me from "t-sip" status and I do think that USC would beat Texas in a matchup...tell me again how I am biased...I just don't think it will be by 3 TD's and I don't think that if teams are evenly matched, one will beat the other by 3 TD's.

i didn't necessarily mean you about the biased part, but there is definitely some bias going on in here (hell, i am guilty too... fight on!). people might not necessarily be biased for (or against) texas or usc, but for the big 12 of for the pac-10. you don't have to be an alum or a fan to have these opinions. that's just what i think.

i don't think that usc will win by 3 TDs (i am the nervous fan type), but i can understand, based on last year, how someone can say that even though the talent seems similar usc could win by 3 TDs. last year, usc and ou had similar seasons. it was supposed to be an epic matchup. but ou was supposed to have the stronger o-line, better defense, and better running game. while usc had the passing game and special teams. well we all saw how that turned out. i don't think ou was a bad team (ask the other 12 teams they played). i mean how many of their players went to the nfl? usc was just incredibily prepared and capitalized. of course, this is a completely different year so who knows.

[samikeyp]

Its all good Kewl...I was referring to TexasAggie2005 and his "you're a bunch of biased t-sips" comment. I thought you made great points in your posts.

[kskonn]

I also think it is important to mention that USC will get back a few starters on defense if they make it to the national championship game. I think one of thier injured players is a corner, a good corner. That could make a big difference.

[KewlKat00]

I also think it is important to mention that USC will get back a few starters on defense if they make it to the national championship game. I think one of thier injured players is a corner, a good corner. That could make a big difference.

well a starting cornerback and starting linebacker are out for the season. but our new cornerback will gain experience and his backup (who started a few games) should be healed by then (ankle sprain). also we have a few other linebackers with injuries (knee sprain and hamstring problems) that should be okay soon.

[TexasAggie2005]

Nice assumption. :rolleyes I am pretty sure that Aggie Hoopsfan is not a biased t-sip. Neither is Jim, Hussker or Tlong. Even Dio...ok...Dio is biased but he is not a t-sip! :) I am a Texas fan but not being an alum that removes me from "t-sip" status and I do think that USC would beat Texas in a matchup...tell me again how I am biased...I just don't think it will be by 3 TD's and I don't think that if teams are evenly matched, one will beat the other by 3 TD's.

Ok, so obviously I wasn't referring to every single other person in the thread. Way to take that out of context. I was just talking about everyone who's so confident Texas will win handily. Notice I've never referred to "when USC beats Texas", etc. I happen to think USC will win fairly easily, but I've never said that's anything other than my own personal opinion.

[samikeyp]

Not out of context at all...those were your exact words. I know its your opinion, that was never disputed.

[TexasAggie2005]

Not out of context at all...those were your exact words. I know its your opinion, that was never disputed.

Ok, whatever. You knew what I meant. Obviously saying "y'all" wasn't intended to mean every single person, especially since a few people are predicting a USC win. And just because they're my exact words doesn't mean they can't be taken out of context. Or do we want to get into an English debate, too?

[samikeyp]

I went by exactly what you said in your post. You may have meant something different but unless you say that...how do we know for sure? You could have meant that and are now lying about it...you could be telling truth. Who knows for sure? But you want me to believe you just because you say so.

[TexasAggie2005]

Why? because you said so? Y'all can refer to a group of people as well as every single person in a group.

I did? How? All you did was type. I don't know you. You can't tell emotion or meaning from typewritten words. If I was talking to you and I could hear the emotion or if I knew you personally that might be different. You may have meant it that way, you may not have...but I am supposed to take your word as gospel JUST because you say so?

Ok, whatever, this is all pointless. I assumed you could sense the joking tone of the post. I also figured you might give me the respect to think I would know that not all of you are Longhorn homers. Evidently not. My mistake, from now on I'll just assume that you're going to take everything literally word for word.

For future reference, traditionally one would say "all y'all" when talking to everyone (at least where I'm from).

[samikeyp]

Respect has to be earned on both sides.

[TexasAggie2005]

How do you assume tone by strictly a written word?

Context clues. Think back to junior high. How do you tell tone in a book? It's just a bunch of written words.


Unless we know you or hear you speak...how else would we take it?

Well, you could assume I have a small amount of common sense. You don't think I realize someone with the screenname AGGIEhoopsfan isn't a Longhorn homer? You don't think I realize that EVERY SINGLE PERSON other than me posting in the thread didn't go to Texas? Look, it was obviously an off the cuff statement that I didn't mean literally. But like I said, this is a pointless tangential argument. So from now on (in this thread) I'll post everything completely literally for the people who didn't pass English in junior high. If you ask nice, I might even go back and put little warnings on my posts that they're not entirely literal. But only if you ask nice.

EDIT: It's hard to keep track of what the hell you're talking about when: A) You make no sense and B) You keep editing everything out of your posts.

[samikeyp]

Well that leaves me out because I got A's in English all through junior high and high school.


You don't think I realize that EVERY SINGLE PERSON other than me posting in the thread didn't go to Texas?

Some may have. You don't know that. I didn't but I have made that apparent.

EDIT: So because you don't like what I say...I don't make sense. I edit for the sake of not being a jerk.

[TexasAggie2005]

Well that leaves me out because I got A's in English all through junior high and high school.

Good for you. If only you could remember how to use the stuff you learned.


Some may have. You don't know that. I didn't but I have made that apparent.

EDIT: So because you don't like what I say...I don't make sense. I edit for the sake of not being a jerk.

That's my entire point. I know some people here might have gone to Texas, but obviously all of them didn't. This is what the entire argument's about. This is what you're making such a big deal about. The fact that you thought I thought EVERYONE here went to Texas. Not that no one did.

If you don't want to be a jerk, why post it in the first place? And you don't make sense because your arguments are illogical, not because I disagree with them.

[cecil collins]

But like I said, this is a pointless tangential argument.
Funny you say that it is pointless when your posts about it are 4 times longer than his.

[TexasAggie2005]

Funny you say that it is pointless when your posts about it are 4 times longer than his.

I didn't bring it up. Besides, his posts are shorter because he only responds to the parts of my posts he wants to. Well, and because he edits large portions of them out after the fact. Uh oh, my post is getting longer than yours....

[samikeyp]

Illogical? Why...because you say so?

I edited my posts because I want to keep this as a friendly debate and not a mudfest like you are trying to do.

My posts make sense...you either can't or don't want to understand them. If you would rather me respond to every line of your post, instead of the ones that I have interest in or an issue with, I would be glad to.

[bull62400]

I say USC will win the National Championship, they are unbeatable! Texas has too easy of a schedule whereas USC has an extremely hard schedule! The win against Notre Dame shows that you can't beat this team. Texas is a formidable opponent, but USC takes the cake by a long shot.

oh yea, and uhhh, Go Irish!....

[MosesGuthrie]

The only reason Mister Aggie is picking USC is because he hates Texas. They are conditioned to do that. You are obviously not a Texan because a true Texan always roots for a Texas school against a non-Texas school. Homers are pussies anyway.

[samikeyp]

Whoa man...that is a little harsh. I don't agree with him but he has the right to root for who he wants.


I say USC will win the National Championship, they are unbeatable! Texas has too easy of a schedule whereas USC has an extremely hard schedule! The win against Notre Dame shows that you can't beat this team. Texas is a formidable opponent, but USC takes the cake by a long shot.

I agree with that...I want Texas to win but I think USC is too strong for them.

[MosesGuthrie]

Fuck that.....I hate the fucking Aggie...bunch of goddamn mindless Hitler youth. Watch, when Texas beats the holy fuck out of the Faggies...he will either disappear or make excuses.

[bull62400]

Whoa man...that is a little harsh. I don't agree with him but he has the right to root for who he wants.



I agree with that...I want Texas to win but I think USC is too strong for them.

By the way, im not a USC fan... haha! Im actually an ND fan who has respect for USC. They are that good. As far as Texas, im an aggie fan! So yea! But I used to love Texas and was a BIG Major Applewhite fan!! Which means I dislike Mack Brown and his Longhorns! (You get what I'm saying...)So yea, I'm a lil' biased towards USC. Sorry for the comment. It was harsh.

[bull62400]

Fuck that.....I hate the fucking Aggie...bunch of goddamn mindless Hitler youth. Watch, when Texas beats the holy fuck out of the Faggies...he will either disappear or make excuses.

Just cuz we're conservative and we like Bush doesnt mean we're facist.

[TexasAggie2005]

Illogical? Why...because you say so?

I edited my posts because I want to keep this as a friendly debate and not a mudfest like you are trying to do.

My posts make sense...you either can't or don't want to understand them. If you would rather me respond to every line of your post, instead of the ones that I have interest in or an issue with, I would be glad to.

Illogical? At one point you say I think everyone here went to Texas. Next post you're telling me that you didn't go to Texas, but maybe some people did. And this whole thing started because you got all upset that I made an off the cuff remark that anyone should have been able to recognize as being hyperbole. That's pretty illogical in and of itself. Your posts make no sense because you're trying to start a whole argument based off your poor ability to read what I'm trying to say and then trying to place the blame for that on me. Then when I tried to correct you and explain what I meant, you got all pissy and tried to tell me that I couldn't define what I was trying to say. What the hell use is it in me explaining what I said when you're not going to accept my explanation? What'd you want me to say when you started this? I told you what I was trying to say (although it was pretty easy to see in the first place) and then you refuse to accept my explanation.

Don't try to pretend like I'm the one who's trying to start something. You brought it up, you got antagonistic and now I'm the one getting frustrated. How are you going to have a friendly debate with the whole premise for the debate being your twisting my words and taking a ridiculous interpretation for them? How am I supposed to have a "friendly debate" trying to explain to you what the hell I meant if you're going to ignore that?

One more time, if you don't want to be rude, why post it in the first place?

[TexasAggie2005]

The only reason Mister Aggie is picking USC is because he hates Texas. They are conditioned to do that. You are obviously not a Texan because a true Texan always roots for a Texas school against a non-Texas school. Homers are pussies anyway.

Right, because it sounds like you'd be really happy to root for A&M. And maybe I think USC will win because they've won 30 some odd games in a row and are undefeated? Funny, the polls seem to like them, too. Gee, I wonder why?

[samikeyp]

Sorry Bull...I was referring to Moses' comment...not yours.

I understand your dislike of Mack Brown...even as a Texas fan...I am not enamored with him.

Moses....that Hitler comment was wayyy out of line, dude.

[bull62400]

Right, because it sounds like you'd be really happy to root for A&M. And maybe I think USC will win because they've won 30 some odd games in a row and are undefeated? Funny, the polls seem to like them, too. Gee, I wonder why?
haha! U rock!

[samikeyp]

One more time, if you don't want to be rude, why post it in the first place?

So now, if I post something you disagree with...I am rude. I, like you, have the right to post as I feel...you don''t like it...So be it.


Moses....you talk shit about the Ags but then you call them "not true Texans" if they don't root for UT when you feel its important. Can't have it both ways bro. I personally do root for Texas teams when they play out of state opponents but it doesn't make anyone less loyal to the state if they don't.

[samikeyp]

Don't try to pretend like I'm the one who's trying to start something.

you did...you said the initial quote in question.


How are you going to have a friendly debate with the whole premise for the debate being your twisting my words and taking a ridiculous interpretation for them?
Ridiculous...in your opinion...I disagree.


How am I supposed to have a "friendly debate" trying to explain to you what the hell I meant if you're going to ignore that
I didn't ignore it. My point was that until you explained it, you wanted me to assume what you meant but had not yet clarified.

[MosesGuthrie]

Jeez...what a bunch of pussies. I hate when women fight. I would root for the Ags..if they were good enough to make a bowl game. Too bad they suck ass. Its ok though...like I said....when VY and the Horns rape the Ags....Faggie fans will scatter or make excuses.

[TexasAggie2005]

So now, if I post something you disagree with...I am rude. I, like you, have the right to post as I feel...you don''t like it...So be it.


Moses....you talk shit about the Ags but then you call them "not true Texans" if they don't root for UT when you feel its important. Can't have it both ways bro. I personally do root for Texas teams when they play out of state opponents but it doesn't make anyone less loyal to the state if they don't.

You were the one who edited out sections of your post because you said you were trying to keep this a "clean debate" and not turn it into a mudfest. If you didn't consider that to be the equivalent of a rude comment, my mistake. I don't really care what you post, it doesn't bother me if you call me names. Honestly, I was more annoyed that your posts kept drastically changing what they said.

Also, I never said anything about being a USC fan. Quite the contrary, I grew up a Notre Dame fan. I'm actually sort of apathetic about a USC/Texas game. I wish they could both find a way to lose. I guess I don't bear quite the hatred for USC that I do for Texas, but I'm a long ways from being a Trojan fan.

[samikeyp]

"Faggies"

*sniff* *sniff*
I smell Dio. :lol

[TexasAggie2005]

you did...you said the initial quote in question.

And you're the one who made a big stink about something I posted.


Ridiculous...in your opinion...I disagree.

At least unlikely. Or you could just take my word that you interpreted it incorrectly and we could've dropped this twenty posts ago.


I didn't ignore it. My point was that until you explained it, you wanted me to assume what you meant but had not yet clarified.

I explained what I meant (not that it was that hard to understand in the first place) a LONG time ago. You've chosen to continue it.

[samikeyp]

My posts said the same thing...I changed the wording to keep it civil.

I never said you were a USC fan nor did I call you names. I even defended you when Moses spewed his hate.

[samikeyp]

I explained what I meant (not that it was that hard to understand in the first place) a LONG time ago. You've chosen to continue it.

And I explained myself a long time ago. You've chosen to continue it, even after you said you wouldn't. I guess you are wanting me to surrender and give in. I don't plan to. We can end this and move on or continue. Your choice...I would rather talk football personally.

[TexasAggie2005]

My posts said the same thing...I changed the wording to keep it civil.

I never said you were a USC fan nor did I call you names. I even defended you when Moses spewed his hate.

Then why get upset with me for calling them rude comments if you had to change them to keep it civil?

Anyhow, it looks like this argument's run it's course. Back on topic.

EDIT: I never said I wouldn't continue arguing, just that it was a pointless topic to argue about. When I'm right I'll argue until I'm blue in the face even if it's an irrelevant argument.

[samikeyp]

Then why get upset with me for calling them rude comments if you had to change them to keep it civil?

I was never upset.

But you are right...back to topic.

[MosesGuthrie]

Isn't that sweet...the fags are making up.

So Faggie2005...what is your excuse going to be when UT beats your ass bloody....assuming you have the nuts to show your face.

[TexasAggie2005]

Jeez...what a bunch of pussies. I hate when women fight. I would root for the Ags..if they were good enough to make a bowl game. Too bad they suck ass. Its ok though...like I said....when VY and the Horns rape the Ags....Faggie fans will scatter or make excuses.

I don't know many Aggies that think we're going to beat Texas this year. And I'll root for Texas when pigs fly.

[samikeyp]

dude Moses....you just need to go away.

[MosesGuthrie]

Fuck you pussy. I ain't goin nowhere


You didn't answer my question, Faggie. What will your excuse be and will you be a man and show up when you lose.

[samikeyp]

You give UT fans a bad name jerkoff.

Ok big man...let me ask you something...if UT blows it...will YOU be a man and admit it or will you run like a little girl?

[TexasAggie2005]

Fuck you pussy. I ain't goin nowhere


You didn't answer my question, Faggie. What will your excuse be and will you be a man and show up when you lose.

Of course I answered your question. Do you know how to read? I've already said I expect Texas to win, so why would I be making excuses? Texas has a better football team, end of discussion.

[samikeyp]

I guess Hooked on Phonics didn't work for Moses.

[Marcus Bryant]

Fuck that.....I hate the fucking Aggie...bunch of goddamn mindless Hitler youth. Watch, when Texas beats the holy fuck out of the Faggies...he will either disappear or make excuses.

:lol

Damn, you are one stupid motherfucker.

[Jimcs50]

The fans look even better.

http://media1.break.com/content/asuhotties.jpg

:smokin

[samikeyp]

and that is why Jim rules. :lol

[Mr Dio]

"Faggies"

*sniff* *sniff*
I smell Dio. :lol


I post under 1 name & 1 name only.

[bull62400]

usc blows cock. no self-respecting nd fan would ever compliment usc

I didnt say I liked USC, or that I root for them. I only said I Respect them. Ur a Spurs fan, of course u hate the Lakers, but u did respect them as a contender in the NBA. I know I did.

[KewlKat00]

The fans look even better.

those are actually asu fans... but i am pretty sure you could find usc fans like that if you looked hard enough.

[FrostKing]

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1483/1600/Billboard.jpg



Which billboard do you agree with?