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ducks
04-25-2020, 06:28 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-nba-facilities-begin-224830855.html

BacktoBasics
04-25-2020, 06:52 PM
What? No spam. You’re slipping.

GAustex
04-25-2020, 09:25 PM
I wonder if anyone on this team really wants to get back at it. Maybe Murray.

Degoat
04-25-2020, 09:35 PM
It will be a bummer if the season resumes, and we win a couple of games that worsens are potential draft pick lol

slick'81
04-25-2020, 10:50 PM
Screw 11th! We making the playoffs baby! Are players going to mask up during play?

tbdog
04-26-2020, 07:16 AM
Dreadful decision if this goes ahead. There is a massive * on this season and people are still dying in American alone by the hundres per day to this virus.

Dex
04-26-2020, 09:49 AM
Only for individual workouts, but still seems premature to me.

Guys going to work out are going to be sweating and breathing all over everything. What are they gonna do, sterilize the gym between every session?

exstatic
04-26-2020, 04:30 PM
Dreadful decision if this goes ahead. There is a massive * on this season and people are still dying in American alone by the hundres per day to this virus.

Thousands. We’re almost to the point of a 9/11 every day, and that’s only officially counting hospital deaths. If they restart the season, they’ll just have to stop it again when players start contracting it. If you do, it’s considered standard procedure to quarantine until two weeks AFTER symptoms stop, so you’ll miss 3-4 weeks.

baseline bum
04-26-2020, 04:48 PM
Dreadful decision if this goes ahead. There is a massive * on this season and people are still dying in American alone by the hundres per day to this virus.

There is not going to be a season. Not a chance in hell. The players and owners desperately want one but you're going to do what three weeks of training camp, a couple of weeks of regular season, and then the playoffs and no one in the league is going to get COVID in that time? I've got a better chance of fucking Scarlett Johansson.

baseline bum
04-26-2020, 04:51 PM
Thousands. We’re almost to the point of a 9/11 every day, and that’s only officially counting hospital deaths. If they restart the season, they’ll just have to stop it again when players start contracting it. If you do, it’s considered standard procedure to quarantine until two weeks AFTER symptoms stop, so you’ll miss 3-4 weeks.

And yet we're opening the economy and nearly everything in it in a few days since red states and Trump are sick of paying unemployment. And Trump doesn't want to throw another crumb to the people since they don't need it to pass another corporate bailout. Mnuchin can just give another $450 billion of low interest loans to them nine more times as a condition of the original bailout bill.

Dirks_Finale
04-26-2020, 05:27 PM
There is not going to be a season. Not a chance in hell. The players and owners desperately want one but you're going to do what three weeks of training camp, a couple of weeks of regular season, and then the playoffs and no one in the league is going to get COVID in that time? I've got a better chance of fucking Scarlett Johansson.


They will just replace COVID victims with G league guys if they have to. Cash is king. Will be stunned if they dont finish it off.

exstatic
04-26-2020, 06:01 PM
They will just replace COVID victims with G league guys if they have to. Cash is king. Will be stunned if they dont finish it off.

Yeah, Dalton Hommes would be a good sub for LeBron or KD. :rolleyes

baseline bum
04-26-2020, 06:08 PM
They will just replace COVID victims with G league guys if they have to. Cash is king. Will be stunned if they dont finish it off.

One guy on the team gets it and that whole team quarantines for two weeks. Every team they played quarantines for two weeks. Every ref to call their games quarantines for two weeks. Unless you want to move the entire NBA to Greenland it's not happening.

Dirks_Finale
04-26-2020, 06:33 PM
You are being facetious, but I've actually heard serious chatter suggesting something like this. (South Korea)


Unless you want to move the entire NBA to Greenland it's not happening.

ChumpDumper
04-26-2020, 06:56 PM
One guy on the team gets it and that whole team quarantines for two weeks. Every team they played quarantines for two weeks. Every ref to call their games quarantines for two weeks. Unless you want to move the entire NBA to Greenland it's not happening.The only thing I can think could work is quarantining EVERYONE involved (team and travelling staff, NBA officials and staff, refs, onsite media, hospitality staff, some non-NBA guys for a replacement pool) for a full month, starting a training camp halfway in while testing the shit out of everyone along the way. Then play a tournament involving every team without even pretending it's a regular championship. Call it the Tribute Cup or some bullshit. Do the whole thing in Disney World or some complex in a cleaner locale and separate them by a virtual airlock from the world for the months it will take.

It's probably going to be way more restrictive than the players are gonna want. Then don't do it.

exstatic
04-26-2020, 06:58 PM
You are being facetious, but I've actually heard serious chatter suggesting something like this. (South Korea)

:lol. The LAST fucking thing S Korea would do would be to admit planes upon planes of Americans into their relatively under control covid19 minimal country.

exstatic
04-26-2020, 07:12 PM
The only thing I can think could work is quarantining EVERYONE involved (team and travelling staff, NBA officials and staff, refs, onsite media, hospitality staff, some non-NBA guys for a replacement pool) for a full month, starting a training camp halfway in while testing the shit out of everyone along the way. Then play a tournament involving every team without even pretending it's a regular championship. Call it the Tribute Cup or some bullshit. Do the whole thing in Disney World or some complex in a cleaner locale and separate them by a virtual airlock from the world for the months it will take.

It's probably going to be way more restrictive than the players are gonna want. Then don't do it.

Someone has to prepare and serve them food, clean their rooms, handle the luggage. This beast lives on paper and plastic for up to 72 hours. There’s just not a way to keep a group of people this large clean that long, not even if they go with a single elimination tournament.

ChumpDumper
04-26-2020, 07:20 PM
Someone has to prepare and serve them food, clean their rooms, handle the luggage. This beast lives on paper and plastic for up to 72 hours. There’s just not a way to keep a group of people this large clean that long, not even if they go with a single elimination tournament.I included hospitality staff. They'd all have to be part of the moonshot. Could only be done if public health dudes designed it. I am only a rube with a napkin and a pen.

Seventyniner
04-26-2020, 08:07 PM
The only thing I can think could work is quarantining EVERYONE involved (team and travelling staff, NBA officials and staff, refs, onsite media, hospitality staff, some non-NBA guys for a replacement pool) for a full month, starting a training camp halfway in while testing the shit out of everyone along the way. Then play a tournament involving every team without even pretending it's a regular championship. Call it the Tribute Cup or some bullshit. Do the whole thing in Disney World or some complex in a cleaner locale and separate them by a virtual airlock from the world for the months it will take.

It's probably going to be way more restrictive than the players are gonna want. Then don't do it.

Pay the players enough and they will do it.

I can't see it bringing in enough money to make that happen, though.

ChumpDumper
04-26-2020, 08:16 PM
Pay the players enough and they will do it.

I can't see it bringing in enough money to make that happen, though.Networks are dying for new programming and I imagine there is pent-up demand for live sports. I'm gonna see if I can find how Taiwan baseball broadcasts are doing with robot audiences.

slick'81
04-26-2020, 08:18 PM
I sure as hell dont give a shit about watching basketball in an empty gym. I cant think of a more easy way to spread this then by playing basketball. Theres going to be alotta ball wiping

Play Boban
04-26-2020, 08:35 PM
Liberate the nba!

Dex
04-27-2020, 12:22 PM
I sure as hell dont give a shit about watching basketball in an empty gym. I cant think of a more easy way to spread this then by playing basketball. Theres going to be alotta ball wiping

Seriously. Let's put 30 guys in close contact, let them breathe and sweat all over each other, and let them all touch the same ball over the course of 2 hours. And that's not even factoring in staff, refs, crews, etc...

Then let's do it on a night-by-night basis with 16-30 teams.

How can that go wrong? :rolleyes

It's more likely that next season gets postponed than this season actually finishes.

baseline bum
04-27-2020, 12:48 PM
Seriously. Let's put 30 guys in close contact, let them breathe and sweat all over each other, and let them all touch the same ball over the course of 2 hours. And that's not even factoring in staff, refs, crews, etc...

Then let's do it on a night-by-night basis with 16-30 teams.

How can that go wrong? :rolleyes

It's more likely that next season gets postponed than this season actually finishes.

I think it's much more likely the next season gets cancelled than this one not being cancelled.

lefty
04-27-2020, 01:31 PM
Silverberg decided money > health

baseline bum
04-27-2020, 02:18 PM
Silverberg decided money > health

Just like Trumpstein

ace3g
04-27-2020, 02:21 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1254848080496799744

Until there is a vaccine readily available no one should be doing anything due to how contagious this virus is and for the most part people that have it don't always show symptoms of it. #SimpleAsThat (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SimpleAsThat) #SocialDistancing (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SocialDistancing)

exstatic
04-27-2020, 02:42 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1254848080496799744

Until there is a vaccine readily available no one should be doing anything due to how contagious this virus is and for the most part people that have it don't always show symptoms of it. #SimpleAsThat (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SimpleAsThat) #SocialDistancing (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SocialDistancing)

You're most contagious, and are shedding the highest levels of virus, a few days before you even show symptoms.

I think the GOP is fooling themselves to think that people will just go back to normal. Even before the shelter in place decrees, reservations were down 70% on open table. People were already avoiding public places.

Dex
04-27-2020, 04:25 PM
You're most contagious, and are shedding the highest levels of virus, a few days before you even show symptoms.

I think the GOP is fooling themselves to think that people will just go back to normal. Even before the shelter in place decrees, reservations were down 70% on open table. People were already avoiding public places.

Sadly, I know plenty of idiots who were already boo-hooing over shelter-in-place and will be the first in line to sit next to someone in a movie theater because "government can't tell me what to do"

Welcome to wave 2, people.

exstatic
04-27-2020, 04:33 PM
Sadly, I know plenty of idiots who were already boo-hooing over shelter-in-place and will be the first in line to sit next to someone in a movie theater because "government can't tell me what to do"

Welcome to wave 2, people.

I think it will be the 35% of the population that are FOXbots, minus a chunk of their senior viewers who don’t feel suicidal. Even Jim Jones lost cult members from his jungle compound.

Gibbz
04-27-2020, 05:16 PM
This is how desperate the NBA is to get LeGM another ring. :spin

BackHome
04-27-2020, 05:25 PM
I think most people who are healthy and under 40 will be try to get back to a normal life and will be doing why they always did minus big concerts, Raves, Football and Basketball games. To be honest without a vaccine it’s not a matter of you getting it it’s a matter of when your going to get it. It sucks but it is what it is people will put on blinders and have it won’t happen to me thing as to why they not practicing social distances.

baseline bum
04-27-2020, 06:35 PM
I think most people who are healthy and under 40 will be try to get back to a normal life and will be doing why they always did minus big concerts, Raves, Football and Basketball games. To be honest without a vaccine it’s not a matter of you getting it it’s a matter of when your going to get it. It sucks but it is what it is people will put on blinders and have it won’t happen to me thing as to why they not practicing social distances.

You also that SARSCov2 was just media hype. Now going on 57000 Americans dead with no real end in sight.

SAGirl
04-27-2020, 07:05 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-targeting-may-8-to-reopen-facilities-in-select-markets/ar-BB13hzRi?ocid=spartanntp
NBA targetting May 8, but with restrictions.

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 12:03 AM
It will be a bummer if the season resumes, and we win a couple of games that worsens are potential draft pick lol

Omg please don't, NBA. As much as we're now adjusting to Corona and masks and shit, the last thing we need to see is Forbes guarding Russell Westbrook

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 12:04 AM
This is how desperate the NBA is to get LeGM another ring. :spin

*

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 12:06 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1254848080496799744

Until there is a vaccine readily available no one should be doing anything due to how contagious this virus is and for the most part people that have it don't always show symptoms of it. #SimpleAsThat (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SimpleAsThat) #SocialDistancing (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SocialDistancing)

What if we get good testing and contact tracing (combined obv with low infection/hospitalization rates). Can sports resume then

slick'81
04-28-2020, 12:16 AM
What if we get good testing and contact tracing (combined obv with low infection/hospitalization rates). Can sports resume then


When the f will that b

Degoat
04-28-2020, 12:16 AM
It’s unfair to the teams that were on the border of making the playoffs but the NBA season should just resume and do the playoffs only, all the other teams season should be over until next season.

timtonymanu
04-28-2020, 12:54 AM
Pretty obvious that this is not gonna end well.

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 01:04 AM
When the f will that b

Call me optimistic. I think 2 months for all of it.

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 01:06 AM
Pretty obvious that this is not gonna end well.

I think it will only be practice facilities in non hotbed states/cities and with very limited staff, with generous amounts of Ppe and cleaning. It’s just practice gyms it’s not 5v5

spurs50_
04-28-2020, 06:49 AM
Scratch this season so we can hopefully start next season on time.

baseline bum
04-28-2020, 08:16 AM
Scratch this season so we can hopefully start next season on time.

That's probably not happening either. The absolute absolute best case scenario is the Oxford vaccine is successful and first rolls out in September since it has supposedly already been shown to be safe for humans. But think how long it's going to take to make and administer a few billion doses. They're talking about having millions of doses by September, not billions. I mean it's a really promising candidate since I read it has stopped infection in macaques exposed to high levels of SARSCov2 for almost a month but we're still going to be dealing with this virus for a good chunk of time. And if this one fails our next best case is probably next March or April for a vaccine.

baseline bum
04-28-2020, 08:19 AM
Call me optimistic. I think 2 months for all of it.

Only happening if heat pretty much pauses this virus. Which doesn't look all that likely given the way it has absolutely raped Ecuador.

Trainwreck2100
04-28-2020, 08:25 AM
Even if they do their best to isolate the players, the bitches will still get in.

Dex
04-28-2020, 08:54 AM
What if we get good testing and contact tracing (combined obv with low infection/hospitalization rates). Can sports resume then

What are they going to do, test people before and after every game? Seems like a good way to be blowing through like 50 tests per team per game.

baseline bum
04-28-2020, 09:13 AM
When the f will that b

Never. If we were going to do it we'd keep the lockdown in effect at least another month and hope that was enough to kill off community transmission with aggressive contact tracing. We're probably just going to rebound and everything will look fine for the first couple of weeks since exponential growth moves at a snail's pace early on. And then it'll probably blow up again.

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04-28-2020, 09:20 AM
The only thing I can think could work is quarantining EVERYONE involved (team and travelling staff, NBA officials and staff, refs, onsite media, hospitality staff, some non-NBA guys for a replacement pool) for a full month, starting a training camp halfway in while testing the shit out of everyone along the way. Then play a tournament involving every team without even pretending it's a regular championship. Call it the Tribute Cup or some bullshit. Do the whole thing in Disney World or some complex in a cleaner locale and separate them by a virtual airlock from the world for the months it will take.

It's probably going to be way more restrictive than the players are gonna want. Then don't do it.

At what point do you say fuck it? The summer leagues and next season are going to be right around the corner. It's just not rational to do even the lockdown scenario because of all the testing that will need to be done, and we aren't near the number of daily tests they say we needin the country (~150K per day vs the 500K - 750K tests we need to be doing per the epidemiological community). Won't go over well if NBA secludes itself away and tests its people.

Then from whatever point they decide to reconvene, the NBA plan calls for a 25 day startup before 1 game is even played. Plus, it's not fair to a team like the Bucks or a player like Giannis that doesn't even have a hoop to shoot around on at home. The whole thing is unfortunate but unfortunate ought not cause a irrational decision.

Dirks_Finale
04-28-2020, 10:06 AM
Ecuador is not blazing hot or anything.

But if this report about it floating around through air pollution is true, then we are all screwed if that promising vaccine doesn't get mass produced very soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJJvtdGgau0&feature=share


Only happening if heat pretty much pauses this virus. Which doesn't look all that likely given the way it has absolutely raped Ecuador.

baseline bum
04-28-2020, 10:11 AM
Ecuador is not blazing hot or anything.

Average high temperature in Guayaquil which seems to be the Ecudorian epicenter is 90F this month and last.

exstatic
04-28-2020, 10:12 AM
Ecuador is not blazing hot or anything.

But if this report about it floating around through air pollution is true, then we are all screwed if that promising vaccine doesn't get mass produced very soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJJvtdGgau0&feature=share

Not that we really needed one, but that is one more, actually two more reasons to

STAY

IN

DOORS

Shelter in place decreases smog and pollution AND keeps you from breathing most of it. One and two.

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 01:47 PM
Ecuador is not blazing hot or anything.

But if this report about it floating around through air pollution is true, then we are all screwed if that promising vaccine doesn't get mass produced very soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJJvtdGgau0&feature=share

2 key things here:

1. if the death rate really is low because it's been around a lot longer than we realize, then it could not be as bad (i.e. not 4%, more like 0.5-1%)
2. Not sure how much viral load it takes to get past the "average" immune system. Highly doubt that concentration of virus is in air pollution and at street level, unless you like to breathe out of a factory smokestack of a building containing 200 highly contagious people coughing upwards at the same time.


Feel free to inhale, despite what the news tells you.

exstatic
04-28-2020, 02:17 PM
2 key things here:

1. if the death rate really is low because it's been around a lot longer than we realize, then it could not be as bad (i.e. not 4%, more like 0.5-1%)
2. Not sure how much viral load it takes to get past the "average" immune system. Highly doubt that concentration of virus is in air pollution and at street level, unless you like to breathe out of a factory smokestack of a building containing 200 highly contagious people coughing upwards at the same time.


Feel free to inhale, despite what the news tells you.

You know what even 1% means, right? The easiest way to do that is simply to move the decimal point two places to the left.

US population: 320,000,000
Deaths @ 1%: 3,200,000

You're also only seeing this as a duality: dead or fine. People are living, but having serious lung damage, neurological issues, and this should scare the millenials: people in their 30s and 40s, and in previously good health are dropping dead from sudden strokes and heart attacks. They're not heavy, and don't have diabetes. There is a coagulopathy (clotting) component that manifests with some that causes this.

YGWHI
04-28-2020, 02:35 PM
Only for individual workouts, but still seems premature to me.

Guys going to work out are going to be sweating and breathing all over everything. What are they gonna do, sterilize the gym between every session?

They should. Some companies are buying ozone generators and UV lights to sterilize offices. With those lights it takes just a few minutes to clean everything but who knows if it really works or not against the virus.

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 03:51 PM
You know what even 1% means, right? The easiest way to do that is simply to move the decimal point two places to the left.

US population: 320,000,000
Deaths @ 1%: 3,200,000

You're also only seeing this as a duality: dead or fine. People are living, but having serious lung damage, neurological issues, and this should scare the millenials: people in their 30s and 40s, and in previously good health are dropping dead from sudden strokes and heart attacks. They're not heavy, and don't have diabetes. There is a coagulopathy (clotting) component that manifests with some that causes this.

you're making a basic error, extrapolating to an entire population. That assumes the virus sickens everyone. Even with much more contagious diseases (smallpox, etc) it didnt get close. 100% population spread has never happened in the history of mankind. And with most people understanding this virus better, there's no way it gets even close to 50% spread. Even many of the idiots protesting stay at home orders pictured in Michigan were wearing PPE.

phxspurfan
04-28-2020, 03:52 PM
They should. Some companies are buying ozone generators and UV lights to sterilize offices. With those lights it takes just a few minutes to clean everything but who knows if it really works or not against the virus.

UV works against everything my dude. It's ionizing radiation

BackHome
04-28-2020, 05:14 PM
My main concern was to have a surge of patients flood the hospitals and not have a ventilator available or enough Hospital beds I think were OK going forward. I am starting to believe that NO Vaccine will be available in the next few years so unless they know for sure then I don’t have a problem of states opening up slowly and some all the way. From everything I am hearing is that it’s best for the HERD the human population to get it and hopefully develop an immunity to it.

I think the biggest concern now is the “Second Wave” the Virus and the Flu season combined. To me what needs to happen is that all FLU shots need to be free and that school and businesses need to make it mandatory. The states and cities need to make a huge push to get as much as the population vaccinated before Flu season starts. I can’t remember if it was in 2017 or 2018 where almost 85,000 people died in one Flu season.

As far as the virus I think the number is like .5% chance of a healthy person under the age of 40 dying from the virus. As I do not fall in that category I will follow all the recommendations of not catching the virus but I also understand that this virus is so easy to catch I will probably get it. I am trying to hold out long enough hoping they come up with some meds that reduce the percentage of people who have to be put on ventilators Also, have to agree with Exstatic in that people should be more aware of the potential long term damage to ones heart and lungs - I just asked my Dr to put me on Vascepa, medicated type of oil that reduces potential Strokes and Heart Attacks.

Hopefully with the amount of money and brain power going into fighting this virus a Vaccine will be created soon!!!!!

Dirks_Finale
04-28-2020, 05:53 PM
My main concern was to have a surge of patients flood the hospitals and not have a ventilator available or enough Hospital beds I think were OK going forward. I am starting to believe that NO Vaccine will be available in the next few years so unless they know for sure then I don’t have a problem of states opening up slowly and some all the way. From everything I am hearing is that it’s best for the HERD the human population to get it and hopefully develop an immunity to it.

I think the biggest concern now is the “Second Wave” the Virus and the Flu season combined. To me what needs to happen is that all FLU shots need to be free and that school and businesses need to make it mandatory. The states and cities need to make a huge push to get as much as the population vaccinated before Flu season starts. I can’t remember if it was in 2017 or 2018 where almost 85,000 people died in one Flu season.

As far as the virus I think the number is like .5% chance of a healthy person under the age of 40 dying from the virus. As I do not fall in that category I will follow all the recommendations of not catching the virus but I also understand that this virus is so easy to catch I will probably get it. I am trying to hold out long enough hoping they come up with some meds that reduce the percentage of people who have to be put on ventilators Also, have to agree with Exstatic in that people should be more aware of the potential long term damage to ones heart and lungs - I just asked my Dr to put me on Vascepa, medicated type of oil that reduces potential Strokes and Heart Attacks.

Hopefully with the amount of money and brain power going into fighting this virus a Vaccine will be created soon!!!!!


Good idea. Or once a person thinks it's possible they may have it, take a baby aspirin once a day if you are not already on blood thinners.

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04-28-2020, 09:09 PM
My main concern was to have a surge of patients flood the hospitals and not have a ventilator available or enough Hospital beds I think were OK going forward. I am starting to believe that NO Vaccine will be available in the next few years so unless they know for sure then I don’t have a problem of states opening up slowly and some all the way. From everything I am hearing is that it’s best for the HERD the human population to get it and hopefully develop an immunity to it.

I think the biggest concern now is the “Second Wave” the Virus and the Flu season combined. To me what needs to happen is that all FLU shots need to be free and that school and businesses need to make it mandatory. The states and cities need to make a huge push to get as much as the population vaccinated before Flu season starts. I can’t remember if it was in 2017 or 2018 where almost 85,000 people died in one Flu season.

As far as the virus I think the number is like .5% chance of a healthy person under the age of 40 dying from the virus. As I do not fall in that category I will follow all the recommendations of not catching the virus but I also understand that this virus is so easy to catch I will probably get it. I am trying to hold out long enough hoping they come up with some meds that reduce the percentage of people who have to be put on ventilators Also, have to agree with Exstatic in that people should be more aware of the potential long term damage to ones heart and lungs - I just asked my Dr to put me on Vascepa, medicated type of oil that reduces potential Strokes and Heart Attacks.

Hopefully with the amount of money and brain power going into fighting this virus a Vaccine will be created soon!!!!!

You know the flu shot is a best guess of what flu strains that a panel of the world's best epidemiologists *think* might hit the worlds's population 6 months after they decide? It then takes 6 months to produce about 250 million doses of vaccine for those 4 or 5 strains. There are hundreds of strains of flu. To underscore this point, most years are only about 30-40% effective in limiting the active strains. It's been as low as like 12% though.

Even free, universal, mass flu vaccinations won't stop the flu.

Likewise, ultimately, per a Harvard epidemiologist I read, COVID won't be considered to be an unlikely community spread pathogen until 70-80% of the population gets it AND it doesn't re-infect people with mutations. Anecdotally, I know of a case of a woman in Colombia that got the disease, stayed in the hospital for nearly 2 weeks, was released after 2 tests showed no viral load in her system, and then was re-infected by apparently a different strain 2 weeks later. If that's possible with this virus, the world's economic situation is fucked until a potential vaccine limits all strains of it. Nor will sports, or much else, return to normal anytime soon.

In summary, this fall likely represents a major concern with a potential for the regular flu season and COVID potentially still, or again, wreaking havoc depending on its capabilities of mutation.

slick'81
04-28-2020, 09:25 PM
You know the flu shot is a best guess of what flu strains that a panel of the world's best epidemiologists *think* might hit the worlds's population 6 months after they decide? It then takes 6 months to produce about 250 million doses of vaccine for those 4 or 5 strains. There are hundreds of strains of flu. To underscore this point, most years are only about 30-40% effective in limiting the active strains. It's been as low as like 12% though.

Even free, universal, mass flu vaccinations won't stop the flu.

Likewise, ultimately, per a Harvard epidemiologist I read, COVID won't be considered to be an unlikely community spread pathogen until 70-80% of the population gets it AND it doesn't re-infect people with mutations. Anecdotally, I know of a case of a woman in Colombia that got the disease, stayed in the hospital for nearly 2 weeks, was released after 2 tests showed no viral load in her system, and then was re-infected by apparently a different strain 2 weeks later. If that's possible with this virus, the world's economic situation is fucked until a potential vaccine limits all strains of it. Nor will sports, or much else, return to normal anytime soon.

In summary, this fall likely represents a major concern with a potential for the regular flu season and COVID potentially still, or again, wreaking havoc depending on its capabilities of mutation.


Yea sports is in deep shit for the foreseeable future

exstatic
04-28-2020, 10:27 PM
you're making a basic error, extrapolating to an entire population. That assumes the virus sickens everyone. Even with much more contagious diseases (smallpox, etc) it didnt get close. 100% population spread has never happened in the history of mankind. And with most people understanding this virus better, there's no way it gets even close to 50% spread. Even many of the idiots protesting stay at home orders pictured in Michigan were wearing PPE.
different models have herd immunity kicking in between 40 and 70%. Lets be optimistic and say 40%. That’s still 1,280,000 deaths at the 1% rate. That’s two optimistic assumptions piled in top of each other: the mortality rate, and the low threshold for herd immunity, and it’s still over a million and a quarter deaths.

I don’t know what pictures you were looking at, but the one long shot down one of the Avenues in Lansing showed two protesters with masks on. Two.

slick'81
04-28-2020, 10:29 PM
Likewise, ultimately, per a Harvard epidemiologist I read, COVID won't be considered to be an unlikely community spread pathogen until 70-80% of the population gets it AND it doesn't re-infect people with mutations. Anecdotally, I know of a case of a woman in Colombia that got the disease, stayed in the hospital for nearly 2 weeks, was released after 2 tests showed no viral load in her system, and then was re-infected by apparently a different strain 2 weeks later. If that's possible with this virus, the world's economic situation is fucked until a potential vaccine limits all strains of it. Nor will sports, or much else, return to normal anytime soon.


makes you wonder wtf this strain actually came from....regular viruses dont act like that

slick'81
04-29-2020, 12:41 AM
Steve Kerr said on Tuesday that it feels like the Warriors' season is over and he doesn't think the team will play again until next season.
“We’re staying in touch with guys, but everyone is just sort of assuming that this is kind of it,” he said in a Zoom call. "We're not going to be involved much anymore." Stephen Curry was quoted earlier on Tuesday saying that "it would suck" to play games with no fans in the stands and it sounds like he may not have to worry about it. Major League Baseball is talking about starting their season in late June and while Kerr's comments in no way signal the end of the NBA season, Kerr's gut feeling is probably as strong as anyone's.

SOURCE: Connor Letourneau on Twitter (https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1255247437251465216)
Apr 28, 2020, 5:35 PM ET

Play Boban
04-29-2020, 12:54 PM
Not that we really needed one, but that is one more, actually two more reasons to

STAY

IN

DOORS

Shelter in place decreases smog and pollution AND keeps you from breathing most of it. One and two.
Enjoy heart attack from being obese from no activity tbh get outside or death follows per par fwiw

Play Boban
04-29-2020, 12:55 PM
Steve Kerr said on Tuesday that it feels like the Warriors' season is over and he doesn't think the team will play again until next season.


“We’re staying in touch with guys, but everyone is just sort of assuming that this is kind of it,” he said in a Zoom call. "We're not going to be involved much anymore." Stephen Curry was quoted earlier on Tuesday saying that "it would suck" to play games with no fans in the stands and it sounds like he may not have to worry about it. Major League Baseball is talking about starting their season in late June and while Kerr's comments in no way signal the end of the NBA season, Kerr's gut feeling is probably as strong as anyone's.

SOURCE: Connor Letourneau on Twitter (https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1255247437251465216)
Apr 28, 2020, 5:35 PM ET


He is right their season has been over since kd left tbh