Last Of Us 2 SPOILERS Discussion

[monosylab1k]

Let this be the thread to discuss the spoilers and post the top notch memes going around right now :lol


I can accept the Joel death scene if there’s more to it than “tranny with a golf club” and hopefully there is. In fact, you’d be an idiot to think Joel wouldn’t die at some point in the game. But it obviously has to be done properly, and if Cuckmann really thinks fans are ever going to accept the people spitting on Joel’s dead body as “the good guys” then he’s just one of the biggest morons in any storytelling medium.

Joel’s death could have been a big moment if it pushes Ellie to go apeshit and kill everything in her path, including Abby. But who the fuck will want to play as Abby from that point? Who the fuck is gonna mash the square button to choke out Ellie? Just makes no fucking sense. That’s why I really think the leaks are misleading and/or totally wrong in parts, because nobody in their right mind would think this is a good idea.

And god help us all if the tranny thing is for real :lol

There’s a salvageable, good story in there, but obviously not if it plays out exactly like the leaks say it will. This is one of the dumbest “shitting in your fanbases mouths” moments I’ve ever seen, and this is coming from a guy who defended The Last Jedi.

[Leetonidas]

I've read up on it and I'm not getting the tranny thing. Seems like some bs that neckbeards are running with because Abby is not overly feminine. And in a post apocalypse world in which her parents were murdered I'm not really sure why they would expect her to be some hot babe with highlights and painted nails. The tranny thing is getting way overblown because of Elie being gay, which was basically revealed in the first game.

I don't get the hate it's getting. Because Joel or Ellie dies? Given that the first game had a habit of shitting on any bit of hope I'm not sure why this is unexpected. Players rly thought they were gonna play as Joel and Ellie, save the world and live happily ever after? :lmao

[monosylab1k]

I've read up on it and I'm not getting the tranny thing. Seems like some bs that neckbeards are running with because Abby is not overly feminine. And in a post apocalypse world in which her parents were murdered I'm not really sure why they would expect her to be some hot babe with highlights and painted nails. The tranny thing is getting way overblown because of Elie being gay, which was basically revealed in the first game.

I don't get the hate it's getting. Because Joel or Ellie dies? Given that the first game had a habit of shitting on any bit of hope I'm not sure why this is unexpected. Players rly thought they were gonna play as Joel and Ellie, save the world and live happily ever after? :lmao

I doubt anybody expected a happy ending, but to expect players to actively hunt down and kill Joel and Ellie is just a big middle finger to fans.

[Reck]

I have massive issues with the plot.

They really are going with the "she was hiding behind some boxes" and that's how she knows it was Joel. :lol

ND went super sadistic mode on Joel. Not only does he get killed but they actually go back to his fucked up body up close and have some douchebag spit on his corpse while Ellie is pinned down and made to watch.

Then you are forced to play the second half of the game as the buffed up she-man and absolutely wreck Ellie, bash her girlfriend's head in and kill the asian guy and she gets to live at the end anyways.

That is unimaginable.

I dont give a fuck about Abby's point of view. No amount of time spent with her will make me be ok with what she did. Specially knowing that her father was knowingly sacrificing kids for a cure. That defeats the purpose of feeling sorry for her to begin with.

The way they set up the third game is as pathetic as Ellie the villian. ffs

[Xevious]

Maybe there's information out there that I'm not familiar with (I hadn't heard about Abby's crew spitting on Joel's corpse for example), but I think there are some unfounded rumors floating around out there. Remember that there were other "leaks" a few weeks ago that have mostly been debunked. Unless it happens in the actual videos, or is confirmed by the level titles somehow, I'm taking it with a grain of salt.

We know for sure that Joel gets beat to shit with a golf club, we also know that Jesse dies at some point per Dina's dialogue. Ellie and Dina get fucked up pretty bad by Abby presumably at the climax, but Abby leaves the room after Lev calms her down. Ellie was still alive at that point though, Dina was unconscious but probably alive as well. For that reason, I'm assuming Ellie survives the game. A lot of the other stuff may still be true (Abby being the daughter of the surgeon), but I'm thinking some details are off.

It's obvious that ND is going for the "there are two sides to every story" angle. Joel admittedly robbed from and killed innocent people after the outbreak began. He went on a rampage at the end of the first game for his own selfish reasons, then lied about it to the one person he cared about. He isn't exactly a good guy. So they're seeing if it's possible to make the player witness Joel's brutal murder, and have you sympathise with his murderer later in the game. I personally don't feel like it'll work, especially if Ellie does die also, but it's a bold move. There are probably plenty of details that we're missing.

[Reck]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gdaaif/new_tlou_2_plot_leaks_most_of_what_youve_heard_is/

I dont know how legit this is but it's much more fleshed out in details.

Still dont think it was the right direction but it's somewhat less terrible. AGAIN, if this is legit.

[monosylab1k]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/comments/gdaaif/new_tlou_2_plot_leaks_most_of_what_youve_heard_is/

I dont know how legit this is but it's much more fleshed out in details.

Still dont think it was the right direction but it's somewhat less terrible. AGAIN, if this is legit.

Definitely a lot better, let’s hope he’s right.

People need to get over “:cry muh Joel :cry” as of course he was going to die. The unpalatable part of all this was spending half the game hunting down Ellie. If Joel dies, it has to mean something, and the original leaks just shit on Joel with nothing redeeming about it.

[Xevious]

It's better, but I still don't think they're 100% accurate.

[Joseph Kony]

Maybe there's information out there that I'm not familiar with (I hadn't heard about Abby's crew spitting on Joel's corpse for example), but I think there are some unfounded rumors floating around out there. Remember that there were other "leaks" a few weeks ago that have mostly been debunked. Unless it happens in the actual videos, or is confirmed by the level titles somehow, I'm taking it with a grain of salt.

We know for sure that Joel gets beat to shit with a golf club, we also know that Jesse dies at some point per Dina's dialogue. Ellie and Dina get fucked up pretty bad by Abby presumably at the climax, but Abby leaves the room after Lev calms her down. Ellie was still alive at that point though, Dina was unconscious but probably alive as well. For that reason, I'm assuming Ellie survives the game. A lot of the other stuff may still be true (Abby being the daughter of the surgeon), but I'm thinking some details are off.

It's obvious that ND is going for the "there are two sides to every story" angle. Joel admittedly robbed from and killed innocent people after the outbreak began. He went on a rampage at the end of the first game for his own selfish reasons, then lied about it to the one person he cared about. He isn't exactly a good guy. So they're seeing if it's possible to make the player witness Joel's brutal murder, and have you sympathise with his murderer later in the game. I personally don't feel like it'll work, especially if Ellie does die also, but it's a bold move. There are probably plenty of details that we're missing.

this is my feeling as well pretty much. and you're right about Joel. of course fans love him but the truth is he was kind of a piece of shit :lol and really at the end of the game he proved how selfish he was by going against Ellie's wishes and lying about it. not to say i didn't agree with his choice, but it seemed glaringly obvious that when a second game was made, joel would have to atone and be killed at some point in it

[Xevious]

this is my feeling as well pretty much. and you're right about Joel. of course fans love him but the truth is he was kind of a piece of shit :lol and really at the end of the game he proved how selfish he was by going against Ellie's wishes and lying about it. not to say i didn't agree with his choice, but it seemed glaringly obvious that when a second game was made, joel would have to atone and be killed at some point in it
As a dad, it's easy to understand Joel's actions. But with everybody he wronged over the years, his time was definitely coming. The one thing I really wanted from the sequel (narrative-wise), was for Ellie to find out the truth and to see what that means for her. Still not sure if that'll happen going by the leaks.

[monosylab1k]

https://twitter.com/ac2395876544/status/1258045631886757890?s=21

This is just to confirm, yes they spit on Joel’s body. Not something I disagree with if done right, but pulling a “no, Joel and Ellie are the real bad guys!” is a retarded twist. The most recent leaks and the new trailer seem to contradict the original leaks in that regard, so let’s hope it goes that way.

[gambit1990]

wouldn't be surprised if abby killed joel and then ellie kills abby.

[ElNono]

Heard they all die of COVID at the end... sounds legit, IMO, TBH, FWIW

[David Hogg]

:lmao the new spoilers show that Abby identifies Joel as the guy who killed her father because......he said his name is Joel...

So is she the Terminator just killing everybody named Joel and hoping she eventually finds the one? Just stupid.

[Reck]

Last 15 minute ending:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YAYBlaWoX5cHHAmsZbu_wd-2Wwf55wNx/view

:lmao

https://www.pngitem.com/pimgs/m/598-5981259_troll-angry-crying-meme-depressed-memezasf-trendy-crying.png

[Reck]

*Starts revenge quest
*Kills everyone in her path terminator style
*Is moments away from her end goal
*Gets Joel Flashback telling her murder is BAD
*Let's Abby go
*Finds everyone else dead or maimed by Abby after letting her go


*fades to black

:lol

[Xevious]

Last 15 minute ending:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YAYBlaWoX5cHHAmsZbu_wd-2Wwf55wNx/view

:lmao

https://www.pngitem.com/pimgs/m/598-5981259_troll-angry-crying-meme-depressed-memezasf-trendy-crying.png
I have no issue with anything in that video. Obviously there's some stuff missing, and there seems to be a huge time gap between Seattle and this, but it's different from any of the other supposed leaked endings.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1273502231950581760?s=19

yikes count me out on this one

[Texas_Ranger]

so is abby trans or not? didnt they say she was a girl... i am confused.

[David Hogg]

Abby is not trans. The trans character is Lev. Which makes sense because I was under the impression that Lev was a girl until the latest leaks called Lev “he”.

https://press-start.com.au/features/2020/06/18/we-chatted-to-naughty-dog-about-the-last-of-us-part-ii-spoilers-leaks-themes-and-brutality/


I’d love for you to talk me through how Lev came about, a rare representation for trans people in the medium. His coming to terms with who he is, in the face of literal death, is bound to resonate with people.

[Reck]

Started watching a playthrough of it on Youtube.

:wow Game is brutal from the get go. Took less than 2 hours for Joel to meet golf club and it's GTA on steroids from there.

[ElNono]

should be getting my copy soon... better wrap up this AC Origins DLC

[Leetonidas]

Started watching a playthrough of it on Youtube.

:wow Game is brutal from the get go. Took less than 2 hours for Joel to meet golf club and it's GTA on steroids from there.

i was hoping they'd get him in the opening scene like his daughter in the first game :lol that'd fuck me up. my collectors edition will be here tomorrow, ima play the fuck out of this after work

[redzero]

The tranny's sex scene blew up on 4Chan. Thank you, Druckmann.

[Texas_Ranger]

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[David Hogg]

I really hope this was taken out of context :lol

https://twitter.com/wwarrior_1/status/1273687342230802432?s=20

[David Hogg]

The full plot details I read make it seem not nearly as bad as the original leaks. Doesn’t seem like you play half the game from Abby’s perspective hunting down Ellie, and a lot of the details were flat out wrong.

Still seems like a ton of misfires. Killing Joel is fine, even essential, but they do it in the dumbest way. Also Ellie not finishing off Abby, and rendering the entire game pointless, besides some “murder is wrong” finger wagging at the players, just isn’t how to do it.

Now it seems like it’s just a heavy handed mess more than a complete disaster.

[gambit1990]

did abby end up being trans?

[Xevious]

did abby end up being trans?
She's just a chick. There is a trans character, but it isn't her.

[Leetonidas]

Bout to fire this up in a sec. I'll post my thoughts later on after I get a few hrs in

[redzero]

https://i.redd.it/6p88abpbxq551.jpg

Druckmann had his self-insert f.uck a tranny. :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Bout to fire this up in a sec. I'll post my thoughts later on after I get a few hrs in

if you have a brain you'll be mad

[Reck]

https://i.redd.it/6p88abpbxq551.jpg

Druckmann had his self-insert f.uck a tranny. :lol

Lol wtf. This dude has problems.

[Leetonidas]

if you have a brain you'll be mad

i dont get mad over silly things tbh. and i already know joel is going to die n get spit on

[ElNono]

lol @ the user reviews on Metacritic

just got my copy... I'll check it out after I'm done with the AC DLC

[Xevious]

lol @ the user reviews on Metacritic
Very few of those people actually played the game I'd bet. Same losers that down voted every youtube video having to do with the game.

[Leetonidas]

i can definitely tell why someone who is triggered by gays would not like this game right away :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

i dont get mad over silly things tbh. and i already know joel is going to die n get spit on

I'm talking about GOT season 8 level character development

[Reck]

Very few of those people actually played the game I'd bet. Same losers that down voted every youtube video having to do with the game.

I'm sure most right now are bs reviews but it does kind of offsets some of the "experts" reviews that fawn over this. This game is not a 10. lol

[Reck]

I'm talking about GOT season 8 level character development

I dont mind the gay thing.

Not even factoring in the overall story. Just the in game dialogue and quips from these characters. Holy shit, I've been losing some brain cells for sure watching this. Dina makes for an insufferable road trip partner.

[Leetonidas]

Just saw it. jesus man. that was a pretty intense series of events. in a way i'm kinda mad this leaked because the shock factor would have been insane. RIP Joel :cry

[ElNono]

Very few of those people actually played the game I'd bet. Same losers that down voted every youtube video having to do with the game.

half of them are probably triggered alt-right snowflakes like chris, tbh

[Xevious]

I'm sure most right now are bs reviews but it does kind of offsets some of the "experts" reviews that fawn over this. This game is not a 10. lol
No doubt. But considering metacritic has something like 9500 user reviews on TLOU for the entire life of the game, and the second one already has like 36000 reviews being out only two days, it's hard to take anybody seriously.

[Reck]

No doubt. But considering metacritic has something like 9500 user reviews on TLOU for the entire life of the game, and the second one already has like 36000 reviews being out only two days, it's hard to take anybody seriously.

Yeah that scoring system is messed up. You dont know who to trust.

I actually like Opencritic way more. Seems more balanced to me. In metacritic you have one side that doesn't really represent the majority of gamers but then you have the dumb dumbs on the other side doing 0/10 review bombings that really shouldn't even be allowed in.

[Leetonidas]

Meh in the end if you like the game that's all that matters. Quantum break has a shit score on meta critic but I loved that game. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder tbh.

[David Hogg]

The ending would have been damn near perfect, and a ton of peoples issues with the game wouldn’t be nearly as strong, if Ellie would have just held Abby under the water for like 10 more seconds :lol How did they fuck it up that badly?

[Texas_Ranger]

after 10 hours of playing, its pretty much meeh... Story just doesnt feel that good. Joel is kinda stupid, i mean he was in this game. They could have killed him in a much better way, but i guess its the ''subvert the expectations'' time. I give zero fucks about Abby, as she's not interesting at all, at least for now. Other characters like Dina and Jesse are just there. Tommy was ok, but not there for too long. Gameplay is almost the same as in the first game, with some improvement, but still nothing special. I beat Doom Eternal in one sitting and with this game i am getting bored every hour and i just have to take breaks to do something fun. So yea, i guess I'll try and finish it by the end of the week. So far, i would say i am not happy with this game and i am also not alt-right or have problems with gays. My metacritic score is closer to the users than to a 9 or a 10 so far.

[ElNono]

tbh, not sure what reviewers were complaining about this "brutal violence that gives you feels" and shit... baddies come at you with guns, bows, shotguns, and fire on you on the spot, not really having second thoughts after slitting the mofo's throats...

The stealth aspect is pretty well done (if you like to play like that, which I do), but it's most definitely a very slow paced game.

[Texas_Ranger]

I am like 16-18h in, just met Yara and Lev... Damn is that pregnant woman stupid as fuck. I feel nothing for anyone in Abby's camp and especially not Abby. There's also so much backtracking with the flashbacks...it just doesnt do it for me. I know this is like a 25h game, so i hope the final third makes me enjoy this game...

and yea, stealth is pretty much the best thing for me right now.

[Leetonidas]

tbh, not sure what reviewers were complaining about this "brutal violence that gives you feels" and shit... baddies come at you with guns, bows, shotguns, and fire on you on the spot, not really having second thoughts after slitting the mofo's throats...

The stealth aspect is pretty well done (if you like to play like that, which I do), but it's most definitely a very slow paced game.

I fucking hate the dogs they added to this game :lol I do like the touch they added were certain enemies will surrender or beg for their life. Can you let them go? I've murked every one of them so far lol

[ElNono]

I am like 16-18h in, just met Yara and Lev... Damn is that pregnant woman stupid as fuck. I feel nothing for anyone in Abby's camp and especially not Abby. There's also so much backtracking with the flashbacks...it just doesnt do it for me. I know this is like a 25h game, so i hope the final third makes me enjoy this game...

and yea, stealth is pretty much the best thing for me right now.

Yup, I just got switched to Abby, and I'm just doing the chores itching to get switched back to Ellie and go Rambo on Seattle.


I fucking hate the dogs they added to this game :lol I do like the touch they added were certain enemies will surrender or beg for their life. Can you let them go? I've murked every one of them so far lol

You hate them coz they're good. I honestly haven't had problems with them after the first one, I just kill them first with an arrow or gun + silencer from a prone position, then go from there.

I haven't even been asked yet to let anybody go. I guess I just whack them before they even get a chance to talk. :lol

[Leetonidas]

What difficulty did you start on? I'm playing on surviror since grounded is not available yet and I think that's the issue my resources are more scarce. I usually try to arrow the dogs too but I'm a terrible shot with the bow :lol but usually I only have the stuff to make 1 arrow maaaaybe 2

[ElNono]

What difficulty did you start on? I'm playing on surviror since grounded is not available yet and I think that's the issue my resources are more scarce. I usually try to arrow the dogs too but I'm a terrible shot with the bow :lol but usually I only have the stuff to make 1 arrow maaaaybe 2

whatever the default is... yeah, I really don't have a problem with resources, but since I figured early there's probably little to no replay value here, I try to head into every location and scavenge as much as possible.

[ElNono]

Damn, I thought the game was going to end when you got back in the farm with the baby n' stuff... I was maaaaaad, I thought that was it. But it keeps going...

[Texas_Ranger]

finished after like 23 or 24h. Yea, the last third didn't get better for me, perhaps it just gor worse, especially the ending. It was like watching the Bride from Kill Bill killing everyone and at the end not killing Bill. I really loved the first game, not cause of the gameplay, but cause of the story and every single character in that game was interesting. Here, i got nothing from no one. I didn't like anyone from Abby's side, even tho the game really want you to feel bad for her, but it just didn't do it for me. I did think I'd like Ellie, cause she was great in the first part, but here, she's kinda boring, same goes for Dina. Jesse was cool, but he had too little to do, just as Tommy. I'd love to have played as Tommy for a portion of a game and not with Abby for like 10+ hours. Killing Joel at the beginning also didn't help. Now if they killed him at the end and if it was made in a smart way then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but here it was just random. I remember the first trailer and the comments it got. People were thinking Joel would die 4 years ago, so to me this was like Han Solo dying in Force awakens. I expected it and was not surprised at all. Anyhow, the game looks great and the game mechanics are fine, nothing special, but also nothing to bitch about. Unfortunately i don't care for graphics, especially in a story driven game and this is the worts story driven game i have ever played in my 24 years of playing games. It's not the worst game i have played, cause the gameplay is still fine and stealth kills are kinda fun to do, but story just sucks for me. I was thinking that after finishing it i'll try to beat it on grounded, but i have no desire to do so. I'd rather just play the first game, or any other Naughty Dog game. My rating for this would be disappointing. I hope others are having way much fun than i did.

[lefty]

Boring game
Too easy

[ElNono]

Finished it last night too. I had fun playing the game, there's tried and true ND style stuff here. Technically (visuals, mechanics) the game is top shelf. I wouldn't even say the story sucks entirely if I read it on a book from Ellie's or Tommy's perspective, but I had complete disdain for Abby throughout the game and hated having to command her, no matter how hard they tried to make her look like a reasonable, loving person. To the point where when you reach back Ellie and you gotta fight her, I just left out of cover and let her kill me, thinking they should roll out the credits at that point (lmao). Also, yeah, the ending was like empty. I play the first game so long ago, I wasn't really attached to the characters, so I didn't mind Joel getting whacked early, tbh. I can see how people would be disappointed to an extent, considering half the story happens with a character you want to turn the gun on herself and move back to Ellie, tbh.

[David Hogg]

finished after like 23 or 24h. Yea, the last third didn't get better for me, perhaps it just gor worse, especially the ending. It was like watching the Bride from Kill Bill killing everyone and at the end not killing Bill. I really loved the first game, not cause of the gameplay, but cause of the story and every single character in that game was interesting. Here, i got nothing from no one. I didn't like anyone from Abby's side, even tho the game really want you to feel bad for her, but it just didn't do it for me. I did think I'd like Ellie, cause she was great in the first part, but here, she's kinda boring, same goes for Dina. Jesse was cool, but he had too little to do, just as Tommy. I'd love to have played as Tommy for a portion of a game and not with Abby for like 10+ hours. Killing Joel at the beginning also didn't help. Now if they killed him at the end and if it was made in a smart way then I wouldn't have a problem with it, but here it was just random. I remember the first trailer and the comments it got. People were thinking Joel would die 4 years ago, so to me this was like Han Solo dying in Force awakens. I expected it and was not surprised at all. Anyhow, the game looks great and the game mechanics are fine, nothing special, but also nothing to bitch about. Unfortunately i don't care for graphics, especially in a story driven game and this is the worts story driven game i have ever played in my 24 years of playing games. It's not the worst game i have played, cause the gameplay is still fine and stealth kills are kinda fun to do, but story just sucks for me. I was thinking that after finishing it i'll try to beat it on grounded, but i have no desire to do so. I'd rather just play the first game, or any other Naughty Dog game. My rating for this would be disappointing. I hope others are having way much fun than i did.
:lol

“Female characters boring! Male characters good!”

[Texas_Ranger]

:lol

“Female characters boring! Male characters good!”

nah, everyone was boring. Those 2 just didn't have enough screen time. I also liked Ellie more than Joel in the first part, but yea, of course i am sexist cause i think here they arent that interesting. Remember people,you can't say bad things about women, gays and people of color without 2020 retards looking bad at you.

[Xevious]

Finished it last night too. I had fun playing the game, there's tried and true ND style stuff here. Technically (visuals, mechanics) the game is top shelf. I wouldn't even say the story sucks entirely if I read it on a book from Ellie's or Tommy's perspective, but I had complete disdain for Abby throughout the game and hated having to command her, no matter how hard they tried to make her look like a reasonable, loving person. To the point where when you reach back Ellie and you gotta fight her, I just left out of cover and let her kill me, thinking they should roll out the credits at that point (lmao). Also, yeah, the ending was like empty. I play the first game so long ago, I wasn't really attached to the characters, so I didn't mind Joel getting whacked early, tbh. I can see how people would be disappointed to an extent, considering half the story happens with a character you want to turn the gun on herself and move back to Ellie, tbh.
This is what I was worried about. I'm still early in Seattle (haven't had a lot of time to play), but I can already tell Abby is not very likeable regardless of the Joel business. The switching narrative format requires that you actually care about both characters for it to work effectively. It would've made more sense to have Part 2 entirely from Abby's POV with a different storyline perhaps, and then the third game switch between the two. As it is, people are always going to prefer Ellie.

[Reck]

Hope they move away from Ellie in a third installment. Literally story told.

Her and Joel’s story came full circle. Literally. And she passed on revenge so yeah time for a new narrative with different survivors.

[ElNono]

I did like the exploration aspect with Ellie when you get to Seattle... I wish there would've been less flashbacks and perhaps a slightly bigger city to explore. Maybe even taking you to the island sooner and let you explore there.

[ElNono]

Hope they move away from Ellie in a third installment. Literally story told.

I can only say about this that Neil and the team had a long, thoughtful process to even consider doing this game (whether you eventually liked it or not, different matter altogether). It's certainly difficult to follow up on a success like the first game, where you have certain relatively-sacred characters.

Personally, I don't know if I would mind as much some sort of continuation to Ellie's story, but I certainly would hate to have to continue playing as Abby, and I hope they don't go that route. Tommy was too fucked up for any major role. Dina just wasn't very interesting to me.

So really, don't know where that leave us.

[Texas_Ranger]

Hope they move away from Ellie in a third installment. Literally story told.

Her and Joel’s story came full circle. Literally. And she passed on revenge so yeah time for a new narrative with different survivors.

watch them make Abby and Ellie team up. :rollin

[Joseph Kony]

Hope they move away from Ellie in a third installment. Literally story told.

Her and Joel’s story came full circle. Literally. And she passed on revenge so yeah time for a new narrative with different survivors.

They have a lot of potential in the world they've created. tbh i would be really interested in seeing a prequel - maybe something like Joel/Tommy surviving right after the outbreak, or Tommy's time with the fireflies, or even Joel/Tess first meeting and their story. lots of options. ND milked tf out of Uncharted so hopefully we'll get a few more LoU installments

[Xevious]

Holy shit, they did a good job delaying any type of combat with humans. That first fight in the school was pretty intense. The sound effects are really well done.

[Joseph Kony]

that fucking bloater encounter in seattle caught me off guard big time :lol i was so unprepared for det one

[Joseph Kony]

also did Star Wars Battlefront II become good? i played it on PS4 awhile back and thought it was ok, but its on steam now and after a pretty poor reception at release it has some really good reviews. i might have to check that one out again also

[Joseph Kony]

lol im retarded i just realized i posted that in this thread and not the other thread. need to quit smoking so much weed :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

also did Star Wars Battlefront II become good? i played it on PS4 awhile back and thought it was ok, but its on steam now and after a pretty poor reception at release it has some really good reviews. i might have to check that one out again also

it bacame pretty good after 2 years of free updates. I am surprised EA supported the game for this long.

[Xevious]

:lol This shit is pretty impressive.

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[Chris]

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[Leetonidas]

I guess I'm the only person who doesn't totally hate Abby and her storyline? :lol they made that bitch way too buff in the main timeline though. I get they have tons of workout equipment and benches but jesus man. She looks like she can bench 3 plates :lol

[Leetonidas]

Also my main gripe with this game is just the excessive use of flashbacks. I get a couple of them but I've hit at least 6 of them now

[Xevious]

I guess I'm the only person who doesn't totally hate Abby and her storyline? :lol they made that bitch way too buff in the main timeline though. I get they have tons of workout equipment and benches but jesus man. She looks like she can bench 3 plates :lol
I'm still early in Abby day one, but I'm actually surprised that I'm enjoying her storyline. It's hard for me to stay mad at her after seeing her side of the story. If you're pissed at her, then you'd have to be at Ellie also. Joel killed a lot of people. And that's kind of the point. It's all about perspective, there are no 100% good guys and bad guys in this universe (though you could make an argument for David's group). And it makes you think about all the people you slaughter in the game as Ellie, especially after you see their camp as Abby. They all have friends and families too. Though they all shoot you on sight, so it isn't like you have much of a choice. :lol

[Joseph Kony]

I'm still early in Abby day one, but I'm actually surprised that I'm enjoying her storyline. It's hard for me to stay mad at her after seeing her side of the story. If you're pissed at her, then you'd have to be at Ellie also. Joel killed a lot of people. And that's kind of the point. It's all about perspective, there are no 100% good guys and bad guys in this universe (though you could make an argument for David's group). And it makes you think about all the people you slaughter in the game as Ellie, especially after you see their camp as Abby. They all have friends and families too. Though they all shoot you on sight, so it isn't like you have much of a choice. :lol

same. it's not as shitty as people make it seem tbh, just too many incels triggered that she killed Joel. i've been playing it slowly since i can only play after work a couple hours so the shock of his death has faded and taking 18 game hours to get to her story helped

[Reck]

same. it's not as shitty as people make it seem tbh, just too many incels triggered that she killed Joel. i've been playing it slowly since i can only play after work a couple hours so the shock of his death has faded and taking 18 game hours to get to her story helped

Bold claim. And I dont think that's it.

This game has more problems than "it's just Joel."

The majority of people hate not only her but her entire shitty unlikeable crew and the overall story is just trash.

On a technical level this game is 10/10 agreed.
Story 3/10 for efforts

[ElNono]

For me it's just basic videogame stuff... not even good guys vs bad guys, it's my team vs their team. You put me to play the bad guys throughout, I'm cool with that if the game is good.

The issue (IMO) is that the same guys that were blowing my head with a shotgun are suddenly my buddies now, who :cry are good neighbors and walk the dog every morning :cry, and it just doesn't work out for me.

The whole setup was to go to Seattle to do the lord's work on the other team. I leveled up, upgraded guns and ammo, scavenged the shit out of everything, and suddenly I find myself playing the person I went to Seattle for, and was itching to nail to the tree of woe.

It's not even about Joel. Joel was part of the story setup/excuse to go to Seattle for revenge. When I saw the zebra rescue at the start of the Abby sequence I was rolling my eyes. Then came the :cry little children :cry. It all looked forced as fuck to me.

I mean, I was so ready to grab a flamethrower with Ellie, run across that bitch and burn her to pieces in the first 30 mins of the game. That's what a revenge story is, I don't care if she's Mother Theresa.

[Joseph Kony]

tbh i think it was a bold decision, and one that appears to be pretty polarizing. i havent finished it yet but i think the point was that it isnt just a typical revenge story. but to each their own i guess. the first was my second favorite game of all time, this isnt as good but is still a really solid game overall. Not a 10/10 by any means but it's still a 7.5/10 imho. i think people's expectation for this to exceed one of the greatest games ever was too much.

[ElNono]

It's a solid game, and I might actually play the NG+... I don't hate or dislike the game itself, I think the mechanics are actually pretty great. As somebody else said, I would've rather had less flashbacks and more exploration, especially since the pace is slow, so exploring new locations is actually pretty fun.

[Xevious]

tbh i think it was a bold decision, and one that appears to be pretty polarizing. i havent finished it yet but i think the point was that it isnt just a typical revenge story. but to each their own i guess. the first was my second favorite game of all time, this isnt as good but is still a really solid game overall. Not a 10/10 by any means but it's still a 7.5/10 imho. i think people's expectation for this to exceed one of the greatest games ever was too much.
I really can't think of another piece of fiction that asks you to sympathize with both sides of a conflict like this. The execution really is not perfect. Players are always going to side with Ellie because we know her better, her personality is more interesting, and she's a more important character (her immunity). But it's bold move regardless.

[Chris]

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[Leetonidas]

They just broke the record with 4 million sold in 3 days. I'm sure they'll be fine :lol

[ElNono]

They just broke the record with 4 million sold in 3 days. I'm sure they'll be fine :lol

Yeah, sells have been nothing short of phenomenal, not just in the US, but Europe as well. Frankly it wasn't a sure thing, especially after the leaks.

Even more striking, the Last of Us Remaster had seen a considerable spike in sells too. IIRC, it's back in the top 10 sales chart in the UK right now.

[Monostradamus]

They just broke the record with 4 million sold in 3 days. I'm sure they'll be fine :lol Chris is so terrified of teh gays that he’s praying every night for this game to fail.

[Leetonidas]

:lol

i'm thoroughly enjoying it tbh. I finally snagged the limited edition console and headset :tu only thing i'm missing is Ellie's backpack from her edition of the game

[Leetonidas]

also det Yara death :cry right after Lev has to kill his mom and then his sister gets shot up trying to go after him. has to feel like shit :lol

[Reck]

Chris is a faggot but what does TLOU2 selling 4 million copies has to do with the 80% fall off?

I honestly want this to fail (It wont and isn't) so changes are made within this company which allegedly treats its empployees like shit in the first place.

Third game cannot have Abby as a playable character. Or even Ellie at this point.

[ElNono]

Chris is a faggot but what does TLOU2 selling 4 million copies has to do with the 80% fall off?

I honestly want this to fail (It wont and isn't) so changes are made within this company which allegedly treats its empployees like shit in the first place.

Third game cannot have Abby as a playable character. Or even Ellie at this point.

It's not uncommon for boxed sales to have a serious dip after a big launch. IIRC, Days Gone dropped 60% too (and that was pre-covid). I believe the 80% is only for boxed sales, not digital.

The rationale is that fanboys and enthusiasts buy right at launch or preordered, the rest wait up until they have the money or some special occasion (birthdays, holidays, etc).

[Leetonidas]

Chris is a faggot but what does TLOU2 selling 4 million copies has to do with the 80% fall off?

I honestly want this to fail (It wont and isn't) so changes are made within this company which allegedly treats its empployees like shit in the first place.

Third game cannot have Abby as a playable character. Or even Ellie at this point.

well, considering they broke the sales record in 4 days it means a lot of people already have the game. considering the leaks and negative press it's gotten that is pretty good, and my point was that an 80% drop in sales after it broke the record for sales within 3 days isnt a big deal and i doubt ND is hurting for it


i get it man, you didnt like it, and thats perfectly fine. but plenty of us did

[Chris]

reck is salty from getting pushed around in the political forum :lol

[Reck]

reck is salty from getting pushed around in the political forum :lol

Chrisbot, did you missed the part where you're getting shit on here?

[Xevious]

I honestly want this to fail (It wont and isn't) so changes are made within this company which allegedly treats its empployees like shit in the first place.
It's really the entire industry. You can name a lot of other high profile companies like Rockstar, CD Projekt Red, etc they've had bad press related to working conditions. These fuckers are under such immense pressure to deliver on these AAA games (which are only getting harder and more time consuming to produce), I don't see it changing anytime soon.

[Chris]

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[Monostradamus]

reck is salty from getting pushed around in the political forum :lol
The lack of self awareness here^ :lmao

[Monostradamus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh5gzGs-63Y

Pretty intelligent take tbh

[Xevious]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh5gzGs-63Y

Pretty intelligent take tbh
I saw that yesterday, it's a good watch. :tu

[Xevious]

I finally finished the game. I'm not really sure where the franchise goes from here. The only meaningful story left for Ellie is if they bring back the possibility of her helping create a vaccine or something.

[Xevious]

I'm also surprised that so much attention/press was dedicated to that downtown Seattle area. I originally thought it was going to be a hub area with multiple paths similar to Lost Legacy, but you never go back there. It's only purpose to the story is to find some gas for a generator. :lol

[Leetonidas]

I finally finished the game. I'm not really sure where the franchise goes from here. The only meaningful story left for Ellie is if they bring back the possibility of her helping create a vaccine or something.

I'd play a prequel. Or even another game featuring Abby/Lev. Or another character entirely tbh, i just hope they make another game at some point

[Texas_Ranger]

so after bitching about all the review bombing, it turns out 47% of the 10/10's were fake and had the same written review on metacritic. I think the game is not a 1, but this shit wasn also not a 10.

[Leetonidas]

so after bitching about all the review bombing, it turns out 47% of the 10/10's were fake and had the same written review on metacritic. I think the game is not a 1, but this shit wasn also not a 10.

Link? curious to read up on it tbh. i would guess 50%+ of the 1/10 ratings were fake also considering how quick they were posted after release.

i agree, it was not a 10 (neither was the first imho) but was still at the very least an 8.5/10

[ElNono]

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smh inceldom

[Xevious]

^ I saw that. People are so fucking dumb.

[Texas_Ranger]

Link? curious to read up on it tbh. i would guess 50%+ of the 1/10 ratings were fake also considering how quick they were posted after release.

i agree, it was not a 10 (neither was the first imho) but was still at the very least an 8.5/10

saw it on youtube. I'll find a link and post it on this post later. And yea, i am sure people also did the same with 1/10's. I wouldn't say it's a 8.5 for me, but its good to see u enjoyed it.

[Leetonidas]

saw it on youtube. I'll find a link and post it on this post later. And yea, i am sure people also did the same with 1/10's. I wouldn't say it's a 8.5 for me, but its good to see u enjoyed it.

:tu understandable. imo the first one was a 9.5/10 in my book, so this one was definitely not as good but still really good, probably on par with Uncharted 4 for me which i thoroughly enjoyed. i just dont get the hate and vitriol over a video game. Yeah Joel gets murdered pretty unceremoniously but that didnt automatically make the game awful like some of the people like those retards sending death threats to Abby's voice actor :lol that shits just crazy over a video game