MUTANT CORONAVIRUS SPIKE D614G EMERGES. MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS AND LIKELY IMMUNE TO 1ST STRAIN VACCINE

[hater]

called it :wow

https://twitter.com/drdenagrayson/status/1257685288601649153?s=21

[boutons_deux]

you didn't read the article, you called a wrong number

[Splits]

Not D614G. Please no.

[hater]

:lol Los Alamos

cant make this shit up

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1257756828827627525?s=21

[hater]

Every future month in the year 2020:

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[pgardn]

So we are suffering from the NEW strain since March.
Thank you for your accurate chronology hater.

can i get a "called it" from the peoples of the congregation of Shit Is Getting Real ...

[baseline bum]

Wonder if this mutated strain is behind the lower death rates vs what we saw in Wuhan. All things being equal you'd probably expect more contagious less deadly strains to develop and become dominant from natural selection?

[TimDunkem]

So we are suffering from the NEW strain since March.
Thank you for your accurate chronology hater.

can i get a "called it" from the peoples of the congregation of Shit Is Getting Real ...

Mid-March which is when things closed down. Who knows? Maybe the West Coast and most of America got the less contagious strain and are sitting ducks for the new one.

[midnightpulp]

Sorry to ruin your day, Hater.

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[hater]

Wonder if this mutated strain is behind the lower death rates vs what we saw in Wuhan. All things being equal you'd probably expect more contagious less deadly strains to develop and become dominant from natural selection?

lower?? you mean higher

[midnightpulp]

^And Dr. Rasmussen's comment chain shreds that article pretty mercilessly. Good read.

[hater]

btw Im not saying this is more lethal

noone knows that yet

but the lethatity of the Iran/Spain/Italy virus was more than Wuhan

https://twitter.com/bixtweets/status/1257777612937519105?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/anncrosby3/status/1257776673161744384?s=21

[pgardn]

Mid-March which is when things closed down. Who knows? Maybe the West Coast and most of America got the less contagious strain and are sitting ducks for the new one.

The article basically says the first strain was in Wuhan China, the strain we have now is NOT a new strain from the one the entire US has been subject to.
I was attempting to make fun of his NEW strain "we will all now die" original feeling. Hes always exaggerating. A few poster have already caught it during the first few posts. The article also then led to the implication that some people in China may not be immune to the Euro-US-rest of the world strain hater is calling new.

Thats how I read it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Wonder if this mutated strain is behind the lower death rates vs what we saw in Wuhan. All things being equal you'd probably expect more contagious less deadly strains to develop and become dominant from natural selection?

No, the new strain is just as deadly as the Wuhan strain AND more infectious. The thought is California has the
Wuhan strain while New York has the mutated strain via italy/Europe.

[pgardn]

lower?? you mean higher

No

long term it might be lower if a virus kills or disables its host before it can be spread effectively.
Cold viruses are not going anywhere because they usually dont kill the hosts.

[spurraider21]

lower?? you mean higher
you'd expect lower death rates. viruses do better when they spread more, obviously. killing off your host too quickly/effectively doesnt give you enough chance to spread. it's why the flu and cold are so successful

[spurraider21]

pgardn beat me to it

[pgardn]

No, the new strain is just as deadly as the Wuhan strain AND more infectious. The thought is California has the
Wuhan strain while New York has the mutated strain via italy/Europe.

Key statement below: I would say the article is a bit confusing and could have used some graphics.
Also they did not say anything about California yet but I would have to believe its the "new" strain if there is no report.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote

[hater]

this is worrying but the fact that only about 20% New Yorkers infected (according to antibody test) is even more worrying

[hater]

this also explains why some ppl cant shake the virus. this is very much like a flu virus imo

[pgardn]

this also explains why some ppl cant shake the virus. this is very much like a flu virus imo

The symptoms are lasting longer without secondary infections necessarily being the cause of death (which is why most people die from the flu virus.)

[baseline bum]

No

long term it might be lower if a virus kills or disables its host before it can be spread effectively.
Cold viruses are not going anywhere because they usually dont kill the hosts.

Yeah look how tame the 2009 H1N1 was vs the 1918 H1N1.

[pgardn]

Yeah look how tame the 2009 H1N1 was vs the 1918 H1N1.

Well we also have vaccines now which if they don’t stop the infection, often make the symptoms milder.
More importantly we have antibiotics to kill secondary infections. In WWI they were not really even used. Those poor folks still had sulfadrugs for surface wounds to kill bacteria. You could not take the Trumpian route of inhaling sulfadrugs to kill bacterial secondary infections from the flu. I wonder if anyone actually tried it...

And that’s really a huge difference between this beast and most flu viruses. This thing basically is causing our own body to overdo the immune response as snakeboy has pointed out.

[baseline bum]

Well we also have vaccines now which if they don’t stop the infection, often make the symptoms milder.
More importantly we have antibiotics to kill secondary infections. In WWI they were not really even used. Those poor folks still had sulfadrugs for surface wounds to kill bacteria. You could not take the Trumpian route of inhaling sulfadrugs to kill bacterial secondary infections from the flu. I wonder if anyone actually tried it...

And that’s really a huge difference between this beast and most flu viruses. This thing basically is causing our own body to overdo the immune response as snakeboy has pointed out.

Didn't a lot of people get violently ill immiately and die quickly in a day or two from H1N1 in 1918 though too? If that was tamed by evolution by natural selection hopefully similar will happen over the years with SARSCov2. Not like we're ever likely to be rid of it.

[DMC]

you'd expect lower death rates. viruses do better when they spread more, obviously. killing off your host too quickly/effectively doesnt give you enough chance to spread. it's why the flu and cold are so successful

:lol folks like hater think a virus lives to kill things. The more things it can kill the more successful in the evolutionary filter it would be. The META virus lol

[DMC]

Didn't a lot of people get violently ill immiately and die quickly in a day or two from H1N1 in 1918 though too? If that was tamed by evolution by natural selection hopefully similar will happen over the years with SARSCov2. Not like we're ever likely to be rid of it.

Dale, what do you recall about this?

[hater]

:lol folks like hater think a virus lives to kill things. The more things it can kill the more successful in the evolutionary filter it would be. The META virus lol

viruses dont “live” ya stupid inbred fuck :lmao

[phxspurfan]

Thread should be locked and OP pinked for spreading misinformation and using all caps like Trumptard

[hater]

Thread should be locked and OP pinked for spreading misinformation and using all caps like Trumptard

lol this is direct taken from a science doc nig

sure some peeps might disagree but everyone disagrees about any science studies

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1


meanwhile go bitch about other posters like Ducks, TGY and Buttocks posting misinformation

[Millennial_Messiah]

Just imagine what if a 50% mortality rate virus like Ebola or the 2005-06 H5N1 Bird flu spreads around the world at this rate of contagion. Just wow!!!!

[pgardn]

Didn't a lot of people get violently ill immiately and die quickly in a day or two from H1N1 in 1918 though too? If that was tamed by evolution by natural selection hopefully similar will happen over the years with SARSCov2. Not like we're ever likely to be rid of it.

I think you are correct if I recall the latest on the 1918 as it took a number of young men. But it also had some waves that killed old people less rapidly I believe.
H1N1 I dont recall. Good catch.

[pgardn]

viruses dont “live” ya stupid inbred fuck :lmao

Depends on your definition of what alive means.
If it just means the ability to reproduce and make more of itself while creating variation, its alive.
Now the way it makes more of itself definitely clouds the picture. Along with its incredibly simple structure.

[hater]

Just imagine what if a 50% mortality rate virus like Ebola or the 2005-06 H5N1 Bird flu spreads around the world at this rate of contagion. Just wow!!!!

watch the movie outbreak minus the cheesy ending :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

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[pgardn]

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[ElNono]

WW XII... Rocky vs the mutant virus... is it coming to Netflix soon?

[Millennial_Messiah]

watch the movie outbreak minus the cheesy ending :lol

I have watched "Contagion" and "Fatal Contact: Bird Flu In America", the latter of which also has a cheesy ending.

[TimDunkem]

I think you are correct if I recall the latest on the 1918 as it took a number of young men. But it also had some waves that killed old people less rapidly I believe.
H1N1 I dont recall. Good catch.

Pretty sure the first wave of Spanish Flu killed mostly the old first then the young died in subsequent waves.

[hater]

Pretty sure the first wave of Spanish Flu killed mostly the old first then the young died in subsequent waves.

yup 2nd wave obliterated young due to that CytokinosomethingStorm in their bodies

they basically exploded :lol