Right wing/Left wing bullshit

[turambar85]

I am personally sick of every time a liberal refers to a conservative, or a conservative refers to a liberal, they use such disgust and hatred. They use the terms as if each is a dirty word that shouldn't be said in front of their grandparents. There are very few people who are strictly tied to party lines, and those few people are foolish sheep who you shouldn't worry about anyway. There are many conservatives and liberals who say things that I truly enjoy and other things that turn my head. Neither party is evil and out to destroy America as so many seem to think, but they are only trying to do what they see as right, and almost 50 percent of America agrees with each of them, so its all on perspective as to who is evil. As a semi-enlightened country we need to shed the ignorance that surrounds all of our political debate and learn that neither liberals or conservatives,as a group, are trying to destroy our country, and remove the walls that surround the two parties which alienate a large portion of our country, such as myself.

[boutons]

Have you noticed that the standard right-wing/conservative response to an issue raised by a dissenter is to attack the dissenter with the utmost vile and condescension rather than respond to the issue? I didn't think so.

Hannity/O'Reilly/Rove/etc SOP.

The extreme polarization of political dialogue began with the Bush/Atwater filth in the 88 campaign, and was confirmed and solidified with the Gingrich/Repub "revolution" in the 94 midterms, the Repub shutdown of the govt, and continued in standard Reign of Terror/Inquisition fashion by extremely politicized/partisan prosecutor Starr, who "activistic-ally" expanded his mandate to include a merciless hounding of a Dem president. The Office of the President merits respect? Fuck that! As long as it ain't occupied by a Repub, the Repubs will drag it the Office of the President through a cesspool. The Repubs have moved campaigning and politics beyond a issue-oriented, we-want-to-govern to a goal to destroy any political opposition, to produce a Repub-party monopoly that can be abused without fear of reaction, not to govern but to pillage and destroy federal govt.

The political life of the US is probably polarized beyond recovery for at least a generation. Extremely negative/attack/vicious campaigning works (see the current NJ and NY elections, Swift Boat lies, etc). The American People say they don't like it, but they vote it. They get the scumbag politicians The American People deserve.

So quit blaming the politicians as primarily, solely responsible, or even left/right non-politicians. The current corruption of the American politics at all levels by $$$, by incivility and extreme polarization is nothing but a product of current American Way of Life.

When you call it sickening, you're looking in a mirror.

[FromWayDowntown]

Q.E.D., I think.

[Vashner]

Ying Yang....
Humans have always had and enjoy a good conflict..

[Spurminator]

Have you noticed that the standard right-wing/conservative response to an issue raised by a dissenter is to attack the dissenter with the utmost vile and condescension rather than respond to the issue? I didn't think so.

Hannity/O'Reilly/Rove/etc SOP.

The extreme polarization of political dialogue began with the Bush/Atwater filth in the 88 campaign, and was confirmed and solidified with the Gingrich/Repub "revolution" in the 94 midterms, the Repub shutdown of the govt, and continued in standard Reign of Terror/Inquisition fashion by extremely politicized/partisan prosecutor Starr, who "activistic-ally" expanded his mandate to include a merciless hounding of a Dem president. The Office of the President merits respect? Fuck that! As long as it ain't occupied by a Repub, the Repubs will drag it the Office of the President through a cesspool. The Repubs have moved campaigning and politics beyond a issue-oriented, we-want-to-govern to a goal to destroy any political opposition, to produce a Repub-party monopoly that can be abused without fear of reaction, not to govern but to pillage and destroy federal govt.

The political life of the US is probably polarized beyond recovery for at least a generation. Extremely negative/attack/vicious campaigning works (see the current NJ and NY elections, Swift Boat lies, etc). The American People say they don't like it, but they vote it. They get the scumbag politicians The American People deserve.

So quit blaming the politicians as primarily, solely responsible, or even left/right non-politicians. The current corruption of the American politics at all levels by $$$, by incivility and extreme polarization is nothing but a product of current American Way of Life.

When you call it sickening, you're looking in a mirror.

Translated: "But, but, THEY STARTED IT!"

Turambar's point illustrated to perfection. At least boutons is good for something.

Nah, I take it back.

[SpursWoman]

Translated: "But, but, THEY STARTED IT!"

Turambar's point illustrated to perfection. At least boutons is good for something.

Nah, I take it back.


I swear to God, if you look up "irony" in the dictionary, boutons picture would be right there.

:lol :lol :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

croutons continues to be fooled by the belt high fastball.

[Nbadan]

I am personally sick of every time a liberal refers to a conservative, or a conservative refers to a liberal, they use such disgust and hatred. They use the terms as if each is a dirty word that shouldn't be said in front of their grandparents. There are very few people who are strictly tied to party lines, and those few people are foolish sheep who you shouldn't worry about anyway. There are many conservatives and liberals who say things that I truly enjoy and other things that turn my head. Neither party is evil and out to destroy America as so many seem to think, but they are only trying to do what they see as right, and almost 50 percent of America agrees with each of them, so its all on perspective as to who is evil. As a semi-enlightened country we need to shed the ignorance that surrounds all of our political debate and learn that neither liberals or conservatives,as a group, are trying to destroy our country, and remove the walls that surround the two parties which alienate a large portion of our country, such as myself.

Thus we've learned the hard way that allowing too much concentrated power on either side of the political spectrum is a meal-ticket to party cronyism and very, very corruptible. It’s time to do in 06 what we should have done in 04 and separate the House and Senate from the WH. You'll be surprised what other disgusting things will come out of the closet.

[BronxCowboy]

Neither party is evil and out to destroy America as so many seem to think, but they are only trying to do what they see as right,


I would disagree here; of course neither party is trying to destroy America, but neither are they out there trying to do the right thing. I would argue that the majority of our leaders on both sides of the aisle (as well as most of the talking heads keeping the populace stirred up) are really out there for money and power, nothing more. That said, there really is no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

[Vashner]

We have to fight democrats cause they are dumbasses that would give away the whole country to the enemy.

They want your guns.. they want your cash... and they want you to stay gimmped.

[RandomGuy]

We have to fight democrats cause they are dumbasses that would give away the whole country to the enemy.

They want your guns.. they want your cash... and they want you to stay gimmped.

We have to fight Republicans cause they are dumbasses that would give away the whole country to the enemy.

They want your guns.. they want your cash... and the want you to stay gimmped.

[Hook Dem]

This political forum is nothing more than a mudslinging slug fest.No one's mind will be changed and it is just a place to vent one's frustrations! That being said,..............Fuck all ya'll ! :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Funny, I haven't come across too many suburban libbies who have a problem with being able to buy cheap Chinese shit at Wal-Mart and other outlets as well as to finance their homes and autos and what not at low rates. What seems to motivate them are whether they can abort 'mistakes' and whether assfuckers and carpetmunchers can marry each other.

This country is divided on social issues. Geeks worry about the twin deficits.

[Yonivore]

This political forum is nothing more than a mudslinging slug fest.No one's mind will be changed and it is just a place to vent one's frustrations! That being said,..............Fuck all ya'll ! :lol
I actually appreciate the opinions of people like Random Guy and others, whom I don't have on ignore, because they help to hone my arguments when I'm dealing with real people in the real world.

It helps to know what the idiots think before you shoot them down on the street common sense.

But, you're right, an argument is never won in here...nor will it ever be. A lot of people would rather drop dead before they admitting they've been wrong on something as fundamental as political ideology.

But, dealing with real people is different -- you either support your argument or you concede. I've yet to have to concede an argument with a real live person...where it counts.

Ciao!

[Vashner]

Where is the bipartisanship in this country when we need it most?

Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our commander in chief.

What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in? I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny. It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city.

Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.

But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators.

Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier.

And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.

For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom he abuses to burn that flag.

No one should dare to even think about being the commander in chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.

But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking, America is the problem, not the solution. They don't believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.

It is not their patriotism, it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking.

They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace. They were wrong.

They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war. They were wrong.

And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

Together, Kennedy and Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that are now winning the war on terror.

Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security.

But Americans need to know the facts.

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40 percent of the bombs in the first six months of Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down

Gadhafi's Libyan MiGs over the Gulf of Sidra.

The modernized F-14D, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War.

The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's capital and this very city after 9/11.

I could go on and on and on -- against the Patriot Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel; against the Aegis air-defense cruiser; against the Strategic Defense Initiative; against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the commander in chief of our U.S. Armed Forces?

U.S. forces armed with what? Spit balls?

Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than 20 weeks of campaign rhetoric.

Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are. How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside.

Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.

Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide.

John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security. That's the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world. Free for how long?

For more than 20 years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure.

As a war protester, Kerry blamed our military.

As a senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harm's way, far away.

George W. Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats.

John Kerry wants to refight yesterday's war. President Bush believes we have to fight today's war and be ready for tomorrow's challenges. President Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists, no matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under.

[SpursWoman]

But, dealing with real people is different


Hey, I'm a real person........ :depressed

[Yonivore]

Hey, I'm a real person........ :depressed
Oh boy, are you! :)

[Yonivore]

Oh wait! I said that, didn't I? Well, I didn't mean YOU! You're the only real person I know in here! :kiss (<< I gotta get some more emoticons) Where do you get yours?)

:makeout Oh wait! I found the one! Except, it should be me going over to you...oh, nevermind.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Have you noticed that the standard right-wing/conservative response to an issue raised by a dissenter is to attack the dissenter with the utmost vile and condescension rather than respond to the issue? I didn't think so.

This coming from a person who posted:


If you can't, just more lying, typical right-wing bullshit, nothing but unending spew of bullshit.

btw, I see you couldn't man up to the demolishings I lay on your wimpy, faggot ass here, so you went to the club to smear me with some story about sexual animal abuse. Typical Karl Rove "ethics". You people are sickening.

Pot...kettle...croutons...

[Phil E.Buster]

The bullshit both parties throw at each other makes my job easier.

[scott]

Politics are the number 1 thing standing in the way of Government progress in this country.