View Full Version : At least 4 states combined numbers from two tests, possibly providing a misleading picture of coronavirus spread
ducks
05-21-2020, 09:08 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/21/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
"Opening" of states has become as much political as it is economic or public health driven. That's sad but we have to begin the process of opening states.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 09:38 AM
"Opening" of states has become as much political as it is economic or public health driven. That's sad but we have to begin the process of opening states.
this whole thing has been political. None of it has used science legitimately. This has been the problem from the beginning.
Thread
05-21-2020, 10:29 AM
this whole thing has been political. None of it has used science legitimately. This has been the problem from the beginning.
True, because there is not legitimate science. It's all been politicized & corrupted. & in truth, (science) doesn't have a legitimate answer, which is kind of cool, to see them struggle like the other billions of people on earth.
Big shots.
"Opening?" Christ, we never closed down. Been sneakin' around since it started, ratting the other guy out while raking it in until the other guy ratted us out. On & on.
ducks
05-21-2020, 10:35 AM
The scientist said about the virus to begin with they know nothing !
boutons_deux
05-21-2020, 10:51 AM
"Opening" of states has become as much political as it is economic or public health driven. That's sad but we have to begin the process of opening states.
what's sad how the red states opening so stupidly (iow, The Repug Way) is guaranteed to see spikes.
fuckedup ducks' article mentions 3 red states and one with a Demo governor but probably Repug administration LYING to their citizens so business owners can start making profits.
what's sad how the red states opening so stupidly (iow, The Repug Way) is guaranteed to see spikes.
fuckedup ducks' article mentions 3 red states and one with a Demo governor but probably Repug administration LYING to their citizens so business owners can start making profits.
You hear "profit" and you immediately think "exploitation" but businesses have to open, and not only that, the local governments get crushed with no sales tax revenues coming in.
Chucho
05-21-2020, 12:01 PM
what's sad how the red states opening so stupidly (iow, The Repug Way) is guaranteed to see spikes.
fuckedup ducks' article mentions 3 red states and one with a Demo governor but probably Repug administration LYING to their citizens so business owners can start making profits.
We're two weeks into FL and GA re-opening. Where are your shitty articles with "massive spikes" to drive fear right up your pussy canal?
pgardn
05-21-2020, 12:12 PM
And here is more:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
Ducks aint gonna like this if he actually reads it.
Bottom line: Mixing results means States might be OPENING TOO SOON.
Texas, where the rate of new COVID-19 infections has stubbornly refused to fall, is one of the most worrying states (along with Georgia). The Texas Observer first reported (https://www.texasobserver.org/covid-19-tests-combine-texas/) last week that the state was lumping its viral and antibody results together. On Tuesday, Governor Greg Abbott denied that the state was blending the results, but the Dallas Observer reports (https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/texas-coronavirus-testing-conflate-antibodies-11912520) that it is still doing so.
Thread
05-21-2020, 12:44 PM
You hear "profit" and you immediately think "exploitation" but businesses have to open, and not only that, the local governments get crushed with no sales tax revenues coming in.
That's when they deploy & start pointing radar guns at us.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:04 PM
And here is more:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
Ducks aint gonna like this if he actually reads it.
Bottom line: Mixing results means States might be OPENING TOO SOON.
Texas, where the rate of new COVID-19 infections has stubbornly refused to fall, is one of the most worrying states (along with Georgia). The Texas Observer first reported (https://www.texasobserver.org/covid-19-tests-combine-texas/) last week that the state was lumping its viral and antibody results together. On Tuesday, Governor Greg Abbott denied that the state was blending the results, but the Dallas Observer reports (https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/texas-coronavirus-testing-conflate-antibodies-11912520) that it is still doing so.
Lol so you mean the cdc doesn't have a plan. No kidding. Its what people have been saying since January. Another reason why you will never have a legit count of mortality. But science, right?
You pushing models still? Where is your science that a lockdown saved anyone? You don't have any because it doesn't exist. Thats the science. There will never be actual data to prove this.
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:08 PM
Lol so you mean the cdc doesn't have a plan. No kidding. Its what people have been saying since January. Another reason why you will never have a legit count of mortality. But science, right?
You pushing models still? Where is your science that a lockdown saved anyone? You don't have any because it doesn't exist. Thats the science. There will never be actual data to prove this.Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Please just answer without melting down this time. You're just sad when that happens.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:10 PM
And here is more:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
Ducks aint gonna like this if he actually reads it.
Bottom line: Mixing results means States might be OPENING TOO SOON.
Texas, where the rate of new COVID-19 infections has stubbornly refused to fall, is one of the most worrying states (along with Georgia). The Texas Observer first reported (https://www.texasobserver.org/covid-19-tests-combine-texas/) last week that the state was lumping its viral and antibody results together. On Tuesday, Governor Greg Abbott denied that the state was blending the results, but the Dallas Observer reports (https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/texas-coronavirus-testing-conflate-antibodies-11912520) that it is still doing so.
The Atlantic will lay off almost 20 percent of its staff as a result of the economic downturn caused by the coronavirus pandemic, the top executive announced Thursday
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:13 PM
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Please just answer without melting down this time. You're just sad when that happens.
No, you said millIons would be dead by April, all hospitals would be over capacity, this is just like the spanish flu.
I said the at risk are always the ones at risk. I was right. Now you just angry.
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:18 PM
No, you said millIons would be dead by April, all hospitals would be over capacity, this is just like the spanish flu.
I said the at risk are always the ones at risk. I was right. Now you just angry.Yeah, you're melting down again.
Take a deep breath and try to focus.
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Just start out with a yes or no and we can proceed. Don't be so afraid of me and adult conversation.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:21 PM
Yeah, you're melting down again.
Take a deep breath and try to focus.
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Just start out with a yes or no and we can proceed.
You said ny would need ships. And you didn't know ny had wet markets. Lol you are not smart and you tried to prove a completely fictional suggestion....THE KANSAS FLU ... lololo
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:23 PM
You said ny would need ships. And you didn't know ny had wet markets. Lol you are not smart and you tried to prove a completely fictional suggestion....THE KANSAS FLU ... lololoIs your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Yes or no.
Make yourself clear.
That's when they deploy & start pointing radar guns at us.
goddamn radar, drives bats crazy
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Yes or no.
Make yourself clear.
His argument is obviously that he's smarter than you. That's it and that's all.
:lol
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:26 PM
His argument is obviously that he's smarter than you. That's it and that's all.
:lolIs that your inference? :lol
Is that your inference? :lol
random deflection post from the 24/7 ST hall monitor
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:36 PM
random deflection post from the 24/7 ST hall monitor:lmao you're seriously trying to call someone else out for deflecting?
:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin
You will always be upset that you're not as smart as you want to be thought of here.
Always.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:40 PM
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Yes or no.
Make yourself clear.
*kansas*
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:42 PM
*kansas*:lol another deflection.
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Yes or no.
Make yourself clear.
I know you're very afraid of me right now, but just give it a try.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:43 PM
:lol another deflection.
Is your argument there should never have been any lockdowns anywhere?
Yes or no.
Make yourself clear.
Kansas
pgardn
05-21-2020, 01:43 PM
Lol so you mean the cdc doesn't have a plan. No kidding. Its what people have been saying since January. Another reason why you will never have a legit count of mortality. But science, right?
You pushing models still? Where is your science that a lockdown saved anyone? You don't have any because it doesn't exist. Thats the science. There will never be actual data to prove this.
No the CDC has a political plan to mix results so States can open.
This is what the blue team can posit.
ST hall monitor going into autistic screeching repetition mode to try to claim the "you folded" autowin.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:44 PM
No the CDC has a political plan to mix results so States can open.
This is what the blue team can posit.
Lol wrong
pgardn
05-21-2020, 01:45 PM
Lol wrong
Oh so the blue team could not say this?
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:47 PM
ST hall monitor going into autistic screeching repetition mode to try to claim the "you folded" autowin.:lol nah, I genuinely want to know what he thinks about lockdowns.
I'll ask you too since you've taken such an interest.
Do you think all the lockdowns were totally unnecessary?
Yes or no.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 01:47 PM
The Atlantic will lay off almost 20 percent of its staff as a result of the economic downturn caused by the coronavirus pandemic, the top executive announced Thursday
so the fck what?
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:47 PM
Oh so the blue team could not say this?
Post more from the Atlantic!!
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:47 PM
:lol nah, I genuinely want to know what he thinks about lockdowns.
I'll ask you too since you've taken such an interest.
Do you think all the lockdowns were totally unnecessary?
Yes or no.
Kansas
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:49 PM
KansasDo you think all the lockdowns were totally unnecessary?
Yes or no.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:50 PM
This is the same as the Kansas flu. Let me show you more modeling and get information from Twitter. Lol
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:50 PM
This is the same as the Kansas flu. Let me show you more modeling and get information from Twitter. Lol:lol all you can do is try to deflect.
Do you think all the lockdowns were totally unnecessary?
Yes or no.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:51 PM
:lol all you can do is try to deflect.
Do you think all the lockdowns were totally unnecessary?
Yes or no.
You said kansas flu
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 01:52 PM
You said kansas fluDo you think all the lockdowns were totally unnecessary?
Yes or no.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 01:53 PM
Lol so you mean the cdc doesn't have a plan. No kidding. Its what people have been saying since January. Another reason why you will never have a legit count of mortality. But science, right?
You pushing models still? Where is your science that a lockdown saved anyone? You don't have any because it doesn't exist. Thats the science. There will never be actual data to prove this.
You dont know fck about science.
Data is used to make models, if the models are predictive, excellent, if they are not, the data has proved the model does not work. Its a constant interplay back and forth.
Net Force cause mass to accelerate. This model is so simple it can be reduced to a nice mathematical formula or MATH MODEL. If we find out the data we get from testing Newtons second law does not work, we throw it out and make a better one.
Dont you dare pretend like you understand shit about science or get shit slapped again.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 01:55 PM
Post more from the Atlantic!!
Post more from your rotten thought process!!
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:58 PM
You dont know fck about science.
Data is used to make models, if the models are predictive, excellent, if they are not, the data has proved the model does not work. Its a constant interplay back and forth.
Net Force cause mass to accelerate. This model is so simple it can be reduced to a nice mathematical formula or MATH MODEL. If we find out the data we get from testing Newtons second law does not work, we throw it out and make a better one.
Dont you dare pretend like you understand shit about science or get shit slapped again.
bwahahahaha what a reaponse.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 01:58 PM
Post more from your rotten thought process!!
Rotten... bahahhahah
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 02:00 PM
bwahahahaha what a reaponse.
Rotten... bahahhahah
:lol you called COVID-19 the flu.
That's completely wrong.
bwahahahaha what a reaponse.
He's a real gem, jonsing for some scientific cred here because the real community shunned his Google degree.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 02:02 PM
bwahahahaha what a reaponse.
Rotten... bahahhahah
Excellent retort(s).
Refute the accuracy.
You wont.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 02:04 PM
He's a real gem, jonsing for some scientific cred here because the real community shunned him.
Oh you are the real community because you got bitch slapped.
And you shun me yet respond constantly. I told you to ignore me if you get too frustrated.
Poor old fella. What have I said about science that is incorrect?
tholdren
05-21-2020, 02:05 PM
Oh you are the real community because you got bitch slapped.
And you shun me yet respond constantly. I told you to ignore me if you get to frustrated.
Poor old fella. What have I said about science that is incorrect?
Science is not just a hypothesis
Oh you are the real community because you got bitch slapped.
And you shun me yet respond constantly. I told you to ignore me if you get too frustrated.
Poor old fella. What have I said about science that is incorrect?
I'm not the real scientific community. I'm just a vagabond on a lonely website slinging my poo. The real scientific community, they probably laughed at you in secret. I bet they have memes about you.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 02:07 PM
Science is not just a hypothesis
Where did I say that?
pgardn
05-21-2020, 02:09 PM
I'm not the real scientific community. I'm just a vagabond on a lonely website slinging my poo. The real scientific community, they probably laughed at you in secret. I bet they have memes about you.
Oh they laughed at me is secret... ya think? The community you are not a part of. But you just bet...
You poor old bastard, just make a play up in you head.
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 02:10 PM
Oh they laughed at me is secret... ya think? The community you are not a part of. But you just bet...
You poor old bastard, just make a play up in you head.:lol DMC's narratives
tholdren
05-21-2020, 02:13 PM
Where did I say that?
In your ignorance to continue to push modeling as fact. Un oh
Oh they laughed at me is secret... ya think? The community you are not a part of. But you just bet...
You poor old bastard, just make a play up in you head.
Sure.. you already know :lol
pgardn
05-21-2020, 04:46 PM
Sure.. you already know :lol
Oh he plays Ms. Cleo and misses “just a bit outside”.
And the emoticon signals failure.
Stick to your guns and your 2nd amendment science headhunter : )
pgardn
05-21-2020, 04:51 PM
In your ignorance to continue to push modeling as fact. Un oh
You continue to have no idea what you are writing and what I have written.
DMC picking you up as his little stray kitten is cute, but he has this thing about w/L and you are not helping him.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 04:52 PM
You continue to have no idea what you are writing and what I have written.
DMC picking you up as his little stray kitten is cute, but he has this thing about w/L and you are not helping him.
Models models models they have to be right scientists!!!!
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 04:54 PM
Models models models they have to be right scientists!!!!What is your scientific background?
pgardn
05-21-2020, 04:57 PM
You dont know fck about science.
Data is used to make models, if the models are predictive, excellent, if they are not, the data has proved the model does not work. Its a constant interplay back and forth.
You need to read this AGAIN.
These are the basics.
pgardn
05-21-2020, 04:59 PM
What is your scientific background?
Credentials:
He got kicked out upstairs and got adopted by some Trumptards.
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 04:59 PM
Credentials:
He got kicked out upstairs and got adopted by some Trumptards.:lol his takes
pgardn
05-21-2020, 05:08 PM
:lol his takes
I don’t get why people just wander off cliffs.
Why would one continue to post about something they don’t know...?
Im not going to just begin posting in the Tech section about games and systems I have never used or here about specific detailed laws I don’t know the significance of.
I understand opinion and backing it up.
But just pretending is gonna catch up to you.
Or maybe not.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 05:16 PM
I don’t get why people just wander off cliffs.
Why would one continue to post about something they don’t know...?
Im not going to just begin posting in the Tech section about games and systems I have never used or here about specific detailed laws I don’t know the significance of.
I understand opinion and backing it up.
But just pretending is gonna catch up to you.
Or maybe not.
You've been wrong rhe whole time. Now you're salty. Sad day for you. Triggered and wrong wrong wrong
pgardn
05-21-2020, 05:21 PM
You've been wrong rhe whole time. Now you're salty. Sad day for you. Triggered and wrong wrong wrong
Read my statement again on science and tell me what’s wrong.
You can’t.
You have tried this before and it’s not been good for you.
tholdren
05-21-2020, 05:22 PM
Read my statement again and tell me what’s wrong.
You can’t.
You have tried this before and it’s not been good for you.
Hahahhahaha you're wrong again. Lol
pgardn
05-21-2020, 05:26 PM
Hahahhahaha you're wrong again. Lol
And this is what it comes to...
Serious, wrong, giving up.
boutons_deux
05-21-2020, 08:42 PM
After blowback, Texas admits 6% of its reported tests were of antibodies, not active infections
The state is now distinguishing antibody tests from standard viral tests.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/21/texas-coronavirus-testing-antibodies/
Repugs are probably still lying.
ChumpDumper
05-21-2020, 09:09 PM
After blowback, Texas admits 6% of its reported tests were of antibodies, not active infections
The state is now distinguishing antibody tests from standard viral tests.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/21/texas-coronavirus-testing-antibodies/
Repugs are probably still lying.
:lol why all the lies?
tholdren
05-21-2020, 09:14 PM
And this is what it comes to...
Serious, wrong, giving up.
https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD/status/1263294734249988102?s=19
pgardn
05-21-2020, 09:54 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD/status/1263294734249988102?s=19
Great.
This has nothing at all to do with the discussion.
Nothing.
Did you use the wrong reply with quote?
tholdren
05-22-2020, 07:20 PM
Great.
This has nothing at all to do with the discussion.
Nothing.
Did you use the wrong reply with quote?
The March 16 report by Imperial College epidemiologist Neil Ferguson is credited (or blamed) with causing the U.K. to lock down and contributing to the domino effect of global lockdowns. The model has since come under intense criticism for being “totally unreliable and a buggy mess.”
This is the same Neil Ferguson who in 2005 predicted 200 million could die from the bird flu. Total deaths over the last 15 years turned out to be 455. This is the same Neil Ferguson who in 2009 predicted that 65,000 people could die in the U.K. from the swine flu. The final number ended up around 392. Now, in 2020, he predicted that 500,000 British would die from coronavirus.
His deeply flawed model led the United States to fear over 2 million deaths and was used to justify locking down nearly the entire nation. Dr. Ferguson is a character of Shakespearean drama and tragedy. His March 17 presentation to British elites on the dire need to take action ironically may have infected Boris Johnson and other top British officials, as Mr. Ferguson himself tested positive for COVID-19 two days later. Then in May he resigned in disgrace after he broke his own quarantine rules to meet clandestinely with a married woman.
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