Biden with another trainwreck interview with black radio host. Tells him if you are for Trump you aint black

[hater]

:lmao

this mummy is fucking great comedic value

I am considering supporting him for the endless :lol s. :lol

https://twitter.com/realcandaceo/status/1263835991430889472?s=21

https://twitter.com/realdailywire/status/1263860833580269568?s=21

[hater]

nigas waking up to Joe Biden nightmare :wow

https://twitter.com/montaga/status/1263813942020726784?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1263816200334737408?s=21

[Spurs Homer]

Is biden in prison yet?

in a jumpsuit?


lol

hater the “king” of nothing-burgers!

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1263816200334737408?s=21

Maniacally posting tweet and he still gets it wrong. He says be joe Biden, not beat.

[hater]

Maniacally posting tweet and he still gets it wrong. He says be joe Biden, not beat.

:lmao you speek Alzheimerese miga?

[hater]

Is biden in prison yet?

in a jumpsuit?


lol

hater the “king” of nothing-burgers!

i never said hes going to jail

nice fail homer

[Reck]

:lmao you speek Alzheimerese miga?

No, just English. And Spanish.

This clip, too is out of context but even without it it's clear he says BE. Necesitas hisopos?

[Spurs Homer]

i never said hes going to jail

nice fail homer

so that ukrainian BOMBSHELL

was a nothing-burger- just like I said?


ok thanks! :lmao

[Nathan89]

Racist Dems treating blacks as dogs. Nothing new here tbh.

[hater]

Racist Dems treating blacks as dogs. Nothing new here tbh.

can u imagine if trump had said that?

:lmao

and that poor black uncle tom took it like a bitch

never liked that guy tbqh

although I heard he was supporting bernie

[Nathan89]

Dems manipulating people to vote based on skin color is exactly why they want open borders.

[in2deep]

No, just English. And Spanish.

This clip, too is out of context but even without it it's clear he says BE. Necesitas hisopos?

are you stupid?

he clearly said Beat Joe Biden

why would he say be joe biden? that doesnt even make any fucking sense

[hater]

https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/1263884843039051778?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1263886415521132544?s=21

[Nathan89]

Everything is a "nothing burger" in a world where the extremist already admitted they would vote for Biden even if he's "boiling babies and eating them" or even if they knew the rape allegations are true.

[ChumpDumper]

Dems manipulating people to vote based on skin color is exactly why they want open borders.You're infantilizing minorities. Does that make you feel good about yourself?

[ChumpDumper]

Everything is a "nothing burger" in a world where the extremist already admitted they would vote for Biden even if he's "boiling babies and eating them" or even if they knew the rape allegations are true.Would you vote for Trump if you knew all the rape allegations against him were true?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/1263884843039051778?s=21

"Diversity is our strength"

[Nathan89]

You're infantilizing minorities. Does that make you feel good about yourself?

Calling out what Dems are blatantly doing is not the problem.

[Reck]

are you stupid?

he clearly said Beat Joe Biden

why would he say be joe biden? that doesnt even make any fucking sense

Oh I dont know. Maybe because the interviewer asked about Bernie and Warren policies and how Biden would differentiate.

[ChumpDumper]

Calling out what Dems are blatantly doing is not the problem.We're talking about your infantilizing them. Is that a problem?

[Trill Clinton]

disappointing but not that big of a deal tbh

[hater]

https://twitter.com/joshuaw29811011/status/1263889169111232514?s=21

:lmao

[Nathan89]

We're talking about your infantilizing them. Is that a problem?

The problem is Dems trying to create a cult based on skin color.

[Nathan89]

disappointing but not that big of a deal tbh

Expected response tbh

[Reck]

are you stupid?

he clearly said Beat Joe Biden

why would he say be joe biden? that doesnt even make any fucking sense


1263806619261054976

Well are you? Stupid? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

The problem is Dems trying to create a cult based on skin color.As opposed to one based on white grievance.

[Nathan89]

As opposed to one based on white grievance.

As opposed to your spin on anti-white racism? Yes.

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/mrhudock/status/1263891197367631875?s=21

[ChumpDumper]

As opposed to your spin on anti-white racism? Yes.:lol There's that white grievance, right on cue.

[Nathan89]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/mrhudock/status/1263891197367631875?s=21

And the media will be in lockstep protecting their candidate.

[Trill Clinton]

Expected response tbh

Thanks. I'm one of the few here to call it like it is. no fluff no bias.

[hater]

Thanks. I'm one of the few here to call it like it is. no fluff no bias.

nonbiased would say both trump and biden are shitstains

nonbiased you are not mon niga

[Reck]

And the media will be in lockstep protecting their candidate.

What is there to protect? Biden can say he misspoke and apologize and move on.

[Trill Clinton]

nonbiased would say both trump and biden are shitstains

nonbiased you are not mon niga

I wanted Bernie to win fam. it is what it is. i am not voting trump.

[Spurminator]

Sounds like Nathan thinks black people are too dumb to think for themselves. Like, if not for the Dems callously brainwashing blacks into voting for them, those votes would go to the party currently favored by the KKK.

[Chris]

damage control is here! :lol


https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1263847602736508928?s=19

[Chris]

And the media will be in lockstep protecting their candidate.

^called it

[ChumpDumper]

damage control is here! :lol


https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1263847602736508928?s=193% and falling.

Sad.

[Reck]

Bot alert

[Reck]

Do we really buy that Biden has even less support from blacks than Hillary? Lol

[SnakeBoy]

I'm just waiting for Biden's watermelon joke

[Chris]

don't forget this doozy hater :lmao

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1263860104266301440?s=19

[Chris]

Do we really buy that Biden has even less support from blacks than Hillary? Lol

NPCs always refer to themselves as "we". Pretty funny :lol

[Spurminator]

Got to say, it's hard to start with 7% support in any demo and lose 4 ppts from that in a month. At 7% you're already down to some pretty stubborn, staunch supporters.

[Reck]

NPCs always refer to themselves as "we". Pretty funny :lol

Since you believe it, I’m including myself and the rest of the people on this thread. In case you missed it, it was a question meant for the people posting in this thread. Thus, we.

[hater]

I wanted Bernie to win fam. it is what it is. i am not voting trump.

neither am I

I also rooted for Bernie as well

but saying is no big deal that Biden is a dementia ridden raging mummy is definitely biased

[Chris]

Since you believe it, I’m including myself and the rest of the people on this thread. In case you missed it, it was a question meant for the people posting in this thread. Thus, we.

ok boomer

[Nathan89]

Sounds like Nathan thinks black people are too dumb to think for themselves. Like, if not for the Dems callously brainwashing blacks into voting for them, those votes would go to the party currently favored by the KKK.

The KKK is consists of only a few thousand Americans they are irrelevant. They would logically vote for a perfectly neutral party over the Dems. Therefore, your statement is evidence of nothing. This is the nonsense they use to manipulate you.

[Reck]

ok boomer

You’re twice my age.

[Chris]

He wasn't lying :lol

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew/status/1263810546727555073?s=19

[Reck]

The KKK is consists of only a few thousand Americans they are irrelevant. They would logically vote for a perfectly neutral party over the Dems. Therefore, your statement is evidence of nothing. This is the nonsense they use to manipulate you.

They run over and kill people with their cars. But are highly logical people.

-Nathan

[Chris]

They run over and kill people with their cars. But are highly logical people.

-Nathan

this is so asinine :lol

God bless the forum dunce tbh

[ducks]

African-American Pastor: Trump 'Most Pro-black President in My Lifetime'
darrell scott in a black suit and red shirt speaking at the rnc at a podium

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/mercedesschlapp/status/1263837129026818049?s=19

[Nathan89]

They run over and kill people with their cars. But are highly logical people.

-Nathan

I'm not even sure if the KKK demo has a higher murder rate than the black American demo. Regardless I'd say very few of them have killed anyone. Rendering your comment irrelevant. Lastly Dems are the dumbasses that seek the input of murderers.

[dbreiden83080]

I think he's right LOL..

[boutons_deux]

badly phrased, but Joe is right. How can any black support a life-long racist?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/HotepJesus/status/1263857906996445184?s=19

[Reck]

African-American Pastor: Trump 'Most Pro-black President in My Lifetime'
darrell scott in a black suit and red shirt speaking at the rnc at a podium


https://twitter.com/mercedesschlapp/status/1263837129026818049?s=19

Look at all the desperate grovelling going on by the party of hate. :cry dems are racist, pls come to the one where we actually want you in chains. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/HotepJesus/status/1263857906996445184?s=19All the black people who support Trump fit in the Oval Office.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/olivertraldi/status/1263879820699504643?s=20

They don't just treat blacks like sheep tbh. If they see someone move from their "herd" they run after them like a damn sheep dog. They are experts in scaring their sheep herd.

[Nathan89]

I think he's right LOL..

You think someone loses their skin color based on how they vote? Try not voting.

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/olivertraldi/status/1263879820699504643?s=20

They don't just treat blacks like sheep tbh. If they see someone move from their "herd" they run after them like a damn sheep dog. They are experts in scaring their sheep herd.

So like conservative do the fake evangelicals then?

Nathan, both parties do that. Non winnable arguments here by you.

[Reck]

You think someone loses their skin color based on how they vote? Try not voting.

And BOOM. There you have it.

You dont care about the actual black folks or that even Biden said it. Your only goal here is to supress their vote by encouraging to stay home instead.

How's that any better than what Biden just said?

[Spurminator]

The KKK is consists of only a few thousand Americans they are irrelevant. They would logically vote for a perfectly neutral party over the Dems. Therefore, your statement is evidence of nothing. This is the nonsense they use to manipulate you.

Nathan, you regularly post tweets by insignificant fringe liberals with 500 followers as evidence that the left is a cancer, so don't insult my intelligence by pretending you think the KKK is too fringe to be relevant.

There are policy reasons that white supremacists vote Republican today. And there are policy reasons that blacks favor when they vote for Democrats. You wouldn't understand because you think they're too stupid to vote on policy. You think their voting habits are influenced by brainwashing and peer pressure.

[dbreiden83080]

You think someone loses their skin color based on how they vote? Try not voting.

I think Trump is a proven Fucking Racist..

[Nathan89]

And BOOM. There you have it.

You dont care about the actual black folks or that even Biden said it. Your only goal here is to supress their vote by encouraging to stay home instead.

How's that any better than what Biden just said?

How is me telling that idiot not vote because he chimed in with pure idiocy me trying to suppress the vote?

And there is no connection between that comment towards an individual and the overall content/motivation in the other comments in this thread.

[Nathan89]

I think Trump is a proven Fucking Racist..

That is irrelevant.

[Chris]

I think Trump is a proven Fucking Racist..

lol

[Chris]

I envision an IRL conversation going like this:

"Trump is a proven racist!"

"ok show me some proof"

"Fucking google it!"

:lol

[Nathan89]

Nathan, you regularly post tweets by insignificant fringe liberals with 500 followers as evidence that the left is a cancer, so don't insult my intelligence by pretending you think the KKK is too fringe to be relevant.

There are policy reasons that white supremacists vote Republican today. And there are policy reasons that blacks favor when they vote for Democrats. You wouldn't understand because you think they're too stupid to vote on policy. You think their voting habits are influenced by brainwashing and peer pressure.

No, I do not regularly post stuff from people with 500 followers.

There are reasons for the white supremacists would not vote Democrats. One of which is they want people to vote based on race. Further they want open borders to take full advantage of their toxic ideology.

[Chris]

I want to hear more about the "policy reasons" from the board intellectual.

[Trill Clinton]

African-American Pastor: Trump 'Most Pro-black President in My Lifetime'
darrell scott in a black suit and red shirt speaking at the rnc at a podium

nobody listens to that fake pastor darrell scott.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1263873776770375681?s=20

I don't need to post tweets from people with 500 followers as evidence of the Dems cancerous ideology. The evidence of that is pretty mainstream.

[dbreiden83080]

That is irrelevant.

You voting for Trump??

[Trill Clinton]

Fake Christian chris in here trying to call Biden out for his comments to blacks, when just yesterday he called a black man a "ebonics speaking hoodrat":lol


Got em

[Spurminator]

No, I do not regularly post stuff from people with 500 followers.

You take fringe examples of the left to indict the entire left. It happens on both sides, but don't act like you're above it and also pretend the KKK wouldn't meet your definition of relevance if they were a leftist group.


There are reasons for the white supremacists would not vote Democrats.

Sounds like you've given this some thought.


One of which is they want people to vote based on race.

Or not. Maybe give this some more thought so your take isn't insultingly oversimplified.


Further they want open borders to take full advantage of their toxic ideology.

Explain how this works. And try not to use meaningless buzzphrases like "open borders." It just makes you sound like angry, stupid person. Which specific immigration policies do you align with white supremacists on?

[ElNono]

:lol If this would be POTUS, we'll have Chris post Ben Shapiro spin on this, on how he's trying to siphon votes from the undecided white Republican voter, 4D chess, etc...

Old Joe is fortunate he's running against a unabashedly white supremacist coalition, tbh

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1263873776770375681?s=20

I don't need to post tweets from people with 500 followers as evidence of the Dems cancerous ideology. The evidence of that is pretty mainstream.

No you just need to pull a tweet out of context and infer its meaning, even when the writer has told you plainly what she meant.

You're so persecuted.

[Chris]

Fake Christian chris in here trying to call Biden out for his comments to blacks, when just yesterday he called a black man a "ebonics speaking hoodrat":lol


Got em

I call a spade a spade.

Got em.

[Chris]

:lol If this would be POTUS, we'll have Chris post Ben Shapiro spin on this, on how he's trying to siphon votes from the undecided white Republican voter, 4D chess, etc...

Old Joe is fortunate he's running against a unabashedly white supremacist coalition, tbh

This thread is about Joe Biden, whataboutery and hyperbole withstanding.

[ElNono]

This thread is about Joe Biden, whataboutery and hyperbole withstanding.

I was addressing Joe biden's comment, Chris

[Trill Clinton]

I'm a racist

facts

[spurraider21]

Biden's comments were bad. He's a flawed candidate.

I don't think his comments have changed my mind in that I believe his policies would be less damaging than Trump's from 2020-2024.

[TimDunkem]

can u imagine if trump had said that?

:lmao

and that poor black uncle tom took it like a bitch

never liked that guy tbqh

although I heard he was supporting bernie
Nah I'm pretty sure he was all in on Booty Judge back in Feb. :lmao

[DMX7]

Good people on both sides

[Nathan89]

Good people on both sides

Another victim of the propaganda arm of the democratic party.

[Reck]

Another victim of the propaganda arm of the democratic party.

How can that be when Trump was the inventor of that shtick?

[Chris]

Another victim of the propaganda arm of the democratic party.

poor fella

[Reck]

What is there to protect? Biden can say he misspoke and apologize and move on.

1263917740273946624

Well, it went just like I expected. Nut up, accept the fuck up, apologize.

[Chris]

Reckbot posting tweets now

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/98163649_134020598260949_7327615180827787264_n.png ?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=mDWVDH4Nif8AX8CyvrN&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=0c9cd0de254401338bac2550f269640b&oe=5EEC14AB

[GAustex]

Righty says that
And then
Apologizes
“It’s all good”
?

[Reck]

Reckbot posting tweets now

:lol I dont think that has quite the same ring as Chrisbot.

[vy65]

That's how you kill a talking point. Fuck up, apologize, and now we move on.

[Nathan89]

That's how you kill a talking point. Fuck up, apologize, and now we move on.

That's how it works for Dems.

[Nathan89]

Biden fucked up by revealing his opinion. He still holds that stance but let's not let that concern is. Fortunately he'll continue to be blatant about how they try to herd their voters like sheep because he doesn't have the brain capacity to be subtle anymore.

[ChumpDumper]

That's how it works for Dems.

When has anyone on the right actually apologized?

[ChumpDumper]

Biden fucked up by revealing his opinion. He still holds that stance but let's not let that concern is. Fortunately he'll continue to be blatant about how they try to herd their voters like sheep because he doesn't have the brain capacity to be subtle anymore.

You're the smart one insulting the intelligence of minorities.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/abelbc85/status/1263959867448086533?s=21

[hater]

:lmao Biden campaign

:lmao Biden sperm shielders :lol

https://twitter.com/scottpresler/status/1263964585490612230?s=21

[hater]

:lmao :lol

:lmao

:lmao

:lol

:lol

:lol

:lol

:lol

https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1263964122942668801?s=21

[vy65]

That's how it works for Dems.

That’s how it works for normal people. What should he have done? Go to jail?

[Reck]

Hater: I cant believe he hasn't apologized! ZOMG

Immediate post:

Hater: Biden apologizes. Proceeds to meltdown with an avalanche of emojis.

[Nathan89]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/98163649_134020598260949_7327615180827787264_n.png ?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=mDWVDH4Nif8AX8CyvrN&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=0c9cd0de254401338bac2550f269640b&oe=5EEC14AB

You are literally posting propaganda. Apologize to the forum.

[Nathan89]

You're the smart one insulting the intelligence of minorities.

They do it to women and gays as well. Them trying to herd voters like sheep isn't unique to black Americans.

[Spurminator]

That’s how it works for normal people. What should he have done? Go to jail?

He should have doubled down and set up a GoFundMe.

[Nathan89]

That’s how it works for normal people. What should he have done? Go to jail?

It's not about what should happen to him. It's about how the media responds to it.

[vy65]

It's not about what should happen to him. It's about how the media responds to it.

You have a problem with people accepting apologies? How many times has the media refused to take an apology from Trump?

[Will Hunting]

Now that the primary is over Jim Crow Joe should tone down the race baiting and get back to being the guy who appealed to working class white people.

[ChumpDumper]

They do it to women and gays as well. Them trying to herd voters like sheep isn't unique to black Americans.But you're the smart one who isn't being herded by white male grievance propaganda.

[Chris]

don't forget this doozy hater :lmao

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1263860104266301440?s=19

Did he apologize for this? ^


:lol

[Chris]

Poor kids can be just as successful as white kids."
-Joe Biden

[Nathan89]

You have a problem with people accepting apologies? How many times has the media refused to take an apology from Trump?

The media hides context to paint Trump in a certain light. Rest assured they don't care.

[vy65]

The media hides context to paint Trump in a certain light. Rest assured they don't care.

Which apology of Trump has the media hidden?

[Reck]

1263939292927275009

:lol the backfire potential of this. Cant wait for the typical 300 pound redneck to show up with one of these.

[Chris]

Which apology of Trump has the media hidden?

straw man faggot alert^

[Chris]

Poor kids can be just as successful as white kids."
-Joe Biden

[Spurtacular]

:lmao :lol

:lmao

:lmao

:lol

:lol

:lol

:lol

:lol



Five pages before I even saw this. Chumpettes taking a heavy load today. :lol

[pgardn]

Hater: I cant believe he hasn't apologized! ZOMG

Immediate post:

Hater: Biden apologizes. Proceeds to meltdown with an avalanche of emojis.

Because he is a true Trumpy.
Never admit you are wrong or make a mistake.
The public cant handle it, you must be Godlike.

You guys, this is the same hater that praises Putin and Assad.
He has not a clue as to how brutal these men are. Or if he does, he wants a dictator authoritarian. Trump wants to be that.

Biden and Trump are really sorry candidates on the whole.
Difference is Trump has proved himself IN OFFICE.
Proved himself an incompetent egomaniac, some people buy this shit.

[Chris]

This is what Nathan is talking about concerning context:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/26/joe-biden-donald-trump-charlotttesville-fine-people-neo-nazis-column/3588970002/

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1263816200334737408?s=21

:lol

[Spurtacular]

Maniacally posting tweet and he still gets it wrong. He says be joe Biden, not beat.

He says beat, tranny. Come to terms.

[Spurtacular]

3% and falling.

Sad.

Joe's basement campaign is working; amirite?

[ducks]

Trump will get atleast 12 percent of black vote in nov

[Nathan89]

https://youtu.be/8b7jjdRaChg


Btw Dems herd their white sheep by declaring people racist, white supremacists, and far right. They have these white leftists in the fetal position. It's why they are the only group with an outgroup bias.

[ChumpDumper]

Joe's basement campaign is working; amirite?Whatever Trump is doing there is failing.

[ChumpDumper]

https://youtu.be/8b7jjdRaChg


Btw Dems herd their white sheep by declaring people racist, white supremacists, and far right. They have these white leftists in the fetal position. It's why they are the only group with an outgroup bias.You're not racist?

[Spurtacular]

Whatever Trump is doing there is failing.

:cry Muh fake polls told muh so :cry

[Trill Clinton]

He apologized. I called it

[GAustex]

he said it

[hater]

He apologized. I called it

:lmao

u said it was no big deal

he had to apologize thus was a big deal

[DMC]

:lmao

u said it was no big deal

he had to apologize thus was a big deal

It shows Joe's mentality. He actually believes that black people must vote for a democrat because historically they have. So if you vote for a republican, even Trump, you're not really black. This reinforces the notion that the left takes the black vote for granted, and folks like Shill Clinton who uncle Tom for him make it worse.

Don Imus apologized, was rode out of town on a rail regardless.

[rmt]

I fail to see why AAs are such devoted supporters of the Dem party which is against school choice. That probably is one of the major reasons for education/income disparity. Why would ANYONE NOT prefer the choice of going to a better school instead of being stuck in BAD neighborhood schools?

[DMC]

I fail to see why AAs are such devoted supporters of the Dem party which is against school choice. That probably is one of the major reasons for education/income disparity. Why would ANYONE NOT prefer the choice of going to a better school instead of being stuck in BAD neighborhood schools?

The goal should be to rectify the problems in the schools, not to move people to better schools.

[Reck]

The goal should be to rectify the problems in the schools, not to move people to better schools.

Hey, look I agree with you for once.

[boutons_deux]

I fail to see why AAs are such devoted supporters of the Dem party which is against school choice. That probably is one of the major reasons for education/income disparity. Why would ANYONE NOT prefer the choice of going to a better school instead of being stuck in BAD neighborhood schools?

for-profit charter schools esp in the red/slave states, where they got started early, are a blatant strategy of re-segregation.

[Trill Clinton]

:lmao

u said it was no big deal

he had to apologize thus was a big deal

I also said in the other thread that he will apologize. Called it like negrodamus.

[Trainwreck2100]

Just a stupid fucking thing to say as black people have two options, vote Biden or staying home, Trump ain't doing shit to win them so his only option is a 2016 depress the vote strategy.

[vy65]

straw man faggot alert^

^^ straight up fagget alert

[Nathan89]

The goal should be to rectify the problems in the schools, not to move people to better schools.

No. We should have a voucher system which creates competition which will rectify the problems in the schools. Otherwise the schools will continue to be trash.

[Nathan89]

I fail to see why AAs are such devoted supporters of the Dem party which is against school choice. That probably is one of the major reasons for education/income disparity. Why would ANYONE NOT prefer the choice of going to a better school instead of being stuck in BAD neighborhood schools?

Dems being in bed with the teachers union will prevent that from happening.

[ChumpDumper]

No. We should have a voucher system which creates competition which will rectify the problems in the schools. Otherwise the schools will continue to be trash.Why are some public schools really good without a voucher program?

[ElNono]

No. We should have a voucher system which creates competition which will rectify the problems in the schools. Otherwise the schools will continue to be trash.

you want a model like colleges where 'competition' has only driven tuition up, indebted students, and only helps segregate the lower and higher classes more? well, of course you do.

[Nathan89]

Why are some public schools really good without a voucher program?

There are many factors. Competition has the ability maximize output though. Just look at the waste of money the public schools spend on foreign languages which leads to basically zero output. They put every student through two years of nonsense and they learn basically nothing. Competition could remove the waste that the current education system refuses to remove.

[Nathan89]

you want a model like colleges where 'competition' has only driven tuition up, indebted students, and only helps segregate the lower and higher classes more? well, of course you do.

I'd expect a higher floor and ceiling.

[ChumpDumper]

There are many factors. Competition has the ability maximize output though. Just look at the waste of money the public schools spend on foreign languages which leads to basically zero output. They put every student through two years of nonsense and they learn basically nothing. Competition could remove the waste that the current education system refuses to remove.Why are some public schools really good without a voucher program and the competition?

[DMC]

The goal should be to rectify the problems in the schools, not to move people to better schools.


No. We should have a voucher system which creates competition which will rectify the problems in the schools. Otherwise the schools will continue to be trash.

Seriously?

[ElNono]

I'd expect a higher floor and ceiling.

If your standards are expressed in what you post, I would also expect a higher floor and ceiling, tbh...

[Spurminator]

No. We should have a voucher system which creates competition which will rectify the problems in the schools. Otherwise the schools will continue to be trash.

Still amazing that you were a Bernie supporter. I'm not sure I even believe that was ever the case. Unless you've done nothing but study Republican Talking Points for the past three years, there's no way you were ever a liberal.

[SnakeBoy]

The goal should be to rectify the problems in the schools, not to move people to better schools.

Allowing choice would rectify the problems in bad schools is the theory.

[Nathan89]

Seriously?


Allowing choice would rectify the problems in bad schools is the theory.

[Spurminator]

Allowing choice would rectify the problems in bad schools is the theory.

How does removing the kids who are in more financially capable homes rectify problems in bad schools?

Trickle Down Education?

[Spurminator]

Anyway back to Biden. It's undoubtedly a stupid thing to say. I would love to have a choice this November that didn't involve choosing from one of two candidates who are prone to saying stupid things but at least one of those candidates appears to be inhostile to the concept of apologizing.

[DMC]

Allowing choice would rectify the problems in bad schools is the theory.

Only would be true if public schools were private businesses. If the schools are shitty because of poor policies in the schools, that can be changed without vouchers. If they are shitty because of the students, that's part of a bigger issue. Vouchers won't solve that. It would only make the schools even more broke and have fewer resources.

The solution to starving kids isn't to take away their funding and hope someone changes for the better "The beatings will continue here until the morale improves!"

[SnakeBoy]

How does removing the kids who are in more financially capable homes rectify problems in bad schools?


At a minimum it allows those kids to get a better education. That's better than the throw more money at it approach which has failed time and again.


Only would be true if public schools were private businesses. If the schools are shitty because of poor policies in the schools, that can be changed without vouchers. If they are shitty because of the students, that's part of a bigger issue. Vouchers won't solve that. It would only make the schools even more broke and have fewer resources.

The solution to starving kids isn't to take away their funding and hope someone changes for the better "The beatings will continue here until the morale improves!"

Well your argument is just "The beatings will continue". There is no magic policy, why make good kids suffer the consequences of other kids having shitty situations?

[ChumpDumper]

At a minimum it allows those kids to get a better education. That's better than the throw more money at it approach which has failed time and again.



Well your argument is just "The beatings will continue". There is no magic policy, why make good kids suffer the consequences of other kids having shitty situations?Why are there good schools outside the competitive system? What are they doing right?

[boutons_deux]

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[Trainwreck2100]

you want a model like colleges where 'competition' has only driven tuition up, indebted students, and only helps segregate the lower and higher classes more? well, of course you do.

Not to mention a system like that is just asking for rampant cheating if the system through cheating and putting your thumb on the scale

[SnakeBoy]

you want a model like colleges where 'competition' has only driven tuition up, indebted students, and only helps segregate the lower and higher classes more? well, of course you do.

Which colleges use a voucher system?

[Spurminator]

At a minimum it allows those kids to get a better education. That's better than the throw more money at it approach which has failed time and again.

That didn't answer the question, nor did it support your previous statement. Again, how do vouchers help bad schools?

What you're saying here is that kids who get vouchers will be better off. No shit. Congratulations, you've just registered support for welfare.

[ElNono]

Which colleges use a voucher system?

They use scholarships, which really is not that different when it comes to an entity subsidizing tuition.

[dbestpro]

Let's push the reset button. So far most things that have been done to make life better for inner city minorities has not worked. So, what should we do? What is the agreed upon objective? Is it education, opportunity, safety, all of it or something else?

[SnakeBoy]

That didn't answer the question, nor did it support your previous statement. Again, how do vouchers help bad schools?

What you're saying here is that kids who get vouchers will be better off. No shit. Congratulations, you've just registered support for welfare.

I've always supported welfare

[DMC]

At a minimum it allows those kids to get a better education. That's better than the throw more money at it approach which has failed time and again.



Well your argument is just "The beatings will continue". There is no magic policy, why make good kids suffer the consequences of other kids having shitty situations?

I'm not willing to give up on kids.

[Spurminator]

I've always supported welfare

Great. Same here. The difference is welfare supports the people at the very bottom. Vouchers help a small percentage at the top of the poverty set and leave the rest (and their schools) in a worse place. It's counterproductive to the idea of helping bad schools.

[SnakeBoy]

Great. Same here. The difference is welfare supports the people at the very bottom. Vouchers help a small percentage at the top of the poverty set and leave the rest (and their schools) in a worse place. It's counterproductive to the idea of helping bad schools.

lol vouchers only help the wealthiest poor people


I'm not willing to give up on kids.

Let them all suffer equally generation after generation until we find the perfect answer...so noble :cry

[Trill Clinton]

Trump will get atleast 12 percent of black vote in nov

Black unemployment is at almost 17% and the Rona is kicking our ass. He will not get more than 2% of the black vote

[Spurminator]

lol vouchers only help the wealthiest poor people

Laugh at semantics if you want but that's how it works. It's like giving food stamps to only the top 30 percentile of the segment who currently qualifies for food stamps.

It's fine if that's really your objective, just own it and don't hide behind a bullshit "Vouchers help bad schools" hypothetical that you can't support.

[ElNono]

Laugh at semantics if you want but that's how it works. It's like giving food stamps to only the top 30 percentile of the segment who currently qualifies for food stamps.

It's fine if that's really your objective, just own it and don't hide behind a bullshit "Vouchers help bad schools" hypothetical that you can't support.

Also goes without saying that 'bad' school is almost always still miles better than no school at all. That's another problem vouchers don't solve.

Starving schools for cash is not how you make them better, it's simply better oversight and leadership.

[Trill Clinton]

https://youtu.be/3-bErTVHGRs

[Reck]

https://youtu.be/3-bErTVHGRs

He doesn’t owe it to Biden or democrats at all but he definitely owes a vote to the country to save it. Biden is merely the individual one needs to cast a vote for.

Sitting this election out is not an option. Same as voting for the other worse guy.

Trump knows he is not getting the black vote so instead he’s already working to get them to sit it out. It’s cute watching him talk about Democrats not caring about black people as if he does. Lol

[Spurtacular]

https://youtu.be/3-bErTVHGRs

You're not ridin' with Biden?

[hater]

https://youtu.be/3-bErTVHGRs

called it

[LGBTQIAPK & G-D]

He doesn’t owe it to Biden or democrats at all but he definitely owes a vote to the country to save it. Biden is merely the individual one needs to cast a vote for.

Sitting this election out is not an option. Same as voting for the other worse guy.

Trump knows he is not getting the black vote so instead he’s already working to get them to sit it out. It’s cute watching him talk about Democrats not caring about black people as if he does. Lol

Hundred percent agree. Zombie neocon puppet is our only hope at saving us from the bad orange man!

You wok, trans man.

https://c7.uihere.com/files/412/48/1004/gurnee-pony-nazi-party-nazi-salute-drawing-hitler-thumb.jpg

[Trill Clinton]

You're not ridin' with Biden?

I'm not voting for trump

[Spurtacular]

I'm not voting for trump

Not voting for Biden is ridin' with Trump. :lol

[ducks]

I fail to see why AAs are such devoted supporters of the Dem party which is against school choice. That probably is one of the major reasons for education/income disparity. Why would ANYONE NOT prefer the choice of going to a better school instead of being stuck in BAD neighborhood schools?

[Trill Clinton]

Republicans don't do anything at all for AA's but scream about Chicago and lump us all into the poor category.

rmt

[rmt]

Republicans don't do anything at all for AA's but scream about Chicago and lump us all into the poor category.

rmt

And who is it that screams about income inequality? The best way out of poverty is education and yet AAs overwhelming support Dems/public schools instead of Rep/school choice which would at least give them other educational options.

[Trill Clinton]

And who is it that screams about income inequality? The best way out of poverty is education and yet AAs overwhelming support Dems/public schools instead of Rep/school choice which would at least give them other educational options.

Black people are not a monolith. Why should we vote for Republicans? Convince me? All trump could muster was "what do you have to lose?" And we got a 17% unemployment rate and Corona deaths in return.

[ChumpDumper]

And who is it that screams about income inequality? The best way out of poverty is education and yet AAs overwhelming support Dems/public schools instead of Rep/school choice which would at least give them other educational options.What happens when the school one wants to go to is full?

[rmt]

Black people are not a monolith. Why should we vote for Republicans? Convince me? All trump could muster was "what do you have to lose?" And we got a 17% unemployment rate and Corona deaths in return.

Well, they certainly vote like one:
By contrast, African American voters remain overwhelmingly Democratic: 84% identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party. Just 8% of black voters identify in some way with the Republican Party - https://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/

Education remains the best chance one has of earning more. Instead of backing of the teachers unions/bad schools, there should be free competition among schools and choice in which school to attend. That way bad teachers get fired, bad schools shut down and the good schools/teachers thrive (we do not waste good money thrown after bad schools/teachers) - just like any other product, you get to choose and the bad products go out of business. I am a firm believer in that the money should follow the student.

Please, are you really blaming Trump for the 17% unemployment and Corona deaths when he followed Fausci/Birk's advice? And it's the Dems who want to continue shutdowns?

[rmt]

What happens when the school one wants to go to is full?

Here in South Florida, one can apply on a yearly basis to multiple magnet and unlimited charter schools. Students are chosen by lottery with waiting lists if schools are full. Siblings of students already in a school get preference (for ease of transportation, PTA, etc.).

[ChumpDumper]

Here in South Florida, one can apply on a yearly basis to multiple magnet and unlimited charter schools. Students are chosen by lottery with waiting lists if schools are full. Siblings of students already in a school get preference (for ease of transportation, PTA, etc.).So they just don't get in unless they're lucky.

[rmt]

So they just don't get in unless they're lucky.

Every student has an equal chance and can apply to multiple magnets (5 iirc) and UNLIMITED charters - You are going to get in somewhere if you apply widely.

[rmt]

Not based on ZIP CODE/neighborhood you can afford to live in. When you choose, then you are withdrawn from other schools' lists and everyone on waiting lists get bumped up.

[ChumpDumper]

Every student has an equal chance and can apply to multiple magnets (5 iirc) and UNLIMITED charters - You are going to get in somewhere if you apply widely.What if those other ones suck?

[ElNono]

Education remains the best chance one has of earning more.

This is demonstrably false, though, at the very least misleading. Statistically, your best chance of earning more is a mix of socioeconomic conditions growing up, what family you were born into, your gender and race, education level attained, etc.