Pop on Trump, Cruz and more.

[baseline bum]

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[Atl Spur]

Good ole tholdren........ hey buddy

[ElNono]

FACTS MATTER.
Which per par you have ZERO of.

I'm pointing out you posted an opinion piece. Review the link you posted, and I replied to, and apologize to me afterwards. thanks

[ElNono]

I know its actual READING,not social media sheeple stuff but its full of FACTS
Ya know the kind collected by state and Fed agencies,FBI,BJS etc...

[URL="https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883"]https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883


That's another opinion piece.

[Sugus]

Hilarious thread, ST does it again. So nice to see all the posters who have been proven absolutely, undeniably wrong, try to sweep it up under the rug, and come on other threads to spew their shit takes, like anyone forgot they were just dunk'd on by a virus. Some idiot troll posters on this site, really. Just want to point out one comment;


Anyone with an iota of streetball and common basketball sense could see that the Warriors, and undoubtedly Zaza were going to try to cheap shot. A good, even an average coach would have been warning Kwa to be extremely careful if that fucking Zaza was anywhere 10 feet from him while shooting. No it's not hindsight. I said it to the gang watching the game at the time.

Otherwise yes, the game plan vs the Warriors was great and Gregg was well on his way with another MVP on the court.

How exactly do you think Pop could have prevented what happened to Kawhi? "Hey 'whi, try not jumping on your jumpshots, just in case a GSW player purposefully steps under your landing zone. Oh, and try not to dunk or layup the ball, since they might want to tackle you down to the floor. Oh, and don't be too close on defense, they might want to throw some elbows and dirty moves..."?

Pop had a good season that year. Shit happens. Don't understand why some posters can't seem to give an ounce of credit where it's due, and needlessly pull others down.

[Frenchfred]

2x the flu no extra fatalities. Give your diploma back.

two times the flu with confinement, you understand that, right? Anyway, all of those who talking about few cases 3 months arguing that it was not a big deal should take a seat back right now. They were wrong just like the president

[ducks]

It took LeBron James twenty minutes to rip Drew Brees for his opinion on the national anthem yet he still hasn’t said a word in months about his buddies in China putting Hong Kong protesters in jail for three years if they disrespect the anthem there. Fascinating





Still waiting to here pop on China
Oh wait that might cost him a penny

[ducks]

Obama made no change with the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown & Eric Garner during his presidency. How long have Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden been in office & they have not changed anything? All they do is lie and try to divide our country every chance they get

[Atl Spur]

Obama made no change with the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown & Eric Garner during his presidency. How long have Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden been in office & they have not changed anything? All they do is lie and try to divide our country every chance they get

Let me just pull your card, you r a sucker! Please bring yo a-s to Atlanta so we get perspective from the horses mouth���� You won’t will you..........Scary a-s! Coward......stay behind that keyboard. Thing about me is, I can operate in any environment clown!

[Atl Spur]

The inner city awaits��

[Atl Spur]

Ducks, I got all the box’s checked in this rigged game; my great grandparents were slaves but they made sure this day would come by paying for it with their lives! So I say again......let’s talk & hash it out on a message board.��

[Atl Spur]

Bring ole Nathan with you......

[Extra Stout]

So let’s say you’re white, and you’ve finally decided enough is enough and you want fundamental change so that minorities get treated like full citizens. You should be aware of what you’re up against.

There are 40 to 50 million white people who are convinced that keeping whites in power is a prerequisite for the United States to remain a wealthy, developed country. If forced to choose between democracy and white supremacy, they will choose the latter, employing however much force is necessary to keep it that way, against whomever stands in their way.

There are an additional 10 million whites who know that the end of white supremacy would cause them and their families to fall from relative affluence to Appalachian-style poverty. The McMichaels in Georgia are an example. They would do anything, up to and including carrying out a Final Solution to the Black Question, to keep that from happening.

They may be outnumbered 4 to 1, but on the other hand they’ve spent decades stockpiling assault weapons, infiltrating law enforcement and the military, and quietly constructing parallel lines of authority in preparation for these days. These aren’t Charlottesville doofuses with Tiki torches.

And Trump already came *this close* to mobilizing the military to go after citizens. Only right before it was a go did the old brass speak up. A Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley is going to be a lot smoother and cleverer if they ever get in power, because they’ll actually know what they’re doing and have a plan.

[Extra Stout]

So let’s say you’re white, and you’ve finally decided enough is enough and you want fundamental change so that minorities get treated like full citizens. You should be aware of what you’re up against.

There are 40 to 50 million white people who are convinced that keeping whites in power is a prerequisite for the United States to remain a wealthy, developed country. If forced to choose between democracy and white supremacy, they will choose the latter, employing however much force is necessary to keep it that way, against whomever stands in their way.

There are an additional 10 million whites who know that the end of white supremacy would cause them and their families to fall from relative affluence to Appalachian-style poverty. The McMichaels in Georgia are an example. They would do anything, up to and including carrying out a Final Solution to the Black Question, to keep that from happening.

They may be outnumbered 4 to 1, but on the other hand they’ve spent decades stockpiling assault weapons, infiltrating law enforcement and the military, and quietly constructing parallel lines of authority in preparation for these days. These aren’t Charlottesville doofuses with Tiki torches.

And Trump already came *this close* to mobilizing the military to go after citizens. Only right before it was a go did the old brass speak up. A Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley is going to be a lot smoother and cleverer if they ever get in power, because they’ll actually know what they’re doing and have a plan.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Let me just pull your card, you r a sucker! Please bring yo a-s to Atlanta so we get perspective from the horses mouth���� You won’t will you..........Scary a-s! Coward......stay behind that keyboard. Thing about me is, I can operate in any environment clown!says the guy speaking from a keyboard.:rollin

[Nathan89]

If Pop cared about anything he'd expose the BLM movement for the sham that it is. It's a movement built on lies. These people are manipulated by Dems and media to achieve their political agenda. They do the same thing with women and the "pay gap".

[Nathan89]

Obama made no change with the deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown & Eric Garner during his presidency. How long have Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden been in office & they have not changed anything? All they do is lie and try to divide our country every chance they get

Hard to change things when the narrative is built on lies tbh.

[ElNono]

So let’s say you’re white, and you’ve finally decided enough is enough and you want fundamental change so that minorities get treated like full citizens. You should be aware of what you’re up against.

There are 40 to 50 million white people who are convinced that keeping whites in power is a prerequisite for the United States to remain a wealthy, developed country. If forced to choose between democracy and white supremacy, they will choose the latter, employing however much force is necessary to keep it that way, against whomever stands in their way.

There are an additional 10 million whites who know that the end of white supremacy would cause them and their families to fall from relative affluence to Appalachian-style poverty. The McMichaels in Georgia are an example. They would do anything, up to and including carrying out a Final Solution to the Black Question, to keep that from happening.

They may be outnumbered 4 to 1, but on the other hand they’ve spent decades stockpiling assault weapons, infiltrating law enforcement and the military, and quietly constructing parallel lines of authority in preparation for these days. These aren’t Charlottesville doofuses with Tiki torches.

And Trump already came *this close* to mobilizing the military to go after citizens. Only right before it was a go did the old brass speak up. A Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley is going to be a lot smoother and cleverer if they ever get in power, because they’ll actually know what they’re doing and have a plan.

It always been about balance of power. It's sad and hilarious at the same time to see the million of excuses from your average NAdolph89, but at the end of the day is all about that fear of losing the upper hand.

After 300-400 years, they still have the upper hand, despite they've lost ground through slavery first, after being the giant losers in the Civil War, then the fight against the right to vote for colored people and women, then some more during the Civil Rights movement.

And it's going to continue to be chipped away gradually, because it's wrong, and they know it's wrong. That's why I don't particularly care much about the armed white supremacist argument, because they can't possibly win hearts and minds in the long run.

Will they eventually panic and might get ugly for a while? sure. But, IMO, we're moving towards an inevitable righting of a wrong, that frankly took too long.

[Nathan89]

Some people can't argue a topic so they invent motive.

[ElNono]

Some people can't argue a topic so they invent motive.

Was that directed to me?

[Atl Spur]

says the guy speaking from a keyboard.:rollin

Invitation issued; all the emojis in the world don’t fly here.

[Atl Spur]

So let’s say you’re white, and you’ve finally decided enough is enough and you want fundamental change so that minorities get treated like full citizens. You should be aware of what you’re up against.

There are 40 to 50 million white people who are convinced that keeping whites in power is a prerequisite for the United States to remain a wealthy, developed country. If forced to choose between democracy and white supremacy, they will choose the latter, employing however much force is necessary to keep it that way, against whomever stands in their way.

There are an additional 10 million whites who know that the end of white supremacy would cause them and their families to fall from relative affluence to Appalachian-style poverty. The McMichaels in Georgia are an example. They would do anything, up to and including carrying out a Final Solution to the Black Question, to keep that from happening.

They may be outnumbered 4 to 1, but on the other hand they’ve spent decades stockpiling assault weapons, infiltrating law enforcement and the military, and quietly constructing parallel lines of authority in preparation for these days. These aren’t Charlottesville doofuses with Tiki torches.

And Trump already came *this close* to mobilizing the military to go after citizens. Only right before it was a go did the old brass speak up. A Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley is going to be a lot smoother and cleverer if they ever get in power, because they’ll actually know what they’re doing and have a plan.


Wild times!

[exstatic]

So let’s say you’re white, and you’ve finally decided enough is enough and you want fundamental change so that minorities get treated like full citizens. You should be aware of what you’re up against.

There are 40 to 50 million white people who are convinced that keeping whites in power is a prerequisite for the United States to remain a wealthy, developed country. If forced to choose between democracy and white supremacy, they will choose the latter, employing however much force is necessary to keep it that way, against whomever stands in their way.

There are an additional 10 million whites who know that the end of white supremacy would cause them and their families to fall from relative affluence to Appalachian-style poverty. The McMichaels in Georgia are an example. They would do anything, up to and including carrying out a Final Solution to the Black Question, to keep that from happening.

They may be outnumbered 4 to 1, but on the other hand they’ve spent decades stockpiling assault weapons, infiltrating law enforcement and the military, and quietly constructing parallel lines of authority in preparation for these days. These aren’t Charlottesville doofuses with Tiki torches.

And Trump already came *this close* to mobilizing the military to go after citizens. Only right before it was a go did the old brass speak up. A Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley is going to be a lot smoother and cleverer if they ever get in power, because they’ll actually know what they’re doing and have a plan.

I might have bought your argument before the pandemic, but these people couldn’t even hold out against closed nail salons and carry out only Cheesecake Factory. Nearly every one of them are like the Duck Dynasty family, yahoos and hicks that dress up to play a part. They’ll come apart like tissue paper when the rubber meets the road.

[Frenchfred]

If Pop cared about anything he'd expose the BLM movement for the sham that it is. It's a movement built on lies. These people are manipulated by Dems and media to achieve their political agenda. They do the same thing with women and the "pay gap".

Like conservatives are not manipulators, Irak war anyone? When republicans manipulate, millions die.

[DMC]

Anyone comment that Pop fired George Floyd's twin brother right before the promised land of the 2013 playoffs after he worked all season to help us get there, because he wouldn't admit a white person was better than him?

[DMC]

It always been about balance of power. It's sad and hilarious at the same time to see the million of excuses from your average NAdolph89, but at the end of the day is all about that fear of losing the upper hand.

After 300-400 years, they still have the upper hand, despite they've lost ground through slavery first, after being the giant losers in the Civil War, then the fight against the right to vote for colored people and women, then some more during the Civil Rights movement.

And it's going to continue to be chipped away gradually, because it's wrong, and they know it's wrong. That's why I don't particularly care much about the armed white supremacist argument, because they can't possibly win hearts and minds in the long run.

Will they eventually panic and might get ugly for a while? sure. But, IMO, we're moving towards an inevitable righting of a wrong, that frankly took too long.

But ES is talking about strategic maneuvers and long game planning. You're talking about social media, knee jerk reactionaries who buy into narrative and have a cause O'the day calendar. These people didn't really get the bricks planted in streets and other setups that were put right in front of them by groups with more complex agendas than a feel good outing and sitting cross-legged chanting feel good phrases while live streaming.

[DMC]

Like conservatives are not manipulators, Irak war anyone? When republicans manipulate, millions die.

8 years of a democratic POTUS and Iraq was still occupied, as was GITMO. Don't act like the two sides don't lock together like legos.

[Nathan89]

Like conservatives are not manipulators, Irak war anyone? When republicans manipulate, millions die.

So you concede that Dems and the media are manipulating women and minorities to achieve their political agenda. That's shameful considering I constantly hear about minorities living in fear and that is in large part the result of Dem manipulation. That's torture.

[exstatic]

Anyone comment that Pop fired George Floyd's twin brother right before the promised land of the 2013 playoffs after he worked all season to help us get there, because he wouldn't admit a white person was better than him?

He didn’t beat him or shoot him while he was unarmed. There was also this black guy, Danny Green, involved.

Jack worked hard to F the team up by constantly complaining about his role, and literally beating the shit out of DG in practice. It’s not a coincidence that with Jack Jettisoned, DG had a world class 3 point shooting Finals.

[ElNono]

But ES is talking about strategic maneuvers and long game planning. You're talking about social media, knee jerk reactionaries who buy into narrative and have a cause O'the day calendar. These people didn't really get the bricks planted in streets and other setups that were put right in front of them by groups with more complex agendas than a feel good outing and sitting cross-legged chanting feel good phrases while live streaming.

The first line of my post was, but the rest pretty much talks about what I feel is going to happen long term. I would add social media has been a game changer in more ways than one, for good and bad, but undeniably a disruptor.

[stepmonkey]

So you concede that Dems and the media are manipulating women and minorities to achieve their political agenda.

Just like the Repubs are manipulating ignorant white people to achieve theirs.

[Nathan89]

As a minority, yes we do live in fear. And if you as a White person want to keep invalidating it then I suggest you go live in a country where you are the minority.

In fact I’ll give you an example, go stay in the local areas of Hawaii, they hate white people like yourself and it would be fantastic to see how you were treated and how you would maybe understand what people of color and minorities have been wanting.

The experience of a minority in the US isn't equivalent to me being a minority in many countries.

See I wrote the above before I looked at your example in the 2nd paragraph. Which is a terrible example. There is a reason America gets so many illegals immigrants and legal immigrants. There is a reason Asians are the highest earners. We currently have multiple billion dollar companies implementing racist policies to benefit minorities. It's really not bad to be a minority in America.

[Nathan89]

As a minority, yes we do live in fear. And if you as a White person want to keep invalidating it then I suggest you go live in a country where you are the minority.

In fact I’ll give you an example, go stay in the local areas of Hawaii, they hate white people like yourself and it would be fantastic to see how you were treated and how you would maybe understand what people of color and minorities have been wanting.

Also if you live in fear then you should hate both the media and Democrats for instilling that fear.

[BackHome]

Yeah only white people are racist smh.

[Nathan89]

I worked on Capitol Hill. Guess who were the ones that treated me with respect, dignity, and as an equal person? Democrats.

Guess who treated me like I was below them and the scum of the earth for the color of my skin? Republicans.

Maybe you should take a look in the mirror and say "I'm a racist" as many times as you can. Then you will finally be able to live with yourself instead of calling all this stuff lies.

Studies show leftists dumb down their vocabulary when speaking to black people. I'm happy that came away with the impression that they respect you.

[DMC]

He didn’t beat him or shoot him while he was unarmed. There was also this black guy, Danny Green, involved.

Jack worked hard to F the team up by constantly complaining about his role, and literally beating the shit out of DG in practice. It’s not a coincidence that with Jack Jettisoned, DG had a world class 3 point shooting Finals.

But that's basketball. Narrative don't give a shit about reality.

[Dirks_Finale]

I worked on Capitol Hill. Guess who were the ones that treated me with respect, dignity, and as an equal person? Democrats.

Guess who treated me like I was below them and the scum of the earth for the color of my skin? Republicans.

Maybe you should take a look in the mirror and say "I'm a racist" as many times as you can. Then you will finally be able to live with yourself instead of calling all this stuff lies.

And because of that you have surmised that all Republicans must be racist ? Overreact much?

[Arcadian]

As a Rockets fan it boggles my mind how a lot of ya’ll can talk shit about Pop. You’re gonna miss him when he’s finally gone

Not as much as we miss Tim, Manu, Tony, and David.

[Atl Spur]

Nathan & backhome are clowns........I’m sorry I meant cowards! Is that dumbed down enough for you? I want to embarrass you:)

[Atl Spur]

Tell us how smart you really are; some of us beat you at your own game sucker! Fear is a hell of a weapon......until they stop being scared:)

[Atl Spur]

And because of that you have surmised that all Republicans must be racist ? Overreact much?

There’s no all in anything sport but I will say the majority of the ones I’ve met are really suspect!

[Atl Spur]

8 years of a democratic POTUS and Iraq was still occupied, as was GITMO. Don't act like the two sides don't lock together like legos.

You actually take Trump serious and this version of the Republicans huh?

[Dirks_Finale]

It's funny because I know plenty of them, some Trump republicans, some not a big fan of him, and none of them seem to be racist in anyway, whatsoever.

Just out of curiosity, what is it that makes a person racist? What do they have to say or do to be considered"suspect"?



There’s no all in anything sport but I will say the majority of the ones I’ve met are really suspect!

[Brazil]

It's funny because I know plenty of them, some Trump republicans, some not a big fan of him, and none of them seem to be racist in anyway, whatsoever.

Just out of curiosity, what is it that makes a person racist? What do they have to say or do to be considered"suspect"?

:lmao you have a lot of samples just going through this forum...

stop playing the dumb

also :lol none of the trump supporters you know are racists ? :lol really how that possible ? :lol

[Atl Spur]

Is it really necessary to engage in conversation on a topic that is built on opinion? This topic has been discussed at nauseam and because you can’t definitively prove the condition of a persons heart, racist or not racist can be chalked up to conjecture.
I personally am out of the business of convincing people ( if the shoe was on the other foot ) of admitting bias/injustice exist through laws/policies in a disturbing way at the peril of minorities.

[Atl Spur]

Ducks, what I gotta do to get you to speak? I just want to embarrass you.....that’s all! Nathan you will do though:)

[Atl Spur]

Fake little boys.......living fake little lives! Let’s get to the facts...

[Dirks_Finale]

Thanks for the long post. I grew up in black ghettos. I have also served in the military among people from all over the place and many different cultures. Race has honestly never really been a thing to me. I judge people by how they conduct/carry themselves; so perhaps I am being a bit naive to think or assume that most others feel the same.

I have not been pulled over by the police in 15 years. And when I was pulled over I was actually breaking a law. So I can not relate to your situation. I have been under the impression that things have improved since the 90's with cell phone and body cams, etc. But if your situation is typical, then it obviously has not improved as much as I have assumed.

As far as the posters here, I have not read all their posts and honestly, people say shit on here sometimes just out of boredom trying to get a rise out of others. So who knows how they really feel. I'm just saying of the conservatives I interact with, they show no obvious outward sign of racism to me. I hear no racial slurs or open type bigotry like I used to hear, quite commonly, decades ago. Implicit bias is a thing, and I'm sure it exists on all fronts. You are probably holding some implicit bias against white folks you don't know because of bad experiences in the past. But you are also likely not a racist. So I do not think it's fair to fling that racist title around as often as you do at others.

My 2 cents.




I will say you don’t seem to be as big of a white supremacist trump groupie as Nathan89 but it’s ridiculous you are saying none of them are racist in anyway. Do you see what Nathan89, a giant fucking racist is saying? “I’m not racist” Do you think anyone wants to admit they are racist? Also most racists usually don’t say racist shit out loud.

I mean saying BLM is a media lie or not real or a hoax is moronic and racist. I think you already hopefully know that.

Calling the Coronavirus plague is racist because you are now giving a population of people a bad image When it was only a small people that started it. Call it coronavirus not labeling it something that can get Chinese people mistreated.

Thinking White privilege doesn’t exist is pretty ignorant. How many times in the past year have you been stopped by a cop and had your car searched for drugs or weapons? I’ve had it happen 7 times in past year and I’ve literally never used any type of drug or weapon in my life. And I’ve driven both my car and my wife’s and I’m the only one that’s been stopped.

Not noticing that black people get treated shittier and also people of color do as well here in the US.

I would implore you to try and learn and listen what it’s like for a day in the life as a black person or person of color.

Secondly , It’s called implicit bias.


Also known as implicit social cognition, implicit bias refers to the attitudes or stereotypes that affect our understanding, actions, and decisions in an unconscious manner. These biases, which encompass both favorable and unfavorable assessments, are activated involuntarily and without an individual’s awareness or intentional control. Residing deep in the subconscious, these biases are different from known biases that individuals may choose to conceal for the purposes of social and/or political correctness. Rather, implicit biases are not accessible through introspection.

The implicit associations we harbor in our subconscious cause us to have feelings and attitudes about other people based on characteristics such as race, ethnicity, age, and appearance. These associations develop over the course of a lifetime beginning at a very early age through exposure to direct and indirect messages. In addition to early life experiences, the media and news programming are often-cited origins of implicit associations.

A Few Key Characteristics of Implicit Biases

Implicit biases are pervasive. Everyone possesses them, even people with avowed commitments to impartiality such as judges.
Implicit and explicit biases are related but distinct mental constructs. They are not mutually exclusive and may even reinforce each other.
The implicit associations we hold do not necessarily align with our declared beliefs or even reflect stances we would explicitly endorse.
We generally tend to hold implicit biases that favor our own ingroup, though research has shown that we can still hold implicit biases against our ingroup.
Implicit biases are malleable. Our brains are incredibly complex, and the implicit associations that we have formed can be gradually unlearned through a variety of debiasing techniques.

[Dirks_Finale]

Exactly, we can not prove implicit biases and/or true feelings of others. It's merely conjecture to attempt to do so, especially when interacting with people virtually.... that we have never even met.... And it's unfair.


Is it really necessary to engage in conversation on a topic that is built on opinion? This topic has been discussed at nauseam and because you can’t definitively prove the condition of a persons heart, racist or not racist can be chalked up to conjecture.
I personally am out of the business of convincing people ( if the shoe was on the other foot ) of admitting bias/injustice exist through laws/policies in a disturbing way at the peril of minorities.

[Atl Spur]

Exactly, we can not prove implicit biases and/or true feelings of others. It's merely conjecture to attempt to do so, especially when interacting with people virtually.... that we have never even met.... And it's unfair.

My invitation stands.....I’ll disclose to them who I am and how we can role up our sleeves to bring about change������

[Atl Spur]

Dirk, btw if you read my post, I clearly stated the ones I met my guy.....

[Frenchfred]

8 years of a democratic POTUS and Iraq was still occupied, as was GITMO. Don't act like the two sides don't lock together like legos.

well, when you destroyed everything and destabilized the entire region (which created created Isis by the way), it is hard to leave. But, hey, it was never about oil. As I said, when republicans lie or manipulate, millions die.

[DMC]

well, when you destroyed everything and destabilized the entire region (which created created Isis by the way), it is hard to leave. But, hey, it was never about oil. As I said, when republicans lie or manipulate, millions die.

:lol destabilized? What kept it stable, Saddam gassing the fuck out of everyone?

idiots

[DMC]

You actually take Trump serious and this version of the Republicans huh?

I don't take any politicians seriously, but their policies can seriously affect plenty. Each side wants their friends to make money so they can make money once they leave office from those friends. It's only surprising that more Americans have't just refused to participate completely. Even now around half the eligible voters actually vote.

[Atl Spur]

I find that most don’t like history......almost like it didn’t exist! News flash......it does��

[Frenchfred]

:lol destabilized? What kept it stable, Saddam gassing the fuck out of everyone?

idiots

the same Saddam supported by Reagan, another Republican against Iran, the same Iran that was destabilized in 1954 by the removal of elected prime minister Mossadegh by Eisenhower another Republican. Like I said, when Republicans lie, millions die

[tenbeersbold]

That's another opinion piece.

Umm no its not,do you actually comprehend the English language???
I know FACTS hurt your feelings and all but why don't you just STFU when you have no facts or statistics to prove what your social media skillz tell you/
LOL waiting for your pithy response per par etc,etc

[tenbeersbold]

I'm pointing out you posted an opinion piece. Review the link you posted, and I replied to, and apologize to me afterwards. thanks

It's not an opinion piece loser.Keep deflecting.I've pointed out and listed and linked all the studies on shootings/police bias etc before.
The search key is your friend
It's not my job to continually lead you to what you already know.
It must really suck to hover on a forum and just regurgitate bullshit all day like you do
Have fun loser!

[tenbeersbold]

For starters, fatal police shootings make up a much larger proportion of white and Hispanic homicide deaths than black homicide deaths. According to the Post database, in 2015 officers killed 662 whites and Hispanics, and 258 blacks. (The overwhelming majority of all those police-shooting victims were attacking the officer, often with a gun.) Using the 2014 homicide numbers as an approximation of 2015’s, those 662 white and Hispanic victims of police shootings would make up 12% of all white and Hispanic homicide deaths. That is three times the proportion of black deaths that result from police shootings.

[tenbeersbold]

Some may find evidence of police bias in the fact that blacks make up 26% of the police-shooting victims, compared with their 13% representation in the national population. But as residents of poor black neighborhoods know too well, violent crimes are disproportionately committed by blacks. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, blacks were charged with 62% of all robberies, 57% of murders and 45% of assaults in the 75 largest U.S. counties in 2009, though they made up roughly 15% of the population there.

[tenbeersbold]

A 2015 study by University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway, formerly acting director of the National Institute of Justice, found that, at a crime scene where gunfire is involved, black officers in the New York City Police Department were 3.3 times more likely to discharge their weapons than other officers at the scene.

[tenbeersbold]

There is widespread concern about racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings and that these disparities reflect discrimination by White officers. Existing databases of fatal shootings lack information about officers, and past analytic approaches have made it difficult to assess the contributions of factors like crime. We create a comprehensive database of officers involved in fatal shootings during 2015 and predict victim race from civilian, officer, and county characteristics. We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. Instead, race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings. https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

[tenbeersbold]

This effort to increase minority representation will not reduce racial disparities in shootings, concludes the PNAS study, since white officers are not responsible for those disparities; black crime rates are. Moreover, lowered hiring standards risk bad police work and corruption. A 2015 Justice Department study (http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-releases-report-philadelphia-police-departments-use-deadly-force) of the Philadelphia Police Department found that black officers were 67 percent more likely than white officers to mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect; Hispanic officers were 145 percent more likely than white officers to mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect. Whether lowered hiring standards are responsible for those disparities was not addressed.

[tenbeersbold]

The Obama administration recommended (https://www.justice.gov/crt/case-document/file/900761/download) in 2016 that police departments lower their entry standards in order to be able to qualify more minorities for recruitment. Departments had already been deemphasizing written exams or eliminating requirements that recruits have a clean criminal record, but the trend intensified thereafter. The Baltimore Police Department changed its qualifying exam to such an extent that the director of legal instruction in the Baltimore Police Academy complained (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-recruits-law-understanding-20180202-story.html) in 2018 that rookie officers were being let out onto the street with little understanding of the law.

https://www.justice.gov/crt/case-document/file/900761/download

[ElNono]

I know its actual READING,not social media sheeple stuff but its full of FACTS
Ya know the kind collected by state and Fed agencies,FBI,BJS etc...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883


That's another opinion piece.


Umm no its not,do you actually comprehend the English language???


It's not an opinion piece loser.Keep deflecting.

https://i.postimg.cc/T1tDScWB/image.png

Now, apologize.

[tenbeersbold]

https://i.postimg.cc/T1tDScWB/image.png

Now, apologize.
LMFAO,yeah sure.
Heather MacDonald just testified at House Congressional hearings last week.
If you knew remotely anything about the topic at hand you'd know she's one of its foremost journalists/researchers and all of her research is based on actual stats supplied by all the relevant state and federal agencies.
But you keep on fishing it's about all you are good at.

Meanwhile here's an example of what's really wrong with American cities.Imagine if this guy had been White and the victim Black what would be burning ?!?
https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/brute-accused-of-slugging-elderly-bronx-woman-has-been-arrested-over-100-times/

[tenbeersbold]

More of the lovely ghetto experience.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/10/14/elderly-care-staff-accused-pitting-residents-against-each-other-dementia-fight-club/

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https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/brooklyn-youths-attack-couple-racial-attack-cops-article-1.1490901

[Atl Spur]

More of the lovely ghetto experience.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/10/14/elderly-care-staff-accused-pitting-residents-against-each-other-dementia-fight-club/

Have you lived that “lovely ghetto experience”?

[ElNono]

LMFAO,yeah sure.

So you agree it was opinion. You still haven't apologized. Go ahead.

[OldMan88]

Not wanting to enter your little disagreement, but the “Opinion / Commentary” section is typically where newspapers put articles that are not written by employees of the newspapers.