Leftist Cult

[daboom1]

What does the Bible say about Catholicism? Be specific.

I'm not going to do your homework for you.

God Bless :tu

[Winehole23]

^^^ came up empty on scripture

[daboom1]

^^^ignorant, uses English IV vocab to make it seem like he said something profound

[Winehole23]

^^^ignorant, uses English IV vocab to make it seem like he said something profoundstill no scripture, simple Chris. it's not anybody else's job to back up your bs.

[daboom1]

still no scripture, simple Chris. it's not anybody else's job to back up your bs.

I corrected Lambert. Not my job to fetch scripture on demand.

God Bless. :tu

[Winehole23]

I corrected Lambert. Not my job to fetch scripture on demand.

God Bless. :tuwhite flag waving proud

[spurraider21]

Ok what's that supposed to mean exactly? Are you insinuating that I am lying about not being a conservative? Didn't I take your little questionnaire not even a week ago and I didn't end up fitting neatly into your little fabricated box of who you thought I truly was politically? :lmfao
twisting yourself up into a pretzel with that last comment

conservatives aren't accepting of trans people, but they're also very tolerant and accepting of others!

[spurraider21]

21 just going through the algorithms, beep boop.
you'd be the expert, as the guy who's actually faced multiple twitter suspensions for bot-like behavior :lol

[Adam Lambert]

I'm not going to do your homework for you.

God Bless :tu

There's no homework to be done. This is easy for anyone who has read a shred of scripture. You haven't read shit, you just want to belong to something. I feel sorry for you. Perhaps someday you'll find your purpose. Maybe it's not being an unpaid bot wannabe living in mom's basement.

[Adam Lambert]

Claims to be Christian.
Thinks finding scriptural reference to Catholicism is homework.
:lmao

Fraud. How fucking pathetic

[daboom1]

God Bless :tu

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/1392979294058602501?s=19

:tu Nancy

[ElNono]

they didnt ban any words from being used

they are being told to stop teaching certain ways of spelling... closest analogy we have here would be the "latinx" thing. french schools were basically doing the same thing, even though it didnt impact the pronunciation of words.

they've been instructed to stop doing that because it causes confusion to people learning. nothing was said about it being harmful to "culture"

Beep boop eating fake news per par

[koriwhat]

twisting yourself up into a pretzel with that last comment

conservatives aren't accepting of trans people, but they're also very tolerant and accepting of others!

Not "conservatives" but conservatism as in the party ideology. You mincing words isn't my problem bro; maybe you should've had your paralegal explain it to you since you're too dense to figure it out yourself.

[daboom1]

Not "conservatives" but conservatism as in the party ideology. You mincing words isn't my problem bro; maybe you should've had your paralegal explain it to you since you're too dense to figure it out yourself.

poor fella

[spurraider21]

Not "conservatives" but conservatism as in the party ideology. You mincing words isn't my problem bro; maybe you should've had your paralegal explain it to you since you're too dense to figure it out yourself.
you said "the backbone of the party isn't for the trans community"

the backbone of the party would be "conservatives"

you then later said "that's not to say conservatives aren't tolerating and accepting though"

so for both points you referred to conservatives, the people. not "conservatism"

[DMC]

white flag waving proud

This is you not winning again. You're doing a lot of these not winning displays lately.

[DMC]

you said "the backbone of the party isn't for the trans community"

the backbone of the party would be "conservatives"

you then later said "that's not to say conservatives aren't tolerating and accepting though"

so for both points you referred to conservatives, the people. not "conservatism"

There's a fallacy in there somewhere.

Person A is a conservative
Person A is not tolerant and accepting of transsexuals

Ergo conservatives are not tolerant and accepting of transsexuals

Wonder how that works with liberals...


Maxine Waters is a democrat
Maxine Waters called for violence against police

Democrats called for violence against police

Also, there's a difference between "for" and "accepting of".

Are you for your MIL living with you?
Would you be accepting of her if she showed up?

Come on Philo, these are strip mall lawyer level fallacies

[spurraider21]

There's a fallacy in there somewhere.

Person A is a conservative
Person A is not tolerant and accepting of transsexuals

Ergo conservatives are not tolerant and accepting of transsexuals

Wonder how that works with liberals...


Maxine Waters is a democrat
Maxine Waters called for violence against police

Democrats called for violence against police

Also, there's a difference between "for" and "accepting of".

Are you for your MIL living with you?
Would you be accepting of her if she showed up?

Come on Philo, these are strip mall lawyer level fallacies
i never made this claim. in fact, i said this:


Let's not take the long way around. Your fallback argument is that a conservative can't support a trans candidate.


i dont agree with that at all. i absolutely think they can. i do think there are some that never will because of their disgust of trans people. but if a trans person supports conservative policies, then of course they will have conservative support.

all i was doing in the conversation you jumped into was point out the inconsistency of koriwhat's comment about how conservatives dont accept trans people but also that conservatives are accepting of others

[koriwhat]

you said "the backbone of the party isn't for the trans community"

the backbone of the party would be "conservatives"

you then later said "that's not to say conservatives aren't tolerating and accepting though"

so for both points you referred to conservatives, the people. not "conservatism"

Your interpretation of backbone is the people and not my interpretation which is the ideology behind the party itself. Again, it's not my fault you mince words or interpret them differently from myself. Maybe you should ask me to explain what I mean first instead of jumping to conclusions like you always do.

It's like people crying about church goers being homophobic when the majority of them aren't yet their religion itself looks down on homosexuals.

Keep moving goal posts all you'd like but this is why I don't care to deal with you much bro.

[spurraider21]

Your interpretation of backbone is the people and not my interpretation which is the ideology behind the party itself. Again, it's not my fault you mince words or interpret them differently from myself. Maybe you should ask me to explain what I mean first instead of jumping to conclusions like you always do.

It's like people crying about church goers being homophobic when the majority of them aren't yet their religion itself looks down on homosexuals.

Keep moving goal posts all you'd like but this is why I don't care to deal with you much bro.
so the backbone of the party is not people. ok then.

but i still fail to see how this even makes a difference. if the ideology behind the party is not accepting of trans people, doesnt this necessarily manifest in some people of the party, ie conservatives, also not being accepting of trans people?

[koriwhat]

so the backbone of the party is not people. ok then.

but i still fail to see how this even makes a difference. if the ideology behind the party is not accepting of trans people, doesnt this necessarily manifest in some people of the party, ie conservatives, also not being accepting of trans people?

"Some" is the key word but not the majority of folks just like church goers bro.

Btw, when I said "backbone" I meant the ideology itself behind that party and I doubt it was that dubious you couldn't understand where I was coming from. Either way it doesn't matter.

[Winehole23]

This is you not winning again. You're doing a lot of these not winning displays lately.your sympathy for Beep Boop is touching

[DMC]

i never made this claim. in fact, i said this:





all i was doing in the conversation you jumped into was point out the inconsistency of koriwhat's comment about how conservatives dont accept trans people but also that conservatives are accepting of others

Don't drag other discussions into this. I wasn't referring to your long game. I am talking about that particular response.

Your response doesn't indicate that conclusion at all, given the fallacies you employed.

[DMC]

your sympathy for Beep Boop is touching

You being exposed somehow indicates support for someone else. Must be nice to have that ivory tower of emotional security.

Oh look, more new words for your bingo card.

[Winehole23]

:lol

more armchair psychology and puny gloating. savor it!

[spurraider21]

Don't drag other discussions into this. I wasn't referring to your long game. I am talking about that particular response.

Your response doesn't indicate that conclusion at all, given the fallacies you employed.
my response that you quoted was pointed out the inconsistency of koriwhat's comments, not making my own claims. i wasn't reaching any conclusions of my own, only the conclusion that kw's comment was incoherent

[Winehole23]

You being exposed somehow indicates support for someone else. Must be nice to have that ivory tower of emotional security.

Oh look, more new words for your bingo card.go make your own

[Winehole23]

oh and thanks for disclosing it was albout me. that was optional. :tu

[DMC]

my response that you quoted was pointed out the inconsistency of koriwhat's comments, not making my own claims. i wasn't reaching any conclusions of my own, only the conclusion that kw's comment was incoherent

I already addressed that. It's not inconsistent based on the way you assumed "conservative backbone" meant all conservatives. You did in fact reach a conclusion, you concluded KW was inconsistent. This is what I was referring to. Instead of trying to have a conversation, you immediately try to discredit the poster by showing inconsistencies when most often you're either intentionally taking something out of context or you're too lazy to actually learn what the individual means. Do you really think that many people lack the ability to know when they are flip flopping?

[spurraider21]

I already addressed that. It's not inconsistent based on the way you assumed "conservative backbone" meant all conservatives. You did in fact reach a conclusion, you concluded KW was inconsistent. This is what I was referring to. Instead of trying to have a conversation, you immediately try to discredit the poster by showing inconsistencies when most often you're either intentionally taking something out of context or you're too lazy to actually learn what the individual means. Do you really think that many people lack the ability to know when they are flip flopping?
i never assumed it meant "all conservatives"... thats not what people typically mean when talking about the backbone. nobody says the backbone of america is all americans.

when he talked about conservative backbone, i assumed it meant the more active and politically engaged block of conservatives, as opposed to people generally disinterested in politics who just go pull the lever for republicans every now and again.

regardless, i think its disingenuous to think he was referring to separate groups of people. he was, to his credit, acknowledging that conservatives have a tendency of not being accepting of trans people, but at the same time tried to rehabilitate said group by saying they are generally open and accepting of others. i found that to be a laughable contortion, hence my response with the image of a pretzel. taken to its extreme, its like pointing out how inclusive the kkk is by showing it accepts italian americans, irish americans, etc (no im not saying all conservatives are kkk, so save the straw for something else)

he has now said that "conservative backbone" wasn't even referencing any people, but rather an ideology, which might be genuine, but also calls into question his grasp of the language he's using

[Winehole23]

DMC pitching hay furiously this AM, spoiling for banter and contention

[DMC]

i never assumed it meant "all conservatives"... thats not what people typically mean when talking about the backbone. nobody says the backbone of america is all americans.

when he talked about conservative backbone, i assumed it meant the more active and politically engaged block of conservatives, as opposed to people generally disinterested in politics who just go pull the lever for republicans every now and again.

regardless, i think its disingenuous to think he was referring to separate groups of people. he was, to his credit, acknowledging that conservatives have a tendency of not being accepting of trans people, but at the same time tried to rehabilitate said group by saying they are generally open and accepting of others. i found that to be a laughable contortion, hence my response with the image of a pretzel. taken to its extreme, its like pointing out how inclusive the kkk is by showing it accepts italian americans, irish americans, etc (no im not saying all conservatives are kkk, so save the straw for something else)

he has now said that "conservative backbone" wasn't even referencing any people, but rather an ideology, which might be genuine, but also calls into question his grasp of the language he's using

You still didn't understand. Good grief.

He said the central theme of the GOP isn't one that is tolerant or accepting of trannies, but that plenty of the members of the conservative party are. Why is this so hard for you that you have to rewrite both sides of the exchange?

[DMC]

DMC pitching hay furiously this AM, spoiling for banter and contention
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[Winehole23]

weak

[koriwhat]

my response that you quoted was pointed out the inconsistency of koriwhat's comments, not making my own claims. i wasn't reaching any conclusions of my own, only the conclusion that kw's comment was incoherent

My response wasn't incoherent unless you're a retard like yourself bro. You just want to define my words and claim that's what they mean when it's not what they meant at all. You're a faux intellectual who is so invested in your own shitty ego.

[koriwhat]

i never assumed it meant "all conservatives"... thats not what people typically mean when talking about the backbone. nobody says the backbone of america is all americans.

You're a fucking retard SR. You live in your own world where you think you're the end all to everything including what I meant by "backbone". I meant what I meant no matter how you want to twist it and claim I should've said this or that instead. Fuck off shit lawyer!

[DMC]

You're a fucking retard SR. You live in your own world where you think you're the end all to everything including what I meant by "backbone". I meant what I meant no matter how you want to twist it and claim I should've said this or that instead. Fuck off shit lawyer!

Get'em KW!

[Winehole23]

^^^ kw's pom-pom section now

[koriwhat]

he has now said that "conservative backbone" wasn't even referencing any people, but rather an ideology, which might be genuine, but also calls into question his grasp of the language he's using

Go back and review how many times I stated what I meant... You're just an egomaniac with a complex. Are we really going to argue over what I said when I stated exactly what I meant time and time again?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CleanTalkativeDassie-max-1mb.gif

[koriwhat]

You still didn't understand. Good grief.

He said the central theme of the GOP isn't one that is tolerant or accepting of trannies, but that plenty of the members of the conservative party are. Why is this so hard for you that you have to rewrite both sides of the exchange?

Exactly this... Smh at the dumbfuck shit lawyer though.

[koriwhat]

^^^ kw's pom-pom section now

Why don't you contribute something worth a damn instead of being another bitch here on ST like the other loser progressive commies here?

[Winehole23]

This message is hidden because koriwhat is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[koriwhat]

I always find it funny when idiots here post "This message is hidden because X is on your ignore list."

These are the same losers who post farewell threads when not one person here gives a fuck whether they stay or leave.

As well, Winehole was replying to me not even 20 mins ago but I'm supposed to believe he all of a sudden has me on ignore. Good ignore me and I won't have to deal with a back and forth with a pathetic reject who loves being submissive.

[Blake]

I always find it funny when idiots here post "This message is hidden because X is on your ignore list."

These are the same losers who post farewell threads when not one person here gives a fuck whether they stay or leave.

As well, Winehole was replying to me not even 20 mins ago but I'm supposed to believe he all of a sudden has me on ignore. Good ignore me and I won't have to deal with a back and forth with a pathetic reject who loves being submissive.

You always brag about me being on ignore. Same difference, genius.

[Winehole23]

so lonely

[koriwhat]

Yo Wine I bet Blake will let you buttfuck him. Get those digits bro and make him delete his grinder account already. You two are a match made in heaven!

[Blake]

Yo Wine I bet Blake will let you buttfuck him. Get those digits bro and make him delete his grinder account already. You two are a match made in heaven!

Kw sharing his gay porn thoughts with everyone.

[spurraider21]

You still didn't understand. Good grief.

He said the central theme of the GOP isn't one that is tolerant or accepting of trannies, but that plenty of the members of the conservative party are. Why is this so hard for you that you have to rewrite both sides of the exchange?
he said the "backbone" of the party, not the "central theme"

:cry stop paraphrasing! :cry

i already acknowledged in the post you are quoting that i now understand he claims he was referring to the ideology (or central theme, as you put it), but that i maintain that typically, people dont use the expression "backbone of the party' in that way.

[spurraider21]

You're a fucking retard SR. You live in your own world where you think you're the end all to everything including what I meant by "backbone". I meant what I meant no matter how you want to twist it and claim I should've said this or that instead. Fuck off shit lawyer!
well ahead of you, buddy :tu

he has now said that "conservative backbone" wasn't even referencing any people, but rather an ideology

[daboom1]

he said the "backbone" of the party, not the "central theme"

:cry stop paraphrasing! :cry

i already acknowledged in the post you are quoting that i now understand he claims he was referring to the ideology (or central theme, as you put it), but that i maintain that typically, people dont use the expression "backbone of the party' in that way.

shut up faggot

[spurraider21]

shut up faggot
hey, what's Caitlyn Jenner's gender?

you dodged that question earlier in this thread

[koriwhat]

hey, what's Caitlyn Jenner's gender?

you dodged that question earlier in this thread

Male and always will be no matter how hard he and you pretend otherwise. With that said, Bruce can identify however he likes and if he wants to identify as a she and as Caitlyn then more power to "her" but pretending otherwise is going against the "science".

With that said, what gender is Caitlyn Jenner SR?

[spurraider21]

Male and always will be no matter how hard he and you pretend otherwise. With that said, Bruce can identify however he likes and if he wants to identify as a she and as Caitlyn then more power to "her" but pretending otherwise is going against the "science".

With that said, what gender is Caitlyn Jenner SR?
has nothing to do with what "i" pretend. its her identity, not mine. i dont have any control over somebody else's identity.

based on everything i know, caitlyn jenner identifies as a woman, so that's her gender as far as i'm concerned.

i have no problem going into this... but just want to get something out there. do you use sex and gender interchangeably, or do you mean them to be the same thing? because we might just end up hitting a semantic brick wall right off the bat and have no opportunity for an actual discussion

[koriwhat]

has nothing to do with what "i" pretend. its her identity, not mine. i dont have any control over somebody else's identity.

based on everything i know, caitlyn jenner identifies as a woman, so that's her gender as far as i'm concerned.

i have no problem going into this... but just want to get something out there. do you use sex and gender interchangeably, or do you mean them to be the same thing? because we might just end up hitting a semantic brick wall right off the bat and have no opportunity for an actual discussion

Let's play a game... When did you start thinking Male and Female is interchangeable regardless of biology? Was it when you were in grade school, middle school, high school, college, or as recently as a few years to half a decade ago? When exactly bro?

Got a dick = Male... Chopped your dick off = Male... Got a vagina = Female... Chopped your tits off = Female...

Do chromosomes suddenly change when someone "identifies" as the other gender/sex?

I have always held the stance that no matter what I support people living a life that benefits their mental well being. I just don't buy into the lie that once you identify as the other gender all of a sudden "science" is a thing of the past or that we should warp "science" to fit the narrative. Either way live your life as you see fit and enjoy it but don't expect others to buy into your world view or perception of who you believe you truly are.

I am also done with this subject because well IDGAF enough to continue on with it. :tu

[daboom1]

21 still clinging to his strawman, willing to blur the lines no matter what.

[spurraider21]

Let's play a game... When did you start thinking Male and Female is interchangeable regardless of biology? Was it when you were in grade school, middle school, high school, college, or as recently as a few years to half a decade ago? When exactly bro?

Got a dick = Male... Chopped your dick off = Male... Got a vagina = Female... Chopped your tits off = Female...

Do chromosomes suddenly change when someone "identifies" as the other gender/sex?

I have always held the stance that no matter what I support people living a life that benefits their mental well being. I just don't buy into the lie that once you identify as the other gender all of a sudden "science" is a thing of the past or that we should warp "science" to fit the narrative. Either way live your life as you see fit and enjoy it but don't expect others to buy into your world view or perception of who you believe you truly are.

I am also done with this subject because well IDGAF enough to continue on with it. :tu
if you're talking about sex, i almost entirely agree with the above, and i dont use male and female interchangeably in that respect. we typically define sexual categories by one's role in the reproductive system... either by looking at what genitalia one has, their chromosomal makeup, or what gametes they produce (sperm or egg). that doesn't change with somebody's identity.

i'm asking you if you use gender and sex interchangeably. when you use the term gender or sex, do you mean different things? can you at least give a straight answer there?

[spurraider21]

21 still clinging to his strawman, willing to blur the lines no matter what.
asking you a question is a strawman these days :lol

Qhrisbot engaging in self censorship as usual. beep boop.

for all my disagreements with him, at least koriwhat isn't scared or ashamed to share his beliefs and opinions

[koriwhat]

if you're talking about sex, i almost entirely agree with the above, and i dont use male and female interchangeably in that respect. we typically define sexual categories by one's role in the reproductive system... either by looking at what genitalia one has, their chromosomal makeup, or what gametes they produce (sperm or egg). that doesn't change with somebody's identity.

i'm asking you if you use gender and sex interchangeably. when you use the term gender or sex, do you mean different things? can you at least give a straight answer there?

Of course you won't answer my question first but expect me to answer yours. Always and forever right SR?

If we are talking "sex" and characteristics that make up a woman or a man then the same goes in my mind. You can dress up all you'd like and call yourself whatever you'd like but it still doesn't matter.

I thought yall hated blue for boys and pink for girls?

This subject is so damn boring.

[daboom1]

scared ashamed

^projection

[spurraider21]

Of course you won't answer my question first but expect me to answer yours. Always and forever right SR?

If we are talking "sex" and characteristics that make up a woman or a man then the same goes in my mind. You can dress up all you'd like and call yourself whatever you'd like but it still doesn't matter.

I thought yall hated blue for boys and pink for girls?

This subject is so damn boring.
i did answer your question, though. you asked me when i started using male and female interchangeably regardless of biology. i answered it here

if you're talking about sex, i almost entirely agree with the above, and i dont use male and female interchangeably in that respect. we typically define sexual categories by one's role in the reproductive system... either by looking at what genitalia one has, their chromosomal makeup, or what gametes they produce (sperm or egg). that doesn't change with somebody's identity.

i'm asking you if you use gender and sex interchangeably. when you use the term gender or sex, do you mean different things? can you at least give a straight answer there?
you still havent answered the simple question of whether or not you mean different things or the same thing by "sex" and "gender"

[DMC]

he said the "backbone" of the party, not the "central theme"

:cry stop paraphrasing! :cry

i already acknowledged in the post you are quoting that i now understand he claims he was referring to the ideology (or central theme, as you put it), but that i maintain that typically, people dont use the expression "backbone of the party' in that way.

He already explained it to you, yet you keep going back to the post you didn't understand as if it's still relevant :lol

But even if he meant it how you took it, your conclusion was still wrong. Even if the "backbone" was the core group of conservatives, it doesn't mean conservatives in general feel that way. You don't seem to have any issues understand this when the tables are turned - where the democratic leaders might have one belief while many of the democratic voters do not.

[spurraider21]

^projection
no, it's self evident. when somebody asks me of my opinion or my views on a subject, i always answer. look on this page of this thread, for instance.

when anybody asks you a question, you hide like you are doing right now.

[spurraider21]

He already explained it to you, yet you keep going back to the post you didn't understand as if it's still relevant :lol

But even if he meant it how you took it, your conclusion was still wrong. Even if the "backbone" was the core group of conservatives, it doesn't mean conservatives in general feel that way. You don't seem to have any issues understand this when the tables are turned - where the democratic leaders might have one belief while many of the democratic voters do not.


i dont agree with that at all. i absolutely think they can. i do think there are some that never will because of their disgust of trans people. but if a trans person supports conservative policies, then of course they will have conservative support.
:)

[koriwhat]

you still havent answered the simple question of whether or not you mean different things or the same thing by "sex" and "gender"

Your reading comprehension is lacking bro.

Either way, answer my question... Grade school, middle school, high school, college, or a few years to half a decade ago? That's the question you continue to avoid.

[DMC]

has nothing to do with what "i" pretend. its her identity, not mine. i dont have any control over somebody else's identity.

based on everything i know, caitlyn jenner identifies as a woman, so that's her gender as far as i'm concerned.

i have no problem going into this... but just want to get something out there. do you use sex and gender interchangeably, or do you mean them to be the same thing? because we might just end up hitting a semantic brick wall right off the bat and have no opportunity for an actual discussion

When has a sex reveal party been held for a pregnant birther unit?

[spurraider21]

Your reading comprehension is lacking bro.

Either way, answer my question... Grade school, middle school, high school, college, or a few years to half a decade ago? That's the question you continue to avoid.
i've answered your question. never. i never used male and female interchangeably.

let me know if i can be clearer on that. i'd be glad to.

cmon man, i just gave you credit for being somebody who has no problem stating what their opinion is. can you just give me a simple answer of whether or not you think there is a meaningful difference between sex and gender?

[spurraider21]

When has a sex reveal party been held for a pregnant birther unit?
we've been here before


Perhaps though they should change the name from "gender reveal" to "sex reveal" since no one asked the baby about their gender.


they probably should. gender is a more tame term because sex also refers to the act, for possibly for that reason, colloquially, the terms had been used fairly interchangeably for a while, albeit inaccurately. they had been distinct in academia/textbooks all along though, as far as i'm aware

[koriwhat]

When has a sex reveal party been held for a pregnant birther unit?

Lol Check out this logic...

"based on everything i know, caitlyn jenner identifies as a woman, so that's her gender as far as i'm concerned."

As if identifying as a woman is as simple as claiming you're a woman. There's so much more to being a woman than laying claim to being one. With womanhood comes biology and without that biology there is no woman or womanhood even if you do slice your dick up like a banana split and call that open wound a vagina.

[DMC]

I don't think anyone here considers Jenner a woman or female. They can pretend all the like to seem socially woke, but there's enough evidence on this forum to show they are lying.

[DMC]

we've been here before

But they didn't. Perhaps a lot of things, but the argument is about what is, not what should be.

[spurraider21]

I don't think anyone here considers Jenner a woman or female. They can pretend all the like to seem socially woke, but there's enough evidence on this forum to show they are lying.
i probably have plenty of posts on this forum from 5-6+ years ago that i'd disagree with now. not sure how much on this subject specifically

[koriwhat]

i've answered your question. never. i never used male and female interchangeably.

let me know if i can be clearer on that. i'd be glad to.

cmon man, i just gave you credit for being somebody who has no problem stating what their opinion is. can you just give me a simple answer of whether or not you think there is a meaningful difference between sex and gender?

You're full of shit bro and you know it just as much as I do.

You referred to your father as your mother growing up? Your first girlfriend was actually your boyfriend?

You play games because you virtue signal to no end in order not to ruin your place within your sjw pc circle. I get it and it's ok however you want to think but when did you literally start buying into this stuff? You won't answer that and simply act like I should buy the answer that you have always thought this way even as a kid. I ain't buying what you're selling bro but whatever.

[spurraider21]

But they didn't. Perhaps a lot of things, but the argument is about what is, not what should be.
because as i said, there is a colloquial usage of the terms that isn't particularly useful in these discussions. like like the colloquial use of the term "theory" and how it very poorly reflects what a theory in science actually is.

[spurraider21]

You're full of shit bro and you know it just as much as I do.

You referred to your father as your mother growing up? Your first girlfriend was actually your boyfriend?

You play games because you virtue signal to no end in order not to ruin your place within your sjw pc circle. I get it and it's ok however you want to think but when did you literally start buying into this stuff? You won't answer that and simply act like I should buy the answer that you have always thought this way even as a kid. I ain't buying what you're selling bro but whatever.
if you're not interesting in having a conversation in good faith, then we'll leave it at that. i've been up front and have given firm answers to your questions. you refuse to accept them or give your own answers.

not much more to say tbh

[koriwhat]

i probably have plenty of posts on this forum from 5-6+ years ago that i'd disagree with now. not sure how much on this subject specifically

If only there was an archive...

You're so woke bro!

[spurraider21]

If only there was an archive...

You're so woke bro!
there is though :lol

anybody can use the search function and dig up old posts

but its no secret that my politics have changed with time. i've been open about the fact that i voted for romney in 2012 :lol

[koriwhat]

if you're not interesting in having a conversation in good faith, then we'll leave it at that. i've been up front and have given firm answers to your questions. you refuse to accept them or give your own answers.

not much more to say tbh

Grade school, middle school, high school, college, a few years ago or half a decade ago? You were so woke back as a child? :lmao

[koriwhat]

there is though :lol

anybody can use the search function and dig up old posts

but its no secret that my politics have changed with time. i've been open about the fact that i voted for romney in 2012 :lol

You're so woke my joke flew right over your head Mr/Ms/Miss/Xim/Beep/Bop Serious.

[DMC]

i probably have plenty of posts on this forum from 5-6+ years ago that i'd disagree with now. not sure how much on this subject specifically

I'm sure most people here do, but convenient epiphany to suit the moment isn't grounds for a solid debate. It also doesn't really matter what you believe, only what you can argue for/against successfully. Surely you know this as well.

[DMC]

because as i said, there is a colloquial usage of the terms that isn't particularly useful in these discussions. like like the colloquial use of the term "theory" and how it very poorly reflects what a theory in science actually is.

But you have the term "theory" in science to use as a reference. Where do you have "sex reveal" anywhere but strip clubs?

[koriwhat]

I'm sure most people here do, but convenient epiphany to suit the moment isn't grounds for a solid debate. It also doesn't really matter what you believe, only what you can argue for/against successfully. Surely you know this as well.

His paralegal knows this... You're giving too much credit to that biased sjw shit lawyer tbh.

[Winehole23]

"The preconditions for serious argument do not yet exist, please join me in a moment of mournful recognition of the discussion that could not take place here today."



*bows head solemnly*

[spurraider21]

I'm sure most people here do, but convenient epiphany to suit the moment isn't grounds for a solid debate.
agreed. if yesterday i was shitting on trans people and i took this stance today, it would be pretty suspect. i dont think thats the case, though.


It also doesn't really matter what you believe, only what you can argue for/against successfully. Surely you know this as well.
depends. people vote based on what they believe, not based on what they can successfully argue for.

but if you're talking about this type of forum or public arena/conversation, then yeah i agree. people can grift or play devil's advocate.

i dont usually hold strong opinions on matters that im not familiar enough to be able to argue for. the "trans question" isn't one that i really thought of much at all. really it in law school that i took a sports law class and title IX was a pretty significant portion of that class. i did a lot of reading on the issue first as it related to athletics, and then sorta just on my own for general purposes.

[spurraider21]

But you have the term "theory" in science to use as a reference. Where do you have "sex reveal" anywhere but strip clubs?
well not "sex reveal" or "gender reveal"... but "sex" and "gender" certainly. so identifying exactly what you are "revealing" is still useful

[DMC]

agreed. if yesterday i was shitting on trans people and i took this stance today, it would be pretty suspect. i dont think thats the case, though.

depends. people vote based on what they believe, not based on what they can successfully argue for.

but if you're talking about this type of forum or public arena/conversation, then yeah i agree. people can grift or play devil's advocate.

i dont usually hold strong opinions on matters that im not familiar enough to be able to argue for. the "trans question" isn't one that i really thought of much at all. really it in law school that i took a sports law class and title IX was a pretty significant portion of that class. i did a lot of reading on the issue first as it related to athletics, and then sorta just on my own for general purposes.

Discussions devolve into personal beliefs and no one here can successfully argue against someone else's personal beliefs. You can only argue against supposed facts and conclusions based on them. It's a fact that currently "sex reveal parties" are basically non-existent. Just Google the term and you'll be redirected to "Gender reveal". That doesn't prove right or wrong, it only shows where we are currently. Just as you cannot be held accountable for an opinion you no longer hold (maybe legally you can), you cannot wish someone into the future and condemn them when they refuse to play along.

[DMC]

"The preconditions for serious argument do not yet exist, please join me in a moment of mournful recognition of the discussion that could not take place here today."



*bows head solemnly*

You try so hard to be interesting. It's almost pitiful.

[Winehole23]

oh well, you can't please everybody

[koriwhat]

oh well, you can't please everybody

:lol

[spurraider21]

Discussions devolve into personal beliefs and no one here can successfully argue against someone else's personal beliefs. You can only argue against supposed facts and conclusions based on them. It's a fact that currently "sex reveal parties" are basically non-existent. Just Google the term and you'll be redirected to "Gender reveal". That doesn't prove right or wrong, it only shows where we are currently. Just as you cannot be held accountable for an opinion you no longer hold (maybe legally you can), you cannot wish someone into the future and condemn them when they refuse to play along.
I never disputed that people call them gender reveal parties and not sex reveal parties so this isn’t a point of contention. I posited explanations as to why that’s the case. That doesn’t change that if you wanted to go with more academic terms, sex would be a more accurate descriptor. But as long as people generally understand what’s being communicated, there’s enough utility there. I also acknowledge that the colloquial equivocation between sex and gender make it more difficult to have the conversations I was trying to have.

can you elaborate on or explain the last thing you said re wishing people into the future?

[Adam Lambert]

Where do you have "sex reveal" anywhere but strip clubs?

Kind of hilarious that you're ceding word definition authority to people who rig up a piñata of their college mascot to explode into pink or blue shrapnel for an Instagram story.

[DMC]

I never disputed that people call them gender reveal parties and not sex reveal parties so this isn’t a point of contention. I posited explanations as to why that’s the case. That doesn’t change that if you wanted to go with more academic terms, sex would be a more accurate descriptor. But as long as people generally understand what’s being communicated, there’s enough utility there. I also acknowledge that the colloquial equivocation between sex and gender make it more difficult to have the conversations I was trying to have.

can you elaborate on or explain the last thing you said re wishing people into the future?

Sure.

If you can go back 6 years and find that you held a different opinion, does that mean you were wrong then or that you're wrong now? Or is it even an issue of right and wrong? Give yourself 6 years from that opinion and you get to where you are now. So when you take someone else's opinion that you feel needs to evolve into a more "woke" outlook and treat it as archaic, you're basically telling them to have a similar epiphany as you and come to the same conclusion. They might one day, but you cannot just wish them past that 6 year learning curve.

[DMC]

Kind of hilarious that you're ceding word definition authority to people who rig up a piñata of their college mascot to explode into pink or blue shrapnel for an Instagram story.

And you're ceding it to someone who cut their own penis off, put on a dress and has a at least 45% suicide attempt rate.

[spurraider21]

Sure.

If you can go back 6 years and find that you held a different opinion, does that mean you were wrong then or that you're wrong now? Or is it even an issue of right and wrong? Give yourself 6 years from that opinion and you get to where you are now. So when you take someone else's opinion that you feel needs to evolve into a more "woke" outlook and treat it as archaic, you're basically telling them to have a similar epiphany as you and come to the same conclusion. They might one day, but you cannot just wish them past that 6 year learning curve.
This is nonsense. Basically you should never argue a position because it might take a long time for the other guy to come around

my opinions changed as the information i had did. They were based off of ignorance of what i know now. Time passing isn’t what magically changed my outlook, but rather the introduction of new information. If i had the same info presented to me years earlier, i likely would have adopted my current view earlier as well

[spurraider21]

And you're ceding it to someone who cut their own penis off, put on a dress and has a at least 45% suicide attempt rate.
A) An individual would not have a suicide rate
b) do you have anything to support a contention that a transgender person is behind the definition of gender?

[DMC]

This is nonsense. Basically you should never argue a position because it might take a long time for the other guy to come around

my opinions changed as the information i had did. They were based off of ignorance of what i know now. Time passing isn’t what magically changed my outlook, but rather the introduction of new information. If i had the same info presented to me years earlier, i likely would have adopted my current view earlier as well

So you didn't have access to information but could access Spurstalk ok?

[spurraider21]

So you didn't have access to information but could access Spurstalk ok?
Uhh. Sure?

i don’t know about you, but Spurstalk isn’t my only source of information from which my worldview is based on

[DMC]

A) An individual would not have a suicide rate
b) do you have anything to support a contention that a transgender person is behind the definition of gender?

hurr durr muh editing fiasco

[DMC]

Uhh. Sure?

i don’t know about you, but Spurstalk isn’t my only source of information from which my worldview is based on

But it was just a few years ago? This is your contention.

[ChumpDumper]

Dim See is trying to find another angle so he can declare victory.

He's getting a little panicky.

[spurraider21]

But it was just a few years ago? This is your contention.
Yeah. That info has been out there for a while. It wasn’t until a few years ago i came across it and became better educated on the subject.

can you cut to the chase?

[DMC]

Yeah. That info has been out there for a while. It wasn’t until a few years ago i came across it and became better educated on the subject.

can you cut to the chase?

I already did several posts back. You cannot expect people to adopt a paradigm shift just because you did.

[spurraider21]

I already did several posts back. You cannot expect people to adopt a paradigm shift just because you did.
Great. So you should never argue your positions against somebody who disagrees with you.

or, you know, you can expose them to the same facts/information that you came across. If they don’t want to engage at all in the way koriwhat demonstrates, then there’s no point in it

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1395217816886956038?s=19

They are fleeing from far left policies.

[ElNono]

^ those counties are not going anywhere. The closest thing they'll do is pack up and move.

[daboom1]

^ those counties are not going anywhere. The closest thing they'll do is pack up and move.

You don't know shit, shut up faggot :lol

[ElNono]

You don't know shit, shut up faggot :lol

lmao salty loser

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1395195683829862404?s=19

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/MrReaganUSA/status/1395281954421964803?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1395195683829862404?s=19

Soros ding

[daboom1]

https://www.cgcreativeshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nelson_P.jpg

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1395643160055799816?s=19

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1395643160055799816?s=19

https://www.cgcreativeshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nelson_P.jpg

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1395217816886956038?s=19

They are fleeing from far left policies.

:tu

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1396591992180776961?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1396591992180776961?s=19

Goes to show how well San Francisco handled COVID...

For example, Harris County, TX had 3417 COVID deaths in 2020, almost 5x the amount of deaths by drug overdose in San Francisco, CA...

https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&mid=%2Fm%2F0mrhq&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/ygv0VG9/image0-1.jpg

[boutons_deux]

drug deaths up everywhere, not just SFO as LYING Breitbart suckers you ignorant dupes

Overdose Deaths Accelerating During COVID-19

Over 81,000 drug overdose deaths occurred in the United States in the 12 months ending in May 2020, the highest number of overdose deaths ever recorded in a 12-month period,

While overdose deaths were already increasing in the months preceding the 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic,

the latest numbers suggest an acceleration of overdose deaths during the pandemic.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p1218-overdose-deaths-covid-19.html

[spurraider21]

those counties trying to secede will be as effective as the 2020 dueling electors tbh

[Thread]

those counties trying to secede will be as effective as the 2020 dueling electors tbh

We're just doing you as you did us, 21. Giving you a red ass every day of the week that ends in (y). You have it coming. Just take it. You're still President, fake yes, but President nonetheless. 200k+ dead in ground, but fake President nonetheless.

You lucked out with COVID like that. Kinda like the Lakers lucking out that day in Los Angeles when Webber turned his back on Horry and started back up that lane. And you know damn good and well Coach what his name told him out of the timeout..."Don't leave him, Chris, nary a for second."

The sound of that horn as that shot comes in I shall take to the grave.

[spurraider21]

You're still President, fake yes, but President nonetheless. 200k+ dead in ground, but fake President nonetheless.
Biden Derangement Syndrome

[Thread]

Biden Derangement Syndrome

Absolutely. I ain't denying it. We've been driven mad with the need to sate our vengeance. You thought yourselves entitled to shit on our Presidency. So, you opened your collective bowels and let loose with all your hatred and frustration that he made President. But like your hatred for the Lakers, you genuinely believe your righteous in hating and harassing Trump, 21. It's a real phenomenon. Sure, we ain't near as good at it as you fellows are because we don't have a CNN, an MSNBC, the newspapers, et al. We have a lukewarm FOX who can't decide to jump in, or, jump out. They're worthless at default, even worse at their current reality. So, we bungle along because it's the best we can do. But it's still better than just rolling over and unifying with you guys.

And that finally is what you crave, what you need desperately is to have Trump and by extension (us) to fall to our knees and beg forgiveness, because that's what we always do when we's done (wrong). "Oh, I'm sorry, that's not who I really am, please forgive me, here's a check. Okay?"

Like Mel Gibson did.
Like that comedian with Seinfeld did.
What we always do.

You guys never stipulate to it.
DeNiro didn't after calling Trump a mother fucker.
Madonna didn't after threatening to blow up the White House.
That Griffin girl did after waling around with that bloody bust of Trump, but then took the apology back, then apologized again and finally walked around with the bust again a couple months back.

But, you're not going to get Trump to crucify himself. No-fucking-way. You'll never get that satisfaction. Well, I'm about 90% sure you won't. Perhaps if he gets a bad medical prognosis, he'll pull a George Wallace like down in Alabama, but I pray with all my might he'll stand fast in the ranks the rest of his life and deny you that crucifixion you need so badly.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1397047538629320708?s=19

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1397310080836644864?s=19

also video games

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1397310080836644864?s=19

also video games
:tu

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1397310080836644864?s=19

also video games
Which makes their ratings collapse so much more satisfying.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1397619298504425479?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1397310080836644864?s=19

also video games

:tu

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1397619298504425479?s=19

:tu

[daboom1]

https://i.ibb.co/9VQMNQd/Screenshot-20210527-021254-Opera.jpg

[ElNono]

https://i.ibb.co/9VQMNQd/Screenshot-20210527-021254-Opera.jpg

Gotheem

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1397310080836644864?s=19

also video games
:tu

https://twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1397619298504425479?s=19
:tu

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1397619298504425479?s=19
:tu

[Spurtacular]

https://i.ibb.co/9VQMNQd/Screenshot-20210527-021254-Opera.jpg

He's really descended to a blakian level at this point.

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1397619298504425479?s=19

:tu (For alerting us to the state of these heathen.)

[daboom1]

He's really descended to a blakian level at this point.

yeah

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1398686349482287108?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1398686349482287108?s=19

:tu

[ElNono]

He's really descended to a blakian level at this point.

^^^ lmao, salty and mad

Maybe I'll get two more alts named after me! rofl

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1398686349482287108?s=19Probably just want your kids to not murder them when they grow up tbh.

[daboom1]

Probably just want your kids to not murder them when they grow up tbh.

Trans murder themselves at a 40% clip. Not sure about the percentages on the ones that turn into sex offenders.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1398686349482287108?s=19

As if derp or qchrisy were ever to be with woman, much less procreate!

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Trans murder themselves at a 40% clip.
So your hating them helps?

Not sure about the percentages on the ones that turn into sex offenders.
What percentage of straight men are sex offenders, Qhris?

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1399519363540164612?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

You an alum, Qhris?

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1399519363540164612?s=19

Schtick. Nobody even taking these people seriously any more, tbh.

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1399519363540164612?s=19
French President was right, this extremism is rooted in American academia.

Next time you see the statistic on "voters with college degrees", increasingly in America these are the most indoctrinated.

Going away from the European foundation will be interesting. Replace it with all the African accomplishment.

[Spurtacular]

French President was right, this extremism is rooted in American academia.

Next time you see the statistic on "voters with college degrees", increasingly in America these are the most indoctrinated.

Preach.

[daboom1]

French President was right, this extremism is rooted in American academia.

Next time you see the statistic on "voters with college degrees", increasingly in America these are the most indoctrinated.

Going away from the European foundation will be interesting. Replace it with all the African accomplishment.

Macron is still a sellout tho. I sill take Le Pen any day of the week

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao you guys don't even know where Princeton is.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1399519363540164612?s=19

:tu

[DarrinS]

:tu

That thumbs up is bizarre. Why?

[daboom1]

That thumbs up is bizarre. Why?

He does the troll thing (and he likes to steal my shit and spam me with it)

[Spurtacular]

He does the troll thing (and he likes to steal my shit and spam me with it)

I think it's him sending a message that there is no limit to his shilling.
Message received. I don't hold him in any regard on political matters at this point. :tu

[ElNono]

That thumbs up is bizarre. Why?


He does the troll thing

Correct. Anything that bothers Qhris is good with me.

[ElNono]

I think it's him sending a message that there is no limit to his shilling.
Message received. I don't hold him in any regard on political matters at this point. :tu

Nobody cares about your feelings, derp. Get the memo already. :tu

[Frenchfred]

Macron is still a sellout tho. I sill take Le Pen any day of the week

of course you would as you like racist candidates but I agree Macron was horrible.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1400135734137397256?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1400135734137397256?s=19

:tu

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1398686349482287108?s=19
absolutely nothing wrong with that tbh

[ChumpDumper]

I think the song is so forced as to be tortured and stops making sense after two or three verses. No child is going to understand it. Also the minor key never fit the mood of the lyrics in the first place. Just weird all around.

[spurraider21]

I think the song is so forced as to be tortured and stops making sense after two or three verses. No child is going to understand it. Also the minor key never fit the mood of the lyrics in the first place. Just weird all around.
i actually agree with that after the first 2 verses or w/e. i just dont see it as harmful or anything thats going to destroy civilization lol

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1400135734137397256?s=19

:tu

[Frenchfred]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1400135734137397256?s=19

and what's the problem with that?

[spurraider21]

nobody bats an eye when a parent asks a 5 year old boy if he has a girlfriend at school. that sexualization is ok.

[Spurtacular]

nobody bats an eye when a parent asks a 5 year old boy if he has a girlfriend at school. that sexualization is ok.

One of your better philos, tbh.

[spurraider21]

One of your better philos, tbh.
its not a philo. its the whole game.

:cry gay agenda is ruining our children by teaching them men can be with men. they shouldnt be teaching children about sex :cry

but its ok for schools to talk about mommy and daddy getting married. the notion that LGBT stuff is any more sexual or deviant in nature than basic heterosexual orthodoxy has always been an absurdity

[DMC]

nobody bats an eye when a parent asks a 5 year old boy if he has a girlfriend at school. that sexualization is ok.

Totally the same thing :tu

[DMC]

its not a philo. its the whole game.

:cry gay agenda is ruining our children by teaching them men can be with men. they shouldnt be teaching children about sex :cry

but its ok for schools to talk about mommy and daddy getting married. the notion that LGBT stuff is any more sexual or deviant in nature than basic heterosexual orthodoxy has always been an absurdity

Why then are they grouped together like that and the heterosexuals are left out?

[ChumpDumper]

DMC: "Won't anyone think of the heterosexual children?"

[spurraider21]

Why then are they grouped together like that and the heterosexuals are left out?
same reason the civil rights movement targeted problems of discriminated minorities. while most of the discourse these days is around trans people and not the "LG" part of LGBT... even those folks are still fighting for basic equal treatment. trump admin took multiple steps to try to get in the way of married gay couples from adopting kids. if im not mistaken the official platform of every state's republican party includes the rollback of gay marriage

the only right some hetero people are fighting for is the right to not have to deal with people unlike them, which isnt one that deserves political attention

[DMC]

same reason the civil rights movement targeted problems of discriminated minorities. while most of the discourse these days is around trans people and not the "LG" part of LGBT... even those folks are still fighting for basic equal treatment. trump admin took multiple steps to try to get in the way of married gay couples from adopting kids. if im not mistaken the official platform of every state's republican party includes the rollback of gay marriage

the only right some hetero people are fighting for is the right to not have to deal with people unlike them, which isnt one that deserves political attention

But you're admitting they are not the same. Some hetero people (Christians again) think "living in sin" is bad and that there's simply no way to not be living in sin if someone is laying with a man the way they'd lay with a woman. But for some others it's just gross and perverted to see it. Personally I couldn't care less.

[spurraider21]

But you're admitting they are not the same. Some hetero people (Christians again) think "living in sin" is bad and that there's simply no way to not be living in sin if someone is laying with a man the way they'd lay with a woman. But for some others it's just gross and perverted to see it. Personally I couldn't care less.
if a christian man thinks its wrong to lay with another man, then he has his right to live his life how he sees fit and he can refuse to lay with another man*

them not wanting to see it is not something that is politically important any more than a gay guy saying he doesnt want to see a man and woman holding hands in public (when you reach obscenities or pornographic material we have recognized that there are limitations to that kind of expression in public)

we have some more or less universally shared values... such as that murder, rape, theft, assault are wrong, so we criminalize them. its also noteworthy that a person who does one of those things infringes on the bodily autonomy or property rights of others. 2 consenting adults doing something like getting married does not have a material effect on a third party observer, or at least not an effect that is worth political attention

[DMC]

if a christian man thinks its wrong to lay with another man, then he has his right to live his life how he sees fit and he can refuse to lay with another man*

If Christians thought that way, sure. Muslims are similar. They don't live and let live.


them not wanting to see it is not something that is politically important any more than a gay guy saying he doesnt want to see a man and woman holding hands in public (when you reach obscenities or pornographic material we have recognized that there are limitations to that kind of expression in public)

What's obscene differs. Your grandmother would probably find some things to be obscene that you would not.


we have some more or less universally shared values... such as that murder, rape, theft, assault are wrong, so we criminalize them. its also noteworthy that a person who does one of those things infringes on the bodily autonomy or property rights of others. 2 consenting adults doing something like getting married does not have a material effect on a third party observer, or at least not an effect that is worth political attention
10 Commandments. It doesn't matter if the shit was in existence long before any monotheistic religion, the Christians have decided God laid these things on the heart of humans and since we cannot know everything.. well you know. Sodomy is still illegal in some states, probably in Texas actually. Too bad Bogie gets sodomized on the regular here.

The things that allow society to exist are the universal values. Respecting other people's sexual choices isn't one of those.

[spurraider21]

If Christians thought that way, sure. Muslims are similar. They don't live and let live.
well, people who are fundamentalists dont. plenty of christians and muslims in the US do live and let live. to the extent they dont, fuck em, their religion is their problem


What's obscene differs. Your grandmother would probably find some things to be obscene that you would not.
agree. but we nevertheless have laws re: obscenities


10 Commandments. It doesn't matter if the shit was in existence long before any monotheistic religion, the Christians have decided God laid these things on the heart of humans and since we cannot know everything.. well you know. Sodomy is still illegal in some states, probably in Texas actually. Too bad Bogie gets sodomized on the regular here.
the 10 commandments are far from universal. nobody gives a fuck about graven images, working on the sabbath. adultery isnt generally illegal. respecting one's parents isnt always necessary. but either way, who gives a fuck what christians have decided. we also have a first amendment which prohibits the state from making any respecting an establishment of religion.


The things that allow society to exist are the universal values. Respecting other people's sexual choices isn't one of those.
not really. i think there are some basic universal values (no killing, raping, stealing, etc)... but vast majority of laws dont necessarily tie back to them. when slavery was abolished that wasn't a universal value. we have a 14th amendment that says states must give all citizens equal protections under the law, that would presumably include people of different sexual orientations

[Frenchfred]

But you're admitting they are not the same. Some hetero people (Christians again) think "living in sin" is bad and that there's simply no way to not be living in sin if someone is laying with a man the way they'd lay with a woman. But for some others it's just gross and perverted to see it. Personally I couldn't care less.


when I see all the fat f.ck in religious states, I guess that they don’t understand that gluttony is a deadly sin. They should hit the gym instead of caring about gays and trans as judgment day will come for fat people.

[FrostKing]

when I see all the fat f.ck in religious states, I guess that they don’t understand that gluttony is a deadly sin. They should hit the gym instead of caring about gays and trans as judgment day will come for fat people.
Big Euro talk here

[Frenchfred]

Big Euro talk here

I'm not the one who decided that gluttony is a deadly sin and being gay not

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/SX9vthC/image0-2.jpg

[Frenchfred]

https://i.ibb.co/SX9vthC/image0-2.jpg

I didn’t know you were a communist. Thanks for sharing

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1402714237361967110?s=19

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1403414523663425538?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

:lol white people

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1411034515946962944?s=19

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1411034515946962944?s=19

:lol the angry white chick ":cry Gods got this :cry"

I didn't see any ripping going on tho. Overall disappointing bait/click

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1411034515946962944?s=19

Freedom of speech.

[Spurtacular]

:lol the angry white chick ":cry Gods got this :cry"

I didn't see any ripping going on tho. Overall disappointing bait/click

You're mad you didn't see the Bible ripped up, Parishioner Blake (angry white cuck)?

[Adam Lambert]

"Look at this crazy cult tearing up a sacred and holy book that was written by an omnipresent spirit in the sky and tells of miracles as well as rules that we all are required to live by unless we want our spirits to suffer eternal hell when we die!"

[Spurtacular]

"Look at this crazy cult tearing up a sacred and holy book that was written by an omnipresent spirit in the sky and tells of miracles as well as rules that we all are required to live by unless we want our spirits to suffer eternal hell when we die!"

You're so above it, Sadbert!

[koriwhat]

"Look at this crazy cult tearing up a sacred and holy book that was written by an omnipresent spirit in the sky and tells of miracles as well as rules that we all are required to live by unless we want our spirits to suffer eternal hell when we die!"

You bow to the alter of "progressivism" so what's different exactly? You probably put a black square on IG last year, want to defund the police, watch MSM, etc... But yeah tell us more about cults and religion. :tu

[Spurtacular]

You bow to the alter of "progressivism" so what's different exactly? You probably put a black square on IG last year, want to defund the police, watch MSM, etc... But yeah tell us more about cults and religion. :tu

Agreed. He worships what his overlords tell him to worship.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1411446170933682183?s=19

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1411446170933682183?s=19

It's too late. Charlie Sheen was porking that Haim kid right outside in the back of his dressing room trailer and nobody even cared.

[ElNono]

It's too late. Charlie Sheen was porking that Haim kid right outside in the back of his dressing room trailer and nobody even cared.

Just silly to blame it on "hollywood" when the ratio of GOP vs Dem pedos is easily 5:1, tbh...

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1411446170933682183?s=19

:lol Kirstie Alley news :lol

[Spurtacular]

:lol Kirstie Alley news :lol

:lol Self certified cuckold rebuttal :lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1411034515946962944?s=19
:tu

[Spurtacular]

:tu

You being edgy again, attention whore?

[ChumpDumper]

You being edgy again, attention whore?I don't think free speech is necessarily edgy.

Are you offended, derp?

[Spurtacular]

I don't think free speech is necessarily edgy.

Are you offended, derp?

:cry I was merely being misleading is all :cry

:lol Stupid fucking derp

[ChumpDumper]

:cry I was merely being misleading is all :cry

:lol Stupid fucking derp
I'm not being misleading at all, derp.

I don't think free speech is necessarily edgy.

If you thought that was edgy, you're easily offended.

Are you offended, derp?

[Thread]

Just silly to blame it on "hollywood" when the ratio of GOP vs Dem pedos is easily 5:1, tbh...

At once you're a stalwart here, El.

Then you say something so absurd and cockeyed like above and I take pause. Damn ya!

[daboom1]

It's too late. Charlie Sheen was porking that Haim kid right outside in the back of his dressing room trailer and nobody even cared.

Motherfucker Biden likes em young, that's evident.

[Spurtacular]

I'm not being misleading at all, derp.

I don't think free speech is necessarily edgy.

If you thought that was edgy, you're easily offended.

Are you offended, derp?

That's not the meaning you meant to convey, Derp.

You're a weak person and poster. :lol

[Nathan89]

:lol white people

Sup bigot

[ElNono]

At once you're a stalwart here, El.

Then you say something so absurd and cockeyed like above and I take pause. Damn ya!

Happy 4th!

[Spurtacular]

Motherfucker Biden likes em young, that's evident.

Motherfucker Chumpettes not bothered, that's evident.

[Spurtacular]

Nathan89 called you out on your bigotry, Derp.

[daboom1]

Motherfucker Chumpettes not bothered, that's evident.

I'm not bothered by them.

[ChumpDumper]

That's not the meaning you meant to convey, Derp.What meaning did you take from it, derp?

Step up.

[Spurtacular]

What meaning did you take from it?

We both know what you were going for. But :lol that you weaseled out.

[ChumpDumper]

We both know what you were going for.No, derp.

What do you say I was going for, derp?

Step up or weasel out.

[Spurtacular]

No, derp.

What do you say I was going for, derp?

Step up or weasel out.

SPELL IT OUT FOR ME OR YOU LOSE!!!

That's not how it's going to work, Derp.

Keep throwing your trantrum, weasel.

[Spurtacular]

I'm not bothered by them.

Nor should you. They're weak men.

[ChumpDumper]

SPELL IT OUT FOR ME OR YOU LOSE!!!

That's not how it's going to work, Derp.

Keep throwing your trantrum, weasel.You fold, derp.

:lol derp

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1413007580452986881?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1413007580452986881?s=19

:lmao Qhris

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1413211872879337476?s=19

[ElNono]

Just silly to blame it on "hollywood" when the ratio of GOP vs Dem pedos is easily 5:1, tbh...


At once you're a stalwart here, El.

Then you say something so absurd and cockeyed like above and I take pause. Damn ya!

I mean...

Former GOP Hill aide pleads guilty in child porn case
Ruben Verastigui, 27, faces 12 years or more in prison under a deal with prosecutors.

A former GOP staffer and Republican National Committee aide pleaded guilty Friday to a child pornography charge and is facing 12 years or more in prison under a plea deal with prosecutors.

Ruben Verastigui, 27, entered the guilty plea from jail during a video conference hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta in Washington, D.C.

Verastigui admitted to possession of 152 videos and 50 images of child pornography and to receiving and distributing sexual depictions of children.

According to an affidavit filed in the case in February by a Department of Homeland Security investigator, Verastigui sought out images of rape of children during an online chat last year. Prosecutors said Verastigui also fantasized online about killing children while abusing them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/09/former-hill-aide-pleads-guilty-child-porn-498937

[Winehole23]

1413521476289024001

[Thread]

I mean...

Former GOP Hill aide pleads guilty in child porn case
Ruben Verastigui, 27, faces 12 years or more in prison under a deal with prosecutors.

A former GOP staffer and Republican National Committee aide pleaded guilty Friday to a child pornography charge and is facing 12 years or more in prison under a plea deal with prosecutors.

Ruben Verastigui, 27, entered the guilty plea from jail during a video conference hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta in Washington, D.C.

Verastigui admitted to possession of 152 videos and 50 images of child pornography and to receiving and distributing sexual depictions of children.

According to an affidavit filed in the case in February by a Department of Homeland Security investigator, Verastigui sought out images of rape of children during an online chat last year. Prosecutors said Verastigui also fantasized online about killing children while abusing them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/09/former-hill-aide-pleads-guilty-child-porn-498937

I'll counter this:::mother fucker Biden sniffs the little ones.

[Thread]

1413521476289024001

I'll counter this:::mother fucker Biden sniffs the little ones.

[Winehole23]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[daboom1]

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-12080382-6c01-4d40-abb1-a24c275fa639-0-t500x500.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Qhris refuses to condemn the convicted pedophiles in his party.

[Spurtacular]

:lol @ 2224, tbh.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1414434309977481217?s=19

[daboom1]

ho7DkcI_edc

[Ef-man]

How can anyone trust qchrisy if he is a welsher?

Remember?

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287789&highlight=you%20will

[daboom1]

This message is hidden because Ef-man is on your ignore list.

[Ef-man]

Qchrisy the Beep Boop Welsher, hates being reminded of his welshing!

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...ght=you%20will

[Spurtacular]

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/079/191/515/original/3a40dfd8969e1320.png

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1419842696131264517?s=19

"shhh kids it's a secret"

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1419842696131264517?s=19

"shhh kids it's a secret" "a video purportedly shows"

did the DC see the video?

did the video show it or not show it?

lol weasel words

[ElNono]

"a video purportedly shows"

did the DC see the video?

did the video show it or not show it?

lol weasel words

Well, it's Ted Cruz. They don't come any more phony than him.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1419842696131264517?s=19

"shhh kids it's a secret"

Cult left is using public education to indoctrinate children. School choice and School camera transparency are essential.

[Winehole23]

so gullible

[Nathan89]

Phase 1 for cult left: deny anything is happening.

[Winehole23]

Phase 1 for cult right: project and hallucinate.

[ElNono]

Indoctrination only ok when it's the pledge of allegiance or Judeo-Christian religions. When it comes to the country's racist past, it's don't ask, don't tell.

[daboom1]

Cult left is using public education to indoctrinate children. School choice and School camera transparency are essential.

Private Catholic Schools never looked so good. Of course they are using schools and universities to brainwash young adults; it's the only way they can get votes.

[Winehole23]

Private Catholic Schools never looked so good. Of course they are using schools and universities to brainwash young adults; it's the only way they can get votes.I went to private Catholic School.

[daboom1]

I went to private Catholic School.

It failed.

[Winehole23]

It failed.How so?

[daboom1]

How so?

You're here trolling instead of partaking in the sacraments and the Eucharist.

[ElNono]

Private Catholic Schools never looked so good.

I bet you had a grand time with your pedo priest... lmao

[Winehole23]

You're here trolling instead of partaking in the sacraments and the Eucharist.lol slagging Catholic education because it didn't indoctrinate me properly.

what do you think education is for? to teach people to evaluate and think for themselves, or to submit to orthodoxy? :lol

[ElNono]

lol slagging Catholic education because it didn't indoctrinate me properly.

what do you think education is for? to teach people to evaluate and think for themselves, or to submit to orthodoxy? :lol

The education system clearly failed Qhris, tbh... not really the person to ask...

[Winehole23]

lol

where am I supposed to get Communion at 2am?

[Winehole23]

you're not Catholic, are you, Qhris?