Washington Redskins being pressured to change their name

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1278531528394510336?s=19

Cowboys fan here. Not sure how I feel about that. I've hated the Foreskins for a long time. I want them to keep their name.

What's next? Cleveland Indians have to change their names to? Chicago Blackhawks? Washington Nationals? Texas Rangers?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/NBCSRedskins/status/1278452092118728704?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/LightyDMV/status/1278662735581110279?s=09

[LkrFan]

It's gonna happen
https://twitter.com/unklar/status/1278672283939241990?s=19

New stadium = new $$$

[LkrFan]

Should the Kansas City Chiefs change their name too?

[JamStone]

Cleveland Indians absolutely yes, and not necessarily because “Indians” is too offensive. Although the logo probably is. At some point, “Indian” as it refers to Native Americans should be phased out of American culture, common American nomenclature. Not out of racial divide or political correctness, but because it’s born out of a mistake and it’s stupid that it has lasted this long. Columbus believed he was navigating the waves of the Indian Ocean. Mistakenly. Started referring to Natives in the Caribbean and Central and South America as “Indio” and “Indian.” Mistakenly.

Well it wasn’t the Indian Ocean. It wasn’t India. It wasn’t Asia. So why call Native Americans “Indians” for 500 years? It’s not offensive. It’s stupid.

Imagine going to Brazil and every store, restaurant, and home you go to has their AC blasting to a temp of like 60 degrees. You make a comment that these Brazilians must think they’re “Eskimos.” Then for the next 500 years Brazilians are referred to as “South American Eskimos.” Uhhhhhwhat?!

Yes, Cleveland Indians should change the name. Any sports team down to little league and peewee, any business, group, or product referring to Native Americans as “Indians” should change the name. Not because it’s racist. Not because it would be political correct to do so. Not because it would be kind. But because for 500 years it’s been stupid to do so and still is.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1278531528394510336?s=19

Cowboys fan here. Not sure how I feel about that. I've hated the Foreskins for a long time. I want them to keep their name.

What's next? Cleveland Indians have to change their names to? Chicago Blackhawks? Washington Nationals? Texas Rangers?

They should change it to the Blackskins to honor BLM. That way it's totally not offensive.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1278531528394510336?s=19

Cowboys fan here. Not sure how I feel about that. I've hated the Foreskins for a long time. I want them to keep their name.

What's next? Cleveland Indians have to change their names to? Chicago Blackhawks? Washington Nationals? Texas Rangers?

But they really should get rid of that stupid Cleveland Indian logo with the big teeth

[LkrFan]

Cleveland Indians absolutely yes, and not necessarily because “Indians” is too offensive. Although the logo probably is. At some point, “Indian” as it refers to Native Americans should be phased out of American culture, common American nomenclature. Not out of racial divide or political correctness, but because it’s born out of a mistake and it’s stupid that it has lasted this long. Columbus believed he was navigating the waves of the Indian Ocean. Mistakenly. Started referring to Natives in the Caribbean and Central and South America as “Indio” and “Indian.” Mistakenly.

Well it wasn’t the Indian Ocean. It wasn’t India. It wasn’t Asia. So why call Native Americans “Indians” for 500 years? It’s not offensive. It’s stupid.

Imagine going to Brazil and every store, restaurant, and home you go to has their AC blasting to a temp of like 60 degrees. You make a comment that these Brazilians must think they’re “Eskimos.” Then for the next 500 years Brazilians are referred to as “South American Eskimos.” Uhhhhhwhat?!

Yes, Cleveland Indians should change the name. Any sports team down to little league and peewee, any business, group, or product referring to Native Americans as “Indians” should change the name. Not because it’s racist. Not because it would be political correct to do so. Not because it would be kind. But because for 500 years it’s been stupid to do so and still is.

Jam with the goods per par. Agreed 100% :tu

[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

But they really should get rid of that stupid Cleveland Indian logo with the big teeth
That shit's funny :lol


They should change it to the Blackskins to honor BLM. That way it's totally not offensive.

Hell nawl :lol

[Blake]

You gotta kidding me son :lol

? Why

[LkrFan]

? Why

I misquoted the wrong post. My bad.

[weebo]

orangeskins

[ducks]

Are we alllowed to play cowboys and Indians in our back yard ?

[baseline bum]

Are we alllowed to play cowboys and Indians in our back yard ?

You let your kids rape and murder in the back yard?

[LkrFan]

orangeskins

In honor of 45? :lol

[LkrFan]

Are we alllowed to play cowboys and Indians in our back yard ?

Good point son :lol

[hater]

You let your kids rape and murder in the back yard?

:lol

[Trill Clinton]

the cleveland caucasians have a nice ring to it

https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--TZciThPy--/t_Resized%20Artwork/c_fit,g_north_west,h_954,w_954/co_262c3a,e_outline:48/co_262c3a,e_outline:inner_fill:48/co_ffffff,e_outline:48/co_ffffff,e_outline:inner_fill:48/co_bbbbbb,e_outline:3:1000/c_mpad,g_center,h_1260,w_1260/b_rgb:eeeeee/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1463171974/production/designs/511354_1.jpg

[hater]

WASHINGTON BLACK LIVES MATTER would be a great name tbqh

[LkrFan]

the cleveland caucasians have a nice ring to it

https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--TZciThPy--/t_Resized%20Artwork/c_fit,g_north_west,h_954,w_954/co_262c3a,e_outline:48/co_262c3a,e_outline:inner_fill:48/co_ffffff,e_outline:48/co_ffffff,e_outline:inner_fill:48/co_bbbbbb,e_outline:3:1000/c_mpad,g_center,h_1260,w_1260/b_rgb:eeeeee/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1463171974/production/designs/511354_1.jpg

:lmao

[i'm_still_beta]

the cleveland caucasians have a nice ring to it

https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--TZciThPy--/t_Resized%20Artwork/c_fit,g_north_west,h_954,w_954/co_262c3a,e_outline:48/co_262c3a,e_outline:inner_fill:48/co_ffffff,e_outline:48/co_ffffff,e_outline:inner_fill:48/co_bbbbbb,e_outline:3:1000/c_mpad,g_center,h_1260,w_1260/b_rgb:eeeeee/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1463171974/production/designs/511354_1.jpg

Wow, so offensive. I'm beyond myself. As a white man, I can tell you that my anger is indescribable:madrun

[Spurtacular]

The Washington Butthurt
The Washington Snowflakes

I can live with one of those. :lol

[FrostKing]

Cleveland Indians absolutely yes, and not necessarily because “Indians” is too offensive. Although the logo probably is. At some point, “Indian” as it refers to Native Americans should be phased out of American culture, common American nomenclature. Not out of racial divide or political correctness, but because it’s born out of a mistake and it’s stupid that it has lasted this long. Columbus believed he was navigating the waves of the Indian Ocean. Mistakenly. Started referring to Natives in the Caribbean and Central and South America as “Indio” and “Indian.” Mistakenly.

Well it wasn’t the Indian Ocean. It wasn’t India. It wasn’t Asia. So why call Native Americans “Indians” for 500 years? It’s not offensive. It’s stupid.

Imagine going to Brazil and every store, restaurant, and home you go to has their AC blasting to a temp of like 60 degrees. You make a comment that these Brazilians must think they’re “Eskimos.” Then for the next 500 years Brazilians are referred to as “South American Eskimos.” Uhhhhhwhat?!

Yes, Cleveland Indians should change the name. Any sports team down to little league and peewee, any business, group, or product referring to Native Americans as “Indians” should change the name. Not because it’s racist. Not because it would be political correct to do so. Not because it would be kind. But because for 500 years it’s been stupid to do so and still is.
Barely see much remembrance of Native Americans in this nation anymore. I became a Braves baseball and FSU football fan in major part because of the N.Indian representation. By far the coolest with physical tools and vocal chants.

Fortunately for FSU, they have an actual tribe in their corner. Should the Indians/Redskins simply change logos/team names or also team colors. Imagine the awkwardness when fans continue wearing it. You are hoping it fazes out over decades. No more Chicago Blackhawks?

By the way not sure if aware but the Indians cancelled the logo. It is now just an awkward C.


https://i.ibb.co/jvwsPJJ/Screen-Shot-2020-07-03-at-12-12-44-AM.png (https://ibb.co/PZW0vDD)

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/LightyDMV/status/1278662735581110279?s=09

Just more marchers Soros paid to march.

LOL At the weak males like Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) who probably cuckplied cuckport for free, though. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

S:lolr:lols

[Millennial_Messiah]

Cleveland Indians absolutely yes, and not necessarily because “Indians” is too offensive. Although the logo probably is. At some point, “Indian” as it refers to Native Americans should be phased out of American culture, common American nomenclature. Not out of racial divide or political correctness, but because it’s born out of a mistake and it’s stupid that it has lasted this long. Columbus believed he was navigating the waves of the Indian Ocean. Mistakenly. Started referring to Natives in the Caribbean and Central and South America as “Indio” and “Indian.” Mistakenly.

Well it wasn’t the Indian Ocean. It wasn’t India. It wasn’t Asia. So why call Native Americans “Indians” for 500 years? It’s not offensive. It’s stupid.

Imagine going to Brazil and every store, restaurant, and home you go to has their AC blasting to a temp of like 60 degrees. You make a comment that these Brazilians must think they’re “Eskimos.” Then for the next 500 years Brazilians are referred to as “South American Eskimos.” Uhhhhhwhat?!

Yes, Cleveland Indians should change the name. Any sports team down to little league and peewee, any business, group, or product referring to Native Americans as “Indians” should change the name. Not because it’s racist. Not because it would be political correct to do so. Not because it would be kind. But because for 500 years it’s been stupid to do so and still is.

As a conservative I agree with this post. I almost always say "Native American" or at worst, "American Indian". Maybe part of it is that I've worked with actual Indians from India for the past umpteen years. The only time I refer to Native Americans as Indian is when talking about "Indian reservations" because they're almost ubiquitously still called that.

[Monostradamus]

Just more marchers Soros paid to march.

LOL At the weak males like Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) who probably cuckplied cuckport for free, though. :lmao
Imagine being on the wrong end of a culture war blowout, and instead of reassessing your own shitty values, you lash out like a pissy sore loser :lmao

[Monostradamus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VyfP0AkQbw

[FrostKing]

A nation obsessed with skin color. Why not Redskin?

This isn't a case of right or wrong. But instead: enough rich people got involved and want something

[DMC]

It's outdated and they haven't done shit. The actual Indians have won since the Redskins have.

[hater]

:lmao the stupid fucks tgat meltdown over changing this racist name

I have a vietnamse niga friend whos livid :lmao

[Monostradamus]

A nation obsessed with skin color. Why not Redskin?

This isn't a case of right or wrong. But instead: enough rich people got involved and want something
Shut up, cunt.

[FrostKing]

:lmao the stupid fucks tgat meltdown over changing this racist name

I have a vietnamse niga friend whos livid :lmao
"The word hurts my feelings"

[DMC]

"The word hurts my feelings"

No team should be named after a derogatory word for an entire race/ethnic group of people. How about the New Jersey Kikes?

[hater]

"The word hurts my feelings"

I can see some native americans who would say that and I respect that tbqh and understand completely

[Monostradamus]

No team should be named after a derogatory word for an entire race/ethnic group of people. How about the New Jersey Kikes?
Sheboygan Polacks

[DMX7]

It’s going to happen. If sponsors start applying pressure, and they are, then the name will be changed. It’s sad that money is the sole motivator for change in many cases but it is what it is.

[FrostKing]

Sheboygan Polacks
Polish language has a word for black person "murzyn". From time to time Polaks from the west will debate whether this word should be censored/eliminated

I always had a whatever opinion on the matter. I personally never used the word preferring to just say Polish version of "black"

But after what I've seen over the past 3 months - I will defend the use of the word. The lesson: if you aren't willing to give them everything, then give them nothing. You give these people one inch and they want a mile. Don't show weakness. Don't apologize. The Mob will just become louder and more demanding.

[Reck]

Polish language has a word for black person "murzyn". From time to time Polaks from the west will debate whether this word should be censored/eliminated

I always had a whatever opinion on the matter. I personally never used the word preferring to just say Polish version of "black"

But after what I've seen over the past 3 months - I will defend the use of the word. The lesson: if you aren't willing to give them everything, then give them nothing. You give these people one inch and they want a mile. Don't show weakness. Don't apologize. The Mob will just become louder and more demanding.

They can keep it, just as long as they pay their own bills.

When you're dependent on sponsors and a whopping 600B figure backing you, you do whatever the fuck they want.

[hater]

Polish language has a word for black person "murzyn". From time to time Polaks from the west will debate whether this word should be censored/eliminated

I always had a whatever opinion on the matter. I personally never used the word preferring to just say Polish version of "black"

But after what I've seen over the past 3 months - I will defend the use of the word. The lesson: if you aren't willing to give them everything, then give them nothing. You give these people one inch and they want a mile. Don't show weakness. Don't apologize. The Mob will just become louder and more demanding.

I disagree

Let them do it. Eventually the mob will turn on itself and tear itself appart. Then we can start from scratch again

[Xevious]

Unless you're also cool with names like the Arizona Wetbacks, New York Niggas, San Francisco Slopes... Redskins have to go.

[Splits]

1279085851012669440

[FrostKing]

1279085851012669440
"that Native Americans have long objected to racially offensive"

And it wasn't serious enough until the rich old white guys stepped in?

[hater]

"that Native Americans have long objected to racially offensive"

And it wasn't serious enough until the rich old white guys stepped in?

Keep in mind barbaric amaricans had bounties for dead redskins just up until 400 years ago.

[Monostradamus]

"that Native Americans have long objected to racially offensive"

And it wasn't serious enough until the rich old white guys stepped in?
Yeah, we live in a shitty world. Bullshit like this is defended until rich old white guys with billions of dollars are threatened with losing money.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1279122144501231616?s=19

[FrostKing]

Americans preoccupied with sports teams, waffle syrup, and derogatory terms instead of raising their children

[ChumpDumper]

Americans preoccupied with sports teams, waffle syrup, and derogatory terms instead of raising their childrenYou're preoccupied with whining about this.

[Monostradamus]

https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1279122144501231616?s=19
It’s a racist term and needs to go away, but also it’s not “just like the n-word”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU6XyweX0AIjAuW.jpg

[tholdren]

You're preoccupied with whining about this.

Lol your posting.

[DMC]

Keep in mind barbaric amaricans had bounties for dead redskins just up until 400 years ago.

:lmao

1851 wasn't 400 years ago

[DMC]

Americans preoccupied with sports teams, waffle syrup, and derogatory terms instead of raising their children

Speaking of occupied..

[Spurminator]

If you wouldn't name a brand new team with whatever name is being discussed, you probably shouldn't keep it.

Change is okay.

[DMC]

If you wouldn't name a brand new team with whatever name is being discussed, you probably shouldn't keep it.

Change is okay.

Like the Pelicans.

[FrostKing]

It’s a racist term and needs to go away, but also it’s not “just like the n-word”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU6XyweX0AIjAuW.jpg
Unless you can find me Indians calling each other Redskins and putting it in their music, it is worse

Blacks make you bow to the N-word for control

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1278531528394510336?s=19

Cowboys fan here. Not sure how I feel about that. I've hated the Foreskins for a long time. I want them to keep their name.

What's next? Cleveland Indians have to change their names to? Chicago Blackhawks? Washington Nationals? Texas Rangers?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1279213890740649986?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1279209378491613185?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ACTBrigitte/status/1279215245089701889?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ACTBrigitte/status/1279215245089701889?s=19Brigitte seems pretty miserable now tbh.

[Spurtacular]

It’s a racist term and needs to go away, but also it’s not “just like the n-word”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU6XyweX0AIjAuW.jpg

Maybe he shouldn't be a snowflake and say the word that millions say daily.

:lmao Stupid fucking slob

[clambake]

Don’t change the name.

You guys think they named themselves and their team after something they'd despise?

[Splits]

1279102940708560897

[FkLA]

"that Native Americans have long objected to racially offensive"

And it wasn't serious enough until the rich old white guys stepped in?

It would've been changed years ago if they were the blackskins. Draymond got Silver to change NBA owners official titles to governors within a few days and that wasnt even anywhere close to being this offensive.

Only BLM tbh.

[Native American]

Not that offended, if you ask me. But perhaps the offensive part has more to do with sexual perversion than racial discrimination. The wife’s cookie lips are bright cherry red. And when I lick em up and wet em up, those little roast beef slices get juicy red. I’ll tell you something, when I get her red taco swimming in my Sioux Falls. Now that’s what I call washing her redskins.

[DMC]

1279102940708560897

:lol

The Washington Savages..

D.C Squaws

[Monostradamus]

It would've been changed years ago if they were the blackskins. Draymond got Silver to change NBA owners official titles to governors within a few days and that wasnt even anywhere close to being this offensive.

Only BLM tbh.
Mexicans are the real victims here.

[DMC]

Mexicans are the real victims here.

Fighting over victimhood position. The day and age were in where it's desirable to be a victim.

[pgardn]

Dont change the name.
Its a business decision for the NFL and the team.

Do the financial experiment. Stand pat, should be interesting.

[ducks]

Maybe redskins can can change name to

19 Names The Redskins Could Adopt Just To Tick Off The Woke Mob

Washington Founders

Washington Liberty

Washington Red Elephants

Washington Minute Men

Washington Jeffersons

Washington Colonials

Washington Columbuses

Washington Conquistadors

Washington Capitalists

Washington Founding Fathers

Washington Columbians

Washington MAGAs

Washington Deplorables

Washington Winners-Off-The-Field

Washington White Fragilities

Washington Vince Fosters

Washington Carpetbaggers

Washington Monuments

Washington 45’s

[FkLA]

You call it victimhood. I call it calling out black privilege.

[baseline bum]

Fighting over victimhood position. The day and age were in where it's desirable to be a victim.

Trump used it to get elected four years ago, it's pretty powerful tbh.

[FkLA]

Oh and btw, we are changing it because Native Americans find it offensive but let's just make it all about the most important minority while we're at it:

BLM ✊🏿

https://twitter.com/Rich8LambertJr/status/1279080756334166017?s=19

[Monostradamus]

:cry On and btw, we are changing it because Native Americans find it offensive :cry but let's just make it all about the most important minority while we're at it:

:cry BLM ✊

https://twitter.com/Rich8LambertJr/status/1279080756334166017?s=19
That’s just a design from some random dude on twitter.

The organization already said they’re picking a name that honors Native Americans.

But keep crying.

[FkLA]

That’s just a design from some random dude on twitter.

The organization already said they’re picking a name that honors Native Americans.

But keep crying.

That's unfortunate. Have you seen how much people love that idea? America is going to be so disappointed.

[LkrFan]

Update
https://twitter.com/swansncompany_/status/1279924766674169858?s=09

:lol

[lefty]

Spurs is discriminatory to horses tbh

Change the name, Pop!

[Blake]

Maybe redskins can can change name to

19 Names The Redskins Could Adopt Just To Tick Off The Woke Mob

Washington Founders

Washington Liberty

Washington Red Elephants

Washington Minute Men

Washington Jeffersons

Washington Colonials

Washington Columbuses

Washington Conquistadors

Washington Capitalists

Washington Founding Fathers

Washington Columbians

Washington MAGAs

Washington Deplorables

Washington Winners-Off-The-Field

Washington White Fragilities

Washington Vince Fosters

Washington Carpetbaggers

Washington Monuments

Washington 45’s

duckflakes part of the snow mob

[Blake]

It would've been changed years ago if they were the blackskins. Draymond got Silver to change NBA owners official titles to governors within a few days and that wasnt even anywhere close to being this offensive.

Only BLM tbh.

Yup they would have taken down the Mississippi flag years ago if it was...oh wait

[DMC]

Oh and btw, we are changing it because Native Americans find it offensive but let's just make it all about the most important minority while we're at it:

BLM ✊🏿

https://twitter.com/Rich8LambertJr/status/1279080756334166017?s=19

Silly since Tuskegee isnt in Washington.

[SpursforSix]

How about the Washington WillieFisters?

[Brazil]

You let your kids rape and murder in the back yard?

:lol

[boutons_deux]

From: Paul Meyer <[email protected]>
Date: July 6, 2020 at 11:10:20 AM EDT
Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fw: The Washington Foreskins


I think all sports fans and most everybody else will get a kick out of this letter written to the Chicago Tribune. No matter which side you are on in the matter of renaming the Washington Redskins, this is funny. This guy is hilarious...


This is an e-mail sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins


Dear Mr. Page: I agree with our Native American population. I am
highly jilted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins.

One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward.


Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the
Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the
reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.


The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.


The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives. I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.


Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!


Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.


The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children. The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates. Wrong message to our children.


The Milwaukee Brewers. Well that goes without saying. Wrong message to our children.


So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing Congress loves.


As a die-hard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in
mind, suggest it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers (especially when they play Southern California. Do we really want the Trojans sticking it to the Beavers???


I always love your articles and I generally agree with them. As for
the Redskins name I would suggest they change the name to the
"Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Washington DC.

[ducks]

From: Paul Meyer <[email protected]>
Date: July 6, 2020 at 11:10:20 AM EDT
Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fw: The Washington Foreskins


I think all sports fans and most everybody else will get a kick out of this letter written to the Chicago Tribune. No matter which side you are on in the matter of renaming the Washington Redskins, this is funny. This guy is hilarious...


This is an e-mail sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins


Dear Mr. Page: I agree with our Native American population. I am
highly jilted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins.

One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward.


Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the
Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the
reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.


The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.


The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives. I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.


Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!


Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.


The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children. The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates. Wrong message to our children.


The Milwaukee Brewers. Well that goes without saying. Wrong message to our children.


So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing Congress loves.


As a die-hard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in
mind, suggest it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers (especially when they play Southern California. Do we really want the Trojans sticking it to the Beavers???


I always love your articles and I generally agree with them. As for
the Redskins name I would suggest they change the name to the
"Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Washington DC.

[Spurminator]

They should change it to the Washington Bullets.

[FkLA]

Yup they would have taken down the Mississippi flag years ago if it was...oh wait

Dude we live in a time where your career can be ruined for defending yourself against a thug aiming a taser at you. Just because that thug has dark skin.

All they had do was ask. They have black privilege, tbh.




Silly since Tuskegee isnt in Washington.

Yeah, but it's super pro-black so the masses love it!

[midnightpulp]

Dude we live in a time where your career can be ruined for defending yourself against a thug aiming a taser at you. Just because that thug has dark skin.

All they had do was ask. They have black privilege, tbh.





Yeah, but it's super pro-black so the masses love it!

Not a fan of BLM, bro?

[Blake]

Dude we live in a time where your career can be ruined for defending yourself against a thug aiming a taser at you. Just because that thug has dark skin.

All they had do was ask. They have black privilege, tbh.





Yeah, but it's super pro-black so the masses love it!

The brown snowflake narrative

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/frntofficesport/status/1280517427982290944?s=19

:tu

[LkrFan]

Dude we live in a time where your career can be ruined for defending yourself against a thug aiming a taser at you. Just because that thug has dark skin.

All they had do was ask. They have black privilege, tbh.





Yeah, but it's super pro-black so the masses love it!

Black privilege in AmeriKKKa? FOH :lol

[FrostKing]

Meanwhile black player posting Hitler & Farrakhan quotes on social media

:lol

[FkLA]

Not a fan of BLM, bro?

Not really. Are you?

[spurraider21]

Not a fan of BLM, bro?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285904

[Monostradamus]

Not a fan of BLM, bro?
Black people putting in all this effort to better themselves annoys him for whatever reason.

[Will Hunting]

Black people putting in all this effort to better themselves annoys him for whatever reason.
To be fair it’s not just him, I’ve noticed that Hispanics in general more just as if not more triggered by BLM than conservatives do.

They seem butthurt about the fact that they don’t receive as much white guilt pity as black people do.

[spurraider21]

To be fair it’s not just him, I’ve noticed that Hispanics in general more just as if not more triggered by BLM than conservatives do.

They seem butthurt about the fact that they don’t receive as much white guilt pity as black people do.
most of the "social justice" outrage during trump's campaign and early term was aimed at the border wall, hispanic immigration, DACA, etc.

that and the muslim ban. like i said in his thread, FkLA's shtick is an actual example of the oppression olympics that people on the right mock

[Monostradamus]

To be fair it’s not just him, I’ve noticed that Hispanics in general more just as if not more triggered by BLM than conservatives do.

They seem butthurt about the fact that they don’t receive as much white guilt pity as black people do.
They could get off their asses and start Brown Lives Matter, but apparently the only thing Mexicans love more than border jumping with a 5 year old kid is pretending that their victimhood was forced on them :lol

[midnightpulp]

Not really. Are you?

The non-fringe aspects of the movement are fine, sticking to reforming law enforcement in order to eliminate police brutality. The "cancel culture" fringe aspects of the movement are idiotic and counterproductive, though. No, I'm not committing a fuckin' "microaggression" because I asked a tall black dude if he played basketball. I asked him because he was tall. That's a core issue with the more fringe elements of BLM and any other SJW movements, interpreting everything through the lens of race. I'm a bleeding heart, but I also abhor political correctness as a way to police speech. Every Spurstalker should be against political correctness, since this is why we came to this site, to call each other bean3rs, call certain basketball play styles "monkeyball," joke about the non-success of black coaches and black quarterbacks, call people honkies and white trash (Avante's family), stinky Pakis, and what have you.

I also never really liked the catch phrase because I knew how the right would spin it and it also obscures the fact that many other races are victims of police brutality. The stats actually show police brutality is rather proportional. But I don't doubt cops racially profile blacks at a higher proportion.

[spurraider21]

The non-fringe aspects of the movement are fine, sticking to reforming law enforcement in order to eliminate police brutality. The "cancel culture" fringe aspects of the movement are idiotic and counterproductive, though. No, I'm not committing a fuckin' "microaggression" because I asked a tall black dude if he played basketball. I asked him because he was tall. That's a core issue with the more fringe elements of BLM and any other SJW movements, interpreting everything through the lens of race. I'm a bleeding heart, but I also abhor political correctness as a way to police speech. Every Spurstalker should be against political correctness, since this is why we came to this site, to call each other bean3rs, call certain basketball play styles "monkeyball," joke about the non-success of black coaches and black quarterbacks, call people honkies and white trash (Avante's family), stinky Pakis, and what have you.

I also never really liked the catch phrase because I knew how the right would spin it and it also obscures the fact that many other races are victims of police brutality. The stats actually show police brutality is rather proportional. But I don't doubt cops racially profile blacks at a higher proportion.
class/economics ties into it as well. black people are significantly more likely to be in poverty (for a multitude of reasons, some degree of it being choice/culture but a non-insignificant amount attributable to historic and systemic issues). poverty correlates quite well with property and violent crimes, more policing in those areas, etc etc. even if it cant be demonstrated that a cop is more prone to excessive force when dealing with a black suspect, there's still no doubt that the black community is disproportionately impacted by bad policing, in general

[midnightpulp]

class/economics ties into it as well. black people are significantly more likely to be in poverty. poverty correlates quick well with property and violent crimes, more policing in those areas, etc etc. even if it cant be demonstrated that a cop is more prone to excessive force when dealing with a black suspect, there's still no doubt that the black community is disproportionately impacted by bad policing, in general

Indeed. The big right talking point is citing those brutality stats and then pointing out there really isn't a disproportionate amount of police brutality against blacks because they find themselves in many more police encounters, which is true. But they never ask "why" they find themselves in more police encounters. If you do, you'll get a quasi-bigoted response of, "They need to fix their culture!"


Most controversially, he says a "black culture of violence" explains much of the crime rise: "[T]he black migration to cities, especially the big cities of the North, brought a culture of violence to the urban landscape. The effects of migration by a group with historically high levels of violence were compounded by the increase in young males within the African American population."

The thesis isn’t totally new. Conservatives, in particular, have long argued that culture contributes to the massive crime and violence problem seen in inner-city black communities. But Latzer offers a fairly prominent, scholarly example of this argument.

Nonsense, of course. It's poverty. Always is. Look at how the murder rate spiked in the Us following our biggest immigration year ever through Ellis Island (1907):

https://slate.com/business/2013/05/u-s-murder-rate-rick-nevin-says-it-s-the-lowest-in-a-century.html

And kept going up and up, even before prohibition. Of course we saw the biggest influx of Southern Europeans and Irish during that time. Guess Italians and Irish need to "fix their culture."

[ducks]

Maybe wAshington swamp

[Blake]

Maybe wAshington swamp

Well it never got drained so there's that

[FkLA]

The non-fringe aspects of the movement are fine, sticking to reforming law enforcement in order to eliminate police brutality. The "cancel culture" fringe aspects of the movement are idiotic and counterproductive, though. No, I'm not committing a fuckin' "microaggression" because I asked a tall black dude if he played basketball. I asked him because he was tall. That's a core issue with the more fringe elements of BLM and any other SJW movements, interpreting everything through the lens of race. I'm a bleeding heart, but I also abhor political correctness as a way to police speech. Every Spurstalker should be against political correctness, since this is why we came to this site, to call each other bean3rs, call certain basketball play styles "monkeyball," joke about the non-success of black coaches and black quarterbacks, call people honkies and white trash (Avante's family), stinky Pakis, and what have you.

I also never really liked the catch phrase because I knew how the right would spin it and it also obscures the fact that many other races are victims of police brutality. The stats actually show police brutality is rather proportional. But I don't doubt cops racially profile blacks at a higher proportion.

Anybody that isn't a piece of shit would want less police brutality/killings. That aspect of the movement is fine.

I'm just not a fan of half truths and lack of accountability. There's a lot wrong with black culture that gets blamed on others. Absentee fathers, being the majority in prison, glorifying being hood, objectifying women, putting down respectable black people for being "too white". Police reform isn't going to change most of that. And yeah, this level of political correctness is just dumb. If I said any of those things publicly, even though they're all true, I'd be labeled a racist. The other day I was told told I hate black people because I said something along the lines of "Floyd had a lengthy criminal record, was high, and resisted arrest after committing a crime but he was still needlessly murdered". Apparently I have to think Floyd was a saint who was needlessly murdered. I find completely insane that that cop and chief in Atlanta had their careers destroyed just because the thug with the taser had dark skin.

And yeah, it does chap my ass a little that apparently black people matter more than other minorities.

[Monostradamus]

Anybody that isn't a piece of shit would want less police brutality/killings. That aspect of the movement is fine.

I'm just not a fan of half truths and lack of accountability. There's a lot wrong with black culture that gets blamed on others. Absentee fathers, being the majority in prison, glorifying being hood, objectifying women, putting down respectable black people for being "too white". Police reform isn't going to change most of that. And yeah, this level of political correctness is just dumb. If I said any of those things publicly, even though they're all true, I'd be labeled a racist. The other day I was told told I hate black people because I said something along the lines of "Floyd had a lengthy criminal record, was high, and resisted arrest after committing a crime but he was still needlessly murdered". Apparently I have to think Floyd was a saint who was needlessly murdered. I find completely insane that that cop and chief in Atlanta had their careers destroyed just because the thug with the taser had dark skin.

And yeah, it does chap my ass a little that apparently black people matter more than other minorities.
You’re definitely gonna have a daughter who gets knocked up by a black guy :lmao

[Will Hunting]

FkLA's shtick is an actual example of the oppression olympics that people on the right mock
Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[SnakeBoy]

The non-fringe aspects of the movement are fine, sticking to reforming law enforcement in order to eliminate police brutality. The "cancel culture" fringe aspects of the movement are idiotic and counterproductive, though. No, I'm not committing a fuckin' "microaggression" because I asked a tall black dude if he played basketball. I asked him because he was tall. That's a core issue with the more fringe elements of BLM and any other SJW movements, interpreting everything through the lens of race. I'm a bleeding heart, but I also abhor political correctness as a way to police speech. Every Spurstalker should be against political correctness, since this is why we came to this site, to call each other bean3rs, call certain basketball play styles "monkeyball," joke about the non-success of black coaches and black quarterbacks, call people honkies and white trash (Avante's family), stinky Pakis, and what have you.


Sup faggot?

[Will Hunting]

And yeah, it does chap my ass a little that apparently black people matter more than other minorities.
The fact black people are here because their ancestors were literally chained to slave ships and brought here involuntarily while other minorities are here because their ancestors moved here for a “better life” is always going to give blacks a leg up in the victim olympics. Sorry but that’s just how it is.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you on other issues with black culture though. The militant BLM supporters should also be taking some of their frustration out on older black folk for carrying Joe Biden, one of the architects of police brutality against black people, to a primary victory.

[ElNono]

The fact black people are here because their ancestors were literally chained to slave ships and brought here involuntarily while other minorities are here because their ancestors moved here for a “better life” is always going to give blacks a leg up in the victim olympics. Sorry but that’s just how it is.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you on other issues with black culture though. The militant BLM supporters should also be taking some of their frustration out on older black folk for carrying Joe Biden, one of the architects of police brutality against black people, to a primary victory.

Well said. These thing will happen though, but it'll take time. Look at Florida's Cubans for an example. They always have been a solid voting block for republicans, due to being handed insta-amnesty since Reagan, but the 2nd or 3rd generation kid is starting to break off from that.

[midnightpulp]

The fact black people are here because their ancestors were literally chained to slave ships and brought here involuntarily while other minorities are here because their ancestors moved here for a “better life” is always going to give blacks a leg up in the victim olympics. Sorry but that’s just how it is.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you on other issues with black culture though. The militant BLM supporters should also be taking some of their frustration out on older black folk for carrying Joe Biden, one of the architects of police brutality against black people, to a primary victory.

One of the issues with some in the BLM movement (I'm not going to define BLM as having a single unified vision. The group seems rather splintered in "what they want") is indeed their consistency of who they target and "cancel." Many Dem/Lib politicians/entertainers are "off limits," but so are many so-called "leaders" in the African American community, even figures important to the BLM movement. I think Kaepernick is a huge phony. White-washed black guy who started appropriating the fro and militant "black power" stance when it was most convenient. Okay, he got "woke." We'll give him a break. But then the shitheel partners up with Nike :lol. Harlem always joked about how Nike and Jordan have gotten more people killed in the black community than anything else :lol

Here's a company that was a known exploiter of child labor for decades and specifically targeted urban communities with their products they knew they couldn't afford. Yeah, how do you think is going to turn out during the crack epidemic and such? And why do any black people still pay attention to what Al Sharpton has to say?

[clambake]

Good stuff, fellas....minus the awkward

Anyway, don’t change the name. An NFL team naming themselves Redskins from the very beginning is a show of honor. It’s the best a bunch of white rich guys could agree on back then. The Cleveland Indians....keep it for Christ sake or be selective.

Shawnee Apache Sioux Choctaw....and on.

Most of the people bitching about this will probably bitch about the Cleveland browns.

[FrostKing]

The fact black people are here because their ancestors were literally chained to slave ships and brought here involuntarily while other minorities are here because their ancestors moved here for a “better life” is always going to give blacks a leg up in the victim olympics. Sorry but that’s just how it is.

Current state of Africa should make them more grateful (than other migrants) but the typical American black never steps foot on African soil

[Will Hunting]

One of the issues with some in the BLM movement (I'm not going to define BLM as having a single unified vision. The group seems rather splintered in "what they want") is indeed their consistency of who they target and "cancel." Many Dem/Lib politicians/entertainers are "off limits," but so are many so-called "leaders" in the African American community, even figures important to the BLM movement. I think Kaepernick is a huge phony. White-washed black guy who started appropriating the fro and militant "black power" stance when it was most convenient. Okay, he got "woke." We'll give him a break. But then the shitheel partners up with Nike :lol. Harlem always joked about how Nike and Jordan have gotten more people killed in the black community than anything else :lol

Here's a company that was a known exploiter of child labor for decades and specifically targeted urban communities with their products they knew they couldn't afford. Yeah, how do you think is going to turn out during the crack epidemic and such? And why do any black people still pay attention to what Al Sharpton has to say?
I don’t think Kaepernick is a savior but I also don’t think he’s a problem for the black community.

Black people need to realize that it’s going to take monumental, New Deal style reform to address the larger problems the black community faces. The minor changes establishment Dems propose (raising the top marginal tax rate by 5-10% and adding a crappy public option to Obamacare) might help but it won’t be anything meaningful. When Biden runs his campaign platform on “people don’t want a revolution” the black communities response should be with protests saying a revolution is exactly what they want.

[Monostradamus]

Current state of Africa should make them more grateful (than other migrants) but the typical American black never steps foot on African soil
Shut up, faggot

[midnightpulp]

I don’t think Kaepernick is a savior but I also don’t think he’s a problem for the black community.

Black people need to realize that it’s going to take monumental, New Deal style reform to address the larger problems the black community faces. The minor changes establishment Dems propose (raising the top marginal tax rate by 5-10% and adding a crappy public option to Obamacare) might help but it won’t be anything meaningful. When Biden runs his campaign platform on “people don’t want a revolution” the black communities response should be with protests saying a revolution is exactly what they want.

I'll even go further and say it's going to take this kind of reform to address the large problems in every community that is struggling middle-class or below.

I just don't know how that's going to be achieved, though. Once Covid dies down, every American should be filled in the streets demanding single-payer healthcare. This pandemic has clearly revealed the flaws in our merciless for profit system. But there won't be protests. The core issues are that many Americans have become beaten down and have just accepted that the system will never change and they feel their time is better focused on just taking care of themselves and their families. Then we have a much too large percentage of Americans who believe universal healthcare was hatched by the Communist Devil himself.

Other reforms like increased taxes on the rich, UBI, free college, prison reform, and such will face the same challenges of an apathetic and disbelieving population. I think what needs to change for these reforms to ever have a chance of being realized is our collective cultural mentality. Rabid individualism and "bootstrap-ism" are at the heart of our cultural sickness. We prize getting rich above everything else in this country, and it's created a collective nation of sociopaths who feel they are 100 percent entitled to their spoils because they've "earned it," while the poor get what they deserve because "they just didn't want to work hard enough."

It's been pointed out that the core differences between liberals and conservative is the latter believes in the "just world fallacy." Simply put:


The just-world fallacy or just-world hypothesis is the cognitive bias (or assumption) that a person's actions are inherently inclined to bring morally fair and fitting consequences to that person, to the end of all noble actions being eventually rewarded and all evil actions eventually punished.

The rich are rich because they deserve it. The poor are poor because they deserve it.

[ElNono]

One of the issues with some in the BLM movement (I'm not going to define BLM as having a single unified vision. The group seems rather splintered in "what they want") is indeed their consistency of who they target and "cancel." Many Dem/Lib politicians/entertainers are "off limits," but so are many so-called "leaders" in the African American community, even figures important to the BLM movement. I think Kaepernick is a huge phony. White-washed black guy who started appropriating the fro and militant "black power" stance when it was most convenient. Okay, he got "woke." We'll give him a break. But then the shitheel partners up with Nike :lol. Harlem always joked about how Nike and Jordan have gotten more people killed in the black community than anything else :lol

Here's a company that was a known exploiter of child labor for decades and specifically targeted urban communities with their products they knew they couldn't afford. Yeah, how do you think is going to turn out during the crack epidemic and such? And why do any black people still pay attention to what Al Sharpton has to say?

I mentioned this tangentially before. Unlike the Civil Rights movement, these people are way more splintered and disorganized.

This causes all sorts of problems, from making it easier to infiltrate protests, to having a large, organized display, to having a coherent message, etc. Which really does them a disservice in many ways.

While I think most people agree with their general plight of ending systemic racism, it's much more difficult to establish the political plan, steps and unified ideas.

You get one group saying "defund da police", another with a more moderate police/criminal reform, etc and then it all just becomes a lot of throw shit into the wall and see what sticks. It also puts people on the defensive (I support this, but not that, etc).

I think this also points to the lack of credibility in the so called 'leaders' of that community, like Sharpton or Clyburn, which have obviously failed to raise to the moment and lead in a meaningful way, like MLK did.

[DMC]

Anybody that isn't a piece of shit would want less police brutality/killings. That aspect of the movement is fine.

I'm just not a fan of half truths and lack of accountability. There's a lot wrong with black culture that gets blamed on others. Absentee fathers, being the majority in prison, glorifying being hood, objectifying women, putting down respectable black people for being "too white". Police reform isn't going to change most of that. And yeah, this level of political correctness is just dumb. If I said any of those things publicly, even though they're all true, I'd be labeled a racist. The other day I was told told I hate black people because I said something along the lines of "Floyd had a lengthy criminal record, was high, and resisted arrest after committing a crime but he was still needlessly murdered". Apparently I have to think Floyd was a saint who was needlessly murdered. I find completely insane that that cop and chief in Atlanta had their careers destroyed just because the thug with the taser had dark skin.

And yeah, it does chap my ass a little that apparently black people matter more than other minorities.

Blacks didn't get together and collectively decide to live in hoods and do all the things you mentioned. It's cause and effect of their disposition in this country, which is almost impossible to understand coming from a different angle.

[DMC]

I mentioned this tangentially before. Unlike the Civil Rights movement, these people are way more splintered and disorganized.

This causes all sorts of problems, from making it easier to infiltrate protests, to having a large, organized display, to having a coherent message, etc. Which really does them a disservice in many ways.

While I think most people agree with their general plight of ending systemic racism, it's much more difficult to establish the political plan, steps and unified ideas.

You get one group saying "defund da police", another with a more moderate police/criminal reform, etc and then it all just becomes a lot of throw shit into the wall and see what sticks. It also puts people on the defensive (I support this, but not that, etc).

I think this also points to the lack of credibility in the so called 'leaders' of that community, like Sharpton or Clyburn, which have obviously failed to raise to the moment and lead in a meaningful way, like MLK did.

Wealthy black "leaders" want to remain wealthy. You saw what happened to King. These guys are infomercial folks, not leaders.

[midnightpulp]

I mentioned this tangentially before. Unlike the Civil Rights movement, these people are way more splintered and disorganized.

This causes all sorts of problems, from making it easier to infiltrate protests, to having a large, organized display, to having a coherent message, etc. Which really does them a disservice in many ways.

While I think most people agree with their general plight of ending systemic racism, it's much more difficult to establish the political plan, steps and unified ideas.

You get one group saying "defund da police", another with a more moderate police/criminal reform, etc and then it all just becomes a lot of throw shit into the wall and see what sticks. It also puts people on the defensive (I support this, but not that, etc).

I think this also points to the lack of credibility in the so called 'leaders' of that community, like Sharpton or Clyburn, which have obviously failed to raise to the moment and lead in a meaningful way, like MLK did.

I think it's because since protests for justice movements often draw a lot of young people (and young people are immature on average), the few immature young people who are more out to cause trouble or be "radical" in their Che Guevera shirt because it's cool unfortunately wind up hijacking the movement. Conservative media cherry picks these troublemakers and morons, and thus moderates eventually lose sympathy for the movement. This tactic pretty much sank any momentum Occupy Wall Street had. And worryingly, the leftist media will sometimes promote the more radical fringes with puff piece articles probably because they want to draw clicks. Like that article in the New York times that headlined, "Yes, we literally mean abolish the police."

They honestly don't think shit through. What would fill in the power vacuum of an abolished/defanged police? Private police. And if dystopian fiction and film has taught us anything, private police (who only the rich would be able to hire) would be exponentially more brutal and corrupt than what we have now. I'm all for police reform. They need better training, screening, and accountability, but abolishing them is sheer lunacy. That would lead to an even more right wing hellscape.

I'm sure the Civil Rights Movement had its share of youthful idiots, but there was no 24/7 media cycle back then and reporting was more honest.

[DMC]

I think it's because since protests for justice movements often draw a lot of young people (and young people are immature on average), the few immature young people who are more out to cause trouble or be "radical" in their Che Guevera shirt because it's cool unfortunately wind up hijacking the movement. Conservative media cherry picks these troublemakers and morons, and thus moderates eventually lose sympathy for the movement. This tactic pretty much sank any momentum Occupy Wall Street had. And worryingly, the leftist media will sometimes promote the more radical fringes with puff piece articles probably because they want to draw clicks. Like that article in the New York times that headlined, "Yes, we literally mean abolish the police."

They honestly don't think shit through. What would fill in the power vacuum of an abolished/defanged police? Private police. And if dystopian fiction and film has taught us anything, private police (who only the rich would be able to hire) would be exponentially more brutal and corrupt than what we have now. I'm all for police reform. They need better training, screening, and accountability, but abolishing them is sheer lunacy. That would lead to an even more right wing hellscape.

I'm sure the Civil Rights Movement had its share of youthful idiots, but there was no 24/7 media cycle back then and reporting was more honest.

Media picks these people because the partisans on each side pick them. Even here people constantly use extreme examples to slut shame the other side. The media only shows us what we have illustrated we are looking to buy.

[midnightpulp]

Media picks these people because the partisans on each side pick them. Even here people constantly use extreme examples to slut shame the other side. The media only shows us what we have illustrated we are looking to buy.

Sure. Drives clicks.

[ElNono]

I think it's because since protests for justice movements often draw a lot of young people (and young people are immature on average), the few immature young people who are more out to cause trouble or be "radical" in their Che Guevera shirt because it's cool unfortunately wind up hijacking the movement. Conservative media cherry picks these troublemakers and morons, and thus moderates eventually lose sympathy for the movement. This tactic pretty much sank any momentum Occupy Wall Street had. And worryingly, the leftist media will sometimes promote the more radical fringes with puff piece articles probably because they want to draw clicks. Like that article in the New York times that headlined, "Yes, we literally mean abolish the police."

They honestly don't think shit through. What would fill in the power vacuum of an abolished/defanged police? Private police. And if dystopian fiction and film has taught us anything, private police (who only the rich would be able to hire) would be exponentially more brutal and corrupt than what we have now. I'm all for police reform. They need better training, screening, and accountability, but abolishing them is sheer lunacy. That would lead to an even more right wing hellscape.

I'm sure the Civil Rights Movement had its share of youthful idiots, but there was no 24/7 media cycle back then and reporting was more honest.

They had young kids. They simply had much better organization.

They had a voice in a given leader, they had organizers that told people to be at this place and at this time, they made sure that if some punk did something stupid, they'll smack sense into them, they had an unified message and concrete demands.

And sure, they were smeared up and down, but they stood stoic until their demands were met.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/6wGZFn8/64240.jpg

Neutered generation and we raised them to be

[ChumpDumper]

Current state of Africa should make them more grateful (than other migrants) but the typical American black never steps foot on African soilWhat African countries have you stepped foot in?

[FrostKing]

What African countries have you stepped foot in?
I'm not African

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not AfricanSo ten? Twenty?

[spurraider21]

https://i.ibb.co/6wGZFn8/64240.jpg

Neutered generation and we raised them to be
you should be holding this up as one of the examples of the free market actually creating solutions

[FrostKing]

you should be holding this up as one of the examples of the free market actually creating solutions
What is free bout Amazon CEO stroking his ego by banning. And solution to what?

[FrostKing]

So ten? Twenty?
I have no connection to Africa, thus I don't care what happened or happens there.

[ChumpDumper]

I have no connection to Africa, thus I don't care what happened or happens there.25?

[Trill Clinton]

I have no connection to Africa, thus I don't care what happened or happens there.

then stop speaking on africa/africans.

[FrostKing]

then stop speaking on africa/africans.
"African-Americans"

Hilarious term by the way. Won't shut up about something that happened centuries ago.

[ChumpDumper]

"African-Americans"

Hilarious term by the way. Won't shut up about something that happened centuries ago.Identity and heritage is important to you tho.

[Trill Clinton]

"African-Americans"

Hilarious term by the way. Won't shut up about something that happened centuries ago.

jim crow, separate but equal, racial housing policies, redlining, etc was pretty recent fam.

[spurraider21]

jim crow, separate but equal, racial housing policies, redlining, etc was pretty recent fam.
yep. and even to this day, implicit bias affects employment (identical applications with a traditionally black name are less likely to get called back) and criminal justice (higher conviction rates - mock jurors are even more likely to convict a black defendant with otherwise identical race-neutral evidence, higher sentencing for same crimes and comparable priors)

not to mention lingering cumulative effects of what you mentioned (not being able to accrue family wealth until fairly recently)

[FrostKing]

jim crow, separate but equal, racial housing policies, redlining, etc was pretty recent fam.
I don't like being an asshole, it is not who I am. It's just too much coverage all at once and at times forced. To your point of view, this is probably just catching up to what should have been occurring steadily over the years. I hope we find a fair resolution :toast

[spurraider21]

yep. and even to this day, implicit bias affects employment (identical applications with a traditionally black name are less likely to get called back) and criminal justice (higher conviction rates - mock jurors are even more likely to convict a black defendant with otherwise identical race-neutral evidence, higher sentencing for same crimes and comparable priors)

not to mention lingering cumulative effects of what you mentioned (not being able to accrue family wealth until fairly recently)
this doesnt explain all of the problems the black community faces, though. they are significantly more likely to have children born into single parent households, which itself is a massive hindrance towards future success. to be fair, some of THAT can even be attributed to things like higher conviction rates, etc., but not all of it.

[clambake]

I don't like being an asshole, it is not who I am. It's just too much coverage all at once and at times forced. To your point of view, this is probably just catching up to what should have been occurring steadily over the years. I hope we find a fair resolution :toast

Your safe spot is putting them back in chains.

Have you met yonivore?

[Trill Clinton]

this doesnt explain all of the problems the black community faces, though. they are significantly more likely to have children born into single parent households, which itself is a massive hindrance towards future success. to be fair, some of THAT can even be attributed to things like higher conviction rates, etc., but not all of it.

single parent doesn't mean that a father isn't involved, though and majority of black fathers live with their children. studies show black fathers are the most involved of all race and ethnic groups.

a lot of our problems stem from communities that never bounced back from the crack epidemic stuck in a cycle of poverty and drug abuse, poor schools, bad policing and lack of opportunities.

[FkLA]

The fact black people are here because their ancestors were literally chained to slave ships and brought here involuntarily while other minorities are here because their ancestors moved here for a “better life” is always going to give blacks a leg up in the victim olympics. Sorry but that’s just how it is.

I mean sure, if slavery or Jim Crow laws were still in effect I could see your point. But we are so far removed from that despite SJWs and blacks wanting to play that victim card so bad. Blacks are better represented than all other minorities in pretty much anything thats high profile.

I'm not trying to play victim Olympics either. It's about equality and support for all.


Blacks didn't get together and collectively decide to live in hoods and do all the things you mentioned. It's cause and effect of their disposition in this country, which is almost impossible to understand coming from a different angle.

Nah. This is America and it's 2020. We just had a black president. There are successful black people, that came from nothing across all professions.

Every race has these no ambition, low class, lazy people. We don't make excuses for white trash. Or the ghetto ass Hispanics popping out babies like crazy. Why do we make excuses for the blacks that choose to continue living in that cycle? Just because they have more of those people than every other race?

[DMC]

I mean sure, if slavery or Jim Crow laws were still in effect I could see your point. But we are so far removed from that despite SJWs and blacks wanting to play that victim card so bad. Blacks are better represented than all other minorities in pretty much anything thats high profile.

I'm not trying to play victim Olympics either. It's about equality and support for all.



Nah. This is America and it's 2020. We just had a black president. There are successful black people, that came from nothing across all professions.

Every race has these no ambition, low class, lazy people. We don't make excuses for white trash. Or the ghetto ass Hispanics popping out babies like crazy. Why do we make excuses for the blacks that choose to continue living in that cycle? Just because they have more of those people than every other race?

What you mentioned are side notes, but unless you think black skin makes you want to live in ghettos and commit felonies, then you need to consider when exactly blacks weren't living in the poorest parts of town. When exactly was that? Most other races in the US progressed organically. The Blacks did not. They were artificially transplanted into a hostile situation and made less than human. This was true for hundreds of years. Coming out of that isn't fast or easy. There's no guarantee it will ever happen. Blacks in the US developed into what you see today through closed ranks communities and self protection. Survival mechanisms led them to not trust outside of their communities, and from there outside their race. The same isn't true for Hispanics, Asians, Indians or Native Americans. Many of those have some hard histories, but none were owned for 300 years.

[spurraider21]

single parent doesn't mean that a father isn't involved, though and majority of black fathers live with their children. studies show black fathers are the most involved of all race and ethnic groups.

a lot of our problems stem from communities that never bounced back from the crack epidemic stuck in a cycle of poverty and drug abuse, poor schools, bad policing and lack of opportunities.
It love to see those studies...

[FkLA]

What you mentioned are side notes, but unless you think black skin makes you want to live in ghettos and commit felonies, then you need to consider when exactly blacks weren't living in the poorest parts of town. When exactly was that? Most other races in the US progressed organically. The Blacks did not. They were artificially transplanted into a hostile situation and made less than human. This was true for hundreds of years. Coming out of that isn't fast or easy. There's no guarantee it will ever happen. Blacks in the US developed into what you see today through closed ranks communities and self protection. Survival mechanisms led them to not trust outside of their communities, and from there outside their race. The same isn't true for Hispanics, Asians, Indians or Native Americans. Many of those have some hard histories, but none were owned for 300 years.

Excuses. The Civil War was 150+ years ago, the Civil Rights Movement 50+ years ago. The younger generation of black people that never experienced any of that dont get a free pass to have no accountability just because their ancestors suffered through it. Some people are just low lifes.

Is the "distrust" caused by slavery forcing them to shoot each other up over stupid shit like gang colors and drugs? To objectify their own women? To abandon their own children? To put down members of their own community for being "too white" because they're trying to be respectable members of society?

[FkLA]

yep. and even to this day, implicit bias affects employment (identical applications with a traditionally black name are less likely to get called back)

What about everyone else? Are Maria de Jesus Gonzalez Martinez and Asalah Farooq just as likely to get a call back as Ashley Wellington?


and criminal justice (higher conviction rates - mock jurors are even more likely to convict a black defendant with otherwise identical race-neutral evidence, higher sentencing for same crimes and comparable priors)

Not ok. But it's also dishonest to turn a blind eye to the role the black community themselves has played in helping create the bias against them in the criminal justice system. They don't make up the majority of the prison population because every one of them is a victim that was racially profiled. The large majority of them are just low lifes.

[spurraider21]

What about everyone else? Are Maria de Jesus Gonzalez Martinez and Asalah Farooq just as likely to get a call back as Ashley Wellington?
Oppression olympics tbh. You’re welcome to show me a study supporting those rates


Not ok. But it's also dishonest to turn a blind eye to the role the black community themselves has played in helping create the bias against them in the criminal justice system. They don't make up the majority of the prison population because every one of them is a victim that was racially profiled. The large majority of them are just low lifes.
thats the point. Stereotypes are reinforced. Self fulfilling prophecy

[spurraider21]

It was illegal for black people to marry white people in Alabama until the 21st century

[DeadlyDynasty]

What African countries have you stepped foot in?
Nigeria, Liberia, Sierra Leone, The Gambia, Ivory Coast, Equatorial Guinea, CAR (worst place in the world), Djibouti, Somalia. Never again

[IronMexican]

To be fair it’s not just him, I’ve noticed that Hispanics in general more just as if not more triggered by BLM than conservatives do.
.

Can only speak for myself. I hate black people

[midnightpulp]

Can only speak for myself. I hate black people

You used to throw down with your 18th street vatos against the Bloods, ese?

[IronMexican]

One black guy beat me on 2k

Hated every black person I've ever come across since.

[Will Hunting]

Can only speak for myself. I hate black people
:lmao

[baseline bum]

One black guy beat me on 2k

Hated every black person I've ever come across since.

Man you should hate 2k, that series has gone to shit.

[IronMexican]

Man you should hate 2k, that series has gone to shit.

Highlights for me were 2k5, 2k8 and 2k11. Those were great

[SpursforSix]

single parent doesn't mean that a father isn't involved, though and majority of black fathers live with their children. studies show black fathers are the most involved of all race and ethnic groups.

a lot of our problems stem from communities that never bounced back from the crack epidemic stuck in a cycle of poverty and drug abuse, poor schools, bad policing and lack of opportunities.


It love to see those studies...

x2

[baseline bum]

Highlights for me were 2k5, 2k8 and 2k11. Those were great

Yeah man I loved 2k8, first basketball game I ever played where running plays actually worked out better than just isolating and running past the defender. Might have to go pirate a copy to play on my CFW PS3 (bought the game on 360 but don't feel like hooking that console back up again).

[IronMexican]

Yeah man I loved 2k8, first basketball game I ever played where running plays actually worked out better than just isolating and running past the defender. Might have to go pirate a copy to play on my CFW PS3 (bought the game on 360 but don't feel like hooking that console back up again).

One thing I remember about that though was length was everything. You could get Tim Duncan to shut down Paul in the perimeter. Great game

[FkLA]

Oppression olympics tbh. You’re welcome to show me a study supporting those rates

No, actually I'm just pointing that it's not something that is unique to black people. SJWs want blacks to be victims so bad.


thats the point. Stereotypes are reinforced. Self fulfilling prophecy

Oh yeah, I bet they're shooting each other up in Chiraq because of stereotypes. They'd be upstanding members of society if we just didn't stereotype them.

[FkLA]

One black guy beat me on 2k

Hated every black person I've ever come across since.
jermaine was a beast on 2k, tbf.

[IronMexican]

jermaine was a beast on 2k, tbf.

:lol I miss that guy. Used to play 2k and Madden with him.

[spurraider21]

No, actually I'm just pointing that it's not something that is unique to black people. SJWs want blacks to be victims so bad.
its not a matter of what anybody wants. It’s that they are victims of generational oppression whose effects didn’t magically disappear when CRA was passed


Oh yeah, I bet they're shooting each other up in Chiraq because of stereotypes. They'd be upstanding members of society if we just didn't stereotype them.
You’re one step away from going Nadolph and blaming racial iq disparities. I didn’t say there isn’t a lot of crime. But they also get convicted at higher rates (even in mock juries) and get longer sentences for same crimes. Saying “yeah but other black peoples commit a lot of crime” doesn’t justify the disparate treatment of individuals.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol white people using "Chiraq"

[FrostKing]

But they also get convicted at higher rates (even in mock juries) and get longer sentences for same crimes. Saying “yeah but other black peoples commit a lot of crime” doesn’t justify the disparate treatment of individuals.
They usually have priors (juvenile records), dress sloppy to court, carry arrogant attitude, verbally struggle to speak, are represented by public defenders and rarely have nuclear family support in the court room (furthermore here is my GF and our 3+ children).

These are all factors. Especially since blacks tend to group up in cities/communities thus they dominate certain court rooms. Ultimately money talks and if you have an attorney it is a huge advantage.

[ChumpDumper]

They usually have priors (juvenile records), dress sloppy to court, carry arrogant attitude, verbally struggle to speak, are represented by public defenders and rarely have nuclear family support in the court room (furthermore here is my GF and our 3+ children).

These are all factors. Especially since blacks tend to group up in cities/communities thus they dominate certain court rooms. Ultimately money talks and if you have an attorney it is a huge advantage.How many trials have you attended?

[FrostKing]

How many trials have you attended?
I've been to court a handful of times. Attorney specifically saved my behind at-least twice.

[ChumpDumper]

I've been to court a handful of times. Attorney specifically saved my behind at-least twice.So, your own trials?:lol

[FrostKing]

So, your own trials?:lol
What is your persistence with trails. What's your angle here.

[ChumpDumper]

What is your persistence with trails. What's your angle here.You're the one making all the courtroom observations.

[spurraider21]

They usually have priors (juvenile records), dress sloppy to court, carry arrogant attitude, verbally struggle to speak, are represented by public defenders and rarely have nuclear family support in the court room (furthermore here is my GF and our 3+ children).

These are all factors. Especially since blacks tend to group up in cities/communities thus they dominate certain court rooms. Ultimately money talks and if you have an attorney it is a huge advantage.
Mock juries are given identical evidence and only difference is the race of defendants. Black guys convicted at higher rates

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DavidNakamura/status/1281606255795228672?s=19

[FrostKing]

"inclusive society"
"diversity is our strength"


Totally understand teenagers falling for this rhetoric but adults?

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/dLxKBG3/65200.jpg

[DAF86]

If I was the Redskins' owner, I would change it to "Whiteskins" just to troll everybody.

[DAF86]

They could get off their asses and start Brown Lives Matter, but apparently the only thing Mexicans love more than border jumping with a 5 year old kid is pretending that their victimhood was forced on them :lol

Ignorance done funny. Good shit son. :lol

[DMC]

What is your persistence with trails. What's your angle here.

Chump is only interested in you. He doesn't want to be in the discussion, just wants to try to illustrate you're not qualified to discuss anything - hoping for a long, drawn out back and forth of 3 word retorts that inevitably kills the thread.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump is only interested in you. He doesn't want to be in the discussion, just wants to try to illustrate you're not qualified to discuss anything - hoping for a long, drawn out back and forth of 3 word retorts that inevitably kills the thread.DMC is only interested in me.

I think changing the name is a fait accompli now that the big sponsors are threatening. Not sure why it's such a big deal aside from the inertia of years. No logical reason to fight to keep the nickname.

[DAF86]

Seriously though, they should change their name to "Skins" to keep some kind of club history. Change the logo to harmless "WS" initials and problem solved.

[FrostKing]

DMC is only interested in me.

I think changing the name is a fait accompli now that the big sponsors are threatening. Not sure why it's such a big deal aside from the inertia of years. No logical reason to fight to keep the nickname.
Further proving this is over $$$ not racism. Just like taking down statues is over control not racism.

None of this. Not the police brutality is about racism. Your ideology weaponized the vague term and now it is destroying this Civilization.

[ChumpDumper]

Further proving this is over $$$ not racism.I guess for the owners of the Redskins-- they don't mind the racist name on their own. It's pretty clearly about the racism for the sponsors. You could argue that's also about money but that comes down to what their customers want-- which is not racism. The market works!


Just like taking down statues is over control not racism.Putting up the statues was about control for and by racists.


None of this. Not the police brutality is about racism.Part of it certainly is. I prefer they be less violent towards whites and other races as well.

And no, none of it is destroying civilization.

[FrostKing]

I guess for the owners of the Redskins-- they don't mind the racist name on their own. It's pretty clearly about the racism for the sponsors. You could argue that's also about money but that comes down to what their customers want-- which is not racism. The market works!

And no, none of it is destroying civilization.
Just so we are in agreement. The vast majority of customers (of FedEx whatever) are indifferent about the name. I am willing to bet majority of FedEx users are unaware the Washington Redskins football team even exists.

List all the major issues facing Western Civilization. Decline of free speech is near if not the top of the list. This was the major edge the West held over the other societies. I think it is cute that many think this crackdown will end at CIS white christians. The goal is control and no different than the Patriot Act 2 decades before.

[ChumpDumper]

Just so we are in agreement. The vast majority of customers (of FedEx whatever) are indifferent about the name. I am willing to bet majority of FedEx users are unaware the Washington Redskins football team even exists.There's enough to make a difference to FedEx. What's the point in supporting the name? It's not worth it.


List all the major issues facing Western Civilization. Decline of free speech is near if not the top of the list. This was the major edge the West held over the other societies. I think it is cute that many think this crackdown will end at CIS white christians. The goal is control and no different than the Patriot Act 2 decades before.This is not a free speech issue.

[ChumpDumper]

They'll probably go with Red Tails which makes no sense. Could get an OK logo out of it.

[spurraider21]

should have just gone with Sentinels like in The Replacements imo

[Blake]

Washington Warriors rolls off the tongue pretty well

[clambake]

I say call them the Washington Redskins

[Spurtacular]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2020/07/12/washington-redskins-to-announce-new-team-name-monday/5425894002/

Chumpettes gonna get their fap on.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/pZ4dm3p/Screenshot-2020-07-13-09-51-13-1.png

Still getting blasted. What was the point.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/NVJamesD/status/1282771643966689280?s=19

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

This is probably the winner

1279080756334166017

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/2qxS63X/66374.jpg

Sports the ultimate uniter. That is why it needs to stay clear of politics

[ChumpDumper]

https://i.ibb.co/pZ4dm3p/Screenshot-2020-07-13-09-51-13-1.png

Still getting blasted. What was the point.Dan's going to be fine. Quit crying for him.

[leemajors]

Washington Commanders is awful. Should have stuck with Football Team, tbh

[baseline bum]

Washington Commanders is awful. Should have stuck with Football Team, tbh

Should still use the South Park logo though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByWpGErCEAEbW_W.png

[hater]

Washington Commanders is awful. Should have stuck with Football Team, tbh

Agree

Horrible

Generals or even Admirals woulda been 100x better

[hater]

Wasnt Joe Bidens shitty dog named Commander? :lmao

No matter the name they will still suck :lol

[Thread]

Should've stayed with (Redskins). And Snyder swore he'd never cave.

[hater]

Should've stayed with (Redskins). And Snyder swore he'd never cave.

Life comes at u fast

We will have 2 lgbtq+ supreme court judges by 2045

[Blake]

Washington Commanders is awful. Should have stuck with Football Team, tbh

Sounds like an arena football league team

[Ef-man]

Should've stayed with (Redskins). And Snyder swore he'd never cave.

Just like “0-forever,” amirite?

[Thread]

Just like “0-forever,” amirite?

I swore on the Good Book I'd never lodge it again. & I ain't.

It's my religion.

[baseline bum]

I swore on the Good Book I'd never lodge it again. & I ain't.

It's my religion.

It's ok, I think the Suns will ring this season unless the crooked NYC mayor rescinds the vaccine mandate.

[Thread]

It's ok, I think the Suns will ring this season unless the crooked NYC mayor rescinds the vaccine mandate.

Does not look good that's for certain. My only chance is State, or, the last bastion is Miami in the East if they get the Finals.

Otherwise, they're gonna ring. I thought last year my goose was cooked. I never figured the Bucks to be that settled and committed.

Since Xmas of '86 I've held 'em off. I still remember sitting in that Hinky Dinky parking lot when we first moved here and listening to their radio game against the Lakers. That way their announcers were, that grip, they ain't changed a bit in the 35 years I've been listening. Same smart fuckers with big mouths. Them, this local Media, them I'll grudge, but the guys, the Suns fans, no, they're a stout bunch and they need it, desperately. I won't grudge 'em at ring. No way.