ICE tells international students at colleges going fully online to leave the U.S.

[boutons_deux]

thousands of students from outside the U.S. who go to those newly remote schools won't be able to stay in the states, Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced Monday (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during).

"nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 students attending schools operating entirely online may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States,"

Students will have to consider "transferring to a school with in-person instruction,"

or "must depart the country" despite the pandemic preventing safe travel anywhere in the world, ICE said.

If they don't leave or change their plans, they may be deported.

That decision will likely apply to a big portion of the more than 1 million foreign students who attend colleges in the U.S;

More than 5,000 (https://hio.harvard.edu/statistics) international students attend Harvard University alone,

https://theweek.com/speedreads/923913/ice-tells-international-students-colleges-going-fully-online-leave

Stephen Himmler Miller dirty tricks

[Chucho]

Boots...how many ribs does a fat, worthless prick like you get removed to suck their own micropenis?

[koriwhat]

Good!

[clambake]

How do they do that? Our shithole country is on everyone’s no fly list.

[ducks]

About fucking time
And keep out come legally like you are suppose to!

[Spurtacular]

This is a pretty idiotic stance, tbh.

[ElNono]

About fucking time
And keep out come legally like you are suppose to!

These are students on visas... ie: legally

[Trainwreck2100]

These are students on visas... ie: legally

yeah but they're taking our jerbs, even though most companies don't want to sponsor them when they graduate

[DMC]

If they aren't returning to school, they can attend online courses from their home countries.

[clambake]

If they aren't returning to school, they can attend online courses from their home countries.

Who are they and how do they get there from a no fly zone shithole trump country?

[ElNono]

yeah but they're taking our jerbs, even though most companies don't want to sponsor them when they graduate

If they can't get a job, they can always open a tattoo parlor, tbh... I heard there's good money in that...

[Spurtacular]

If they aren't returning to school, they can attend online courses from their home countries.

Sure. But what's the compelling need to ship them out? They're still contributing to our society via rent/tuition/"diversity".
Why should they be given the bum's rush?

[hater]

These are students on visas... ie: legally

:lmao :lmao cucks

[hater]

If they aren't returning to school, they can attend online courses from their home countries.

Or they can go to school some other country.

I recommend that option as american schools are overpriced and overrated.

[hater]

Who are they and how do they get there from a no fly zone shithole trump country?

They will have to hire coyotes to cross the border to a civilized country like Canada or Mexico tbqh.

[hater]

Sure. But what's the compelling need to ship them out? They're still contributing to our society via rent/tuition/"diversity".
Why should they be given the bum's rush?

Yeah I was in thats status for a bit and all I had to prove was that I was enrolled in an american school FULL TIME. Thats it

This decision must have some Trumpish/nationalistic reason tbqh

[boutons_deux]

Miller kicking out 100Ks of visa recipients is also kicking out many $Bs of their living expenses

1M college visa students, so let's say 500K leave, taking their $2500/month living expense with them,

that's $1B+ per month gone.

Just as Pootin wanted, Trash/Miller destroying USA's "soft power"

[Spurminator]

If they aren't returning to school, they can attend online courses from their home countries.

We support a student from South Sudan. His home community doesn't have wifi. But he could walk 2 hours to a nearby city to take classes.

Or, this country could just not be dicks.

[pgardn]

Drain the brains, excellent idea.
The swamp was filled instead of drained, we need to remove something.

Promises made, promises kept.

What a pitiful president and WH
This is how a virus magically disappears?

[pgardn]

We support a student from South Sudan. His home community doesn't have wifi. But he could walk 2 hours to a nearby city to take classes.

Or, this country could just not be dicks.

A globalist!
We found him and his family.
Off with his head.

[BSfromTX]

Next big bail out will be universities. They are about to hit a wall.

[hater]

We support a student from South Sudan. His home community doesn't have wifi. But he could walk 2 hours to a nearby city to take classes.

Or, this country could just not be dicks.

Times have changed. USA is not the educational luminary it uaed to b3.

Overpriced, overbloated and ovwrhyped. Your poor sudanese nig is probably getting stupider by the minute here.

Sure I u derstqnd his situation in sudan it is also no joke. But it is not a no brairer anymore. Other options other countries are valid options

[RandomGuy]

thousands of students from outside the U.S. who go to those newly remote schools won't be able to stay in the states, Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced Monday (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during).

"nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 students attending schools operating entirely online may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States,"

Students will have to consider "transferring to a school with in-person instruction,"

or "must depart the country" despite the pandemic preventing safe travel anywhere in the world, ICE said.

If they don't leave or change their plans, they may be deported.

That decision will likely apply to a big portion of the more than 1 million foreign students who attend colleges in the U.S;

More than 5,000 (https://hio.harvard.edu/statistics) international students attend Harvard University alone,

https://theweek.com/speedreads/923913/ice-tells-international-students-colleges-going-fully-online-leave

Stephen Himmler Miller dirty tricks

Pretty much.

Saw that. Just seems like a dick move. Pointless and a bit cruel. Par for this administration tho.

[koriwhat]

If they can't get a job, they can always open a tattoo parlor, tbh... I heard there's good money in that...

I see you.

[baseline bum]

Also a big fuck you to US colleges that love that hiked up foreign tuition. The entire Trump presidency is about telling everyone but the 30% cult and the elites to fuck off and die.

[hater]

Also a big fuck you to US colleges that love that hiked up foreign tuition. The entire Trump presidency is about telling everyone but the 30% cult and the elites to fuck off and die.

US colleges deserve it and more

US colleges told th3ir students not only that they would never return spring 2020 tuition money, but would not reduce prices for even all remote education :lmao

Fuck us colleges. Hooe th3y die a quick death

[BSfromTX]

US colleges deserve it and more

US colleges told th3ir students not only that they would never return spring 2020 tuition money, but would not reduce prices for even all remote education :lmao

Fuck us colleges. Hooe th3y die a quick death


Agreed, but they will get bailed out. I have a huge problem with higher education. It has never had to operate like other businesses. Loans to anyone that has a HS diploma keeps their funding steady and demand high. This will be the first time universities have really had to face serious economic issues.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah I was in thats status for a bit and all I had to prove was that I was enrolled in an american school FULL TIME. Thats it

This decision must have some Trumpish/nationalistic reason tbqh

It was a political decision. They probably kicked them out so that later when they're banning some trash, the courts don't overrule them on some pretend racism.

[spurraider21]

"we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants. why can't you see that?"

[ElNono]

I see you.

:lol

[koriwhat]

"we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants. why can't you see that?"

True. Why would we have a problem with LEGAL immigrants?

[spurraider21]

True. Why would we have a problem with LEGAL immigrants?
good question. ask ICE

[Spurtacular]

good question. ask ICE

:cry Big government bad now. :cry

[spurraider21]

:cry Big government bad now. :cry
"big government" isn't an inherently left vs right issue. the right has no problem with ramping the military, send deficits soaring, increase domestic surveillance, law enforcement presence, criminalization of drugs, having the government step in and regulate marriage, abortion.

the right wing shtick about "big government" is really all about lower taxes and business regulation, not about an actually smaller government

stalinist USSR and nazi germany were both big government but on opposite ends of the traditional political spectrum

[koriwhat]

good question. ask ICE

They're here for school, even though I think that shouldn't be the case, but since school isn't in session and on site bye bye felicia! Same should be done with all the daca kids/adults. Fuck em all!

[spurraider21]

They're here for school, even though I think that shouldn't be the case, but since school isn't in session and on site bye bye felicia! Same should be done with all the daca kids/adults. Fuck em all!
this thread isn't about daca. it's about people who are documented. you want them gone too, despite claiming not to have issue with non-illegal immigrants.

[koriwhat]

this thread isn't about daca. it's about people who are documented. you want them gone too, despite claiming not to have issue with non-illegal immigrants.

Documented to be here for school. Can you not read you shitty lawyer?

[spurraider21]

Documented to be here for school. Can you not read you shitty lawyer?
yup. they're in this country for school. as derp said, there's no compelling reason to send them out. all you're doing is causing unnecessary hardship for people who came here legally and aren't causing problems for anybody

[koriwhat]

yup. they're in this country for school. as derp said, there's no compelling reason to send them out. all you're doing is causing unnecessary hardship for people who came here legally and aren't causing problems for anybody

Idgaf about their hardships... buh bye felicia! They came here legally for school and school only. Fuck out of here!

You and your feelings are bitchmade.

[spurraider21]

Idgaf about their hardships
no shit

[koriwhat]

no shit

Someone is finally catching on! :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

Someone is finally catching on! :tu

That's one thing that differentiates you from your fellow Jews in America. Most of them want open borders. You don't. Props :tu

[DMC]

yup. they're in this country for school. as derp said, there's no compelling reason to send them out. all you're doing is causing unnecessary hardship for people who came here legally and aren't causing problems for anybody

If you went somewhere on a work visa and your job ended, would you be allowed to stay there?

[DMC]

WASHINGTON – The Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) announced modifications Monday to temporary exemptions for nonimmigrant students taking online classes due to the pandemic for the fall 2020 semester. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security plans to publish the procedures and responsibilities in the Federal Register as a Temporary Final Rule.

Temporary exemptions for the fall 2020 semester include:

Nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 students attending schools operating entirely online may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States. The U.S. Department of State will not issue visas to students enrolled in schools and/or programs that are fully online for the fall semester nor will U.S. Customs and Border Protection permit these students to enter the United States. Active students currently in the United States enrolled in such programs must depart the country or take other measures, such as transferring to a school with in-person instruction to remain in lawful status. If not, they may face immigration consequences including, but not limited to, the initiation of removal proceedings.
Nonimmigrant F-1 students attending schools operating under normal in-person classes are bound by existing federal regulations. Eligible F students may take a maximum of one class or three credit hours online.
Nonimmigrant F-1 students attending schools adopting a hybrid model—that is, a mixture of online and in person classes—will be allowed to take more than one class or three credit hours online. These schools must certify to SEVP, through the Form I-20, “Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant Student Status,” certifying that the program is not entirely online, that the student is not taking an entirely online course load this semester, and that the student is taking the minimum number of online classes required to make normal progress in their degree program. The above exemptions do not apply to F-1 students in English language training programs or M-1 students pursing vocational degrees, who are not permitted to enroll in any online courses.

It's simple actually - they are here to attend a school, and that's why they were able to secure a visa. If they are going full online, they don't need to be here for that. They can remain in the country if they attend in-person classes at another school.

If this country is so shitty as many on the left have proclaimed time and again, why is it a hardship to send the students back to their much better homeland?

[ChumpDumper]

This country is so shitty a number of the countries the students are from won't allow us to travel there.

[diego]

WASHINGTON – The Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) announced modifications Monday to temporary exemptions for nonimmigrant students taking online classes due to the pandemic for the fall 2020 semester. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security plans to publish the procedures and responsibilities in the Federal Register as a Temporary Final Rule.

Temporary exemptions for the fall 2020 semester include:

Nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 students attending schools operating entirely online may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States. The U.S. Department of State will not issue visas to students enrolled in schools and/or programs that are fully online for the fall semester nor will U.S. Customs and Border Protection permit these students to enter the United States. Active students currently in the United States enrolled in such programs must depart the country or take other measures, such as transferring to a school with in-person instruction to remain in lawful status. If not, they may face immigration consequences including, but not limited to, the initiation of removal proceedings.
Nonimmigrant F-1 students attending schools operating under normal in-person classes are bound by existing federal regulations. Eligible F students may take a maximum of one class or three credit hours online.
Nonimmigrant F-1 students attending schools adopting a hybrid model—that is, a mixture of online and in person classes—will be allowed to take more than one class or three credit hours online. These schools must certify to SEVP, through the Form I-20, “Certificate of Eligibility for Nonimmigrant Student Status,” certifying that the program is not entirely online, that the student is not taking an entirely online course load this semester, and that the student is taking the minimum number of online classes required to make normal progress in their degree program. The above exemptions do not apply to F-1 students in English language training programs or M-1 students pursing vocational degrees, who are not permitted to enroll in any online courses.

It's simple actually - they are here to attend a school, and that's why they were able to secure a visa. If they are going full online, they don't need to be here for that. They can remain in the country if they attend in-person classes at another school.

If this country is so shitty as many on the left have proclaimed time and again, why is it a hardship to send the students back to their much better homeland?

You say send the students back as if you were covering their expenses. And that is the while point, these students cover their own expenditures and come here legally, providing economic and academic growth for the United States, and they are being kicked out for something outside their control- like hater I hope they wise up and don't come back. I was once an F1 student and if this happened then i wouldn't come back.

[spurraider21]

If you went somewhere on a work visa and your job ended, would you be allowed to stay there?
school didnt end

[Spurminator]

There is still value to being in America while taking online courses from an American college. There is no compelling reason to send them back home, except to appease bigots. They are not living off of welfare or draining the system in any way.

[spurraider21]

There is still value to being in America while taking online courses from an American college. There is no compelling reason to send them back home, except to appease bigots. They are not living off of welfare or draining the system in any way.
its just nativism

[Spurminator]

633695559900073984

[Trill Clinton]

633695559900073984

Lol

[ducks]

Fraudster

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/berkeley-officials-say-theyre-planning-fraudulent-courses-to-circumvent-ice-rules-that-could-lead-to-student-deportations

[koriwhat]

That's one thing that differentiates you from your fellow Jews in America. Most of them want open borders. You don't. Props :tu

Because I'm not jewish...

https://tvbtn.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/5grader.jpg

[resistanze]

Sued by Harvard and MIT as expected. Shocked if they don't win, as the guidance is imbecilic tbh.

[boutons_deux]

633695559900073984

:lol

"There's A Tweet For Everything" Hits Keep Coming

[boutons_deux]

Sued by Harvard and MIT as expected. Shocked if they don't win, as the guidance is imbecilic tbh.

may go quickly to SCOTUS where it will be declined, delayed until the damage is done, or SCOTUS whores rule for Trash.

[DMC]

school didnt end

It actually did. If they cannot go to the school and are required to take online courses, then the school they got a visa to attend ended for them. The classes can still be taken from their home country. What's the issue?

[DMC]

There is still value to being in America while taking online courses from an American college. There is no compelling reason to send them back home, except to appease bigots. They are not living off of welfare or draining the system in any way.

The visa doesn't exist for extracurricular value. It's there so the student could attend the classes at the school. The compelling reason is they can not go to the school. For intents and purposes their stay is over. They have no reason to remain in the country just as you would not if you could do the job from your home and your workplace abroad closed its doors.

[ElNono]

It actually did. If they cannot go to the school and are required to take online courses, then the school they got a visa to attend ended for them. The classes can still be taken from their home country. What's the issue?

Some of those visas (F1, at least, the most common one) have both an expiration date, and the only requirement is that "students must maintain the minimum course load for full-time student status."

While the government always reserves the right to revoke them, technically, they have no requirement of actually physically attending school.

[pgardn]

This essentially does two things.

It satisfies the gtfoh movement, you are too smart, dont take muh job. we are undergoing a color change without your help thanks.
It compels Universities to hold classes under this epidemic. And possibly lose tuition money.

Its stupid for everyone involved.

[resistanze]

The visa doesn't exist for extracurricular value. It's there so the student could attend the classes at the school. The compelling reason is they can not go to the school. For intents and purposes their stay is over. They have no reason to remain in the country just as you would not if you could do the job from your home and your workplace abroad closed its doors.

Except you could always work remote within the US on a valid visa - that's never been an issue. A large chunk of immigrant workers have been working remote within the USA since the pandemic and there's no plans to rescind their visas.

Considering this is a temporary measure given COVID-19, how dumb is the thought of the underfunded USCIS possibly re-processing millions of visas in Jan 2021 for those same international students when in-class education resumes?

[Spurminator]

The visa doesn't exist for extracurricular value. It's there so the student could attend the classes at the school. The compelling reason is they can not go to the school. For intents and purposes their stay is over. They have no reason to remain in the country just as you would not if you could do the job from your home and your workplace abroad closed its doors.

Team assignments and access to technology are not "extracurricular." These students often rely on each other for help with coursework. They have study groups. Many of them don't have internet access back at home.

This is an unprecedented situation and "school" may look very different this year. You can pretend to be a literalist about what "attending school" means but it's just a facade to hide the simple bigotry that you want the foreigners to go home. There is no compelling reason to force them into an unnecessary and inferior remote education when they have earned the right to be here. They will still be attending school in the same way their American classmates are.

[DMC]

Team assignments and access to technology are not "extracurricular." These students often rely on each other for help with coursework. They have study groups. Many of them don't have internet access back at home.

This is an unprecedented situation and "school" may look very different this year. You can pretend to be a literalist about what "attending school" means but it's just a facade to hide the simple bigotry that you want the foreigners to go home. There is no compelling reason to force them into an unnecessary and inferior remote education when they have earned the right to be here. They will still be attending school in the same way their American classmates are.

Everyone with a different opinion than you is a bigot.

[DMC]

Except you could always work remote within the US on a valid visa - that's never been an issue. A large chunk of immigrant workers have been working remote within the USA since the pandemic and there's no plans to rescind their visas.

Considering this is a temporary measure given COVID-19, how dumb is the thought of the underfunded USCIS possibly re-processing millions of visas in Jan 2021 for those same international students when in-class education resumes?
With a valid visa...

If the visa covers online only school... does it?

[pgardn]

This should never have been done in the first place it’s just stupid.
it helps absolutely no one.

[Th'Pusher]

This should never have been done in the first place it’s just stupid.
it helps absolutely no one.

It helps the president with his base of bigots

[DMC]

Enforcing the law helps no one.

[BD24]

Spurt being the voice of reason itt from the trump crew. What in the actual fuck is going on :lol

[Nbadan]

Harvard will tie this up in court till after Nov, but the Trump administration cares little about base building as we near the election.

[resistanze]

Aaaand the Trump administration and DHS fold like a cheap tent. Great use of time tbh

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Trump supporters will have to reverse their backflips on this one.

[hater]

:lmao another white flag by Dump

[spurraider21]

Everyone with a different opinion than you is a bigot.
just the bigots

[DMC]

lol dude makes a stand, you all cry foul. He shows mercy you call him weak.

You deserve whatever happens to you

[hater]

lol dude makes a stand, you all cry foul. He shows mercy you call him weak.

You deserve whatever happens to you

Its a sign of weakness. Hes a soft bunker bitch

[ChumpDumper]

lol dude makes a stand, you all cry foul. He shows mercy you call him weak.He's weak regardless.


You deserve whatever happens to youWhat do you deserve for your support of Trump?

[hater]

He's weak regardless.

What do you deserve for your support of Trump?

An ugly red hat. Thats it

[Spurminator]

:lmao @ "shows mercy." Like this has anything to do with mercy. It's a fight he knew he couldn't win, politically or otherwise.

Even when DMC is trying to be convictionless he can't help but praise his Trump.

[DMC]

:lmao @ "shows mercy." Like this has anything to do with mercy. It's a fight he knew he couldn't win, politically or otherwise.

Even when DMC is trying to be convictionless he can't help but praise his Trump.

Doesn't matter who POTUS is, one group or the other will lose their fucking minds and not have a rational thinking process for 4 years.

[ChumpDumper]

WHATABOUT PEOPLE OTHER THAN MYSELF?

[Spurminator]

Doesn't matter who POTUS is, one group or the other will lose their fucking minds and not have a rational thinking process for 4 years.

I posted about a dozen rational reasons why this decision would have been objectively wrong and all you had was "don't call me a bigot."

You want to believe people hate Trump because THEY'RE delusional, so you've convinced yourself of it in spite of mountains of evidence otherwise.

He could piss on the Constitution at a campaign rally and you'd be on here trying to convince his critics that they're irrational. Sometimes a rat is a rat. You're not better than other people for being immune to anger at abuse of power.

[baseline bum]

Doesn't matter who POTUS is, one group or the other will lose their fucking minds and not have a rational thinking process for 4 years.

Yeah Trumptards haven't been rational with either the Magic Negro or the Dear Leader in office.

[Blake]

I posted about a dozen rational reasons why this decision would have been objectively wrong and all you had was "don't call me a bigot."

You want to believe people hate Trump because THEY'RE delusional, so you've convinced yourself of it in spite of mountains of evidence otherwise.

He could piss on the Constitution at a campaign rally and you'd be on here trying to convince his critics that they're irrational. Sometimes a rat is a rat. You're not better than other people for being immune to anger at abuse of power.

And then when he stops pissing on the Constitution because of pressure, we call him weak.

Poor Trump just can't win :(

[pgardn]

It helps the president with his base of bigots

yeah

Well, DMC wants our government to enforce all laws.
there once was a time in Texas where Sputer could have been arrested for taking DMC up the anus. And if DMC desired the pile driving, he could have received more anal gouging in jail as well.

Those were the days where men were men, and knots in tree trunks were well worn.