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hater
07-10-2020, 11:54 PM
Called it :tu

Damn Im good. But sadly this is a terrible event.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1281650406423031809?s=19

hater
07-10-2020, 11:57 PM
RiP tbqh :cry

hater
07-11-2020, 12:03 AM
https://twitter.com/HP92823252/status/1281815413697974272?s=19

hater
07-11-2020, 12:04 AM
https://twitter.com/RepublicanStro3/status/1281812415550828544?s=19

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:20 AM
Hater sells another dog and pony show.
Chumpettes ain't gonna love you, bruh. :lol
You're chucho'ing it for friends. :lmao

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:28 AM
Hater sells another dog and pony show.
Chumpettes ain't gonna love you, bruh. :lol
You're chucho'ing it for friends. :lmaoSo are the trucks fake or are the requests fake or are the bodies fake?

What's the non-YouTube plan?

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:33 AM
So are the trucks fake or are the requests fake or are the bodies fake?

What's the non-YouTube plan?

Morgues request resource all the time. It's not news without a scamdemic.

lol Now give hater the hug he craves, cherp

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:34 AM
https://twitter.com/RepublicanStro3/status/1281812415550828544?s=19

:lol Look at all those empty seats in the ER.

:cry Muh plandemic :cry

hater
07-11-2020, 12:44 AM
Hater sells another dog and pony show.
Chumpettes ain't gonna love you, bruh. :lol
You're chucho'ing it for friends. :lmao

Whats your conspiracy theory ma nog?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:45 AM
Morgues request resource all the time. It's not news without a scamdemic.Tell me the last time they requested morgue trucks for deaths from a disease.

hater
07-11-2020, 12:46 AM
Tell me the last time the requested morgue trucks for deaths from a disease.

Probably katrina tbqb

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:47 AM
Probably katrina tbqbThe Katrina disease?

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:47 AM
Tell me the last time the requested morgue trucks for deaths from a disease.

Do you think they weren't using fridge trucks before the scamdemic?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:49 AM
Do you think they weren't using fridge trucks before the scamdemic?derp folds

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:54 AM
Whats your conspiracy theory ma nog?

Probably just that you've taken the path of least resistance and are saving your ammo for another day is all.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:55 AM
:cry

Do you think they weren't using fridge trucks before the scamdemic?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:56 AM
Do you think they weren't using fridge trucks before the scamdemic?I don't think they were using FEMA refrigerated trucks, dumbass.

That's what I asked you about.

You can't read. You only whine and fold.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 01:18 AM
I don't think they were using FEMA refrigerated trucks, dumbass.

That's what I asked you about.

You can't read. You only whine and fold.

You think but don't know.

Also, they would routinely be using the non emergency trucks in day-to-day operations.

:lol cherp needs narratives, badly.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:32 AM
You think but don't know.

Also, they would routinely be using the non emergency trucks in day-to-day operations.

:lol cherp needs narratives, badly.Not from FEMA.

Tell me the last time the requested FEMA morgue trucks for deaths from a disease.

Or fold.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 01:34 AM
Not from FEMA.

Tell me the last time the requested FEMA morgue trucks for deaths from a disease.

Or fold.

They would have had no incentive. Nor would the trucks likely have been available.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:36 AM
Derp's admitted answer is never.


They would have had no incentive.What incentive?

Explain in your own words.


Nor would the trucks likely have been available.Why not? What are you saying the FEMA trucks are doing every single day where they would not be available?

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:38 AM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:40 AM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.Oh, you'd say.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:47 AM
Oh, you'd say.

Makes more sense that they wouldn't want the corpses than that they lacked space, that refrigerated trucks would keep all the virus laden corpses away from workers and prevent contamination. But you're the forum pundit.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:49 AM
Makes more sense that they wouldn't want the corpses than that they lacked space, that refrigerated trucks would keep all the virus laden corpses away from workers and prevent contamination. But you're the forum pundit.You just made yourself the ST corpse pundit. Own it.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:53 AM
You just made yourself the ST corpse pundit. Own it.

Why did you respond, exactly?

You are an ST corpse, btw.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:54 AM
Why did you respond, exactly?I recognized your status as a self-proclaimed FEMA expert.


You are an ST corpse, btw.:lol DMC mad and editing

TheGreatYacht
07-11-2020, 01:58 AM
Hater sells another dog and pony show.
Chumpettes ain't gonna love you, bruh. :lol
You're chucho'ing it for friends. :lmao

Remember when the whole scamdemic began I called it out right away that the whole thing was a hoax? Everyone here laughed at me except for you. Well my theories don't sound so far fetch afterall outside of Chumpettes. My boy hater has a schtick to protect

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 02:04 AM
Remember when the whole scamdemic began I called it out right away that the whole thing was a hoax? Everyone here laughed at me except for you. Well my theories don't sound so far fetch afterall outside of Chumpettes. My boy hater has a schtick to protectSo you're saying all the bodies piling up are fake?

What's the plan?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 02:11 AM
I will stick with the caveat that many places are procuring refrigerated trucks and trailers in anticipation of the possibility their morgues will fill up. Some places have probably done this before with hurricanes, etc. One thing to keep in mind is that Texas does not count probable COVID deaths in their public reports, so there are likely even more bodies than normal+listed COVID.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 02:20 AM
You'll stick with your propaganda. That's all.

:lol "caveat"

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 02:25 AM
You'll stick with your propaganda. That's all.

:lol "caveat"You have no idea what you're whining about.

What's wrong with you?

DMC
07-11-2020, 02:30 AM
I recognized your status as a self-proclaimed FEMA expert.

:lol DMC mad and editing

Damn you must be in bad shape.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 02:32 AM
Damn you must be in bad shape.Damn you are desperate to make it about me.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 02:33 AM
You have no idea what you're whining about.

What's wrong with you?

You think that FEMA making rescources available in an "emergency" is proof of something.

Now clutch your pearls some more. :lol

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 02:36 AM
You think that FEMA making rescources available in an "emergency" is proof of something.
You have no idea what you're whining about.

What's wrong with you?

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 06:01 AM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.

Not how this works. You're a rational guy, so read my thread on the backfill phenomenon. What the state dashboards report isn't a reflection of reality on the ground. We have deaths from months and weeks ago just being logged. Boiled down, 300 people could've passed today, but you won't see those deaths show up in the stats for weeks and maybe months.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286236

When the pandemic first started, I also thought deaths were being counted in "real time." Splits taught me a lesson about it when I predicted New York's deaths per day would peak at around 120. He laughed me off. Little did I know, New York was already experiencing hundreds of deaths per day days or weeks before. Splits knew about the backfill phenomenon and called NY's peak pretty closely.

Xevious
07-11-2020, 07:33 AM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.
Most smaller hospitals don't have tons of morgue slabs to begin with, maybe two or three. The expectation (during normal times) is that funeral homes pick the patient directly up from their room as long as there are no hold ups with the medical examiner or anything.

So it isn't that hospital morgues don't want to hold these people, it's that funeral homes can't (or won't) get them all.

hater
07-11-2020, 07:48 AM
Makes more sense that they wouldn't want the corpses than that they lacked space, that refrigerated trucks would keep all the virus laden corpses away from workers and prevent contamination. But you're the forum pundit.

Why would they not want a body that died of a little flu?

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 07:53 AM
Most smaller hospitals don't have tons of morgue slabs to begin with, maybe two or three. The expectation (during normal times) is that funeral homes pick the patient directly up from their room as long as there are no hold ups with the medical examiner or anything.

So it isn't that hospital morgues don't want to hold these people, it's that funeral homes can't (or won't) get them all.

Many more people died today than the official "100" number. If you see my reply to DMC, those 100 victims weren't counted in real time. They probably died days to weeks ago.

Xevious
07-11-2020, 08:12 AM
Many more people died today than the official "100" number. If you see my reply to DMC, those 100 victims weren't counted in real time. They probably died days to weeks ago.
I understand that. I'm simply saying in regards to DMC's post is that it really wouldn't take a huge influx of deaths to overwhelm morgue capacity in some areas. Under normal circumstances, rural and smaller community hospitals rarely have to store corpses longer than a couple hours, and sending them off to the county morgue isn't done very often either.

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 08:15 AM
I understand that. I'm simply saying in regards to DMC's post is that it really wouldn't take a huge influx of deaths to overwhelm morgue capacity in some areas. Under normal circumstances, rural and smaller community hospitals rarely have to store corpses longer than a couple hours, and sending them off to the county morgue isn't done very often either.

Indeed so. Rural areas around the country can easily turn into their small versions of New Yorks with just 100 patients and 20 deaths.

hater
07-11-2020, 08:33 AM
Remember when the whole scamdemic began I called it out right away that the whole thing was a hoax? Everyone here laughed at me except for you. Well my theories don't sound so far fetch afterall outside of Chumpettes. My boy hater has a schtick to protect

So if everyone besides you was already fooled since day 1, whats the need of refrigerated carcass trucks ma nig?

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2020, 09:34 AM
Damn. Add Blue Bell to the toilet paper and paper towel shortage.

BSfromTX
07-11-2020, 09:35 AM
Why would they not want a body that died of a little flu?

Most likely they’re not allowed to take them

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 09:37 AM
Damn. Add Blue Bell to the toilet paper and paper towel shortage.Speaking of excess deaths....

hater
07-11-2020, 09:54 AM
Speaking of excess deaths....

:lmao

Xevious
07-11-2020, 10:08 AM
People still eat Blue Bell? Generic HEB ice cream tastes 10x better anyway.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 10:12 AM
People still eat Blue Bell? Generic HEB ice cream tastes 10x better anyway.

Boomers, tbh.

Xevious
07-11-2020, 10:49 AM
Boomers, tbh.
Shit, they make low carb ice cream now that tastes better than Blue Bell. :lol

DMC
07-11-2020, 12:13 PM
Oh, you'd say.


You just made yourself the ST corpse pundit. Own it.


Damn you are desperate to make it about me.

:lol

DMC
07-11-2020, 12:17 PM
Not how this works. You're a rational guy, so read my thread on the backfill phenomenon. What the state dashboards report isn't a reflection of reality on the ground. We have deaths from months and weeks ago just being logged. Boiled down, 300 people could've passed today, but you won't see those deaths show up in the stats for weeks and maybe months.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286236

When the pandemic first started, I also thought deaths were being counted in "real time." Splits taught me a lesson about it when I predicted New York's deaths per day would peak at around 120. He laughed me off. Little did I know, New York was already experiencing hundreds of deaths per day days or weeks before. Splits knew about the backfill phenomenon and called NY's peak pretty closely.

So you're working from a hypothetical? Do you think the backlogged death counts are being released one day at a time on daily deaths, or are they being compiled?

If the counts are not current, how do we know what it is and what the urgency should be? Without real time, accurate statistics, we are only discussing what happened weeks or months ago. What is happening right now? If we don't know, are we just grabbing a story from a news site and filling in the missing information with "probably" and "likely"? Why should that cause anyone to raise an eyebrow? People with optimism will minimalize the situation while the hand wringers here will inflate it to astronomical, end of times levels.

So the question remains. Why are morgues filling up or are they?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:17 PM
DerpMC trying to distract attention from his stupid take.

DMC
07-11-2020, 12:21 PM
Damn you are desperate to make it about me.


DerpMC trying to distract attention from his stupid take.

:lol

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:22 PM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.:lmao

DMC
07-11-2020, 12:25 PM
:lmao

I told you months ago that the counts are wrong. I was challenged to find the missing bodies. :lmao

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:27 PM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.:rollin

DMC
07-11-2020, 12:45 PM
:rollin

Interesting take

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:47 PM
Interesting takeYour take was laughable.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:48 PM
I told you months ago that the counts are wrong.

Chumpettes worship those fake numbers.

They think the higher they go the better the chance they'll get zombie rapist to replace orange man.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 12:49 PM
:lol derp and DerpMC's conspiracy theories

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 12:54 PM
So you're working from a hypothetical? Do you think the backlogged death counts are being released one day at a time on daily deaths, or are they being compiled?

If the counts are not current, how do we know what it is and what the urgency should be? Without real time, accurate statistics, we are only discussing what happened weeks or months ago. What is happening right now? If we don't know, are we just grabbing a story from a news site and filling in the missing information with "probably" and "likely"? Why should that cause anyone to raise an eyebrow? People with optimism will minimalize the situation while the hand wringers here will inflate it to astronomical, end of times levels.

So the question remains. Why are morgues filling up or are they?

Hospitalizations. They are accelerating. And deaths follow the hospitalizations and case curves pretty linearly.

1281752790998618116

This professor's projections have been right on.

1281871656676397056

What is happening "right now," is that clinics are being overwhelmed in these hotspots, which the hospitalization data shows. Presumably, deaths will follow these trends. Only thing that I could see bending the death curve is we've gotten much better a treating critical patients. But nothing is trending positively right now.

DMC
07-11-2020, 12:57 PM
Chumpettes worship those fake numbers.

They think the higher they go the better the chance they'll get zombie rapist to replace orange man.

The daily death counts are paramount for their arguments but can be casually dismissed as fake news due to backlog when the notion strikes.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 12:59 PM
The daily death counts are paramount for their arguments but can be casually dismissed as fake news due to backlog when the notion strikes.

They do all kinds of double takes.
TheGreatYacht

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:01 PM
The daily death counts are paramount for their arguments but can be casually dismissed as fake news due to backlog when the notion strikes.


Hospitalizations. They are accelerating. And deaths follow the hospitalizations and case curves pretty linearly.

1281752790998618116

This professor's projections have been right on.

1281871656676397056

What is happening "right now," is that clinics are being overwhelmed in these hotspots, which the hospitalization data shows. Presumably, deaths will follow these trends. Only thing that I could see bending the death curve is we've gotten much better a treating critical patients. But nothing is trending positively right now.
:lmao DerpMC

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 01:07 PM
:lmao DerpMC

I like DMC, and he'll be "Spock like" rational on some things, but just bullheaded on others. I'm sure he'll try to pick apart these projections with "skepticism," but I think Dr. Dave Blake has the qualifications to know what he's doing.


Med Sch Full Professor and Researcher. PhD Biomedical Engineer. Brain physiologist and data scientist.

And it's just common sense. You don't even need any data science to extrapolate what is going to happen. See Iran's trajectory. Cases peaked, flattened, peaking again. Deaths peaked, flattened, peaking again after the backfill caught up.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:07 PM
:lmao DerpMC

THoldren did solid work on you. You've been jelly since.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:11 PM
THoldren did solid work on you. You've been jelly since.The guy who said it's the flu?:lol

You've been afraid to answer simple questions about your stupid takes for years. Trying to make it about me personally is all you can do.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:13 PM
:lol at the notion of grandpa th:lolldren doing work on anyone.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:15 PM
I like DMC, and he'll be "Spock like" rational on some things, but just bullheaded on others. I'm sure he'll try to pick apart these projections with "skepticism," but I think Dr. Dave Blake has the qualifications to know what he's doing.



And it's just common sense. You don't even need any data science to extrapolate what is going to happen. See Iran's trajectory. Cases peaked, flattened, peaking again. Deaths peaked, flattened, peaking again after the backfill caught up.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/

Data is either relevant or it's not. Argument from authority doesn't make it either way though given a situation where I must trust one or the other based on nothing more than credentials, I'll take the doctor over the Youtube view farmer.

If you look at daily deaths you always see the weekend sawtooth. Those deaths get counted on other days. Why would that be? If Bob died on Saturday, ok count him on Saturday. Why count Bob's death on Monday as Monday's death total? Back date the death to the proper day and adjust the charts. The death total overall will not change but the data will be more accurate.

Hospitalizations do not equal deaths. People who would have been hospitalized for pneumonia a couple months ago are probably being more accurately diagnosed now. In fact the increased pneumonia death rate in Texas pretty clearly delineates that Texas had a higher death rate than previously stated, so the "trend", if adjusted to be accurate, would be flatter imo.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:16 PM
:lol at the notion of grandpa th:lolldren doing work on anyone.

He got you too COVID slave to your employer.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:17 PM
:lol at the notion of grandpa th:lolldren doing work on anyone.th:loldren cut way back on his posting after he learned from me that ten Texas hospitals were indeed at capacity last week. None of them can ever admit being wrong about anything.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:18 PM
He got you too COVID slave to your employer.:lol DMC wants to make it personal about TD too.

It's really all he has after he drops his facade.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:18 PM
The guy who said it's the flu?:lol

You've been afraid to answer simple questions about your stupid takes for years. Trying to make it about me personally is all you can do.

He took you to the woodshed and you've been in shambles since. He played your game and beat you at it. I always answer questions about my takes. You want answers about me. You make it personal, you're doing it again. You started doing it in this thread right away after tholdren broke one off in you.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:19 PM
He got you too COVID slave to your employer.

I've been home since, tbh.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:20 PM
th:loldren cut way back on his posting after he learned from me that ten Texas hospitals were indeed at capacity last week. None of them can ever admit being wrong about anything.

Cause vs correlation - you'll always take the "w" if you can twist it that way. If not, you'll spend all night and 40 pages trying to rebuild the path so you can.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:20 PM
:lol DMC wants to make it personal about TD too.

It's really all he has after he drops his facade.

He's so mad. :lol

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:21 PM
I've been home since, tbh.

You were the one fretting about losing your job while being at work with a fever during a pandemic. It wasn't a narrative anyone here created.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:22 PM
You were the one fretting about losing your job while being at work with a fever during a pandemic. It wasn't a narrative anyone here created.

K? It has since been cleared up and I've enjoyed a lengthy vacation at home. Get dat internet W tho.

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 01:22 PM
Data is either relevant or it's not. Argument from authority doesn't make it either way though given a situation where I must trust one or the other based on nothing more than credentials, I'll take the doctor over the Youtube view farmer.

If you look at daily deaths you always see the weekend sawtooth. Those deaths get counted on other days. Why would that be? If Bob died on Saturday, ok count him on Saturday. Why count Bob's death on Monday as Monday's death total? Back date the death to the proper day and adjust the charts. The death total overall will not change but the data will be more accurate.

Hospitalizations do not equal deaths. People who would have been hospitalized for pneumonia a couple months ago are probably being more accurately diagnosed now. In fact the increased pneumonia death rate in Texas pretty clearly delineates that Texas had a higher death rate than previously stated, so the "trend", if adjusted to be accurate, would be flatter imo.

Hospitalizations are an indication of how serious the situation is. They indicate a trend toward rising deaths. Yes, not everyone who is hospitalized is going to die, but more serious cases will simply translate into more deaths.

To account for the weekend sawtooth, it's more helpful to look at 7 day moving averages. In any event, boiled down: The Covid situation is more serious than it has been since New York was peaking. More people are dying right now and over the last week since that peak. Deaths will likely trend up for 2 weeks at least.

There's no use trying to find some light at the end of the tunnel by thinking the increased deaths are simply statistical aberrations and in reality we're flattening the death curve. We aren't.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:22 PM
He's so mad. :lol

So mad that I even gave you the laws that allow you to get tested and not get fired for doing so.

Really angry. Cast your lot with Chumpy. It suits you.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:22 PM
He took you to the woodshed and you've been in shambles since. He played your game and beat you at it.By being wrong from the very start?:lol


I always answer questions about my takes.That's just a lie, dude. You get angry and you make it personal. It's what you do. It's all a distraction from your bad takes like your refrigerated trailer conspiracy theory.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:24 PM
Hospitalizations are an indication of how serious the situation is. They indicate a trend toward rising deaths. Yes, not everyone who is hospitalized is going to die, but more serious cases will simply translate into more deaths.

To account for the weekend sawtooth, it's more helpful to look at 7 day moving averages. In any event, boiled down: The Covid situation is more serious than it has been since New York was peaking. More people are dying right now and over the last week than during that peak. Deaths will likely trend up for 2 weeks at least.

There's no use trying to find some light at the end of the tunnel by thinking the increased deaths are simply statistical aberrations and in reality we're flattening the death curve. We aren't.His light at the end of the tunnel is changing the subject to Cuomo.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:24 PM
So mad that I even gave you the laws that allow you to get tested and not get fired for doing so.

Really angry. Cast your lot with Chumpy. It suits you.

And I thank you. I'm literally telling you the situation was cleared up but you keep running with a negative spin on it to get your internet W.

Keep casting your lot with the tholdren and Derps of the world though. It certainly suits you, fat man.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:25 PM
By being wrong from the very start?:lol

That's just a lie, dude. You get angry and you make it personal. It's what you do. It's all a distraction from your bad takes like your refrigerated trailer conspiracy theory.
:lol Basically. It's like clockwork with him.

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 01:30 PM
His light at the end of the tunnel is changing the subject to Cuomo.

This entire thing has become political, unfortunately. Conservatives just don't want to accept that there's once again a peak coming because they fear maybe a shutdown which hurts the economy which hurts Trump. Or the conspiratorial types who think wearing a mask is the equivalent of the Nazis labeling Jews with gold stars.

"B-B-But libruls hype the situation hoping to hurt Trump!"

Perhaps some do, but I got into arguments with MannyisGod and Winehole at the start of it by saying this isn't the black plague. And I didn't like the media's reporting early on, with the constant Italy footage and flashing the Imperial projections on screen (i.e. Experts Project Up To 2 Million Dead).

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:34 PM
Cause vs correlation - you'll always take the "w" if you can twist it that way. If not, you'll spend all night and 40 pages trying to rebuild the path so you can.He couldn't even acknowledge that he read it. He just quietly stopped using "Texas hospitals not full" as one of his troll lines.

It was a bad take that got destroyed by reality. It doesn't really matter who posted the reality. It was inevitable.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:34 PM
Hospitalizations. They are accelerating. And deaths follow the hospitalizations and case curves pretty linearly.

1281752790998618116

This professor's projections have been right on.

1281871656676397056

What is happening "right now," is that clinics are being overwhelmed in these hotspots, which the hospitalization data shows. Presumably, deaths will follow these trends. Only thing that I could see bending the death curve is we've gotten much better a treating critical patients. But nothing is trending positively right now.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283058&page=739&p=10179994&viewfull=1#post10179994

I was using the 7 day moving average then.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:36 PM
And I thank you. I'm literally telling you the situation was cleared up but you keep running with a negative spin on it to get your internet W.

Keep casting your lot with the tholdren and Derps of the world though. It certainly suits you, fat man.

You're likely fatter than me.

I'm just calling it like I see it. Situation cleared up, but you're here acting like it never happened. You went from victim to cheerleader.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 01:39 PM
Hospitalizations are an indication of how serious the situation is. They indicate a trend toward rising deaths.

But you'll somehow have your bases covered when the death rate doesn't go up.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:39 PM
By being wrong from the very start?:lol

That's just a lie, dude. You get angry and you make it personal. It's what you do. It's all a distraction from your bad takes like your refrigerated trailer conspiracy theory.

No conspiracy theory (another lie you just manufactured out of thin air in your quest for a "w"). Wrongly connecting dots on this site doesn't equate to a conspiracy :lol

tholdren destroyed you. Your allies here can like and +1 all your shit they want, it won't change that.

DMC
07-11-2020, 01:41 PM
But you'll somehow have your bases covered when the death rate doesn't go up.

I don't believe the discussion is about deathrate. I think it's about total fatalities. I think the rate will go down as we develop better treatments. Of course the death rate I am referring to is the number of infected vs the number of deaths, aka ifr, not death per population which would affect morgue space.

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 01:54 PM
But you'll somehow have your bases covered when the death rate doesn't go up.

As DMC said, not talking about death rate. I know it's probably around .3 percent to .6 percent (CFR doesn't equal IFR). Deaths will go up, though. They already are.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:54 PM
This entire thing has become political, unfortunately. Conservatives just don't want to accept that there's once again a peak coming because they fear maybe a shutdown which hurts the economy which hurts Trump. Or the conspiratorial types who think wearing a mask is the equivalent of the Nazis labeling Jews with gold stars.

"B-B-But libruls hype the situation hoping to hurt Trump!"

Perhaps some do, but I got into arguments with MannyisGod and Winehole at the start of it by saying this isn't the black plague. And I didn't like the media's reporting early on, with the constant Italy footage and flashing the Imperial projections on screen (i.e. Experts Project Up To 2 Million Dead).I cited the 400k dead projection by the Nebraska epidemiologist a lot in the beginning. Even looking up the information about that I could tell that projections can be way off but still useful in spurring a general direction of policy and action. I also found out that right off the bat the most basic things were being mischaracterized like when most everyone was calling it an official AMA projection. It's been downhill ever since.

The increased politicization on the right is a defense mechanism IMO. Trump supporters can't possibly admit Trump fucked up worse than any president in history, so they have to find others to blame AND question whether things are actually as bad a Trump helped make things. You see it every day here, right down to fucking refrigerated truck conspiracy theories.

The thing that pisses me off most is that Texas WAS doing pretty well. Seems all we needed to do was open up more slowly with an actual plan to put the brakes on the expected rise in cases/hospitaizations/deaths. Instead we let the Balous Miller Strike Force just make up a plan out of whole cloth. The absolute best case scenario was the only one that was planned out. All the time and initial discipline and cooperation was wasted.

Now the Trump supporters are transitioning to the the Ivan Drago plan. If they die, they die.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:55 PM
No conspiracy theory (another lie you just manufactured out of thin air in your quest for a "w"). Wrongly connecting dots on this site doesn't equate to a conspiracy :lol

tholdren destroyed you. Your allies here can like and +1 all your shit they want, it won't change that.You're wrongly connecting the dots there. Don't get angry.

You've been looking for revenge ever since you wrongly connected imply and infer. It was a simple mistake.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 01:56 PM
But you'll somehow have your bases covered when the death rate doesn't go up.It's already going up.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 01:59 PM
You're likely fatter than me.

I'm just calling it like I see it. Situation cleared up, but you're here acting like it never happened. You went from victim to cheerleader.
Hell no. I've seen those sausages you call fingers. :lmao

Winehole23
07-11-2020, 02:06 PM
This entire thing has become political, unfortunately. Conservatives just don't want to accept that there's once again a peak coming because they fear maybe a shutdown which hurts the economy which hurts Trump. Or the conspiratorial types who think wearing a mask is the equivalent of the Nazis labeling Jews with gold stars.

"B-B-But libruls hype the situation hoping to hurt Trump!"

Perhaps some do, but I got into arguments with MannyisGod and Winehole at the start of it by saying this isn't the black plague. And I didn't like the media's reporting early on, with the constant Italy footage and flashing the Imperial projections on screen (i.e. Experts Project Up To 2 Million Dead).2 million dead if we do nothing wasn't an unreasonable projection, we could conceivably get to half a million deaths in the 12 month period.

Considering what hospitals in Texas are going through now and what NYC hospitals just went through, it was hardly irresponsible to splash Italy all over the news --- the opposite of this seems true to me.

Btw, neither Manny or I have compared COVID-19 to the Black Plague. Haven't seen anyone here who did, tbh.

SnakeBoy
07-11-2020, 02:12 PM
So 44 more deaths a day are filling up the morgues in the entire state of Arizona, and 100 a day in Texas? Really? Were they that pressed for space?

I'd say it's more likely morgues don't want COVID corpses. Otherwise, an event that killed, say... 3000 people would totally swamp Texas morgues (but people go to morgues in counties where they die).

The half truth/all out bullshit meter here is pegged.

True there's a lot of half truths/bullshit just for fear mongering. The actual situation is explained in the article.


People who die in hospitals or in nursing homes under a doctor’s care don’t usually go through the medical examiner’s office and will not go to the county morgue.

In Houston, a spokeswoman at the Harris County Institute of Forensic Sciences insisted that no extra capacity is needed at the county morgue right now. But individual hospitals are also counting on refrigerated trucks to expand their morgue’s capacity. HCA Healthcare Northwest confirmed to the Houston Chronicle that a refrigerated trailer is being used as temporary storage before the transfer from the hospital to funeral homes.

Williamson County had assembled a mobile morgue to be prepared, but it was returned to its vendor around June 1, given that the county has not seen large volumes of deaths in a short period of time. Their capacity is currently 50 bodies, between hospitals, funeral homes and the county morgue. A mobile unit “would be quite easy to add,” if the toll gets dire, county Judge Bill Gravell said.

Spurtacular
07-11-2020, 02:19 PM
It's already going up.

This a real-time summation?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 02:25 PM
This a real-time summation?No rabbit holes.

If you want to explain how your Texas statistics conspiracy theory fits into your overall pandemic conspiracy theory, go right ahead.

koriwhat
07-11-2020, 02:28 PM
The mud skippin' chicken little strikes again!

midnightpulp
07-11-2020, 02:38 PM
2 million dead if we do nothing wasn't an unreasonable projection, we could conceivably get to half a million deaths in the 12 month period.

Considering what hospitals in Texas are going through now and what NYC hospitals just went through, it was hardly irresponsible to splash Italy all over the news --- the opposite of this seems true to me.

Btw, neither Manny or I have compared COVID-19 to the Black Plague. Haven't seen anyone here who did, tbh.

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, just illustrating that I'm and many others arent motivated by how the probable death toll will help or hurt "our side" politically. I dont accuse you of that either.

As for 2 million dead, that was with 60 million infected, so it means a potential 10 million dead if the virus infected everyone.

I agree, 300-500k is probably where we'll wind up before vaccine, herd immunity, etc.

DMC
07-11-2020, 04:45 PM
Hell no. I've seen those sausages you call fingers. :lmao

I would offer you my standard bet but knowing you have a shitty job that you cannot even take a day off when you have COVID, you'd not be able to cover and I am not interested in your Sanyo receiver.

DMC
07-11-2020, 04:47 PM
This entire thing has become political, unfortunately. Conservatives just don't want to accept that there's once again a peak coming because they fear maybe a shutdown which hurts the economy which hurts Trump. Or the conspiratorial types who think wearing a mask is the equivalent of the Nazis labeling Jews with gold stars.

"B-B-But libruls hype the situation hoping to hurt Trump!"

Perhaps some do, but I got into arguments with MannyisGod and Winehole at the start of it by saying this isn't the black plague. And I didn't like the media's reporting early on, with the constant Italy footage and flashing the Imperial projections on screen (i.e. Experts Project Up To 2 Million Dead).

So is the claim bullshit or not? It seems obvious that the left is using fear mongering to try to gain votes in November. Why would anyone think otherwise? The right would do it if the left was in the WH.

DMC
07-11-2020, 04:49 PM
True there's a lot of half truths/bullshit just for fear mongering. The actual situation is explained in the article.

Chumpy will ignore the facts in favor of shit posting emojis without context.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2020, 04:56 PM
Chumpy will ignore the facts in favor of shit posting emojis without context.
Way ahead of you actually.

I will stick with the caveat that many places are procuring refrigerated trucks and trailers in anticipation of the possibility their morgues will fill up. Some places have probably done this before with hurricanes, etc. One thing to keep in mind is that Texas does not count probable COVID deaths in their public reports, so there are likely even more bodies than normal+listed COVID.Authorities have to prepare in advance for things that may or may not happen regardless of your narrative.

TimDunkem
07-11-2020, 05:14 PM
I would offer you my standard bet but knowing you have a shitty job that you cannot even take a day off when you have COVID, you'd not be able to cover and I am not interested in your Sanyo receiver.

Sure, sausage fingers. Sure. :lmao

hater
07-16-2020, 12:54 PM
Called it

San Antonio

Ground zero

https://twitter.com/Mr_JCE/status/1283821700157775878?s=19

DMC
07-16-2020, 02:14 PM
I mean if John Carlos Estrada said it then it must be true. It's on Twitter.

baseline bum
07-16-2020, 02:48 PM
Called it

San Antonio

Ground zero

https://twitter.com/Mr_JCE/status/1283821700157775878?s=19

How long you think until we get New York / Iran style mass graves?

ChumpDumper
07-16-2020, 02:54 PM
I mean if John Carlos Estrada said it then it must be true. It's on Twitter.:lol He's a TV newsman in your city who provided links to other news outlets and a video of his own report.

TimDunkem
07-16-2020, 02:57 PM
And now they're scrubbing some of the probable Covid cases because they use an antigen test. :lol

Smh

All you can do at this point is shake your head.

hater
07-16-2020, 04:54 PM
How long you think until we get New York / Iran style mass graves?

As soon as carcass space runs out at the basement of El Alamo

baseline bum
07-16-2020, 05:40 PM
As soon as carcass space runs out at the basement of El Alamo

As long as they come first for Thread and Arizona I'm good.