Yeah that herd immunity without a vaccine might not ever happen

[Blake]

"Wait. I can catch Covid twice?” my 50-year-old patient asked in disbelief. It was the beginning of July, and he had just tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, for a second time — three months after a previous infection

While there’s still much we don’t understand about immunity to this new illness, a small but growing number of cases like his suggest the answer is “yes.”

Covid-19 may also be much worse the second time around. During his first infection, my patient experienced a mild cough and sore throat. His second infection, in contrast, was marked by a high fever, shortness of breath, and hypoxia, resulting in multiple trips to the hospital.

Recent reports and conversations with physician colleagues suggest my patient is not alone. Two patients in New Jersey, for instance, appear to have contracted Covid-19 a second time almost two months after fully recovering from their first infection.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

[hater]

Called it

[hater]

Called it

https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1282564633753202690?s=19

Nail in the coffin for herd immunity myth

[hater]

Damn only a vaccine or miracle might be the only solution nigs :cry

Any sane persons plan should be:
- wait for a vaccine to mature (6m to 1y)
- meanwhile protect hourself. Masks, quarantine, social distance

This next year is gonna be brutal for all of us :wow

Looks like Russian vaccine will be first. Will protect you for 2 years. Chinese are probably next then the West.

Tough times ahead nigz. Buckle up and tighten the assholes

[JamStone]

Also reading in many cases, antibodies disappear within weeks.

If that’s true, pre-vaccine herd immunity is essentially impossible.

[hater]

Also reading in many cases, antibodies disappear within weeks.

If that’s true, pre-vaccine herd immunity is essentially impossible.

It was always a myth. I said it from day one.

Herd immunity without wonder vaccine = total surrender

[tholdren]

Lockdown forever its the only way. In every country. Everywhere.

[ChumpDumper]

Same straw man every time.

[in2deep]

It was always a myth. I said it from day one.

Herd immunity without wonder vaccine = total surrender

More like = to mass murder

[tholdren]

Same straw man every time.

Lol ifr less than flu in fla tex az....

Strange.

[TimDunkem]

Tell us how you dominated back with thos sick set shots back in 68' th:lolldren bwahahaha grandpa

[Chinook]

Basically means that the death rate could increase with each successive wave. Having already had Corona would be considered a preexisting condition to increase risk rather than a mitigating factor. So the number of folks who are in the risk category would just keep going up.

[midnightpulp]

Lol ifr less than flu in fla tex az....

Strange.

Show your math

[SnakeBoy]

Damn only a vaccine or miracle might be the only solution nigs :cry

Any sane persons plan should be:
- wait for a vaccine to mature (6m to 1y)
- meanwhile protect hourself. Masks, quarantine, social distance

This next year is gonna be brutal for all of us :wow

Looks like Russian vaccine will be first. Will protect you for 2 years. Chinese are probably next then the West.

Tough times ahead nigz. Buckle up and tighten the assholes

Then why did they give a booster after only a couple of months?

Can someone explain how a vaccine would illicit a lasting immune response when the actual virus doesn't?

[Will Hunting]

Then why did they give a booster after only a couple of months?

Can someone explain how a vaccine would illicit a lasting immune response when the actual virus doesn't?
I’m wondering this as well. Unless they’ve developed some unique way to keep antibody levels elevated longer, I don’t see why a vaccine would do more than surviving the virus would.

[hater]

Yeah I will treat that 2 year thing as just another marketing BS for now

[hater]

The next big question is IF our human bodies retain the virus memory. If they do that means 2nd time you get this should be milder.

IF it doesnt we are sooooooo fucked

[Spurtacular]

A sad day for blake.

He may have to stop cum guzzling for the rest of his life.

[boutons_deux]

If infection doesn't cause immunity, then what hope for a vaccine?

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah I will treat that 2 year thing as just another marketing BS for now

The whole Russia is first thing is marketing BS. All they really said was their vaccine produced the desired immune response which Pfizer, BioNtech, Moderna, and others have already done. That doesn't mean it works or has lasting protection.

I was just looking at some of the early test results from those companies. It looks like they are all giving multiple doses in a short period of time in order to boost antibodies above what is found in infected people. Doesn't bode well for a vaccine coming to the rescue imo but I hope I'm wrong.

[baseline bum]

The whole Russia is first thing is marketing BS. All they really said was their vaccine produced the desired immune response which Pfizer, BioNtech, Moderna, and others have already done. That doesn't mean it works or has lasting protection.

I was just looking at some of the early test results from those companies. It looks like they are all giving multiple doses in a short period of time in order to boost antibodies above what is found in infected people. Doesn't bode well for a vaccine coming to the rescue imo but I hope I'm wrong.

So basically we're fucked and unfuckable?

[SnakeBoy]

If infection doesn't cause immunity, then what hope for a vaccine?

They could still have a vaccine that provides short term immunity for vulnerable populations. Wouldn't be practical or doable for the general population.

[SnakeBoy]

So basically we're fucked and unfuckable?

You could get a vaccine and go back for a booster every 90 days for the rest of your life :lol

[hater]

You could get a vaccine and go back for a booster every 90 days for the rest of your life :lol

If the virus memory T cell thingy fails a monthly shot might be the only option :lol

Or wear some kind of helmet permanently :lol

[pgardn]

If the virus memory T cell thingy fails a monthly shot might be the only option :lol

Or wear some kind of helmet permanently :lol

This should have already taken place after the first infection.

You dont get how immunity is supposed to work in theory.
The first infection should be the best vaccine you can get hombre.

[boutons_deux]

So basically we're fucked and unfuckable?

After 30+ years for HIV, no vaccine, only treatment

I guessing with the $Bs spent chasing C19 vaccine(s), there will be one or more.

Russell Westbrook is infected

[pgardn]

Unless we can somehow get passive immunity to work on people who have already been infected.
Or, vaccine along with giving a source of antibodies from elsewhere (passive immunity) for people who have not been infected. not good at all.

This does not sound practical at all, and I am personally going to stick with the hope that most people do become immune after the first infection.
This is not good news.

[Trainwreck2100]

Also reading in many cases, antibodies disappear within weeks.

If that’s true, pre-vaccine herd immunity is essentially impossible.

well yeah, you don't have anti-bodies for every disease swimming around your bloodstream, it's about the memory TCells

[pgardn]

well yeah, you don't have anti-bodies for every disease swimming around your bloodstream, it's about the memory TCells

Yep.
And these should be plentiful after the first infection so one has a robust response to the 2nd infection, so robust that you dont even know you have been infected.

[SnakeBoy]

Unless we can somehow get passive immunity to work on people who have already been infected.
Or, vaccine along with giving a source of antibodies from elsewhere (passive immunity) for people who have not been infected. not good at all.

This does not sound practical at all, and I am personally going to stick with the hope that most people do become immune after the first infection.
This is not good news.

I'm going to stick with the idea that we all get infected repeatedly and the first infection is the worse. Each successive infection will produce milder illness. Eventually once the entire population has been infected repeatedly Covid-19 will be considered a common cold virus like the other HCoV's. It will take the toll on mankind that it's going to take as that natural process plays out.

A vaccine even if it provided only short term protection could take the place of the initial infection and reduce the severity of subsequent infections which would reduce the mortality rate. That could just be wishful thinking on my part. I have no evidence to back that up.

[Blake]

"last week, a Spanish government study found that just 5% of people in Spain have coronavirus antibodies and in a potentially worrying development, the study also indicated that people's immunity to coronavirus wanes after just a few weeks. The findings show that 95% of Spain's population remains susceptible to the virus.

This means that any perceived immunity "can be incomplete, transitory and then disappear," Dr. Raquel Yotti, head of the Carlos III Health Institute, a key government agency leading the study, said in a news conference at the time......"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/covid-immunity-antibody-response-uk-study-wellness/index.html

[SnakeBoy]

"last week, a Spanish government study found that just 5% of people in Spain have coronavirus antibodies and in a potentially worrying development, the study also indicated that people's immunity to coronavirus wanes after just a few weeks. The findings show that 95% of Spain's population remains susceptible to the virus.

This means that any perceived immunity "can be incomplete, transitory and then disappear," Dr. Raquel Yotti, head of the Carlos III Health Institute, a key government agency leading the study, said in a news conference at the time......"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/covid-immunity-antibody-response-uk-study-wellness/index.html

This is something I mentioned quite some time ago...


Similar short-lived responses are seen against other human coronaviruses that predominantly cause only mild illness, meaning that we can be re-infected as time goes by and outbreaks can adopt seasonality.

It could be seasonality doesn't exist or develop until essentially the whole or majority of the population has been infected.

Although it is kind of interesting that places that experienced big outbreaks early on were generally colder winter temps while places with mild temps didn't experience large outbreaks until it got hot. Could be the virus thrives in hot or cold temps but doesn't like the middle ground. Guess we just have to wait 10 weeks to see what happens to the northeast when temps start dropping.

[RandomGuy]

I'm going to stick with the idea that we all get infected repeatedly and the first infection is the worse. Each successive infection will produce milder illness. Eventually once the entire population has been infected repeatedly Covid-19 will be considered a common cold virus like the other HCoV's. It will take the toll on mankind that it's going to take as that natural process plays out.

A vaccine even if it provided only short term protection could take the place of the initial infection and reduce the severity of subsequent infections which would reduce the mortality rate. That could just be wishful thinking on my part. I have no evidence to back that up.

Sounds like some fairly solid reasoning. This thing will be cutting years off of average life spans for the next decade or so, would be my guess.

[Blake]

This is something I mentioned quite some time ago...



It could be seasonality doesn't exist or develop until essentially the whole or majority of the population has been infected.

Although it is kind of interesting that places that experienced big outbreaks early on were generally colder winter temps while places with mild temps didn't experience large outbreaks until it got hot. Could be the virus thrives in hot or cold temps but doesn't like the middle ground. Guess we just have to wait 10 weeks to see what happens to the northeast when temps start dropping.

At this point i really don't think covid cares about temperature

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1282749340935548928

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, I think the prospect of T-cell immunity is encouraging. Antibody prevalence doesn't necessarily betray immunity.

My fear is the derp immunity crowd will run with this and use it as excuse to just "yolo" it. The more we learn about this virus, the more clear is that intentional herd immunity is a bad idea. We know nothing about long term effects yet. This is looking to be a vascular disease as much as a respiratory one.

[Winehole23]

This is looking to be a vascular disease as much as a respiratory one.hence, the incidence of strokes and damage to organs throughout the body.

[midnightpulp]

hence, the incidence of strokes and damage to organs throughout the body.

Just a little flu, bro!

[midnightpulp]

hence, the incidence of strokes and damage to organs throughout the body.

Just a little flu, bro!

[TSA]

The impact of host resistance on cumulative mortality and the threshold of herd immunity for SARS-CoV-2

Abstract

It is widely believed that the herd immunity threshold (HIT) required to prevent a resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 is in excess of 50% for any epidemiological setting. Here, we demonstrate that HIT may be greatly reduced if a fraction of the population is unable to transmit the virus due to innate resistance or cross-protection from exposure to seasonal coronaviruses. The drop in HIT is proportional to the fraction of the population resistant only when that fraction is effectively segregated from the general population; however, when mixing is random, the drop in HIT is more precipitous. Significant reductions in expected mortality can also be observed in settings where a fraction of the population is resistant to infection. These results help to explain the large degree of regional variation observed in seroprevalence and cumulative deaths and suggest that sufficient herd-immunity may already be in place to substantially mitigate a potential second wave.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.15.20154294v1

[boutons_deux]

"potential second wave" :lol weasel words

the ACTUAL first wave is still increasing, with DOUBLE the cases compared to March/April

with predictions of even much bigger ACTUAL first wave in a couple months when the flu season starts.

Potential herd immunity talk is just academic bullshit speculation, totally absent all evidence or even historical b/g.

Meanwhile ALL OTHER INDUSTRIAL countries have their pandemic under control

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&casesMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=USA~FRA~DEU~CAN~ITA~JPN~NOR~FIN~DNK~CHE~ES P~AUT&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[boutons_deux]

herd immunity?

3M, less that 1%, cases in a population of 330M ain't delivering no fucking herd immunity. total bullshit

[Blake]

The impact of host resistance on cumulative mortality and the threshold of herd immunity for SARS-CoV-2

Abstract

It is widely believed that the herd immunity threshold (HIT) required to prevent a resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 is in excess of 50% for any epidemiological setting. Here, we demonstrate that HIT may be greatly reduced if a fraction of the population is unable to transmit the virus due to innate resistance or cross-protection from exposure to seasonal coronaviruses. The drop in HIT is proportional to the fraction of the population resistant only when that fraction is effectively segregated from the general population; however, when mixing is random, the drop in HIT is more precipitous. Significant reductions in expected mortality can also be observed in settings where a fraction of the population is resistant to infection. These results help to explain the large degree of regional variation observed in seroprevalence and cumulative deaths and suggest that sufficient herd-immunity may already be in place to substantially mitigate a potential second wave.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.15.20154294v1

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

Smh disingenuous lazy tsa

[hater]

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

Smh disingenuous lazy tsa

:lmao :lmao

What does this mean?

A bunch of college kids got together and wrote some shit after a few bong hits :lmao

[TSA]

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

Smh disingenuous lazy tsa

Says the guy who posted an article from Vox with the one doctor and his one patient :lmao


"Wait. I can catch Covid twice?” my 50-year-old patient asked in disbelief. It was the beginning of July, and he had just tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, for a second time — three months after a previous infection

While there’s still much we don’t understand about immunity to this new illness, a small but growing number of cases like his suggest the answer is “yes.”

Covid-19 may also be much worse the second time around. During his first infection, my patient experienced a mild cough and sore throat. His second infection, in contrast, was marked by a high fever, shortness of breath, and hypoxia, resulting in multiple trips to the hospital.

Recent reports and conversations with physician colleagues suggest my patient is not alone. Two patients in New Jersey, for instance, appear to have contracted Covid-19 a second time almost two months after fully recovering from their first infection.

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

:lmao

[Blake]

Says the guy who posted an article from Vox with the one doctor and his one patient :lmao



:lmao

The title says "might".

The article is clearly anecdotal.

Tsa being disingenuous again.

[TSA]

'Delhi’s Sero Survey Results Show We Are Fast Approaching Herd Immunity': Epidemiologist J P Muliyil

In an exclusive interview, noted epidemiologist Jayaprakash Muliyil tells Outlook that the results of the Delhi’s Sero survey indicate that we are fast approaching herd immunity. He says Covid pandemic is going to end on its own when we reach herd immunity.

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-delhis-sero-survey-results-show-we-are-fast-approaching-herd-immunity-epidemiologist-j-p-muliyil/357205

[Blake]

'Delhi’s Sero Survey Results Show We Are Fast Approaching Herd Immunity': Epidemiologist J P Muliyil

In an exclusive interview, noted epidemiologist Jayaprakash Muliyil tells Outlook that the results of the Delhi’s Sero survey indicate that we are fast approaching herd immunity. He says Covid pandemic is going to end on its own when we reach herd immunity.

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-delhis-sero-survey-results-show-we-are-fast-approaching-herd-immunity-epidemiologist-j-p-muliyil/357205


Q) If an individual has developed antibodies against the virus, does that mean he/she is protected from Coronavirus?

In my opinion, the person is protected for a long time, maybe even for lifetime. It’s not the first virus to come into the world. We, doctors, learn about hundreds of viruses. All of them produce immunity, which is mostly a long-lasting one. I agree that there are some exceptions. This virus, we thought, is going to be an exception. Now we know that it is also behaving like any other virus. If a person gets re-infected with coronavirus, his/her body will make sure that he/she doesn’t die of this disease.

From that link. Great if it's true

[Blake]

"....Recovery from the disease provides antibodies to fight off the infection. The shelf life of those antibodies, however, may be insufficient to protect a patient for very long or promote long-term immunity across populations.

"The possibility of reinfection is certainly real," Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told USA TODAY. "And one that I am seeing repeatedly on the front lines."

We are months away from knowing for certain if reinfections are possible or a significant issue," Griffin told USA TODAY..."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/16/covid-19-can-you-get-infected-twice-herd-immunity/5429012002/

[ChumpDumper]

So now we should just max out the hospitals and wait for herd immunity to save us.

Oh wait. That's what we're actually doing already.

Mission accomplished.

[Blake]

So now we should just max out the hospitals and wait for herd immunity to save us.

Oh wait. That's what we're actually doing already.

Mission accomplished.

Why even wear masks at this point. Let's just open it all up and let the people die that are gonna die any way

[DarrinS]

"....Recovery from the disease provides antibodies to fight off the infection. The shelf life of those antibodies, however, may be insufficient to protect a patient for very long or promote long-term immunity across populations.

"The possibility of reinfection is certainly real," Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told USA TODAY. "And one that I am seeing repeatedly on the front lines."

We are months away from knowing for certain if reinfections are possible or a significant issue," Griffin told USA TODAY..."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/16/covid-19-can-you-get-infected-twice-herd-immunity/5429012002/

You are like a broken record with this antibody negativity. It's only ONE part of the immune response.

[Blake]

You are like a broken record with this antibody negativity. It's only ONE part of the immune response.

It's not me saying it, dumbass.

[DarrinS]

It's not me saying it, dumbass.

Read other stuff besides panic porn

[Blake]

Read other stuff besides panic porn

It's a quote from a doctor, dumbass. Read stuff instead of watching fun YouTube.

[Blake]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/24/894148860/without-a-vaccine-researchers-say-herd-immunity-may-never-be-achieved

Across the North Sea, however, Sweden continued to pursue an approach with the potential to achieve herd immunity — though the government never stated it as a goal. Swedish authorities recommended taking precautions at an individual level and banned gatherings of more than 50 people, but the nation stopped short of ordering restaurants and bars closed. In April, the Swedish ambassador boasted that Stockholm might achieve herd immunity by the end of May.

That never happened, Sridhar says. "Sweden is stuck at 6% for months now," she says, in reference to the percentage of residents who have antibodies to the coronavirus. Meanwhile, the country has suffered economic devastation and far higher death rates than its Nordic neighbors.

The main reason herd immunity hasn't been achieved, she suspects, is that to get there, many millions of Swedes would have to catch COVID-19. That could happen in the abstract, but in reality, most individuals deliberately try their hardest to avoid contracting the disease. "Nobody wants to be part of the herd," she says.

[DarrinS]

It's a quote from a doctor, dumbass. Read stuff instead of watching fun YouTube.

You and boutons post panic porn daily.

[tholdren]

Covid vax going to be as effective as flu vax but will somehow justify end of govt intervention

[DarrinS]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/24/894148860/without-a-vaccine-researchers-say-herd-immunity-may-never-be-achieved

Across the North Sea, however, Sweden continued to pursue an approach with the potential to achieve herd immunity — though the government never stated it as a goal. Swedish authorities recommended taking precautions at an individual level and banned gatherings of more than 50 people, but the nation stopped short of ordering restaurants and bars closed. In April, the Swedish ambassador boasted that Stockholm might achieve herd immunity by the end of May.

That never happened, Sridhar says. "Sweden is stuck at 6% for months now," she says, in reference to the percentage of residents who have antibodies to the coronavirus. Meanwhile, the country has suffered economic devastation and far higher death rates than its Nordic neighbors.

The main reason herd immunity hasn't been achieved, she suspects, is that to get there, many millions of Swedes would have to catch COVID-19. That could happen in the abstract, but in reality, most individuals deliberately try their hardest to avoid contracting the disease. "Nobody wants to be part of the herd," she says.



Probably more deaths than they would like, but look at current rates

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[ChumpDumper]

Probably more deaths than they would like, but look at current rates

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/TOTALLY WORTH IT. LET'S GET TO DYING!

[Blake]

You and boutons post panic porn daily.

Just quotes from people on the front lines. They don't care about your feels.

[DarrinS]

TOTALLY WORTH IT. LET'S GET TO DYING!

You're safe, dipshit. Probably wear your N95 while driving alone. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You're safe, dipshit. Probably wear your N95 while driving alone. :lmaoI don't even have an N95.

Narrative fail.

[tholdren]

TOTALLY WORTH IT. LET'S GET TO DYING!

chumpdump advocating for eugenics just like i said he would in march.

I said he would go from flatten curve
To prevent all cases

And here we are.

[tholdren]

Just quotes from people on the front lines. They don't care about your feels.

you lied about ny schools lol

[DarrinS]

Just quotes from people on the front lines. They don't care about your feels.

Well, I actually know people on the front lines. Piss off.

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump advocating for eugenics just like i said he would in march.

I said he would go from flatten curve
To prevent all cases

And here we are.Lies and gossip.

th:lolldren can't help himself.

[tholdren]

0 hospitals over capacity ever. Even ny. Even with their government causing more death than needed

[tholdren]

Lies and gossip.

th:lolldren can't help himself.

chumpdump doesn't deny only changes subject and lies.

Ironic he shames trump for same

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump doesn't denyI just denied it.

You lied again.

[tholdren]

chumpdump doesn't deny only changes subject and lies.

Ironic he shames trump for same

Here's the full quote

[ChumpDumper]

Here's the full quoteYeah, you lied.

Thanks for verifying.

[tholdren]

People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover

[tholdren]

People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover

BwahahahahahahahhahahahhahahHHHhahahahah

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren lost his mind.

Bunker madness.

[tholdren]

th:lolldren lost his mind.

Bunker madness.

You even said wait 2 weeks loloooooololool

[ChumpDumper]

You even said wait 2 weeks loloooooololoolAnd I was right.

You said 10k deaths tops.

[tholdren]

And I was right.

You said 10k deaths tops.

bwahahhahahahahahhaHhHHHHHHH

Cdc just said You were wrong.


BwahahhaahahahhahahahHahH

And you are in denial



Bwahhaahahahaa

[tholdren]

bwahahhahahahahahhaHhHHHHHHH

Cdc just said You were wrong.


BwahahhaahahahhahahahHahH

And you are in denial



Bwahhaahahahaa
Lololl ChumpDumper not intelligent enough to understand why this is problematic for his argument

[tholdren]

Instead of publishing this weeks ago media wanted to hype up those tx and fl hospitals that would be completely full...... lollooloool

2 weeks


I mean 10 days




I mean 3 months


Bwahahahahahahhahah ifr

[Blake]

Well, I actually know people on the front lines. Piss off.

Oh well in that case those doctors quotes must not count because you know a guy.

This is my thread with real anecdotes from real people, dumbass. If it's touching sensitive nerves then get the fuck out of here already.

[DarrinS]

Oh well in that case those doctors quotes must not count because you know a guy.

This is my thread with real anecdotes from real people, dumbass. If it's touching sensitive nerves then get the fuck out of here already.

^ :cry

No immunity. We're all gonna die.

[Blake]

^ :cry

No immunity. We're all gonna die.

Lol sensitive

[tholdren]

Lol sensitive

Lol cdc said 2 weeks ago you you are fine 10 days after symptoms

Cdc said 2 weeks ago you could be positive pcr 3 months after having covid


Muh daily cases


Lololol you wrong boi

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahhahahahahahhaHhHHHHHHH

Cdc just said You were wrong.


BwahahhaahahahhahahahHahH

And you are in denial



Bwahhaahahahaa:lol you lie

[tholdren]

:lol you lie

The CDC also notes that virus fragments have been found in patients up to three months after the onset of the illness, although those pieces of virus have not been shown to be capable of transmitting the disease.

“You could be positive by PCR test long after no longer being infectious,” Giroir said during the Health and Human Services briefing July 1

[tholdren]

Muh daily cases.... loloo9ooollolll


ChumpDumper wrong

[ChumpDumper]

The CDC also notes that virus fragments have been found in patients up to three months after the onset of the illness, although those pieces of virus have not been shown to be capable of transmitting the disease.

“You could be positive by PCR test long after no longer being infectious,” Giroir said during the Health and Human Services briefing July 1Yeah, you're lying about me, dumbass.

th:lolldren

[tholdren]

Yeah, you're lying about me, dumbass.

th:lolldren

bwahahahhaahha name calling because you wrong

Lolloolol

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahahhaahha name calling because you wrong

LolloololI called you a dumbass because you're a dumbass.

And you lie.

:lol

[tholdren]

I called you a dumbass because you're a dumbass.

And you lie.

:lol

Beahahahhahahahahahahahha

Daily cases proven as irrelevant

2 weeks proven false.


Lolol

The last ChumpDumper hopes of being right

GONE

bwhahahahahahhahahahaha
Months of cognitive dissonance

[ChumpDumper]

Beahahahhahahahahahahahha

Daily cases proven as irrelevant

2 weeks proven false.


Lolol

The last ChumpDumper hopes of being right

GONE

bwhahahahahahhahahahaha
Months of cognitive dissonanceth:lolldren's lost his mind.

[tholdren]

th:lolldren's lost his mind.

admit you were wrong about 2 weeks and case count

I'll wait

[ChumpDumper]

admit you were wrong about 2 weeks and case count

I'll waitWhat are you even saying, ducks?

[Joseph Kony]

really cringey seeing all these "bahaha" posts. grow up you fucking loser :lol

[DarrinS]

really cringey seeing all these "bahaha" posts. grow up you fucking loser :lol

Joseph King account

[Blake]

Lol cdc said 2 weeks ago you you are fine 10 days after symptoms

Cdc said 2 weeks ago you could be positive pcr 3 months after having covid


Muh daily cases


Lololol you wrong boi

No idea what you're blithering about. Don't care.

[DarrinS]

Joseph Kony account