Texas Covid actuals. What's "really" happening. Don't believe the numbers.

[pgardn]

The information bubble created by the internet has made this condition much, much worse. You usually had a hope to "deprogram" a conspiracy theorist with rationality and such. Like if you met a flat earther in the 80s. You might ask, "okay, show me the evidence. A study. Something." They really wouldn't have anything to show you aside from opinion. Perhaps they'd reflect on this and eventually rejoin rational thinking.

Now they can just google or youtube "evidence" from conspiracy sites of their claims.

there is also some compulsion to be out ahead of the so-called sheep.
The likelihood of anyone on this board making some discovery about government, a sports team, science, a new math is about nil. Firstly we are not reporters to be on hand to witness anything, and secondly there just aren’t enough of us to do anything noteworthy for the rest of society (Noteworthy enough that the rest of society benefits from knowing what we found).

so the next best thing is to be ahead of the rest (like our stock market and gold experts on this site) One way to accomplish this is to take the mundane (The earth is round) and challenge it. Some perceive this makes them instantly special, above the rest.

The proper way to challenge is to make them justify their new take. Ask questions and eventually one finds that their beliefs become quite bizarre and unlikely. Chumper does this all the time. This method can be fairly exhausting. And usually results in the all knowing one to tap out. Then they go on to their next golden nugget of information. Then return to the old bizarre theory and propose it again.
Or you (Mid) might put up a quite long, complete explanation again and we recycle.

imo we have some very insecure posters that want to be noticed and they want to be correct. Well that becomes very difficult when you take a very bizarre theory to explain some thing that has a much easier explanation. And then you cannot admit any sort of mistake and must overlook any new information that does not fit your theory. And that information will show up because their theory is very unlikely to begin with.


There are also some posters who realize their stance or take has not been well thought out, or new evidence emerges and then they are purposely disingenuous in order to reestablish their perceived lofty message board status.

we don’t see enough “I was wrong” or “this new evidence changes my thoughts on the matter, thanks for bringing it up”. The new evidence is now a mess because any space cadet can fashion a NewTube with differing hogwash evidence to become popular with the insecure.

so, CALLED IT ... it’s like a shot of dopamine I guess

tldr

[midnightpulp]

You can hide in the herd all you want. Lite admitted you were wrong until he found out that he was siding with me and not you. :lol

:cry Excess deaths and actual deaths are the same thing :cry

:lol Look in the mirror, buddy.

Who is Lite? Ping him and we can ask if him he thought I was wrong.

[tholdren]

Agreed, 100%. Came to that conclusion during the 9-11 Twoof Wars of '06-'09, and the Fake Moon Landings campaign that is still being fought today, ten years after its founding.

Hard to argue with insanity.

Lolololl

Its good for you. No more terrible logic or math computation.


Lol you said all of texas would be over capacity by July 13.

Wrong


Lololoo

[RandomGuy]

This can't undercut hospitals reporting to the state, which in turns shows up in public reports for all of us to see. CDC gets that data afterward. My guess is why Lord Trump wants to control the data flow here (he won't be able to cover up confirmed deaths, since those will be reported to the state) is to manipulate the excess death tally. My gut tells me we're probably undercounting by 30-50K.

This will show up eventually in the CDC's excess death data when all the death certificates are process in the following weeks. Knowing how his simple brain works, he really, really wants to keep the confirmed death below 200K to use as a campaign brag, "Here the experts were telling us 200K or more deaths and we beat that goal!" A report coming out that the US suffered 250K excess deaths or whatever from the start of the pandemic to October or something would call into question his narrative.

Eyup. We are in absolute agreement on that point. The smart ones like Snakeboy know that, even if they aren't honest enough to admit that. The alarming strategy of trying to undercut Fauci at this point is a losing battle. They just aren't smart enough, or trusted enough to win that one. Scary that they think they have to.

"explain the spike" Republicans are going to take some hits from trying to be dishonest about it, I hope. It is plain to ME at least, but let's hope the case is made easy to the uninformed middle.

[RandomGuy]

The information bubble created by the internet has made this condition much, much worse. You usually had a hope to "deprogram" a conspiracy theorist with rationality and such. Like if you met a flat earther in the 80s. You might ask, "okay, show me the evidence. A study. Something." They really wouldn't have anything to show you aside from opinion. Perhaps they'd reflect on this and eventually rejoin rational thinking.

Now they can just google or youtube "evidence" from conspiracy sites of their claims.

Eyup. They do exactly what they do here, point to a fucking yootoob as "evidence", then ignore anything and everything you post that shreds it, then pivot to the next yootoob. It takes vastly more time/effort to debunk this shit than it does to do that.

[RandomGuy]

"hospitals reporting to the state, which in turns shows up in public reports"

... Desantis/FL has already demonstrated that the "state" will distort, hide the data to fit the politics.

I expect other red/Confederate states to be pressured by Trash to hide pandemic data

"Flooding the zone with shit" so NOBODY knows WTF is happening, nobody trusts anybody or anything, everything is "fake news", into which confusion and doubt rightwing politicians present themselves as the sole source of truth (political truthiness)




You are more right than many would like to admit.

The more they try to cover it up, the worse the stink when it comes out, and it will come out. You can't really do coverups of shit like that these days.

[RandomGuy]

A dramatization of derp's understanding of this graph over time.

https://i.gifer.com/TQFe.gif

ROFL. Eyup.

[Splits]

The information bubble created by the internet has made this condition much, much worse. You usually had a hope to "deprogram" a conspiracy theorist with rationality and such. Like if you met a flat earther in the 80s. You might ask, "okay, show me the evidence. A study. Something." They really wouldn't have anything to show you aside from opinion. Perhaps they'd reflect on this and eventually rejoin rational thinking.

Now they can just google or youtube "evidence" from conspiracy sites of their claims.

Explain "Jimmer" then. There can't possible a dedicated sub-reddit to fucking Jimmer, can there?

[tholdren]

Eyup. We are in absolute agreement on that point. The smart ones like Snakeboy know that, even if they aren't honest enough to admit that. The alarming strategy of trying to undercut Fauci at this point is a losing battle. They just aren't smart enough, or trusted enough to win that one. Scary that they think they have to.

"explain the spike" Republicans are going to take some hits from trying to be dishonest about it, I hope. It is plain to ME at least, but let's hope the case is made easy to the uninformed middle.

bwahahahahhahah its plain to a guy who can't understand ifr less than flu


LoloIololol

Wrong

[RandomGuy]

Explain "Jimmer" then. There can't possible a dedicated sub-reddit to fucking Jimmer, can there?

Rule 35:

If it exists, there is a sub-reddit for it.

[midnightpulp]

bwahahahahhahah its plain to a guy who can't understand ifr less than flu


LoloIololol

Wrong

Sh:lolw your math

[spurraider21]

Investigations revealed massive internal bleeding as a result of stomach rupture from eating too much brisket. Suicide was confirmed as the manner of death
mid, it's happening :wow

https://www.reddit.com/r/Charlottesville/comments/hx9c9t/not_sure_how_i_feel_about_this_what_do_you_think/

https://preview.redd.it/riv7fvlt6vc51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&26f9a521https://i.redd.it/riv7fvlt6vc51.jpg

[Blake]

mid, it's happening :wow

https://www.reddit.com/r/Charlottesville/comments/hx9c9t/not_sure_how_i_feel_about_this_what_do_you_think/

https://preview.redd.it/riv7fvlt6vc51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&26f9a521https://i.redd.it/riv7fvlt6vc51.jpg

But does it come with a biscuit

[tholdren]

Sh:lolw your math

Lolo you posting about covid after you didnt know how cases and deaths were recorded. That is sad.

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[midnightpulp]

mid, it's happening :wow

https://www.reddit.com/r/Charlottesville/comments/hx9c9t/not_sure_how_i_feel_about_this_what_do_you_think/

https://preview.redd.it/riv7fvlt6vc51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&26f9a521https://i.redd.it/riv7fvlt6vc51.jpg

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Sh:lolw your math


https://i.ibb.co/TmTY97Z/FB-IMG-1595067018410.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/2MqQL1L/FB-IMG-1595345505908.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5vGrJRf/FB-IMG-1595345559390.jpg

Let that sink in ma nig...

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

https://i.ibb.co/5vGrJRf/FB-IMG-1595345559390.jpg

[Blake]

"ARLINGTON, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) – Despite a bar shutdown order by Gov. Greg Abbott due to the COVID-19 pandemic, several North Texas bars plan to open on Saturday.

It’s part of an event called Freedom Fest and bar owners are willing to risk losing their liquor license to make a point.

The owners of G Willickers Pub in Arlington say they will open in defiance of Gov. Greg Abbott’s order.

They say the order is unfair and that cases of COVID-19 did not go down when bars were shut down again in June....

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/dfw-bars-liquor-license-defying-texas-shutdown-order-coronavirus-pandemic/


This should go well

[boutons_deux]

"ARLINGTON, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) – Despite a bar shutdown order by Gov. Greg Abbott due to the COVID-19 pandemic, several North Texas bars plan to open on Saturday.

It’s part of an event called Freedom Fest and bar owners are willing to risk losing their liquor license to make a point.

The owners of G Willickers Pub in Arlington say they will open in defiance of Gov. Greg Abbott’s order.

They say the order is unfair and that cases of COVID-19 did not go down when bars were shut down again in June....


https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/dfw-bars-liquor-license-defying-texas-shutdown-order-coronavirus-pandemic/ (https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/dfw-bars-liquor-license-defying-texas-shutdown-order-coronavirus-pandemic/)


This should go well

Abbott getting some free-enterprise, pro-business Freedumb pushed back in his face.

Will he stand for it, or take it sitting down?

And what about the 30? HOU bar owners who sued Abbott?

[Winehole23]

If we're going to bail out Wall Street to point of straight up buying corporate bonds and monetizing debt, why not bail out bars and restaurants -- the whole entertainment sector?

A bar bailout isn't a totally crazy idea in the context of 2020.

[Winehole23]

I dunno, is the future of drinking an Amazon package left at the front door?

[Blake]

"In a hopeful day in Texas’ battle to contain the novel coronavirus Saturday, new cases decreased from Friday’s number by more than 1,000 and the state’s rolling average of new cases dropped for the sixth straight day.

The statewide total went from 379,257 cases to 386,196, an increase of 6,939, according to a Houston Chronicle analysis. Friday’s increase, by comparison, was 7,995...."

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-coronavirus-numbers-showing-improvement-15434578.php

[tholdren]

Per cdc data

25 to 54 age demo make up 6 percent of covid. Risk of covid pneumonia death in that age is historically 6.3 percent

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

^ gossip

Copying

[TheGreatYacht]

https://i.ibb.co/KxYCNqr/FB-IMG-1595815052088.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/1MsQfsd/FB-IMG-1595815056209.jpg

Let that sink in Chumpettes...

[pgardn]

Your relatives need to be notified of your condition ^^^^^^

[pgardn]

...

[Blake]

conspiracy meme

What vaccine is Gates selling? Fauci?

[ElNono]

Copying

wrong

[tholdren]

What vaccine is Gates selling? Fauci?

Fauci must have already taken it. He was at the nationals game without a mask

[spurraider21]

Fauci must have already taken it. He was at the nationals game without a mask
Call your shot. Which company is the vaccine coming from. It’s not like Fauci has money in every pharma company on the planet

[tholdren]

Call your shot. Which company is the vaccine coming from. It’s not like Fauci has money in every pharma company on the planet

let's talk about him not wearing a mask first. I dont engage in speculation

[ChumpDumper]

let's talk about him not wearing a mask first. I dont engage in speculation:lol Of course you do.

[RandomGuy]

That isn't an explanation stupid motherfucker.

Rates like that do not vary greatly from averages without an explanation. That guiding principle is the foundation of statistics and a whole lot of finance, economics, and actuarial estimates are based on that.

There was no deviation until this disease started spreading in communities.

Explain the spike, stupid motherfucker. Maybe it is white millenials fleeing the Democratic party because you saw a stock photo. :rollin

https://i.imgur.com/bMOZpLw.png

Any day now... Snakeboy.

Got another months worth of data to add.

We just KNOW the spike is what?? A sudden rash of people slipping on rubber ducks?

Anything but COVID for the delusional.

[tholdren]

Any day now... Snakeboy.

Got another months worth of data to add.

We just KNOW the spike is what?? A sudden rash of people slipping on rubber ducks?

Anything but COVID for the delusional.

Still.trying to pretend all excess deaths covid. You are really bad at math and logic.

Keep hiding

[boutons_deux]

hilarioius the Trash fellators /anti-maskers have anecdotes about, eg motorcycle, deaths being counted as C19, implying widespread corruption in the health care providers.

while ignoring the volumes of data, going back months, showing excess deaths NOT attributed to C19, esp red states.

then there is asshole like FL gov who told coroners to leave the cause of death off certs

[tholdren]

hilarioius the Trash fellators /anti-maskers have anecdotes about deaths being counted as C19

while ignoring the volumes of data, going back months, showing excess deaths NOT attributed to C19, esp red states.

then there is asshole like FL gov who told coroners to leave the cause of death off certs

Lololol the volumes of data? You mean the same data that shows the risk to the working class is less than flu? Tell us more

[ChumpDumper]

Still.trying to pretend all excess deaths covid. You are really bad at math and logic.

Keep hidinglololololololollolollololololol motobriskets

[tholdren]

lololololololollolollololololol motobriskets

its interesting you quote me and then your response is just a random insult nothing to do with what you quoted. Why is your logic so poor?

[ChumpDumper]

its interestinglololololololololololol th:lolldren wants a conversation now.

Why are you always lying and wrong?

[tholdren]

lololololololololololol th:lolldren wants a conversation now.

Why are you always lying and wrong?

Chumpdump repeats himself lying again. Thread 2 of 2 meltdown for him

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump repeats himself lying again. Thread 2 of 2 meltdown for himI repeat my questions to you because you're afraid to answer them.

Why do you always lie?

[Blake]

"
COVID's true toll in Texas is higher than reported, data shows
By Zach Despart, Stephanie Lamm, and photos by Godofredo A. Vásquez | Aug. 13, 2020

Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in Texas, the state’s death toll from all causes has soared by thousands above historical averages — a sobering spike that experts say reveals the true toll of the disease.

Between the beginning of the local pandemic and the end of July, 95,000 deaths were reported in Texas, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control data. Based on historical mortality records and predictive modeling, government epidemiologists would have expected to see about 82,500 deaths during that time.

The CDC attributed more than 7,100 deaths to COVID-19, but that leaves roughly 5,500 more than expected and with no identified tie to the pandemic. The CDC’s chief of mortality, Dr. Bob Anderson, said these “excess deaths” are likely from a range of pandemic-related problems, including misclassifications because doctors did not initially understand the many ways that COVID-19 affects the circulatory system and results in a stroke or a heart attack.

“It can cause all sorts of havoc in the body,” he said.

The CDC data offers an opaque but important estimate of how deadly the virus has been in Texas, which suffered from testing shortages for weeks as COVID-19 case counts climbed.

“It has shocked me to see people think that there’s overcounts of the COVID deaths, because I can’t even imagine that that’d be the case,” said Mark Hayward, a professor at the University of Texas who studies mortality trends. “The undercount is so dramatic.”

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/covid-death-toll-houston-tx-texas-higher-data-15478269.php

[ChumpDumper]

"
COVID's true toll in Texas is higher than reported, data shows
By Zach Despart, Stephanie Lamm, and photos by Godofredo A. Vásquez | Aug. 13, 2020

Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in Texas, the state’s death toll from all causes has soared by thousands above historical averages — a sobering spike that experts say reveals the true toll of the disease.

Between the beginning of the local pandemic and the end of July, 95,000 deaths were reported in Texas, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control data. Based on historical mortality records and predictive modeling, government epidemiologists would have expected to see about 82,500 deaths during that time.

The CDC attributed more than 7,100 deaths to COVID-19, but that leaves roughly 5,500 more than expected and with no identified tie to the pandemic. The CDC’s chief of mortality, Dr. Bob Anderson, said these “excess deaths” are likely from a range of pandemic-related problems, including misclassifications because doctors did not initially understand the many ways that COVID-19 affects the circulatory system and results in a stroke or a heart attack.

“It can cause all sorts of havoc in the body,” he said.

The CDC data offers an opaque but important estimate of how deadly the virus has been in Texas, which suffered from testing shortages for weeks as COVID-19 case counts climbed.

“It has shocked me to see people think that there’s overcounts of the COVID deaths, because I can’t even imagine that that’d be the case,” said Mark Hayward, a professor at the University of Texas who studies mortality trends. “The undercount is so dramatic.”

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/covid-death-toll-houston-tx-texas-higher-data-15478269.phpEXCESS DEATHS ONLY COUNT FOR SOUTH KOREA

[Spurtacular]

https://i.ibb.co/KxYCNqr/FB-IMG-1595815052088.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/1MsQfsd/FB-IMG-1595815056209.jpg

Is it sinking in yet, Chumpettes?

[RandomGuy]

https://i.ibb.co/KxYCNqr/FB-IMG-1595815052088.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/1MsQfsd/FB-IMG-1595815056209.jpg

Is it sinking in yet, Chumpettes?

Do these people know that murder is wrong?

:lol Khadaffi is credible.

How have you not choked to death on your own spit yet? I boggles the mind.

[ChumpDumper]

https://i.ibb.co/KxYCNqr/FB-IMG-1595815052088.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/1MsQfsd/FB-IMG-1595815056209.jpg

Is it sinking in yet, Chumpettes?Yeah, you love Gaddafi.

[Spurtacular]

Do these people know that murder is wrong?

They won't lose any sleep if you die if that's what you're asking.

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/KxYCNqr/FB-IMG-1595815052088.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/1MsQfsd/FB-IMG-1595815056209.jpg

Is it sinking in yet, Chumpettes?

It sank in long ago how stupid you are

[RandomGuy]

They won't lose any sleep if you die if that's what you're asking.

Should right wingers who murder people go to jail?

[Spurtacular]

It sank in long ago how stupid you are

Cuck still thinks he has hand.

[RandomGuy]

"
COVID's true toll in Texas is higher than reported, data shows
By Zach Despart, Stephanie Lamm, and photos by Godofredo A. Vásquez | Aug. 13, 2020

Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in Texas, the state’s death toll from all causes has soared by thousands above historical averages — a sobering spike that experts say reveals the true toll of the disease.

Between the beginning of the local pandemic and the end of July, 95,000 deaths were reported in Texas, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control data. Based on historical mortality records and predictive modeling, government epidemiologists would have expected to see about 82,500 deaths during that time.

The CDC attributed more than 7,100 deaths to COVID-19, but that leaves roughly 5,500 more than expected and with no identified tie to the pandemic. The CDC’s chief of mortality, Dr. Bob Anderson, said these “excess deaths” are likely from a range of pandemic-related problems, including misclassifications because doctors did not initially understand the many ways that COVID-19 affects the circulatory system and results in a stroke or a heart attack.

“It can cause all sorts of havoc in the body,” he said.

The CDC data offers an opaque but important estimate of how deadly the virus has been in Texas, which suffered from testing shortages for weeks as COVID-19 case counts climbed.

“It has shocked me to see people think that there’s overcounts of the COVID deaths, because I can’t even imagine that that’d be the case,” said Mark Hayward, a professor at the University of Texas who studies mortality trends. “The undercount is so dramatic.”

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/covid-death-toll-houston-tx-texas-higher-data-15478269.php

SnakeBoy did all these people slip in the bathtub?

What is your explanation for the spike in deaths, since it obviously isn't the pandemic.

Do tell.

[RandomGuy]

Cuck

:lmao Cuck tourrettes. You couldn't stop banging that out on your keyboard if you tried. We all know you fap to it. It's creepy as shit, but I find it hilarious.

[Spurtacular]

Should right wingers who murder people go to jail?

Did someone hurt you?

[RandomGuy]

Did someone hurt you?

:lmao

Can't say murder if wrong... if people he agrees with do it. self pwnage.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Cuck tourrettes. You couldn't stop banging that out on your keyboard if you tried. We all know you fap to it. It's creepy as shit, but I find it hilarious.

You and Blake are certified cuckolds. Your standard lash out isn't changing that.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

Can't say murder if wrong... if people he agrees with do it. self pwnage.

If you can quote me saying murder is okay, go ahead.

[RandomGuy]

[sure I fap to cuck porn and fantasize about people on this board doing it all time].

Icky.

[ChumpDumper]

If you can quote me saying murder is okay, go ahead.Go ahead and say murder is bad.

Make yourself clear.

[Spurtacular]

Go ahead and say murder is bad.

Make yourself clear.

Murder is totally bad. Clarified enough for ya, snowflake?

[ChumpDumper]

Murder is totally bad. Clarified enough for ya, snowflake?Yes, it's clear you have to be bullied into saying the most basic things.:lol

[RandomGuy]

Murder is totally bad. Clarified enough for ya, snowflake?

Holy shit, took you long enough. Congrats.

[Spurtacular]

Yes, it's clear you have to be bullied into saying the most basic things.:lol


Holy shit, took you long enough. Congrats.

:lmao You betas are starving for W's.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao You betas are starving for W's.

It isn't our w, dipshit.

It is you avoiding an L from not being able to admit murder is wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao You betas are starving for W's.Nah, just seeing how difficult it would be for you.

Now you're crying about it, which is ever funnier.

Cry some more for us.

[Spurtacular]

Nah, just seeing how difficult it would be for you.

Now you're crying about it, which is ever funnier.

Cry some more for us.

:lmao Doubling down on your derpseration. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Doubling down on your derpseration. :lmao:lol stealing another term I coined for you.

Sad.

Any thoughts about the actual topic, or are you just gonna go on about your enemies?

[Spurtacular]

:lol stealing another term I coined for you.

Sad.

Any thoughts about the actual topic, or are you just gonna go on about your enemies?

A derivative of a term that your fellow chumpette plagiarized. Be proud, cherp.

[ChumpDumper]

A derivative of a term that your fellow chumpette plagiarized. Be proud, cherp.So you're just gonna go on about your enemies.

[Spurtacular]

So you're just gonna go on about your enemies.

You're not above it. :lol

[ElNono]

https://i.ibb.co/KxYCNqr/FB-IMG-1595815052088.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/1MsQfsd/FB-IMG-1595815056209.jpg

Is it sinking in yet, Chumpettes?

MOAR CONSPIRACIES!

[Blake]

Cuck still thinks he has hand.

Derp still using hand puppets

[CosmicCowboy]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.

[Blake]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.

Can we see these test results and the death certificate or do we just have to take your word on it

[Blake]

"Only deaths directly attributed to the COVID-19 virus are counted. This method does not include deaths of people who had COVID-19 but died of an unrelated cause, health officials said..."

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2020/07/29/texas-passes-grim-milestone-of-6100-covid-19-deaths/

[ChumpDumper]

.

[spurraider21]

did the hospital at least pay them a few g's for letting them write covid?

[RandomGuy]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.

I will try to exercise a bit of patience and respect here, in a good faith effort to help you. I will stop if you can't be honest.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gv63JaIhkLg/SXqX6HPEynI/AAAAAAAAAMo/d2qoEkfuMv4/s400/olive+branch.jpg

Fair questions:

So what? Why is this relevant?

[Will Hunting]

did the hospital at least pay them a few g's for letting them write covid?
Soros did.

[tholdren]

I will try to exercise a bit of patience and respect here, in a good faith effort to help you. I will stop if you can't be honest.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gv63JaIhkLg/SXqX6HPEynI/AAAAAAAAAMo/d2qoEkfuMv4/s400/olive+branch.jpg

Fair questions:

So what? Why is this relevant?

because you want to believe that all excess or deaths are based on covid

Its okay to be scared.

[DarrinS]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.

RG

https://media1.tenor.com/images/22bf61c0a7b595bb7a3ada68ef1cfd14/tenor.gif

[Trill Clinton]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.
:lol

[RandomGuy]

RG

https://media1.tenor.com/images/22bf61c0a7b595bb7a3ada68ef1cfd14/tenor.gif

So, I tried to be patient. I tried to help you improve your reasoning, and correct an error.

It seems you aren't interested in that, merely elementary school level taunts.

Sokay.

What is funny is that anecdote doesn't even say what your dumb ass think it does, but I am done explaining things to you. You are neither intelligent enough, or emotionally mature enough to bother.

Dunning-kruger poster child. smh

[RandomGuy]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.

Still waiting. Why do you think this is relevant?

What does it mean?

[tholdren]

We have provided an explanation. Unreported, and unconfirmed COVID cases. No conspiracy required. No one is faking any evidence, they are simply not affirming something they don't know to be true.

Now, provide an alternative explanation that you think is more plausible, stupid motherfucker.

bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahaghshahsh


How low


Loloookkoklooll

[boutons_deux]

Analysis: It’s hard to make good pandemic policy if the Texas data is fuzzy

The state's public health experts are changing their calculation of one of the governor's go-to measures of the spread of coronavirus. It's an improvement, but the new version has some bugs of its own.

By the state’s own standards, the Texas calculation of the “positivity rate” tests negative.

More than six months into the coronavirus pandemic, the state is changing the way it accounts for the spread of infections (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/09/14/texas-coronavirus-positivity-rate/).

From now on,

the rate will reflect the date a test was done,

instead of the date the test results was reported to health authorities —

a date that sometimes falls weeks or months after a test is administered.

The new operation will be more accurate, eventually.

Daily rates will be recalculated as new results for a given date are reported.

And the change amounts to an admission that the system up to now has been flawed by the vagaries of how and when results are reported (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/27/coronavirus-texas-backlog-schools-experts/) to authorities.

That flaw remains, but the new accounting will at least put positive test results on the right dates — no matter how slowly they’re reported.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/09/16/texas-coronavirus-data/

[RandomGuy]

I went to high school with a guy that recently died. He got pneumonia and was tested seven times for covid while in the hospital and they all came back negative. The pneumonia stress basically caused a heart attack and he died. His death certificate just came back covid/pneumonia.

Still waiting.

So what?

[Bogie]

Still waiting.

So what?

He can’t answer you right now. he’s busy trying to figure out a way to impress everyone with how much money he supposedly has.

plus don’t you know, anecdotal evidence trumps any and all data.

[tholdren]

look at all the different ways to justify covid dangers.

1. Modeling. Proven way off.
2. Ifr proven less deadly for most demographics
3. Case count. Proven to not lead to death
4. Hospirals over capacity. None anywhere
5. Masks. Lol not proven to do anything
6. Positivity rate. Lololol
7. Testing. Have to test healthy people to find virus


Just doesn't get much dumber tbh

[RandomGuy]

He can’t answer you right now. he’s busy trying to figure out a way to impress everyone with how much money he supposedly has.

plus don’t you know, anecdotal evidence trumps any and all data.

That particular failing seems to be the achilles heel of conservative "reasoning". "my anecdote disproves your mountain of data".

smh.

[RandomGuy]

look at all the different ways to justify covid dangers.

1. Modeling. Proven way off.
2. Ifr proven less deadly for most demographics
3. Case count. Proven to not lead to death
4. Hospirals over capacity. None anywhere
5. Masks. Lol not proven to do anything
6. Positivity rate. Lololol
7. Testing. Have to test healthy people to find virus


Just doesn't get much dumber tbh


Getting paid by insurance equal hospital payday. Corona style


can't fake the deaths, moron.

Explain the spike.




Excess deaths under baseline average for August.



:lmao

They aren't. Here is the link:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Your dumb ass is looking at the last, most recent WEEKLY entry. :rollin :rollin :rollin

Total for august, excluding week ending august 1:
51695
51652
51713
51754
==============
206814 [baseline average]

Excess threshold for same period:
53650
53599
53624
53823
================
214696

Actual count, even including the incomplete last week:
59873
59873
55700
46079
==========
221,525 [actual to date count for period, incomplete data]

Wow me with your math skills. What is 221525-214696? 221525-206814?


or keep fingerpainting with your own shit in the corner. Your call.

Well lookie here, they updated the last week in August with more complete data.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

It went from 46079 when your dumb ass posted your original fuck up...

to 54725. This puts even that one week over not only the expected, but over their threshold for reporting it as actual excess.

Not only that, they added more data to the OTHER incomplete weeks.

63159
61264
58626
54725
===============
237,774 [updated count for period, incomplete data]

So now we have deaths from all causes 15% higher, even with incomplete data, meaning final tally will have a total that MUST exceed even that.

What else happened to cause all these deaths, geenyus?

Death rates never shoot up 20% for sustained periods without a cause. Do tell.

[tholdren]

Well lookie here, they updated the last week in August with more complete data.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

It went from 46079 when your dumb ass posted your original fuck up...

to 54725. This puts even that one week over not only the expected, but over their threshold for reporting it as actual excess.

Not only that, they added more data to the OTHER incomplete weeks.

63159
61264
58626
54725
===============
237,774 [updated count for period, incomplete data]

So now we have deaths from all causes 15% higher, even with incomplete data, meaning final tally will have a total that MUST exceed even that.

What else happened to cause all these deaths, geenyus?

Death rates never shoot up 20% for sustained periods without a cause. Do tell.

Llllllollokloollollolklloklllklllopllpollllloooool lllllooooolllllllllll

WrongdomGuy doesn't understand excess deaths covid deaths or all cause.

Lolololololoollo


This post is hilarious

[tholdren]

Llllllollokloollollolklloklllklllopllpollllloooool lllllooooolllllllllll

WrongdomGuy doesn't understand excess deaths covid deaths or all cause.

Lolololololoollo


This post is hilarious

2 more weeks until nothing happens

[RandomGuy]

Llllllollokloollollolklloklllklllopllpollllloooool lllllooooolllllllllll

Lolololololoollo



I am super-impressed at your ability to repeatedly bang on two keys.

(slow-clap)

[tholdren]

Llllllollokloollollolklloklllklllopllpollllloooool lllllooooolllllllllll

WrongdomGuy doesn't understand excess deaths covid deaths or all cause.

Lolololololoollo


This post is hilarious

lololl RandomGuy wrongdomGuy

Loloooloop

Pgardn baselinebum TimDunkem level of math.

Lollooool

They all cannot identify how many actially are cases deaths positives loloo

Just gossiping

[tholdren]

lololl RandomGuy wrongdomGuy

Loloooloop

Pgardn baselinebum TimDunkem level of math.

Lollooool

They all cannot identify how many actially are cases deaths positives loloo

Just gossiping

[ElNono]

:lol more self-chat meltdowns... oh my

[tholdren]

lololl RandomGuy wrongdomGuy

Loloooloop

Pgardn baselinebum TimDunkem level of math.

Lollooool

They all cannot identify how many actially are cases deaths positives loloo

Just gossiping

[tholdren]

nothing happening

[tholdren]

A highly contagious virus with millions of deaths without any treatment?

Mortality turned out to be many times lower than expected and close to that of a normal seasonal flu (0.2%). 20
The number of registered corona deaths therefore still seems to be overestimated.
There is a difference between death by corona and death with corona. Humans are often carriers of multiple viruses and potentially pathogenic bacteria at the same time. Taking into account the fact that most people who developed serious symptoms suffered from additional pathology, one cannot simply conclude that the corona-infection was the cause of death. This was mostly not taken into account in the statistics.

The most vulnerable groups can be clearly identified. The vast majority of deceased patients were 80 years of age or older. The majority (70%) of the deceased, younger than 70 years, had an underlying disorder, such as cardiovascular suffering, diabetes mellitus, chronic lung disease or obesity. The vast majority of infected persons (>98%) did not or hardly became ill or recovered spontaneously.

Meanwhile, there is an affordable, safe and efficient therapy available for those who do show severe symptoms of disease in the form of HCQ (hydroxychloroquine), zinc and AZT (azithromycin). Rapidly applied this therapy leads to recovery and often prevents hospitalisation. Hardly anyone has to die now.

This effective therapy has been confirmed by the clinical experience of colleagues in the field with impressive results. This contrasts sharply with the theoretical criticism (insufficient substantiation by double-blind studies) which in some countries (e.g. the Netherlands) has even led to a ban on this therapy. A meta-analysis in The Lancet, which could not demonstrate an effect of HCQ, was withdrawn. The primary data sources used proved to be unreliable and 2 out of 3 authors were in conflict of interest. However, most of the guidelines based on this study remained unchanged … 48 49
We have serious questions about this state of affairs.
In the US, a group of doctors in the field, who see patients on a daily basis, united in “America’s Frontline Doctors” and gave a press conference which has been watched millions of times.21 51
French Prof Didier Raoult of the Institut d’Infectiologie de Marseille (IHU) also presented this promising combination therapy as early as April. Dutch GP Rob Elens, who cured many patients in his practice with HCQ and zinc, called on colleagues in a petition for freedom of therapy.22
The definitive evidence comes from the epidemiological follow-up in Switzerland: mortality rates compared with and without this therapy.23

From the distressing media images of ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome) where people were suffocating and given artificial respiration in agony, we now know that this was caused by an exaggerated immune response with intravascular coagulation in the pulmonary blood vessels. The administration of blood thinners and dexamethasone and the avoidance of artificial ventilation, which was found to cause additional damage to lung tissue, means that this dreaded complication, too, is virtually not fatal anymore. 47

It is therefore not a killer virus, but a well-treatable condition.

Propagation

Spreading occurs by drip infection (only for patients who cough or sneeze) and aerosols in closed, unventilated rooms. Contamination is therefore not possible in the open air. Contact tracing and epidemiological studies show that healthy people (or positively tested asymptomatic carriers) are virtually unable to transmit the virus. Healthy people therefore do not put each other at risk. 24 25
Transfer via objects (e.g. money, shopping or shopping trolleys) has not been scientifically proven.26 27 28

All this seriously calls into question the whole policy of social distancing and compulsory mouth masks for healthy people – there is no scientific basis for this

[ElNono]

^ more gossip from bunker bitch

[Winehole23]

^ more gossip from bunker bitchWorse, it's rewarmed gossip from months ago. Dadier Roualt.

[tholdren]

^ more gossip from bunker bitch

El wrongwrong

Triggered

[tholdren]

A highly contagious virus with millions of deaths without any treatment?

Mortality turned out to be many times lower than expected and close to that of a normal seasonal flu (0.2%). 20
The number of registered corona deaths therefore still seems to be overestimated.
There is a difference between death by corona and death with corona. Humans are often carriers of multiple viruses and potentially pathogenic bacteria at the same time. Taking into account the fact that most people who developed serious symptoms suffered from additional pathology, one cannot simply conclude that the corona-infection was the cause of death. This was mostly not taken into account in the statistics.

The most vulnerable groups can be clearly identified. The vast majority of deceased patients were 80 years of age or older. The majority (70%) of the deceased, younger than 70 years, had an underlying disorder, such as cardiovascular suffering, diabetes mellitus, chronic lung disease or obesity. The vast majority of infected persons (>98%) did not or hardly became ill or recovered spontaneously.

Meanwhile, there is an affordable, safe and efficient therapy available for those who do show severe symptoms of disease in the form of HCQ (hydroxychloroquine), zinc and AZT (azithromycin). Rapidly applied this therapy leads to recovery and often prevents hospitalisation. Hardly anyone has to die now.

This effective therapy has been confirmed by the clinical experience of colleagues in the field with impressive results. This contrasts sharply with the theoretical criticism (insufficient substantiation by double-blind studies) which in some countries (e.g. the Netherlands) has even led to a ban on this therapy. A meta-analysis in The Lancet, which could not demonstrate an effect of HCQ, was withdrawn. The primary data sources used proved to be unreliable and 2 out of 3 authors were in conflict of interest. However, most of the guidelines based on this study remained unchanged … 48 49
We have serious questions about this state of affairs.
In the US, a group of doctors in the field, who see patients on a daily basis, united in “America’s Frontline Doctors” and gave a press conference which has been watched millions of times.21 51
French Prof Didier Raoult of the Institut d’Infectiologie de Marseille (IHU) also presented this promising combination therapy as early as April. Dutch GP Rob Elens, who cured many patients in his practice with HCQ and zinc, called on colleagues in a petition for freedom of therapy.22
The definitive evidence comes from the epidemiological follow-up in Switzerland: mortality rates compared with and without this therapy.23

From the distressing media images of ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome) where people were suffocating and given artificial respiration in agony, we now know that this was caused by an exaggerated immune response with intravascular coagulation in the pulmonary blood vessels. The administration of blood thinners and dexamethasone and the avoidance of artificial ventilation, which was found to cause additional damage to lung tissue, means that this dreaded complication, too, is virtually not fatal anymore. 47

It is therefore not a killer virus, but a well-treatable condition.

Propagation

Spreading occurs by drip infection (only for patients who cough or sneeze) and aerosols in closed, unventilated rooms. Contamination is therefore not possible in the open air. Contact tracing and epidemiological studies show that healthy people (or positively tested asymptomatic carriers) are virtually unable to transmit the virus. Healthy people therefore do not put each other at risk. 24 25
Transfer via objects (e.g. money, shopping or shopping trolleys) has not been scientifically proven.26 27 28

All this seriously calls into question the whole policy of social distancing and compulsory mouth masks for healthy people – there is no scientific basis for this

[ElNono]

Worse, it's rewarmed gossip from months ago. Dadier Roualt.

You hate to see it

[tholdren]

you forget ifr lower than the flu

This aged well.

[baseline bum]

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[tholdren]

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Baseline bum just cried himself to sleep


Ifr less than flu


Proceed

[baseline bum]

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[tholdren]

Baseline bum just cried himself to sleep


Ifr less than flu


Proceed

[tholdren]

Deaths months old being reported as new... lolololol

[Ef-man]

Foldren patents folding formula but cannot reap financial benefits as secret formula is written on paper that cannot be unfolded.

Product of his own success, hate to see it.

[tholdren]

Deaths months old being reported as new... lolololol

[Ef-man]

Foldren folds again.

[tholdren]

Deaths months old being reported as new... lolololol

Wear masks
Lololol

[tholdren]

Wear masks
Lololol

[Ef-man]

Foldren’s laundry service motto, always folding with a smile.

[tholdren]

Wear masks
Lololol

[midnightpulp]

I was away from a couple months and tholdren still hasn't shown his math :lol

[ElNono]

I was away from a couple months and tholdren still hasn't shown his math :lol

We're keeping track of his folds too, up to 3000+ by now, tbh

[tholdren]

Wear masks
Lololol

Lololollooll

And midnightpulp back lolokiloikkioo


He said Texas was out of hospitals and ifr was 20 times flu.

Lollooooooolooko


WrongdomGuy style

[tholdren]

nothing happening

[tholdren]

Lololollooll

And midnightpulp back lolokiloikkioo


He said Texas was out of hospitals and ifr was 20 times flu.

Lollooooooolooko


WrongdomGuy style

[tholdren]

Chumpdump scared of covid

[tholdren]

Chumpdump scared of covid

[tholdren]

Chumpdump scared of covid

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heh

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WrongdomGuy triggered. How low iq. Put on ignore then respond to that person. Lklooololloolll

What a scared guy

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:rollin

[tholdren]

WrongdomGuy triggered. How low iq. Put on ignore then respond to that person. Lklooololloolll

What a scared guy

[Ef-man]

And foldren in for the fold.

[tholdren]

And foldren in for the fold.

Elf man doesn't understand statistics

[Ef-man]

Foldren understands heavy starch and folding.

[tholdren]

Elf man with ChumpDumper deflection

[RandomGuy]

And foldren in for the fold.

Dude, I'm not even seeing his posts. he keeps responding like I care. It's hilarious.

[Ef-man]

Dude, I'm not even seeing his posts. he keeps responding like I care. It's hilarious.

I just reply without looking at his posts as he is Mr. Origami.

[TimDunkem]

Ahh, the rare 6 post meltdown. Impressive.

[tholdren]

Dude, I'm not even seeing his posts. he keeps responding like I care. It's hilarious.

Lololoolloo

WrongdomGuy reporting because

HE DOESNT CARE

Lolollolookllkkkkkllooolkkl

[tholdren]

Lololoolloo

WrongdomGuy reporting because

HE DOESNT CARE

Lolollolookllkkkkkllooolkkl

[Ef-man]

And in other news, foldren remains in a permanent fold.

Plus, condolences to him as his family will soon get very sick, leaving him homeless.

[tholdren]

you forget ifr lower than the flu

Months later. No one forgot. Still lower than flu.

[baseline bum]

foldren, get a life please. I don't care about reading your lies.

[Winehole23]

it's just a little flu, bro



Full disclosure: I am a gay conservative, someone that often juggles persecution for my sexuality while being true to my values. Such a combination requires a lot of tenacity to earn respect from either group.

I admit I voted for Donald Trump in 2016. I admit traveling deep into the conspiracy trap over COVID-19. All the defiant behavior of Trump’s more radical and rowdy cult followers, I participated in it. I was a hard-ass that stood up for my “God-given rights.”

https://dallasvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Pandemic2.jpg

In great haste, I began prognosticating the alphabet soup about this “scamdemic.” I believed the virus to be a hoax. I believed the mainstream media and the Democrats were using it to create panic, crash the economy and destroy Trump’s chances at re-election.

And so, believing the pandemic to be a hoax, my partner and I hosted family members on Saturday, June 13. On Sunday, June 14, I woke up sick.

By Monday, June 15, my partner and my parents were all sick. That same Monday, my in-laws traveled to witness the birth of their first grandchild. They took with them my father-in-law’s mother and one of my partner’s sisters. That night my father-in-law became ill. Then my mother-in-law and their daughter began feeling sick. So they cut their trip short.

Two days later, my father-in-law’s mother got sick. The new mommy and daddy got sick, too. We all tested positive for COVID-19. Only the newborn was spared.

My father-in-law and I both went to the hospital on June 24. The virus had attacked my central nervous system, and the staff stopped me from having a stroke.

My father-in-law’s mother was admitted a day later. On July 1, she died of COVID-19/pneumonia. The chaplain wanted the family to break the news to my father-in-law, and he learned how his mother lay on her deathbed and then drifted off without any family by her side, even though he was in the room next to hers.

On the day of her funeral, which was July 14, five more of our family members tested positive for the virus. That evening, my father-in-law was put on a ventilator.
https://dallasvoice.com/a-harsh-lesson-in-the-reality-of-covid-19/

[TimDunkem]

it's just a little flu, bro


https://dallasvoice.com/a-harsh-lesson-in-the-reality-of-covid-19/
Sick the day after the party? Dude was spreading this shit everywhere just like Trump was. Very possible he's the one who killed his in-laws. You hate to see it.

[tholdren]

foldren, get a life please. I don't care about reading your lies.

Yes you do. You responded. And you were wrong. Big time wrong


Ifr less than flu

You bad at math.

Hide

[Ef-man]

Soon to join ranks of homeless, foldren folds.

[tholdren]

Yes you do. You responded. And you were wrong. Big time wrong


Ifr less than flu

You bad at math.

Hide

[baseline bum]

foldren, get a life please. I still don't care to read your lies.

[tholdren]

foldren, get a life please. I still don't care to read your lies.


You do care. You keep responding. Yet you keep saying covid is more dangerous than the flu to all persons. Why are you lying?

[baseline bum]

still not reading foldrens lies

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[ElNono]

still not reading foldrens lies

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You're not missing anything, tbh... typical boomer loser melting down on being always wrong.

[baseline bum]

You're not missing anything, tbh... typical boomer loser melting down on being always wrong.

I tried to read foldren for a couple of weeks and it was lie after lie after lie, so back to the ignore list. LOL this faggot always responding to me though.

[Spurminator]

I've seen maybe four foldren posts. Prolific garbage.

[ElNono]

I tried to read foldren for a couple of weeks and it was lie after lie after lie, so back to the ignore list. LOL this faggot always responding to me though.

:lol He's been in complete meltdown for a few months now. Basically his options are delete his account and start over or consider the viability of suicide, tbh...

Like I said, you're not missing anything. Pure noise at this point.

[tholdren]

You do care. You keep responding. Yet you keep saying covid is more dangerous than the flu to all persons. Why are you lying?

[tholdren]

You do care. You keep responding. Yet you keep saying covid is more dangerous than the flu to all persons. Why are you lying?

[tholdren]

Wrong

[pgardn]

:lol He's been in complete meltdown for a few months now. Basically his options are delete his account and start over or consider the viability of suicide, tbh...

Like I said, you're not missing anything. Pure noise at this point.

[tholdren]

You do care. You keep responding. Yet you keep saying covid is more dangerous than the flu to all persons. Why are you lying?

[pgardn]

:lol He's been in complete meltdown for a few months now. Basically his options are delete his account and start over or consider the viability of suicide, tbh...

Like I said, you're not missing anything. Pure noise at this point.

[tholdren]

Pgardn trigger D

[pgardn]

:lol He's been in complete meltdown for a few months now. Basically his options are delete his account and start over or consider the viability of suicide, tbh...

Like I said, you're not missing anything. Pure noise at this point.

[tholdren]

Pgardn trigger D

I win
Covid ifr less flu i win

[pgardn]

:lol He's been in complete meltdown for a few months now. Basically his options are delete his account and start over or consider the viability of suicide, tbh...

Like I said, you are not missing anything. Pure noise at this point.

[tholdren]

I win
Covid ifr less flu i win

How them hospitals?

[pgardn]

:lol He's been in complete meltdown for a few months now. Basically his options are delete his account and start over or consider the viability of suicide, tbh...

Like I said, you're not missing anything. Pure noise at this point.

[tholdren]

How them hospitals?

[ElNono]

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/content/uploads/sites/2/2017/02/08/yb7p8egvrolayykgfceo.gif

[tholdren]

How them hospitals?

[tholdren]

Nothing

[tholdren]

Nothing
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

[tholdren]

Yes you do. You responded. And you were wrong. Big time wrong


Ifr less than flu

You bad at math.

Hide

[tholdren]

Cases real numbers!!!! 9 more months !!!!

[tholdren]

Cases real numbers!!!! 9 more months !!!!

Daily Reported cases and deaths happened today!

[tholdren]

Daily Reported cases and deaths happened today!

[tholdren]

That isn't an explanation of the unusual spike, stupid motherfucker.

You can do so much better than this stupid handwavy-dismissal. Yet you don't.

Propose an alternate hypothesis and support it with some evidence, or prove you are, indeed, a stupid motherfucker.

LololooloooooooooIoIioloooooooooollooo how low

[tholdren]

LololooloooooooooIoIioloooooooooollooo how low

[tholdren]

Cases real numbers!!!! 9 more months !!!!

[midnightpulp]

:lol still hasn't shown his math.

[tholdren]

:lol still hasn't shown his math.

Bwshhahaahzzhz


You back? 2 more weeks!!!

[tholdren]

Bwshhahaahzzhz


You back? 2 more weeks!!!

[tholdren]

Bwshhahaahzzhz


You back? 2 more weeks!!!

Dem cases bruh

[tholdren]

Dem cases bruh

2 moar weekz

[tholdren]

Cases real numbers!!!! 9 more months !!!!

[tholdren]

Translation:

"Your data is not as good as my anecdotes".

Explain the spike.

https://i.imgur.com/bMOZpLw.png

Originally Posted by TimDunkem

Started getting a fever today in addition to the coughing and loss of taste. I called a few places to see if I can get tested. Most said stay home, and others said I need to be referred by a doctor to get one. My job wants me to come in anyway. FML

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WrongdomGuy said all hospitals would be overwhelmed and bodies would be lining the streets. And here he is talking about ignoring people.


His math so low. Crazy he believes he knows stats. Loloolllkllolllkkl

Just another typical scared person

[RandomGuy]

:lol still hasn't shown his math.

oooh.

I can do that.


Observed number of unweighted deaths, United States, for 2020 period (weeks ended 1-4 through 10-17):
2,491,625

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst

Sort data top level:
"type"
sort data second level:
"state"

Take total of column C (observed) for data subset: unweighted type (column N), state (column B) "United States".

Add in OBNR factor of 20% for the last six weeks, (61k deaths occurred but not reported) for the same period, and you get:
2,553,383

Assume that previous 41 week average holds, including 6 week OBNR factor: (62277 average)

3,238,437 deaths for all weeks.

Five days in that total are for days outside of 2020 period. Apply discount of 5/371>>>> 1-(5/371)

3,194,792


3.2-
2.8
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400k

400/2800 = 14.3% spike in total deaths from all causes. Given the pandemic didn't really kick in until a few months in, that is pretty bad. COVID will end up being the 3rd leading cause of death this year.

[RandomGuy]

I tried to read foldren for a couple of weeks and it was lie after lie after lie, so back to the ignore list. LOL this faggot always responding to me though.

The pathetic begging for attention... jeesus.

It is just sad.

[tholdren]

The pathetic begging for attention... jeesus.

It is just sad.

You're responding. So I win. Just like I always do when you attempt to use math.


Lol

Hospitals...
Schools..

You said there would be mass death of all ages and fl ga tx az sd would all be out of hospitals .


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You're responding. So I win. Just like I always do when you attempt to use math.


Lol

Hospitals...
Schools..

You said there would be mass death of all ages and fl ga tx az sd would all be out of hospitals .


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[tholdren]

You're responding. So I win. Just like I always do when you attempt to use math.


Lol

Hospitals...
Schools..

You said there would be mass death of all ages and fl ga tx az sd would all be out of hospitals .


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Won