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hater
07-14-2020, 09:45 AM
:wow

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Americans have gone from having access to most of the world to being banned from most of it. Today, Americans are only allowed in a few Caribbean islands and the Balkans. An American passport is now worthless. Worse than worthless, it’s a plague.

In the absence of a humane government, America is now ruled by COVID-19. Welcome to the Plague States of America.

hater
07-14-2020, 09:52 AM
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hater
07-14-2020, 09:55 AM
Bye bye international students (and their $$$$)

The enrollment of new international students at U.S. universities in the Fall 2020-21 academic year is projected to decline 63% to 98% from the 2018-19 level, with between 6,000 to 12,000 new international students at the low range, and 87,000 to 100,000 at the high range, according to a National Foundation for American Policy analysis. The decline of as many as 263,000 students from the 2018-19 academic year total of approximately 269,000 new international students would be the lowest level of new international students since after World War II when the numbers started to be tracked. The 12,000 level represents new international students if only new students from Mexico and Canada enrolled. Given uncertainties surrounding even Mexican and Canadian students, the most pessimistic forecast would put the number of new enrolled international students at only half the 12,000 level. The enrollment of new international students was approximately 7,800 in 1948-49, the first year on record.

Spurtacular
07-14-2020, 10:01 AM
:cry It's not a hoax :cry

hater
07-14-2020, 10:04 AM
:cry It's not a hoax :cry

Tell that to the immigration officer in the next country you visit nig :lmao

FrostKing
07-14-2020, 11:52 AM
Who is reckless enough to travel right now?

clambake
07-14-2020, 11:56 AM
Who is reckless enough to travel right now?

Why is that, what do you mean?

koriwhat
07-14-2020, 01:52 PM
Lol fuck the rest of the world! They need us more than we need any of them.

Bill_Brasky
07-14-2020, 01:59 PM
No they don't you fucking retard

Why is it that the people who live in the shittiest parts of this country are always the ones bleating the loudest about how great it is?

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 02:02 PM
:cry It's not a hoax :cry

When the US collapeses, they wanna keep us trapped here. They are setting the stage for the mandatory vaccine or immunity passport. They wanna keep us here when the Communist/Bolshevik revolution begins.

Spurtacular
07-14-2020, 02:05 PM
Lol fuck the rest of the world! They need us more than we need any of them.

It's not about nation vs. nation. You should get out of that paradigm.

koriwhat
07-14-2020, 02:10 PM
It's not about nation vs. nation. You should get out of that paradigm.

I'm not saying that... frankly i could not give a fuck about those on the other side of the pond. As for our side of the globe we should all work together and the other side should just go fuck themselves for all I care.

koriwhat
07-14-2020, 02:13 PM
No they don't you fucking retard

Why is it that the people who live in the shittiest parts of this country are always the ones bleating the loudest about how great it is?

Maybe because they know real struggle and seeing examples of those who pull themselves out of the gutters reminds them of how the American dream is still alive and vibrant.

Spurtacular
07-14-2020, 02:16 PM
I'm not saying that... frankly i could not give a fuck about those on the other side of the pond. As for our side of the globe we should all work together and the other side should just go fuck themselves for all I care.

I can respect isolationism as a concept. But I'm just saying that the elites who have their tentacles into us also have them into other countries as well. The everyday person of other nations is not our enemy.

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 02:17 PM
Lol fuck the rest of the world! They need us more than we need any of them.


It's not about nation vs. nation. You should get out of that paradigm.

It's about achieving international communism or one world government. Whichever nation refuses to participate in Jew World Order...well just look at what happened to Hitler and the Nazis. Them Zionists and Jewish supremacists control nations. Every host nation them parasites reside in, rest assured that they have dual loyalty to Israel. They put Israel's interest first over the host nation. They want Jerusalem to be the capital of the world. The rest of us Goyim (not koriwhat) will be their slaves. The dissenters will be slaughtered like what the Bolsheviks (Jews) did to the Christian Russians.

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 02:19 PM
I can respect isolationism as a concept. But I'm just saying that the elites who have their tentacles into us also have them into other countries as well. The everyday person of other nations is not our enemy.

You get it ma nig :tu

Don't be afraid to be more specific in naming the elites - Zionists, Jewish supremacists, Satanists, globalists, cabal, etc..

hater
07-14-2020, 02:29 PM
Lol fuck the rest of the world! They need us more than we need any of them.

Typical american retard spewing nonsense smh

hater
07-14-2020, 02:30 PM
When the US collapeses, they wanna keep us trapped here. They are setting the stage for the mandatory vaccine or immunity passport. They wanna keep us here when the Communist/Bolshevik revolution begins.

:lmao

hater
07-14-2020, 02:32 PM
It's about achieving international communism or one world government. Whichever nation refuses to participate in Jew World Order...well just look at what happened to Hitler and the Nazis. Them Zionists and Jewish supremacists control nations. Every host nation them parasites reside in, rest assured that they have dual loyalty to Israel. They put Israel's interest first over the host nation. They want Jerusalem to be the capital of the world. The rest of us Goyim (not koriwhat) will be their slaves. The dissenters will be slaughtered like what the Bolsheviks (Jews) did to the Christian Russians.

:lmao even if your theory is slightly plausible (which is not)

That type of revolution would need a leader or group of leaders.

Who are the Bolchevic leaders of the incoming communist world revolution ma nig?

:lol

in2deep
07-14-2020, 02:36 PM
:lmao even if your theory is slightly plausible (which is not)

That type of revolution would need a leader or group of leaders.

Who are the Bolchevic leaders of the incoming communist world revolution ma nig?

:lol

Dont you know anything??

Its obviously the cabal composed of Macron, Merkel, the Pope and the Reggaeton trolls

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 02:36 PM
:lmao even if your theory is slightly plausible (which is not)

That type of revolution would need a leader or group of leaders.

Who are the Bolchevic leaders of the incoming communist world revolution ma nig?

:lol

The Zionists and Jewish supremacists who control our government. It's more of a civil war rather than a communist revolution but you get the idea. They want America in flames.

hater
07-14-2020, 02:40 PM
The Zionists and Jewish supremacists who control our government. It's more of a civil war rather than a communist revolution but you get the idea. They want America in flames.

Sure

But 2 things:
1) zionists are anti communism for obvious reasons
2) when the revolution happens they will need real faces/bodies to take charge of the communist regions of the world. Where are those leaders?

hater
07-14-2020, 02:40 PM
Dont you know anything??

Its obviously the cabal composed of Macron, Merkel, the Pope and the Reggaeton trolls

:lol

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 02:57 PM
Sure

But 2 things:
1) zionists are anti communism for obvious reasons
2) when the revolution happens they will need real faces/bodies to take charge of the communist regions of the world. Where are those leaders?

Lol no. Zionists and communists are one and the same. They just changed names. Both want the same goals. John McCain and Lindsey Graham are communists disguised as Republicans.

hater
07-14-2020, 02:58 PM
Lol no. Zionists and communists are one and the same.

:lmao you dont know what a communist is ma nig



They just changed names. Both want the same goals. John McCain and Lindsey Graham are communists disguised as Republicans.

:lmao

You are probably thinking of another term. Its not communist :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 03:10 PM
:lmao you dont know what a communist is ma nig



:lmao

You are probably thinking of another term. Its not communist :lol

Neocons. Same thing. I bet ya koriwhat and DarrinS are big fans of those two - John McCain and Lindsey Graham

Splits
07-14-2020, 03:45 PM
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Cook the books, problem solved!

ElNono
07-14-2020, 07:34 PM
Might need to re-new my italian passport, tbh... only way to access Europe these days, it seems...

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2020, 07:44 PM
1283123475348164608

Cook the books, problem solved!

I wonder if this will scare all the Chumpettes who have TDS from getting tested. Trump playing 3D chess Spurtacular?

ElNono
07-14-2020, 08:09 PM
1283123475348164608

Cook the books, problem solved!

Yeah, not unexpected either. There's no bottom when it comes to this stuff with this administration.

4 months to go, hopefully...

baseline bum
07-14-2020, 08:12 PM
1283123475348164608

Cook the books, problem solved!

Bunker Bitch censoring the CDC again. Too bad the White House didn't get burned down during the riots.

Spurtacular
07-14-2020, 08:13 PM
I wonder if this will scare all the Chumpettes who have TDS from getting tested. Trump playing 3D chess Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)?

This could potentially cut into their fear porn consumption. They'll have to watch more whine porn. Not as hardcore. :lol

DMC
07-14-2020, 08:16 PM
The walls being built aren't to keep Americans in, just FYI.

DMX7
07-14-2020, 08:19 PM
:wow

https://miro.medium.com/max/1826/1*urKc19kU45DL3iHl93l3bQ.gif

Americans have gone from having access to most of the world to being banned from most of it. Today, Americans are only allowed in a few Caribbean islands and the Balkans. An American passport is now worthless. Worse than worthless, it’s a plague.

In the absence of a humane government, America is now ruled by COVID-19. Welcome to the Plague States of America.

You’re actually understating this because you can’t even get a visa to Europe and many other places if you’re an American (with very limited exceptions).

spurraider21
07-14-2020, 08:25 PM
The walls being built aren't to keep Americans in, just FYI.
if it was, maybe mexico would actually pay for it

DMC
07-14-2020, 08:30 PM
if it was, maybe mexico would actually pay for it

I'm sure that's why they piled up at the border, to help keep Americans from crossing over.

ChumpDumper
07-14-2020, 08:35 PM
WHATABOUT THE WALL?

hater
07-15-2020, 06:23 AM
The walls being built aren't to keep Americans in, just FYI.

:lmao still believing in "build the wall" campaign promise :lmao

Brazil
07-15-2020, 07:50 AM
:lmao third world country

hater
07-15-2020, 08:45 AM
:lmao third world country

More like 4th world tbqh

Most 3rd world countries can at least visit their neighbors w no visa :lol

Splits
07-15-2020, 12:29 PM
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midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 12:40 PM
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Fuckin' kidding me.

My empathy is exhausted. I hope the Rona fuckin spikes and teaches this dumbass country a hard lesson that elections have consequences. I'll keep me and mine safe and hope everyone here keeps safe, even tholdren, but fuck it otherwise. We need the proverbial spanking to wise the fuck up.

TheGreatYacht
07-15-2020, 12:44 PM
Fuckin' kidding me.

My empathy is exhausted. I hope the Rona fuckin spikes and teaches this dumbass country a hard lesson that elections have consequences. I'll keep me and mine safe and hope everyone here keeps safe, even tholdren, but fuck it otherwise. We need the proverbial spanking to wise the fuck up.

Get on the plandemic board bruh. This whole Covid thong is a joke. Covid only exists on your televison.

baseline bum
07-15-2020, 12:46 PM
Fuckin' kidding me.

My empathy is exhausted. I hope the Rona fuckin spikes and teaches this dumbass country a hard lesson that elections have consequences. I'll keep me and mine safe and hope everyone here keeps safe, even tholdren, but fuck it otherwise. We need the proverbial spanking to wise the fuck up.

Hopefully DC goes up in flames when the coming eviction crisis unleashes nationwide riots.

midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 01:02 PM
Hopefully DC goes up in flames when the coming eviction crisis unleashes nationwide riots.

It's just really, really sickening. Feels like we're living in fuckin' North Korea. Other day saw Pompeo up there saying that "we've become the world leader in our Coronavirus response." Are you serious?


"Of course the U.S. remains the world leader in the pandemic," Pompeo told reporters, saying the "world turns its eyes" to American scientists ...

And the slack jawed dipshits who watch the Fox and OANN nod their heads proudly at those statements.

Oh, and if any Rs are inching closer to slamming the keys to write a whataboutism, if this Cuomo story has legs and can be corroborated, come down on him, too. I don't give a shit about the R and D teams. Whoever proves to be a fuck, deserves what they get.

SpursforSix
07-15-2020, 01:06 PM
It's just really, really sickening. Feels like we're living in fuckin' North Korea. Other day saw Pompeo up there saying that "we've become the world leader in our Coronavirus response." Are you serious?



Come on now.

midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 01:09 PM
Come on now.

Maybe not with the labor camps and such, but with the blatant propaganda that is almost near worshipful of Trump coming directly from his admin, we're damn close. Why we call Trump "Dear Leader."

The US needs to hold itself to a higher standard.

SpursforSix
07-15-2020, 01:19 PM
Maybe not with the labor camps and such, but with the blatant propaganda that is almost near worshipful of Trump coming directly from his admin, we're damn close. Why we call Trump "Dear Leader."

The US needs to hold itself to a higher standard.

I think we're still a long way from NK. For the most part, we can still say whatever we want about the government. Imagine bashing the NK leader like we do Trump. Or Obama. Or whoever is next.
Can't imagine any news piece in NK being anti-Kim. Not that I think we're "good" over here. Just that we're not as bad as some others.

TimDunkem
07-15-2020, 01:25 PM
"At least we're not North Korea!"

This is where we are.

Chucho
07-15-2020, 01:30 PM
Why is it that the people who live in the shittiest parts of this country are always the ones bleating the loudest about how great it is?


Because we have the highest standard of living, that's why. American poverty is still better than something like 5-6 billion people elsewhere.


Despite the deaths, these challenges can only help give Muricans perspective and help them understand how good our lives our.

People crying this place is unliveable let their First World Privilege show.

spurraider21
07-15-2020, 01:35 PM
Because we have the highest standard of living, that's why.
by what measure?

midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 01:36 PM
Because we have the highest standard of living, that's why. American poverty is still better than something like 5-6 billion people elsewhere.


Despite the deaths, these challenges can only help give Muricans perspective and help them understand how good our lives our.

People crying this place is unliveable let their First World Privilege show.

Dumb logic. A dirty, festering, shit smelling toilet with indoor plumbing is still better than having to take a shit in an outhouse every day, but when the smell of that dirty, festering toilet becomes overwhelming, do you say, "At least I have indoor plumbing! Think of all the poors that have to shit in a river in India." Or do you clean the fuckin' toilet?

midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 01:39 PM
by what measure?

His imagination. Our standard is of course first world, but it's not optimal first world and is exceeded by the standards of many Euro and Asian countries. But Americans would rather spout love it or leave it bullshit or deflect with, "At least we're not Nigeria!"

spurraider21
07-15-2020, 01:40 PM
Dumb logic. A dirty, festering, shit smelling toilet with indoor plumbing is still better than having to take a shit in an outhouse every day, but when the smell of that dirty, festering toilet becomes overwhelming, do you say, "At least I have indoor plumbing! Think of all the poors that have to shit in a river in India." Or do you clean the fuckin' toilet?
everybody who complained about obama making things bad and needing trump to make things great again was just whiny entitled privileged people who didnt appreciate how well they have it here!

midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 01:43 PM
everybody who complained about obama making things bad and needing trump to make things great again was just whiny entitled privileged people who didnt appreciate how well they have it here!

The issue stems from our collective ego, that is primarily manifest in Conservative Americans. They just do not want to admit that other countries have figured out a few things we could learn from. It's the American Way or the highway with these types.

SnakeBoy
07-15-2020, 01:45 PM
You libs need to get some perspective and look at the bright side.

In just a few months Sleepy Joe will make you feel proud to be an American again if he wins. If he loses you get years of feeling optimistic about the Bernie 2024 revolution while Trump makes America great again again.

midnightpulp
07-15-2020, 01:57 PM
You libs need to get some perspective and look at the bright side.

In just a few months Sleepy Joe will make you feel proud to be an American again if he wins. If he loses you get years of feeling optimistic about the Bernie 2024 revolution while Trump makes America great again again.

This is the core problem with American politics today, You constantly frame it as team vs. team like it's some sports matchup. It has nothing to do with "Orange Man Bad." When this pandemic first started, all the Libs here said they would take 4 more years of Trump if he could step up to the plate and solve this problem. And what did he do? He and his propaganda arm (Fox News) downplayed the virus, implied it was a Dem hoax, etc, etc. Then when Trump finally started to take it a bit seriously, he started tweeting "Liberate Michigan!" "Liberate Minnesota" as those governors were following the CORRECT method to curb the spread.

After that, anti-lockdown protests started popping up all over the country and, like always, the whiny minority voice won out. "But we couldn't stay locked down forever!"

The formula is pretty clear on how to stop/mitigate a pandemic. You lockdown for about 2 months to smash the R0 factor, you phase reopenings, set up a test and trace program, and you mask up. EVERY successful country has followed this formula. And they've managed to also mitigate the economic damage. All Trump had to do was that and he'd be cruising to reelection. But he and his base didn't have the patience.

This kind of incompetence shouldn't be rewarded with another term. No clue how the "base" will still march through corona to vote for this fuck. Oh, I know why. Because all that matters is getting a "win" vs. liberals. That's the base's raison d'etre. "Owning the libs."

DAF86
07-15-2020, 02:12 PM
Because we have the highest standard of living, that's why. American poverty is still better than something like 5-6 billion people elsewhere.


Despite the deaths, these challenges can only help give Muricans perspective and help them understand how good our lives our.

People crying this place is unliveable let their First World Privilege show.

That's such bullshit. :lol

I'm a third World country middle class man, and I know for a fact I have a better standard of living than all of poor Americans. And probably a better life than most American middle class people too.

I work 6 hours per day tops from monday to friday. I never work saturdays, sundays nor holidays and I get 2 and a half months vacations. I get healthcare, free education for me or my children (if I ever decide to have some). I have a city house and a beach one, a car and a quad bike. I play soccer and tennis twice a week each, I have barbacues with my friends three times a week and I go out every weekend.

Many middle class Americans probably earn more than me, but I doubt they enjoy life as much as I do. I work for a living, I don't live to work. I'm lucky as fuck and I wouldn't change my life for anything in the World. And the kicker is, you would be surprised how many more people are in the same position as me in this shithole third World country of mine.

If a non-exceptional dude from a third World country like me can have it pretty decent, imagine the non-exceptional dudes from countries like Norways, Sweden, Spain, Australia, etc.

Chucho
07-15-2020, 03:43 PM
That's such bullshit. :lol

I'm a third World country middle class man, and I know for a fact I have a better standard of living than all of poor Americans. And probably a better life than most American middle class people too.

I work 6 hours per day tops from monday to friday. I never work saturdays, sundays nor holidays and I get 2 and a half months vacations. I get healthcare, free education for me or my children (if I ever decide to have some). I have a city house and a beach one, a car and a quad bike. I play soccer and tennis twice a week each, I have barbacues with my friends three times a week and I go out every weekend.

Many middle class Americans probably earn more than me, but I doubt they enjoy life as much as I do. I work for a living, I don't live to work. I'm lucky as fuck and I wouldn't change my life for anything in the World. And the kicker is, you would be surprised how many more people are in the same position as me in this shithole third World country of mine.

If a non-exceptional dude from a third World country like me can have it pretty decent, imagine the non-exceptional dudes from countries like Norways, Sweden, Spain, Australia, etc.


TL; DR. You're too stupid to understand the ending of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.


There is absolutely zero merit in what you have to say.

Chucho
07-15-2020, 03:44 PM
Dumb logic. A dirty, festering, shit smelling toilet with indoor plumbing is still better than having to take a shit in an outhouse every day, but when the smell of that dirty, festering toilet becomes overwhelming, do you say, "At least I have indoor plumbing! Think of all the poors that have to shit in a river in India." Or do you clean the fuckin' toilet?


So...where do you live?

Chucho
07-15-2020, 03:48 PM
His imagination. Our standard is of course first world, but it's not optimal first world and is exceeded by the standards of many Euro and Asian countries. But Americans would rather spout love it or leave it bullshit or deflect with, "At least we're not Nigeria!"


Sorry, but all I am hearing is denial. It's going to be subjective for most. But I doubt if I said, "hey, would you trade places with someone in a 3rd world country?" you're going to say "no".

Don't know you, don't care about you as much as I do the next. You don't either unless you can prove otherwise. Words are words.

Chucho
07-15-2020, 03:49 PM
If life is this bad in Murica, and it's fair to say if you felt this way today, you should have felt this way 10 years ago... WHAT is keeping you from leaving this 1st world paradise where everyone is allowed to say what they want, until it offends you?

Very, very, very few people I see here that can relate to dire and shitty living standards.

ElNono
07-15-2020, 04:04 PM
Sorry, but all I am hearing is denial. It's going to be subjective for most. But I doubt if I said, "hey, would you trade places with someone in a 3rd world country?" you're going to say "no".

Some of us lived there, tbh, I would ask 'who?'

Chucho
07-15-2020, 04:18 PM
Some of us lived there, tbh, I would ask 'who?'


"Who" would be "most". I know you wouldn't bet on the under if a polygragh.

ChumpDumper
07-15-2020, 04:31 PM
The "move if it's so bad here" mantra is facile and disingenuous. Why move when you have the power, as difficult may be to implement, to change things where you live?

koriwhat
07-15-2020, 04:43 PM
It's about achieving international communism or one world government. Whichever nation refuses to participate in Jew World Order...well just look at what happened to Hitler and the Nazis. Them Zionists and Jewish supremacists control nations. Every host nation them parasites reside in, rest assured that they have dual loyalty to Israel. They put Israel's interest first over the host nation. They want Jerusalem to be the capital of the world. The rest of us Goyim (not koriwhat) will be their slaves. The dissenters will be slaughtered like what the Bolsheviks (Jews) did to the Christian Russians.

You're still a fucking idiot TheGreatRetard.

TheGreatYacht
07-15-2020, 04:50 PM
You're still a fucking idiot TheGreatRetard.

Just say it. The only reason you hate me is cuz I shit on your grandfather's ancestral Jewish heritage. You hate anyone that doesn't like Zionism or Judaism.

DAF86
07-15-2020, 05:38 PM
TL; DR. You're too stupid to understand the ending of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.


There is absolutely zero merit in what you have to say.

Dude, serious question: do you have some kind of autism or some shit like that?

koriwhat
07-15-2020, 06:28 PM
Just say it. The only reason you hate me is cuz I shit on your grandfather's ancestral Jewish heritage. You hate anyone that doesn't like Zionism or Judaism.

I don't even hate you. You're just a retarded YT extremist trying to pin me as some sort of Zionist or whatever the fuck you fancy. You're so far off tbh and I could not care less if you talk shit about a man we both knew nothing about. I pity you and your conspiratorial insane mind.

Let me remind you one more time since you can't quite comprehend... I'm not jewish, I have no ties to that community, and I frankly don't think or care about your Zionist bullshit. True or not, I simply don't care you YT extremist.

koriwhat
07-15-2020, 06:29 PM
Dude, serious question: do you have some kind of autism or some shit like that?

Shhhhh he's a san fran fresa. Don't hurt his feelings or he'll get his panties in a wad.

ElNono
07-15-2020, 08:22 PM
"Who" would be "most". I know you wouldn't bet on the under if a polygragh.

'most' I wouldn't trade. Plus, there's so many other pivot points, tbh... like I wouldn't mind living in select cities in Europe right now. Up and down is not the only direction to move, there's plenty of sideways.

Now, I do have family in a 3rd world country so I'm pretty sure I would pass that polygraph fairly easily, but I do admit to be a non-impartial person when it comes to this topic.

Trainwreck2100
07-15-2020, 08:29 PM
That's such bullshit. :lol

I'm a third World country middle class man, and I know for a fact I have a better standard of living than all of poor Americans. And probably a better life than most American middle class people too.

I work 6 hours per day tops from monday to friday. I never work saturdays, sundays nor holidays and I get 2 and a half months vacations. I get healthcare, free education for me or my children (if I ever decide to have some). I have a city house and a beach one, a car and a quad bike. I play soccer and tennis twice a week each, I have barbacues with my friends three times a week and I go out every weekend.

Many middle class Americans probably earn more than me, but I doubt they enjoy life as much as I do. I work for a living, I don't live to work. I'm lucky as fuck and I wouldn't change my life for anything in the World. And the kicker is, you would be surprised how many more people are in the same position as me in this shithole third World country of mine.

If a non-exceptional dude from a third World country like me can have it pretty decent, imagine the non-exceptional dudes from countries like Norways, Sweden, Spain, Australia, etc.

You clearly don't know how middle class Americans fair if you think they are doing better than you

DAF86
07-15-2020, 08:45 PM
You clearly don't know how middle class Americans fair if you think they are doing better than you

I have an idea. I think I told here the story about my horse worker cousin that went to live to the States and decided to come back because he was feeling like a slave.

If you want to start your own business and have a 1 in a million chance to become rich then the US is your place. If you are fine with living a middle class life without having to work 48hs per week for 11 and a half months, then you might be better off somewhere else.

ElNono
07-16-2020, 02:37 AM
I have an idea. I think I told here the story about my horse worker cousin that went to live to the States and decided to come back because he was feeling like a slave.

If you want to start your own business and have a 1 in a million chance to become rich then the US is your place. If you are fine with living a middle class life without having to work 48hs per week for 11 and a half months, then you might be better off somewhere else.

This is anecdote though. Especially in Argentina. There's roughly 30% of people in poverty, largely no access to credit, and if you live outside one of the big 3-4 cities, job opportunities are seriously scarce.

Not to mention you're a slave to perennial violent crime, economic and political instability, etc. Plus, you're condemning yourself to a earnings ceiling. You just simply are never going to earn a 100,000+ USD salary there, unless you're an extremely corrupt politician or you're drug dealing.

And before you tell me why I talk about USD, you know the economy there is basically ruled by US dollars. Buying properties, raw materials, etc, all in USD. The peso and the constant inflation is a joke.

DAF86
07-16-2020, 12:24 PM
This is anecdote though. Especially in Argentina. There's roughly 30% of people in poverty, largely no access to credit, and if you live outside one of the big 3-4 cities, job opportunities are seriously scarce.

I don't live in any of the big 3-4 cities and the job opportunities are just fine, tbh. Sure, you will have to move to one of them if you want to become a professional football player, actor, journalist of an important company or something else in that sense, but for the rest you are fine. In fact, in my province you have some job opportunities that you won't find in any of the big cities, like, for example, a wide variety of oil related opportunities.


Not to mention you're a slave to perennial violent crime, economic and political instability, etc.

I can't speak for Bs As, but the US is a whole lot more violent than the place I live in, tbh. No mass shootings here, no violent riots, no unmasked morons, etc.


Plus, you're condemning yourself to a earnings ceiling. You just simply are never going to earn a 100,000+ USD salary there, unless you're an extremely corrupt politician or you're drug dealing.

I admitted as much. But when you are living a "more than you could have asked for" middle class life without having to feel like a modern times slave, what more do you need? If you are one those people who are never satisfied, sure, go to the US to work your ass off from monday to monday to try and pull the unlikely scenario of becoming rich. In reality though, the vast majority of the immigrants that move there end up living a middle class life (in the best of circumstances) having to work a lot more hours than in most places.

I know that you are one of those people that moved to the US and by the looks of it you have done pretty well for yourself there, but that's usually not the norm. Most of the immigrants that go in search of the "American dream" end up working 10 hs shifts doing dishes.


And before you tell me why I talk about USD, you know the economy there is basically ruled by US dollars. Buying properties, raw materials, etc, all in USD. The peso and the constant inflation is a joke.

Sure, and with all of that I still wouldn't change it for anything. There are harder times and there are better ones, but at the end of the day you can have a pretty decent, not life consuming way of living here.