Coach Pop just announced Trey Lyles is out for the restart with injury, citing appendicitis.

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Coach Pop just announced Trey Lyles is out for the restart with injury, citing appendicitis.



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Pop said he'll be out all 8 games. He's done for the restart he said.

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FUUUUUUUUUURK!

Wondering if that just got Luka a bit of run though, to see what we might expect from him going into next season.

[ace3g]

Just start Luka at this point.

#LukaKeldonWhiteWalkerDejounte

[ginobilized]

Bummer!
When the hopes and dreams of a franchise are riding on Trey Lyles, might be time to rebuild.

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao :lmao

We're gonna see a lot of Rudy at the C

[Robz4000]

:lmao :lmao

We're gonna see a lot of Rudy at the C

Eh, might not be a bad thing. It opens minutes for younger players since Pop won't have to shoehorn Rudy into the SF position to get him the 30 minutes he "deserves".

[Joseph Kony]

Eh, might not be a bad thing. It opens minutes for younger players since Pop won't have to shoehorn Rudy into the SF position to get him the 30 minutes he "deserves".

true, if anything the injuries to LA/Lyles and the overall unlikelihood of making the playoffs means we'll get to see a lot of the young guns playing, which i am totally fine with. Just not going to be looking forward to SA getting dominated on the glass even more than usual

[gambit1990]

Just start Luka at this point.
yes.

[Dejounte]

Metu time. He's earned it.

[Degoat]

Could see a lot of Rudy and probably Keldon :flag:

[talkspurs]

Metu time. He's earned it.

I am totally on board with Metu starting next to Jacob. I would like to see DJM and KJ starting as well. the last spot should be a toss up between White and walker.

Bench would be the other one of white or Walker (probably white since he is more of a PG) Luka, Drew, Queen, DDR. Forbs can take a hard earned break. (because he sucks and I wont him to pout off the team).

[cd021]

Metu time. He's earned it.

Thought he really showed a lot of improvement, weird that Eubanks got playing time over him.

I don't see Pop starting Gay at the 4 and playing him 30 mpg, Metu actually might start and play 20+ mpg.

Murray, Forbes, DDR, Metu, Poeltl
Mills, White, Walker, Gay, Eubanks

[cd021]

I am totally on board with Metu starting next to Jacob. I would like to see DJM and KJ starting as well. the last spot should be a toss up between White and walker.

Bench would be the other one of white or Walker (probably white since he is more of a PG) Luka, Drew, Queen, DDR. Forbs can take a hard earned break. (because he sucks and I wont him to pout off the team).

If Woj is right about the Spurs prioritizing development then the lineup should be:

Murray, Walker, DDR, Metu, Poeltl
Mills, White, KJ, Gay, Eubanks

If and when the Spurs get eliminated from PS contention, then they should go;

Murray, Walker, KJ, Metu, Poeltl
Witherspoon, White, Samanic, Eubanks

[TD 21]

At this point, it's whatever, but as usual this team can't catch a break.

To start off, I suspect they'll go . . .

Starters: Gay, DeRozan, Poeltl, Forbes, Murray

Bench: Mills, White, Walker, Eubanks, Belinelli, Johnson

Deep bench/inactive: Metu, Zeller, Samanic, Weatherspoon

The "PF" hole won't be as gaping when they get to 3 of the last 4 (Jazz twice, Rockets). They also might just start sitting any or all of DeRozan, Gay, Mills, Belinelli during that stretch.

[talkspurs]

If Woj is right about the Spurs prioritizing development then the lineup should be:

Murray, Walker, DDR, Metu, Poeltl
Mills, White, KJ, Gay, Eubanks

If and when the Spurs get eliminated from PS contention, then they should go;

Murray, Walker, KJ, Metu, Poeltl
Witherspoon, White, Samanic, Eubanks

Yours are more realistic but I am also hoping to see some Luka time.

[KobesAchilles]

Who in the blue hell is Trey Lyles?

[phxspurfan]

who cares

[slick'81]

But our championship aspirations!

[kht]

Damn... we would have had a solid squad if we were all healthy. No home court advantage... our young guys and Derozan not getting shook.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Pop is going to play the least dynamic combination of whoever is available.

[Uriel]

:lmao 2020 Spurs

[tmtcsc]

Just start Luka at the point.

#LukaKeldonWhiteWalkerDejounte

Fify

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Pop right now

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=can+marco+belinelli+play+power+forward

Probably

[gambit1990]

great news tbh.

luka needs all the PT he can get.

[Arcadian]

Oh no! Trey Lyles was a crucial piece, and the team's success depended on his health!

Said no one ever.

[8FOR!3]

Metu is a center imo. It'll probably be Gay/Poeltl at the 4 and 5. But that's another rotation spot off the bench for the young guys at least, fingers crossed.

[Chinook]

Metu is definitely a PF. Issue isn't that he doesn't play Lyles' position. It's that he sucks. A lot. Like he's clearly the worst player on the team.

[Seventyniner]

Given that Poeltl isn't much of a scoring threat, I expect Gay to start at the 4. That and the almost complete lack of other options.

At this point I'm hoping for Murray/Walker/DeRozan/Gay/Poeltl as the starters, but knowing Pop he will find a way to get Forbes in there.

[Dverde]

Good thing we added that Plumsee guy not named Plumslee

[Thomas82]

I guess we can expect to see Tyler Zeller starting in his place.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I guess we can expect to see Tyler Zeller starting in his place.

Zeller Time!

[Chinook]

Given that Poeltl isn't much of a scoring threat, I expect Gay to start at the 4. That and the almost complete lack of other options.

At this point I'm hoping for Murray/Walker/DeRozan/Gay/Poeltl as the starters, but knowing Pop he will find a way to get Forbes in there.

Yeah, Gay and DMDR will get the bulk of PF minutes. Walker will get a lot of SF minutes. Forbes will probably start and play a lot of two-guard minutes.

[Seventyniner]

Yeah, Gay and DMDR will get the bulk of PF minutes. Walker will get a lot of SF minutes. Forbes will probably start and play a lot of two-guard minutes.

So either Walker comes off the bench or DeRozan starts at PF?

Unfortunately you're probably right about Forbes. I had hoped White would take a lot of his minutes but if it didn't happen before the season was suspended there's no reason to believe it will happen now. Also, with two bigs out several players will have to shift up positions, opening up even more minutes at guard. I don't see Beli getting any minutes at the 2, for example.

Edit: that last part shows how little attention I was paying during the season. Beli's minutes were 19% SG, 71% SF, 10% PF according to bkref. Walker also played 80% of his minutes at SF.

[Spurtacular]

Forbes still starting?

Good luck.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

losing a big man to appendicitis, not covid?

ciapop zigging while the rest of the nba zags

:smokin :pop:

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

It's just an appendix. Two, three days and he should be back out there.

I once played a 30 game tournament with one of my legs missing and having to run up and down the court uphill, both ways, in the snow. Shake it off, Trey!

[spurs10]

It's just an appendix. Two, three days and he should be back out there.

I once played a 30 game tournament with one of my legs missing and having to run up and down the court uphill, both ways, in the snow. Shake it off, Trey! Now that's what we need on this team 'try!'

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Given that Poeltl isn't much of a scoring threat, I expect Gay to start at the 4. That and the almost complete lack of other options.

At this point I'm hoping for Murray/Walker/DeRozan/Gay/Poeltl as the starters, but knowing Pop he will find a way to get Forbes in there.

Poeltl plays well in PnR and there's no better player in that set on the team than White.

So not playing those two together is counterproductive. You almost either have to start White or put Poeltl on the second team to maximize their combined talents.

But then Poeltl will evidently get salty abt not starting so,you almost have to start White and Murray and DeRozan

Then have Walker and Johnson and Patty or Forbes play together.

So imo, your 1st team is: Murray, White, DeRozan, Gay, and Poeltl

2nd team is: Patty, Walker, Johnson, Metu/Samanic, Eubanks/Zeller

Third team/bench players: Quin, Forbes, Beli, and either of the PF and C not playing second team minutes.

Dear God that 3rd team....the defensive efficiency would be historically awful.

No wonder this team is on the outside of the playoffs looking in. All those defensive teams are just unsightly. The 1st team without LaMarcus is a clear step down.

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It's just an appendix. Two, three days and he should be back out there.

I once played a 30 game tournament with one of my legs missing and having to run up and down the court uphill, both ways, in the snow. Shake it off, Trey!

who was the player this year that missed like 2.5 months because of it? Thinking Utah...

[RC_Drunkford]

true, if anything the injuries to LA/Lyles and the overall unlikelihood of making the playoffs means we'll get to see a lot of the young guns playing, which i am totally fine with. Just not going to be looking forward to SA getting dominated on the glass even more than usual

keep dreaming. It only means Flopovich will play Forbes 40 minutes instead of 30

[Thomas82]

Zeller Time!

It wouldn't shock me one bit.

[ismael-robert]

Before the break he had back to back 20pt games then back to back double figure games...he was really finding his grove n is a significant loss. Wouldn't be surprised if he was our best rebounder

[cool cat]

Oh no the worst starting PF in the league isn't going to be there... now we will have to compete with the just the worst starting SG in the league.

[daslicer]

Oh no the worst starting PF in the league isn't going to be there... now we will have to compete with the just the worst starting SG in the league.

:lol

[dbestpro]

I wonder what Dominique Wilkins is doing?

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Lyles got Lasik


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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1301236909277155329

[Dejounte]

Oh yeah the MVP is back

[BackHome]

Lyles is a decent bench player but he is not a starting player I look at him at stop gate to Luka

[John B]

Trey started bad in the league, but playing with our energetic young core could be good for him. It could be fun. He has the size, range, ball handling, assist. He just needs the motor that hopefully playing with the youngsters will rub on him.

[exstatic]

Lyles was playing as well as any of our young players when the league halted in March.

[GAustex]

Lyles is not the problem.
At least one of the two highest paid are the problem-it is arguable who- and the coach are the problem

[J_Paco]

Trey started bad in the league, but playing with our energetic young core could be good for him. It could be fun. He has the size, range, ball handling, assist. He just needs the motor that hopefully playing with the youngsters will rub on him.

I legitimately laughed out loud at that comment. I don't think having a high motor is something that can be learned.

Even with a questionable motor, Lyles proved to be a solid rebounder for us.

He can't and hopefully won't be the long - term starting PF. I do like him as a stretching big that can do a little bit of everything off the bench, though.

I hope we can keep him around at a reasonable price.

[BackHome]

Yeah I would keep him on cheap like I said before he is a decent bench player but he needs to more aggressive on offense and work on his 3 ball before next season.

[Kurgan]

Lyles is garbage. If he's your starting PF, your team is probably lottery bound. Hopefully neither him or Bryn are on the starting lineup next year.

[KobesAchilles]

Get rid of Lyles. How tf is Pop gonna make him a starter? Wright has to save us from Pop

[exstatic]

Yeah I would keep him on cheap like I said before he is a decent bench player but he needs to more aggressive on offense and work on his 3 ball before next season.

How much higher than 39% do you think he should shoot from beyond the arc?

[R. DeMurre]

A 24 year old Lyles making $5.5mil/year and hitting 39% of his threes is the least of this team's problems.

[Seventyniner]

Lyles is a fine backup PF imo, and is young enough to have at least a small chance of getting better. His skillset fits the starting lineup, but at the moment he isn't good enough to raise the team's ceiling if he's a starter.

[BackHome]

How much higher than 39% do you think he should shoot from beyond the arc?.

He doesn’t shoot the three when it matters and what is he volume of shooting I have seen many games where he passes the open shot in close games. Like I said I would keep him but he needs to be more aggressive and shoot when he is open. He reminds me of Fat Head in that he was always so damn timid on offense.

[exstatic]

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He doesn’t shoot the three when it matters and what is he volume of shooting I have seen many games where he passes the open shot in close games. Like I said I would keep him but he needs to be more aggressive and shoot when he is open. He reminds me of Fat Head in that he was always so damn timid on offense.

ALL of our guys need to up their volume. Doesn’t mean they can’t shoot. He also lost his shyness after January.

[ismael-robert]

Lets not forget it's his 1st year! Wasn't the mantra always it takes guys a year to warm up to Spurs system. As ecstatic said focus on his play in Feb-March...heck same for dj before the break he started beasting too.Im actually excited to see what he brings next season. And yes he started season as our best rebounder. I think pop might've actually told him to focus less on rebounding to get other parts of his game going

[John B]

I legitimately laughed out loud at that comment. I don't think having a high motor is something that can be learned.


Of course it is. The way teammates play, their attitude is very infectious. That’s why playing along Beli/Bryn, chucking 3’s but accounting no defense, sucked out the defensive stance and leads. Why would anyone play hard defense when those two don’t? I’m just saying, in the bubble ALL five players on the court always played defense most of the games, no let downs. Everybody sprinting back. It should be fun.

[TDMVPDPOY]

whoever is cheap to keep...keep, the 2 overpaid chumps and wombat/forbes needs to go... any remnants left remaining from kawhi roster needs to go...

[TD 21]

How much higher than 39% do you think he should shoot from beyond the arc?

Percentage isn't overly important. Sure, a certain baseline (35 and up) over a large enough sample size to establish a reputation is important, but volume, versatility (side step/back, pullup, off movement) and quickness of release all play a significant role in whether the defense respects the shooter enough for them to be a spacer or not.

Lyles doesn't check that box and while his other perimeter skills (handle, passing, lateral quickness) are fine for a "PF", they're underwhelming for the converted "SF"'s who mostly populate that position nowadays, which renders him an outdated archetype.



Lets not forget it's his 1st year! Wasn't the mantra always it takes guys a year to warm up to Spurs system. As ecstatic said focus on his play in Feb-March...heck same for dj before the break he started beasting too.Im actually excited to see what he brings next season. And yes he started season as our best rebounder. I think pop might've actually told him to focus less on rebounding to get other parts of his game going

:lmao What "system"? The Spurs, like the rest of the league, play a basic, homogenized style now.

And no coach would tell anyone to focus less on defensive rebounding, let alone their best defensive rebounder.

[ace3g]

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[8FOR!3]

Meh. He's young enough where he might still have a little upside, he's not 25 yet.

[BackHome]

Actually I think he should start next year and Rudy should be traded if possible for a draft pick which pains me to say cause I like Rudy. But it’s painfully obvious that Rudy’s body will not hold up to a whole season and his defense has gotten worse as the years go by. He looked good in the bubble which helps in getting a semi decent draft pick.

But in all honesty I want the young kids to get as much playing time I don’t care if we win one game actually I hope we loose and are in the lottery cause that is the quickest way to get back in the race. Spurs need to not let LMA, DEROZZ, and Rudy walk and get nothing in return. Try and get a 2021 picks and a 2022 pick

[FutureMan]

I think he needs to stay until the starting AND backup PF spots are determined. He could even be the future back up PF and play some stretch center too. We might get our answer immediately depending on who is drafted.

[GAustex]

Lyles is not the problem.
At least one of the two highest paid are the problem-it is arguable who- and the coach are the problem

[RC_Drunkford]

I'd say Bryn Forbes is the main problem and the 3rd, 4th and 5th highest players being bench players who can't start is another one.

It's either Lyles or Gay. Neither of the 2 can start and only one can be the back up. I'd be fine to trade Gay and keep Lyles to come off the bench, since he only costs a 3rd and is a lot younger, but we better not have both on the roster next season

[ace3g]

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[BackHome]

Yep, you can always tell when it's contract year they be putting in the work to get those Benjamin's.

[talkspurs]

I'd say Bryn Forbes is the main problem and the 3rd, 4th and 5th highest players being bench players who can't start is another one.


5th highest player actually could not even stay on the team. Beli would be the 6th highest paid player.

[BackHome]

We only keep them if we are going to tank next year which is not a bad idea.

[exstatic]

Yep, you can always tell when it's contract year they be putting in the work to get those Benjamin's.

No one did that better than Bonzi Wells. You can look through his yearly stat lines, and easily pick out his contract years. He played at an All Star level two or three times, just never right AFTER signing a new contract.

[look_at_g_shred]

Lyles was balling before the season was suspended. He was money from 3. Reminded me of Boris tbh

[ace3g]

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[cool cat]

Trey Lyles is the worst starting PF in the league.

You can argue if Bryn is worse but we still made the playoffs with Bryn in the starting lineup, putting two of the worst starters in the league was too much and this team and they crashed because of it.

[ismael-robert]

X Factor

[SpursDynasty85]

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He looks noticeably thinner (hopefully intentionally). That was a sweet jumper too! Should we start looking at him as a center now? He can rebound and defend competently against most teams.

[ace3g]

Maybe Lyles has been part of the mini-camps as well.

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[rankingtear]

Lyles is in the minicamp per Jeff Garcia

[ZeusWillJudge]

I would love to see him find his place, and finally live up to his potential. Some guys grow up.

[Ocotillo]

I would love to see him find his place, and finally live up to his potential. Some guys grow up. This.

[The Truth #6]

He seems to have found a home in SA, at least compared to his other stops. I see him as a young complementary piece with interesting skills. I’m not sure about all the hate against him. I would hate if they overpaid him but that’s about it.

[Seventyniner]

He seems to have found a home in SA, at least compared to his other stops. I see him as a young complementary piece with interesting skills. I’m not sure about all the hate against him. I would hate if they overpaid him but that’s about it.

I also think Lyles has a good skillset for his position to balance the roster. But he will need to improve to be worth keeping around after this season. He's young enough that such improvement is certainly possible, here's hoping that he does so.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I also think Lyles has a good skillset for his position to balance the roster. But he will need to improve to be worth keeping around after this season. He's young enough that such improvement is certainly possible, here's hoping that he does so.


Lyles was a highly rated recruit out of high school, but he went to a loaded Kentucky team. (That team put 4 players in the lottery in that draft.) Because they had Karl Anthony Towns and Willie Cauley-Stein who were both upperclassmen, Lyles got moved to SF which he wasn't really suited for. Then he declared for the draft after on year, when he should have stayed for a second season at Kentucky. He was young and had an attitude, and was drafted by Utah where he didn't want to be. It was a perfect storm for his immaturity. He chucked, he refused to play defense, and he pouted.

This year he showed a willingness to do what the team required, for the first time in his career. I think it was obvious that Pop liked what he saw. If Lyles worked this offseason, and keeps that attitude, he's going to be on the roster this year without question. If he's really grown up, he could be here more years after that.

[hooperflash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqB5Sbvlnw

[RC_Drunkford]

He seems to have found a home in SA, at least compared to his other stops. I see him as a young complementary piece with interesting skills. I’m not sure about all the hate against him. I would hate if they overpaid him but that’s about it.

not really hate, he's just not a starter. All starting PFs in the NBA are way better players than him. I also think he's found a home on the Spurs and he's young enough to where he fits with the young core. He also still has some upside to his game. But if we keep him he has to come off the bench and if you got him and Rudy you gotta pick one and try to sign a real starter at the PF position.

[ace3g]

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[FutureMan]

Lyles can easily be our Bonner replacement. He just shouldn’t start.

[FutureMan]

Bonner needs a replacement?

What did Bonner do that was so important that it needs to be replaced?

round and round ...round and round...


He was a solid 3rd stringer. Came out hit 3’s and the crowd would go wild.

The Spurs have much bigger issues than Lyles. Let’s focus on those first.

[DavidTheGoliath]

rebuild/ing :lol

[EasyMoney]

Off the bench stretch 5. That's trey right now. I like him.

[Dejounte]

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Pencil him in for next year's rotations. He sounds confident in coming back to the Spurs by posting this with #gospursgo

[Seventyniner]

Pencil him in for next year's rotations. He sounds confident in coming back to the Spurs by posting this with #gospursgo

iirc his deal is non-guaranteed for next season. When do the Spurs have to decide on him?

Right now he will definitely get minutes at the 4, and might keep starting if the team doesn't have a better option; he wouldn't have started over Morris for example.

[FutureMan]

iirc his deal is non-guaranteed for next season. When do the Spurs have to decide on him?

Right now he will definitely get minutes at the 4, and might keep starting if the team doesn't have a better option; he wouldn't have started over Morris for example.

If the Spurs pick a PF for their 11th pick the start of the season will probably have Lyles starting. As the season goes on though I think it will change to:

Murray
White
DeRozan
Smith/Achiuwa
Aldridge

[BWS-1994]

If the Spurs pick a PF for their 11th pick the start of the season will probably have Lyles starting. As the season goes on though I think it will change to:

Murray
White
DeRozan
Smith/Achiuwa
Aldridge

Possibly Samanic instead of the 2020 rookie.

[Dejounte]

After they exercise the option and resign him for the minimum? Anything else is either stupidity or insanity.

This guy is and always will be a BUM and the only reason you have any interest is because he happened to be picked "in the lottery" in one of the weakest drafts in the last 3 decades.

I personally don't care whether he is or isn't on the team

News of him returning is a big *yawn* for me

[Atl Spur]

Trey played aight......

[ace3g]

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[The Truth #6]

He was making 3s at the end of the season. He’s still improving. If you’re going to roll the dice with Poku (and Luka, to be honest), then it makes sense to have him on the team for a few more years, at a low price, of course.

[ace3g]

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[K...]

You can start a new trey thread, it's the off-season, we don't have to be stringy

[R. DeMurre]

In NBA terms, Lyles is making almost nothing. He's the least of our concerns.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He's not our worst player.

But, yeah, it's interesting that a guy that couldn't see the floor from his spot on the bench in Denver was a regular part of our rotation. Shows how weak our roster was this past season. Pop should have been COY for squeezing more than 18 wins out of this group.

[talkspurs]

He's not our worst player.

But, yeah, it's interesting that a guy that couldn't see the floor from his spot on the bench in Denver was a regular part of our rotation. Shows how weak our roster was this past season. Pop should have been COY for squeezing more than 18 wins out of this group.


yes lets say Pop is a COY for starting him and Forbes instead of starting better players which were on the team. (more so with forbes then lyles)