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ducks
07-19-2020, 02:58 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/chicago-shootings-weekend/index.html

ducks
07-19-2020, 02:59 PM
So liberal logic their mayor has blood on hands

Will Hunting
07-19-2020, 03:00 PM
What is your solution to the gun violence in Chicago, ducks?

ducks
07-19-2020, 03:01 PM
As of July 12, Chicago police reported 385 murders this year, a 48% increase from at the same point in 2019, and 1,541 shootings, a 46% increase from the same point last year.

ducks
07-19-2020, 03:02 PM
What is your solution to the gun violence in Chicago, ducks?

Firing squad in one year who gets convicted of murder not 27 years put to death with a needle like they do with sick animals

FrostKing
07-19-2020, 03:08 PM
White supremacist at it again?

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 03:14 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/chicago-shootings-weekend/index.htmlwhat if I told you that irl Beaumont, Tx is more dangerous than Chicago, IL?

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous

https://www.escapehere.com/destination/25-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-in-2020/

Will Hunting
07-19-2020, 03:25 PM
what if I told you that irl Beaumont, Tx is more dangerous than Chicago, IL?

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous

https://www.escapehere.com/destination/25-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-in-2020/
:lol so many conservative meccas in states like Arkansas and Oklahoma ahead of Chicago on that list.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 03:29 PM
Picking on Chicago is a tell but it's also a deflection.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 03:32 PM
I guess Trump failed to stop American Carnage....
880739852286918656

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 03:37 PM
I guess Trump failed to stop American Carnage....
880739852286918656I worry he'll attempt to stop it with his DHS myrmidons and create more carnage of his own.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 03:39 PM
I worry he'll attempt to stop it with his DHS myrmidons and create more carnage of his own.I think they'd rather battle "antifa" and protesters than address an actual problem.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 03:40 PM
I think they'd rather battle "antifa" and protesters than address an actual problem.Trump fronts out hard, but his ass is made of ice cream. We've seen it many times, I hope you're right.

DMC
07-19-2020, 03:45 PM
what if I told you that irl Beaumont, Tx is more dangerous than Chicago, IL?

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous

https://www.escapehere.com/destination/25-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-in-2020/

Based on how much fake shit you post, I'd have to question it.

DMC
07-19-2020, 03:50 PM
:lol so many conservative meccas in states like Arkansas and Oklahoma ahead of Chicago on that list.

Violent crime /= murder

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 03:50 PM
Based on how much fake shit you post, I'd have to question it.Go for it

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 03:51 PM
who are you to question Neighborhoodscout.com?

Joseph Kony
07-19-2020, 03:51 PM
what is the point of making this thread? :lol ducks doesnt give a shit about people shot in Chicago

Will Hunting
07-19-2020, 04:04 PM
Violent crime /= murder
Yeah I’m sure Pine Bluff Arkansas is a fine place to live :lol

ducks
07-19-2020, 04:06 PM
I think they'd rather battle "antifa" and protesters than address an actual problem.

Those people burn your business and destroy billions of dollars are actually problems
Damm you are a fool

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 04:11 PM
Violent crime /= murderI don't see Chicago on this list either, how is Neighborhoodscout.com doing it wrong?

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/highest-murder-rate-cities

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 04:23 PM
who are you to question Neighborhoodscout.com?originally popped off in jest, the punch line is that in all likelihood, neither DMC nor ducks will be able to overcome NeighborhoodScout.com or explain why they keep picking on Chicago.

Must be code for something.

ducks
07-19-2020, 04:33 PM
Cnn had the headline today not ducks

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 04:39 PM
Cnn had the headline today not ducksYou made it a thread here, not CNN.

You have no comeback. Chicago is neither a murder capitol nor a crime capitol.

What's your real beef, ducks?

ElNono
07-19-2020, 04:42 PM
Yeah I’m sure Pine Bluff Arkansas is a fine place to live :lol

Just go to the CDC here and sort by death rate (number of deaths per 100,000 population):

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

:lol

Will Hunting
07-19-2020, 05:13 PM
Just go to the CDC here and sort by death rate (number of deaths per 100,000 population):

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

:lol
:lmao the Bible Belt being murder central while evil communist Vermont has almost no murders

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:15 PM
:lmao the Bible Belt being murder central while evil communist Vermont has almost no murders

Vermont had open carry without permit before any CHL legislation. They always saw the 2A at face value.

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:16 PM
originally popped off in jest, the punch line is that in all likelihood, neither DMC nor ducks will be able to overcome NeighborhoodScout.com or explain why they keep picking on Chicago.

Must be code for something.

Don't you have some fake news tweet to repost? Get ta crackin'

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:17 PM
Vermont had open carry without permit before any CHL legislation. They always saw the 2A at face value.That's right, go pick somebody else's nit after your crash landing ITT. :lol

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:17 PM
Yeah I’m sure Pine Bluff Arkansas is a fine place to live :lol

The racial makeup of the city was 75.6% Black or African American, 21.8% White, 0.2% Native American, 0.63% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 0.68% from other races, and 1.1% from two or more races. 1.5% of the population were Latino of any race.

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:18 PM
That's right, go pick somebody else's nit after your crash landing ITT. :lol

More fake news.

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:20 PM
You made it a thread here, not CNN.

You have no comeback. Chicago is neither a murder capitol nor a crime capitol.

What's your real beef, ducks?

So because there are cities with more deaths, Chicago is unimportant?

Sounds like whataboutism to me

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:21 PM
Don't you have some fake news tweet to repost? Get ta crackin'Make a lotta noise to bury the bad takes like turds in a litterbox. I'd be embarrassed too.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:22 PM
But do keep going, the self-disclosure is appreciated.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:27 PM
So because there are cities with more deaths, Chicago is unimportant?

Sounds like whataboutism to meSounds like you just asked yourself a question and answered it for me.

Clever!

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:27 PM
Make a lotta noise to bury the bad takes like turds in a litterbox. I'd be embarrassed too.

Says the one posting fake videos. :lol

oh noes!

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:33 PM
Eh, impatience breeds mistakes. I acknowledged the bad attribution promptly, a newspaper has to wait until the next day, what's your beef?

Blake
07-19-2020, 05:37 PM
So liberal logic their mayor has blood on hands

Trump's America per his own political ads

Splits
07-19-2020, 05:40 PM
Oh yeah, well did you hear about Cuomo packing nursing homes to intentionally spread covid?

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 05:41 PM
I guess Trump failed to stop American Carnage....
880739852286918656

Has black democrat female mayor failed to stop the carnage?

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:42 PM
Eh, impatience breeds mistakes. I acknowledged the bad attribution promptly, a newspaper has to wait until the next day, what's your beef?

Yeah your mea culpa magazine capacity seems infinite. You think that's an easy out for spreading fake news.

DMC
07-19-2020, 05:43 PM
Oh yeah, well did you hear about Cuomo packing nursing homes to intentionally spread covid?

Cute childish strawman again. 33K dead people are now a running joke to the left.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:47 PM
Yeah your mea culpa magazine capacity seems infinite. You think that's an easy out for spreading fake news.it's understandable you'd want to make this all about me and all about me in other threads when you face planted so badly in this one.

(((())))

Will Hunting
07-19-2020, 05:49 PM
The racial makeup of the city was 75.6% Black or African American, 21.8% White, 0.2% Native American, 0.63% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 0.68% from other races, and 1.1% from two or more races. 1.5% of the population were Latino of any race.
I’m surprised the bootstrap capitalism, conservative policies of Arkansas haven’t lifted them out of poverty yet!

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 05:51 PM
Deflecting direct questions, picking nits and avoiding own takes at all costs --- Pobrecito DMC!

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 06:10 PM
Has black democrat female mayor failed to stop the carnage?

It was Trump's promise.

ducks
07-19-2020, 06:33 PM
It was Trump's promise.

Too bad for you he has kepted more then any presidents

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 06:34 PM
he kepted them

DMX7
07-19-2020, 06:37 PM
What happened to the more guns the safer philosophy???

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 06:43 PM
Too bad for you he has kepted more then any presidentsShow me the list of every "kepted" promise from every president.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 06:46 PM
lol bested by NeighborhoodScout.com

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 06:48 PM
It was Trump's promise.


Has black democrat female mayor failed to stop the carnage?

Yes or no.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 06:49 PM
Has black democrat female mayor failed to stop the carnage?

Yes or no.
Not her promise.

Trump's promise.

Don't be mad that Trump made a promise he didn't keep. He's pretty well known for lying.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 06:55 PM
Not her promise.

Trump's promise.

Don't be mad that Trump made a promise he didn't keep. He's pretty well known for lying.

You can't even take responsibility for your failure at the most fundamental level.

MOAR CONVENIENCE :lol


Has black democrat female mayor failed to stop the carnage?

Yes or no.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 06:58 PM
You can't even take responsibility for your failure at the most fundamental level.It was Trump's promise, so you want him to take responsibility for his own failure at the most fundamental level.:tu

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:04 PM
It was Trump's promise, so you want him to take responsibility for his own failure at the most fundamental level.:tu

You'll always need scapegoats. Just admit black woman democrat failed.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:06 PM
You'll always need scapegoats.:lol It's Trump's promise. Why are you trying to find a scapegoat for his failure?

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:13 PM
:lol It's Trump's promise. Why are you trying to find a scapegoat for his failure?

He may not have met that aim. I never thought he would. The Democrat system is built for failure.

Now has black woman democrat failed?

Yes or no.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:15 PM
He may not have met that aim. I never thought he would. So you were primed for his failure.

Doesn't mean he didn't fail.

He failed.

His promise.

His failure.

All you want to do is find a scapegoat for it.

Try talking about his failure without mentioning anyone else.

Blake
07-19-2020, 07:21 PM
Cute childish strawman again. 33K dead people are now a running joke to the left.

He's clowning the right wing nuts that keep bringing up the nursing homes in New York, idiot

Blake
07-19-2020, 07:23 PM
Too bad for you he has kepted more then any presidents

:lol ducks

ElNono
07-19-2020, 07:23 PM
Oh yeah, well did you hear about Cuomo packing nursing homes to intentionally spread covid?

:lol

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:24 PM
So you were primed for his failure.

Doesn't mean he didn't fail.

He failed.

His promise.

His failure.

All you want to do is find a scapegoat for it.

Try talking about his failure without mentioning anyone else.

All that comfort blather. :lmao

Now has black woman democrat failed?

Yes or no.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:28 PM
black woman democratderp fails

Try talking about Trump's failure without mentioning anyone else.

ElNono
07-19-2020, 07:28 PM
So because there are cities with more deaths, Chicago is unimportant?

Sounds like whataboutism to me

I think it's valid to point out Chicago, or Illinois as a whole as a State that it's in the top 10 in homicides, and should do better.

Singling it out, however, comes across as somewhat disingenuous.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:37 PM
derp fails

Try talking about Trump's failure without mentioning anyone else.

Has black woman democrat failed?

Yes or no.

If it's too hard for you to admit, I'll just have to accept that from you, weak man.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:38 PM
Has black woman democrat failed?

Yes or no.

If it's too hard for you to admit, I'll just have to accept that from you, weak man.
You'll have to tell me what she promised.

If she promised to end American Carnage like Trump did, she's as bad a failure as Trump.

And you agree Trump is a massive failure.:tu

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:40 PM
You'll have to tell me what she promised.

If she promised to end American Carnage like Trump did, she's as bad a failure as Trump.

And you agree Trump is a massive failure.:tu

I didn't say she promised anything. Presumably she ran on a safe community.

Don't be dull, cherp.

You're okay with all the black people dying. You're as racist as they come.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:42 PM
I didn't say she promised anything.Well there you go.

You can't say she failed to keep her promise if she never made the promise.

Trump made the promise.

Trump failed.

You agree he failed to keep his promise.:tu

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:44 PM
Well there you go.

You can't say she failed to keep her promise if she never made the promise.

Trump made the promise.

Trump failed.

You agree he failed to keep his promise.:tu

I've never once said she broke a promise, philo dumper.

I am just saying she failed.

You can't say that cos it hurts your feelings too much. :lmao

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:45 PM
I've never once said she broke a promise.Great.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:47 PM
Great.

:lol You're going to try and cut it at you winning an argument I never argued?

:lolK, weak man.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:50 PM
:lol You're going to try and cut it at you winning an argument I never argued?You're arguing that someone else should take the blame for Trump's failure to keep his promise.

Nope.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:52 PM
You're arguing that someone else should take the blame for Trump's failure to keep his promise.

Nope.

You can't quote me on that.

I'm arguing that black woman democrat failed. You're wildly doing your whataboutism even after I said Trump didn't hit his aim.

That's what we call TRIGGERED AF. :lmao

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:53 PM
You can't quote me on that.

I'm arguing that black woman democrat failed.What did she promise?

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 07:55 PM
What did she promise?

I've never said she promised anything. Stop trying to make it about stuff I'm not arguing. We've already covered that, weak man.

I say she's a failure straight up. She's failed to keep her city safe.

You're okay with all the black people being murdered. You're just that racist!

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 07:55 PM
I've never said she promised anything.Great. I've been talking about politicians' promises.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 08:13 PM
Great. I've been talking about politicians' promises.

In lieu of admitting that black woman democrat is a failure. We all know this, weak man.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 08:14 PM
In lieu ofNope. I'm just not biting on your scapegoat attempt. Your buzzwords won't change anything.

You will predictably not let this go and use more buzzwords.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 08:25 PM
Nope. I'm just not biting on your scapegoat attempt. Your buzzwords won't change anything.

You will predictably not let this go and use more buzzwords.

You can circle the airfield all you want cos you can't land on black woman democrat failing. :lmao

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 08:29 PM
WHATABOUT ANYONE ELSE BUT MUH TRUMP?

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 08:43 PM
I'VE ALREADY SAID TRUMP DIDN'T HIT THAT AIM (AT LEAST TWICE).

Cherp you want to go on for pages without ever admitting black woman democrat failed.
It's what you do.

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:30 PM
He's clowning the right wing nuts that keep bringing up the nursing homes in New York, idiot

No, seriously? No wonder you were such an easy mark.

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:32 PM
I’m surprised the bootstrap capitalism, conservative policies of Arkansas haven’t lifted them out of poverty yet!

Well Vermont is like 95% white. The Clintons never got their people to the promised land, they just left them for NY.

Spurminator
07-19-2020, 09:36 PM
So because there are cities with more deaths, Chicago is unimportant?

Sounds like whataboutism to me

Wherein DMC defends another ducks Chicago thread because the alternative is siding with the libs.

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:37 PM
I think it's valid to point out Chicago, or Illinois as a whole as a State that it's in the top 10 in homicides, and should do better.

Singling it out, however, comes across as somewhat disingenuous.

Sure, you can point to Baltimore, Detroit, St Louis, New Orleans and a few other cities as well. MSM focuses on Chicago because of the number of shootings even if most of them don't lead to deaths. Waving it off it as in-fighting is as racist and dismissive as anything I've seen.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 09:39 PM
Keep going, you're doing so well

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:39 PM
Wherein DMC defends another ducks Chicago thread because the alternative is siding with the libs.

Thread is about Chicago. Someone comes in and mentions another city. That's whataboutism, not addressing the topic.

Example


what if I told you that irl Beaumont, Tx is more dangerous than Chicago, IL?

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous

https://www.escapehere.com/destination/25-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-in-2020/

If this was someone from the right, "whataboutism" would be slung and you'd be ok with it, you might even be the one slinging it.

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:40 PM
Keep going, you're doing so well

You lost a lot of cred in this town with your latest stunt. Go lick your wounds.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 09:49 PM
Jaja internet tuff guy you're so tuff :fight

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:51 PM
Jaja internet tuff guy you're so tuff :fight

The embarrassment in you shines through. Hope you learned something from your haste to be 1st to report fear porn.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 09:55 PM
You spend way more time thinking of me than I spend thinking of you. Cheers!

DMC
07-19-2020, 09:56 PM
You spend way more time thinking of me than I spend thinking of you. Cheers!

Odd you keep following me around multiposting at me.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 09:57 PM
I'm sorry, who posted first here and who's stalking whom?

Gaslightin' DMC

DMC
07-19-2020, 10:00 PM
I'm sorry, who posted first here and who's stalking whom?

Gaslightin' DMC

Pray for the ICU in McAllen.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 10:02 PM
Pray for the ICU in McAllen.Prayin for all of Texas and the whole USA. It can't hurt.

ElNono
07-19-2020, 10:35 PM
Sure, you can point to Baltimore, Detroit, St Louis, New Orleans and a few other cities as well. MSM focuses on Chicago because of the number of shootings even if most of them don't lead to deaths. Waving it off it as in-fighting is as racist and dismissive as anything I've seen.

I would actually point out that the vast majority of MSM doesn't focus on Chicago. It has more or less become a fixation of the red team as some sort of finger pointing towards liberals, which is actually fairly disingenuous when one actually looks at national homicide rates.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2020, 11:04 PM
DMC understands the whataboutism more than anyone.

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 11:06 PM
I would actually point out that the vast majority of MSM doesn't focus on Chicago. It has more or less become a fixation of the red team as some sort of finger pointing towards liberals, which is actually fairly disingenuous when one actually looks at national homicide rates.

Yea, the MSM like to ignore real problems. Thanks for pointing that out. :tu

DMC
07-19-2020, 11:13 PM
I would actually point out that the vast majority of MSM doesn't focus on Chicago. It has more or less become a fixation of the red team as some sort of finger pointing towards liberals, which is actually fairly disingenuous when one actually looks at national homicide rates.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/chicago-shootings-weekend/index.html

Spurtacular
07-19-2020, 11:16 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/chicago-shootings-weekend/index.html

:lol

ducks
07-19-2020, 11:20 PM
Yep trump started the killing in Chicago
No one was killed in that city before he was sworn in as president

ElNono
07-19-2020, 11:37 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/chicago-shootings-weekend/index.html

CNN reports the news... I don't think it contradicts anything I've said.

The OP in this thread is actually a fairly great example of what I'm talking about, tbh...

ElNono
07-19-2020, 11:37 PM
Just look at post #2 ITT... textbook example.

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 11:39 PM
Lol discovering the op on the last page.

DerpMC

ElNono
07-19-2020, 11:39 PM
Yea, the MSM like to ignore real problems. Thanks for pointing that out. :tu


:lol

:lol

Winehole23
07-19-2020, 11:41 PM
Really, DMC, your shit has never been so weak.

You slippin'.

Winehole23
07-20-2020, 12:04 AM
White knighting ducks in openly racist stereotypes, what have you come to? :lol

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 12:19 AM
:lol

CNN print articles and CNN TV have different coverage values.

You were wrong and right and :lol worthy in both cases. :lol

DMC
07-20-2020, 12:20 AM
CNN reports the news... I don't think it contradicts anything I've said.

The OP in this thread is actually a fairly great example of what I'm talking about, tbh...

You said red team. CNN is hardly the red team. Why is it newsworthy over shootings in other cities?

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 12:20 AM
Really, DMC, your shit has never been so weak.

You slippin'.

Someone's still butthurt about their fake news video being called out. :lmao

DMC
07-20-2020, 12:22 AM
Someone's still butthurt about their fake news video being called out. :lmao

Maybe WH can blow goats for a nickel a herd to get some dignity back.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 12:34 AM
You said red team. CNN is hardly the red team. Why is it newsworthy over shootings in other cities?

I said red team likes to use it to point fingers to liberals... again, the first two posts in this thread are a great example...

CNN reports gun shooting in all sorts of cities... they're newsworthy. See:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/homicides-shootings-spike-us-cities/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/kansas-city-shooting/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/15/us/jersey-city-shooting-related-arrest/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/us/utah-shooting/index.html

ElNono
07-20-2020, 12:35 AM
CNN print articles and CNN TV have different coverage values.

You were wrong and right and :lol worthy in both cases. :lol

:lol You can't say the MSM doesn't report then laugh at the MSM reporting it... pick a lane.

DMC
07-20-2020, 12:38 AM
I said red team likes to use it to point fingers to liberals... again, the first two posts in this thread are a great example...

CNN reports gun shooting in all sorts of cities... they're newsworthy. See:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/homicides-shootings-spike-us-cities/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/kansas-city-shooting/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/15/us/jersey-city-shooting-related-arrest/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/us/utah-shooting/index.html

You said "fixation of the red team". That's quite different than saying they like to use stories from left leaning MSM to point fingers at whatever they are pointing fingers at. It seem they are saying Chicago is being ignored because it's the Flowers in the Attic of the Left.

Are you saying Chicago isn't a big deal and the right is just making a big deal of it because... ? Jersey is a democrat run city as well as is Baltimore. Why Chicago?

ElNono
07-20-2020, 12:41 AM
Are you saying Chicago isn't a big deal and the right is just making a big deal of it because... ? Jersey is a democrat run city as well as is Baltimore. Why Chicago?

I said Illinois, which includes Chicago, should strive to be better than #10 in homicides, tbh...

So I'm saying it's disingenuous to single it out to point at blue politics, considering the top 7 or so States with the higher homicide per capita are red states.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 12:44 AM
You said "fixation of the red team". That's quite different than saying they like to use stories from left leaning MSM to point fingers at whatever they are pointing fingers at. It seem they are saying Chicago is being ignored because it's the Flowers in the Attic of the Left.

It's is indeed a fixation. Whenever you bring any kind of conversation about black people and black culture, the "but Chicago" card is inevitably played. ie: this POTUS has used it extensively, I'm sure you can google his tweets, they're not hard to find.

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 12:44 AM
You said "fixation of the red team". That's quite different than saying they like to use stories from left leaning MSM to point fingers at whatever they are pointing fingers at. It seem they are saying Chicago is being ignored because it's the Flowers in the Attic of the Left.

Are you saying Chicago isn't a big deal and the right is just making a big deal of it because... ? Jersey is a democrat run city as well as is Baltimore. Why Chicago?Baltimore was cited heavily by Trump and his supporters when Black Congressman got uppity.

Black President is from Chicago. No Trump supporter ever forgets Black President.

DMC
07-20-2020, 12:46 AM
It's is indeed a fixation. Whenever you bring any kind of conversation about black people and black culture, the "but Chicago" card is inevitably played. ie: this POTUS has used it extensively, I'm sure you can google his tweets, they're not hard to find.

Maybe because if you're not concerned with the slaughter of black children in Chicago, it's a hard sell that you're concerned about the death of one old black man in Minnesota.

DMC
07-20-2020, 12:48 AM
Baltimore was cited heavily by Trump and his supporters when Black Congressman got uppity.

Black President is from Chicago. No Trump supporter ever forgets Black President.

Do you want people to forget Chicago?

ElNono
07-20-2020, 12:49 AM
And I concur what happens in Chicago is serious and merits a serious discussion. So does the high levels of homicides in Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama...

But there appears to be little interest in a serious discussion, it's more about ankle-biting...

ElNono
07-20-2020, 12:50 AM
Maybe because if you're not concerned with the slaughter of black children in Chicago, it's a hard sell that you're concerned about the death of one old black man in Minnesota.

See my previous post. I think it does merit a serious discussion. The problem is that Chicago is not generally brought up for a serious discussion on crime, but as a way to point fingers, which is truly sad.

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 12:53 AM
:lol You can't say the MSM doesn't report then laugh at the MSM reporting it... pick a lane.

The Chump strategy; ignoring Nuance. Bold move.

MSM cable news gonna ignore it. You were right.
MSM print news covering it. :lol cos you still said MSM ignoring it.

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 12:59 AM
Do you want people to forget Chicago?Let's not introduce straw men in here.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 01:14 AM
The Chump strategy; ignoring Nuance. Bold move.

MSM cable news gonna ignore it. You were right.
MSM print news covering it. :lol cos you still said MSM ignoring it.

You said the MSM doesn't report it... pick a lane...

And no, I said the MSM doesn't focus on it...

lol @ nuance...

ElNono
07-20-2020, 01:15 AM
Except Fox News, obviously...

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:16 AM
But Chicago!

ElNono
07-20-2020, 01:18 AM
But Chicago!

Exactly.

And it's a shame, because it dilutes from actual conversation about policing, gun control, criminal justice reform, etc.

clambake
07-20-2020, 01:21 AM
Desperation from Lilly white guys is funny.

ChumpDumper
07-20-2020, 01:24 AM
Desperation from Lilly white guys is funny.:lol They're actually wondering why they have continually brought up Chicago for the last 12 years.

clambake
07-20-2020, 01:25 AM
They’re thinking orange man is their spinach.

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:26 AM
Exactly.

And it's a shame, because it dilutes from actual conversation about policing, gun control, criminal justice reform, etc.

Yeah it's such a phony concern they have. The only reason they bleat about Chicago is to slam on "evil Dem mayors" who've let lawlessness grip the city. Chicago has an uptick the past few years, but they were trending at historical lows before then.

https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-03-at-5.46.24-PM.png

What's the reason for the exponential uptick? I'm going to guess the Fentanyl trade has gotten a lot more competitive.

Bit of correlation there (obviously more overdoses means more use more sales more market share to fight over for gang member dealers).

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/idK2rXPayD4s/v0/1200x-1.png

Trump was supposed to do something about the opioid crisis. What happened?

ElNono
07-20-2020, 01:33 AM
The amount of shootings and homicides are concerning. Certainly in Chicago, and elsewhere there's a high homicide rate.

It's really unfortunate it has largely turned into a political gotcha game, because it's a serious problem that merits serious discussion.

FrostKing
07-20-2020, 01:35 AM
Chicago is only 30% black. This is a reflection on their culture.

midnightpulp
07-20-2020, 01:42 AM
The amount of shootings and homicides are concerning. Certainly in Chicago, and elsewhere there's a high homicide rate.

It's really unfortunate it has largely turned into a political gotcha game, because it's a serious problem that merits serious discussion.

opioids are trending to become the new crack epidemic. Where there's a high demand for drugs, there's a market to fight over, opioids have the highest demand of any drug probably since crack. The way you reduce the demand is through creating less customers, and that means education, outreach programs, and other social programs. Nancy Reagan's DARE gets a lot of shit, but I think it was useful in scaring a lot of my generation straight. The crack epidemic started to wind down when we became teens in the mid-90s.


Embraced by one generation, crack was spurned by the next. The level of crack use has remained steady for more than a decade.

According to an annual survey of drug use among people who are arrested, 35.7 percent of all males over 36 years old who were arrested in New York last year had used crack recently, but barely 4 percent of those 15 to 20 years old had used it.

Article was written in 1999. https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/19/us/crack-s-legacy-a-special-report-a-drug-ran-its-course-then-hid-with-its-users.html

ducks
07-20-2020, 02:08 PM
Trump vows to send feds into cities facing violence, as DHS reportedly drafts Chicago deployment plan

Blake
07-20-2020, 02:12 PM
Trump vows to send feds into cities facing violence, as DHS reportedly drafts Chicago deployment plan

Lol more broken vows coming soon

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 02:46 PM
I said the MSM doesn't focus on it...

And I agree with that. No money in the dead poor black people they're constantly crying for supposedly.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 03:30 PM
And I agree with that. No money in the dead poor black people they're constantly crying for supposedly.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You don't care about dead poor black people either, you've made that much clear, you just use it as a crutch to attack either libs or the MSM (which, in your view, are largely one and the same).

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 04:30 PM
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You don't care about dead poor black people either, you've made that much clear, you just use it as a crutch to attack either libs or the MSM (which, in your view, are largely one and the same).

You need that whataboutism to write off your failure, badly.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 04:44 PM
You need that whataboutism to write off your failure, badly.

Where's the whataboutism? And how is it 'my' failure?

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 05:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA1IfmSa8zQ

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 05:03 PM
Where's the whataboutism? And how is it 'my' failure?

You need to make the Chicago failure relative to people with relatively little vested interest in it.
If I were in Chicago, that would not be an acceptable response to me.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 05:47 PM
You need to make the Chicago failure relative to people with relatively little vested interest in it.
If I were in Chicago, that would not be an acceptable response to me.

Which 'people with relatively little vested interest in it' I pointed fingers to? Where's the whataboutism?

You or I not being in Chicago doesn't make the problem any less important or interesting, since this problematic is far from being exclusive to Chicago.

We should be bringing up Chicago when we want to discuss criminal justice reform, gun control, policing...

Instead it's seemingly constantly surfaced as a crutch to advance some political beef, but there's little to no discussion of what the solutions would look like.

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 06:01 PM
Which 'people with relatively little vested interest in it' I pointed fingers to? Where's the whataboutism?

You or I not being in Chicago doesn't make the problem any less important or interesting, since this problematic is far from being exclusive to Chicago.

We should be bringing up Chicago when we want to discuss criminal justice reform, gun control, policing...

Instead it's seemingly constantly surfaced as a crutch to advance some political beef, but there's little to no discussion of what the solutions would look like.

On a macro level, this is their local leaders failing them. Then their state leaders failing them. And sure you can even find failures on the federal level; but the buck stops well before that. You need to stop desperately trying to pass that buck.

ElNono
07-20-2020, 07:45 PM
On a macro level, this is their local leaders failing them. Then their state leaders failing them. And sure you can even find failures on the federal level; but the buck stops well before that. You need to stop desperately trying to pass that buck.

How could I be passing the buck when it's you that's pointing fingers, not me?

Lazily pointing fingers is easy, actually discussing, attacking the problem and coming up with solutions, not so much.

Spurtacular
07-20-2020, 08:16 PM
How could I be passing the buck when it's you that's pointing fingers, not me?

Lazily pointing fingers is easy, actually discussing, attacking the problem and coming up with solutions, not so much.

Who's primarily at fault?

ElNono
07-20-2020, 08:28 PM
Who's primarily at fault?

People that use this as partisan talking points instead of addressing it for the real problem it is?

ducks
07-21-2020, 12:11 PM
Trump Sending 150 Federal Agents to Chicago

spurraider21
07-21-2020, 12:15 PM
Trump Sending 150 Gestapo Agents to Chicago

SpursforSix
07-21-2020, 12:18 PM
Trump Sending 150 Federal Agents to Chicago

Ducks peeing in front of kids.

SpursforSix
07-21-2020, 12:21 PM
so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

TSA
07-21-2020, 10:43 PM
At Least 14 People Wounded In Mass Shooting Outside Funeral In Auburn Gresham

:lol but Chicago!

spurraider21
07-21-2020, 10:48 PM
hilarious!

midnightpulp
07-21-2020, 11:41 PM
At Least 14 People Wounded In Mass Shooting Outside Funeral In Auburn Gresham

:lol but Chicago!

You know the Chicago deflection is disingenuous for the purpose of criticizing Black Lives Matter. "Well, IF Black Lives really mattered why aren't they calling out what is happening in Chicago!" Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of gang members shooting each other over drug dealing territory are really going to listen to a bunch of blue haired college kids and Al Sharpton.

We know the solutions to gang violence. You reduce the drug market in some way, either through anti-drug education, social programs, prohibition repeal (i.e. gang violence in the prohibition era dropped like a rock after booze was legalized againt), and rehabilitation. It's not that much of a coincidence Chicago's murder rate grew along with Fentanyl use.

pgardn
07-21-2020, 11:46 PM
At Least 14 People Wounded In Mass Shooting Outside Funeral In Auburn Gresham

:lol but Chicago!

You really should use malaria if you are looking for massive numbers of deaths.
Guess other countries don’t count. Keep America great.
And mostly people with dark skin die of malaria (tropical disease don’t cha know) so you got the skin color thing as well.

In think this ensemble will fit you well, wear it.

Winehole23
07-21-2020, 11:57 PM
hilarious!TSA gloating over a mass shooting like he just scored a touchdown.

It's so convincing when conservatives prop themselves up on dead black bodies to tease liberals.

Sounds like police failed to protect pubic safety after the public asked for help.

FrostKing
07-22-2020, 05:23 PM
You know the Chicago deflection is disingenuous for the purpose of criticizing Black Lives Matter. "Well, IF Black Lives really mattered why aren't they calling out what is happening in Chicago!" Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of gang members shooting each other over drug dealing territory are really going to listen to a bunch of blue haired college kids and Al Sharpton.

We know the solutions to gang violence. You reduce the drug market in some way, either through anti-drug education, social programs, prohibition repeal (i.e. gang violence in the prohibition era dropped like a rock after booze was legalized againt), and rehabilitation. It's not that much of a coincidence Chicago's murder rate grew along with Fentanyl use.
The slogan "Black Lives Matter" is a genius one meant to downplay their overall intentions and successfully does so in nearly every instance except black on black crime. The only one I can think of.

If Democrats were wise they would use Chicago as an example of why the 2nd Amendment should be changed but at the moment they prefer to avoid all mention of Chicago's existence.

ducks
07-22-2020, 05:26 PM
lol gun sells are thru the roof thanks to threats of defunding police!

ducks
07-22-2020, 07:08 PM
To put things in perspective, there have been more people murdered in Chicago in 2020 than American Service Members killed during the Gulf War.

FrostKing
07-22-2020, 10:06 PM
https://i.ibb.co/MNK2Wwm/68078-1.png

Spurtacular
07-24-2020, 01:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7H8AIFlVhc