COVID-19 Death per 1M Population

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/Fmx7qv7.jpg

Can someone explain why these states have such a high death per 1M population ratio vs other states? (Texas is at 140)

I don't mean speculate what other states will do eventually, but why these states are so high. I have highlighted the southern states for sake of climate difference.

[Spurtacular]

INB4 the Chumpette sperm shielding / tantrums.

[SnakeBoy]

https://i.imgur.com/Fmx7qv7.jpg

Can someone explain why these states have such a high death per 1M population ratio vs other states? (Texas is at 140)

I don't mean speculate what other states will do eventually, but why these states are so high. I have highlighted the southern states for sake of climate difference.

Unless a vaccine comes to the rescue it will all average out by the time 50-60% of the population gets infected

[midnightpulp]

https://i.imgur.com/Fmx7qv7.jpg

Can someone explain why these states have such a high death per 1M population ratio vs other states? (Texas is at 140)

I don't mean speculate what other states will do eventually, but why these states are so high. I have highlighted the southern states for sake of climate difference.

You actually interested in discussion or is this a veiled swipe at the "evil blue states?"

[DarrinS]

It's because republicans are terrible and democrats are awesome

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/provincial

[DMC]

You actually interested in discussion or is this a veiled swipe at the "evil blue states?"

Actual discussion.

Obviously not solely climate related. Did people from NY infect these other states?

[DMC]

Unless a vaccine comes to the rescue it will all average out by the time 50-60% of the population gets infected

"I don't mean speculate what other states will do eventually,"

[TheGreatYacht]

INB4 the Chumpette sperm shielding / tantrums.

DMC and SnakeBoy believe in the Coronahoax. Waste of time thread.

[midnightpulp]

Actual discussion.

Obviously not solely climate related. Did people from NY infect these other states?

Here's a thread I made a few months ago that was hopeful warm weather states wouldn't suffer anywhere near as bad as NY and other states in that green climate band.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284293

You'll see that NY has a 7.5x higher incidence of flu infections. This suggests that citizens in NY are more susceptible to respiratory illnesses, likely due to climate factors and a more congested population density.

Now if the warm weather theory is true, why are these warm weather states experiencing their biggest outbreaks in the summer months? I think it's because the much hotter weather is driving more people indoors into air conditioned environments, and studies have shown covid likes air conditioned environments.


We conclude that in this outbreak, droplet transmission was prompted by air-conditioned ventilation. The key factor for infection was the direction of the airflow. Of note, patient B3 was afebrile and 1% of the patients in this outbreak were asymptomatic, providing a potential source of outbreaks among the public (7,8). To prevent spread of COVID-19 in restaurants, we recommend strengthening temperature-monitoring surveillance, increasing the distance between tables, and improving ventilation.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article

The area where this office in Korea saw the most infected was in the firing line of the air conditioning's airflow.

https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korean-call-center-covid-19-outbreak-seating-chart-2020-4
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/06/air-conditioning-may-be-factor-in-covid-19-spread-in-the-south/

We can discount the nursing home deaths, and these cold weather states with a somewhat high population density will suffer more cases and thus deaths than warm weather states. Also, these states count deaths differently. NY counts probables, while the southern states count only positives. I think California also counts confirmed, since we're a bit high on excess deaths over this period.

[tholdren]

You actually interested in discussion or is this a veiled swipe at the "evil blue states?"

Half have been ltc facility deaths in Mississippi

[SnakeBoy]

DMC and SnakeBoy believe in the Coronahoax. Waste of time thread.

I have a tendency to believe in viruses that have made me sick

Crazy I know

[tholdren]

Almost as many 90+ deaths is Mississippi 184

Than 0 -60 = 214

Looks like about 0 had 0 underlying conditions

Almost

[tholdren]

Almost as many 90+ deaths is Mississippi 184

Than 0 -60 = 214

Looks like about 0 had 0 underlying conditions

Almost

[Spurtacular]

I have a tendency to believe in viruses that have made me sick

Crazy I know

You had the common cold. Come to terms.

[baseline bum]

Unless a vaccine comes to the rescue it will all average out by the time 50-60% of the population gets infected

You think so? Even with no Cuomo nursing home order, no let's put everyone with low blood oxygen on a vent, and with dexamethasone and remedesivir? And with other states not counting probables like New York did?

[DMC]

Here's a thread I made a few months ago that was hopeful warm weather states wouldn't suffer anywhere near as bad as NY and other states in that green climate band.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284293

You'll see that NY has a 7.5x higher incidence of flu infections. This suggests that citizens in NY are more susceptible to respiratory illnesses, likely due to climate factors and a more congested population density.

Now if the warm weather theory is true, why are these warm weather states experiencing their biggest outbreaks in the summer months? I think it's because the much hotter weather is driving more people indoors into air conditioned environments, and studies have shown covid likes air conditioned environments.



https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article

The area where this office in Korea saw the most infected was in the firing line of the air conditioning's airflow.

https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korean-call-center-covid-19-outbreak-seating-chart-2020-4
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/06/air-conditioning-may-be-factor-in-covid-19-spread-in-the-south/

We can discount the nursing home deaths, and these cold weather states with a somewhat high population density will suffer more cases and thus deaths than warm weather states. Also, these states count deaths differently. NY counts probables, while the southern states count only positives. I think California also counts confirmed, since we're a bit high on excess deaths over this period.

NY and NJ are obvious. Why the others? Boston is ranked like 51 in population density. Why is Mass so high on the list? What about DC and Maryland? People fleeing NY infected these areas?

Are you saying NY is fudging their numbers?

[midnightpulp]

NY and NJ are obvious. Why the others? Boston is ranked like 51 in population density. Why is Mass so high on the list? What about DC and Maryland? People fleeing NY infected these areas?

Are you saying NY is fudging their numbers?

Mass is the 5th most dense state in the US. DC is the most dense area in the US.

And look at the deaths outside of New York city.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

I mean, maybe fleeing New Yorkers triggered outbreaks in those states, but I don't think there's evidence of that. Mass had its first confirmed case a month before New York. Traveler from Wuhan.

[Spurtacular]

You think so? Even with no Cuomo nursing home order, no let's put everyone with low blood oxygen on a vent, and with dexamethasone and remedesivir? And with other states not counting probables like New York did?

:lol "probables"
:lol :cry muh inflated numbers for Zombie Rapist :cry

[spurraider21]

You actually interested in discussion or is this a veiled swipe at the "evil blue states?"


It's because republicans are terrible and democrats are awesome

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/provincial
:lol

[Spurtacular]

Mass is the 5th most dense state in the US. DC is the most dense area in the US.

And look at the deaths outside of New York city.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

I mean, maybe fleeing New Yorkers triggered outbreaks in those states, but I don't think there's evidence of that. Mass had its first confirmed case a month before New York. Traveler from Wuhan.

Oh, it spreads when people herd together now?

What's the COVID damage from the protests / riots?

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719)

[tholdren]

Lockdowns unnecessary

https://healthcostinstitute.org/hcci-research/daily-deaths-during-coronavirus-pandemic-by-state

[ChumpDumper]

All the northeast states are along the same megalopolis from DC to Boston. It's not surprising that all the international entries and travel in the region, states and cities could make the virus hit all these places early and hard almost simultaneously.

[DMC]

Mass is the 5th most dense state in the US. DC is the most dense area in the US.

And look at the deaths outside of New York city.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

I mean, maybe fleeing New Yorkers triggered outbreaks in those states, but I don't think there's evidence of that. Mass had its first confirmed case a month before New York. Traveler from Wuhan.
DC has a pop density 10x that of New Jersey but their deaths per 1M is less than half. Doesn't seem to jibe with the population density thing.

[midnightpulp]

DC has a pop density 10x that of New Jersey but their deaths per 1M is less than half. Doesn't seem to jibe with the population density thing.

There's other factors beside pop density, though. It is one of the driving factors, though. Maybe DC, being the capital, mitigated better to protect all the thieving politicians who live there. Maybe they have a healthier population.

[ChumpDumper]

DC has a pop density 10x that of New Jersey but their deaths per 1M is less than half. Doesn't seem to jibe with the population density thing.Might have been easier for the residents to mitigate if a lot of the commuters from VA and MD were working from home.

[midnightpulp]

Lockdowns unnecessary

https://healthcostinstitute.org/hcci-research/daily-deaths-during-coronavirus-pandemic-by-state

CDC has lag time up to 8 weeks. You guys fall for this all the time.

https://i.imgur.com/9TUSz14.png

[RandomGuy]

https://i.imgur.com/Fmx7qv7.jpg

Can someone explain why these states have such a high death per 1M population ratio vs other states? (Texas is at 140)

I don't mean speculate what other states will do eventually, but why these states are so high. I have highlighted the southern states for sake of climate difference.

Better question: why are the other so low?

Not all states have had their first wave. Ones that have yet to experience widespread incidence will obviously be lower. Over time this will change as other states "catch up"

Texas does not count "probable". Other stats may or may not count that. Texas actual rate of the death will be at least twice what its report official tally is for that reason.

This isn't difficult. Over time most states will see rates fall closer and closer to the mean, which will go up as states experience their initial outbreaks. We are getting better at treating, so one would expect the follow ons to have lower incidence of fatalities, all things equal.

[RandomGuy]

CDC has lag time up to 8 weeks. You guys fall for this all the time.

https://i.imgur.com/9TUSz14.png

CDC lag time is going to be jack because the Trump administration took the data. Because... reasons.

[DMC]

Better question: why are the other so low?

Not all states have had their first wave. Ones that have yet to experience widespread incidence will obviously be lower. Over time this will change as other states "catch up"

Texas does not count "probable". Other stats may or may not count that. Texas actual rate of the death will be at least twice what its report official tally is for that reason.

This isn't difficult. Over time most states will see rates fall closer and closer to the mean, which will go up as states experience their initial outbreaks. We are getting better at treating, so one would expect the follow ons to have lower incidence of fatalities, all things equal.

Speculation. I knew some would do this and this isn't what I was asking.

Do you think the other states have low deaths per population? You don't think it's population density?

So you know all the probables and that they double the count if actually counted as positives?

[tholdren]

CDC has lag time up to 8 weeks. You guys fall for this all the time.

https://i.imgur.com/9TUSz14.png

You not understanding charts and comparing two completely different concepts. You always fall for that.

[tholdren]

CDC lag time is going to be jack because the Trump administration took the data. Because... reasons.

Neayahahhahahshsshshshsshsshsjshshshshdjdhdjdjdhdh dhdjd

Lolololololololololplolllollplll

[midnightpulp]

You not understanding charts and comparing two completely different concepts. You always fall for that.

Nope. That's you at week 11 crowing about how excess deaths have returned to normal. They haven't. The data just hasn't come in yet.

[tholdren]

Nope. That's you at week 11 crowing about how excess deaths have returned to normal. They haven't. The data just hasn't come in yet.

lololol you cant even make an argument with your post because its so out of context with the original chart.


All cause death. Per day.

Then you respond with a flu pneumonia weekly fatality chart when you know that the definition of a covid fatality. Your response is laughable and weak minded.

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[RandomGuy]

Speculation. I knew some would do this and this isn't what I was asking.

So you didn't really want an answer. Got it.

It only "speculation" if you dont' understand how time works. You people seem to have a problem with that these days. :lol

[midnightpulp]

lololol you cant even make an argument with your post because its so out of context with the original chart.


All cause death. Per day.

Then you respond with a flu pneumonia weekly fatality chart when you know that the definition of a covid fatality. Your response is laughable and weak minded.

I posted the pneumonia deaths to show an example of the CDC's lagged data. It works for those deaths just as it does for deaths from all causes.

[tholdren]

I posted the pneumonia deaths to show an example of the CDC's lagged data. It works for those deaths just as it does for deaths from all causes.

That has nothing to do with the chart. Which you have continued to show you dont understand. Moreover you lecturing me about lag? Lol how obtuse

[tholdren]

This is a concern

The US Food and Drug Administration on Saturday announced it has issued an emergency use authorization that allows the laboratory Quest Diagnostics to pool samples from up to four individuals to test for Covid-19

In late June, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the White House Coronavirus Task Force was "seriously considering" pool testing as a new strategy to improve testing as the US experienced a surge in Covid-19 cases


This no good

[midnightpulp]

This is a concern

The US Food and Drug Administration on Saturday announced it has issued an emergency use authorization that allows the laboratory Quest Diagnostics to pool samples from up to four individuals to test for Covid-19

In late June, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the White House Coronavirus Task Force was "seriously considering" pool testing as a new strategy to improve testing as the US experienced a surge in Covid-19 cases


This no good

What's your issue with pool testing? Afraid it'll catch more infected thus driving up the daily case count, which thus gives lockdowns more justification. That's it, aint' it?

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh, it spreads when people herd together now?

What's the COVID damage from the protests / riots?

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719)

https://i.ibb.co/PNjP62x/FB-IMG-1594059744145.jpg

[Blake]

Better question: why are the other so low?

Not all states have had their first wave. Ones that have yet to experience widespread incidence will obviously be lower. Over time this will change as other states "catch up"

Texas does not count "probable". Other stats may or may not count that. Texas actual rate of the death will be at least twice what its report official tally is for that reason.

This isn't difficult. Over time most states will see rates fall closer and closer to the mean, which will go up as states experience their initial outbreaks. We are getting better at treating, so one would expect the follow ons to have lower incidence of fatalities, all things equal.

Good post.

Also more younger people are testing positive now than at the onset

But these politicians and karens will always point at New York. Always.

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/PNjP62x/FB-IMG-1594059744145.jpg

Those aren't facts. Stop lying in these threads just to win the internets.

[boutons_deux]

Are the MS and LA rates broken down by race?

Since those Confederate racist states have significant black populations, often rural and poor.

Blacks and Hispanics are dying a higher rates than whites nationwide.

In MS and LA, the white health care system would be, has been, will always be providing inferior health care to non-whites, so higher death rates, all causes

[Spurtacular]

Those aren't facts. Stop lying in these threads just to win the internets.

It hurt your feelings, didn't it, blerp?

[DMC]

So you didn't really want an answer. Got it.

It only "speculation" if you dont' understand how time works. You people seem to have a problem with that these days. :lol

I didn't want prediction based answers about the other side of the coin. Predictions are always speculation.

[DMC]

What's your issue with pool testing? Afraid it'll catch more infected thus driving up the daily case count, which thus gives lockdowns more justification. That's it, aint' it?

Diluted sample means higher false negatives.

[RandomGuy]

https://i.imgur.com/Fmx7qv7.jpg

Can someone explain why these states have such a high death per 1M population ratio vs other states? (Texas is at 140)

I don't mean speculate what other states will do eventually, but why these states are so high. I have highlighted the southern states for sake of climate difference.

Texas doesn't count probable, NY does.

Add in probable so that data is comparable, what is Texas? Where will Texas be in one month?

[DMC]

Texas doesn't count probable, NY does.

Add in probable so that data is comparable, what is Texas? Where will Texas be in one month?

Again, how do you know this to be true if probables aren't counted?

[tholdren]

What's your issue with pool testing? Afraid it'll catch more infected thus driving up the daily case count, which thus gives lockdowns more justification. That's it, aint' it?

lockdowns will never be justified. Go back and look at the all cause fatality chart, look at the unemployment rate, and there will be thousands of lockdown issues that arise for years in terms of health.

And if you are too incompetent to understand why this is a problem, you may want to consider not posting any more gossip.

[tholdren]

Texas doesn't count probable, NY does.

Add in probable so that data is comparable, what is Texas? Where will Texas be in one month?

They are all probable if they didn't die from covid. This is the concept

[tholdren]

loloololI'llol

RandomGuy still doesn't know how deaths are attributed just like midnightpulp.

Go to cdc read definition of a case.

[tholdren]

You can be a case with no tests or no symptoms. If you are a case and you die. You are a covid death. How can you be this far behind the understanding of how cases and deaths are counted and try to argue any concept?

[tholdren]

Lol midnightpulp said the same thing about fl



They don't count probable deaths... lol yes they do, because you dont have to have anything to be a case...


Lololo

Midnightpulp

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[baseline bum]

Still no numbers from foldren

[tholdren]

Still no numbers from foldren

I've already given them. After months of explaining to you that covid deaths don't even have to have symptoms you still post the same numbers.

Keep proceeding

[ChumpDumper]

I've already given them.Wrong.

[tholdren]

Wrong.

Sea lion

[tholdren]

midnightpulp MIA

[baseline bum]

I've already given them. After months of explaining to you that covid deaths don't even have to have symptoms you still post the same numbers.

Keep proceeding

lol lies from boomer covid truther

[tholdren]

lol lies from boomer covid truther

Nope, I've given you the math numerous times. You just don't know how to use it. Keep proceeding with your overcounts

[baseline bum]

Nope, I've given you the math numerous times. You just don't know how to use it. Keep proceeding with your overcounts

chump has been asking for your math for a couple of weeks now son

[ChumpDumper]

Sea lionSerial liar.

[tholdren]

Serial liar.

I've already given it to him. He just sea lions and changes subjects. Yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

I've already given it to him. He just sea lions and changes subjects. Yes or no?No.

You've never given any numbers.

You can't show your math.

That's how we know you're lying.

[tholdren]

No.

You've never given any numbers.

You can't show your math.

That's how we know you're lying.

No.
I have
Thats your assumption.

Pretty much all

[ChumpDumper]

No.
I haveWrong.

A person using science would never refuse to post accurate numbers he claims to have.

You refuse.

You aren't using science.

[tholdren]

Wrong.

Is it exhausting to be wrong about everything covid?

You have literally said multiple different states would be out of hospital capacity. And that has not happened. Even in ny. Where the govt killed more people than covid.

The funny thing is. You hate trunp, yet he basically quoted a math principle when he's said the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease.

Not sure if you just triggered because hes been more correct than you. And you said he alone is responsible.

Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Is it exhausting to be wrong about everything covid?You tell me. In the beginning you said it was the flu then hid in your bunker for three months when you were proved wrong.

Few people in ST history have been as wrong as you are when you say COVID-19 is the flu.

You've been trying to distract people from that ever since but you'll never escape the stink of your failure.

All anyone has to do is ask you to prove whatever you're saying and you foldren.

lol

[tholdren]

You tell me. In the beginning you said it was the flu then hid in your bunker for three months when you were proved wrong.

Few people have been as wrong as you are when you said COVID-19 is the flu.

You've been trying to distract people from that ever since but you'll never escape the stink of your failure.

All anyone has to do is ask you to prove whatever you're saying and you foldren.

lol

so you responded with a lie and hyperbole?

Lol

Covid ifr less than flu for the demos I listed at the beginning and have been proven correct each and every day.

Keep on lioning

[ChumpDumper]

ifr less than flu for the demos I listed at the beginning and have been proven correct each and every day. No, you called it the flu. Period. No demos. No conditions.

You've been trying to move the goalpost ever since.

And failing.

A scientist would acknowledge the initial error.

You haven't.

Admit you were wrong and we can proceed with a clean slate as long as you promise to quit lying about everything.

[tholdren]

No, you called it the flu. Period. No demos. No conditions.

You've been trying to move the goalpost ever since.

And failing.

A scientist would acknowledge the initial error.

You haven't.

Admit you were wrong and we can proceed with a clean slate as long as you promise to quit lying about everything.

First is a lie. Already explained the demos. I originally started with 80 should have said 70. Ifr less than flu for workign population and younger. Facts be facts.

[ChumpDumper]

First is a lie. Already explained the demos. I originally started with 80 should have said 70. Ifr less than flu for workign population and younger. Facts be facts.Those are your goalpost moves.

You need to apologize for calling it the flu.

[Blake]

midnightpulp MIA

Like your math

[Blake]

No.
I have
Thats your assumption.

Pretty much all

Why won't you give your numbers again? Are you just here to troll?

[tholdren]

Is it exhausting to be wrong about everything covid?

You have literally said multiple different states would be out of hospital capacity. And that has not happened. Even in ny. Where the govt killed more people than covid.

The funny thing is. You hate trunp, yet he basically quoted a math principle when he's said the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease.

Not sure if you just triggered because hes been more correct than you. And you said he alone is responsible.

Lol

chumpdump couldn't respond except with a lie

[midnightpulp]

lockdowns will never be justified. Go back and look at the all cause fatality chart, look at the unemployment rate, and there will be thousands of lockdown issues that arise for years in terms of health.

And if you are too incompetent to understand why this is a problem, you may want to consider not posting any more gossip.

I have the all cause fatality chart. Covid was the leading driver of all cause mortality.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

Yeah, it's never been proven that recessions and depressions cause these long term health problems. Great Depression life expectancy actually ROSE.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090928172530.htm#:~:text=Life%20expectancy%20rose% 20from%2057.1,for%20whites%20and%20non%2Dwhites.

Suicides and such did not spike during the 2008 recession.

https://cdn.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/CDC-suicide-data-1999-2015.png

What fallout the pandemic may or may not have is nothing but speculation. What is actually happening is Covid is killing people and that needs to be dealt with first. You're also discounting the longterm effects of infection. Many so-called "mild cases" have lung damage, clotting, neurological damage, and so forth.

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump couldn't respond except with a lieWrong.

You called COVID-19 the flu with no qualifications.

Apologize.

[tholdren]

I have the all cause fatality chart. Covid was the leading driver of all cause mortality.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

Yeah, it's never been proven that recessions and depressions cause these long term health problems. Great Depression life expectancy actually ROSE.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090928172530.htm#:~:text=Life%20expectancy%20rose% 20from%2057.1,for%20whites%20and%20non%2Dwhites.

Suicides and such did not spike during the 2008 recession.

https://cdn.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/CDC-suicide-data-1999-2015.png

What fallout the pandemic may or may not have is nothing but speculation. What is actually happening is Covid is killing people and that needs to be dealt with first. You're also discounting the longterm effects of infection. Many so-called "mild cases" have lung damage, clotting, neurological damage, and so forth.

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.


Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread

[ChumpDumper]

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.


Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/threadYou can always tell when f:lolldren is scared.

1) He changes the subject.

2) He declares victory.

3) He desperately tries to end the discussion.

[midnightpulp]

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.


Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread

Click the first link. It shows covid caused many, many more deaths than other conditions. The lockdowns didn't cause more deaths than Covid, as you claim.

What "twitter chart?" That chart is the suicide rate over the years. See how linear the growth is? You lockdown skeptics keep claiming the suicide rate will likely soar to unprecedented levels because of the recession we're bound to be in. That didn't happen in '08-'10. No evidence that recessions or depressions will cause a dramatic spike in the suicide rate over a period of time.

[tholdren]

Click the first link. It shows covid caused many, many more deaths than other conditions. The lockdowns didn't cause more deaths than Covid, as you claim.

What "twitter chart?" That chart is the suicide rate over the years. See how linear the growth is? You lockdown skeptics keep claiming the suicide rate will likely soar to unprecedented levels because of the recession we're bound to be in. That didn't happen in '08-'10. No evidence that recessions or depressions will cause a dramatic spike in the suicide rate over a period of time.

Beahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You trying to hide because you didn't know probable deaths are tabulated by all states.

And name-calling to boot.

Loloookookk


Wrong

[ChumpDumper]

You trying to hide:lol You hid for three months.

[tholdren]

Beahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You trying to hide because you didn't know probable deaths are tabulated by all states.

And name-calling to boot.

Loloookookk


Wrong

lolooI'llolIiookikkokokk

Name calling never works

[ElNono]

:lol You hid for three months.

:lol

[tholdren]

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.


Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread
Pwned

[Blake]

:lol You hid for three months.

:lol

[DMC]

:lol

Obligatory lapdog +1

Blake you are so predictable

[Blake]

Obligatory lapdog +1

Blake you are so predictable

Says bitch on my ankle

[DMC]

https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/Screen_Shot_2020-04-13_at_10.00.13.2e16d0ba.fill-634x506_TceIO25.png

Grouping of low income people in the same dwelling seems likely.

From the website..

Tracking deaths is complicated. New York State's Department of Health only records a "confirmed" COVID death when the patient has had a positive COVID test. This may omit a large number of people who died at home, or at a hospital without a test. New York City has a different process for recording deaths. On April 14th, the NYC Department of Health began reporting "probable deaths"- people who had COVID listed as a cause of death on their death certificates, in addition to deaths of people with confirmed COVID tests. This raised the number of COVID deaths in the city by about 40%.

This still may not include all COVID deaths, as more seemingly unrelated deaths may eventually be classified as caused by COVID. From February 1 through June 13, the CDC estimates there have been about 25,000 excess deaths in the city, compared to historical averages. The graph above uses the NYS DOH number for the NYS total, and the NYC DOH numbers for the NYC totals.

On 6/30, the NYC DOH added 692 deaths to their total, consisting of city residents who had died outside NYC during the first three months of the epidemic. This shows up as small but sharp increase in the confirmed deaths line above.


/website

These outsiders who died.. were some carrying the virus to these other nearby cities?

[tholdren]

Beahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You trying to hide because you didn't know probable deaths are tabulated by all states.

And name-calling to boot.

Loloookookk


Wrong

but but but. A covid fatality can occur with no symptoms. Its counted as a covid fatality.

Midnightpulp - yeah but it's not a probable death.


Lololololll

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/64xTq62/IMG-20200721-WA0036.jpg

[DMC]

https://i.ibb.co/64xTq62/IMG-20200721-WA0036.jpg

I don't really get that

[Winehole23]

I don't really get thatyou don't have a fursona?

[DMC]

you don't have a fursona?

No idea what you're talking about.

[Spurtacular]

You actually interested in discussion or is this a veiled swipe at the "evil blue states?"

Veiled? :lol of course the bluest states are fear mongering the most.

[Winehole23]

No idea what you're talking about.oh, I thought you asked a question. was it rhetorical?

[DMC]

oh, I thought you asked a question. was it rhetorical?

You didn't quote me asking a question. Why would you think I did?