Spurs v Nets | NBA Restart Scrimmage #2 - 7/25/2020 - ⏰ 3:30pm CT

[ace3g]

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Saturday, Jul. 25, 2020 • 3:30 PM CT

The Arena (WWOS) • Orlando, FL

Local TV: YES and dark-web links

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[widowmaker]

Try surgesports.net

[jeebus]

Hopefully Savior Bryn gets more minutes.

[Russ]

It's scheduled to be on NBA League Pass on DirecTV (Channel 750). Nets Broadcast so it may be blacked out in SA.

[widowmaker]

Try surgesports.net

[Degoat]

Will hardy is suppose to coach today right?

[ace3g]

Will hardy is suppose to coach today right?

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Michael C. Wright (https://twitter.com/mikecwright)mikec (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37307)wright
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Per a source, the Spurs will have rotating head coaches during these next 3 scrimmages. Up tonight against the Bucks is Becky Hammon. On Jul. 25 against the Nets, Mitch Johnson gets the call. Will Hardy will be HC for final scrimmage on Jul. 28 against the Pacers.

[spurs10]

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Michael C. Wright (https://twitter.com/mikecwright)mikec (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37307)wright
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Per a source, the Spurs will have rotating head coaches during these next 3 scrimmages. Up tonight against the Bucks is Becky Hammon. On Jul. 25 against the Nets, Mitch Johnson gets the call. Will Hardy will be HC for final scrimmage on Jul. 28 against the Pacers. Thanks for the info as usual!!By Local TV I assume it's Orlando and there is no feed in Texas...??

[KobesAchilles]

:pop: We are going to see what our young guys have. Well we’re 0-1 with Walker starting in a scrimmage game so Bryn get your young ass in there. Also Gay and Marco are half my age and athleticism so they will get playing time over Luka and Metu

[ace3g]

Thanks for the info as usual!!By Local TV I assume it's Orlando and there is no feed in Texas...??

That is the Nets local channel, game will be on league pass if you have it, other than that - dark web is your best bet.

[Nathan89]

Bball with a side of leftist propaganda.

[BacktoBasics]

Bball with a side of leftist propaganda.

So fucking tired of reading post by assholes like you. Every forum, every thread. You couldn’t have dropped this in the other 50 or so politicized threads?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1287098233194450945

[blizz]

I’m just waiting for the “for every fast break bucket, brake check will donate $50 to black lives matter”.

[ace3g]

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Paul Garcia pAulGarciaNBA
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Coach Pop says it's "up in the air" on if Dejounte Murray will play today. He said Quinndary Weatherspoon is OUT for today's scrimmage.

[Nathan89]

So fucking tired of reading post by assholes like you. Every forum, every thread. You couldn’t have dropped this in the other 50 or so politicized threads?

It is unfortunate what sports have become.

[Joseph Kony]

It is unfortunate what sports have become.
no its unfortunate watching crybaby faggots like you bitch incessantly about it instead of just shutting the fuck up

[GB20]

Can somebody post a link for this game?

[Joseph Kony]

not gonna post the link but google "nba steams reddit" and you should find it

[Leetonidas]

Spurs look like ass so far

[Darius Bieber]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[gambit1990]

spurs playing sloppy.

[Russ]

Spurs look like ass so far

11-2 Brooklyn.

[Leetonidas]

Turnover fest down 11 to 2 already :lol. Derozan first shot is a soft jumper. That's the trash team I've missed :lol

[gambit1990]

who gets paid more to do nothing than demar?

[gambit1990]

dm if you want a link.

[Dijonaise]

who gets paid more to do nothing than demar?


One of the most overpaid in nba imo

[TXstbobcat]

not gonna post the link but google "nba steams reddit" and you should find it

thank you!! Got the game on my IPad now.

[Russ]

Walker looks nice on O awful on D.

DDR just looks awful.

[Leetonidas]

Derozan fucking sucks :lol fuck I hope he doesn't opt in

[Dejounte]

Ive been a Lonnie doubter, but we are seeing a brand new Lonnie... I hope he keeps it up

[gambit1990]

demar with his patented out of control missed layup :rolleyes:rolleyes

[gambit1990]

this team isn't for demar anymore. this needs to be the young guys' team.

[Russ]

Spurs D is forcing Nets to take outside jumpers.

[Leetonidas]

What a flop

[Leetonidas]

Whites beasting though :tu

[gambit1990]

great block by keldon and good play from DW so far.

[Dejounte]

Keldons wingspan might not be all that but his standing reach showing he can go after blocks effectively

[gambit1990]

start keldon over demar.

[Leetonidas]

Lol Meth Curry

[TXstbobcat]

Nice quarter for D White.

[Collins21]

If DeMar opts in trade Murray for a and 3 and D player and then draft anyone of the real Point Guards in this years draft.

[Dejounte]

Eubanks not looking like utter trash like in the first scrimmage so far

[gambit1990]

i honestly thought demar would be motivated.

i get that it's a scrimmage but players who are the #1, #2 option on their team shown some flashes. or at least play like they wanna be there...

[GB20]

I think keldon would be a nice player for the spurs

[Russ]

KJ has a nice defensive presence.

[Dejounte]

Good fucking defense by Keldon!

[weeks]

Derozan fucking sucks :lol fuck I hope he doesn't opt in

it's 2020. of course he will

[emanueldavidginobili]

Rudy Gay is atrocious, way out of shape as well

[SAGirl]

Gambit send me the link ;-)

[Dex]

Derozan fucking sucks :lol fuck I hope he doesn't opt in

Caps going down, he is opting in. He ain't getting that money anywhere else.

Just hope the Spurs can find a reasonable trade for him because I am so sick of him.

[Degoat]

Guys no offense but all the bitching about Demar, who cares how he does lol this Orlando restart is all about the young players and seeing their growth I could give two shits about how the vets play

[Russ]

Walker putting some effort in on D.

[Dejounte]

DERRICK WHITE MVP

[gambit1990]

white is ballin.

[Degoat]

DWhite the real mvp

[tim_duncan_fan]

Derrick White and Keldon on the court at the same time is going to be so nice once the team realizes that duo is fire. The combo of offensive and defensive ability could be huge for us.

If only we can keep White in an aggressive mindset.

[Truth4sale$]

Derrick White wasted a year sitting behind Forbes....so Sad.

[gambit1990]

pro: spurs have young bright spots on the roster
con: spurs need basically everything else

[Msirotic]

Walker,White and Keldon are engaged and playing well. Murray is really not a point guard, his handles and court vision are below average...

[gambit1990]

Back to unjustly giving times to vets like Marco over Youngsters like Keldon...
yeah, just nonsense... and didn't pop say this being developmental is the most important thing? :lol

[td4mvp2k]

ddr waste

[Dejounte]

Poop and "Coprate Knowledge" put out

RESTART is for DEVELOPMENT

POOP goes to playing washed up on their way out vets over Promising rooks ..... IN A SCRIMMAGE

How can ANY of you not conclude what a FRAUD this windbag is was and always will be... I mean one of the first things he did was drag THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS...

GTFO

Assistant coach Mitch is calling the shots in this game...

[Dex]

DeRozan is getting shown up by guys 10 years younger than him.

[gambit1990]

that shot attempt by demar to end the half says so much about him. the dude is just barely mailing it in.

i wouldn't be surprised if he had the nerve to opt in.

[Dejounte]

Im just glad DeMar isnt hogging the ball as he did in the regular season. I don't know why yall care so much about how poorly hes playing...

[SAGirl]

Just got here in time for the last posession. Too bad I missed WhiteMvP... What happened to Murray? Getting the day off?

[Dijonaise]

that shot attempt by demar to end the half says so much about him. the dude is just barely mailing it in.

i wouldn't be surprised if he had the nerve to opt in.

He's definitely opting in

[Dejounte]

During the regular season DeMar would be the defacto playmaker... Hes letting White and others handle it so far. We wouldnt be seeing this Derrick White if regular Demar was playing. Im pretty sure Mills opted out of playing so the young guys would see more playing time as well. Now if only Belinelli opted out of playing too... But Beli is a free agent so thats probably why he wants to play.

[Dejounte]

Just got here in time for the last posession. Too bad I missed WhiteMvP... What happened to Murray? Getting the day off?

Hes been playing. Had a nice euro in the first. Not shining like the others just yet...

[itzsoweezee]

that shot attempt by demar to end the half says so much about him. the dude is just barely mailing it in.

i wouldn't be surprised if he had the nerve to opt in.

He is absolutely opting in. No one is paying this guy more than $12 million per

[baseline bum]

Caps going down, he is opting in. He ain't getting that money anywhere else.

Just hope the Spurs can find a reasonable trade for him because I am so sick of him.

They're keeping the cap flat and just not letting it rise much for something like 2-3 years to make up for the lost revenue from the pandemic, with escrow percentages making up the rest of the difference. So DeRozan's actually better off just opting out and signing the long-term deal this summer if he thinks the money will be there. He'll still be whole with the base salary as opposed to having a cap drop that would slash his base salary and thus the entire contract which is based on that base salary. With New York hiring Thibedeau and presumably wanting players for now the Spurs could probably dump DePression on his ass.

[Collins21]

During the regular season DeMar would be the defacto playmaker... Hes letting White and others handle it so far. We wouldnt be seeing this Derrick White if regular Demar was playing. Im pretty sure Mills opted out of playing so the young guys would see more playing time as well. Now if only Belinelli opted out of playing too... But Beli is a free agent so thats probably why he wants to play.

Sometimes I question if any of these dudes have ever played basketball at any level. It's clear that he's letting the Young guys run the show. IF this was the regular season DeRozan would be setting up in semi transition every possession.

[SAGirl]

Hes been playing. Had a nice euro in the first. Not shining like the others just yet...
Thanks there was a comment at the beginning of the thread that he was game time decision of something can't tell if it was trolling. Really only got to see Walker draw the foul and demar's weak footer thingie. Has it been the same rotation as b4 more of less?

[alpha_HaZE]

So happy to see Spurs playing competitive B-ball thanks to Whitte, Lonnie, and Jakob. I do expect more from DJ, DeMar, and Rudy Gay!

[gambit1990]

spurs severely missed out not moving demar for westbrook. even if it meant throwing in two first round picks.

that was their escape. their most promising chance of quickly returning to relevance.

[Dejounte]

Thanks there was a comment at the beginning of the thread that he was game time decision of something can't tell if it was trolling. Really only got to see Walker draw the foul and demar's weak footer thingie. Has it been the same rotation as b4 more of less?

Its pretty much the same rotation from scrimmage game 1... Keldon didnt get into foul trouble so hes getting a BIT more minutes.

[SAGirl]

Its pretty much the same rotation from scrimmage game 1... Keldon didnt get into foul trouble so hes getting a BIT more minutes.
Thanks again.

[gambit1990]

i hope the spurs lose every game.

but even then, pop wouldn't be held accountable because la out.

[Darius Bieber]

Is Patty Mills injured? Just noticed I haven't seen either game.

[baseline bum]

At least these Spurs are competitive against a Nets team minus its three best players.

[Dejounte]

Lavert is a nice young player.

[Dejounte]

Whatever advice Tony Parker gave to Lonnie ... Its working. Dude look like an absolutely different player. These passes were non existent during the regular season.

[SAGirl]

Nice play by Walker, good assist to jakob.

[GAustex]

At least these Spurs are competitive against a Nets team minus its three best players.
Lol
Spurs competing with a so so team MISSING their 3 best players
Ladies and gents your poop led SA Spurs

[LakerHater]

That Sequence
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[SAGirl]

Murray is not having a good game from what I have seen...

[GAustex]

That Sequence
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Has DDR ever done anything like that defense?

[Leetonidas]

Demar was the signature temper tantrum technical in a scrimmage :lol

[SAGirl]

Lol
Spurs competing with a so so team MISSING their 3 best players
Ladies and gents your poop led SA Spurs
Yup have to keep in mind the competition. I am looking for any development and fresh faces like Johnson pretty much.

[SAGirl]

That Sequence
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I might use this for my signature after the game. I love your video.gifs... Good choice

[LakerHater]

Dammit Murray

[Dejounte]

Murray playing worse than DeMar. Awful garbage game from him

[Darius Bieber]

So the Nets got killed by the Pelicans by 30 the other day, yet leading the Spurs by 10 now.. God damn this team is absolute trash.

[EasyMoney]

That Sequence
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Bryn would have locked him down and done a 360 tomahawk dunk tbh

[LakerHater]

Murray careless with the damn ball :bang

[GAustex]

So the Nets got killed by the Pelicans by 30 the other day, yet leading the Spurs by 10 now.. God damn this team is absolute trash.
Ladies and gents your poop led SA Spurs

[SAGirl]

White looks really good.

[Degoat]

Guess we need more patty mills and Bryn forbes out there lol

[Dejounte]

Im so glad Bryn still isnt seeing many minutes...

[SAGirl]

Murray playing worse than DeMar. Awful garbage game from him
Yup has sucked. Horrible game from him.

[SPURt]

DD in playoff form already. I was hoping with the haircuts and America in turmoil there might be a fire in this team. But I guess this is what the Spurs have become.

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[Dancelot]

I hope DeRozen leaves in the off-season. Please!

[SAGirl]

Rudy Gay sucks tbh. Let's get Luka there since this is a scrimmage anyways

[Dancelot]

And maybe pull a George Hill with Murray

[Darius Bieber]

Get Gay out of there

[Dejounte]

God damnit Keldon, foul trouble again.

[Darius Bieber]

I swear it looks like 90% of our roster doesn't wanna play

[SAGirl]

Great job Jonhson on the drive

[SAGirl]

Rudy Gay sucking again.

[SAGirl]

Honestly play luka instead of Gay...

[SAGirl]

I thought Pop wasn't going to coach. Johnson fouling ...

[Dejounte]

I thought Pop wasn't going to coach. Johnson fouling ...

If Pop has advice for a young player, i say let him give it. Hes good at that. In game rotations, however...

[Darius Bieber]

Serious question, could this Spurs roster win the GLeague?

[tim_duncan_fan]

Serious question, could this Spurs roster win the GLeague?

Not with the coaching staff being in love with Beli and Bryn.

[Dejounte]

Killer drive by Keldon. This is what I mean when I say he has elite skill there.

[Degoat]

These fcking refs lol

[Dejounte]

Rudy Gay is seriously embarrassing

[Msirotic]

The payroll is certainly not in line with who should be on the floor... Gay, DeRozan...

[Dejounte]

How the fuck was that a foul on Johnson?

[Darius Bieber]

My stream just switched to the Yankees game? wtf

[SAGirl]

Thats a shot to the head on johnson
I saw thst... I was scared for him a little tbh

[TXstbobcat]

My stream just switched to the Yankees game? wtf

mine did that too.

[SAGirl]

My stream just switched to the Yankees game? wtf
Mine too guess therefore important things to watch in NY... Lol

[KDKSpurs24]

Rudy Gay is absolute trash! Just give his minutes to Luka At this point!

[KobesAchilles]

Who is that blonde dude with that badly waxed mustache? And why is he talking about the Yankees?

[SAGirl]

It was fun to watch.At least both teams were competing hard. I would have preferred for Rudy to sit this one out though and give a chance to Metu and Luka. Even if they sucked I think they would have tried harder to grab a rebound...???

[Degoat]

Spurs challenged the Keldon foul, they didn’t win it

[Dejounte]

Luka's body language is just bad. Probably contributes to him getting little minutes

[Degoat]

Metu doesn’t belong in the nba

[emanueldavidginobili]

What a terrible lineup lol

[Degoat]

Luka's body language is just bad. Probably contributes to him getting little minutes

I agree, like that’s what I love about Keldon he could miss every shot but he still gives 100 % effort, it looks like Luka isn’t even trying

[LakerHater]

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[tim_duncan_fan]

Why are the Spurs forcing people to watch a Bryn Forbes-lead offense?

[cool cat]

What a terrible lineup lol

I think you found the tag line for the season.

2019-2020 Spurs "What a terrible lineup"!

[Dejounte]

God i fucking hate Forbes. Taking all the fucking shots. Not even trying to look for others

[Degoat]

Luka was such a wasted pick lol

[SAGirl]

Luka's body language is just bad. Probably contributes to him getting little minutes
It's too bad my transmission cut off. Let it out. I really wanted to see him but had to boxscore the last 8 minutes or so?

[140]

losing to the zombie nets :lol spurms

[SAGirl]

Eubanks competed well. Could be a 3rd string backup for sure.

[SPURt]

I have to say, I didn’t really enjoy watching Tyler Johnson rub our 3rd stringers led by Forbes in his ample 70’s pornstar pubis.

[Truth4sale$]

Derrick White wasted a year sitting behind Forbes....so Sad.

[SPURt]

I have to say, I didn’t really enjoy watching Tyler Johnson rub our 3rd stringers led by Forbes in his ample 70’s pornstar pubis.

[Dejounte]

It's too bad my transmission cut off. Let it out. I really wanted to see him but had to boxscore the last 8 minutes or so?

He just looks like he stands there on offense and defense. Like...get in defensive stance or something. Run around more. Something.

Im not giving up on the guy like others have. Im sure the Spurs have a program for him to understand that what hes doing is unacceptable.

[Truth4sale$]

Was the 4th about winning or developing young players...because I did not see either going on

[SAGirl]

He just looks like he stands there on offense and defense. Like...get in defensive stance or something. Run around more. Something.

Im not giving up on the guy like others have. Im sure the Spurs have a program for him to understand that what hes doing is unacceptable.
Hmm thanks for the review. Some guys have talent but no drive. Another season in the gleague is all he has to get himself going. Spurs might not even pick up his option if he doesn't develop.

[SAGirl]

Derrick White wasted a year sitting behind Forbes....so Sad.
True. I think he could really help a better team. A rebuilding Spurs team? He's not that young. His prime is already here. Don't know that the Spurs will look to trade anybody but may be they can get an asset for him. I am glad he has played well.

[Spurtacular]

Spurs look like ass so far

So far? Is so far like the entire season? :lol

[Spurtacular]

Derrick White wasted a year sitting behind Forbes....so Sad.

:pop: Bryn is the next best thing to having Curry. Also, I like saying Bryn.

[LakerHater]

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[Degoat]

Team definitely misses Aldridge

[TD 21]

losing to the zombie nets :lol spurms

And still getting torched defensively despite starting 4 neutral-plus defenders and their lack of size not being an issue in this match-up.

I have no idea why they're wasting minutes on the 3 veterans. DeRozan is disinterested (good: more on ball reps for perimeter youth, bad: destroys spacing/defense) and Gay is finished. I don't care whether they've "earned it" or not, no excuse to not give more minutes to Metu and Samanic.

Murray is the least skilled starting "PG" offensively in recent memory. Even the spot up types (Fisher/Chalmers/Beverley) provide spacing.

[Robz4000]

:pop: both teams played hard

[gambit1990]

spurs should've traded for andre drummond. the cavs got him for a can of beans.

[B1gduff]

CUz he ain't worth Jackshit!

[Dejounte]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/keldon-johnson-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-drives-to-the-basket-against-picture-id1227779154?s=2048x2048

[Dejounte]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/tyler-johnson-of-the-brooklyn-nets-shoots-the-ball-against-the-san-picture-id1227779517?s=2048x2048

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/head-coach-gregg-popovich-talks-with-keldon-johnson-of-the-san-spurs-picture-id1227779235?s=2048x2048

Pretty much matches Kawhi's height...

https://i.insider.com/58e3fd4677bb70872c8b56e9?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[ace3g]

CDFSH9cBQnO

[KobesAchilles]

3 takeaways: we need to trade Murray. I don’t care about what he might become. The dude reminds me of Antonio Daniels. All the tools in the world, just doesn’t translate to actual game.

White needs to be our starting SG. Fuck Demar

We need to draft a PG in this years draft.

[GAustex]

#10 for Nets is a monster

[GAustex]

3 takeaways: we need to trade Murray. I don’t care about what he might become. The dude reminds me of Antonio Daniels. All the tools in the world, just doesn’t translate to actual game.

White needs to be our starting SG. Fuck Demar

We need to draft a PG in this years draft.
I am good with that.
Also rid of DDR, Forbes, Beli,Gay, Mills.
Start over.

[baseline bum]

3 takeaways: we need to trade Murray. I don’t care about what he might become. The dude reminds me of Antonio Daniels. All the tools in the world, just doesn’t translate to actual game.

White needs to be our starting SG. Fuck Demar

We need to draft a PG in this years draft.

This roster is such shit you just take whatever the best player on the board is IMO. There is absolutely no one on this roster than can really be depended on as a long-term piece. Every position is a need right now.

[gambit1990]

This roster is such shit you just take whatever the best player on the board is IMO. There is absolutely no one on this roster than can really be depended on as a long-term piece. Every position is a need right now.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHgUvPm9ynA

[gambit1990]

3 takeaways: we need to trade Murray. I don’t care about what he might become. The dude reminds me of Antonio Daniels. All the tools in the world, just doesn’t translate to actual game.
interesting way to put it. makes me think of george hill.

murray is still young though, and has had to deal with injury and bad rotations.

[Dejounte]

3 takeaways: we need to trade Murray. I don’t care about what he might become. The dude reminds me of Antonio Daniels. All the tools in the world, just doesn’t translate to actual game.

White needs to be our starting SG. Fuck Demar

We need to draft a PG in this years draft.

You mean fuck Forbes? DeMar has been starting at SF all year.

[gambit1990]

rudy gay is the 3rd highest paid spur :lol

[gambit1990]

hopefully pop steps aside after this stint tbqh... changes won't happen until then.

[dbestpro]

I see that defense is still more a suggestion than a real thing.

[GAustex]

hopefully pop steps aside after this stint tbqh... changes won't happen until then.

[phxspurfan]

Apparently The Good DWhite showed up today.

[KobesAchilles]

You mean fuck Forbes? DeMar has been starting at SF all year.
I feel like Demar is going to opt in. Technically we only have Forbes for 8 more games. If we re-sign him then yeah fuck Forbes. I mean fuck him anyways but I reeeeaally hope he is no longer our problem next year

[Dejounte]

I wonder with DeMar's crip connections would eliminate NY as a suitor

[Chomag]

hopefully pop steps aside after this stint tbqh... changes won't happen until then.

[smush]

D white is a beast!

derozan needs to go.

It’s really sad to see how bad Rudy has fallen off. He looks horrible. Gave the ball Away three times today.

I don’t feel good about Murray. I wish we could give his money to white

[LakerHater]

3 takeaways: we need to trade Murray. I don’t care about what he might become. The dude reminds me of Antonio Daniels. All the tools in the world, just doesn’t translate to actual game.

Yeah Im losin it with Murray already!

[tmtcsc]

D white is a beast!

derozan needs to go.

It’s really sad to see how bad Rudy has fallen off. He looks horrible. Gave the ball Away three times today.

I don’t feel good about Murray. I wish we could give his money to white

D White is a beast when he wants to be. No bueno. He needs to be consistent. Denver shut him down in the playoffs after getting hot last year and he's been as soft as a bunny's ass this season. Need that from him every night. Be a pro.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I believe in Keldon. That's someone we can depend on. He already has that effect where his defense changes things and makes plays happen. He's aggressive on O. He wants to build a 3-pointer.

There is no reason to think he can't grow to be similar to Manu. Everyone else is showing us nothing except D White, who refuses to believe in himself for more than one game in a row.

If we can make White understand that he has a green light, that's a solid backcourt.

[Dejounte]

I believe in Keldon. That's someone we can depend on. He already has that effect where his defense changes things and makes plays happen. He's aggressive on O. He wants to build a 3-pointer.

There is no reason to think he can't grow to be similar to Manu. Everyone else is showing us nothing except D White, who refuses to believe in himself for more than one game in a row.

If we can make White understand that he has a green light, that's a solid backcourt.

People act like White is too old for the Spurs to include him in the rebuilding. He just turned 26. He has at least 7 years of productive play.

[Sugus]

One thing that has become sorely obvious now that our young players are sharing the court, is how much of a difference White's playmaking does as compared to Dejounte's. I really do wish the Spurs hadn't been so quick to commit to DJ... Trading him now or next year is out of the question, and even the year after that, it'd probably be a "bad look" and the FO wouldn't go for it. But he is lacking in playmaking, dribbling, setting up his teammates, finishing, and distance shooting. The jury is still out on whether he'll stay like this or can get better, but these last two games DJ has not looked good.

I don't see many people talking about Lonnie though. He's had some damn good outings - his shooting looks better, he's finishing better and more decisively around the rim, and he's handing out some nice passes that weren't in his game before. He still isn't handling a big playmaking load, so I'm hoping it's a focus of work during the off-season. With his body and talent, if he can be relied on as a playmaker and PnR handler, sky's the ceiling. Same as Keldon - I've really liked these past two games from him. Despite everyone on here being so debby-downer about our team, we've got some nice pieces, just have to see which ones develop and trade away those who don't. And for heaven's sake, ship DeMar and Rudy's asses to the furthest away team from San An possible. Trash.

[Dejounte]

One thing that has become sorely obvious now that our young players are sharing the court, is how much of a difference White's playmaking does as compared to Dejounte's. I really do wish the Spurs hadn't been so quick to commit to DJ... Trading him now or next year is out of the question, and even the year after that, it'd probably be a "bad look" and the FO wouldn't go for it. But he is lacking in playmaking, dribbling, setting up his teammates, finishing, and distance shooting. The jury is still out on whether he'll stay like this or can get better, but these last two games DJ has not looked good.

I don't see many people talking about Lonnie though. He's had some damn good outings - his shooting looks better, he's finishing better and more decisively around the rim, and he's handing out some nice passes that weren't in his game before. He still isn't handling a big playmaking load, so I'm hoping it's a focus of work during the off-season. With his body and talent, if he can be relied on as a playmaker and PnR handler, sky's the ceiling. Same as Keldon - I've really liked these past two games from him. Despite everyone on here being so debby-downer about our team, we've got some nice pieces, just have to see which ones develop and trade away those who don't. And for heaven's sake, ship DeMar and Rudy's asses to the furthest away team from San An possible. Trash.

If there's anything from Dejounte that could be seen as a positive... Its that he is the hardest worker on the team according to his teammates. Keldon also said he's close with Dejounte. Maybe this leadership quality SOMEWHAT makes up for his contract if it pushes the others to be better players.

[Sugus]

If there's anything from Dejounte that could be seen as a positive... Its that he is the hardest worker on the team according to his teammates. Keldon also said he's close with Dejounte. Maybe this leadership quality SOMEWHAT makes up for his contract if it pushes the others to be better players.

To be honest, I've never doubted DJ's work ethic. It's clear he's put in the work - his shot is noticeably better, at least on the midrange, and he's much more inclined to attack and call his own number than when he first got on the team. Having said that, I just don't think the things he sorely needs are things that can actually be taught or be worked at, at that level. Maybe we've just gotten used to prospects coming out of the gates guns blazing nowadays, but I don't see many PGs that struggle with setting up their teammates and shooting for years after they've came into the league. It's kind of the only things you *must* do as a starting PG -set up plays, get the ball to your teammates on their spots, space the floor- and DJ does neither at an above average level. Can he improve? He sure can, and I'm hoping he will. But the more I watch him get his dribble picked, his passes read, his confidence falter when he gets the ball above the 3pt line, the more I think that if he hasn't improved as of now, he won't do it later. You can put in all the work that you can physically, but there's a mental aspect to the game that a true championship-level PG has to have, that I simply don't see in DJ. I'm rooting for him, though... For the time being, DWhite's presence on the starting lineup at least mitigates this somewhat.

[Dejounte]

I agree with all of your points... Watch him shut us up in the next game with 16 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals...

[Sugus]

I agree with all of your points... Watch him shut us up in the next game with 16 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals...

The thing is, I wouldn't really like that - just the statline, I mean. Dejounte has already had some impressive scoring outlets through the season (the first few games of the season come to mind, before Pop's neutering), but what he's consistently struggled with has been setting up his teammates and actually running an offense. Far too often, he brings the ball up, and settles for a quick pass to DD/LMA to shift the responsibility of the playmaking, whilst he slips to the corner or wing (where he isn't truly spacing the floor, as he'll stutter to take the catch-and-shoot 3). When he's aggressive and scoring, it obviously helps the team, but he still falls into his tendency to not set up others, which invariably hinders the team.

If you're not getting the primary playmaking out of your starting PG, you must have either a pass-oriented scheme (which the current Spurs are far from) or a ball-handling, heavy-use star wing or center, like LBJ or Luka or whomever. The Spurs don't have that either, and I'm really hoping they trade up for Avdija this year to fix that, but it'll still be worrysome if Dj never develops in this aspect. His shooting, I think will eventually get better, but I can't say the same about his offense running. In that regard, having White start at the 2 is the obvious hot fix, but leaves the bench vulnerable (watching Forbes run the point today, though not as bad as could've been, was disgusting). We'll see how the Spurs deal with this moving forward...

Above all though, the ones who I want handling the ball the most are Keldon and Lonnie. Today's league is made for players just like them, and if they can get better at running the PnR, shooting and passing, which both already seem to be developing, they can become a very special duo.

[Dejounte]

Drafting Deni would be a dream for the Spurs.

Back to being the top international team in the NBA and becoming beloved all over the world.

Austrian
Croatian
Australian
Israeli
Italian (but i hope hes not on the team anymore)

Maybe nab Leandro Balmaro too somehow and we'll have an Argentinian

I simmed the lottery and the Spurs were top 3 seven times out of 25. I like our chances.

Eventually:

Dejounte/ Quinndary
White/ Mills
Keldon/ Lonnie
Deni/ Lyles/ Samanic
Poetl/ Eubanks

[tmtcsc]

Everyone else is showing us nothing except D White, who refuses to believe in himself for more than one game in a row.


Exactly

[slick'81]

Just one more season of patty mills....but hey! Atleast poodle power is back

[cd021]

I feel like Demar is going to opt in. Technically we only have Forbes for 8 more games. If we re-sign him then yeah fuck Forbes. I mean fuck him anyways but I reeeeaally hope he is no longer our problem next year

No question DDR is going to opt-in. Doesn't mean that he'll be a Spur, however. Spurs could make it clear that they intend to rebuild after the season, and then him, his agent, and The Spurs can work on finding a trade.

The most obvious team is the Knicks, who have the Spurs to absorb most of his contact (they've also been rumored to be interested in him). Think that Forbes is probably gone no matter what, too many players with higher ceilings that fill his minutes. Then again, PATFO will probably be enticed by the fact that he'll be almost certainly be available for the same salary as this season.

[Truth4sale$]

I have set it before, and I will say it again...Dejounte Murray should be a backup at this time. He needs to learn. At the beginning of the season he was not and is still not ready for a starting point guard slot. He actually would be a great point forward if he was 3 inches taller, where his limited playmaking skills would not be so exposed. If he came off the bench alongside either Patty Mills or Forbes, he would be better off, due to better shooting around him and less pressure against starters, and his defense will cover up the undersized guards

Derrick White has 4 years of college playing experience, as opposed to 1 for Dejounte.
Derrick White led his Gleague team to a championship and started more professional games compared to Dejoune. I am not saying Dejounte wont improve , or wont be better but right now he is not the starter the Spurs need.

[TimDunkem]

Should've drafted Brogdon.

[GAustex]

I have set it before, and I will say it again...Dejounte Murray should be a backup at this time. He needs to learn. At the beginning of the season he was not and is still not ready for a starting point guard slot. He actually would be a great point forward if he was 3 inches taller, where his limited playmaking skills would not be so exposed. If he came off the bench alongside either Patty Mills or Forbes, he would be better off, due to better shooting around him and less pressure against starters, and his defense will cover up the undersized guards

Derrick White has 4 years of college playing experience, as opposed to 1 for Dejounte.
Derrick White led his Gleague team to a championship and started more professional games compared to Dejoune. I am not saying Dejounte wont improve , or wont be better but right now he is not the starter the Spurs need.
Another poor decision by poop poopavich

[Degoat]

I get it... dejounte is probably my least favorite of the youngins between Dwhite, Lonnie, and Keldon but chill out a little bit, right before the season was postponed Dejounte was playing the best basketball of his career

[wildbill2u]

Sugus, re DJ dribbling and getting his dribble picked: I posted the first time I saw him that he was dribbling the ball up to shoulder level and he would get picked. That extra difference the ball is traveling is an opportunity for defensive minded guards to time it and reach in for a steal. Same goes when he drives. He probably grew up in his current body too fast and developed that high dribble. Whatever, it is not a dribble for a NBA player, much less a starting point guard. He will never be able lose that style and will never be a top PG.

[GAustex]

poop poopavich cannot get murry to dribble right

poop poopavich cannot coach

[BackHome]

I like Murray but I have been saying from day 1 he is not a PG they need to play him at SG and try to make a better offensive Danny Green and if he can give us 80% of Danny defensively it would be a win win for both parties. People just don’t understand that a PG is like a Running Back you either have good on court vision and can be productive or you don’t and you won’t be productive. You either have it or you don’t it’s not something you can work on and improve on every year and Murray just doesn’t have it. I have never seen him break his man down and do a slick pass or take it into the paint and make a pass to a cutting player for an easy dunk. Don’t get me wrong I still like the kid but Pop screwed up by not making him a SG.

[TimDunkem]

I like Murray but I have been saying from day 1 he is not a PG they need to play him at SG and try to make a better offensive Danny Green and if he can give us 80% of Danny defensively it would be a win win for both parties. People just don’t understand that a PG is like a Running Back you either have good on court vision and can be productive or you don’t and you won’t be productive. You either have it or you don’t it’s not something you can work on and improve on every year and Murray just doesn’t have it. I have never seen him break his man down and do a slick pass or take it into the paint and make a pass to a cutting player for an easy dunk. Don’t get me wrong I still like the kid but Pop screwed up by not making him a SG.
He should be an Avery Bradley type (defensive minded 3 and D combo G) and be done with it. He'll never be a true PG.

[spurs10]

Let's hope DM has better performances moving forward. They put a lot of stock in him being the PG of the future. Tuesday's game will be the first I get to watch.

[Ocotillo]

Then again, PATFO will probably be enticed by the fact that he'll be almost certainly be available for the same salary as this season.

I have always thought he would be a good 12th man to have around for those end of game plays where you have to spread the floor for a last shot.

[Truth4sale$]

I am not a Dejounte hater, but he is being rushed too quickly. He needed to study behind a veteran point guard, where as Derrick White has 4 years of experience.
For the last game, Popovich needs to sit DeMar and start Keldon...let's see what he can do

[objective]

I am not a Dejounte hater, but he is being rushed too quickly. He needed to study behind a veteran point guard, where as Derrick White has 4 years of experience.
For the last game, Popovich needs to sit DeMar and start Keldon...let's see what he can do

I've posted about it before and I think it still stands true:

The coaching staff needed a former NBA point guard to work with Dejounte. And he really needs the coaching though it may be getting too late. There is no one to help him get better at NBA point guard skills. White is trying to get his own career going and Mills never had those skills.

Maybe it would have never made a difference but the Spurs have really underserved Murray and themselves.

[Dejounte]

Was Tony Parker's mentorship not enough for DJ?

[objective]

Was Tony Parker's mentorship not enough for DJ?

I don't think so. Murray was very far behind, and I don't think in his playing days Parker was much the mentoring type.

Murray then missed an entire year. He still needed work, and I think some dedicated coaching could have helped. Couldn't have hurt.

[objective]

Was Tony Parker's mentorship not enough for DJ?

I don't think so. Murray was very far behind, and I don't think in his playing days Parker was much the mentoring type.

Murray then missed an entire year. He still needed work, and I think some dedicated coaching could have helped. Couldn't have hurt.

[SpursDynasty85]

I've posted about it before and I think it still stands true:

The coaching staff needed a former NBA point guard to work with Dejounte. And he really needs the coaching though it may be getting too late. There is no one to help him get better at NBA point guard skills. White is trying to get his own career going and Mills never had those skills.

Maybe it would have never made a difference but the Spurs have really underserved Murray and themselves.

Becky Hammon is a legit pg mentor. I think DJ is just stuck in between a rock and a hard place with Demar and his combo gaurd style of play. Ultimately a lot of this can STILL be attributed to his inexperience overall. He just needs to grow with the other guys.

[Dverde]

I think DJ is fine and gotta keep grinding. I think now is a good buy low on him. I think he’ll bounce back to be a solid starter next year.

[Dverde]

Just one more season of patty mills....but hey! Atleast poodle power is back

Patty is a kool aid commander. He’ll get at least one more contract. Book it!

[slick'81]

Patty is a kool aid commander. He’ll get at least one more contract. Book it!Might as well keep fuckng the spurs tbh

[cd021]

I am not a Dejounte hater, but he is being rushed too quickly. He needed to study behind a veteran point guard, where as Derrick White has 4 years of experience.
For the last game, Popovich needs to sit DeMar and start Keldon...let's see what he can do

That doesn't necessarily bode well for White's ceiling then. White is probably better than Murray but not so much so. I think Murray was more hurt due to missing last season.

He barely played his rookie year and his second season was his only other season where he was a rotation player. It may have stunted his development; seeing how the goal was mainly to have him get back on the court and stay healthy. His jumper has certainly progressed while every other aspect has either regressed our leveled out.

[TimDunkem]

Don't think any of the young guy's ceilings is very high. We have a team of average role players, tbqfh, imho, fwiw