Another day, another blooper from dementia Joe

[Nathan89]

good thing the conservatives have the largest cable news channel, dominate local news, dominate the radio, and dominate social media

Conservatives have one cable outlet compared to many on the left. It's not an advantage.

[Will Hunting]

I think because they are now literally putting all their eggs into the "Joe has Dementia" basket and are trying to schedule as many debates as possible so they can hopefully show the world if he is truly not all there. Of everything that has happened under this moron's watch this is probably their last hail mary.
I think it might backfire. They're setting expectations so low with the constant "Joe has dementia and his brain is a scrambled egg...He can't even talk!" such that as long as Biden shows up to the debate and survives for two hours without shitting his pants or collapsing on stage the media narrative will be "Joe Biden fights back and shows he doesn't have dementia!"

The Dems made the same mistake in 2016. They talked nonstop shit about how "unpresidential!" Trump is, then after the 3rd debate (where Trump intentionally toned it down), the story that dominated headlines was "Trump shows he can be presidential!"

The 1st debate is a trap for Trump. Reagan, GHWB, GWB and Obama all didn't take their first reelection debate seriously and had to make up ground in the 2nd and 3rd debates. In the Axios interview Trump looked totally unprepared for a scenario where someone is going to push back and challenge what he says, he's gonna need a lot of prep to get back into 2015 Teflon Don mode.

[ChumpDumper]

Who said you can invite a stranger inside? You can chat outside pussyWhy are you afraid to invite them into your house, pussy?

[ChumpDumper]

Conservatives have one cable outlet compared to many on the left. It's not an advantage.The two they have are not a disadvantage. It's not like conservatives are strapped down and forced to watch Maddow Clockwork Orange style.

[florige]

I think it might backfire. They're setting expectations so low with the constant "Joe has dementia and his brain is a scrambled egg...He can't even talk!" such that as long as Biden shows up to the debate and survives for two hours without shitting his pants or collapsing on stage the media narrative will be "Joe Biden fights back and shows he doesn't have dementia!"

The Dems made the same mistake in 2016. They talked nonstop shit about how "unpresidential!" Trump is, then after the 3rd debate (where Trump intentionally toned it down), the story that dominated headlines was "Trump shows he can be presidential!"

The 1st debate is a trap for Trump. Reagan, GHWB, GWB and Obama all didn't take their first reelection debate seriously and had to make up ground in the 2nd and 3rd debates. In the Axios interview Trump looked totally unprepared for a scenario where someone is going to push back and challenge what he says, he's gonna need a lot of prep to get back into 2015 Teflon Don mode.



:lol I agree, but I still think that this is literally their last go to option hoping that something really bad happens with Biden during the debates that they can hopefully take and run with.

[Reck]

Who said you can invite a stranger inside? You can chat outside pussy

:lol So your contention is that not only is some stranger bothering you at home but you would also take the visit outside for some reason?

:lmao

[Ef-man]

One word, Yosemite!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGX2XTNfXLM

[Chris]

Conservatives have one cable outlet compared to many on the left. It's not an advantage.

Only outlet I see that's Conservative is OAN. I'm also curious how Conservatives dominate social media when Zuckerbot and Jack are hard core Lefties :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

1290971428813242368

he takes that test, no matter the outcome, all we'll hear is how he took a test reserved for people with suspected dementia

[DarrinS]

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[Chris]

Another day :lmao

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1290971428813242368?s=19

Jesus.

[Chris]

1291070009452703744

I remember another presidential candidate promising lots of "change".

[ChumpDumper]

I remember another presidential candidate promising lots of "change".Yeah, that was Trump.

[hater]

Why are you afraid to invite them into your house, pussy?

So you invite male strangers into your house. Does not surprise me tbqh

[ChumpDumper]

So you invite male strangers into your house. Does not surprise me tbqhI'm the one who doesn't invite any one in.

:lol You don't even remember what you're arguing.


Why are you afraid to invite females into your home?

[RandomGuy]

Conservatives have one cable outlet compared to many on the left. It's not an advantage.

:lol

Talkradio. Sinclair. OAN

:cry we're so outnumbered :cry why isn't media aping conservative propraganda 24/7 :cry

Pissant wannabe victim. Boo-hoo, all the media doesn't agree with my factless, logically flawed worldview.

GMAFB.

[RandomGuy]

I remember another presidential candidate promising lots of "change".

I remember the last four times Trump was asked about his plans for a second term and couldn't name a god-damned fucking thing.

"um... healthcare?"

Good times.

[Blake]

Only outlet I see that's Conservative is OAN.

Lol

[Trainwreck2100]

I think it might backfire. They're setting expectations so low with the constant "Joe has dementia and his brain is a scrambled egg...He can't even talk!" such that as long as Biden shows up to the debate and survives for two hours without shitting his pants or collapsing on stage the media narrative will be "Joe Biden fights back and shows he doesn't have dementia!"

The Dems made the same mistake in 2016. They talked nonstop shit about how "unpresidential!" Trump is, then after the 3rd debate (where Trump intentionally toned it down), the story that dominated headlines was "Trump shows he can be presidential!"

The 1st debate is a trap for Trump. Reagan, GHWB, GWB and Obama all didn't take their first reelection debate seriously and had to make up ground in the 2nd and 3rd debates. In the Axios interview Trump looked totally unprepared for a scenario where someone is going to push back and challenge what he says, he's gonna need a lot of prep to get back into 2015 Teflon Don mode.

In 2016 he didn't even need to work hard for one of his debates, the post Access Hollywood tape debate he skated through because of how it focused on that, but turns out nobody cares about some old white rich guy doing shit we expect old white rich guys to do.

[RandomGuy]

Jesus.

Satan.

[hater]

1291070009452703744

Dear lord

Help us

[Chris]

Satan.

mad :lol

[benefactor]

Dear lord

Help us
Exactly.

1290497186489348096

[hater]

Exactly.

1290497186489348096

Agreed

Dear lord help us

[Chris]

Trump is the obvious choice.

[Spurtacular]

Dear lord

Help us

:lmao "the right pick"
:lmao Chumpettes

[Spurtacular]

Exactly.

1290497186489348096

:lmao "Journalist" getting mad that US doesn't have a bad enough mortality rate from "cases".

[spurraider21]

:lmao "Journalist" getting mad that US doesn't have a bad enough mortality rate from "cases".
trump complains we are showing too many cases because we are testing too many people, even mild cases of sniffles, and then pivots to use those mild cases of sniffles to show a lower case mortality rate. the number of people dying is more important than the case mortality rate. who cares if you have a virus with a 90% mortality rate if only 20 people catch it, vs one with a mortality rate of 1% but where millions are infected.

we've done an abysmal job of containment going back to march. now we're all the way into august, still having well over 1k deaths per day, and people are still bitching about fucking masks and are begging to reopen the flootgates

[pgardn]

:lmao "Journalist" getting mad that US doesn't have a bad enough mortality rate from "cases".

You have zero contextual awareness or know enough about this disease to understand this part of the interview.
It was humiliating.
Trump gets punked regularly when he actual is pushed by a reporter.
MM is after him again, asking legit questions, God help you.

[Reck]

Some flailing up in this bitch.

Poor Chris. Poor Darrin. Poor Hater

[Spurtacular]

trump complains we are showing too many cases because we are testing too many people, even mild cases of sniffles, and then pivots to use those mild cases of sniffles to show a lower case mortality rate. the number of people dying is more important than the case mortality rate. who cares if you have a virus with a 90% mortality rate if only 20 people catch it, vs one with a mortality rate of 1% but where millions are infected.

we've done an abysmal job of containment going back to march. now we're all the way into august, still having well over 1k deaths per day, and people are still bitching about fucking masks and are begging to reopen the flootgates

It's the sniffles, Lite. Get a hold of yourself.

[Nathan89]

Only outlet I see that's Conservative is OAN. I'm also curious how Conservatives dominate social media when Zuckerbot and Jack are hard core Lefties :lol

For some reason people on Facebook sharing conservative content it's being counted as similar to mainstream media pushing propaganda.

[Chris]

You have zero contextual awareness or know enough about this disease to understand this part of the interview.
It was humiliating.
Trump gets punked regularly when he actual is pushed by a reporter.
MM is after him again, asking legit questions, God help you.

Do you think it's the reporter's job to debate Trump since your flawed candidate is incapable?

[Chris]

For some reason people on Facebook sharing conservative content it's being counted as similar to mainstream media pushing propaganda.

technical glitch

[spurraider21]

It's the sniffles, Lite. Get a hold of yourself.
right. and he has no problem using the mild sniffle cases to pimp the case mortality rate but then gets pissed when people with sniffles are tested positive

and yet we have over 160k deaths.

[spurraider21]

Only outlet I see that's Conservative is OAN. I'm also curious how Conservatives dominate social media when Zuckerbot and Jack are hard core Lefties :lol
i think you forgot about Fox News

[Spurminator]

I'm also curious how Conservatives dominate social media when Zuckerbot and Jack are hard core Lefties :lol

It's weird that someone who uses social media enough to be flagged multiple times as a bot still doesn't understand how social media works.

[Spurtacular]

right. and he has no problem using the mild sniffle cases to pimp the case mortality rate but then gets pissed when people with sniffles are tested positive

and yet we have over 160k deaths.

He has to debate on this playing field b/c that's what you need to hear about.

[spurraider21]

For some reason people on Facebook sharing conservative content it's being counted as similar to mainstream media pushing propaganda.
i guess steven crowder, dennis prager, ben shapiro, mark dice, dave rubin, tim pool, etc are "people on facebook sharing conservative content"

[spurraider21]

He has to debate on this playing field b/c that's what you need to hear about.
this doesnt address his double standard.

this doesnt address how 6 months into this thing we are seeing an uptick in deaths

[hater]

Some flailing up in this bitch.

Poor Chris. Poor Darrin. Poor Hater

I accept both Trump and Biden are shit

Can you bitch?

[Blake]

Trump is the obvious choice.

https://i.insider.com/5f0b14f83f73704a8221fdb3?width=1200&format=jpeg

[Blake]

I accept both Trump and Biden are shit

Can you bitch?

Trump is way more shitty tho

[Chris]

It's weird that someone who uses social media enough to be flagged multiple times as a bot still doesn't understand how social media works.

Tell me how it works.

[Chris]

https://i.insider.com/5f0b14f83f73704a8221fdb3?width=1200&format=jpeg

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

[Chris]

i think you forgot about Fox News

No I didn't.

[Reck]

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

It’s happening to every American. We deserve a president who doesn’t go out golfing while Americans are dying by the thousands daily.

[Blake]

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Apologize to the families of the 150k+ instead.

[Chris]

It’s happening to every American. We deserve a president who doesn’t go out golfing while Americans are dying by the thousands daily.

Should he go breathe in their nostrils?

[spurraider21]

No I didn't.
oh.

then your lack of recognition of what conservatism is equal or lack of recognition of what fascism is

[Chris]

Apologize to the families of the 150k+ instead.

The China virus?

[Chris]

oh.

then your lack of recognition of what conservatism is equal or lack of recognition of what fascism is

ok

[Will Hunting]

In 2016 he didn't even need to work hard for one of his debates, the post Access Hollywood tape debate he skated through because of how it focused on that, but turns out nobody cares about some old white rich guy doing shit we expect old white rich guys to do.
Iirc it was the 2nd debate where the Access Hollywood tape was the topic. By the end of the 3rd debate the topic was “but her emails” and “Trump proved he could be presidential!” Teflon Don outmanuevered Hillary in a big way in the month before the election.

One big story no one is talking about is how much worse his campaign staff is now. In 2016 Steve Bannon and to a lesser extent Roger Stone were playing chess while Hillary’s campaign was playing Connect Four. Not having Stone or Bannon is definitely hurting him this time around. Not sure how involved Conway is but he should have put the campaign back in her control awhile ago.

[spurraider21]

The China virus?
yep, the same virus that most other countries have already contained, which allows then to open back up

[Chris]

yep, the same virus that most other countries have already contained, which allows then to open back up

Are you upset Trump is letting the goverors decide?

Also can you tell me the other countries that have it contained? Should be a lot of them since you said most.

[hater]

Trump is way more shitty tho

Debatable

[Blake]

Debatable

For any rational person looking at what's going on, no it's really not

[spurraider21]

Are you upset Trump is letting the goverors decide?

Also can you tell me the other countries that have it contained? Should be a lot of them since you said most.
yes i'm upset that the president of the united states abstained and failed to lead a national effort. a national strategy would have been quite helpful to have a coordinate attempt to beat the virus, instead of having 50 different states doing things on different schedules

countries that have it contained? germany, south korea, france, italy (yes, even after their abysmal early wave), canada, denmark, norway, finland. even sweden and the uk despite their early herd immunity attempt blunders.

[DarrinS]

yes i'm upset that the president of the united states abstained and failed to lead a national effort. a national strategy would have been quite helpful to have a coordinate attempt to beat the virus, instead of having 50 different states doing things on different schedules

countries that have it contained? germany, south korea, france, italy (yes, even after their abysmal early wave), canada, denmark, norway, finland. even sweden and the uk despite their early herd immunity attempt blunders.


Evidently, the best way to "contain" it, is to have many people get it. It's obvious that some of the countries you listed are nearing herd immunity. And lockdown was not the most important factor.

[DarrinS]

New York's numbers look good now. After they got hammered.

[spurraider21]

Evidently, the best way to "contain" it, is to have many people get it. It's obvious that some of the countries you listed are nearing herd immunity. And lockdown was not the most important factor.
oh yeah, germany, south korea, denmark, norway, finland all had mountains of cases comparable on proportion to the US!

lockdowns arent necessary if you have good early testing, contact tracing, and quarantines for those infected those identified through contact tracing. i'm sorry that doing nothing wasnt a viable approach

[DarrinS]

oh yeah, germany, south korea, denmark, norway, finland all had mountains of cases comparable on proportion to the US!

lockdowns arent necessary if you have good early testing, contact tracing, and quarantines for those infected those identified through contact tracing.


There's obviously something else going on, i.e. some percent of population already immune.

[spurraider21]

There's obviously something else going on, i.e. some percent of population already immune.
link to people from those countries having a natural immunity?

[Will Hunting]

Evidently, the best way to "contain" it, is to have many people get it. It's obvious that some of the countries you listed are nearing herd immunity. And lockdown was not the most important factor.
:lmao South Korea has had 300 deaths total. Are you saying that’s herd immunity?

[Will Hunting]

There's obviously something else going on, i.e. some percent of population already immune.
:lol right, because it’s not like more people wearing masks and taking it seriously together with a government having better testing and contact tracing infrastructure could be the cause. Dear Leader said that’s not it so it must not be it!

[Will Hunting]

New York's numbers look good now. After they got hammered.
I was in Manhattan in late June. It was the twilight zone - roads were empty, the hotel on Time Square I was staying at that’s normally way more than I’d spend on a hotel room was dirt cheap because it was empty, the restaurants only had people sitting outside, and I saw literally no one not wearing a mask other than the friend I visited. Their. numbers look good now because they shut the fuck down and are taking it seriously. If they had herd immunity they wouldn’t be restricting travel from other states.

[ChumpDumper]

It's insane how simplistic Darrin's knowledge of viral spread is five months in.

[DarrinS]

I was in Manhattan in late June. It was the twilight zone - roads were empty, the hotel on Time Square I was staying at that’s normally way more than I’d spend on a hotel room was dirt cheap because it was empty, the restaurants only had people sitting outside, and I saw literally no one not wearing a mask other than the friend I visited. Their. numbers look good now because they shut the fuck down and are taking it seriously. If they had herd immunity they wouldn’t be restricting travel from other states.

65% got infected at home

[pgardn]

Do you think it's the reporter's job to debate Trump since your flawed candidate is incapable?

Its every reporters job who interviews a president about real issues to ask tough questions.
But you did not know this as Trump side steps taking real interviews and when he does them, he fails.
Remember when the WH used to give briefings and presidents would actually put themselves in front of a group of tough reporters and field questions for over 45 seconds? Remember?

Yeah, well this baby boy cant handle that.

so you have prosthetic legs to stand on calling on old Joe...
dumbshit...

[Will Hunting]

65% got infected at home
Says who, your non-scientific opinion?

[pgardn]

65% got infected at home

So how did they get infected at home?

[Will Hunting]

If New York has herd immunity, why is it still locked down? Wouldn’t it want to get its economy going again and open up for business?

[Reck]

Ib4 darrin harps on the subway!!!

[DarrinS]

Ib4 darrin harps on the subway!!!

Hi

[Will Hunting]

Ib4 darrin harps on the subway!!!
DID YOU KNOW Cuomo sent positive COVID patients back to nursing homes!?!!?!?

(FTR - I’m not even sure why this is a big deal. Senior living facilities in other states have positive COVID residents staying in the building, they’re just quarantined. Sending any nursing home or assisted living resident who tests positive for COVID to the hospital even if they have no symptoms would be a really stupid waste of our healthcare system’s capacity)

[spurraider21]

:lol right, because it’s not like more people wearing masks and taking it seriously together with a government having better testing and contact tracing infrastructure could be the cause. Dear Leader said that’s not it so it must not be it!
all those places got lucky. south koreans and germans were just naturally immune. go figure!

[Will Hunting]

all those places got lucky. south koreans and germans were just naturally immune. go figure!
Literally every industrialized country other than the United States just has herd immunity bro. Can’t blame Trump for bad luck :lol

[DarrinS]

So how did they get infected at home?

Family, esp. multi-generational households, or from poor air circulation in apartment buildings, etc.

[Chris]

Its every reporters job who interviews a president about real issues to ask tough questions.
But you did not know this as Trump side steps taking real interviews and when he does them, he fails.
Remember when the WH used to give briefings and presidents would actually put themselves in front of a group of tough reporters and field questions for over 45 seconds? Remember?

Yeah, well this baby boy cant handle that.

so you have prosthetic legs to stand on calling on old Joe...
dumbshit...

nah they debate him every chance they get

"tough questions" is a pig with lipstick

[Spurtacular]

this doesnt address his double standard.

this doesnt address how 6 months into this thing we are seeing an uptick in deaths

:lol Uptick in fake death counts.

[Chris]

all those places got lucky. south koreans and germans were just naturally immune. go figure!

Do you trust the accuracy of those numbers for SoKo?

Do you trust our numbers?

[DarrinS]

Literally every industrialized country other than the United States just has herd immunity bro. Can’t blame Trump for bad luck :lol

I envy Sweden's curve. Go look. And they didn't lock down, at least not like other European countries.

California locked down early and hard. How's that working out?

[ChumpDumper]

I envy Sweden's curve. Go look.You want to be over 200k dead right now.

That's what you envy.

[pgardn]

Family, esp. multi-generational households, or from poor air circulation in apartment buildings, etc.

So how did it get into the apartment or home?

[DarrinS]

So how did it get into the apartment or home?

Some people got it before we realized it was spreading. Other people got it because they can't work from home. Others got it from traveling and visiting family and friends.

[DarrinS]

You want to be over 200k dead right now.

That's what you envy.

We are going to surpass that.

[Will Hunting]

I envy Sweden's curve. Go look. And they didn't lock down, at least not like other European countries.

California locked down early and hard. How's that working out?
Sweden has more deaths per capita than the US, I don't envy them at all. Its curve is much shittier than its Scandinavian neighbors. One thing to keep in mind (that obviously isn't Trump's fault but is something to consider) is that Sweden is a much healthier country than we are. Its average citizen isn't 60 pounds overweight. If we went with the Sweden approach it would have been ugly.

It was working out fine in California until they lifted restrictions. Do you really not understand how retarded the argument of "Look at California - lockdowns don't work!" is when the cases in California were going down in March/April/May and then, after it lifted a lot of lockdown restrictions, cases started to go up again?

FTR, I definitely am not saying we needed a lockdown. I would have preferred the Germany approach of not going to full lockdown but having testing and contact tracing. Our privatized healthcare system sucks though so that wasn't an option.

[Winehole23]

We are going to surpass that.What's your 12 month estimate?

[pgardn]

Some people got it before we realized it was spreading. Other people got it because they can't work from home. Others got it from traveling and visiting family and friends.

So you do realize its not tetanus.
And you do realize population density thru 3-d housing is tougher to solve than spread out San Antonio.
And your zip code.

Bout how much acreage for each home in your neighborhood?

[DarrinS]

What drives down the Sweden and NY curves? Two polar opposite policies.

[Winehole23]

Mine's a range. 300,000-500,000 dead, March 2020 to March 2021. I think that might be a little on the conservative side.

[Chris]

Thread about Joe Biden got derailed fast :lol

You hate to see it.

[DarrinS]

So you do realize its not tetanus.
And you do realize population density thru 3-d housing is tougher to solve than spread out San Antonio.
And your zip code.

Bout how much acreage for each home in your neighborhood?


I'm my area, it's common to live on 1 acre. At the supermarket, that distance shrinks considerably.

[ChumpDumper]

We are going to surpass that.You want to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Understood.

[ChumpDumper]

Thread about Joe Biden got derailed fast :lol

You hate to see it.You sure do.:lol

[pgardn]

What drives down the Sweden and NY curves? Two polar opposite policies.

You should really ask Norway, Finland, and Denmark's about curves for a more accurate comparison if the variable is policy.
Dont you think?

[Winehole23]

Thread about Joe Biden got derailed fast :lol

You hate to see it.It would be amazing if an historic pandemic ever overtook your attention.

[ChumpDumper]

What drives down the Sweden and NY curves? Two polar opposite policies.How many people should be dead in New York now using your Swedish policy?

Post a number.

[pgardn]

I'm my area, it's common to live on 1 acre. At the supermarket, that distance shrinks considerably.

so we are indeed at an advantage

[Chris]

It would be amazing if an historic pandemic ever overtook your attention.

How many threads do we have for that on the first page alone?

[ChumpDumper]

Somehow living in the burbs is an advantage!





























Somehow!

[ChumpDumper]

How many threads do we have for that on the first page alone?I'm sorry this is happening to you.

[DarrinS]

Sweden has more deaths per capita than the US, I don't envy them at all. Its curve is much shittier than its Scandinavian neighbors. One thing to keep in mind (that obviously isn't Trump's fault but is something to consider) is that Sweden is a much healthier country than we are. Its average citizen isn't 60 pounds overweight. If we went with the Sweden approach it would have been ugly.

It was working out fine in California until they lifted restrictions. Do you really not understand how retarded the argument of "Look at California - lockdowns don't work!" is when the cases in California were going down in March/April/May and then, after it lifted a lot of lockdown restrictions, cases started to go up again?

FTR, I definitely am not saying we needed a lockdown. I would have preferred the Germany approach of not going to full lockdown but having testing and contact tracing. Our privatized healthcare system sucks though so that wasn't an option.



I think if we had a very early mask mandate, things would be different.

Sure, it's easy to point out Trump for not setting the example, but our top experts were telling us to not wear masks.

[Spurtacular]

Making fun of dementia isn't cool. Joe needs to live out his final years in dignity, not being ridiculed for his tangled mind.

His bitch of a wife wants to be treated like royalty. She otherwise could've put a stop to this.

She deserves the humiliation coming her way.

[Winehole23]

some can follow a mature, free ranging conversation, some people insist on the OP that they themselves refuse to pursue, prefering to whine about others' lack of topicality.

[Spurtacular]

Thread about Joe Biden got derailed fast :lol

You hate to see it.

:lol At the board cuckold trying to make this about Trump on the first reply.

[Chris]

How many people should be dead in New York now using your Swedish policy?

Post a number.

How many COVID patients should be hamfisted in to nursing homes?

Post a number.

[Chris]

:lol At the board cuckold trying to make this about Trump on the first reply.

:lol

[Will Hunting]

What drives down the Sweden and NY curves? Two polar opposite policies.
Their curves aren't identical. By late June, Sweden's cases and deaths were spiking while NY (and every other Scandinavian country) were well past their peak and case count was sharply trending downward. You're also ignoring the fact Sweden doesn't have any population centers like NYC where people are packed like sardines on crowded sidewalks and crowded subways.

Compare the curve of every Scandinavian country (each of which have very similar demographics) and Sweden's is by far the shittiest.

[Chris]

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

I'm sorry you have to steal my shit.

[ChumpDumper]

How many COVID patients should be hamfisted in to nursing homes?

Post a number.The situation in nursing homes was largely the same in Sweden, so whatever number you believe that was reported for New York.

[pgardn]

:lol At the board cuckold trying to make this about Trump on the first reply.

Oh.

The guy who starts the Blake and Reck thread for 100 + pages is upset...

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sorry you have to steal my shit.I'm sure it wasn't yours to steal.

[Spurtacular]

I'm sorry you have to steal my shit.

:lol

You started that? Nice. :tu

[pgardn]

:lol

You started that? Nice. :tu

let the breast suckling begin...

[hater]

Thread about Joe Biden got derailed fast :lol

You hate to see it.

Lol

[Spurtacular]

let the breast suckling begin...

Big talk for a guy who doesn't wear the pants in his own house.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sorry you have to steal my shit.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/501/142/2bd.jpg

Qhris is a thief and a liar.

You hate to see it.

[DarrinS]

Their curves aren't identical. By late June, Sweden's cases and deaths were spiking while NY (and every other Scandinavian country) were well past their peak and case count was sharply trending downward. You're also ignoring the fact Sweden doesn't have any popular centers like NYC where people are packed like sardines on crowded sidewalks and crowded subways.

Compare the curve of every Scandinavian country (each of which have very similar demographics) and Sweden's is by far the shittiest.


What made Sweden's curve fall?

[Will Hunting]

I think if we had a very early mask mandate, things would be different.

Sure, it's easy to point out Trump for not setting the example, but our top experts were telling us to not wear masks.
There weren't enough masks to go around in March, a mask mandate wouldn't have done jack shit. Experts were telling us not to wear masks because hospital workers needed the limited supply.

It's also not like Trump immediately supported mask wearing once the health experts told people to wear masks. He spent several months politicizing it and only recently flip flopped on it because his poll numbers were tanking. If Trump had been advocating for mask wearing once Fauci did the sycophantic governors who seek his approval (DeathSantis, Ducey, Kemp, etc.) would have followed suit and done more to make sure people in their state wore masks.

[pgardn]

Big talk for a guy who doesn't wear the pants in his own house.

Big talk for a guy who cant have a house with an actual female.
Have you worn out your doll? hows the knothole in the tree you are pumping out for the squirrels?

[Spurtacular]

Big talk for a guy who cant have a house with an actual female.
Have you worn out your doll? hows the knothole in the tree you are pumping out for the squirrels?

You're wife's calling you. I think she wants you to tell off your Trump-loving dad again. :lmao

[benefactor]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/501/142/2bd.jpg

Qhris is a thief and a liar.

You hate to see it.
He's attempted to become a homeless man's version of Culburn since he went back to the reading room. He doesn't actually have an identity.

[ChumpDumper]

You're wife's calling you. I think she wants you to tell off your Trump-loving dad again. :lmao*Your

[DarrinS]

There weren't enough masks to go around in March, a mask mandate wouldn't have done jack shit. Experts were telling us not to wear masks because hospital workers needed the limited supply.

It's also not like Trump immediately supported mask wearing once the health experts told people to wear masks. He spent several months politicizing it and only recently flip flopped on it because his poll numbers were tanking. If Trump had been advocating for mask wearing once Fauci did the sycophantic governors who seek his approval (DeathSantis, Ducey, Kemp, etc.) would have followed suit and done more to make sure people in their state wore masks.


They could have mandated face coverings, not necessarily medical-grade masks. Isn't this the current recommendation?

[ChumpDumper]

They could have mandated face coverings, not necessarily medical-grade masks. Isn't this the current recommendation?How would they have known that would work back then, Darrin?

[pgardn]

You're wife's calling you. I think she wants you to tell off your Trump-loving dad again. :lmao

I have a wife to call me.

You have your hand.

[DarrinS]

How would they have known that would work back then, Darrin?

They probably couldn't have known, tbh.

[Will Hunting]

What made Sweden's curve fall?
Maybe herd immunity, I think it's too early to tell. Sweden's curve hasn't been falling for very long, but i hope for our sake they have herd immunity since it means we should have it by September/October.

Regardless, lets say it indeed is herd immunity, Sweden's current deaths per capita number would mean 184,000 dead Americans (estimating a 327mm population). That's a pretty heavy price to pay for possible herd immunity vs. just wearing a mask and social distancing until we have a vaccine. That 184k number also ignores how fat and unhealthy Americans are vs. Swedes. Our per capita death rate would be higher than Sweden's if we went with the same policy it went with imo.

[ChumpDumper]

They probably couldn't have known, tbh.Oh.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe herd immunity, I think it's too early to tell. Sweden's curve hasn't been falling for very long, but i hope for our sake they have herd immunity since it means we should have it by September/October.

Regardless, lets say it indeed is herd immunity, Sweden's current deaths per capita number would mean 184,000 dead Americans (estimating a 327mm population). That's a pretty heavy price to pay for possible herd immunity vs. just wearing a mask and social distancing until we have a vaccine. That 184k number also ignores how fat and unhealthy Americans are vs. Swedes. Our per capita death rate would be higher than Sweden's if we went with the same policy it went with imo.A slight correction: Sweden's number takes into account the social distancing (however voluntary) and large group restrictions they did implement-- it could've been even worse.

[Will Hunting]

They could have mandated face coverings, not necessarily medical-grade masks. Isn't this the current recommendation?
Yes, and plenty of people are still wearing medical-grade face coverings. If they said back in March "just face coverings but you don't need medical-grade masks, pls don't go out and buy those" it would have triggered a run on medical-grade masks, it's not like Americans are good at following directions :lol

[DarrinS]

Maybe herd immunity, I think it's too early to tell. Sweden's curve hasn't been falling for very long, but i hope for our sake they have herd immunity since it means we should have it by September/October.

Regardless, lets say it indeed is herd immunity, Sweden's current deaths per capita number would mean 184,000 dead Americans (estimating a 327mm population). That's a pretty heavy price to pay for possible herd immunity vs. just wearing a mask and social distancing until we have a vaccine. That 184k number also ignores how fat and unhealthy Americans are vs. Swedes. Our per capita death rate would be higher than Sweden's if we went with the same policy it went with imo.

I agree with all this, but expect we will exceed 200K deaths. Just based on how unhealthy the American public is.

[spurraider21]

Do you trust the accuracy of those numbers for SoKo?

Do you trust our numbers?
Yes and yes, to a reasonable degree

[Will Hunting]

A slight correction: Sweden's number takes into account the social distancing (however voluntary) and large group restrictions they did implement-- it could've been even worse.
Agreed, my hypothetical was trying to show that in a best case scenario, we're looking at 184k dead Americans using the Sweden method, and to your point there's still plenty of economic carnage and interruptions to daily life. It's not like Sweden kept everything chugging along. Unemployment has gone up and its economy has contracted.

[DMC]

Maybe herd immunity, I think it's too early to tell. Sweden's curve hasn't been falling for very long, but i hope for our sake they have herd immunity since it means we should have it by September/October.

Regardless, lets say it indeed is herd immunity, Sweden's current deaths per capita number would mean 184,000 dead Americans (estimating a 327mm population). That's a pretty heavy price to pay for possible herd immunity vs. just wearing a mask and social distancing until we have a vaccine. That 184k number also ignores how fat and unhealthy Americans are vs. Swedes. Our per capita death rate would be higher than Sweden's if we went with the same policy it went with imo.

You're presenting a false dilemma. It's not like zero deaths with mask, 184K without.

[DMC]

I agree with all this, but expect we will exceed 200K deaths. Just based on how unhealthy the American public is.

And how we are counting "died with COVID" as "died of COVID". The IFR formula uses cause of death, not just correlation.

[DarrinS]

Agreed, my hypothetical was trying to show that in a best case scenario, we're looking at 184k dead Americans using the Sweden method, and to your point there's still plenty of economic carnage and interruptions to daily life. It's not like Sweden kept everything chugging along. Unemployment has gone up and its economy has contracted.


I've been wanting to ask you this, since I've noticed a sizable number of asymptomatic cases in nursing homes in SA. Is there some common denominator amongst these cases?

[Will Hunting]

I agree with all this, but expect we will exceed 200K deaths. Just based on how unhealthy the American public is.
There's also the risk that it would have overloaded our healthcare system with too many patients at once. The concern I have is how the heartland handles COVID-19 now that it's starting to spread to rural communities. A few rural communities that are near meat packing plants have already been hammered because of how quickly the virus spread among the plant workers.

[DMC]

If it's true that 20m people have/had COVID, even if no one died from COVID, there would still be 176K deaths from that group in a year.

RG math incoming..

US has a death rate of about 860 per 100K peeps. 20m people would be 860x200. That's 172K deaths. That's non-covid deaths. So if you count everyone who died with COVID as someone who died OF COVID (not that it's being done everywhere), you'd still have roughly the same deaths you have now. We know it's not that one sided, but counting method is important when large numbers come into play. This is especially true if you're going to shit yourself over daily returns.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

[DarrinS]

There's also the risk that it would have overloaded our healthcare system with too many patients at once. The concern I have is how the heartland handles COVID-19 now that it's starting to spread to rural communities. A few rural communities that are near meat packing plants have already been hammered because of how quickly the virus spread among the plant workers.

This. Some of our border counties are getting hammered. They just don't have the resources.

[Will Hunting]

I've been wanting to ask you this, since I've noticed a sizable number of asymptomatic cases in nursing homes in SA. Is there some common denominator amongst these cases?
From what I've seen, nothing unique or useful. The younger residents with less existing conditions are more likely to be asymptomatic while the older ones with advanced dementia who were already on hospice or about to be on hospice are more likely to need hospitalization/ultimately die. This obviously isn't always the case but it's the general trend.

[DMC]

:lmao

Deaths and Mortality
Data are for the U.S.

Number of deaths: 2,813,503
Death rate: 863.8 deaths per 100,000 population
Life expectancy: 78.6 years
Infant Mortality rate: 5.79 deaths per 1,000 live births

US health officials believe 20 million Americans have had coronavirus, nearly 10 times as many infections as confirmed cases

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-coronavirus-americans-infection-rate-pandemic-20200625-sftpek6n7ve7ln5h6o3fhxxe3a-story.html

[ChumpDumper]

:rollin

[DarrinS]

From what I've seen, nothing unique or useful. The younger residents with less existing conditions are more likely to be asymptomatic while the older ones with advanced dementia who were already on hospice or about to be on hospice are more likely to need hospitalization/ultimately die. This obviously isn't always the case but it's the general trend.

Thanks, was just curious based on your experience. :tu

[DMC]

:rollin

TheGreatYacht

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

[Winehole23]

Deaths and Mortality
Data are for the U.S.

Number of deaths: 2,813,503
Death rate: 863.8 deaths per 100,000 population
Life expectancy: 78.6 years
Infant Mortality rate: 5.79 deaths per 1,000 live births

US health officials believe 20 million Americans have had coronavirus, nearly 10 times as many infections as confirmed cases

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-coronavirus-americans-infection-rate-pandemic-20200625-sftpek6n7ve7ln5h6o3fhxxe3a-story.htmlWhat conclusions do you draw therefrom, Profe?

[DarrinS]

So being "old", let's say over 70, isn't really a death sentence.

I'm more inclined to think the comorbidities, e.g overweight, hypertension, diabetes, cancer, are more important factors.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm inclined to think initial viral load at time of infection may be one of the more important factors.

[DarrinS]

I'm inclined to think initial viral load at time of infection may be one of the more important factors.

Probably.

[Winehole23]

I'm inclined to think initial viral load at time of infection may be one of the more important factors.Hopefully so. Seems worth the minor inconvenience of being a diligent mask wearer, wouldn't that be great?

[Will Hunting]

So being "old", let's say over 70, isn't really a death sentence.

I'm more inclined to think the comorbidities, e.g overweight, hypertension, diabetes, cancer, are more important factors.
I think that's for the most part right. Smoking is a big one too, smokers with COVID have died/had complications at a much higher rate than non-smokers with COVID iirc.

Even if you are fat, changing your diet has an immediate effect IMO. Having the nutrients from fruits/vegetables in your system vs. processed shit helps if you get the virus.

[DarrinS]

I think that's for the most part right. Smoking is a big one too, smokers with COVID have died/had complications at a much higher rate than non-smokers with COVID iirc.

Even if you are fat, changing your diet has an immediate effect IMO. Having the nutrients from fruits/vegetables in your system vs. processed shit helps if you get the virus.


From what I hear, obesity is a common characteristic of patients in ICU.

[DarrinS]

Being old AND fat is a terrible combo.

[Will Hunting]

From what I hear, obesity is a common characteristic of patients in ICU.
Definitely the younger ones, that’s for sure.

[Winehole23]

Being old AND fat is a terrible combo.How would you know? ;-)

[Winehole23]

How many threads do we have for that on the first page alone?so stubborn

[DarrinS]

How would you know? ;-)

When I saw a relative of mine decline rapidly (older and obese), I decided to drop 30 lbs.

[DarrinS]

When I saw a relative of mine decline rapidly (older and obese), I decided to drop 30 lbs.

As it turns out, ridiculously easy to do.

[ElNono]

The two they have are not a disadvantage. It's not like conservatives are strapped down and forced to watch Maddow Clockwork Orange style.

Don't forget Sinclair also

[Chris]

As it turns out, ridiculously easy to do.

yup 3 days a week of light cardio 1-2 months and lots of water :tu

[DarrinS]

yup 3 days a week of light cardio 1-2 months and lots of water :tu

Actually, calorie deficit worked way faster for me. But, that's just me.

[Chris]

Actually, calorie deficit worked way faster for me. But, that's just me.

I fasted for the first 8 hours everday and did my workout right before I ate. Lost weight super fast

[Blake]

Being old AND fat is a terrible combo.

Darrin's herd immunity death panel

[DarrinS]

Darrin's herd immunity death panel

???

[Winehole23]

When I saw a relative of mine decline rapidly (older and obese), I decided to drop 30 lbs.all i had to do was lose my car and ride a bike instead.Lost 50 lbs in 2-3 years riding 10 miles round trip to work, five days/week. Plus rando bike rides.

Full change of carefully ironed and folded clothes in the backback, small alcohol spray bottle for pre preprandial ablution.

When your bicycle is your main means of transportation, you drop weight fast.

[DarrinS]

all i had to do was lose my car and ride a bike instead.Lost 50 lbs in 2-3 years riding 10 miles round trip to work, five days/week. Plus rando bike rides.

Full change of carefully ironed and folded clothes in the backback, small alcohol spray bottle for pre preprandial ablution.

When your bicycle is your main means of transportation, you drop weight fast.


I'd do that, but I'm not really in an area safe for cyclists. No shoulder on these roads nearby.

[Winehole23]

I'd do that, but I'm not really in an area safe for cyclists. No shoulder on these roads nearby.I learned as a kid in the 1970s and relearned in the last ten years. Don't take a stupid chance, but be ready to ditch at all times and you gotta be aggressive on your bike.

Take your space. Project your intentions. Obey the laws of traffic, unless it's inappropriate to do so.

You can tell when they want to run over you if you watch carefully.

Take a big chance and don't fuck up.

[Winehole23]

and good god, ride on the fucking sidewalk if the street is too dangerous

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1291024847343149059?s=19

[RandomGuy]

all i had to do was lose my car and ride a bike instead.Lost 50 lbs in 2-3 years riding 10 miles round trip to work, five days/week. Plus rando bike rides.

Full change of carefully ironed and folded clothes in the backback, small alcohol spray bottle for pre preprandial ablution.

When your bicycle is your main means of transportation, you drop weight fast.

my 41 mile commute on I35... not feasible. Although most rush hours, the bike wouldn't take much longer than the car...

[hater]

https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1291024847343149059?s=19

:lmao another day

[leemajors]

It’s happening to every American. We deserve a president who doesn’t go out golfing while Americans are dying by the thousands daily.

Or legislative bodies that take a summer recess during a pandemic?

[Trill Clinton]

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[pgardn]

I'm inclined to think initial viral load at time of infection may be one of the more important factors.

from a molecular viewpoint this virus is quite simple. so in addition to what you added I am thinking this thing is extraordinarily efficient at binding to epithelial cells and other cells associated with the respiratory tract

The binding protein is not extraordinary so it must fit to host cell protein(s) really well. The dynamic model that I think of is putting a bunch of different plastic shapes together in a big mixing pot and shaking them and then pulling out the ones that are stuck together and finding out a very clear pattern between the shapes that bind. and then finding out you don’t need to do much shaking for them to bind surprisingly quickly.

these viruses don’t know ahead of time what type of shape to make but they have a general shape that works (coronavirus family). every once in a while you get a mutation that works extraordinarily well, I think that’s what we’ve got. In three or four years we will probably know and find my model is very simplistic, But basically fits the aforementioned description.

or maybe a virologist comes in punches me in the face for the above.

[DMC]

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Joe Cool

rich white man good now

[DMC]

and good god, ride on the fucking sidewalk if the street is too dangerous

Austin bike riders seem to ignore stop signs and bike lanes. They ride like they are the only people on the road. It's no wonder they get destroyed sometimes.

[DMC]

If it's true that 20m people have/had COVID, even if no one died from COVID, there would still be 176K deaths from that group in a year.

RG math incoming..

US has a death rate of about 860 per 100K peeps. 20m people would be 860x200. That's 172K deaths. That's non-covid deaths. So if you count everyone who died with COVID as someone who died OF COVID (not that it's being done everywhere), you'd still have roughly the same deaths you have now. We know it's not that one sided, but counting method is important when large numbers come into play. This is especially true if you're going to shit yourself over daily returns.


What conclusions do you draw therefrom, Profe?

[hater]

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Joe Cool

CRINGE

[Winehole23]

Austin bike riders seem to ignore stop signs and bike lanes. They ride like they are the only people on the road. It's no wonder they get destroyed sometimes.I'm sure you wouldn't know a thing about it.

[Winehole23]

Good luck to DMC with that coy garbage

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1291371568225017856?s=20

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1291371568225017856?s=20


I want to buy Greenland from Norway

:lol

[RandomGuy]

If it's true that 20m people have/had COVID, even if no one died from COVID, there would still be 176K deaths from that group in a year.

RG math incoming..

US has a death rate of about 860 per 100K peeps. 20m people would be 860x200. That's 172K deaths. That's non-covid deaths. So if you count everyone who died with COVID as someone who died OF COVID (not that it's being done everywhere), you'd still have roughly the same deaths you have now. We know it's not that one sided, but counting method is important when large numbers come into play. This is especially true if you're going to shit yourself over daily returns.

Sooooo "COVID killing a lot of extra people isn't bad because people die anyway"?? That is my best guess as to what kind of non-take you are trying for here.

Not sure you need "RG math" so much as coaching on how to organize and present coherent thoughts.

[Reck]

CRINGE

Which part?

[ChumpDumper]

Sooooo "COVID killing a lot of extra people isn't bad because people die anyway"?? That is my best guess as to what kind of non-take you are trying for here.

Not sure you need "RG math" so much as coaching on how to organize and present coherent thoughts.You can see why I could only grant him derisive LMAOs for such a stupid spin attempt.

[RandomGuy]

You can see why I could only grant him derisive LMAOs for such a stupid spin attempt.

Yeah, not sure that really merited much. It was a mild departure from [strawman] or [ankle bite], I guess. He almost had a take on something...

Almost.

[RandomGuy]

mad :lol

:lol nope. bemused at how much you suck ass, and how much you betray your supposed faith on a regular basis.

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1291371568225017856?s=20
What’s inaccurate about this? The black community is largely homogeneous in terms of its beliefs/politics/etc. and the Hispanic community isn’t. Mexicans and Cubans are almost opposite in terms of political ideology.

Time for the Trumptards to step up their game in finding bad Biden gafs, this one’s pretty weak.

[ChumpDumper]

What’s inaccurate about this? The black community is largely homogeneous in terms of its beliefs/politics/etc. and the Hispanic community isn’t. Mexicans and Cubans are almost opposite in terms of political ideology.

Time for the Trumptards to step up their game in finding bad Biden gafs, this one’s pretty weak.The blacks will have to vote for Trump now!

[Reck]

What’s inaccurate about this? The black community is largely homogeneous in terms of its beliefs/politics/etc. and the Hispanic community isn’t. Mexicans and Cubans are almost opposite in terms of political ideology.

Time for the Trumptards to step up their game in finding bad Biden gafs, this one’s pretty weak.

That's the thing. They're now grasping at straws.

A video in which Biden is explaining his love for convertables is now "cringey" for some reason.

I think it was you who said it, but the more Trump and his campaign try to paint Biden as this ultra fragile old man who cant walk or talk and then people see him putting up coherent sentences, driving, etc, they'll be like this guy is competent.

Amazing how the trump campaign went from being very effectively in 2016 to being extremely shit in 2020.

[Nathan89]

What’s inaccurate about this? The black community is largely homogeneous in terms of its beliefs/politics/etc. and the Hispanic community isn’t. Mexicans and Cubans are almost opposite in terms of political ideology.

Time for the Trumptards to step up their game in finding bad Biden gafs, this one’s pretty weak.

The video is accurate tbh. I just know people won't like it. It's Biden related and I wanted to post it so I put it here.

[ChumpDumper]

The video is accurate tbh. I just know people won't like it. It's Biden related and I wanted to post it so I put it here.Nathan thirsty for det black vote.

[Nathan89]

Nathan thirsty for det black vote.

I'd be happy if black Americans recognized Democrats for what they are tbh

[hater]

The video is accurate tbh. I just know people won't like it. It's Biden related and I wanted to post it so I put it here.

Keep doing it niga

Distractionary tactics will not be tolerated in this thread

[ChumpDumper]

I'd be happy if black Americans recognized Democrats for what they are tbhWhich is what?

[Will Hunting]

That's the thing. They're now grasping at straws.

A video in which Biden is explaining his love for convertables is now "cringey" for some reason.

I think it was you who said it, but the more Trump and his campaign try to paint Biden as this ultra fragile old man who cant walk or talk and then people see him putting up coherent sentences, driving, etc, they'll be like this guy is competent.

Amazing how the trump campaign went from being very effectively in 2016 to being extremely shit in 2020.
Bannon might be a piece of shit but his management of the 2016 Trump campaign was political mastery. I’m not sure what her actual role is now but Conway was also able to reign Trump in when she needed to. Not having them has hurt his campaign a lot.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1291371568225017856?s=20

Good Lord bring on the debates :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Nathan thirsty for det black vote.

Let's not got crazy now it's not that they want the blacks to vote (That's a dangerous precedent for them.) He wants them to stay home like 2016


I'd be happy if black Americans recognized Democrats for what they are tbh
See

[Will Hunting]

The video is accurate tbh. I just know people won't like it. It's Biden related and I wanted to post it so I put it here.
Even after black people discover that’s Pelosi, Schumer and Biden don’t give enough of a shit about the black community, they’ll then realize Democrats are still willing to throw more bread crumbs in their direction than Republicans are.

[Trainwreck2100]

Even after black people discover that’s Pelosi, Schumer and Biden don’t give enough of a shit about the black community, they’ll then realize Democrats are still willing to throw more bread crumbs in their direction than Republicans are.
I'll give the Republicans this much, they'll shit on the poor regardless of race. The only color they see is green

[spurraider21]

I'll give the Republicans this much, they'll shit on the poor regardless of race. The only color they see if green
that's true. but they have a separate hard-on for minorities

[Will Hunting]

that's true. but they have a separate hard-on for minorities
They have to, that’s what makes poor white people think Republicans care about them. In reality the likes of Tom Cotton and DJT think poor white people are just as worthless as they think poor black people are.

[hater]

I'll give the Republicans this much, they'll shit on the poor regardless of race. The only color they see is green

:lmao you really think democrats are any different????

[spurraider21]

:lmao you really think democrats are any different????
which party advocates for increasing wages, access to medicare/medicaid?

[pgardn]

:lmao you really think democrats are any different????

The Putin supporter pretending to show compassion and adding a heavy dose of cynicism aimed at American political leaders.

gtfoh

like you care...

[RandomGuy]

I'll give the Republicans this much, they'll shit on the poor regardless of race. The only color they see is green

Their only idea is holding on to power.

[hater]

which party advocates for increasing wages, access to medicare/medicaid?

Which party bullshits that they care about minorities and the poor?

[Chris]

Even after black people discover that’s Pelosi, Schumer and Biden don’t give enough of a shit about the black community, they’ll then realize Democrats are still willing to throw more bread crumbs in their direction than Republicans are.

mein neger

[spurraider21]

Which party bullshits that they care about minorities and the poor?
great non answer

[hater]

great non answer

Ditto

[spurraider21]

Ditto
i would say both parties bullshit to a fairly large degree, but the dems do at least advocate for helpful policies

now answer my question from above

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MuffinAndElliot/status/1291385916641013761?s=19

:lmao. Ma negros toe the line


:lmao. Another day

[hater]

i would say both parties bullshit to a fairly large degree, but the dems do at least advocate for helpful policies

now answer my question from above

Edit your post to say "pretend to advocate" and i agree

[spurraider21]

Edit your post to say "pretend to advocate" and i agree
are you saying democrats dont have a history of pushing for higher wages and access to medicaid/medicare?

we can look at where wages are higher, and which administrations have passed legislation expanding medicaid to look it up if you have questions

i dont think they go far enough in some areas (i'm not a big fan of the pelosi/schumer/biden party myself), but unquestionably more than republicans who have held office

[baseline bum]

They have to, that’s what makes poor white people think Republicans care about them. In reality the likes of Tom Cotton and DJT think poor white people are just as worthless as they think poor black people are.

Pretty much. They have to make white people think they're extra special for the color of their skin.

[hater]

are you saying democrats dont have a history of pushing for higher wages and access to medicaid/medicare?

we can look at where wages are higher, and which administrations have passed legislation expanding medicaid to look it up if you have questions

i dont think they go far enough in some areas (i'm not a big fan of the pelosi/schumer/biden party myself), but unquestionably more than republicans who have held office

At some point they probably did. But in the last 15 or so years.

Democrats have pretended to be democrat

[Winehole23]

I think this is the information DMC was trying to describe?

https://healthcostinstitute.org/annual-reports/daily-deaths-during-coronavirus-pandemic-by-state

[spurraider21]

At some point they probably did. But in the last 15 or so years.

Democrats have pretended to be democrat
medicaid expansion was as recent as 2014

look at wages around the country. look at which members of congress call for federal min wage increases.

[ElNono]

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not sure who's older, Joe or the car, tbh

[Will Hunting]

not sure who's older, Joe or the car, tbh
I don’t think cars were even around when Joe was born :lol

(that was a joke for anyone who thinks I’m serious)

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/MuffinAndElliot/status/1291385916641013761?s=19

:lmao. Ma negros toe the line


:lmao. Another day
It was a stupid thing to say but it’s not wrong, blacks are a lot more homogeneous than Latinos in terms of opinions/ideology.

Joe should just avoid the topic of black people, every time he talks about the black community it’s unintentionally racist or at the least condescending.

[spurraider21]

It was a stupid thing to say but it’s not wrong, blacks are a lot more homogeneous than Latinos in terms of opinions/ideology.

Joe should just avoid the topic of black people, every time he talks about the black community it’s unintentionally racist or at the least condescending.
biden's just trying to win the election on hard difficulty

[Winehole23]

It was a stupid thing to say but it’s not wrong, blacks are a lot more homogeneous than Latinos in terms of opinions/ideology.

Joe should just avoid the topic of black people, every time he talks about the black community it’s unintentionally racist or at the least condescending."Gaffe prone" we used say. He's still got it.

[Will Hunting]

biden's just trying to win the election on hard difficulty
Tall task when the incumbent has double digit unemployment and 160k dead Americans, but Biden seems up for it.

[hater]

It was a stupid thing to say but it’s not wrong, blacks are a lot more homogeneous than Latinos in terms of opinions/ideology.

Joe should just avoid the topic of black people, every time he talks about the black community it’s unintentionally racist or at the least condescending.

You could say the same thing about whites

Or indians

Or asians

Yes its a very stupid thing to say

[Will Hunting]

You could say the same thing about whites

Or indians

Or asians

Yes its a very stupid thing to say
No you can’t. 95% of all whites don’t support the same political party. Black Americans do as a whole have a very homogenous set of values and opinions compared to that of other races. It doesn’t mean they’re all sheep who are programmed to think the same way however Biden fucked hinself by saying it in a way where it can easily be misconstrued.

It was really dumb because there was no need to contrast black people with Latinos. He could have just said the Latino community has a diversity of beliefs and opinions without contrasting it with the black community. It’s like he can’t stop himself from mixing an ignorant comment about black people in everything he says.

[spurraider21]

No you can’t. 95% of all whites don’t support the same political party. Black Americans do as a whole have a very homogenous set of values and opinions compared to that of other races. It doesn’t mean they’re all sheep who are programmed to think the same way however Biden fucked hinself by saying it in a way where it can easily be misconstrued.

It was really dumb because there was no need to contrast black people with Latinos. He could have just said the Latino community has a diversity of beliefs and opinions without contrasting it with the black community. It’s like he can’t stop himself from mixing an ignorant comment about black people in everything he says.
isnt that what you argue all the time?

[Will Hunting]

isnt that what you argue all the time?
Yeah, never said it’s not. I’m saying in this particular instance it’s not necessarily what Biden is saying.

[baseline bum]

"Gaffe prone" we used say. He's still got it.

How is this even a thing when Trump is the president? 160k dead = it is what is is

[ChumpDumper]

How is this even a thing when Trump is the president? 160k dead = it is what is is
Trump today: "Thighland and Vietnam..."

Joe will "hurt God."

:lol

[pgardn]

At some point they probably did. But in the last 15 or so years.

Democrats have pretended to be democrat

Like you are some kind of arbiter able to discuss what REALLY hurts people.
You don’t give a shit and you never have.

[Will Hunting]

How is this even a thing when Trump is the president? 160k dead = it is what is is
In scenarios where Trump fucks 50 things up and you fuck 1 thing up, he’s an expert at getting people to focus on the 1 thing and ignore the 50. This kind of stuff just makes it easier and should be avoided. Biden’s campaign needs to coach him on being more milquetoast on touchy subjects where he has nothing to gain.

[Reck]

This just doesn’t register with voters when we have much bigger things to worry about like COVID for instance. Or how do we handle opening schools.

Or how to not keep sinking the economy. Congress and Trump are still arguing about what should be in the next round of the stimulus package.

So yeah this is a blip on what matters.

[Trainwreck2100]

How is this even a thing when Trump is the president? 160k dead = it is what is is

yo-semites

"you can't do that"

[hater]

Trump today: "Thighland and Vietnam..."

Joe will "hurt God."

:lol

Whataboutism

[Reck]

yo-semites

"you can't do that"

Biden will destroy God.

[ElNono]

Whataboutism

It's a two man race, tbh

[ChumpDumper]

Biden will destroy God.Even if Joe can only hurt God like Trump says he can, that's the kind of powerful leader America needs.

[DarrinS]

Biden is well spoken and very inspiring. Very sharp mind.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden is well spoken and very inspiring. Very sharp mind.Has he ever been to Thighland tho?

[Will Hunting]

Has he ever been to Thighland tho?
I think he went after he visited yo-semite park.

[Reck]

Has he ever been to Thighland tho?

Forget Thighland. How how the United sheetz of Murica?

[Chris]

Forget Thighland. How how the United sheetz of Murica?

Stop.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol sensitive

[Reck]

Stop.

Does it bother you that the president can’t even put simple words together well?

[Reck]

I mean the guy can’t even pronounce origins right.



https://youtu.be/qUPsNgmXR7M

Oranges :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I mean the guy can’t even pronounce origins right.



https://youtu.be/qUPsNgmXR7M

Oranges :lol


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