John Kasich to Speak at Democratic Convention

[Will Hunting]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/who-will-speak-at-dnc-392533

:lol what a fucking attention whoring opportunist Kasich is and what a joke the Democratic Party is, this has shades of 2008 Joe Lieberman.

Kasich only became a never Trumper after he stayed in the 2016 Republican primary way after he had no shot to screw over Cruz/Rubio only for Trump to never return the favor. Now that he hasn't held office since the 2018 election and has no political relevance, he's going for one more "LOOK AT ME EVERYONE!" stunt.

[ducks]

What he is not black though just a white old dude

[Will Hunting]

What he is not black though just a white old dude
He's a Republican. He shouldn't be speaking at the Democratic convention, this has nothing to do with race.

Your birth certificate is probably an apology letter from the condom factory.

[Reck]

I dont think anyone---Or I should say the majority of people will even watch these remote conventions.

The main draw is the crowd and the delegates in person. No one wants to watch pre-recorded shit.

[Spurs Homer]

Fuck kasich

fuck the idiot dems

[Will Hunting]

I dont think anyone---Or I should say the majority of people will even watch these remote conventions.

The main draw is the crowd and the delegates in person. No one wants to watch pre-recorded shit.
They probably won't have the same effect since it's largely the crowd/energy/etc. the creates the post-convention polling bump, but don't forget how bored people are right now. I think plenty will watch.

This has a lot more downside than upside....Kasich is at this point a leper in his own party and isn't going to swing a bunch of votes. Meanwhile the BernieBros on twitter are already throwing a fit about this.

[hater]

Will biden speak? :lmao

[Reck]

They probably won't have the same effect since it's largely the crowd/energy/etc. the creates the post-convention polling bump, but don't forget how bored people are right now. I think plenty will watch.

This has a lot more downside than upside....Kasich is at this point a leper in his own party and isn't going to swing a bunch of votes. Meanwhile the BernieBros on twitter are already throwing a fit about this.

Just wait until they see this.

1291506315873914886

:lol

But I will say this makes a bit more sense since she's from Florida and that's a state that should definitely be targeted. I'm just not sure she's a difference maker. She's basically a nobody as far as I'm concern.

[Will Hunting]

Just wait until they see this.

1291506315873914886

:lol

But I will say this makes a bit more sense since she's from Florida and that's a state that should definitely be targeted. I'm just not sure she's a difference maker. She's basically a nobody as far as I'm concern.
Yeah that's different, it's targeted towards a niche demographic in a swing state. Kasich is politically irrelevant, it looks like they just asked him for the purpose of having a Republican.

Hopefully they manage the content of his speech. If they let him start pitching tax cuts the BernieBros will lose it :lol

[baseline bum]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/who-will-speak-at-dnc-392533

:lol what a fucking attention whoring opportunist Kasich is and what a joke the Democratic Party is, this has shades of 2008 Joe Lieberman.

Kasich only became a never Trumper after he stayed in the 2016 Republican primary way after he had no shot to screw over Cruz/Rubio only for Trump to never return the favor. Now that he hasn't held office since the 2018 election and has no political relevance, he's going for one more "LOOK AT ME EVERYONE!" stunt.

Uday tried to recruit Kasich to be VP and be in control of domestic and foreign policy per the NY Times.

[Spurtacular]

I dont think anyone---Or I should say the majority of people will even watch these remote conventions.

The main draw is the crowd and the delegates in person. No one wants to watch pre-recorded shit.

You don't want to watch three days of Orange Man bad?

[ElNono]

I like Kasich, but these are the unforced errors the DNC makes which remove enthusiasm to go out there to vote for this guy... smh

[SnakeBoy]

This is the kind of smart move that makes me consider crossing over for Biden

[Spurtacular]

I like Kasich

Of course you do. You love all the RINOs.

[ElNono]

Of course you do. You love all the RINOs.

I love centrists, sure. Why would I care Republicans think he's not one of their own?

[Spurtacular]

This is the kind of smart move that makes me consider crossing over for Biden

You make a habit of following the lead of butthurt has beens?

[Spurtacular]

Meanwhile, no AOC?

https://theweek.com/speedreads/929999/biden-campaign-reportedly-making-ruthless-cuts-convention-speaking-list

[Will Hunting]

Meanwhile, no AOC?

https://theweek.com/speedreads/929999/biden-campaign-reportedly-making-ruthless-cuts-convention-speaking-list
Jesus fucking Christ, they're having Hillary speak!?!?! I guess that's not much of a surprise given her influence over the party, but her public speaking skills are fucking dreadful. One of the reasons people hate her so much.

EDIT: Reading that whole article, what they're doing is insulting to progressives. It's almost a deliberate effort to give them the finger.

[DarrinS]

Still a free country, so John Kaisch can do what he wants.

[Will Hunting]

Still a free country, so John Kaisch can do what he wants.
What a pointless strawman.

[DarrinS]

What a pointless strawman.

Ok then. Carry on

[Millennial_Messiah]

Arlen Specter 2.0

[Spurtacular]

Reading that whole article, what they're doing is insulting to progressives. It's almost a deliberate effort to give them the finger.

Almost?

For what it's worth, AOC bent the knee. She's a inorganic store bought progressive anyways.

[Spurtacular]

Jesus fucking Christ, they're having Hillary speak!?!?! I guess that's not much of a surprise given her influence over the party, but her public speaking skills are fucking dreadful. One of the reasons people hate her so much.

The last presidential nominee is a headliner. I don't know why that should surprise you.

And her public speaking is pretty low on the list of why people hate her.

[Will Hunting]

Almost?

For what it's worth, AOC bent the knee. She's a fake store bought progressive anyways.
I say almost because I’m not sure if it is deliberate or if the Biden campaign is duplicating the Hillary campaign’s arrogance in just assuming progressives will show up and vote no matter what.

Regarding AOC, she’s not as fake store bought as Bernie (yet). If she bent the knee that much they’d give her a speaking gig and feed her bullshit lines about uniting the party. Bernie should say he’s not speaking unless AOC gets a slot, but god knows he’s too invested in the Biden cuck fest for that.

Still though, I probably shouldn’t be so surprised but giving Hillary a slot is unadulterated stupidity. It wouldn’t even occur to me as something to do.

[ElNono]

Jesus fucking Christ, they're having Hillary speak!?!?! I guess that's not much of a surprise given her influence over the party, but her public speaking skills are fucking dreadful. One of the reasons people hate her so much.

EDIT: Reading that whole article, what they're doing is insulting to progressives. It's almost a deliberate effort to give them the finger.

Why would they have such an unlikeable, loser like Shillary speaking? oh wait, Reck still with her... smh

[DarrinS]

Thank you, Drunk Captain Obvious!

Hi

[Will Hunting]

The last presidential nominee is a headliner. I don't know why that should surprise you.

And her public speaking is pretty low on the list of why people hate her.

Mike Dukakis didn’t speak at the 1992 convention iirc, and Shitt Romney didn’t speak in 2016. Id say both of those situations worked out fine. This convention is also virtual and its being cut for time, it’s not like a normal convention where anyone with a notable party role speaks.

Her public speaking isn’t why conservatives such as yourself dislike her, but it is a big reason why swing voters who pay very little attention to politics don’t like her. She doesn’t have a very warm personality the way her husband does - when she speaks it’s like nails on a chalkboard. Who exactly are they trying to appeal to with her? Anyone who actually wants to hear Shillary talk is already voting for Biden.

[Reck]

Why would they have such an unlikeable, loser like Shillary speaking? oh wait, Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) still with her... smh

We should all be with her. Look what we have now. Enjoy your 200 thounsad dead.

2020 and I still dont get the hard on you people have for this woman.

[Will Hunting]

We should all be with her. Look what we have now. Enjoy your 200 thounsad dead.

2020 and I still dont get the hard on you people have for this woman.
Id much rather her be handling COVID than Trump, all I was reacting to was her being a speaker. I was largely surprised and reacted so sharply because her speaking didn’t even occur to me as a possibility.

She can’t help herself in expressing her butthurtedness over 2016 every time she’s given a platform. There’s a greater than 0% chance she uses her convention speech as a time to cry one more time about how it was everyone else’s fault but hers for losing.

[ElNono]

We should all be with her. Look what we have now.

She's the reason we have Trump. Don't try to twist it around.

[Reck]

Id much rather her be handling COVID than Trump, all I was reacting to was her being a speaker. I was largely surprised and reacted so sharply because her speaking didn’t even occur to me as a possibility.

She can’t help herself in expressing her butthurtedness over 2016 every time she’s given a platform. There’s a greater than 0% chance she uses her convention speech as a time to cry one more time about how it was everyone else’s fault but hers for losing.

I have zero problems with what you said. It's well deserved.

I was speaking more to El. He always seems to think I'm her biggest fan or something.

Since 2016 you can count the times I have brought up her name in a sentence with one hand. She just doesn't figure in my daily routine.

But a lot of posters here do think about the woman a hell of a lot. But if it was Hillary against Trump I would vote for her every time. Duh.

[DMC]

We should all be with her. Look what we have now. Enjoy your 200 thounsad dead.

2020 and I still dont get the hard on you people have for this woman.

We didn't run her for POTUS.

[ElNono]

I have zero problems with what you said. It's well deserved.

I was speaking more to El. He always seems to think I'm her biggest fan or something.

You should definitely like or dislike whoever you want, tbh... it's the false dichotomy of the lesser of two evils.

You might want to rate one more evil than the other, that doesn't make the other any less shitty and evil though.

So the notion we should've supported Shillary because we would get Trump is a fallacy. We largely got Trump because Shillary was the other candidate.

IMVHO, you should be similarly upset (or if not upset, really pointing out there's something really wrong with the DNC that props candidates like him) with people that voted milquetoast Biden in the primaries.

This is turned out to be probably the easiest, close to slam dunk presidential election in decades, and somehow Biden is well within margins to fuck it up.

[DarrinS]

]Id much rather her be handling COVID than Trump, all I was reacting to was her being a speaker. I was largely surprised and reacted so sharply because her speaking didn’t even occur to me as a possibility.

She can’t help herself in expressing her butthurtedness over 2016 every time she’s given a platform. There’s a greater than 0% chance she uses her convention speech as a time to cry one more time about how it was everyone else’s fault but hers for losing.



Seriously? I'd take Biden and whatever running mate, vs this pandemic.

[DarrinS]

I mean, I respect the honesty of admitting you care more about politics than the disease.

[Will Hunting]

You should definitely like or dislike whoever you want, tbh... it's the false dichotomy of the lesser of two evils.

You might want to rate one more evil than the other, that doesn't make the other any less shitty and evil though.

So the notion we should've supported Shillary because we would get Trump is a fallacy. We largely got Trump because Shillary was the other candidate.

IMVHO, you should be similarly upset (or if not upset, really pointing out there's something really wrong with the DNC that props candidates like him) with people that voted milquetoast Biden in the primaries.

This is turned out to be probably the easiest, close to slam dunk presidential election in decades, and somehow Biden is well within margins to fuck it up.
Yeah the idea that Biden being up 8 points somehow makes him a great candidate is bullshit, that polling bump comes from 6 months of Trump running around in his adult diaper shitting all over the place while Biden’s done nothing. If we actually had a candidate who gave people a reason to vote (and no, I don’t mean Bernie, I mean one of the plethora of candidates like Booker, Beto or even Yang) Trump would be down by 12+%.

[Reck]

and somehow Biden is well within margins to fuck it up.

Last I saw the poll of polls the averages has him above the margin of error twice over.

re Hillary in terms of who's worse or more "evil" as you put it, I'm sorry man but I cant see it. Agree to disagree.

There is no way she's more twisted than Trump. The guy got elected based on her being a terrible candidate as you said but also due in fact because people gave him the benefit of the doubt as the unknown candidate promising to blow shit up. He came through with the last bit for sure.

[Will Hunting]

Seriously? I'd take Biden and whatever running mate, vs this pandemic.
Huh? What I said had nothing to do with politics. I know it might shock you but I genuinely think Trump has massively fucked this up and pretty much any other potential candidate, including Hillary, would have done a much better job containing COVID.

I remember thinking Bill Maher was ridiculous for saying that a Trump presidency would have Libs begging to get GWB back but he was right. I’d be fucking thrilled with GWB instead of Trump handling this crisis.

[Spurtacular]

Mike Dukakis didn’t speak at the 1992 convention iirc, and Shitt Romney didn’t speak in 2016. Id say both of those situations worked out fine. This convention is also virtual and its being cut for time, it’s not like a normal convention where anyone with a notable party role speaks.

Her public speaking isn’t why conservatives such as yourself dislike her, but it is a big reason why swing voters who pay very little attention to politics don’t like her. She doesn’t have a very warm personality the way her husband does - when she speaks it’s like nails on a chalkboard. Who exactly are they trying to appeal to with her? Anyone who actually wants to hear Shillary talk is already voting for Biden.

Mike Dukakis was a train wreck. I'm guessing it was a personal choice to stay away though. Hillary would never have made that choice.
And Mitt stayed away for the same reason Dubya did. He's a RINO with TDS.

Sure some of Dems are outright repelled by her shrill voice. But a greater many still hero worship her, tbh. Look no further than Wreck as well as Cherp and Blerp.
I'd say Hillary could make a difference for Biden in theory; but I imagine her going the Chris Christie route and spending her time talking about herself.

[Spurtacular]

I say almost because I’m not sure if it is deliberate or if the Biden campaign is duplicating the Hillary campaign’s arrogance in just assuming progressives will show up and vote no matter what.

Regarding AOC, she’s not as fake store bought as Bernie (yet). If she bent the knee that much they’d give her a speaking gig and feed her bullshit lines about uniting the party. Bernie should say he’s not speaking unless AOC gets a slot, but god knows he’s too invested in the Biden cuck fest for that.

Still though, I probably shouldn’t be so surprised but giving Hillary a slot is unadulterated stupidity. It wouldn’t even occur to me as something to do.

AOC bent the knee to Pelosi. Don't kids yourself. Yea, Bernie cucks it up. Biden wants as many of his voters as he can get. AOC doesn't have a following that Biden needs to cypher. She's just a trope for the media.

[SnakeBoy]

You make a habit of following the lead of butthurt has beens?

All I can tell you is if Biden picks Kasich as his VP I will crossover and vote for him

[Spurtacular]

All I can tell you is if Biden picks Kasich as his VP I will crossover and vote for him

He ain't gonna be the VP nominee. He's just speaking at the convention.

But :lol at voting for the under card either way.

[Dirks_Finale]

Biden is well within margins to fuck it up.And his gaffes are just getting started as they will eventually have to pull him out of his basement.

He may be an even worse candidate than Hillary. At least Hillary was pretty quick on her feet in debate.

[ChumpDumper]

Have you guys been watching Trump this past week?

[DarrinS]

And his gaffes are just getting started as they will eventually have to pull him out of his basement.

He may be an even worse candidate than Hillary. At least Hillary was pretty quick on her feet in debate.


Biden is the oldest candidate ever. Older than Reagan as he left office.

[DarrinS]

But, the people have selected their candidate.

[DarrinS]

Did you even read what he said? :lmao

Guys, Darrin might be drunk right now.

https://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/038/787/4d4.jpg

[Dirks_Finale]

Turning 78 in NOV with serious signs of cognitive decline...I think the DNC is twisting his arm to select Michelle Obama as VP. Put's the democratic base at ease.


Biden is the oldest candidate ever. Older than Reagan as he left office.

[spurraider21]

We didn't run her for POTUS.
Who is we

[spurraider21]

I say almost because I’m not sure if it is deliberate or if the Biden campaign is duplicating the Hillary campaign’s arrogance in just assuming progressives will show up and vote no matter what.

Regarding AOC, she’s not as fake store bought as Bernie (yet). If she bent the knee that much they’d give her a speaking gig and feed her bullshit lines about uniting the party. Bernie should say he’s not speaking unless AOC gets a slot, but god knows he’s too invested in the Biden cuck fest for that.

Still though, I probably shouldn’t be so surprised but giving Hillary a slot is unadulterated stupidity. It wouldn’t even occur to me as something to do.
I don’t get this sellout stuff.

Bernie recognizes that Trump 2020 is the big danger, and right now supporting Biden is the most effective way to avoid that danger. Bernie has already done a lot to influence Biden’s platform

The last thing progressives should want is for the Bernie’s and AOCs to tell team Biden to fuck off only to have Biden win anyway and prove that they have no incentive to placate progressives

[ElNono]

Last I saw the poll of polls the averages has him above the margin of error twice over.

I mean Trump is going to have 200k dead americans going into November, can't stop putting foot in mouth, and Biden has, what, 7% lead nationally? Are you comfortable with that?

And you have to be careful with the margin of error on polls. They don't account for disenfranchised voters, for example.

The question is how is Joe not leading comfortably by double digits? At this point, Trump needs to have 1 good month somehow and he's right back in it after fucking up for 6+ months.

And please, refrain from telling me that's the voters' fault. Old Joe has been in the freezer for 6 months, he still hasn't picked a VP that could be a voice for him out there, etc.

Like Wino said, we're 3 month before the election and I've yet to meet a Biden fan in the wild.


re Hillary in terms of who's worse or more "evil" as you put it, I'm sorry man but I cant see it. Agree to disagree.

There is no way she's more twisted than Trump. The guy got elected based on her being a terrible candidate as you said but also due in fact because people gave him the benefit of the doubt as the unknown candidate promising to blow shit up. He came through with the last bit for sure.

This is the sliding scale I'm talking about. Let's pretend Shillary is indeed less evil than Trump and more competent. She's still an unlikeable bitch, power hungry, and despicable.

It would've been nice when she tried to run again after Obama wiped the floor with her, for somebody on the DNC to tell her that's a bad idea. Same thing with Biden.

[Will Hunting]

I don’t get this sellout stuff.

Bernie recognizes that Trump 2020 is the big danger, and right now supporting Biden is the most effective way to avoid that danger. Bernie has already done a lot to influence Biden’s platform

The last thing progressives should want is for the Bernie’s and AOCs to tell team Biden to fuck off only to have Biden win anyway and prove that they have no incentive to placate progressives
I agree they shouldn’t tell Biden to fuck off, but Bernie/AOC should have certain demands that need to be met for them the partner with Biden. They should say not a fucking chance they’re speaking at the convention if it’s gonna be a center right wing cuckfest with Kasich and Hillary as speakers.

[Will Hunting]

Turning 78 in NOV with serious signs of cognitive decline...I think the DNC is twisting his arm to select Michelle Obama as VP. Put's the democratic base at ease.
I’m not sure how this rumor hasn’t died yet. Michelle Obama said she has no interest in being VP. Chances are if she wanted to be VP it’d already be done.

[Spurtacular]

responding with non-sequiturs and milquetoast bullshit. Enjoy your morning bloody mary, you miserable drunk :lmao

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OmLzRKhdIYXPZoDWJ-JpwhZNTZaeGMAjP9-NFJ1ejVmuRw_gWjG7BvsEYtj_bEI3R-QfR3N-LamM0wPjpaQHLA=s480?rw

[Spurtacular]

This message is hidden because Spurtacular is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).



:lmao Slob gonna be the first person to ever have his participation prize revoked.

[Spurminator]

But, the people have selected their candidate.

You people selected Donald Trump twice.

Twice! :lmao

[Spurminator]

I don't love Hillary speaking at the convention, because I don't see anything to gain from it.

Kasich I get, if only to take a few segments of conservative media away from "riot coverage."

[ducks]

You people selected Donald Trump twice.

Twice! :lmao

He will be elected twice to be president of USA

[Spurminator]

He will be elected twice to be president of USA

A thing's popularity is not a sign of its virtue or intelligence.

Trump could win another election, then change the rules to stay President for life and pass the office down through his bloodline, and that might be supported by 40% of the country, but it doesn't make you and the rest of his cult any less retarded.

[Spurtacular]

I agree they shouldn’t tell Biden to fuck off, but Bernie/AOC should have certain demands that need to be met for them the partner with Biden. They should say not a fucking chance they’re speaking at the convention if it’s gonna be a center right wing cuckfest with Kasich and Hillary as speakers.

They're not real leaders. And AOC is spectacularly stupid at any rate.

[Spurtacular]

Trump could win another election, then change the rules to stay President for life and pass the office down through his bloodline

No Chumpette going call Sadbert out on this?

:lol

[Spurtacular]

I don't love Hillary speaking at the convention, because I don't see anything to gain from it.

Kasich I get, if only to take a few segments of conservative media away from "riot coverage."

Why is riots in quotes? Are you in denial about the riots?

[Chinook]

It sucks that conservatives and liberals are so comfortable being arm-in-arm right now. I understand it though. It did seem like before the Tea Party there was a "conservative you know" level of politician that I just got used to living in Texas my whole life. But at the same time, the country is as fucked up as it is precisely because guys like Biden and McCain have ALWAYS been like this. Like the real systemic issues in the country like the wealth gap, culture of violence, fetishizing of the military, genocidal interventionist foreign policy, etc. aren't the fault of one side or the other. Both sides shook on it, and they've been doing so for a long time. So Kasich speaking at the DNC or MSNBC loving the Lincoln Foundation is like players from different NBA teams working out together in the off-season. It's not really a sign of a change as much as an acknowledgment that they've been playing a game the whole time.

[Reck]

Jesus fucking Christ, they're having Hillary speak!?!?! I guess that's not much of a surprise given her influence over the party, but her public speaking skills are fucking dreadful. One of the reasons people hate her so much.

EDIT: Reading that whole article, what they're doing is insulting to progressives. It's almost a deliberate effort to give them the finger.

Both AOC and Bernie are speaking.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-convention-speakers-biden-vp-decision.amp

Whats funny is that a lot of the usual gang is listed but Hillary is not. Still they only list names for the first 2 nights so Hillary might yet sneak in.

Im fine with this list as long as you balance it with progressive people.

[Will Hunting]

Both AOC and Bernie are speaking.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-convention-speakers-biden-vp-decision.amp

Whats funny is that a lot of the usual gang is listed but Hillary is not. Still they only list names for the first 2 nights so Hillary might yet sneak in.

Im fine with this list as long as you balance it with progressive people.
Imo it’s a decent lineup overall. I predictably think Sherrod Brown should be a speaker, a convention with both him and Kasich speaking would give some swing voters in Ohio a hard on.

The black politicians screeching about how “he better pick a black lady as his VP!” like the one mentioned in the article need to shut the fuck up. He didn’t pledge to pick a black woman during the primary, he pledged to pick a woman. If they wanted a candidate to pick a black woman as the VP, they should have bitched about it during the primary, not with less than 90 days before the election. The endorsements Biden got from key black figures didn’t come with any covenants or conditions, they don’t get to impose them now.

[Reck]

The black politicians screeching about how “he better pick a black lady as his VP!” like the one mentioned in the article need to shut the fuck up. He didn’t pledge to pick a black woman during the primary, he pledged to pick a woman. If they wanted a candidate to pick a black woman as the VP, they should have bitched about it during the primary, not with less than 90 days before the election. The endorsements Biden got from key black figures didn’t come with any covenants or conditions, they don’t get to impose them now.

100% agree.

What I find most ironic is that they'd be proving Biden's comments right when he slipped and said latinos are more diversed. Threatening not to vote if he doesn't pick someone black, it proofs they're what they say they aren't, a monolith.

[Will Hunting]

100% agree.

What I find most ironic is that they'd be proving Biden's comments right when he slipped and said latinos are more diversed. Threatening not to vote if he doesn't pick someone black, it proofs they're what they say they aren't, a monolith.
Like it or not the country is still majority white, and white people vote more reliably than black people do. If they want their voice to be heard, they should vote more. Black voter participation fell 7% from 2012 to 2016 even though Hillary was the primary candidate blacks voted for and effectively ran as a 3rd Obama term.

It would be a much more productive exercise for black politicians to spend less time creating VP selection drama and more time telling their constituents to vote even if there aren’t any black people on the ticket.

[Reck]

1293145159090266113

Well Hillary won’t be a keynote speaker at least so she’s not likely to get relevant air time.

[Spurtacular]

Both AOC and Bernie are speaking.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-convention-speakers-biden-vp-decision.amp

Whats funny is that a lot of the usual gang is listed but Hillary is not. Still they only list names for the first 2 nights so Hillary might yet sneak in.

Im fine with this list as long as you balance it with progressive people.

:lol Fake Progressive Reck worried.

[Spurtacular]

1293145159090266113

Well Hillary won’t be a keynote speaker at least so she’s not likely to get relevant air time.

:lol Such a weak lineup.

[Will Hunting]

1293145159090266113

Well Hillary won’t be a keynote speaker at least so she’s not likely to get relevant air time.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/politics/democratic-national-convention-speakers/index.html

Looks like she’s getting a non keynote spot on Wednesday, and they’re not even giving her the spot right before the VP speech, it’s going to Warren :lol

Would have preferred she not speak at all, but glad they’re giving her a non important spot.

I don’t get why they still give air time to John Kerry. Who is he supposed to appeal to? He’s the one Democrat in the last 30 years who couldn’t even win the popular vote. There are so many better names out there.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Such a weak lineup.
Well shit, was really hoping you were going to say it was a strong lineup. Would have never guessed the alt right wasn’t going to like the speaker list at the Democratic Convention.

[Spurtacular]

Well shit, was really hoping you were going to say it was a strong lineup. Would have never guessed the alt right wasn’t going to like the speaker list at the Democratic Convention.

Two wives to go along with Barry and the zombie.
Search your heart, bro. You know I'm right.

[ChumpDumper]

Well shit, was really hoping you were going to say it was a strong lineup. Would have never guessed the alt right wasn’t going to like the speaker list at the Democratic Convention.Face it, we'll never top Scott Baio.

[Reck]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/politics/democratic-national-convention-speakers/index.html

Looks like she’s getting a non keynote spot on Wednesday, and they’re not even giving her the spot right before the VP speech, it’s going to Warren :lol

Would have preferred she not speak at all, but glad they’re giving her a non important spot.

I don’t get why they still give air time to John Kerry. Who is he supposed to appeal to? He’s the one Democrat in the last 30 years who couldn’t even win the popular vote. There are so many better names out there.

Not a bad lineup at all.

There are more women than men it appears. Keisha Bottoms has potential in my book. I’ll keep an eye on her. Hope she doesn’t become full establishment later on per par.

Also like Duckworth and Baldwin in there. Very solid people.

[Will Hunting]

Two wives to go along with Barry and the zombie.
Search your heart, bro. You know I'm right.
:lol Barry is a great speaker, as is Michelle. He left office with a 59% approval rating, like it or not he’s popular. It would be idiotic to not feature both of them prominently.

Jill Biden is milquetoast but the wife always speaks. I don’t expect great things but don’t see her being an albatross the way Ketchupwife was in 2004.

Who should they have picked as speakers in your opinion? Remember this is the Democratic convention, they can’t pick Tucker Carlson and Bill Mitchell as keynote speakers even though you might like them.

[Will Hunting]

Face it, we'll never top Scott Baio.
Or Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair.

[DMC]

Seriously? I'd take Biden and whatever running mate, vs this pandemic.

You misread. He said he would rather her deal with covid than Trump deal with covid.

[DMC]

Who is we

Why don't you read what I was responding to and it will answer your question.

5 minute rule

[spurraider21]

Why don't you read what I was responding to and it will answer your question.
did you primary against her?

[FrostKing]

Throw AOC in a low crop top and I'll tune in

[Will Hunting]

Throw AOC in a low crop top and I'll tune in
I’m glad there’s at least bipartisan agreement on her having fantastic tits :lol

[DMC]

We should all be with her. Look what we have now. Enjoy your 200 thounsad dead.

2020 and I still dont get the hard on you people have for this woman.


did you primary against her?

I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't understand how you do business as a lawyer if you can't understand basic English. Do you have this much trouble when you're dealing with your clients?

The post I'm responding to says "you people" and I say we didn't run her for POTUS. Then you come along and say who is we? Five-minute rule dude, be in the room 5 fucking minutes before you ask stupid questions.

[Will Hunting]

The fact Biden just announced a bunch of ex Obama staffers are going to be part of the VPs staff makes me worried that the pick is Susan Rice. Congrats to Trump supporters.

[DMC]

The fact Biden just announced a bunch of ex Obama staffers are going to be part of the VPs staff makes me worried that the pick is Susan Rice. Congrats to Trump supporters.

Det CoT

[spurraider21]

I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't understand how you do business as a lawyer if you can't understand basic English. Do you have this much trouble when you're dealing with your clients?

The post I'm responding to says "you people" and I say we didn't run her for POTUS. Then you come along and say who is we? Five-minute rule dude, be in the room 5 fucking minutes before you ask stupid questions.
bla bla bla. part of being an attorney is hearing your client's long sob story and cutting through the crap to get to the relevant points

you said "we didnt run her"

i'm asking if you primaried against her

[Reck]

The fact Biden just announced a bunch of ex Obama staffers are going to be part of the VPs staff makes me worried that the pick is Susan Rice. Congrats to Trump supporters.

You're falling into the conservative trap talking point.

Picking Susan Rice would be a shitty pick but it's not going to shift the election by any means.

Would you rather solidify your own base, the black voter etc or would you rather let republicans guide who you should pick? Biden's base is not a bunch of conservatives. They'll never going to vote for him in any significant percentage.

I'm tired of republicans driving the narrative with our own help.

[spurraider21]

You're falling into the conservative trap talking point.

Picking Susan Rice would be a shitty pick but it's not going to shift the election by any means.

Would you rather solidify your own base, the black voter etc or would you rather let republicans guide who you should pick? Biden's base is not a bunch of conservatives. They'll never going to vote for him in any significant percentage.

I'm tired of republicans driving the narrative with our own help.
its a bad choice because it just provides another target. one of the advantages biden has over hillary is that he has significantly less baggage, and so there's not a lot to attack there outside of pure policy, which trump doesn't really get into the weeds of (except hur dur socialism and anarchy)

VPs dont usually carry much weight, but Rice can be a potential target of attack whereas somebody like Duckworth would have been more bulletproof

[Reck]

its a bad choice because it just provides another target. one of the advantages biden has over hillary is that he has significantly less baggage, and so there's not a lot to attack there outside of pure policy, which trump doesn't really get into the weeds of (except hur dur socialism and anarchy)

VPs dont usually carry much weight, but Rice can be a potential target of attack whereas somebody like Duckworth would have been more bulletproof

I regconize that is a problem with her.

But the overall point remains..do you think this is a campaign derailment that hands Trump his re-election? I just dont see it.

Here you have posters such as Hater thinking picking Harris is a death knell. It's all over the place with everyone thinking picking x is death.

I'd die laughing if he ends up picking Warren which has been my pick for VP all along, therefore pissing off the blacks, hispanic and Bernie's supporters all at once.

[spurraider21]

I regconize that is a problem with her.

But the overall point remains..do you think this is a campaign derailment that hands Trump his re-election? I just dont see it.

Here you have posters such as Hater thinking picking Harris is a death knell. It's all over the place with everyone thinking picking x is death.

I'd die laughing if he ends up picking Warren which has been my pick for VP all along, therefore pissing off the blacks, hispanic and Bernie's supporters all at once.
no, i dont think it hands it to him. it certainly doesnt help though

[Will Hunting]

You're falling into the conservative trap talking point.

Picking Susan Rice would be a shitty pick but it's not going to shift the election by any means.

Would you rather solidify your own base, the black voter etc or would you rather let republicans guide who you should pick? Biden's base is not a bunch of conservatives. They'll never going to vote for him in any significant percentage.

I'm tired of republicans driving the narrative with our own help.
The Republicans already drove the narrative when we selected Biden to “win the center” even though there’s absolutely no voter enthusiasm for him (the Monmouth poll released today says that 17% of voters have a “very favorable” opinion of Biden vs 33% with a very unfavorable, that 17% number is fucking awful).

The polls are already swinging against Biden in the last few weeks, and it’s because staying in the freezer while Trump walks around in a soiled adult diaper only gets you so far, you eventually need to get out and win voters yourself.

Theres nothing about Susan Rice that “solidifies the base”, she’s a law and order Democrat who Republicans have a bad opinion of and Democrats have no opinion of. I agree with the fact Republicans are going to hate whoever is picked, but that’s why you don’t pick someone as stale and unimpressive as Susan Rice. Biden’s pick is going to need to carry slack for him on the campaign trail and that’s definitely not someone who’s never campaigned in her life.

[TSA]

The Republicans already drove the narrative when we selected Biden to “win the center” even though there’s absolutely no voter enthusiasm for him (the Monmouth poll released today says that 17% of voters have a “very favorable” opinion of Biden vs 33% with a very unfavorable, that 17% number is fucking awful).

The polls are already swinging against Biden in the last few weeks, and it’s because staying in the freezer while Trump walks around in a soiled adult diaper only gets you so far, you eventually need to get out and win voters yourself.

Theres nothing about Susan Rice that “solidifies the base”, she’s a law and order Democrat who Republicans have a bad opinion of and Democrats have no opinion of. I agree with the fact Republicans are going to hate whoever is picked, but that’s why you don’t pick someone as stale and unimpressive as Susan Rice. Biden’s pick is going to need to carry slack for him on the campaign trail and that’s definitely not someone who’s never campaigned in her life.

If it’s Susan Rice the Russia hoax gets put front and center again as she and Biden were both in the room with Obama when she had to write her CYA “by the book” email to herself on her final day. I hope she’s the pick :lol

[Will Hunting]

Crisis averted, Kamala is the pick.

[Spurminator]

If it’s Susan Rice the Russia hoax gets put front and center again as she and Biden were both in the room with Obama when she had to write her CYA “by the book” email to herself on her final day. I hope she’s the pick :lol

:lmao

You should get back out and talk to real people again someday. Hilarious that you think this is something the average swing voter would give any attention to.

[Reck]

The fact Biden just announced a bunch of ex Obama staffers are going to be part of the VPs staff makes me worried that the pick is Susan Rice. Congrats to Trump supporters.

Well this seals the deal. Safe to say Biden’s team is actually highly competent in their jobs. Unlike Hillary’s.

Im calling it, man. You can put a RIP sign on Trump’s campaign. Pretty much over in my very honest opinion.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao

You should get back out and talk to real people again someday. Hilarious that you think this is something the average swing voter would give any attention to.
:lol I read his post and didn’t even bother.

He’s also another h:lolnest br:lolker who outed himself as a Trumptard in that post when he says “I hope she’s the pick” since that comment clearly stems from a desire to see Trump win.

[Will Hunting]

Well this seals the deal. Safe to say Biden’s team is actually highly competent in their jobs. Unlike Hillary’s.

Im calling it, man. You can put a RIP sign on Trump’s campaign. Pretty much over in my very honest opinion.
Yep, I think this nomination came after a lot of teeth pulling because Biden wanted Rice.

[Reck]

Yep, I think this nomination came after a lot of teeth pulling because Biden wanted Rice.

Solid way to excite the base and ensure the African American community to come out in hopefully 2008 style.

EDIT:

And guess what? Trump already got out a tweet where he calls Joe and Kamala socialist. L fucking o L

[Spurminator]

TSA:

"This Kamala Harris pick is going to be disastrous for Democrats because she was photographed at a Law Enforcement conference with Peter Strzok and called the Steele Dossier credible! :lol :lol

Also, her cousin owns a jewelry store with a logo that looks similar to a slice of pizza. Wait until that starts trending on Twitter."

[Will Hunting]

TSA:

"This Kamala Harris pick is going to be disastrous for Democrats because she was photographed at a Law Enforcement conference with Peter Strzok and called the Steele Dossier credible! :lol :lol

Also, her cousin owns a jewelry store with a logo that looks similar to a slice of pizza. Wait until that starts trending on Twitter."
Just wait until TSA finds out about the campaign contributions Harris received from Heather Podesta, he’s gonna really lose his shit.*

*The contributions she received from Heather Podesta were actually sketchy as they were basically a quid pro quo for Harris letting Herbalife off the hook, but I’m sure instead of focusing on that the Qtards will focus on an obscure conspiracy theory.

[TSA]

:lmao

You should get back out and talk to real people again someday. Hilarious that you think this is something the average swing voter would give any attention to.

:lol thinking the average swing voter has forgotten about Russiagate after having it shoved down their throats by the media 24/7 for 3+ years

[TSA]

Well this seals the deal. Safe to say Biden’s team is actually highly competent in their jobs. Unlike Hillary’s.

Im calling it, man. You can put a RIP sign on Trump’s campaign. Pretty much over in my very honest opinion.

Reck calling it again :lol

[Spurminator]

:lol thinking the average swing voter has forgotten about Russiagate after having it shoved down their throats by the media 24/7 for 3+ years

You think the average American watches cable news all day?

That shit wasn't running on local news or even much of the network nightly news. And what did run is a distant memory.

No one cares. I know it's hard to believe given how much of your life you've devoted to this but that's the way it is. If you had more interaction with real people instead of technoFrog type Twitter accounts and wherever everyone from r/The_Donald ran off to, you'd know this.

I would probably put myself in the top 10 percentile of general Russiagate awareness and I had to Google how to spell Strzok.

[Will Hunting]

:lol thinking the average swing voter has forgotten about Russiagate after having it shoved down their throats by the media 24/7 for 3+ years
The average swing voter pays very little attention to anything. Even if they remember Russiagate, it’s at a high level. They definitely don’t remember some granular detail about a meeting Susan Rice attented.

Before you tell me about how it wasn’t some granular detail and it shows that Rice was part of a secret left wing cabal, I don’t care.

[TSA]

You think the average American watches cable news all day?

That shit wasn't running on local news or even much of the network nightly news. And what did run is a distant memory.

No one cares. I know it's hard to believe given how much of your life you've devoted to this but that's the way it is. If you had more interaction with real people instead of technoFrog type Twitter accounts and wherever everyone from r/The_Donald ran off to, you'd know this.

I would probably put myself in the top 10 percentile of general Russiagate awareness and I had to Google how to spell Strzok.

:lol bullshit it wasn't running on local news, I have local news on in the office at work every morning here in San Diego
:lol thinking Russigate coverage was only shown on cable news and that the average American wasn't flooded with articles day after day in print and online from NYT, WaPo, USA Today, etc.

[Reck]

Reck calling it again :lol

This time you can quote me later. :tu

[tholdren]

Reck calling it again :lol

RandomGuy and ChumpDumper style wrong

[Reck]

RandomGuy and ChumpDumper style wrong

A while ago I asked Frostking to tell me how Trump will reproduced his reelection path and didn't hear from him ever again so I will ask you and TSA.

How will Trump win again? Which states does he flip and keep?

[TSA]

This time you can quote me later. :tu

Are you going to say good bye to the political board again and go hide upstairs like last time?

[Reck]

Are you going to say good bye to the political board again and go hide upstairs like last time?

Actually good question. Yes, I will most then likely.

Only reason i'm super active in this section is because of how much of a third world country we have become. If we had a vanilla president I wouldn't be here.

Note how I was never seen here prior to the 2016 election.

[TSA]

A while ago I asked Frostking to tell me how Trump will reproduced his reelection path and didn't hear from him ever again so I will ask you and TSA.

How will Trump win again? Which states does he flip and keep?
Same way he did last time, by getting more electoral votes. Doesn't matter which he flips or keeps.

[TSA]

Actually good question. Yes, I will most then likely.

Only reason i'm super active in this section is because of how much of a third world country we have become. If we had a vanilla president I wouldn't be here.

Note how I was never seen here prior to the 2016 election.

Damn you really were with her :lmao

[tholdren]

A while ago I asked Frostking to tell me how Trump will reproduced his reelection path and didn't hear from him ever again so I will ask you and TSA.

How will Trump win again? Which states does he flip and keep?

I could care less about it. I do care about ignorance and gossip presented as science. Get your priorities right. And stop the gossip

[Reck]

I could care less about it. I do care about ignorance and gossip presented as science. Get your priorities right. And stop the gossip

Did you know that 100 thousand teenager tested positive for COVID in just 2 weeks?

I got mine straight, do you?

[tholdren]

Did you know that 100 thousand teenager tested positive for COVID in just 2 weeks?

I got mine straight, do you?

How many are sick?

Which type of test?

What is the risk of death for that age group?


I will wait.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Barry is a great speaker, as is Michelle. He left office with a 59% approval rating, like it or not he’s popular. It would be idiotic to not feature both of them prominently.

Jill Biden is milquetoast but the wife always speaks. I don’t expect great things but don’t see her being an albatross the way Ketchupwife was in 2004.

Who should they have picked as speakers in your opinion? Remember this is the Democratic convention, they can’t pick Tucker Carlson and Bill Mitchell as keynote speakers even though you might like them.

The approval rating means nothing. If it wasn't made up, people were just letting go of resentment for a guy on the way out.
Michelle isn't even a relevant player, and she's keynote? :lol
You can blame Jill on custom but if the Dems didn't turn their back on progressives, Commie Cuck would actually have some gravitas.

[Will Hunting]

The approval rating means nothing. If it wasn't made up, people were just letting go of resentment for a guy on the way out. Michelle isn't even a relevant player, and she's keynote? :lol
You can blame Jill on custom but if the Dems didn't turn their back on progressives, Commie Cuck would actually have some gravitas.
Yeah there’s no way to have a serious conversation every time numbers you don’t like are labeled fake or made up

[Spurtacular]

Yeah there’s no way to have a serious conversation every time numbers you don’t like are labeled fake or made up

You believe in made-up numbers because the establishment doesn't take you seriously in the first place, tbh.
The establishment knows that that exit poll is nothing but a tool to paint their outgoing puppet in a rosy light.

[Will Hunting]

You believe in made-up numbers because the establishment doesn't take you seriously in the first place, tbh.
The establishment knows that that exit poll is nothing but a tool to paint their outgoing puppet in a rosy light.
:lmao moar conspiracies

[Reck]

The fact Trump is still seething about how Kavanaugh got manhandled by Kamala says everything.

[Will Hunting]

The fact Trump is still seething about how Kavanaugh got manhandled by Kamala says everything.
He called her the most liberal person in the senate :lol

[Spurtacular]

:lmao moar conspiracies

No, it's just how it is. You wouldn't question the poll in a million years.

[TSA]

Did you know that 100 thousand teenager tested positive for COVID in just 2 weeks?

I got mine straight, do you?

But you don’t have it straight. The report you are attempting to cite included “teenagers” up to 24 years old :lol

[TSA]

The fact Trump is still seething about how Kavanaugh got manhandled by Kamala says everything.

Obvious lead up to Trump ads quoting Kamala saying she believes Biden’s accusers. I’m particularly looking forward to the Trump ads with Harris calling Biden a racist. :bobo

[baseline bum]

:lol I read his post and didn’t even bother.

He’s also another h:lolnest br:lolker who outed himself as a Trumptard in that post when he says “I hope she’s the pick” since that comment clearly stems from a desire to see Trump win.

He didn't out himself as a Trumper with Comet Ping Pong, Seth Rich, Susan Rice indicted, etc?

[Will Hunting]

He didn't out himself as a Trumper with Comet Ping Pong, Seth Rich, Susan Rice indicted, etc?
Of course he did, but was never outright cheering for Trump, he was ostensibly just an “honest broker” who didn’t like Trump but was genuinely concerned about a potential leftist child sex ring.

ITT he’s not even trying to hide the fact he’s a Trumptard.

[baseline bum]

Of course he did, but was never outright cheering for Trump, he was ostensibly just an “honest broker” who didn’t like Trump but was genuinely concerned about a potential leftist child sex ring.

ITT he’s not even trying to hide the fact he’s a Trumptard.

LOL what? He was pimping Trump as being the man who was going to come clean up the Clinton child sex slavery ring.

[Reck]

Obvious lead up to Trump ads quoting Kamala saying she believes Biden’s accusers. I’m particularly looking forward to the Trump ads with Harris calling Biden a racist. :bobo

Oh no, her calling him a racist does wonders....for Trump's supporters.

It does nothing for anyone else. When your go TOs are Joe's a socialist and she's a phony, you got nothing.

[Will Hunting]

Oh no, her calling her a racist does wonder....for Trump's supporters.

It does nothing for anyone else. When your go TOs are Joe's a socialist and she's a phony, you got nothing.
:lol Trump supporters have become the new Hillary supporters in terms of thinking their political fap material does anything to impact swing voters.

[TSA]

:lol Trump supporters have become the new Hillary supporters in terms of thinking their political fap material does anything to impact swing voters.

:lol unintentionally insulting the biggest a Hillary supporter on the board
:lol Trump actually won with that political fap material

[ChumpDumper]

Three and a half years into his presidency and the only two high profile pedophiles Trump has arrested are his friends whom he wishes well.

[Will Hunting]

:lol unintentionally insulting the biggest a Hillary supporter on the board
:lol Trump actually won with that political fap material
:lol thinking I care about who I insult on a messageboard

Hillary was a shrill cun t who people hated well before the Trump fap material. There was polling that suggested she actually did worse in some places the more she visited them :lol

[Reck]

:lol unintentionally insulting the biggest a Hillary supporter on the board
:lol Trump actually won with that political fap material

Are we going by how often we talk about Hillary? I think you got me covered there, chief.

Outside of my 2016 vote, I have no other affinity to her. Continue your delusion by any means though.

[Spurminator]

:lol bullshit it wasn't running on local news, I have local news on in the office at work every morning here in San Diego
:lol thinking Russigate coverage was only shown on cable news and that the average American wasn't flooded with articles day after day in print and online from NYT, WaPo, USA Today, etc.

No one was inundated on local news about Susan Rice's role in the investigation. Certainly very few "independent" people came away thinking this was some big scandal that was unfairly targeting Donald Trump.

You're in a bubble. You expect the general public to react to news the way you and the rest of the MAGA cult react to it but they don't. I'd say sorry to disappoint but you're content to exist in your bubble with the other sad losers whose entire existence now revolves around doing free PR for Donald Trump.

[Spurminator]

The average American can tell you a few things about the Mueller investigation.

1. Trump was impeached
2. Nothing happened to him as a result
3. Republicans sided with him and Democrats sided against him
4. Donald Trump was unhinged pretty much the whole time

If you think the average American is able to discuss the nuances of filing a FISA report you're retarded. Democrats may not have gotten what they wanted from the Mueller investigation but they still won the PR war.

Thinking Trump was somehow vindicated in the eyes of a majority of Americans is as stupid as thinking OJ's not guilty verdict changed how people perceived his guilt or innocence.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPdsWONWZl0