Derrick White is really good and hopefully he's ok (video)

[8FOR!3]

https://youtu.be/w7qBuyMaFvs

One thing I failed to mention was that Belinelli got minutes over Keldon and notably Weatherspoon today and that hurt. But outside of that it was a huge win for us. We stopped competing in the 3rd quarter after Derrick got hurt, but the vets really stepped their game up (DDR and Gay.)

I really think White has some Manu in him, but he hasn't been that spark off the bench that Ginobili always was. Seems like White has to start to be at his best. What do ya'll think?

[RC_Drunkford]

A player who scores 38 points in a playoff game against the 2 seed should start. Point blank. Besides that him and Aldridge have really great chemistry, which is why I was advocating for him to be the starting PG before the season started. Aldridge/White are a very good tandem

[8FOR!3]

A player who scores 38 points in a playoff game against the 2 seed should start. Point blank. Besides that him and Aldridge have really great chemistry, which is why I was advocating for him to be the starting PG before the season started. Aldridge/White are a very good tandem

yeah I kind of failed to mention that I get why pop tried to bring him off the bench as a Ginobili-like spark but it didn’t work, he needs to be starting.

[FkLA]

Has nothing to do with starting and everything to do with usage. Wombat and Rudy were the main usage guys off the bench. Belli had a green light to throw up anything he wanted. If you treat White like a measly role player, he will play like one.

Give him minutes and empower him by putting the ball in his hands often and he will shine.

[8FOR!3]

Has nothing to do with starting and everything to do with usage. Wombat and Rudy were the main usage guys off the bench. Belli had a green light to throw up anything he wanted. If you treat White like a measly role player, he will play like one.

Give him minutes and empower him by putting the ball in his hands often and he will shine.

this, but also want to mention that he’s finally being played with Murray and Walker and they’re playing defense

[itzsoweezee]

This team is absolutely painful to watch without Derrick. If he's out, I don't even want the spurs to make the playoffs (they won't without him anyway). The thought of Bellynelly and Detrash leading this team anywhere is hilarious

[8FOR!3]

This team is absolutely painful to watch without Derrick. If he's out, I don't even want the spurs to make the playoffs (they won't without him anyway). The thought of Bellynelly and Detrash leading this team anywhere is hilarious

really don’t understand why weatherspoon didn’t get more look than Belinelli with his defense

[Chinook]

I think people are overstating the way the team struggled when White went out. The Spurs gave up their first-quarter lead with White the game. They kept missing shots for long stretches. White missed a couple but Walker just go so freaking unlucky on so many of his attempts. Dude should've had 15 at least. I hope Derrick doesn't miss time, and his talent being gone may well hamstring the team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them play way, way better than they did to in the third today if they have time to adjust to the absence.

[8FOR!3]

I think people are overstating the way the team struggled when White went out. The Spurs gave up their first-quarter lead with White the game. They kept missing shots for long stretches. White missed a couple but Walker just go so freaking unlucky on so many of his attempts. Dude should've had 15 at least. I hope Derrick doesn't miss time, and his talent being gone may well hamstring the team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them play way, way better than they did to in the third today if they have time to adjust to the absence.

maybe. We just didn’t look super composed imo. DeRozan was getting frustrated, understandably so (he got elbowed by Brandon Ingram and they called it a foul on him). But he pulled it together in the 4th. Rudy Gay stood out to me in the third as the most composed player

[Chinook]

maybe. We just didn’t look super composed imo. DeRozan was getting frustrated, understandably so (he got elbowed by Brandon Ingram and they called it a foul on him). But he pulled it together in the 4th. Rudy Gay stood out to me in the third as the most composed player

I think they lacked composure in large part because White's injury. But they also had to deal with the pressure of a must-win game combined with the way the calls were going or seeming to go at the time. I don't think it's simply a matter of missing White.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I think people are overstating the way the team struggled when White went out. The Spurs gave up their first-quarter lead with White the game. They kept missing shots for long stretches. White missed a couple but Walker just go so freaking unlucky on so many of his attempts. Dude should've had 15 at least. I hope Derrick doesn't miss time, and his talent being gone may well hamstring the team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them play way, way better than they did to in the third today if they have time to adjust to the absence.

That wasn't bad luck Walker was experiencing. He shies away from contact so intently that he can't finish the shots. Needs to go harder/faster/higher and directly at the rim, rather than trying to through every shot attempt in off the backboard. He doesn't play as strong as his body looks.

[alpha_HaZE]

I think people are overstating the way the team struggled when White went out. The Spurs gave up their first-quarter lead with White the game. They kept missing shots for long stretches. White missed a couple but Walker just go so freaking unlucky on so many of his attempts. Dude should've had 15 at least. I hope Derrick doesn't miss time, and his talent being gone may well hamstring the team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them play way, way better than they did to in the third today if they have time to adjust to the absence.

Oh man, stop making so much sense, it genuinely confuses people here :)

[Spurtacular]

Video wrong. Walker is Spurs' best player, not White. Sucks that he had to end up playing for a jackass like Gregg.

[Dhbsr555]

Video wrong. Walker is Spurs' best player, not White. Sucks that he had to end up playing for a jackass like Gregg.
I would say walker has the highest ceiling but white is more productive at the moment

[Spurtacular]

I would say walker has the highest ceiling but white is more productive at the moment

Sure. But the people getting excited about Derrick White are the same people that were getting excited about George Hill.

Walker should be an all star by next season. If he's not it's because Gregg is limiting him.

[tbdog]

George Hill had a productive career and was traded for a stud. I'll hope Derrick White gets 6 more years avg over 20 mins a game.

[DAF86]

Sure. But the people getting excited about Derrick White are the same people that were getting excited about George Hill.

Walker should be an all star by next season. If he's not it's because Gregg is limiting him.

What do you have against White? He isn't "sexy" enough for you?

[Spurtacular]

What do you have against White? He isn't "sexy" enough for you?

Nothing against him. He could even work his way up to a poor man's Ginobili.

[Chinook]

That wasn't bad luck Walker was experiencing. He shies away from contact so intently that he can't finish the shots. Needs to go harder/faster/higher and directly at the rim, rather than trying to through every shot attempt in off the backboard. He doesn't play as strong as his body looks.

I don't agree. Walker's best quality is that he can score from angles most players can't. He could stand to take contact better, but he shouldn't be trying to be Westbrook. Using the backboard is fine and smart (since goal-tending rules still exist and all that), but he has to get better at making those shots if that's how he's going to play. Regardless, he had a number of shots rim out. That's bad luck.

[exstatic]

That wasn't bad luck Walker was experiencing. He shies away from contact so intently that he can't finish the shots. Needs to go harder/faster/higher and directly at the rim, rather than trying to through every shot attempt in off the backboard. He doesn't play as strong as his body looks.

He needs to watch hours of film of Keldon Johnson on how to throw your body into someone and score, or draw the foul. DJ should in in the film room, too. He’s just as bad finishing at the rim.

[Dex]

A player who scores 38 points in a playoff game against the 2 seed should start. Point blank. Besides that him and Aldridge have really great chemistry, which is why I was advocating for him to be the starting PG before the season started. Aldridge/White are a very good tandem

Agreed. I understand why Murray got the nod to start the season...coming back from the injury, that was his established role and his spot to lose.

But White has shown himself to be the superior player, in my opinion. Better shooter, better playmaker, and a more solid defender (even if he doesn't rack up as many steals).

If Murray and White can't coexist in the starting lineup, then I think Pop needs to swap their roles and start playing Murray off the bench.

[lefty]

I would be more than ok with a White-LW starting backcourt

[emanueldavidginobili]

Still no update on Derrick?

[weeks]

Still no update on Derrick?
Feels like a bad sign tbh :/

[exstatic]

You probably won’t hear anything until the pre-game show tomorrow. He may not be ready to go now, but might be in 24 hours.

[Chinook]

Still no update on Derrick?

Why would there be an update? They said he had a bruised knee. As far as I know, talk about him needing further tests was just speculation. If he just has a bruise, then the thing that would determine whether he can go tomorrow would be how it feels and how that impedes him. They won't know that yet.

[tmtcsc]

yeah I kind of failed to mention that I get why pop tried to bring him off the bench as a Ginobili-like spark but it didn’t work, he needs to be starting.

White should start because he's one of, if not the best, the most complete players on the team.

[tmtcsc]

You probably won’t hear anything until the pre-game show tomorrow. He may not be ready to go now, but might be in 24 hours.

Whether White plays or not will give you a peak into Pop's mindset in terms of making the playoffs. If its just a bruise, he should play.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

After LWIV 'told his story' we sure as FUCK haven't seen POOP excoriate, berate, and publicly flog the man on the Sidelines like we saw before.....

he is only 21 and has the Feels er something....it clearly affected him.....but he has to get over that shit or be a victim again.....

That's the thing, he is only 21 and he clearly has some issues, as was evidenced by his security blanket hairstyle. But he shed the hair which is a good psychological sign of his accepting of his issues and looking to move past them hopefully.

Its been said before, but I wish Lonnie would go talk to TP about how Pop treated him when he was about Lonnie's age which could help give LW4 some outside perspective to help him not take this shit from Pop so personal.

[Genovaswitness]

reminder that kawhi played hurt in the 2017 playoffs

[SAGirl]

Has nothing to do with starting and everything to do with usage. Wombat and Rudy were the main usage guys off the bench. Belli had a green light to throw up anything he wanted. If you treat White like a measly role player, he will play like one.

Give him minutes and empower him by putting the ball in his hands often and he will shine.
Truth. It was a travesty this year. Pop had signed Murray to that extension and already committed to him. Then Forbes is inexplicable tbh.

[SAGirl]

That wasn't bad luck Walker was experiencing. He shies away from contact so intently that he can't finish the shots. Needs to go harder/faster/higher and directly at the rim, rather than trying to through every shot attempt in off the backboard. He doesn't play as strong as his body looks.
I have considered whether Walker's history of knee injuries has made him averse to contact. If that is the case, his career will not reach the top of his potential. Still a very young guy that only just mid season started to get regular playing time. But physicality is lacking offensively for sure.

[Mugen]

I have considered whether Walker's history of knee injuries has made him averse to contact. If that is the case, his career will not reach the top of his potential. Still a very young guy that only just mid season started to get regular playing time. But physicality is lacking offensively for sure.

The way he's finishing at the rim right now (or lack of finishing) is honestly more dangerous long term for his knees than if he were to learn to finish through contact and land/fall correctly like Parker did tbh.

[SAGirl]

The way he's finishing at the rim right now (or lack of finishing) is honestly more dangerous long term for his knees than if he were to learn to finish through contact and land/fall correctly like Parker did tbh.
Then that is definitely coaching Mugen. Basically as needed as teaching guys how to land safely, is how to use contact to finish. With Derozan on the team, if he was helping out these guys and that is the reason he was here, well I'd value his mentorship more. I don't know what is going on in that regard. Still hoping Walker improves tho.